Cosmetic Surgery

[tp4tissue]

Gekhak Thoughts ?

Good/Bad
Social Implication
Personal Choice

[Carcharocles]

In my mind, unnecessary surgeries lead to unnecessary complications. That said, a lot of insurances classify certain operations as cosmetic even in cases where they have a health benefit, although there are usually non-surgical treatments available for the more common cases.

The your choice thing is something I agree with, but people need to realize that every surgery puts them at risk for infections and other complications that could disfigure or even kill them. And we can all agree too many facelifts just leads to a face that looks inhumanly smooth.

[tp4tissue]

And we can all agree too many facelifts just leads to a face that looks inhumanly smooth.

I blame Samsun Fones..

[Coreda]

Michael Jackson still looked good with his first nose job for his Thriller era. Then he turned all white and felt he needed further adjustments.

Lesson: never go full Michael Jackson.

[Findecanor]

I'm all for restorative plastic surgery: to fix something with your body that is abnormal.
However, if it is too apparent that you've had surgery then that is a signal to the world that you are vane and either insecure and/or a douchebag ... or that your career is in the porn industry.

Famously, Angelina Jolie had a genetic predisposition towards breast cancer, so she had her breasts removed - and replaced with implants of the same size: I think that's a good use of plastic surgery.
However, if you've got calf implants to look like muscles because you want to look ripped but don't want to spend time in the gym, then with all due respect: feck off!

... people need to realize that every surgery puts them at risk for infections and other complications that could disfigure or even kill them.

Indeed. Bill Paxton died from a post-op stroke, caused by a blod clot he got during surgery.

I've had a surgical wound get infected. I had to go and have it taken care of by a nurse every day for about two months, and it left me with what looked like a second belly button.
Edit: I've had surgery in that area since, that reduced the "belly button" look, but the rest of the scar looks bad.

[futurecrime]

I think I will stick with the wigs.

[futurecrime]

On that note, I remember seeing something on breakfast tele some years ago where they were discussing (super football star) Wayne Rooney's hair implants, and saying it was wonderful that we'd reached a time where men were comfortable talking openly about undergoing this surgical procedure. It riled me up cos I was like no actually that's wrongthink, we should be at a place where men and society in general should be cool about being bald.  It used to be fine in the 70s yo. Now everyone is like are you receding? Sorry mate you've got two choices, either undergo surgery or shave your head and hope you look like Jason ****ing Statham. Bull****. Rock the skullet and have fun with wigs, that's what I reckon.

[noisyturtle]

Just pay for a sleeve upgrade

[tp4tissue]

I'm all for fixing something with your body that is obviously wrong with your appearance. If your surgery is apparent then that is a signal to the world that you are vane and either insecure and/or a douchebag ... or your career is in the porn industry.

Famously, Angelina Jolie had a genetic predisposition towards breast cancer, so she had her breasts removed - and replaced with implants of the same size. Fine.
If you got calf implants to look like muscles because you want to look ripped but don't want to spend time in the gym, Feck Off!

Hrrrrmm... But that's an arbitrary cutoff..

Let's say Someone else is a farmer..   He could say,  Oh, that gym-goer is no good, he's converting his time into wasteful vanity, instead of planting crops, doing real labor for the greater good of humanity..


Even day to day,  why did Findecandor wear a blue shirt today, instead of a Grey shirt..   

Why do they put stickers on race-cars.


The difference between Deception and something being merely _What it is_  is that Deception generally prelude some social harm..


Vanity itself isn't social harm, and it only needs justification by the person who at present time wields it..

[Olumin]

Such surgery should always require a medical need.

Birth defects, disfigurement and certain medical conditions are such needs.

These would need to be diagnosed by a certified medical professional, and such a cosmetic/medical procedure would need to be prescribed.

Anything else should not be permitted, from facial lifts, to liposuctions, Botox... you name it. Would not be permitted of I had a say in it.

This is merely my opinion, but then again, you asked for it. Keep in mind, I also don’t approve of the kind of things women/girls these days are allowed to wear in public. To me this is plain indecent exposure. So, I suppose you are all pretty lucky I don’t rule the world.

[noisyturtle]

There is no such thing as minor surgery. I've learned this recently firsthand. ALL surgery is serious with long-term, painful, and ugly recovery no matter how small the procedure.

People who think "I'll just have a quick nip 'n tuck" who have never gone under the knife are in for very rude awakenings.
Here's a shocker: It hurts like Hell to have your body cut open and hurts even more trying to close itself back up

[tp4tissue]

Such surgery should always require a medical need.

Birth defects, disfigurement and certain medical conditions are such needs.

These would need to be diagnosed by a certified medical professional, and such a cosmetic/medical procedure would need to be prescribed.

Anything else should not be permitted, from facial lifts, to liposuctions, Botox... you name it. Would not be permitted of I had a say in it.

This is merely my opinion, but then again, you asked for it. Keep in mind, I also don’t approve of the kind of things women/girls these days are allowed to wear in public. To me this is plain indecent exposure. So, I suppose you are all pretty lucky I don’t rule the world.

But what about actors/actresses where being pretty IS THE JOB

[noisyturtle]

Such surgery should always require a medical need.

Birth defects, disfigurement and certain medical conditions are such needs.

These would need to be diagnosed by a certified medical professional, and such a cosmetic/medical procedure would need to be prescribed.

Anything else should not be permitted, from facial lifts, to liposuctions, Botox... you name it. Would not be permitted of I had a say in it.

This is merely my opinion, but then again, you asked for it. Keep in mind, I also don’t approve of the kind of things women/girls these days are allowed to wear in public. To me this is plain indecent exposure. So, I suppose you are all pretty lucky I don’t rule the world.

But what about actors/actresses where being pretty IS THE JOB

You mean terrible actors who rely on their looks to cover up their lack of talent?

[yui]

Such surgery should always require a medical need.

Birth defects, disfigurement and certain medical conditions are such needs.

These would need to be diagnosed by a certified medical professional, and such a cosmetic/medical procedure would need to be prescribed.

Anything else should not be permitted, from facial lifts, to liposuctions, Botox... you name it. Would not be permitted of I had a say in it.

i do agree with some reserve, liposuctions for example in some extreme cases can be a life saver

This is merely my opinion, but then again, you asked for it. Keep in mind, I also don’t approve of the kind of things women/girls these days are allowed to wear in public. To me this is plain indecent exposure. So, I suppose you are all pretty lucky I don’t rule the world.

and even though i am relatively young, i do somewhat agree with you on that one too, some go way too far, i am not a proponent to going back to the 60's dress code, but when there is not enough jean to cover the underwear i think it goes too far, and also when they complain that it is cold all the time while wearing essentially nothing... i guess i am older than i thought

But what about actors/actresses where being pretty IS THE JOB

the good part is that pretty is subjective, there is a woman i find downright beautiful that a friend of mine find ugly, and the reverse is actually also true, never found any of his girlfriends attractive. but i am one of those freak who do not find Angelina Jolie pretty sooo yeah maybe not a majority

[Olumin]

But what about actors/actresses where being pretty IS THE JOB

They should have picked a different job then shouldn't they.

i do agree with some reserve, liposuctions for example in some extreme cases can be a life saver

In such extreme cases, this would classify as a necessary, lifesaving procedure, not a cosmetic surgery.

[tp4tissue]

But what about actors/actresses where being pretty IS THE JOB

They should have picked a different job then shouldn't they.

i do agree with some reserve, liposuctions for example in some extreme cases can be a life saver

In such extreme cases, this would classify as a necessary, lifesaving procedure, not a cosmetic surgery.

Well a rock is just a rock until you buff and polish it, then it can become an ornament, a paperweight, a jewel.

It's arbitrary where we set the spec for cosmetic intervention, because gene manipulation is inevitable. Natural or not, polished is polished, engineering is engineering. In the end there will be convergence in the Borg Cube.

Gems could be hidden in giant boulders.

An Ugly person could have the greatest of ideas, but no one would listen to him/her because he's of low birth or physically unattractive.  Intervention is justifiable for all applicants.

[Olumin]

In the end there will be convergence in the Borg Cube.