Ars, Ubuntu, Geekhack..orange on dark. Buncha clones.
Apart from seemingly broken wireless management (9.04 was better than Win7 at connecting, 10.04 is worse), it's great. And people *****ing about the new default theme. It's a bloody theme, change it!
The wireless support in 9.04 was one of the reasons why I stopped using Ubuntu...
I can actually get **** done in Windows.
I'm sure there are stranger hobbies than trying out a new OS every week.
Sounds like a full time job supporting multiple OS's.
Only if you're doing it wrong.
Good call. That's why I needed a new job. Mine was too easy, and there was nowhere to go upwards. Time for change. May 31st; I can't wait. It's funny watching the people that are about to take over my stuff freaking out about learning what I do... and they thought I sat around and posted on Geekhack all day.
I find using the right tool for the job makes my life a lot easier.
Apart from seemingly broken wireless management (9.04 was better than Win7 at connecting, 10.04 is worse), it's great. And people *****ing about the new default theme. It's a bloody theme, change it!
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Looks pretty sweet. Check it. (http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2010/05/lucid-dream-ars-reviews-ubuntu-1004.ars/)
I like the comments I have heard in regards to the ugly purple background. I mean, who really keeps the default wallpaper? That's one of the first things I change when I install a new OS.
Like most people, the first thing you change is the wallpaper. But I am ok with the controls on the left. Seems kind of weird at first, but I got used to it. From what I am reading, some people got bent out of shape over it.I just have trouble with the controls on the left, and see no reason why I should have to, :wink:
I don't know. Pick another theme?
cool, I saw something like that somewhere on the interweb. Its nice that you are able to change it, but Canonical should have made it a bit easier to do for the average user.
I don't care so much for myself. Am using 9.10 on my laptop at work and the controls are on the right. At home its 10.04 with the controls on the left. It doesn't trip me up so much so its no worries.
I was reading somewhere that there is a reason for moving the controls to the left. I think Canonical is going to introduce "something" to occupy the right side. Not sure yet what they plan on doing.
Maybe something to do with Gnome-desktop; I suppose we will see when 10.10 comes out in October.
Today I updated my Asus 900A to Ubuntu 10.4 Netbook Edition. It's snappier all around, and every device worked without any tinkering. I've never been able to say that about a Linux distro before.
Does Ubuntu include drivers for 4-wire passive touch screen? (5-wire = multitouch)
Does this version require the ability to compile your own drivers as well? Maybe I should stop following this thread..........
i hate that. I just want to double-click a setup executable and move on.
Does this version require the ability to compile your own drivers as well? Maybe I should stop following this thread..........
Until Linux gets to that point (same with installing any software), I don't think it will be viable in the desktop arena. Say what you will about Windows, but it sure is easy to use, and I can get **** done.
people are like "HURR DURR COMMAND LINE LOLOLOL" and fail to appreciate that it's objectively better by just about any metric.
Linux -
1) Open a terminal.
2) [OPTIONAL] I run 'apt-cache search xyz' if I dont know the exact name of the software package I'm looking for.
3) Type 'sudo apt-get install zyx'
Point proven.
If you could type in "help how do I install a new program" and it gave you concise, clear instructions (as above), then it wouldn't matter so much.
Does this version require the ability to compile your own drivers as well? Maybe I should stop following this thread..........
I'm a cheap so and so.
I bought this card on a Newegg shell shocker deal without even bothering to check the driver situation. As it turned out I didn't find Linux drivers on the Belkin support site. I tried to load the windows driver via ndiswrapper but that didn't work. Well, actually it worked but only as 802.11g as with the built-in driver. The drivers within Ubuntu had also worked "right out of the box" so to speak, just not at 802.11n speeds. This is better than I probably deserved considering that I didn't check up front. But as I posted earlier, I did find generic Linux source code on the chipset vendor website and was able to compile a working 802.11n driver from that.
Compare this to a few years ago when I bought an 802.11g card on clearance for my Windows box. It had drivers but they were old and terrible and not going to get better since the company selling them was not going to develop them any more. I spent much more time looking for Windows drivers for that card and it never really worked as well as I would have liked.
Both situations were the result of my short sighted cheapness. I feel at least as good about the Linux situation than the Windows, if not better. From my perspective I'm running the lastest released code for this card's chipset compiled right on my box. Heck if I had a little more time and gumption I'd compile the firmware for my Linux based routers to, but I've so far been proven too lazy to do that. To be honest had there been a binary up there I would have just grabbed it and called it good, but there wasn't. So if I wanted the latest version I had to compile it.
Folks don't seem to shy away from compiling their own stuff so much in the Linux world and it isn't considered as extreme a thing to do as in the Windows world. But it's not typically REQUIRED. In fact it wasn't required in my case for the card to work, it worked out of the box. But considering Belkin didn't offer Linux drivers, it was the only choice I found if I wanted to run at 802.11n speeds.
Which is?
Oh no! People have to learn two commands to install software on their computers! God forbid that they have to have any concept about what they are doing!
Usually I don't judge companies on the basis of one bad product... But after that router of their's I had....
That obscure commands are not intuitive. Even when you know what they do it's hard to work out what the abbreviation/acronym stands for! SUDO? Even DOS had semi workoutable acronyms. Wanted to change directory? Type CD. Is there similar logic behind SUDO? It sure as hell doesn't stand for Install Application.Oh no! People have to learn two commands to install software on their computers! God forbid that they have to have any concept about what they are doing![/QUOTE]
That obscure commands are not intuitive. Even when you know what they do it's hard to work out what the abbreviation/acronym stands for! SUDO? Even DOS had semi workoutable acronyms. Wanted to change directory? Type CD. Is there similar logic behind SUDO? It sure as hell doesn't stand for Install Application.
That attitude is precisely why Linux has the odds against it. An unwillingness to meet users half way.
My Wireless G router (I believe it's the -2000 revision, and not the G Plus) has proven to be pretty much excellent in range, throughput and connection reliability. It's got a funny LED glitch but no serious problems.
Friend has a G+ and also has had no issues.
Friend with an N, however...has experienced some minor connection issues.
Had a funny experience with one of their routers, but that's a story for another night... Linksys is the way to go for routers, although Dlink make some great ones too.
SUDO = Super User (or switch user, to super user) Do (basically, run as admin)
It is intuitive if you already know...lol.
This got butchered by someone's poor multiquoting, not sure whose exactly...
That obscure commands are not intuitive. Even when you know what they do it's hard to work out what the abbreviation/acronym stands for! SUDO? Even DOS had semi workoutable acronyms. Wanted to change directory? Type CD. Is there similar logic behind SUDO? It sure as hell doesn't stand for Install Application.
That attitude is precisely why Linux has the odds against it. An unwillingness to meet users half way.
I hate that. I just want to double-click a setup executable and move on.
Linux -
1) Open a terminal.
2) [OPTIONAL] I run 'apt-cache search xyz' if I dont know the exact name of the software package I'm looking for.
3) Type 'sudo apt-get install zyx'
4) I enter my password and press y.
5) Without any further intervention it downloads and completes.
You were saying something about a certain OS needing a better software installation procedure?
Software package management is very different on linux when compared to windows.
YMMV of course, but I have had good luck. Instead of searching the internet for drivers and software packages like I do for windows, I use synaptic or apt-get to access a software package database. If its in the repo, and theres lots of stuff in the repos, I click and install.
I use both linux and windows, and really, its hard to beat apt-get for software management. Now, you could say that the software that is available for linux is ****. And I suppose to a certain degree that would be true; things like autocad, photoshop and other advanced apps are not available for linux. Thankfully, I don't use those apps so its not like I am missing out.
But thats not the fault of linux. It would be up to the software vendor to write the app so it runs under linux. That is a whole nother story though.
Just for clarity, the only reason I even use windows (XP in a vm) is because the applications I do use are only available for windows and are needed by me to program the phone switches I work on. The past few years have brought some relief as the programming interfaces can now be accessed via a web browser.
Suggesting someone is cheap for buying Belkin (just an example) which happens to be a reputable company which manufacturers decent quality products is ridiculous.
The WRT54 family is like the Model M of wireless routers...
My main bone of contention with Belkin was their customer service... Oh dear God...
Oddly, that seems to put me in the minority. I don't know anyone personally that runs linux.
Except for my wife and a friend in Phoenix.
Now that's true love. I would NEVER risk that with my wife.Oh hell no. Might have a little hacker in my soul and love Linux myself but I'm not that crazy. YMMV, but I know my wife.
: ) My wife doesn't use much beyond the browser, thunderbird and our financial program. She could use any OS for that.
Nowadays, 95% of what she is doing is via a browser anyway.
Looks like Mint just released a new version based on 10.04I wish there were a Mint Netbook Edition. I was a big fan of Mint and used it on my desktop, but I've basically given up on using any Linux distro on it. When I build my next machine, I'll do the homework ahead of time to find vendors that offer better support.
Bigpook - that's what YOU think. My keylogger on her machine tells me she's been hanging around those Russian porn sites.