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Offline thaddeus

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #250 on: Fri, 11 December 2015, 18:45:47 »
I've got 70 65g Zealios from the GB and have been planning and browsing around for a PCB/case.... now I can only think of the WhiteFox

Matt3o, it's a gorgeous work, thank you for putting this together! Time to dig through my couch cracks and search for the $100 I need :)

Seeing that you've already had 750+ purchases, it's safe to say this board is in high demand. What are your thoughts about running a second round GB?

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #251 on: Fri, 11 December 2015, 18:58:15 »
Does the plate allow the switch tops to be opened without desoldering them?

I decided to go with the fully assembled Gateron Brown option as $15 is cheaper than buying a soldering iron and learning how to solder.

If at some point in the future I decide to get some purple Zealios can just I pop the switch open and swap the slider and spring in? Would that feel the same as proper Zealios?
Based on the massdrop plate photos they should however, it won't work if you have LED's installed unless you use sip sockets for the LED's.

Zealios have modified contact leaves compared to normal Gaterons, so they wouldn't be compatible, at least not the purple Zealios, as the original leaf was incompatible with Cherry MX Clear sliders. I vaguely recall a member on here swapping out all the contacts on their Gateron switches for Cherry contacts just so they could use MX clear stems. This was before Zealios landed.

You can always get linear Zealios if they are still available, as those do have modified leaves that are compatible with clear stems/purple zealio stems.


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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #252 on: Fri, 11 December 2015, 22:06:46 »
Also, do you have any tips for building a keyboard from scratch?
Check this thread out.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #253 on: Fri, 11 December 2015, 22:17:52 »
I was convinced I was going to get an Aria layout until, like, right now.  The True Fox is calling and I am pretty curious.  I think that is a really interesting layout...   Hmmm, decisions...

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #254 on: Fri, 11 December 2015, 23:46:33 »
Anyone in the US who is already planning to place an order willing to proxy for me to Canada?  I am trying to avoid the 60$ in duty that I will get dinged with if I order directly from Massdrop...

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #255 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 01:13:32 »
Ordered one.  Layout: Aria

Thank you Matt3o !!!!

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #256 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 03:27:44 »
thanks everybody! I'm so glad you liked the whitefox and I'm overwhelmed by the success. I told MD that I would be happy with 200 pieces sold, but we are beyond any expectation.

Seeing that you've already had 750+ purchases, it's safe to say this board is in high demand. What are your thoughts about running a second round GB?

we are already talking about that. stay tuned!


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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #257 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 04:40:56 »
Ouch! Was just about to order but noticed the Tactile Zelios are all sold out  :'(
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #258 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 07:48:00 »
What is included in the package, along with a creative design makes this a very good deal, congratulations Matt.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #259 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 07:56:50 »
thanks, really appreciated!

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #260 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 10:16:40 »
Anyone in the US who is already planning to place an order willing to proxy for me to Canada?  I am trying to avoid the 60$ in duty that I will get dinged with if I order directly from Massdrop...

Swill -- I'll hook you up. PM me if you still need a proxy.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #261 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 10:26:58 »
thanks everybody! I'm so glad you liked the whitefox and I'm overwhelmed by the success. I told MD that I would be happy with 200 pieces sold, but we are beyond any expectation.

Seeing that you've already had 750+ purchases, it's safe to say this board is in high demand. What are your thoughts about running a second round GB?

we are already talking about that. stay tuned!

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #262 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 11:20:52 »
Is there no way to get everything but switches?

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #263 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 11:25:14 »
Is there no way to get everything but switches?

Unfortunately not.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #264 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 11:50:46 »
Is there no way to get everything but switches?


You can get the switches at other places pal, this is about the PCB the plates and the case, come on.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #265 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 11:56:53 »
Is there no way to get everything but switches?


You can get the switches at other places pal, this is about the PCB the plates and the case, come on.

I think he was referring to the ability to get the key caps and USB cable too. Unfortunately, those options are only available in the full DIY kit, which includes switches.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #266 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 12:15:28 »
Is there no way to get everything but switches?


You can get the switches at other places pal, this is about the PCB the plates and the case, come on.

I think he was referring to the ability to get the key caps and USB cable too. Unfortunately, those options are only available in the full DIY kit, which includes switches.


My bad, sorry, I did not read it carefully.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #267 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 12:53:14 »
thanks everybody! I'm so glad you liked the whitefox and I'm overwhelmed by the success. I told MD that I would be happy with 200 pieces sold, but we are beyond any expectation.

Seeing that you've already had 750+ purchases, it's safe to say this board is in high demand. What are your thoughts about running a second round GB?

we are already talking about that. stay tuned!

Yay! Hopefully the special edition will be available in the second run.  :D
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #268 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:16:11 »
Placed my order for an aria kit. Love it! Thanks!

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #269 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:28:10 »
Bought two True Fox barebones kits - tempted to change one to WKL but I think this is the one to go with :)

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #270 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:41:25 »
Is there no way to get everything but switches?


You can get the switches at other places pal, this is about the PCB the plates and the case, come on.

I think he was referring to the ability to get the key caps and USB cable too. Unfortunately, those options are only available in the full DIY kit, which includes switches.


My bad, sorry, I did not read it carefully.

No problem. Yeah; really want everything and use my own switches because Zealios sold out but oh well. Don't really want to spend the extra on some switches I won't use.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #271 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:55:59 »
Is there no way to get everything but switches?


You can get the switches at other places pal, this is about the PCB the plates and the case, come on.

I think he was referring to the ability to get the key caps and USB cable too. Unfortunately, those options are only available in the full DIY kit, which includes switches.


My bad, sorry, I did not read it carefully.

No problem. Yeah; really want everything and use my own switches because Zealios sold out but oh well. Don't really want to spend the extra on some switches I won't use.

You could get the unassembled kit with Gateron switches, I don't think that those add to the price.
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #272 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 17:00:00 »
Maybe I missed it somewhere, but is this going to be open-sourced at some point? For things like modifying for ALPS, and a split space bar...?

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #273 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 17:01:10 »
Wow these things are flying off the figurative shelves! Glad I got in. Can't wait to tackle this one as my first complete project.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #274 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 17:11:03 »
Is there no way to get everything but switches?


You can get the switches at other places pal, this is about the PCB the plates and the case, come on.

I think he was referring to the ability to get the key caps and USB cable too. Unfortunately, those options are only available in the full DIY kit, which includes switches.


My bad, sorry, I did not read it carefully.

No problem. Yeah; really want everything and use my own switches because Zealios sold out but oh well. Don't really want to spend the extra on some switches I won't use.

You could get the unassembled kit with Gateron switches, I don't think that those add to the price.

Doesn't add to the base price but I just wish there was a switchless option; oh well, most likely will be sold out by the time I get paid.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #275 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 17:32:33 »
You may opt to get the PCB, plate and case only, the other components can be source elsewhere. It is around 110 bucks.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #276 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 18:07:27 »
Doesn't add to the base price but I just wish there was a switchless option; oh well, most likely will be sold out by the time I get paid.

They only bill you when the drop ends, so you can order now, if you want. Plus, they added a second batch of 1,000 (2k total) which will ship a couple/few months later than the first batch, so you are probably okay to wait.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #277 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 18:14:07 »
Doesn't add to the base price but I just wish there was a switchless option; oh well, most likely will be sold out by the time I get paid.

They only bill you when the drop ends, so you can order now, if you want. Plus, they added a second batch of 1,000 (2k total) which will ship a couple/few months later than the first batch, so you are probably okay to wait.

Oh now I have to order one. Although I usually get billed instantly using PayPal?

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #278 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 18:48:54 »
Maybe I missed it somewhere, but is this going to be open-sourced at some point? For things like modifying for ALPS, and a split space bar...?

Seems like it will be soon! Hopefully this happens as soon as possible, really curious about that PCB.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #279 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 19:05:56 »
Doesn't add to the base price but I just wish there was a switchless option; oh well, most likely will be sold out by the time I get paid.

They only bill you when the drop ends, so you can order now, if you want. Plus, they added a second batch of 1,000 (2k total) which will ship a couple/few months later than the first batch, so you are probably okay to wait.

Oh now I have to order one. Although I usually get billed instantly using PayPal?

It's an authorization for payment, but you aren't billed immediately. It should indicate such when you receive the email from Paypal, and if you go into Paypal, it will be under the "Pending" section and indicate you will they complete.

I've seen other sites that also use this rather when the goods are ready to ship, rather than charging immediately.
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #280 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 02:53:55 »
Maybe I missed it somewhere, but is this going to be open-sourced at some point? For things like modifying for ALPS, and a split space bar...?

yes, it's open hardware/software. You'll get everything.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #281 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 04:13:57 »
Hi Matt3o, can you post a picture of the WhiteFox with the LEDs on?

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #282 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 04:16:08 »
Hi Matt3o, can you post a picture of the WhiteFox with the LEDs on?

I'm waiting for some more PCBs to make a full tutorial (and add LEDs)

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #283 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 07:46:50 »
Hi Matt3o, can you post a picture of the WhiteFox with the LEDs on?

I'm waiting for some more PCBs to make a full tutorial (and add LEDs)

Ok, thank you.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #284 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 12:44:58 »
How does this compare to the Inifinity keyboard?  is this programmeable at all?

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #285 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 12:45:49 »
What exactly does "assembled" and not assembled entail.  Am I going to have to do soldiering with not assembled?

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #286 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 12:49:54 »
What exactly does "assembled" and not assembled entail.  Am I going to have to do soldiering with not assembled?

Assembled means the board is shipped to you completely put together. Opting out of the assembled option means that you have to solder the switches and LEDs to the PCB.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #287 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 12:55:36 »
How does this compare to the Inifinity keyboard?  is this programmeable at all?

yes it is fully programmable.


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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #288 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 15:40:06 »
So this is superior to an infinity?
How does this compare to the Inifinity keyboard?  is this programmeable at all?

yes it is fully programmable.



The programming options are similar to the infinity or more like the pok3r?

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #289 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 15:40:42 »
Anyway to get this with Purple Kealios?  I heard something about more being added?

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #290 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 16:00:13 »
It's fully programmable, like the Infinity- you can set the function of any switch on any layer.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #291 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 16:09:08 »
It's meant to be programmed with the Input Club configurator: http://input.club/configurator

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #292 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 16:39:23 »
What layout option is the most popular?

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #293 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 18:35:39 »
What layout option is the most popular?

Not sure exactly, but I would assume it would be the True Fox.
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #294 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 22:05:51 »
Anyone in the US who is already planning to place an order willing to proxy for me to Canada?  I am trying to avoid the 60$ in duty that I will get dinged with if I order directly from Massdrop...

Swill -- I'll hook you up. PM me if you still need a proxy.

Sorry for the delay.  Someone had PMed me, so I am following up with that one first.  If that falls through I will PM you.  Thank you for the offer.  :)

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #295 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 00:15:58 »
Does anyone know if the Gaterons in this drop the KS-1 plate mounted version or the KS-3 PCB mounted version?

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #296 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 03:14:35 »
The programming options are similar to the infinity or more like the pok3r?

no, it's not like the poker 3. You can reprogram the whitefox any way you want with an online tool.

Does anyone know if the Gaterons in this drop the KS-1 plate mounted version or the KS-3 PCB mounted version?

I'm not sure about this, but I would say they are plate mounted.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #297 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 04:00:06 »

Does anyone know if the Gaterons in this drop the KS-1 plate mounted version or the KS-3 PCB mounted version?

I'm not sure about this, but I would say they are plate mounted.

Okay, thanks! I've already got a surplus of Cherry switches that I'd like to use on my WhiteFox. I don't want to go barebones since I do want the caps and the cable, so I figure I can repurpose the Gaterons elsewhere. Even if they are PCB mount I've got some flush cutters. :)

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #298 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 07:04:39 »
Just a quick heads-up if you get the barebone kit without keycaps, Signature Plastics is selling the Midnight Set ( http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dcs-midnight-keycap-set-50-off/ ) with a 50% discount! Just remember to grab the additional modifiers to cover the whitefox!

(for those who don't know the Midnight set is also designed by me)

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #299 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 09:22:29 »
With the group buy being extended to 2000 units (two deployments),  what is the likelihood of the second date having the special edition inclusion at this point?

Will this still be saved for a potential groupbuy in the future rather than this one?
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