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Title: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 06 January 2015, 12:21:57
ORDERS CLOSED!
RedScarf III is RS96 3rd generation.
SHIPPING COMPLETE.
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Features 31 pcs of RGB led on the bottom of the PCB which could be controlled by the keys or with a remote wireless controller with support 16 colors and adjustable brightness.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODYzMjg0OTM2.html
PCB supports choices for many layout variations including ISO.
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3mm normal led for in switch backlight, with 3 modes: always on, breathing light, light when type with adjustable speed of  the dynamic lighting.

RS96 3rd diy set will include 1 pcb, 1 frosted white acrylic tray case, 1 remote for rgb control, 1 upper metal bezel in choice of silver,red,black,grey. Choice of bezel height with short 5mm height for $105, or tall with 8mm height for $115.
4 color choice of plate available: black, red, silver, grey. Optional item, is $25 extra
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4 color choice of feet available: black, red, silver, grey. Optional item, is $5 extra for pair. (Please note, without feet the case will have 0° angle)
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Orders close on 11 January. There will be a 1-2 months lead time for delivery.
Orders open to USA only. Invoices will be sent out daily and are DUE UPON RECEIPT.
There will be an additional $10 fee per kit to cover the groups shipping from China to USA. All orders will be send by PRIORITY, single kit medium flatrate $13, or 2 kit in large flatrate $16.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: byker on Tue, 06 January 2015, 12:24:52
Thanks for organizing this Ivan. If any Americans are ordering one and wouldn't mind proxying to Canada for me, I would appreciate it!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Sygaldry on Tue, 06 January 2015, 12:29:14
Thanks for doing this!

Is the 5mm bezel the one with countersink screws?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 06 January 2015, 12:30:08
Thanks for organizing this Ivan. If any Americans are ordering one and wouldn't mind proxying to Canada for me, I would appreciate it!

Still not sure if I'm planning on ordering one or not, but either way, I'll gladly proxy for you.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 06 January 2015, 12:32:12
Yes I only offer type you can't see screw from above.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: byker on Tue, 06 January 2015, 12:33:19
Thanks for organizing this Ivan. If any Americans are ordering one and wouldn't mind proxying to Canada for me, I would appreciate it!

Still not sure if I'm planning on ordering one or not, but either way, I'll gladly proxy for you.

Thanks for offering! :) I will wait to see if someone else is ordering one, as shipping is cheaper for two! If not I will take you up on your offer :)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 06 January 2015, 13:04:16
Would any be interested in assembly service? I could source switch (stock only, will not do mods at all!) and put together and test for some limited amount of people... not sure what is the fair price though.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Jixr on Tue, 06 January 2015, 13:10:22
will the pcb be pre soldered and ready to go?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: byker on Tue, 06 January 2015, 13:11:25
Would any be interested in assembly service? I could source switch (stock only, will not do mods at all!) and put together and test for some limited amount of people... not sure what is the fair price though.

I could be interested, as it might be cheaper than me paying for switches + additional shipping elsewhere.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 06 January 2015, 13:15:58
Would any be interested in assembly service? I could source switch (stock only, will not do mods at all!) and put together and test for some limited amount of people... not sure what is the fair price though.

I might go for that otherwise I'll just put in in my pile and forget I have it. :facepalm:
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Sygaldry on Tue, 06 January 2015, 13:21:00
will the pcb be pre soldered and ready to go?
I think diodes and resistors and controller come pre-soldered, ready to have some switches and LEDs soldered in.
Someone else will have to confirm this though.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 06 January 2015, 13:28:30
Yes the SMD parts come done already. Just need to add switch and led if backlight is desired.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IPT on Tue, 06 January 2015, 14:04:49
Would any be interested in assembly service? I could source switch (stock only, will not do mods at all!) and put together and test for some limited amount of people... not sure what is the fair price though.
i'd be interested in one that's assembled since i have 0 soldering ability/equipment.

or i'd have to go bug someone to assemble it for me...
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 06 January 2015, 14:36:59
Ordered. Thanks for organizing this, Ivan.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: blighty on Tue, 06 January 2015, 15:01:22
A keyboard with a remote?  Sounds fun.  Any clue on the interface to program it?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: tuantruong on Tue, 06 January 2015, 15:02:47
Ordered, thanks Ivan.  :thumb:
Here are some pics for the reference.
http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/photo/8665671
IMO, it would be better if we could have more LEDs than only one on the 3rd row of bottom PCB LEDs. And the backlit logo is kinda useless since we couldn't see it when put the keycaps on.  :(
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Tue, 06 January 2015, 15:20:46
I would also be willing to proxy or assemble with mods, Let me know if you are interested.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Karura on Tue, 06 January 2015, 15:44:22
Can this do numpad on the left?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 06 January 2015, 15:59:06
A keyboard with a remote?  Sounds fun.  Any clue on the interface to program it?

I will doublecheck, I think program utility will be made available. I'll post definite answer later once I have it.

Can this do numpad on the left?

I don't think it would be good, it would require a lot of modifications, but perhaps.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: MGH on Tue, 06 January 2015, 16:12:04
Is it possible to pay the invoice with a credit card? My friend only has $10 in his PayPal account but plenty ofcash.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 06 January 2015, 16:13:26
Is it possible to pay the invoice with a credit card? My friend only has $10 in his PayPal account but plenty ofcash.

If you have a paypal account, you just need to add the card to your wallet on paypal and select it when you go to pay the invoice.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 06 January 2015, 16:21:53
This is just the chinese version of the light saver right?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 06 January 2015, 16:22:52
yes, actually the buyer dosen't even need a paypal account at all to pay the invoices. Can use credit cards or e-checks, no problem. Paypal just process the payments.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 06 January 2015, 16:24:20
This is just the chinese version of the light saver right?

Essentially, but with more lighting options on board and more customization options for the case.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 06 January 2015, 16:29:25
Any way to get extra feet in different colors?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 06 January 2015, 16:30:29
Any way to get extra feet in different colors?

Submit another order, I'm guessing. :)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 06 January 2015, 16:38:52
Any way to get extra feet in different colors?

Submit another order, I'm guessing. :)

That's a good idea but a new order might be interpreted as overriding the old.  In any case I was just curious.  I actually think a couple sets of grey will be just fine for me :)).  Will place an order tonight.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: agbockus on Tue, 06 January 2015, 18:10:33
So for the bottom row, would it be possible to do 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 6.25, 1.5, 1.5, 1, 1, 1 (standard except for on the right side of the space bar, then the arrow keys and a smaller Shift key?)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 06 January 2015, 18:12:10
FINALLY

i was gonna do the red scarf II with ghostofharry but i think he got killed by his cap group buy

ill be posting my order soon,
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:18:55
Probably it's OK to order some extra feet, just send me a note when you get your invoice before pay and I can add.

If there is some combination that is not show explicitly... it probably can still work if it physically fits.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: munch on Wed, 07 January 2015, 01:12:43
1st pic is not with plate right? or is plate not covering entire PCB?
very cool. too bad it's USA only, makes it a little more difficult for me... :p
will give it some more thought, few days left still. cheers for organizing it.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 07 January 2015, 02:14:07
Would any be interested in assembly service? I could source switch (stock only, will not do mods at all!) and put together and test for some limited amount of people... not sure what is the fair price though.

I might go for that otherwise I'll just put in in my pile and forget I have it. :facepalm:
Is your pile like dragon's gold pile ? if so at which time are you asleep for us to loot ?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: byker on Wed, 07 January 2015, 02:46:04
What do you guys think, plate or plateless? I am leaning towards plate for added support, but less customisation is available then..
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: madhias on Wed, 07 January 2015, 03:32:26
USA onlys helps me to save some money, but the offer is interesting and i quite like the design and its features!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 07 January 2015, 13:33:27
Just as a heads up, I had to increase the group fee to ensure shipping AND paypal fees for when I pay to them are covered 100%. In any case it's still quite a lot cheaper than taobao agent.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 07 January 2015, 16:28:50
Paid ;D
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 07 January 2015, 16:38:07
Forgot to check my Paypal email. Paid also.

You're right about it being cheaper than buying through a Taobao agent. The full invoice from you was the same as my cart on bhiner.com with their fees, etc. And that's WITHOUT the EMS shipping from China I would have to pay them.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 07 January 2015, 17:13:47
Can someone proxy this to me?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 07 January 2015, 18:00:31
Is there any members that are in US military stationed in EU? That would be the best to proxy to Europeans since I can send to them like domestic, and they can then just put it in the local domestic in whatever country... winning.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 08 January 2015, 16:54:55
Wait so only 115 for the acrylic case and the works minus electronics/switches/stabs/caps?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: 3Love on Thu, 08 January 2015, 18:12:53
From China! Wonderful! :thumb:
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 08 January 2015, 18:17:37
Is there any members that are in US military stationed in EU? That would be the best to proxy to Europeans since I can send to them like domestic, and they can then just put it in the local domestic in whatever country... winning.

You could try and get in touch with tipo33. He's stationed in Italy AFAIK. I don't have his contact info, though.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 18:23:43
Very interested aluminum feets. You get it from China? If you can, pls let me know where you get. Because China is very near Vietnam & this GB for USA only :)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Sygaldry on Thu, 08 January 2015, 18:24:45
Very interested aluminum feets. You get it from China? If you can, pls let me know where you get. Because China is very near Vietnam & this GB for USA only :)
Its from china
Specifically from taobao
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 18:33:46
Very interested aluminum feets. You get it from China? If you can, pls let me know where you get. Because China is very near Vietnam & this GB for USA only :)
Its from china
Specifically from taobao
But my skill to find on taobao is bad @@. Hope everyone can help me :)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Sygaldry on Thu, 08 January 2015, 18:35:19
Very interested aluminum feets. You get it from China? If you can, pls let me know where you get. Because China is very near Vietnam & this GB for USA only :)
Its from china
Specifically from taobao
But my skill to find on taobao is bad @@. Hope everyone can help me :)
Got you covered:
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.XeEHEN&scm=1007.10152.2215.i43280594282&id=43228379649&pvid=bdb1e35c-3479-478e-a012-a389d45ce192
Here you go.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 18:39:42
Very interested aluminum feets. You get it from China? If you can, pls let me know where you get. Because China is very near Vietnam & this GB for USA only :)
Its from china
Specifically from taobao
But my skill to find on taobao is bad @@. Hope everyone can help me :)
Got you covered:
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.XeEHEN&scm=1007.10152.2215.i43280594282&id=43228379649&pvid=bdb1e35c-3479-478e-a012-a389d45ce192
Here you go.
Oh ok. Thank you very much :thumb:
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 09 January 2015, 15:03:36
so you can build this without a plate and it only costs 105$? smd parts presoldered?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 09 January 2015, 15:06:24
so you can build this without a plate and it only costs 105$? smd parts presoldered?

You can, but I think it looks more appealing with at least some type of top cover.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 09 January 2015, 16:47:44
Plate is just plate for switch, not at all needed if you don't want it. Plate serves no required purpose. Top cover 'bezel' comes in the base kit with 2 choice of how tall it is so you already got your top cover. 5mm would be like standard, and 8mm cover up almost half of key sides. So yes, you get a full kit with all the SMD part done for $105 plus shipping. Just add switch, and keycap so then plus another $30-??? depending on what options you take and how good you are at scavenge used.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 09 January 2015, 16:53:50
I think I need one of these.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 09 January 2015, 17:23:30
Only if it was like this and at RedScarf's price..

(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/562/045/001/0533ab6e280fa00f71b68e1bb2d252bd.JPG)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 09 January 2015, 17:35:24
Only if it was like this and at RedScarf's price..

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/562/045/001/0533ab6e280fa00f71b68e1bb2d252bd.JPG)


I'm in for one of these!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Elocutive on Fri, 09 January 2015, 18:11:24
Only if it was like this and at RedScarf's price..

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/562/045/001/0533ab6e280fa00f71b68e1bb2d252bd.JPG)

I would buy that. Dream layout.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: digi on Fri, 09 January 2015, 18:13:17
Only if it was like this and at RedScarf's price..

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/562/045/001/0533ab6e280fa00f71b68e1bb2d252bd.JPG)


I'm digging that 22kbd kit too.. =)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 09 January 2015, 18:27:01
I think I need one of these.
Need? Doubt it lol. But what a hell of a deal this is.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Sygaldry on Fri, 09 January 2015, 18:39:10
Only if it was like this and at RedScarf's price..

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/562/045/001/0533ab6e280fa00f71b68e1bb2d252bd.JPG)


Only if it was like this and at RedScarf's price..

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/562/045/001/0533ab6e280fa00f71b68e1bb2d252bd.JPG)

I would buy that. Dream layout.
The RSII can do that exact layout and it's available for an even lower price than the RSIII :eek:

I'm almost certain the RSIII can do something similar too (but it has the extra function row)

The PCB on both the RSII and RSIII are designed to be able to be cut and soldered to the other side for the left hand numpad
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: MGH on Sat, 10 January 2015, 02:33:22
Only if it was like this and at RedScarf's price..

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/562/045/001/0533ab6e280fa00f71b68e1bb2d252bd.JPG)


Only if it was like this and at RedScarf's price..

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/562/045/001/0533ab6e280fa00f71b68e1bb2d252bd.JPG)

I would buy that. Dream layout.
The RSII can do that exact layout and it's available for an even lower price than the RSIII :eek:

I'm almost certain the RSIII can do something similar too (but it has the extra function row)

The PCB on both the RSII and RSIII are designed to be able to be cut and soldered to the other side for the left hand numpad

Does it work with the same case and plate? My friend decided that he didn't need a second keyboard (his loss) but if I can get the numpad on the left I'll get one for myself as a semi-end game MX keyboard ;D
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Soulpyre on Sat, 10 January 2015, 07:51:29
Silly question as I am not too familair with the Redscarf series. The board is USB wired correct? And the only wireless feature is the remote to control lighting effects? Thanks
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 10 January 2015, 08:53:28
Can you link where you are buying them from? I saw the link earlier but can't find it now.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 10 January 2015, 09:11:49
Can you link where you are buying them from? I saw the link earlier but can't find it now.

this?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67279.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67279.0)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 10 January 2015, 09:12:40

Can you link where you are buying them from? I saw the link earlier but can't find it now.

this?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67279.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67279.0)
Thanks, and as you can obviously tell I didn't try very hard to find it :p
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 10 January 2015, 11:42:43
Only if it was like this and at RedScarf's price..

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/562/045/001/0533ab6e280fa00f71b68e1bb2d252bd.JPG)


Only if it was like this and at RedScarf's price..

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/562/045/001/0533ab6e280fa00f71b68e1bb2d252bd.JPG)

I would buy that. Dream layout.
The RSII can do that exact layout and it's available for an even lower price than the RSIII :eek:

I'm almost certain the RSIII can do something similar too (but it has the extra function row)

The PCB on both the RSII and RSIII are designed to be able to be cut and soldered to the other side for the left hand numpad

Does it work with the same case and plate? My friend decided that he didn't need a second keyboard (his loss) but if I can get the numpad on the left I'll get one for myself as a semi-end game MX keyboard ;D


My guess is you'd have to modify the case or get the acryllic portion of the case remade.

But there is also the possibility that the numpad has pads to take a USB connector for you to swap the connector over.

I'm not sure though. :-X
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 10 January 2015, 12:27:56
Only if it was like this and at RedScarf's price..

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/562/045/001/0533ab6e280fa00f71b68e1bb2d252bd.JPG)


Only if it was like this and at RedScarf's price..

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/562/045/001/0533ab6e280fa00f71b68e1bb2d252bd.JPG)

I would buy that. Dream layout.
The RSII can do that exact layout and it's available for an even lower price than the RSIII :eek:

I'm almost certain the RSIII can do something similar too (but it has the extra function row)

The PCB on both the RSII and RSIII are designed to be able to be cut and soldered to the other side for the left hand numpad

Does it work with the same case and plate? My friend decided that he didn't need a second keyboard (his loss) but if I can get the numpad on the left I'll get one for myself as a semi-end game MX keyboard ;D


My guess is you'd have to modify the case or get the acryllic portion of the case remade.

But there is also the possibility that the numpad has pads to take a USB connector for you to swap the connector over.

I'm not sure though. :-X
You might be able to just flip it if the port is in the center.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: street_jackal on Sat, 10 January 2015, 13:03:40
Just to clarify, are all the layouts shown in the mockup (with the various bottom rows) compatible with the plate? It looks like it would accommodate quite a few layouts but I can't quite tell from just the picture. Also, is there a picture showing the upper bezel colors, specifically the difference between silver and grey? Thanks for putting this together btw!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 13:20:00
Damn son. Amazing value for what you're getting. But I think I have to pass in favor of the aluminum 1800 that's coming up. :(
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: digi on Sat, 10 January 2015, 13:43:01
are there any pics to compare the 5mm & 8mm bezel by chance?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 10 January 2015, 13:47:58
are there any pics to compare the 5mm & 8mm bezel by chance?
In great finds in the original thread there are taobao links that have photos.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 14:27:52
looks like im out, this just isnt in the cards this week  :'(
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: exitfire401 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 14:29:29
looks like im out, this just isnt in the cards this week  :'(

Same here. Makes me sad. Stupid school books =( lol
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 10 January 2015, 14:32:01
I want one, but can't afford it, and you can't buy them in singles from taobao :(
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 14:35:39
I want one, but can't afford it, and you can't buy them in singles from taobao :(

maybe we can get enough people to do a second round thru Ivan, or perhaps someone else more versed in taobao.

i was awaiting the Red Scarf II, then get so hyped for the III.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 10 January 2015, 14:37:00

I want one, but can't afford it, and you can't buy them in singles from taobao :(

maybe we can get enough people to do a second round thru Ivan, or perhaps someone else more versed in taobao.

i was awaiting the Red Scarf II, then get so hyped for the III.

You need a minimum of two
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 10 January 2015, 14:38:08

I want one, but can't afford it, and you can't buy them in singles from taobao :(

maybe we can get enough people to do a second round thru Ivan, or perhaps someone else more versed in taobao.

i was awaiting the Red Scarf II, then get so hyped for the III.
I just figured that out by trying 1, then 2, but I don't know what the difference in the three options are.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 14:39:33

I want one, but can't afford it, and you can't buy them in singles from taobao :(

maybe we can get enough people to do a second round thru Ivan, or perhaps someone else more versed in taobao.

i was awaiting the Red Scarf II, then get so hyped for the III.

You need a minimum of two

PM me or find me on #geekhack and maybe we can figure something out, i dont wanna hijack Ivan's thread.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 10 January 2015, 14:41:41
I would have ordered from here but I got inpatient and just went to tabao o.o
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: digi on Sat, 10 January 2015, 15:46:16
Too good to pass up, joined! Thanks Ivan :cool:
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 10 January 2015, 20:04:38
LAST CALL! I will be submitting our group order tomorrow.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 10 January 2015, 20:09:48
I want one, and if I withdraw it from my bank, I will have 420$, but I also don't want to withdraw from my bank:(
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: DelKey on Sat, 10 January 2015, 20:51:12
Just paid the invoice. So psyched! Thanks for the opportunity and your continuing efforts to bring us cool stuff!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: byker on Sat, 10 January 2015, 21:44:54
Ordered. Thanks Ivan  :)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Sun, 11 January 2015, 00:29:22
Ivan I added my order, hope I got in time, I've been traveling and forgot to add my order
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 11 January 2015, 01:05:11
Added my order!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: limitz on Sun, 11 January 2015, 01:52:38
Ordering, and would like to add assembly service as well.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: quaxar on Sun, 11 January 2015, 04:27:36
Paid!, Gonna use the extra plates for my 2 extra lightsaver v2 pcbs, this is great, thanks!

Now I have to promise myself, no more purchases for the next 3 months  :P
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: 悬壶济世 on Sun, 11 January 2015, 05:06:38
Paid!, Gonna use the extra plates for my 2 extra lightsaver v2 pcbs, this is great, thanks!

Now I have to promise myself, no more purchases for the next 3 months  :P
:)Two months later I have a new keyboard released
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 11 January 2015, 07:47:23
I still haven't gotten my invoice :(
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: WinterIsle on Sun, 11 January 2015, 08:23:37
:)Two months later I have a new keyboard released
壶总讲英文了!  :thumb:
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: digi on Sun, 11 January 2015, 10:01:33
1) Are all bottom row layout options supported with the plate?
2) Where is everyone getting their switches & cherry stabs from? Does this plate support plate-mounted stabs or pcb-mounted?

Thanks
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 11 January 2015, 13:54:22
Plate seems to be designed to be 'universal' to this board, supporting any layout the PCB does. I'm 99% sure you'll want PCB mount stab in either case, plate doesn't look like it would support plate stabs properly.

All orders that were submitted as of this morning have been invoiced and my totals sent off to the Chinese organizers. Please pay your invoices ASAP to ensure I have all the funds ready to pay.

As far as switch, stab and assembly... I will address that a bit later once the stuff is on it's way. I may or may not offer that. I think it's best for me to wait to make sure I can commit to building X boards up.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: byker on Sun, 11 January 2015, 20:51:01
Plate seems to be designed to be 'universal' to this board, supporting any layout the PCB does. I'm 99% sure you'll want PCB mount stab in either case, plate doesn't look like it would support plate stabs properly.

All orders that were submitted as of this morning have been invoiced and my totals sent off to the Chinese organizers. Please pay your invoices ASAP to ensure I have all the funds ready to pay.

As far as switch, stab and assembly... I will address that a bit later once the stuff is on it's way. I may or may not offer that. I think it's best for me to wait to make sure I can commit to building X boards up.

Thanks again Ivan, sounds good regarding the assembly and extra parts. :) No harm in waiting to get a clearer picture.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 11 January 2015, 23:30:51
Invoice Paid. Sorry for being late since I was out for the whole day today and I didn't notice that this GB was happening up until when I woke up this morning :P
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Mon, 12 January 2015, 07:59:31
Paid, thanks Ivan!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 12 January 2015, 13:13:48
Have to miss this one. :<
Crying everywhere.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: radio_killah on Mon, 12 January 2015, 13:22:12
On the fence on this one.. I'm not sure if I should bite on this or just wait until we do another Lightsaver GB this spring... Any reasons why this might be better besides being cheaper?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 12 January 2015, 13:22:15

Have to miss this one. :<
Crying everywhere.
I almost had to miss it as well if I wanted to get Miami and another set, but I really like this board, so I had to sell some stuff
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 12 January 2015, 13:28:24
On the fence on this one.. I'm not sure if I should bite on this or just wait until we do another Lightsaver GB this spring... Any reasons why this might be better besides being cheaper?

It's just different.
I want it just to have both. I like the RGB LED and acrylic case on this, just a little something different.
I'll be looking to buy a kit, assembled or unassembled, so if you change your mind you can flip it to me in 2-6 weeks, or whenever you receive it.
I'm just broke right now and waiting on my Raindrop R2 to sell.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: geniekid on Mon, 12 January 2015, 15:36:07
On the fence on this one.. I'm not sure if I should bite on this or just wait until we do another Lightsaver GB this spring... Any reasons why this might be better besides being cheaper?

I don't know anything about the next Lightsaver GB but comparing this to Lightsaver v2 two things come to mind - 1) RS3 supports split backspace (a la HHKB) where LSv2 does not.  2) RS3 has a flat case with feet for elevation while the LSv2's case has a built-in 11 degree incline which is perfect for some and overly steep for others.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 14 January 2015, 14:06:54
On the fence on this one.. I'm not sure if I should bite on this or just wait until we do another Lightsaver GB this spring... Any reasons why this might be better besides being cheaper?

I don't know anything about the next Lightsaver GB but comparing this to Lightsaver v2 two things come to mind - 1) RS3 supports split backspace (a la HHKB) where LSv2 does not.  2) RS3 has a flat case with feet for elevation while the LSv2's case has a built-in 11 degree incline which is perfect for some and overly steep for others.

Very good points.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 14 January 2015, 14:07:39
and now the waiting begins...
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: blighty on Wed, 14 January 2015, 14:16:08
How many people joined the buy/total orders?  Thanks for doing this!  I wouldn't of had the patience to go through a taobao agent for this...
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 14 January 2015, 14:19:59
Bummed I missed this, but don't have the money.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 14 January 2015, 14:23:17
20 people, one board each. Since there wasn't as many orders as I had guessed, odds are I should be fine to do 10 or so people's assembly.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 14 January 2015, 14:25:07
20 people, one board each. Since there wasn't as many orders as I had guessed, odds are I should be fine to do 10 or so people's assembly.

Now I'm really bummed haha
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Wed, 14 January 2015, 14:52:25
I ordered one before you started this group buy. but it wont ship till the 10th of feb =(
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 14 January 2015, 15:36:05

20 people, one board each. Since there wasn't as many orders as I had guessed, odds are I should be fine to do 10 or so people's assembly.
To my knowledge the boards already come with smd parts pre-soldered right?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: digi on Wed, 14 January 2015, 15:53:42
To my knowledge the boards already come with smd parts pre-soldered right?

correct
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 14 January 2015, 15:54:22

To my knowledge the boards already come with smd parts pre-soldered right?

correct
Cool, I am not confident enough to do smd parts so that is great that I only have to do leds and switches
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 14 January 2015, 15:56:17
I ordered one before you started this group buy. but it wont ship till the 10th of feb =(
I did the same and since Ivan was US only it's fine . But I go an extra 40 days delay for the lower top part u_u .
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Wed, 14 January 2015, 16:05:18
We will also need stabilizers for this. no?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 14 January 2015, 16:15:18
We will also need stabilizers for this. no?

Yes, if you don't already have stabilizers on hand. Cherry PCB mount.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 14 January 2015, 16:47:35
We will also need stabilizers for this. no?

Yes, if you don't already have stabilizers on hand. Cherry PCB mount.
With the plate aren't we supposed to use Plate mount stabs ?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Wed, 14 January 2015, 16:51:44
sooo... where do I buy those 0.0
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 14 January 2015, 16:55:46
We will also need stabilizers for this. no?

Yes, if you don't already have stabilizers on hand. Cherry PCB mount.
With the plate aren't we supposed to use Plate mount stabs ?


Nope, plate is designed with holes for clearance of PCB mounted stabilizers, as are most Korean designs.

Where to buy stabilizers? That's a good question. Look for Cherry part number G99-0224 for 2-unit stabs.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Wed, 14 January 2015, 20:00:46
Just to verify. Plate mount switches. Correct?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 14 January 2015, 20:04:11
Just to verify. Plate mount switches. Correct?

If you use the plate. But that is optional. Otherwise PCB mount are fine with or without a plate.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: digi on Wed, 14 January 2015, 20:11:11
Just to verify. Plate mount switches. Correct?

If you use the plate. But that is optional. Otherwise PCB mount are fine with or without a plate.

JD, so with pcb mount switches, do they still fit snug into the plate but minus the clips that snap into the plate? If they fit just as well, it would almost make more sense to get pcb mount switches for easy removal? thanks
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Wed, 14 January 2015, 20:12:33
I did buy the plate. So I'll buy plate mounted then. Do you know if the plate is notched at all?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: feizor on Wed, 14 January 2015, 20:13:14
Just to verify. Plate mount switches. Correct?

Whenever the PCBs have the little holes for the plastic pegs on the PCB mount switches, I would prefer to use PCB mount switches, more stability and stays in place better when assembling.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: digi on Wed, 14 January 2015, 20:24:35
Just to verify. Plate mount switches. Correct?

Whenever the PCBs have the little holes for the plastic pegs on the PCB mount switches, I would prefer to use PCB mount switches, more stability and stays in place better when assembling.

Looks like this pcb does have the holes:

(http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/30354/671/665/008/b1a341409dcc56332de181c063a718a9.jpg)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: feizor on Wed, 14 January 2015, 20:29:51
Just to verify. Plate mount switches. Correct?

Whenever the PCBs have the little holes for the plastic pegs on the PCB mount switches, I would prefer to use PCB mount switches, more stability and stays in place better when assembling.

Looks like this pcb does have the holes:

Show Image
(http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/30354/671/665/008/b1a341409dcc56332de181c063a718a9.jpg)


Picture link doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: digi on Wed, 14 January 2015, 20:30:49
Just to verify. Plate mount switches. Correct?

Whenever the PCBs have the little holes for the plastic pegs on the PCB mount switches, I would prefer to use PCB mount switches, more stability and stays in place better when assembling.

Looks like this pcb does have the holes:

Show Image
(http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/30354/671/665/008/b1a341409dcc56332de181c063a718a9.jpg)


Picture link doesn't work for me.

I got the pic from KBDMania so it might be hosted in Korea, are you Country CIDR blocked or something possibly?

EDIT - i uploaded it to imgur for ya just in case =)

(http://i.imgur.com/Vvo3NUa.jpg)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: feizor on Wed, 14 January 2015, 20:39:00
Thanks, yep you are right, the two little black holes on each side of the main hole (the ones without the electrical contact pads) are the holes I'm talking about where the pegs of the PCB mount switches fit in.

The little stablising pegs are the only difference between PCB and plate mount switches AFAIK.

Edit: misread your first post.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:06:49
Just to verify. Plate mount switches. Correct?

If you use the plate. But that is optional. Otherwise PCB mount are fine with or without a plate.

JD, so with pcb mount switches, do they still fit snug into the plate but minus the clips that snap into the plate? If they fit just as well, it would almost make more sense to get pcb mount switches for easy removal? thanks

PCB mount switches snap into the plate exactly the same as plate mount switches do. The only difference at all are the two little plastic pegs on the bottom housing that fit into the holes in the PCB.

You can always use a plate, regardless of whether the PCB supports PCB mount switches or plate mount switches. If the PCB supports plate mount switches only (as in the JD40, or most production PCBs, you would need to clip off the two plastic pegs from the switch to allow a PCB mount switch to be installed. But since the Red Scarf III PCB supports PCB mount switches, you can use either. If you use PCB mount switches, you can use a plate, but it's not required.

Clear as mud? Thought so. :)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: digi on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:14:18
Just to verify. Plate mount switches. Correct?

If you use the plate. But that is optional. Otherwise PCB mount are fine with or without a plate.

JD, so with pcb mount switches, do they still fit snug into the plate but minus the clips that snap into the plate? If they fit just as well, it would almost make more sense to get pcb mount switches for easy removal? thanks

PCB mount switches snap into the plate exactly the same as plate mount switches do. The only difference at all are the two little plastic pegs on the bottom housing that fit into the holes in the PCB.

You can always use a plate, regardless of whether the PCB supports PCB mount switches or plate mount switches. If the PCB supports plate mount switches only (as in the JD40, or most production PCBs, you would need to clip off the two plastic pegs from the switch to allow a PCB mount switch to be installed. But since the Red Scarf III PCB supports PCB mount switches, you can use either. If you use PCB mount switches, you can use a plate, but it's not required.

Clear as mud? Thought so. :)

good to go, thanks mang.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: byker on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:31:34
Thanks for clarifying it all JD!  :)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 15 January 2015, 03:03:23
Damn so I just bought Plate mounted for nothing .
Gon has PCB mounted.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 15 January 2015, 11:58:18
Clarified further:

All PCBs will work with EITHER PCB or Plate mount switches.
If you PCB only "supports" Plate mount you'll have to cut the legs on your PCB mount switches to get them to fit.
You can always use a plate on any kb so long as the case allows room.

Edit: If someone decides they don't have time to build this, or want to sell theirs kit or built, Hit Me UP (HMU)
Please.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Thu, 15 January 2015, 12:31:15
I am going plate mounted. I don't plan on switching out springs any time soon. 62g Ergos will have to do. But what I would like to know if the plate is notched. I would like to do a SIP socket mod on it.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 12:34:52
I am going plate mounted. I don't plan on switching out springs any time soon. 62g Ergos will have to do. But what I would like to know if the plate is notched. I would like to do a SIP socket mod on it.

There is a photo of the plate in the OP and it looks like it is not notched.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 January 2015, 12:38:59
I know this keyboard isn't Korean, it's Chinese, but it seems to follow Korean keyboard design philosophy.

- Plate optional. All switches and stabilizers can be PCB mounted.
- Plate uses large holes for stabilizers, to allow for clearance of the PCB mounted stabilizers, but not for plate mounting stabilizers.
- Plate uses standard square Cherry MX switch holes, with no openings for switch cover removal.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 15 January 2015, 13:27:21
Yes, PCB mount stabs only for sure. The plate clearly doesn't support plate mount types. As for switch, unless you already have plate mount on hand to use up, I would strongly recommend to choose PCB mount. Even with plate, PCB mount type will add extra help to ensure they are installed in proper alignment which may be important in some areas where the plate won't hold all 4 side of switch.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Thu, 15 January 2015, 13:30:42
Yes, PCB mount stabs only for sure. The plate clearly doesn't support plate mount types. As for switch, unless you already have plate mount on hand to use up, I would strongly recommend to choose PCB mount. Even with plate, PCB mount type will add extra help to ensure they are installed in proper alignment which may be important in some areas where the plate won't hold all 4 side of switch.

I am going to have Thechemist do a lot of the work on the keyboard since he did such an amazing job on my poker. this is what he said.

"Well plate and pcb are the same, the only thing they differ is two legs on the pcb mount switch. If your keyboard supports both, the pcb mount will be more sturdy since the two legs insert into the pcb and also get supported by the plate. The only drawback is pcb / plate design / precision, if your plate is offset just a bit the plate mount can compensate for the difference but if you use the pcb mount switches they insert very tightly into the pcb and may cause clearance problems / alignment issues, just an fyi."
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 January 2015, 13:33:48
Yes, PCB mount stabs only for sure. The plate clearly doesn't support plate mount types. As for switch, unless you already have plate mount on hand to use up, I would strongly recommend to choose PCB mount. Even with plate, PCB mount type will add extra help to ensure they are installed in proper alignment which may be important in some areas where the plate won't hold all 4 side of switch.

I am going to have Thechemist do a lot of the work on the keyboard since he did such an amazing job on my poker. this is what he said.

"Well plate and pcb are the same, the only thing they differ is two legs on the pcb mount switch. If your keyboard supports both, the pcb mount will be more sturdy since the two legs insert into the pcb and also get supported by the plate. The only drawback is pcb / plate design / precision, if your plate is offset just a bit the plate mount can compensate for the difference but if you use the pcb mount switches they insert very tightly into the pcb and may cause clearance problems / alignment issues, just an fyi."

Yep, he knows. That's exactly right.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: digi on Thu, 15 January 2015, 17:07:58
Yes, PCB mount stabs only for sure. The plate clearly doesn't support plate mount types. As for switch, unless you already have plate mount on hand to use up, I would strongly recommend to choose PCB mount. Even with plate, PCB mount type will add extra help to ensure they are installed in proper alignment which may be important in some areas where the plate won't hold all 4 side of switch.

I am going to have Thechemist do a lot of the work on the keyboard since he did such an amazing job on my poker. this is what he said.

"Well plate and pcb are the same, the only thing they differ is two legs on the pcb mount switch. If your keyboard supports both, the pcb mount will be more sturdy since the two legs insert into the pcb and also get supported by the plate. The only drawback is pcb / plate design / precision, if your plate is offset just a bit the plate mount can compensate for the difference but if you use the pcb mount switches they insert very tightly into the pcb and may cause clearance problems / alignment issues, just an fyi."

Good to know. I guess we'll have to wait and see how close the plate lines up to the pcb before buying switches, huh.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Thu, 15 January 2015, 17:30:40
Yes, PCB mount stabs only for sure. The plate clearly doesn't support plate mount types. As for switch, unless you already have plate mount on hand to use up, I would strongly recommend to choose PCB mount. Even with plate, PCB mount type will add extra help to ensure they are installed in proper alignment which may be important in some areas where the plate won't hold all 4 side of switch.

I am going to have Thechemist do a lot of the work on the keyboard since he did such an amazing job on my poker. this is what he said.

"Well plate and pcb are the same, the only thing they differ is two legs on the pcb mount switch. If your keyboard supports both, the pcb mount will be more sturdy since the two legs insert into the pcb and also get supported by the plate. The only drawback is pcb / plate design / precision, if your plate is offset just a bit the plate mount can compensate for the difference but if you use the pcb mount switches they insert very tightly into the pcb and may cause clearance problems / alignment issues, just an fyi."

Good to know. I guess we'll have to wait and see how close the plate lines up to the pcb before buying switches, huh.

Ivan is right that PCB are more sturdy. So you can wait to see if in lines up if you want, but I want all my stuff made asap. So I just ordered the plate mounted ones.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 January 2015, 17:40:22
Ivan is right that PCB are more sturdy. So you can wait to see if in lines up if you want, but I want all my stuff made asap. So I just ordered the plate mounted ones.

Sort of. :)

I've never noticed any lack of stability or sturdiness with switches mounted to a plate and soldered into a PCB.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: digi on Thu, 15 January 2015, 17:59:30
Ivan is right that PCB are more sturdy. So you can wait to see if in lines up if you want, but I want all my stuff made asap. So I just ordered the plate mounted ones.

Sort of. :)

I've never noticed any lack of stability or sturdiness with switches mounted to a plate and soldered into a PCB.

That's a good point. I would prefer to use PCB switches if I know that the plate lines up perfectly but TheChemist really brought up a great point. If it's off slightly, pcb mounted switches might cause more pain than it's worth.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Fri, 16 January 2015, 12:53:42
How close is this keyboard in size comparison to a normal TKL? asking because Noko is making a wrist rest soon and I need to tell her the size.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: digi on Fri, 16 January 2015, 13:09:27
How close is this keyboard in size comparison to a normal TKL? asking because Noko is making a wrist rest soon and I need to tell her the size.

If its near the same size of a Lightsaver (which I believe it is), a TKL wrist rest should work fine. I used a Filco TKL wrist rest with my Lightsaver V2 and it was perfect.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 16 January 2015, 13:45:01
How close is this keyboard in size comparison to a normal TKL? asking because Noko is making a wrist rest soon and I need to tell her the size.

Back when I had a Code my Lightsaver was only about .5in longer.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 23 January 2015, 07:56:45
If anyone needs to sell their order, I'm your guy!!! xD
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 25 January 2015, 13:41:34
If anyone needs to sell their order, I'm your guy!!! xD

NO I AM!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 27 January 2015, 15:30:33
I have one extra... if someone wants to pick this up it would be great. Please post here so everyone knows it's been claimed. First come, first serve with immediate payment.
1 8mm kit silver, no plate, grey feet.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 28 January 2015, 11:22:33
Got it!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Sygaldry on Wed, 28 January 2015, 18:19:58
Got it!
Lol that was pretty quick.

Gone before I even saw Ivan had an extra  :p
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Shanghaied on Thu, 29 January 2015, 09:44:43
Anyone know if the manual for this has been posted anywhere yet? Bought this through a Taobao proxy and have been twiddling my thumbs waiting for it to arrive.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 29 January 2015, 16:35:10
Anyone know if the manual for this has been posted anywhere yet? Bought this through a Taobao proxy and have been twiddling my thumbs waiting for it to arrive.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=31260

Hopefully he'll come back with a manual soon :)

I mailed him about it .
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Shanghaied on Thu, 29 January 2015, 17:10:12
Anyone know if the manual for this has been posted anywhere yet? Bought this through a Taobao proxy and have been twiddling my thumbs waiting for it to arrive.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=31260

Hopefully he'll come back with a manual soon :)

I mailed him about it .

Yeah I saw that, but just wanted to start planning before the board arrives. Though I guess I'll have plenty of time since it will ship on the 10th of February, awaiting the arrival of the bezel. Fingers crossed that this won't get caught up and delayed by the the huge logistical mess that is the Chinese New Year.

Also, I didn't see this mentioned anywhere else on the English-speaking internet, but the seller says on enjoyclick (Chinese mech board) that the PCB is compatible with what I assumed to be lightsaver II case (duck96 he called it), except for the location of one screw. Should be interesting.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: minh278 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 09:18:43
Kinda early but, any chance of a round 2 soon? or anyone got a spare?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 02 February 2015, 09:19:12
Kinda early but, any chance of a round 2 soon? or anyone got a spare?

They haven't even shipped from China, yet...
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 02 February 2015, 09:27:50
Kinda early but, any chance of a round 2 soon? or anyone got a spare?
If you go on your own, I think you can still order those, I did it since I'm not in USA and I'm not expecting it before march.

More infos in the original thread : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67279.0
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: byker on Wed, 04 February 2015, 22:00:07
Anyone interested in my plate? I think I am going to go 7x spacebar, which iirc the plate is just for 6.25. I ordered a silver plate.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 04 February 2015, 22:10:30
from the picture of the plate and the pictures, the plate supports both, it uses PCB mount stabs and the holes for them are on that plate pictured
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 04 February 2015, 22:11:24
Anyone interested in my plate? I think I am going to go 7x spacebar, which iirc the plate is just for 6.25. I ordered a silver plate.

That plate looks pretty "universal" to me. Should support 7-unit and both standard and Cherry 6.25-unit spacebars.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: byker on Wed, 04 February 2015, 22:52:01
Oops. Thanks for teaching me, oh wise ones! :) I guess my memory is failing me :P
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: peterzjt on Wed, 04 February 2015, 23:34:51
it's perferct
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 06 February 2015, 11:22:39
Yes that is right, the single plate choice was design to fit with any of the layouts the board supports.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 07 February 2015, 09:24:05
i am still kicking myself over missing this
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 07 February 2015, 16:01:38
Mine ships in 3 days >=)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: minh278 on Sat, 07 February 2015, 17:13:08
i am still kicking myself over missing this

Me too :/ least we can share the pain.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Shanghaied on Sat, 07 February 2015, 19:41:34
i am still kicking myself over missing this

You can still order through a Taobao agent. Mine came in at around $170, although I think I've yet to pay additional shipping to Europe.

TaobaoFocus emailed just now and said that the seller has shipped today. Now if only my switches and springs from Gon would arrive soon.

Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 08 February 2015, 08:28:13
These should be shipped out to me after Chinese New Year.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 08 February 2015, 08:42:38
These should be shipped out to me after Chinese New Year.

So, in like 20 days?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Sun, 08 February 2015, 09:43:57
Got notification that Mine has been shipped to the Taobao agent. Excited!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 14 February 2015, 12:04:24
Thinking of going with this layout. bought that PBT RGP set with the short green shift modifier on ebay.

[attach=1]
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 14 February 2015, 12:36:35
So does anyone know how programming this keyboard works yet?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 14 February 2015, 13:38:22
Got notification that Mine has been shipped to the Taobao agent. Excited!
Did you go through the GB?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 14 February 2015, 13:40:43
Got notification that Mine has been shipped to the Taobao agent. Excited!
Did you go through the GB?
I think he bought his on his own before the GB started
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 14 February 2015, 13:41:18
Got notification that Mine has been shipped to the Taobao agent. Excited!
Did you go through the GB?

I didnt. I ordered directly through TaoBaoFocus and had it shipped to TheChemist so it can be assembled by the best =)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 14 February 2015, 13:43:11
Got notification that Mine has been shipped to the Taobao agent. Excited!
Did you go through the GB?

I didnt. I ordered directly through TaoBaoFocus and had it shipped to TheChemist so it can be assembled by the best =)

So what was the total cost + shipping and assembly?  :cool:
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 14 February 2015, 14:11:20
Got notification that Mine has been shipped to the Taobao agent. Excited!
Did you go through the GB?

I didnt. I ordered directly through TaoBaoFocus and had it shipped to TheChemist so it can be assembled by the best =)
Ah, I am also going to use Desko on mine once it comes, since it will be the only other one I have besides Miami when it comes, but I actually bought Desko to use on my one board, while I wait for Miami, but my board broke 1 day before Desko came, so :I. Although, I plan on making my this my layout, although I might end up using a DSA or SA-Uniform set: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/d284632eae185ff2206dfc2f5c8c74e3
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 14 February 2015, 14:32:18
Got notification that Mine has been shipped to the Taobao agent. Excited!
Did you go through the GB?

I didnt. I ordered directly through TaoBaoFocus and had it shipped to TheChemist so it can be assembled by the best =)

So what was the total cost + shipping and assembly?  :cool:

$205 shipped from Taobao for all the parts. I got the plate and the thickest case as well.
Then what ever Thechemist quotes.

It will have Lubed 62g Ergo Clears with Red stickers, Purplelish blue LED's from gon and foam insert to eliminate noise. When I get the Hyperfuse set from the latest group buy, it will be complete =)

Got notification that Mine has been shipped to the Taobao agent. Excited!
Did you go through the GB?

I didnt. I ordered directly through TaoBaoFocus and had it shipped to TheChemist so it can be assembled by the best =)
Ah, I am also going to use Desko on mine once it comes, since it will be the only other one I have besides Miami when it comes, but I actually bought Desko to use on my one board, while I wait for Miami, but my board broke 1 day before Desko came, so :I. Although, I plan on making my this my layout, although I might end up using a DSA or SA-Uniform set: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/d284632eae185ff2206dfc2f5c8c74e3

I like that layout a lot! But I would want to go winkeyless. wonder if I can make something like that work...
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 14 February 2015, 14:39:58
Got notification that Mine has been shipped to the Taobao agent. Excited!
Did you go through the GB?

I didnt. I ordered directly through TaoBaoFocus and had it shipped to TheChemist so it can be assembled by the best =)

So what was the total cost + shipping and assembly?  :cool:

$205 shipped from Taobao for all the parts. I got the plate and the thickest case as well.
Then what ever Thechemist quotes.

It will have Lubed 62g Ergo Clears with Red stickers, Purplelish blue LED's from gon and foam insert to eliminate noise. When I get the Hyperfuse set from the latest group buy, it will be complete =)

Got notification that Mine has been shipped to the Taobao agent. Excited!
Did you go through the GB?

I didnt. I ordered directly through TaoBaoFocus and had it shipped to TheChemist so it can be assembled by the best =)
Ah, I am also going to use Desko on mine once it comes, since it will be the only other one I have besides Miami when it comes, but I actually bought Desko to use on my one board, while I wait for Miami, but my board broke 1 day before Desko came, so :I. Although, I plan on making my this my layout, although I might end up using a DSA or SA-Uniform set: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/d284632eae185ff2206dfc2f5c8c74e3

I like that layout a lot! But I would want to go winkeyless. wonder if I can make something like that work...
Not that bad going Winkeyless, much more nice to have the FN key right there. Ctrl+Esc gives you the Windows menu, so its not that bad, just one more keypress and a little more stretch. And I don't use the win key except for locking my PC, so I have to hit the arrow keys 4 times on top of ctrl+esc, so not too bad.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: digi on Sat, 21 February 2015, 20:24:16
Selling/Transferring my order, pm if interested:

8mm bezel (Gray)
Plate (Red)
Feet (Gray)

$174.72 USD (CONUS ONLY)

SOLD
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 07:36:14
Did someone have any kind of manual for this?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: margo baggins on Tue, 24 February 2015, 08:37:27
Anyone order extra/don't want their order anymore?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 08:49:07
Anyone order extra/don't want their order anymore?
I think you might still be able to order them through a Taobao Proxy.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 24 February 2015, 09:26:08
Anyone order extra/don't want their order anymore?

margo, you can take over my order. I'll handle shipping to you once it arrives here, and we can work out that cost later. :)

Bezel color: grey
Plate color: silver
Feet color: grey

$174.72 + shipping to you
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: margo baggins on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:08:43
Anyone order extra/don't want their order anymore?

margo, you can take over my order. I'll handle shipping to you once it arrives here, and we can work out that cost later. :)

Bezel color: grey
Plate color: silver
Feet color: grey

$174.72 + shipping to you

Thanks JD :) you're my hero.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 24 February 2015, 13:58:09
I wish I would have gotten a red plate with mine, if someone wants to trade their red plate for my grey plate, I would be more than happy to do so!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Shanghaied on Wed, 25 February 2015, 16:37:11
Did someone have any kind of manual for this?

Manual would be super helpful at this point. Starting to put mine together, and the couple of switch LEDs that I put in are not lighting up - I suspect that they are not switched on, but I have no way of checking since I don't know how to switch them on (or even if they are on at all).
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Synjin on Wed, 25 February 2015, 17:07:35
Did someone have any kind of manual for this?

Manual would be super helpful at this point. Starting to put mine together, and the couple of switch LEDs that I put in are not lighting up - I suspect that they are not switched on, but I have no way of checking since I don't know how to switch them on (or even if they are on at all).
It is possible that you have them on the wrong polarities.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Shanghaied on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:23:45
Did someone have any kind of manual for this?

Manual would be super helpful at this point. Starting to put mine together, and the couple of switch LEDs that I put in are not lighting up - I suspect that they are not switched on, but I have no way of checking since I don't know how to switch them on (or even if they are on at all).
It is possible that you have them on the wrong polarities.

Don't think so. As usual I assumed the square pads are + and connected them with the longer LED leg. But just to be sure I've also tried a few the other way around, and it was still nothing, so I assumed that they weren't switched on. But there's no way to know at this point without the manual.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Shanghaied on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:39:15
Okay, now that I got to them, the num lock and cap lock LEDs work, so yeah, the rest weren't switched on.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 26 February 2015, 03:44:19
Please come discuss here for manual:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69282.0
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Shanghaied on Thu, 26 February 2015, 13:00:01
Okay so I've built mine together in the last few evenings, here are some general impressions.

The quality of the PCB and the case is generally pretty good, though the shot peened finish on the aluminium frame is a a bit too rough for my liking. I'm relatively new to this, so I've not got a lot to compare it too, but the machine finish is not as good as, for example, the Tex Filco TKL case that I have.

Also two of the screw holes were damaged, probably during the manufacturing process. There is enough thread left so that the PCB screws in just fine and they are not visible once assembled, so I guess it's fine.

First impression is pretty good, although it's nowhere as stiff as the Filco TKL in aluminium case that has been my daily driver for the last few months (although I suspect few things will be, seeing as it's a steel plate sandwiched between blocks of aluminium. It could also be down to the stiffer springs in the ergo clears switches though. I suspect a steel plate (standard plate is aluminium) will make a bit stiffer.

Some people have said that you can move the numpad to the left of the board, but that's not true - there are no pads for soldering the boards together once you divide them, and there are ca 20 traces running between the two parts so doing it yourself will be a real pain. Also the USB port cannot be moved. What I've figured out though, is that the RSIII is designed to be completely compatible with the Lightsaver case, even down to having four downward facing LEDs the on the sides, for the downward facing LED holes on the LS. There are two more downward facing LEDs on the edge between the main keyboard and the numpad, and that hints at the purpose of the breakaway numpad. Basically the PCB is designed to fit the Octagon/75 Mini case once the numpad is removed.

It took me about two whole evenings to put it together - mostly spent stickering and lubing and changing the stock springs, and adding the SIP socket mod. I'd say it's not bad for a first time keyboard project. Now only thing left to do is clean the back side a bit with isopropanol and wait for the key caps to arrive.

Here are some crappy phone pics because I can't bothered to get the real camera out.

Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 27 February 2015, 21:15:54
Thanks for sharing :)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: digi on Fri, 27 February 2015, 21:20:03
Okay so I've built mine together in the last few evenings, here are some general impressions.

The quality of the PCB and the case is generally pretty good, though the shot peened finish on the aluminium frame is a a bit too rough for my liking. I'm relatively new to this, so I've not got a lot to compare it too, but the machine finish is not as good as, for example, the Tex Filco TKL case that I have.

Also two of the screw holes were damaged, probably during the manufacturing process. There is enough thread left so that the PCB screws in just fine and they are not visible once assembled, so I guess it's fine.

First impression is pretty good, although it's nowhere as stiff as the Filco TKL in aluminium case that has been my daily driver for the last few months (although I suspect few things will be, seeing as it's a steel plate sandwiched between blocks of aluminium. It could also be down to the stiffer springs in the ergo clears switches though. I suspect a steel plate (standard plate is aluminium) will make a bit stiffer.

Some people have said that you can move the numpad to the left of the board, but that's not true - there are no pads for soldering the boards together once you divide them, and there are ca 20 traces running between the two parts so doing it yourself will be a real pain. Also the USB port cannot be moved. What I've figured out though, is that the RSIII is designed to be completely compatible with the Lightsaver case, even down to having four downward facing LEDs the on the sides, for the downward facing LED holes on the LS. There are two more downward facing LEDs on the edge between the main keyboard and the numpad, and that hints at the purpose of the breakaway numpad. Basically the PCB is designed to fit the Octagon/75 Mini case once the numpad is removed.

It took me about two whole evenings to put it together - mostly spent stickering and lubing and changing the stock springs, and adding the SIP socket mod. I'd say it's not bad for a first time keyboard project. Now only thing left to do is clean the back side a bit with isopropanol and wait for the key caps to arrive.

Here are some crappy phone pics because I can't bothered to get the real camera out.



great write-up and really good soldering job!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 27 February 2015, 21:20:29
nice review  :)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 01 March 2015, 11:22:05
More
Okay so I've built mine together in the last few evenings, here are some general impressions.

The quality of the PCB and the case is generally pretty good, though the shot peened finish on the aluminium frame is a a bit too rough for my liking. I'm relatively new to this, so I've not got a lot to compare it too, but the machine finish is not as good as, for example, the Tex Filco TKL case that I have.

Also two of the screw holes were damaged, probably during the manufacturing process. There is enough thread left so that the PCB screws in just fine and they are not visible once assembled, so I guess it's fine.

First impression is pretty good, although it's nowhere as stiff as the Filco TKL in aluminium case that has been my daily driver for the last few months (although I suspect few things will be, seeing as it's a steel plate sandwiched between blocks of aluminium. It could also be down to the stiffer springs in the ergo clears switches though. I suspect a steel plate (standard plate is aluminium) will make a bit stiffer.

Some people have said that you can move the numpad to the left of the board, but that's not true - there are no pads for soldering the boards together once you divide them, and there are ca 20 traces running between the two parts so doing it yourself will be a real pain. Also the USB port cannot be moved. What I've figured out though, is that the RSIII is designed to be completely compatible with the Lightsaver case, even down to having four downward facing LEDs the on the sides, for the downward facing LED holes on the LS. There are two more downward facing LEDs on the edge between the main keyboard and the numpad, and that hints at the purpose of the breakaway numpad. Basically the PCB is designed to fit the Octagon/75 Mini case once the numpad is removed.

It took me about two whole evenings to put it together - mostly spent stickering and lubing and changing the stock springs, and adding the SIP socket mod. I'd say it's not bad for a first time keyboard project. Now only thing left to do is clean the back side a bit with isopropanol and wait for the key caps to arrive.

Here are some crappy phone pics because I can't bothered to get the real camera out.

Thank you so much for the info.
I am excited to hear it was made to fit a lightsaver and will likely purchase another PCB if the next round of lightsavers looks to be a ways off.
As for moving the numpad, I'm not sure if the RS2 had pads for soldering either, just that it WAS possible wire the pad on the opposite side.
[whether or not this is true for every pcb, I am no sure, I am no specialist when it comes to these things]
If it's more difficult here, then damn! They left out a great feature from their 2nd revision.
Nice build and thanks again for the write up.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 01 March 2015, 11:42:52
Thank you so much for the info.
I am excited to hear it was made to fit a lightsaver and will likely purchase another PCB if the next round of lightsavers looks to be a ways off.
As for moving the numpad, I'm not sure if the RS2 had pads for soldering either, just that it WAS possible wire the pad on the opposite side.
[whether or not this is true for every pcb, I am no sure, I am no specialist when it comes to these things]
If it's more difficult here, then damn! They left out a great feature from their 2nd revision.
Nice build and thanks again for the write up.

How much is it just to buy the PCB? I'd like some as well to configure other layouts for my LS.

If you order some, let me hop on with you! :D
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Shanghaied on Sun, 01 March 2015, 15:05:45
Thanks people. Anyway, I don't remember how much the PCB only option was, but I think it was around $25-$30, but it was limited to only 20 or 30 pcs this time, and they were pretty much sold out when GH took notice of the board. Although I saw his earlier creations were available as PCB only by the time the RSIII came out so I guess the next batch may very well feature more PCBs. I'm also thinking about buying another PCB, so I can build another one with a custom stainless steel plate.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: minh278 on Sun, 01 March 2015, 22:18:53
If anyone wants to sell theirs due to the redscarf84 or the new lightsaber interest check, I would be overjoyed to take over your order.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: byker on Mon, 02 March 2015, 01:53:47
Hey Ivan, any update on the shipping? CNY is over now if I am not mistaken.  :)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Mon, 02 March 2015, 08:49:45
Hey Ivan, any update on the shipping? CNY is over now if I am not mistaken.  :)

If it is anything like mine. shipping still says leaving post form china.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 06 March 2015, 07:11:04
I am looking to sell my order:
Bezel color: Gray
Plate color: Gray
Feet color: Gray

PM me so we can work out changing shipping
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: minh278 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 11:45:44
I am looking to sell my order:
Bezel color: Gray
Plate color: Gray
Feet color: Gray

PM me so we can work out changing shipping
p'med
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 06 March 2015, 11:53:32
I am looking to sell my order:
Bezel color: Gray
Plate color: Gray
Feet color: Gray

PM me so we can work out changing shipping
p'med
I replied to the PM and the email
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 06 March 2015, 15:17:05
These should be on the way pretty soon. When I know for sure I'll let you all know.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Bromono on Mon, 16 March 2015, 05:11:41
So my red scarf shipped the 11th of February... More then a month later and my tracking still says what it said when it first left China :(
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Jixr on Mon, 16 March 2015, 11:47:52
I hate to be one of those guys, but if anyone is willing to part with their order I'll gladly buy and i'm okay with buying at a mark up for your time.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Jixr on Tue, 07 April 2015, 16:30:31
any updates? still waiting on production?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: geniekid on Mon, 13 April 2015, 10:40:13
any updates? still waiting on production?

+1
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 13 April 2015, 12:37:12
Yeah, I guess our order didn't get in on the first batch or some such.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 28 April 2015, 14:59:12
They're here!

I'm getting all the parts sorted into your individual orders.
For those that would like to have me assemble I have the time to do so for a limited number. If you would like MX blacks I have some on hand. If you would like some other type of switch you can either send them to me if you have them, or I can order some from MK.com or something.
I do only have a very limited number of stabilizers though. Luckily I can assemble without them due to the plate design, so you can always add them in later with zero trouble when you can get some.
As for LED, same thing goes as with switch, if you have some you would like to have used you can send them to me, or I can find some place to order... I have some on hand but I am not sure the quantity and colors just now. I will have to find them and make sure before I offer any options there.

If you want to have me source switch and/or LED please post HERE IN THIS THREAD specify what varieties you would want, this way people can see what is being ordered by others and can potentially get better prices on bulk option.

Basic assembly cost will be $20. Basic assembly means I solder in parts on desired layout, test it function properly and that is all. I am not willing to do any extra customization to switches and that sort of thing. All additional parts not included in the kit which need to be added will be charged at cost.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: digi on Tue, 28 April 2015, 15:15:20
*woops! wrong thread, thought this was the rs84, hehe, sorry.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 28 April 2015, 15:17:04
Sure, for those that don't need anything else if you want to reply that too so I know and can get it out immediately that is also great.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: blighty on Tue, 28 April 2015, 15:21:31
Nice!  Glad the boards made it to you.  I don't need any extra ****e, so please feel free to ship the kit at your earliest convenience.   Thanks!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 28 April 2015, 15:25:45
Yay!  Just the parts for me please!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Jixr on Tue, 28 April 2015, 15:33:33
whoooooooooo!

VERY EXCITE. ITS NICE...

Just the parts for me!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Spopepro on Tue, 28 April 2015, 15:33:51
Good news. I will not be asking for anything additional, ship at your convenience.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Jixr on Tue, 28 April 2015, 16:30:11
Ivan could you post a pic of the PCB? i'm curious about it and I'm trying to figure out if I need any more additional parts I need to order for my build.

Thanks!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Friskywhisker on Tue, 28 April 2015, 17:01:09
Great to hear they're on-hand, I won't need any assembly so feel free to ship out the kit on its own. Thanks Ivan!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 29 April 2015, 00:09:49
 :thumb:
For those of you that confirmed to ship, they will be picked up tomorrow.
All other orders are assembled and ready to go.

Sorry, I can't take any reasonable detail picture with my ****ty phone... but everything it needs is SMD and presolder. You only need to add the switch and LED if desired, nothing else should be required.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 29 April 2015, 00:40:16
Ooo!!! Just a day after I ask... this happens :))

I would just like my parts shipped to me!

Thank you!

Please let me know if anything.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 29 April 2015, 00:58:56
Ship it, no assembly :)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 29 April 2015, 01:01:44
[attachimg=1]

I screwed down all the PCB and bezels and feet together to make sure everything was all good, accounted for and prevent any of the small part from getting lost. I figure this should be better for shipping too so not so much stuff is loose banging around.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 April 2015, 06:33:10
Great news! You can go ahead and ship mine out, please. Thanks again, Ivan. :)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 29 April 2015, 07:32:14
ship it mah dood!!!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 29 April 2015, 15:02:05
Everyone that has responded has been shipped.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 29 April 2015, 15:10:10
Aw yeeeee~

Can't wait!

Thank you!!!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: DelKey on Wed, 29 April 2015, 15:34:56
Thanks Ivan! I do not need assembly or anything else for my order.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: minh278 on Wed, 29 April 2015, 15:44:41
I do not need assembly Ivan, please ship mine!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: tuantruong on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:14:39
Already got some gateron switches for this baby, please ship it out Ivan. Thanks! :thumb:
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: blighty on Wed, 29 April 2015, 18:45:49
Would you be able to post the tracking numbers for us, please?

edit:  Picked it up today.  Thanks!  Hope to build it up next week.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: quaxar on Thu, 30 April 2015, 00:03:17
I don't need assembly for mine either, this set looks like fun to set up
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: poog on Thu, 30 April 2015, 23:49:24
you can ship mine as well at your convenience
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Jixr on Fri, 01 May 2015, 17:26:09
Ivan, Got my scarf in,

Just another thank you for all your work you do for the community, can't wait to get my r4 caps from you to put on this bad  boy.

(http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w553/ClaytonGFinley/IMG_2918_zpsn7q88jtd.jpg) (http://s1329.photobucket.com/user/ClaytonGFinley/media/IMG_2918_zpsn7q88jtd.jpg.html)


Is there any list or documentation about programming or anything like that?

Also, i took over someone elses order, and I have the dark gray feet that I won't be using, if anyone wants feet but didn't buy them I'll resell them.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 02 May 2015, 10:29:34

Is there any list or documentation about programming or anything like that?


https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69282.0
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 02 May 2015, 10:43:10
All orders are shipped.
After I get all the black PBTs shipped, and get this server project I have going done I hope I find sometime to get mine built and programmed... then maybe I can answer questions about that.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Jixr on Sat, 02 May 2015, 12:17:24
Awesome, got mine all programmed up.

Also, if anyone has a plate they are not using, I'd love to buy it off you.

Thanks
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Jixr on Tue, 05 May 2015, 14:23:25
if anyone figured out how to include the default function layer ( so you can control the lights and stuff via keyboard ) to the .eep let me know.

I can't quite figure out how to get the fn layers to work though.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: blighty on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:37:09
Built it up on Monday, plate-mounted ANSI 125 + stepped caps lock with Gateron Blacks. 

[attach=1]


Went with the full size right shift to have a different layout than the LSv2 (using a G80-3000 layout vs using a g80-1800).

Thanks again Ivan!

note: one bummer I noticed when I unboxed the kit was some of the anodizing was already rubbed off a small section of the front.  Did anyone else have that issue?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Jixr on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:45:46
Yeah, the alum frame is pretty poor, its just cast alum. and the edges are not very sharp, lots of tiny little nicks.

But for the price we paid its about what I was expecting
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:49:01
Built it up on Monday, plate-mounted ANSI 125 + stepped caps lock with Gateron Blacks. 

(Attachment Link)


Went with the full size right shift to have a different layout than the LSv2 (using a G80-3000 layout vs using a g80-1800).

Thanks again Ivan!

note: one bummer I noticed when I unboxed the kit was some of the anodizing was already rubbed off a small section of the front.  Did anyone else have that issue?


Beautiful, mane! Can't wait to build mine too.

Here's mine: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1738516#msg1738516

(http://i.imgur.com/uYRpwSa.jpg)

Mine also had some imperfections on the aluminum top but I can't really complain at the price :P

Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: blighty on Wed, 06 May 2015, 14:03:17
Ha, I guess I got off lucky with a couple of imperfections in the anodizing then.  It wasn't a pitchfork event or anything, just curious on other's kit conditions.  Looking forward to seeing different builds.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Jixr on Wed, 06 May 2015, 14:36:40
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/clayfinley/IMG_4532_zpsifijrw4c.jpg) (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/clayfinley/media/IMG_4532_zpsifijrw4c.jpg.html)

Here is mine with a miami set on it. I'm currently working on getting a plate for it, and waiting on ivans r4 GB to be done for the caps. ( Cherry Irish ) Tossed some gateron blacks on it, and I may change up the layout a little whenever my keycaps arrive. ( and add some Led's and other goodies )

The pcb is very thin and flexes a lot in the corners, so I got some clear rubber furniture bumpers and stuck them to my case to help beefen it up a little bit. I'd recommend the same if you have issues as well.

if anyone needs help programing lemme know, i think it got it mostly figured out.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 06 May 2015, 14:43:30
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/clayfinley/IMG_4532_zpsifijrw4c.jpg) (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/clayfinley/media/IMG_4532_zpsifijrw4c.jpg.html)

Here is mine with a miami set on it. I'm currently working on getting a plate for it, and waiting on ivans r4 GB to be done for the caps. ( Cherry Irish ) Tossed some gateron blacks on it, and I may change up the layout a little whenever my keycaps arrive.

The pcb is very thin and flexes a lot in the corners, so I got some clear rubber furniture bumpers and stuck them to my case to help beefen it up a little bit. I'd recommend the same if you have issues as well.

if anyone needs help programing lemme know, i think it got it mostly figured out.

Beautiful!!! Thank you for your photo too!!

Please don't drop it...
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Jixr on Wed, 06 May 2015, 14:57:07
i've already figured if the anodizing really starts to bug me i'm just going to sand it mirror smooth, and paint and polish it up.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:23:40
Yes almost all the 5mm had more apparent finish imperfections, especially the silver ones. I think the 8mm tops fared a little better overall.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: LXXXIX on Tue, 12 May 2015, 23:19:27
Anyone know if there will be a Round 2 or if there are any PCBs left on TaoBao?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 14 May 2015, 19:28:30
finally going to build mine this weekend with gateron blacks and likely white LEDs, dont feel like doing sip sockets or anything special, i have been out of town most of the last month for work, how is this programmed? tmk?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 14 May 2015, 20:16:33
AH CRAP

just realized the plate has a cut defect, they cut the bottom modifiers on the right side way too small, its like half the thickness it should be to fit a switch inside, mine actually stands out in the picture you shared with everyones board before you mailed it. can you get a replacement, is that even possible?

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8880/17036948613_6b909e3eef_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rXuPgk)

i may just end up building this without a plate, with blacks, feel real cherry stock like..... grrrrr
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: LXXXIX on Thu, 14 May 2015, 22:07:04
AH CRAP

just realized the plate has a cut defect, they cut the bottom modifiers on the right side way too small, its like half the thickness it should be to fit a switch inside, mine actually stands out in the picture you shared with everyones board before you mailed it. can you get a replacement, is that even possible?

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8880/17036948613_6b909e3eef_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rXuPgk)

i may just end up building this without a plate, with blacks, feel real cherry stock like..... grrrrr

Anyone else having this issue? I'm planning on finding one some way some how, but if this is normal I don't want one.  :blank:
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: fknraiden on Thu, 14 May 2015, 22:12:23
AH CRAP

just realized the plate has a cut defect, they cut the bottom modifiers on the right side way too small, its like half the thickness it should be to fit a switch inside, mine actually stands out in the picture you shared with everyones board before you mailed it. can you get a replacement, is that even possible?

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8880/17036948613_6b909e3eef_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rXuPgk)

i may just end up building this without a plate, with blacks, feel real cherry stock like..... grrrrr
WOW is all I can say. I would be very very upset.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 14 May 2015, 22:24:08
World famous Chinese quality
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 14 May 2015, 22:54:27
AH CRAP

just realized the plate has a cut defect, they cut the bottom modifiers on the right side way too small, its like half the thickness it should be to fit a switch inside, mine actually stands out in the picture you shared with everyones board before you mailed it. can you get a replacement, is that even possible?

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8880/17036948613_6b909e3eef_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rXuPgk)

i may just end up building this without a plate, with blacks, feel real cherry stock like..... grrrrr
Mine is fine... not sure what happend here... I guess you got "lucky"
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Jixr on Fri, 15 May 2015, 08:43:10
I built mine without a plate, and its fine without. but yeah, this thing is no lightsaver thats for sure, but for the price, i'm okay with it.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 15 May 2015, 11:36:28
Chinese quality indeed

eh, i think i can live without a plate, black switches feel fine without a plate, that classic G80 feel. this just forces my hand on what switches to use.

I have this feeling it would be difficult to get a new plate anytime soon so essentially i have a 25$ spring/lube station.

how do I program this thing?
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 May 2015, 11:42:51
Sorry I didn't notice that. If it were me... I would probably just go to work on it with a file to fix it.


ALSO:
I found a pair of feet under the sofa while I was cleaning up. I only assume it fell out of a box while I was packing it up. So... I have no idea who those would belong to so please let me know.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 15 May 2015, 11:50:52
Selling/Transferring my order, pm if interested:

8mm bezel (Gray)
Plate (Red)
Feet (Gray)

$174.72 USD (CONUS ONLY)

SOLD
Yo Ivan... I picked up this order and didn't get gray feet...

So if they're grey I would guess they belong to me  :p
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: LXXXIX on Fri, 15 May 2015, 11:57:47
Sorry I didn't notice that. If it were me... I would probably just go to work on it with a file to fix it.


ALSO:
I found a pair of feet under the sofa while I was cleaning up. I only assume it fell out of a box while I was packing it up. So... I have no idea who those would belong to so please let me know.

Ivan I PM'd you about this GB. Please reply back to me thank you. :thumb:
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 May 2015, 12:21:58
Selling/Transferring my order, pm if interested:

8mm bezel (Gray)
Plate (Red)
Feet (Gray)

$174.72 USD (CONUS ONLY)

SOLD
Yo Ivan... I picked up this order and didn't get gray feet...

So if they're grey I would guess they belong to me  :p

OK then, mystery solved. I will post them out tomorrow.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 15 May 2015, 13:40:07
Selling/Transferring my order, pm if interested:

8mm bezel (Gray)
Plate (Red)
Feet (Gray)

$174.72 USD (CONUS ONLY)

SOLD
Yo Ivan... I picked up this order and didn't get gray feet...

So if they're grey I would guess they belong to me  :p

OK then, mystery solved. I will post them out tomorrow.
DOH, I lied... just checked and they are on it...  :-[

Those belong to someone else!!!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Jixr on Fri, 15 May 2015, 14:06:25
they are not mine, i got my feet.
( process of elimination yo )
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 15 May 2015, 14:32:06
soldering while on conference calls with client's like a boss, multi-tasking ftw, quickest keyboard build ever. made sure all switches are level

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7779/17505615338_3444f46088_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sEURy7)

forget the plate, i aint got the time to file that **** down, hell no,

now its time to program this thing, pop some switches caps on it and use the thing
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 15 May 2015, 14:37:59
i found a tmk fork for this

https://github.com/kairyu/tmk_keyboard_custom/tree/master/keyboard/RedScarfIII

all i need is for someone to tell me how to get this to go into program mode bootloader, i dont see a button on it.

edit: it doesnt look like the button was soldered on LOL, looks like i have to bridge it with a wire.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: blighty on Fri, 15 May 2015, 14:46:16
soldering while on conference calls with client's like a boss, multi-tasking ftw, quickest keyboard build ever. made sure all switches are level

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7779/17505615338_3444f46088_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sEURy7)

forget the plate, i aint got the time to file that **** down, hell no,

now its time to program this thing, pop some switches on it and use the thing

Looking good!  It was a blessing in disguise with your wonky plate.  You would of had clearance issues with the bent spacebar wire.  At least I had issues when I tried to use a 6.25u wire from a Cherry board.  Luckily, I did a test fit before I put it together/soldering and noticed it hitting.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 15 May 2015, 14:55:59
Yeah this 6.25 wire was already made i had in my stab pile, i think it came from a poker, i could have made a new wire if there was clearance issues, i have some hobby wire i've used to make 7x wires, but I have very little spare time anymore and if i rush making a stab wire I could lose an eye, its a violent process to hand make them.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Spopepro on Fri, 15 May 2015, 15:08:28
Glod:
There has been some awesome work done on documentation and translation in the thread here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69282.0

Including a PDF on flashing.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 15 May 2015, 15:27:18
cool, I will give it a try

edit: this actually looks more complicated than just doing it the normal TMK process, maybe i am wrong....it just seems like it
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Jixr on Fri, 15 May 2015, 16:31:16
Its not that hard, i'm pretty new to programming keyboards but figured it out.

The only thing i've not been able to do is figure out how to control backlighting via FN keys. I know its possible, ( stock firmware does it ) i just cant get it to work for me


Also, you'll probably want to put something under your pcb, mine ( plateless ) has a lot of flex it in.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 15 May 2015, 17:59:08
GOT IT, PROGRAMMED!
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 May 2015, 19:33:46
HEhehe... Yeah I put on the feet on all the orders (except those who wanted none), but a few people ordered more than one set of feet, I guess for a different look? Either I missed getting a set in somewhere or I was sent too many?

Making choices to how I want to build it is so hard! I can't decide what switch type I want to put on (Cherry MX or Gateron?), or in which layout I want to build it. I kind of want to build it in modified ISO... but then I will be pretty much stuck with which cap sets I can use.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 15 May 2015, 20:24:31
:)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5442/17519598109_e7955231d5.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sG9w9n)\

edit: btw Jixr i took your advice and put something behind the pcb, placed stick-on rubber feet, the perfect height on the floor of the case all over, squishy to conform, no bend at all in pcb :)
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Jixr on Sat, 16 May 2015, 11:42:10
yeah i did the same thing, not quite as solid as i'd like, but it cuts the flex by a good bit. Though I do have a plate coming for this eventually, hopefully that will beefen it up.
Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 16 May 2015, 16:26:28
i put like 12 of them in there, without being squished they are slightly taller than the standoffs, this keyboard is the most solid PCB mount board i have ever used, I've had plate mount boards flex more than this one and you really have to press down hard for it to flex

And the gateron blacks feel fantastic with GMK. very smooth switches. this is one of my favorite boards out of 20 or so i own (lol), even with the cheaper quality from china (racist?). thanks ivan








Title: Re: RedScarf III (USA ONLY!)
Post by: Spopepro on Mon, 18 May 2015, 11:25:55
Finally got mine built.

PCB could be thicker... but otherwise has some nice, thoughtful touches.  Acrylic case is really nice--I like it a lot.  Bezel is bad, and I'll be thinking about making something to replace it. 

The software is awesome.  The keymap generator with the TMK and the LUFA print-loader is brilliant.  It compelled me to do some firmware customization of my own... so now I have a broken keyboard.  Oh well... time to see if I can fix this.