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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 24 July 2018, 23:25:53 »
In if its compatible with Mars 8.0. Will have to research this since it's not included in the spreadsheet yet...

It wont fit Mars 8.0 sorry  :(  the proprietary mars pcb has a really long usb "neck", seen here: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180424/cf17c7b45d58f5d0dbfb14c264b167c6.jpg

Ugh that's exactly the issue I thought it might have ;(

Should update the spreadsheet ;)


If you scroll down to the "TKL Cases packaged with Custom PCB's" section you will see Mars 8.0 is included.

The spreadsheet is for a.87 compatible cases mostly, witch Mars 8.0 isnt unfortunately  :(

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 24 July 2018, 23:32:41 »
RFQ for PCB fab + assembly submitted

Finishing up the protos this week, goal is to ship them next Monday July 30

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 24 July 2018, 23:36:49 »
In if its compatible with Mars 8.0. Will have to research this since it's not included in the spreadsheet yet...


Now that i think about it, technically you may be able to use h.87a with Mars 8.0 but you would have to remove the usb port and then solder the usb wire directly to the pcb... depending on the clearances inside the mars8.0 case it could work.

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 25 July 2018, 00:01:05 »
In if its compatible with Mars 8.0. Will have to research this since it's not included in the spreadsheet yet...


Now that i think about it, technically you may be able to use h.87a with Mars 8.0 but you would have to remove the usb port and then solder the usb wire directly to the pcb... depending on the clearances inside the mars8.0 case it could work.
Could also put in the cable before assembling the bottom case, depends on the cable dimensions tho
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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #54 on: Wed, 25 July 2018, 00:02:27 »
In if its compatible with Mars 8.0. Will have to research this since it's not included in the spreadsheet yet...


Now that i think about it, technically you may be able to use h.87a with Mars 8.0 but you would have to remove the usb port and then solder the usb wire directly to the pcb... depending on the clearances inside the mars8.0 case it could work.

The PCB will have a removable/snap-off USB port, so this is totally doable

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 25 July 2018, 09:15:55 »
Pricing in, safe to say we can def hit the $45 mark starting at 50 total orders. There will likely be a drop to $40 per at 200 total, but that's not set in stone yet.

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 25 July 2018, 09:45:37 »
Pricing in, safe to say we can def hit the $45 mark starting at 50 total orders. There will likely be a drop to $40 per at 200 total, but that's not set in stone yet.

That's awesome to hear. I'll definitely pick up a few at that price  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #57 on: Wed, 25 July 2018, 10:15:13 »
Awesome! I think I would be in for a few at that price point.

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #58 on: Wed, 25 July 2018, 18:21:38 »
In, I believe I'm correct in thinking this will be compatible with a Mira?

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 27 July 2018, 16:47:20 »
I'm in.  I'll most likely pick up 2, will try to use it in The Moon.

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 27 July 2018, 21:56:59 »
i think i'm in for two as well. :)

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 27 July 2018, 23:24:10 »
In, I believe I'm correct in thinking this will be compatible with a Mira?

I'm in for one for my Mira as well, It's B for Mira iirc, can anyone confirm?

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #62 on: Fri, 27 July 2018, 23:30:04 »
I believe it should fit the Mira. That's why I'm interested

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #63 on: Sat, 28 July 2018, 10:15:25 »
I think there is one problem.
It seems that the fixation of the space bar stabilizer is unstable.
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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #64 on: Sat, 28 July 2018, 14:42:41 »
I think there is one problem.
It seems that the fixation of the space bar stabilizer is unstable.
(Attachment Link)

Thanks, that will be fixed on the production version.

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #65 on: Sat, 28 July 2018, 19:24:56 »
I think there is one problem.
It seems that the fixation of the space bar stabilizer is unstable.
(Attachment Link)

Thanks, that will be fixed on the production version.

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that solution is quite similar to the l3 tkl boards. it seems that south facing spacebars may require it for stability.

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 28 July 2018, 20:03:14 »
Yeah the Mech27 one is the same way. Keep in mind I'll be doing an h87b version in the future too, with the spacebar stab oriented the other way.

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #67 on: Sun, 29 July 2018, 00:34:49 »
I think there is one problem.
It seems that the fixation of the space bar stabilizer is unstable.
(Attachment Link)

Thanks, that will be fixed on the production version.

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that solution is quite similar to the l3 tkl boards. it seems that south facing spacebars may require it for stability.

well, you can't screw in the stab all the way if you don't have that, so yes
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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #68 on: Thu, 02 August 2018, 10:35:27 »
Yeah dw the production version has the full stab coverage lol

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #69 on: Thu, 02 August 2018, 10:46:49 »
Really awesome. I'm waiting for your GB, one thing I'm kinda afraid is that shipping fee from your country to mine will make the price go up too much  :(

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #70 on: Thu, 02 August 2018, 10:52:29 »
Really awesome. I'm waiting for your GB, one thing I'm kinda afraid is that shipping fee from your country to mine will make the price go up too much  :(

Where are you at in the world?

Right now international from me will be about $23 I think, based on a 1lb box. I plan to have at least a European proxy, and I'm looking into an Asian one.

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #71 on: Thu, 02 August 2018, 11:15:09 »
Really awesome. I'm waiting for your GB, one thing I'm kinda afraid is that shipping fee from your country to mine will make the price go up too much  :(

Where are you at in the world?

Right now international from me will be about $23 I think, based on a 1lb box. I plan to have at least a European proxy, and I'm looking into an Asian one.

Vietnam to be precise.

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #72 on: Thu, 02 August 2018, 11:19:11 »
Really awesome. I'm waiting for your GB, one thing I'm kinda afraid is that shipping fee from your country to mine will make the price go up too much  :(

Where are you at in the world?

Right now international from me will be about $23 I think, based on a 1lb box. I plan to have at least a European proxy, and I'm looking into an Asian one.

Vietnam to be precise.

Cool. My friend in Indonesia is interested in doing proxying for SEA, so it's very possible.

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« Reply #73 on: Thu, 02 August 2018, 12:07:19 »
Really awesome. I'm waiting for your GB, one thing I'm kinda afraid is that shipping fee from your country to mine will make the price go up too much  :(

Where are you at in the world?

Right now international from me will be about $23 I think, based on a 1lb box. I plan to have at least a European proxy, and I'm looking into an Asian one.

Vietnam to be precise.

Cool. My friend in Indonesia is interested in doing proxying for SEA, so it's very possible.

Cool x2, then maybe I will get x2 PCBs  ;)  So when will you launch GB?

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #74 on: Thu, 02 August 2018, 12:36:03 »
Really awesome. I'm waiting for your GB, one thing I'm kinda afraid is that shipping fee from your country to mine will make the price go up too much  :(

Where are you at in the world?

Right now international from me will be about $23 I think, based on a 1lb box. I plan to have at least a European proxy, and I'm looking into an Asian one.

Vietnam to be precise.

Cool. My friend in Indonesia is interested in doing proxying for SEA, so it's very possible.

Cool x2, then maybe I will get x2 PCBs  ;)  So when will you launch GB?

Aiming for 2-3 weeks. I have to change the diode footprints a little bit, and switch to a different package (SOD-323 is too difficult to repair/reflow if necessary, imo) so a little bit of tweaking there has to be done. Once that's finished, I have to order some assembled prototypes to verify the factory's processes and then we'll be good to go.

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #75 on: Thu, 02 August 2018, 13:02:16 »
I would def be down for a couple of these

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #76 on: Thu, 02 August 2018, 13:17:13 »
im ready to be proxy for people south east asia & asia don't worry  ;D ;D

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« Reply #77 on: Thu, 02 August 2018, 23:13:32 »


prototype pcb received. 

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #78 on: Tue, 07 August 2018, 03:05:58 »


product page is up, buy TBD: http://shop.hineybush.com/product/h87a

Currently waiting for funds to order a run of 10 assembled prototypes of the final version. Once those are verified good to go, the buy will start.

Timeline for start is about 2 weeks from now
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« Reply #79 on: Tue, 07 August 2018, 06:38:44 »
product page is up, buy TBD: http://shop.hineybush.com/product/h87a

Currently waiting for funds to order a run of 10 assembled prototypes of the final version. Once those are verified good to go, the buy will start.

Timeline for start is about 2 weeks from now

Nice, will be in for a couple or more of these.

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« Reply #80 on: Tue, 07 August 2018, 08:29:12 »
product page is up, buy TBD: http://shop.hineybush.com/product/h87a

Currently waiting for funds to order a run of 10 assembled prototypes of the final version. Once those are verified good to go, the buy will start.

Timeline for start is about 2 weeks from now

Awesome man, please remember to establish an Asian proxy  ;D

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #81 on: Tue, 07 August 2018, 09:47:36 »
I'm re-reading the thread with respect to case compatibility, and am wondering: why can't there be multiple USB pads and sets of mounting holes, the same way as there are multiple overlapped pads for switches?

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #82 on: Tue, 07 August 2018, 10:24:29 »
I'm re-reading the thread with respect to case compatibility, and am wondering: why can't there be multiple USB pads and sets of mounting holes, the same way as there are multiple overlapped pads for switches?

Mount holes aren't super important, as barely any cases this would even fit use them. I've based the current ones off of the b.87.

Multiple USB ports could definitely work, I might have to do that for the future. There are already pads to solder to as well, so a daughterboard can be easily used. I have to double check the pin spacing on the footprint and update the product description with that, iirc it's set up to use a variant of JST

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« Reply #83 on: Tue, 07 August 2018, 11:22:10 »
I'm re-reading the thread with respect to case compatibility, and am wondering: why can't there be multiple USB pads and sets of mounting holes, the same way as there are multiple overlapped pads for switches?

Mount holes aren't super important, as barely any cases this would even fit use them. I've based the current ones off of the b.87.

Multiple USB ports could definitely work, I might have to do that for the future. There are already pads to solder to as well, so a daughterboard can be easily used. I have to double check the pin spacing on the footprint and update the product description with that, iirc it's set up to use a variant of JST

Aaahh, footprints is the term I meant to use. Designing with footprints at all of the most common USB port locations and shipping with a loose port or two.
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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #84 on: Tue, 07 August 2018, 12:49:01 »
I'm re-reading the thread with respect to case compatibility, and am wondering: why can't there be multiple USB pads and sets of mounting holes, the same way as there are multiple overlapped pads for switches?

Mount holes aren't super important, as barely any cases this would even fit use them. I've based the current ones off of the b.87.

Multiple USB ports could definitely work, I might have to do that for the future. There are already pads to solder to as well, so a daughterboard can be easily used. I have to double check the pin spacing on the footprint and update the product description with that, iirc it's set up to use a variant of JST

Aaahh, footprints is the term I meant to use. Designing with footprints at all of the most common USB port locations and shipping with a loose port or two.

Might work, perhaps in the future

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #85 on: Mon, 13 August 2018, 23:18:51 »
production samples ordered

PCB confirmed to fit TX84, Mira and Keycult No.1
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« Reply #86 on: Tue, 14 August 2018, 01:17:33 »
nice. my mira is sitting out atm because of a faulty pcb. this can't come soon enough :)

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« Reply #87 on: Tue, 14 August 2018, 13:14:57 »
production samples ordered

PCB confirmed to fit TX84, Mira and Keycult No.1
Great news about the no. 1, planning on getting 2 pcbs.

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #88 on: Wed, 15 August 2018, 13:01:39 »
ETA for the prototypes to get to me is ~3 weeks

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« Reply #89 on: Thu, 16 August 2018, 04:51:30 »
ETA for the prototypes to get to me is ~3 weeks

A (kinda) noob question: How thick is the mini-USB port?

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #90 on: Thu, 16 August 2018, 16:41:41 »
in which direction?

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #91 on: Thu, 16 August 2018, 22:16:25 »
in which direction?

I'm planning for a aluminum plate, but the maximum thickness of its is only 1.5mm, so may I have to make a gap on top housing to fit the usb port?

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #92 on: Thu, 16 August 2018, 22:34:52 »
in which direction?

I'm planning for a aluminum plate, but the maximum thickness of its is only 1.5mm, so may I have to make a gap on top housing to fit the usb port?
Ahh yeah. That's a common thing on plates for A.87 PCBs.

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #93 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 02:57:14 »
Should have the production samples in the next 7-10 days. Will verify and open the GB then if they're good :D

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« Reply #94 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 03:07:28 »
Should have the production samples in the next 7-10 days. Will verify and open the GB then if they're good :D

Are you still planning to establish an Asian proxy?

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #95 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 03:08:21 »
Yes, a friend in indonesia will be proxying

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #96 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 03:28:56 »
Yes, a friend in indonesia will be proxying

Aww yiss! I still have to find a decent case for it though  :(

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #97 on: Tue, 28 August 2018, 09:39:46 »
Can't wait.
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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #98 on: Tue, 04 September 2018, 15:30:28 »


pic from the manufacturer. the 10 protos are being sent to me today/tomorrow.

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Re: [IC] H87a: QMK-powered TKL PCB
« Reply #99 on: Tue, 04 September 2018, 19:05:50 »
What are we thinking on turn around on these in a gb? I definitely need a few of these.