GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)

[Dubsgalore]

Is Last Pilot's design going to be a sticker option? i would get one maybe to go along with the main design

[duq]

Just to confirm: the GH60 (max keys) layout can be achieved with the universal plate, correct?

Is there any advantage to the GH60 plate?  I feel like if a plate can use every key position (the universal plate) it should be basically the same as the plate that uses maximum keys (the GH60 plate).

The specialized plates have cutouts specific to the layout where as the universal plate has spots that are widened to fit multiple configurations and the switch will not be as secure. These insecure positions are recommended to have pcb mount switches.

It is something to be aware of although the plate mount switches should electrically connect.

[jdcarpe]

Is Last Pilot's design going to be a sticker option? i would get one maybe to go along with the main design

Lastpilot's design will be THE official sticker design, and will be offered separately from this GB.

I should suggest to komar that he use that design on the final PCB revision, huh?

[Dubsgalore]

Is Last Pilot's design going to be a sticker option? i would get one maybe to go along with the main design

Lastpilot's design will be THE official sticker design, and will be offered separately from this GB.

I should suggest to komar that he use that design on the final PCB revision, huh?

Looks good to me. i guess i meant to say Color, and not Design, since that design was posted in another thread (i think right?)

regardless looks cool. final gonna be all pink?

[aggiejy]

A brushed aluminum looking sticker would be cool... though perhaps too detailed on the keyboard.

[aggiejy]

But if I'm not typing on mine by this Fall... 

[WhiteFireDragon]

aggiejy, that first one looks really nice. Clean, yet not boring. I'm not digging the rust or the ice though. That ice looks a bit fake lol.

[nubbinator]

So, any guesstimate on switch prices?

[Dubsgalore]

From the GH60 Metallic Sticker thread...i like both those colors..i also like Aggiejy's...and the pink one

One of everything for me!

[aggiejy]

aggiejy, that first one looks really nice. Clean, yet not boring. I'm not digging the rust or the ice though. That ice looks a bit fake lol.

Haha, the rust and ice was a gaudy attempt as a lame joke... ie, SEND ME MY PCB before hell freezes over! ;-)

[WhiteFireDragon]

What do you think the per unit price for Whites will be?  I'm still on the fence between spending too much and buying some Whites and tossing the springs from my Clears into some Reds I have (since there's no name for that yet that I've seen, I am naming them Ghost Reds).  If it's not too expensive, I'll probably get some.

So, any guesstimate on switch prices?

We're still working on it. You're welcome to order directly from 7bit on DT, but we're no longer integrating preorders with this GB. What I have NOT posted yet was that he increased in preorder prices (compared to what I previously mentioned in the OP), and they will be even higher once preorders are over. Also MOQ for each switch was increased to 4000. This is straight from 7bit.

We're working on another source right now, and if it works out, it should be either same or cheaper than the lowest price I have linked in the OP right now (60cents per switch). We still need to account for added fees and shipping though.

[rurushu]

Is Last Pilot's design going to be a sticker option? i would get one maybe to go along with the main design

Lastpilot's design will be THE official sticker design, and will be offered separately from this GB.

I should suggest to komar that he use that design on the final PCB revision, huh?

this would be awesome!!!! was going to suggest that! nice one jdcarpe!

A brushed aluminum looking sticker would be cool... though perhaps too detailed on the keyboard.

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this looks good! i think if it is a plate, it would be perfect! like the one jdcarpe make to put on his alu case!

[7bit]

We're still working on it. You're welcome to order directly from 7bit on DT, but we're no longer integrating preorders with this GB. What I have NOT posted yet was that he increased in preorder prices (compared to what I previously mentioned in the OP), and they will be even higher once preorders are over. Also MOQ for each switch was increased to 4000. This is straight from 7bit.

We're working on another source right now, and if it works out, it should be either same or cheaper than the lowest price I have linked in the OP right now (60cents per switch). We still need to account for added fees and shipping though.

Shipping from me to the distributors is free and I doubt there will be another source except you find old stock.

Preorder prices:
They where and are 0.54 EUR per switch. Within this group buy, I will not raise these prices, unless Cherry raises their price even more.

The 0.27 EUR per switch where 50% pre-payments which don't work out when I've got to order 4000 of a type instead of just 1000. So, I'm asking now for 100% payment.

I still wait for an answer if the MOQ can be a bit lower. Higher price and a higher MOQ is really a bit too much. With the amount of money that went in I can only order 3 different types of switches (12000 in total).

[HoffmanMyster]

Can I request a PM to confirm my order is what I'd like it to be?  I've made a few modifications to my order since I placed it, so I just want to make sure everything is what it should be.

[metalliqaz]

Just placed an order for PCB mount stabilizers

[jdcarpe]

Can I request a PM to confirm my order is what I'd like it to be?  I've made a few modifications to my order since I placed it, so I just want to make sure everything is what it should be.

Sent you a PM.

[samwisekoi]

If it becomes reality, it looks like alixinhzai has brought my Acrylic case to life, and quite nicely, too.



So unless that case (thread here) doesn't happen, I'm asking my supporters to switch to alixinhzai.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

[Sai]

If it becomes reality, it looks like alixinhzai has brought my Acrylic case to life, and quite nicely, too.

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So unless that case (thread here) doesn't happen, I'm asking my supporters to switch to alixinhzai.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

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yep. i am switching to him. just asking him for w/r/w case like LZ.

[samwisekoi]

yep. i am switching to him. just asking him for w/r/w case like LZ.

Probably faster shipping to you, too.  Please post a review once you get yours!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

[Sai]

yes, sir. I'll try to do the review. 

[Wraul]

Could someone please pm me my order.
I would like to check if I need to do any last minute changes.

Also I like to clarify that I'm fully aware that the stabilizers come in complete sets.
And yes I have order quite a lot of them. I might even add a couple more.
Better safe than sorry. You never know when you might need a stabilizer.

[esoomenona]

So has it been figured out about how this GB might proceed with the 10x spacebar layout plates?

[osxoep]

Just to confirm, I've posted a request to change my order to:

0 x Switches
2 x GH60 PCBs
1 x ISO 1.5x (Pure Shift) Plate
1 x Cherry Plate Stabs
1 x Cherry PCB Stabs

I've already got another source for switches, so except a USB cable, case and keycaps, that's all I need?

[SmallFry]

Just to confirm,
I've already got another source for switches, so except a USB cable, case and keycaps, that's all I need?

You are correct.

[jdcarpe]

Could someone please pm me my order.
I would like to check if I need to do any last minute changes.

Also I like to clarify that I'm fully aware that the stabilizers come in complete sets.
And yes I have order quite a lot of them. I might even add a couple more.
Better safe than sorry. You never know when you might need a stabilizer.

Sent you a PM.

Just to confirm, I've posted a request to change my order to:

0 x Switches
2 x GH60 PCBs
1 x ISO 1.5x (Pure Shift) Plate
1 x Cherry Plate Stabs
1 x Cherry PCB Stabs

I've already got another source for switches, so except a USB cable, case and keycaps, that's all I need?

Yes, that's what I have for your order.

[samwisekoi]

So has it been figured out about how this GB might proceed with the 10x spacebar layout plates?

Retro DSA recently caused me to spend some time looking at the specs for spacebars of many lengths, and I think we could create a GH60 plate that would support various long bars.  Specifically 8x, 9x, 9.75x, and 10x, which share some/all mounting dimensions.

(Yes, those people who think their 10x is only 9.75x long -- it IS only 9.75x long.  Those are from WYSE terminal boards.  They will fit on the same mounts, but there will be visible gaps on the bottom row.)

Anyhow, jdcarpe was going to/has sent me the DWG for the long spacebar plate.  I'll take that and check it against the list of spacebars above and possibly make adjustments so as many as possible will fit on the GH60.

Then, because it would look extra-awesome, we'll include long spacebars in the Retro Green/Blue GB so that people can make GH60 versions of the Nuclear Data boards.

FWIW,

 - Ron | samwisekoi

[bugsaint]

Order submitted for:

1x PCB
1x Poker plate
1x Plate mounted cherry stabilizers (6.25 wire)
1x Asssembly service.

As I'm in the UK, I'll get the switches from 7bit (used him before and happy to use him again) and tag the order with GH60 so they get shipped to Komar... I assume.

Now to source an (any non plastic) case.  Ideas?

[Tarzan]

So has it been figured out about how this GB might proceed with the 10x spacebar layout plates?

Then, because it would look extra-awesome, we'll include long spacebars in the Retro Green/Blue GB so that people can make GH60 versions of the Nuclear Data boards.

^This!  Yes, Please!   

[LechnerDE]

Just submitted an order for two complete ISO sets.

My poor wallet...

[Dubsgalore]

Going to submit my order soon for 1 WKL Setup and 1 Regular Poker setup

i have put so much thought and time into this order...

[danielucf]

So has it been figured out about how this GB might proceed with the 10x spacebar layout plates?

10x spacebar layout plates?
10x spacebar layout plates
10x spacebar layout
10x spacebar
10x

/sploosh

If there is going to be a plate that supports 10x spacebar I mush have it.

[jdcarpe]

I think we should add this plate (I can add ISO version as well), which supports bottom row layouts of:

1.50-1.00-10.00-1.00-1.50

1.25-1.25-10.00-1.25-1.25

1.50-1.00-1.50-7.00-1.50-1.00-1.50

[esoomenona]

I understand if this is a no, but would it be possible to just change the bottom row of the following plates to that bottom row: ANSI 1.5, ANSI 1.5 Pure, ISO 1.5, ISO 1.5 Pure?

[jdcarpe]

I would think it could replace any of the 1.5x plates, including "True HHKB" etc.

[SmallFry]

Too many plates! AHH!

[Index]

Can someone pm my order? Need to make sure I ordered the correct items. Thanks in advance!

[esoomenona]

I would think it could replace any of the 1.5x plates, including "True HHKB" etc.

Mhm, mhm. I like where this is going.

[whiskytango]

I would think it could replace any of the 1.5x plates, including "True HHKB" etc.

Excellent idea! I believe WFD was talking about this possibility earlier in the thread. I would love to see this, it would make my decision on what to order somewhat easier. I have been holding off so far so I don't end up asking for a million order changes...

jd, if/when this decision is made, can you post it? I will go ahead and make a final order decision at that time. Thanks

[Dubsgalore]

So the 1.5x plate is being removed and a 10x spacebar plate is replacing it? :/

[danielucf]

I think 1.25 1.25 10 1.25 1.25 with 1.75x shift and 1x to the right of shift would be ideal for me. Although 1.5 1x 10 1 1.5 is also  enticing, but harder to have a 1x alt key. As long as I can use one of my  10x spacebars I have sitting around I'll be quite happy. I'll hold off on order changing until the plate options supporting 10x spacebar are solidified.

[samwisekoi]

I think we should add this plate (I can add ISO version as well), which supports bottom row layouts of:

1.50-1.00-10.00-1.00-1.50

1.25-1.25-10.00-1.25-1.25

1.50-1.00-1.50-7.00-1.50-1.00-1.50

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Thank jdcarpe for the DWG file.

Comparing that with documents from DT and SP,  I can confirm that this plate will work for 7x Cherry and 10x Cherry.  Also you could fit a 9.75 Wyse with small gaps, and an 8x spacebar, although I don't know if there is a mod combo on the PCB that adds up to 3.5 on each side (e.g. 1.5-1-1 or 1.25-1-1.25.)

SP has molds for 8x and 9x, and I have requested mounting specs for those to see if they will fit as well.

I agree that this plate ought to be made, and also that perhaps it should have "universal" mounts for the mods.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

[WhiteFireDragon]

I already have all the plate designs worked out after this post, so here's what is happening:

All plates with 1.5x modifier spacing will have additional cutouts for a 10x (also 8x and 9x) spacebar. Meaning it's compatible with both 7x - 10x spacebars. There is also a "universal" plate that supports every layout except ones with inner 1.25x modifiers. It's basically the same exact one as this post but with cuttouts for 7x spacebar, which is almost identical to the one jdcarpe just posted. This will probably be special made one since I don't imagine will get high quantity orders. I tried to integrate this with the current universal plate, but the overlaps make this impossible.

The replica HHKB layout with 6x offset spacebar can just use the current univeral plate design, it's perfectly compatible.

I'll post a pic this new plate and updated plates when I get home. I already sent the universal plate design for prototype.
 

[noxwood]

If I want just a split backspace on US-ANSI, will HHKB work or will I have to go for ANSI-UNI?

[Dubsgalore]

Quick question...while i make final edits..

Fug Costars

Which Cherrys Should i go for?

is there a huge difference between PCB mounted and Plate Mounted? My Pure and Poker both have PCB...but would Plate mounted be better?

looking for opinions yall

[WhiteFireDragon]

If you have a plate, might as well take advantage of using plate-mounted stabilizers. Also, you can swap them out much easier. If you use PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers, it's impossible to remove without desoldering all your switches and taking off the plate. If you don't use a plate, then well, you don't really have a choice. And also the universal plate doesn't give you a choice either, you need to use PCB-mounted cherries.

[L4yercake]

I believe plate-mounted to be superior then the PCB mounted. Mainly because it feels more stable and I've had errors with PCB mount and nothing has ever come with the plate-mounted.

[Dubsgalore]

If you have a plate, might as well take advantage of using plate-mounted stabilizers. Also, you can swap them out much easier. If you use PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers, it's impossible to remove without desoldering all your switches and taking off the plate. If you don't use a plate, then well, you don't really have a choice. And also the universal plate doesn't give you a choice either, you need to use PCB-mounted cherries.

will have a plate for my WinKeyless GH60

and if i can afford a second, will have a plate for my 'poker' style GH60

so i should go with plate mounted?

[metalliqaz]

If anyone wants some 10x space bars... I've got lots of them.

[fl0w3n]

Is PCB Mount Cherry Stabilizers really that big of a "drawback" on the universal plates, or is the "drawback" part the lack of options?

[Dubsgalore]

one last thing...what's the difference between the Universal ANSI plate and the Poker Plate?

if i want a standard poker layout...i should get a poker plate correct

(herp derp question)