hey guys as in topic. I'm trying to play sometimes games like typer of sth but my top score is like ~102(5) wpm (at cherry blue others are always lower). how did you managed to get scores above that? I can imagine that everyone has a limitations, maybe that's mine, but before i'll accept this state I wanna fight.
Utilizing more fingers gives you the greatest chance to increase the rate at which you type. This is part of the reason why the "home row" typing style was developed. That's not to say that other styles can't be similarly or equally as fast, or that it's the best style, but that's generally the gist of it. My style is so strange and hybrid, that my limit seems to be capped at around 120wpm. Changing ones style is a very tall task, especially depending on how long that person has been using that style.
hey guys as in topic. I'm trying to play sometimes games like typer of sth but my top score is like ~102(5) wpm...
Anybody got any tips on how to type slower? I don't want to wear out my keyboards too fast.with your greys,sir ;)
Anybody got any tips on how to type slower? I don't want to wear out my keyboards too fast.
Anybody got any tips on how to type slower? I don't want to wear out my keyboards too fast.
Tip 1: Tape all your fingers together, limits finger mobility.
Tip 2: If Tip 1 isn't feasible, then type with your feet.
#sarcasm
Anybody got any tips on how to type slower? I don't want to wear out my keyboards too fast.
If training can improve speed indefinitely, Sean Wrona would type at 500wpm by now.
Anybody got any tips on how to type slower? I don't want to wear out my keyboards too fast.
Hammer your index finger
hey guys as in topic. I'm trying to play sometimes games like typer of sth but my top score is like ~102(5) wpm (at cherry blue others are always lower). how did you managed to get scores above that? I can imagine that everyone has a limitations, maybe that's mine, but before i'll accept this state I wanna fight.
Well out of the the top 34 typist only 3 use non qwerty and of that 3, only one uses dvorak. He is the fastest typist in the world with dvorak, and he ranks top 23rd fastest typist.
Even he says that you should not switch to dvorak from qwerty in the pursuit of getting faster. He says you will be faster if you use qwerty. Her is a vid on his thoughts on dvorak
Anybody got any tips on how to type slower? I don't want to wear out my keyboards too fast.
Show Image(http://10fastfingers.com/speedtests/generate_screenshot_result/107_546_0_0_98_2_98.66_1823_135761)
Just got this on blacks just now, I made a few mistakes and had a slow start, but It's all about practice, I want to maintain a consistent 115-130 and then I'll be happy.
hey guys as in topic. I'm trying to play sometimes games like typer of sth but my top score is like ~102(5) wpm (at cherry blue others are always lower). how did you managed to get scores above that? I can imagine that everyone has a limitations, maybe that's mine, but before i'll accept this state I wanna fight.
Anybody got any tips on how to type slower? I don't want to wear out my keyboards too fast.
Get an ergodox
Anybody got any tips on how to type slower? I don't want to wear out my keyboards too fast.
Get an ergodox
Or just get 1 half of the ergodox, then put all 26 letter keys into their own layers.
- Float on the keyboard. If you're the type to press really hard when typing, especially when trying to type fast, this might hurt your speed. Your cherry mx blue has actuation point of 2mm and bottom out of 4mm. If you start gradually lightening up your touch such that you can activate the switch without bottoming out, it could make you faster. This is the premise behind the Cherry MX speed silvers where the actuation point is I think 1.2mm with a shorter stroke to bottom out. The less you have to move, the faster you can get to the next word
It's worth noting that we're still arguing two different things.I actually said there is technically a difference but realistically NOT a difference. And what I mean by that is, your fingers are going as fast as they can for your style of typing with a certain amount of force..that force will vary by person and style but they're more than enough to bottom out switches...If you increase the resistance so much as they get closer to bottoming out that it exceeds the force normally provided by someone typing their fastest then they will stop. But that's the same (effectively) as them bottoming out. It isn't them trying to stop themselves from hitting bottom, it is the excessive force needed to overcome what little there is left.
First of all, let's address the notion of bottoming out being wherever you define it to be. Your argument is there's no difference between hitting the bottom that doesn't move and the bottom where your force would normally bottom out. Except there is. There's more force needed to hit bottom than to hit halfway. That's typically how springs work. The more you compress a spring, the more force required to compress the spring. If you're bottoming out vs not bottoming out, that's not the same amount of force being applied. This is pretty obvious for linear switches but gets more complicated with tactical switches based on the severity of the tactile bump. Unavoidable on a buckling spring. Typically for an mx style switch though, after the bump there's additional force that would need to be applied to hit the bottom. Admittedly, on the HP graph, the top of the bump is roughly the same as the bottom of the switch which would lend itself to your notion that it's the same thing. Not the case across the board. There's no sense arguing this point. We can google the force graphs for each switch and see the data instead of arguing opinions. Want a clear example of my argument? Look at the Cherry MX clear force graph. Far steeper than that of a brown.
Analogy: If we have equally fast racecars and I have to travel half the distance you do, I win. Also speed and power are often tradeoffs. A heavyweight boxer is not as fast as a welterweight but has much more powerful strikes, do you agree?Distance might be relative...if that is making you type faster great. Some people type faster with scissor switches..some do not. But there is rhythm and other things involved when typing..which is why a completely FLAT keyboard with zero travel is not likely to be the fastest someone types on correct? And yet by your example it should be...So as you already said, your analogy might not hold up...in fact, it doesn't, we know from experience it doesn't. TECHNICALLY that might be true but we know that for humans, it doesn't work out that way.
tl;dr - Bottoming out doesn't make me faster and I feel like it can be quantified even if I can't qualify it. If someone else finds bottoming out to be faster based on their typing style, then that's faster for them. At the end of the day, OP has two differing opinions and they can try them both out and see what works better for them. And maybe we can offer differing opinions without calling someone else's argument BS because it doesn't apply to them even though there's multiple threads on here, DT, and Reddit that have people on either side of the aisle.There are a bunch of people claiming bottoming out is faster and yet NO ONE has over shown that..or even have a video of them typing without bottoming out at a fast speed. In fact, you rarely see people showing videos of not bottoming out because their typing style looks ridiculous...
Man, your commitment of trying to invalidate me is impressive.
Out of curiosity, how fast do you type, Polymer?
Well, it's not worth continuing this conversation because I'm arguing everyone is different and it's possible and you're arguing everyone is full of crap and wrong.
You win, you're the master of keyboards. Honestly, I had planned on uploading a video because you had me doubting myself and I hit 110 on MX browns without bottoming. But I'm sure you will argue because there are points that I do bottom out. BS, space, double letters are the times where I seem to always bottom out while I don't bottom on the majority of the alphas. But again, it's not worth continuing this anymore so you win. Grats!
Btw, me asking how fast you type wasn't an attempt to validate or invalidate what you say. I'm just trying to understand the logic or science behind what you're saying outside of it's how you feel. Making statements like "...that force will vary by person and style but they're more than enough to bottom out switches..." without applying any science or studies or proof, how is your argument any better than mine?
Anyway, glad to accept the L and move on. Congrats again.
I had planned on uploading a video to show you but honestly continuing to argue this against someone who is not even willing to consider the other side anyway is a waste of time imo. You feel so completely strong about this, you couldn't possibly be wrong so you win. <3
I think improving typing or touch typing to be more specific is all about how much time you're willing to invest.
Me personally, I've had Blacks, Blues and Reds.
Blues - I had a Razer BlackWidow and I got aquainted to that Keyboard in a somewhat fast manner, the max typing test I got over on 10fastfingers was 125-135WPM.
Reds - I had a Noppoo Choc Mini and this took me a fair amount of time to get used to, because of how light the keys are, sadly this is not the keyboard that I can type the best on, but it's the one that I enjoy typing on the most, I think it's a better fit overall for me but the best I got on reds was around 95-110WPM. (dem mistakes).
Blacks - For this I have and I'm currently still using the Keycool 84, now while this keyboard is very nice, I cannot get used to the blacks my WPM has not been over 105/110, which is a bit of a disappointment as my friends who I have advised keyboards too rave over Blacks and how they like them etc, etc, maybe it's this keyboard, but I'm 100% sure it's the switch.
I think to improve you need have better positioning of your keyboard, maybe invest in a wristrest, (I've got the Grifiti 12" wristrest) and just practice, practice, practice. Find the right switch for you and then just stick with that's what I should of done in all fairness, but problems arose with my Noppoo and has forced me to switch to Blacks with the Keycool 84, but hopefully this issue will be sorted when my new Keycool arrives from qTan in a few weeks. :)Show Image(http://10fastfingers.com/speedtests/generate_screenshot_result/107_546_0_0_98_2_98.66_1823_135761)
Just got this on blacks just now, I made a few mistakes and had a slow start, but It's all about practice, I want to maintain a consistent 115-130 and then I'll be happy.
I had planned on uploading a video to show you but honestly continuing to argue this against someone who is not even willing to consider the other side anyway is a waste of time imo. You feel so completely strong about this, you couldn't possibly be wrong so you win. <3
Wouldn't a video show exactly that? Isn't that why I'm asking for a video? But what usually happens is the reality of bottoming out is, you're bottoming out...maybe not hard or every keystroke, but you're bottoming out and that's why you don't want to show a video (and why others never do). But provide a video showing you're not at 110-120wpm (or the 120+ you've claimed, even better) and for sure I'll tell you great job and consider that it is possible. That's why I'm asking for proof. Simple. It isn't a matter of opinion. If you're not bottoming out, you're not bottoming out. Obviously if you quantify you're bottoming out only X amount of time or with certain keys then this becomes more difficult to see on video but if you're confident, prove it.
I had planned on uploading a video to show you but honestly continuing to argue this against someone who is not even willing to consider the other side anyway is a waste of time imo. You feel so completely strong about this, you couldn't possibly be wrong so you win. <3
Wouldn't a video show exactly that? Isn't that why I'm asking for a video? But what usually happens is the reality of bottoming out is, you're bottoming out...maybe not hard or every keystroke, but you're bottoming out and that's why you don't want to show a video (and why others never do). But provide a video showing you're not at 110-120wpm (or the 120+ you've claimed, even better) and for sure I'll tell you great job and consider that it is possible. That's why I'm asking for proof. Simple. It isn't a matter of opinion. If you're not bottoming out, you're not bottoming out. Obviously if you quantify you're bottoming out only X amount of time or with certain keys then this becomes more difficult to see on video but if you're confident, prove it.
A video would show exactly that. And you had me doubting myself so I did another half a dozen tests because you had me doubting myself, I can say I'm 100% confident. And, hell, maybe the reasoning has more to do with my motor skills because the harder I type, the more mistakes I make so that slows me down. But from the moment you offered your opinions, it's been in a nasty way that calls out everyone as wrong who doesn't agree with them while offering refutation like this:
"There are plenty of studies that talk whether it makes sense to move to an alternate layout..but those studies are flawed. You only really have to look at the basics of it."
If there are studies, are all of these studies meritless? Have they been conducted in a manner that is biased? Or are they legit studies and you're a science denier?
You are so knowledgeable and so experienced, it doesn't matter what other people think or say if you can say they're wrong while offering refutations like this: "You only really have to look at the basics of it." Perhaps if the fastest typists in the world don't use the same layout or typing styles then perhaps there's a small chance that what you accept to be the absolute truth...isn't. Because everyone is different. I have had fun on monkey-type where they have an option to type the mirror image instead of regular text. My PR is 85wpm. Can you do that? If you can't, does that mean it's not possible? I had a friend that could type 70wpm one-handed (I didn't want to know why). I claimed it wasn't possible. I watched him do it. I lost $20 in the process. I accept that you're mostly right and maybe you're right for >90-95%. Maybe more. If one person out of 1,000 improves from advice given that is unorthodox or not the norm, then that person would find it useful advice.
I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else, here. I offered advice that works for me and you **** all over it. I start to question myself so I test it out and find largely I practice what I preach. At this point, I doubt even a video would change your mind because as you said it would be too difficult for you to tell since I admit that I do occasionally bottom out. Sorry to say but it's not worth to continue with the negativity so let me reiterate for the last time:
Polymer - 1; Diazel - 0. I WAS WRONG AND I CONCEDE MY LOSS.
Time to for me to move on and not waste anymore time arguing over this. Thanks for the memories. :thumb:
I see a lot of the mech community using monkeytype as a benchmark for WPM. I'm curious how your speed compares in moneytype to a more real-world / practical typing test site like keyhero.com that uses actual quotes with punctuation, number, names, etc.? I need to spend some time w/ monkeytype and see how my performance there compares to my keyhero.com tests which are currently averaging 90 WPM w/ ~98.3% accuracy.Monkey can do quotes too. They've got classics, leaders, poems, literary figures, even Michael Scott.
I see a lot of the mech community using monkeytype as a benchmark for WPM. I'm curious how your speed compares in moneytype to a more real-world / practical typing test site like keyhero.com that uses actual quotes with punctuation, number, names, etc.? I need to spend some time w/ monkeytype and see how my performance there compares to my keyhero.com tests which are currently averaging 90 WPM w/ ~98.3% accuracy.