[IC]GMK Hydro (closed)

[ideus]

Is there support intended for original Cherry 1800s?

I see there's multiple spacebar sizes in the sketches, sure hope this set comes with support for 1800's and 6U spacebars.

It does support 1800 including the 6u space bar, it is shown in both the base alpha color and in the blue one and you should be aware that GMK mold for these bars fits the 1800's stems positions, while SP's does not.

Schweet, thanks for the heads up. 

Almost gave up looking for sets for the Cherry 1800s, because recent sets from GMK aren't designed with them in mind but for modern 1800 layouts with standard or 7U spacebars.

Right; fortunately, a few sensible group buy leaders of current ICs that will turn into buys soon, are offering the 6u option, you should be prepared to invest in them, because I think, most upcoming sets will support 6.25 and 7 units bars, only; also, you should be aware that Sprit has developed the wire in that size and he posted a picture of it today, I suppose the wire will be available soon. The original wires of this size from 1800 keyboards tend to present a bump in the middle that may clash with plates as most of the boards that carried it do not have plates, while the Sprit's is straight.

[Hydra04]

Awesome colors! Will most definitely be in for one...

Now if only we can get a Bulbasaur Set similar to this one... GMK Vine anyone?

The green set is next . I've done some drawing the novelties but these are more like sketches compared to what has happened for GMK Hydro, as I believe they are fundamental to the final design of the whole set.

Here are my plans:

1) GMK Hydro
2) GMK Vines
3) Possibly GMK Flames
3.5) Possibly GMK Lightning ?
4) Possibly DSA Hydro
5) Possibly DSA Vines.
6) Possibly DSA Flames.

I would do a red set, but I think there's this certain quality of red that people don't enjoy. Not that many RED sets have been made but many this can be one of the few!

I hope you all enjoy this plan and hope you all enjoy the designs that come from this.

But these are just plans, and if I can't get these things done, I'll make sure to pass of the designs to someone else to make sure they get done :^).

Great work and ideas!
The novelties are beautiful, can't wait to see the future ones
 

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FYI: I would sell you my house for a ghost-DSA set 

[duynguyenle]

Schweet, thanks for the heads up. 

Almost gave up looking for sets for the Cherry 1800s, because recent sets from GMK aren't designed with them in mind but for modern 1800 layouts with standard or 7U spacebars.

AFAIK, 1800 keyboards with 7u WKL arrangement is actually the old-school arrangement. Newer boards are the ones that comes with 6u spacebar and winkeys

It does support 1800 including the 6u space bar, it is shown in both the base alpha color and in the blue one and you should be aware that GMK mold for these bars fits the 1800's stems positions, while SP's does not.

Ideus, promoting 1800 layout since 2016 

[ideus]

Schweet, thanks for the heads up. 

Almost gave up looking for sets for the Cherry 1800s, because recent sets from GMK aren't designed with them in mind but for modern 1800 layouts with standard or 7U spacebars.

AFAIK, 1800 keyboards with 7u WKL arrangement is actually the old-school arrangement. Newer boards are the ones that comes with 6u spacebar and winkeys

It does support 1800 including the 6u space bar, it is shown in both the base alpha color and in the blue one and you should be aware that GMK mold for these bars fits the 1800's stems positions, while SP's does not.

Ideus, promoting 1800 layout since 2016 

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[gadzkun]

its confusing,
in 3D render we got black on blue modifier (esc, enter, arrow).
but in GMK render we got white on blue modifier.
which on is correct?

[ideus]

its confusing,
in 3D render we got black on blue modifier (esc, enter, arrow).
but in GMK render we got white on blue modifier.
which on is correct?

Good catch.

[jchan94]

its confusing,
in 3D render we got black on blue modifier (esc, enter, arrow).
but in GMK render we got white on blue modifier.
which on is correct?

Good catch.

GMK is correct.

[romevi]

its confusing,
in 3D render we got black on blue modifier (esc, enter, arrow).
but in GMK render we got white on blue modifier.
which on is correct?

Good catch.

Wait, are the legends on blue white or black?

Novelties will be N9 for contrast (for now)

And the other blue ones should be GR1.

What are your thoughts ?

Renders are off then haha. Nice catch.

I'm guessing the GMK renders are correct and the on-keyboard renders are wrong.


Edit:
Looks like jchan replied as I was typing.

[KHAANNN]

Is the icon-less Backspace a fluke?

Since other modifiers now have icons

[romevi]

Is the icon-less Backspace a fluke?

Since other modifiers now have icons

Yeah, he said that a few pages back, but no updated renders yet.
Let's hope for an F row in alternating colors, too!

[KHAANNN]

Ah, missed it, only went back one page :)

[gadzkun]

its confusing,
in 3D render we got black on blue modifier (esc, enter, arrow).
but in GMK render we got white on blue modifier.
which on is correct?

Good catch.

Wait, are the legends on blue white or black?

Novelties will be N9 for contrast (for now)

And the other blue ones should be GR1.

What are your thoughts ?

Renders are off then haha. Nice catch.

I'm guessing the GMK renders are correct and the on-keyboard renders are wrong.


Edit:
Looks like jchan replied as I was typing.

so its not black
not matched with novelties

[romevi]

its confusing,
in 3D render we got black on blue modifier (esc, enter, arrow).
but in GMK render we got white on blue modifier.
which on is correct?

Good catch.

Wait, are the legends on blue white or black?

Novelties will be N9 for contrast (for now)

And the other blue ones should be GR1.

What are your thoughts ?

Renders are off then haha. Nice catch.

I'm guessing the GMK renders are correct and the on-keyboard renders are wrong.


Edit:
Looks like jchan replied as I was typing.

so its not black
not matched with novelties

Correct. The blue novelties will have black "legends" and the blue mods will have white legends.
I don't mind. Makes them stand out more and now you have black sunglasses!

[shower_king]

White legend on blue modifiers match novelties better , i think.

[Giorgio]

Are there enough 1u R4 for this layout??

[jchan94]

Are there enough 1u R4 for this layout??

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For 1u r4, this set includes:

3x 1u blanks
2x 1u code
2x 1u windows key
1x 1u fn.

You can also get 6 more by getting novelty pack.

[jchan94]

White legend on blue modifiers match novelties better , i think.

We have switched to N9 on blue mods. I fundamentally believe that N9 is how the novelties should be designed.

its confusing,
in 3D render we got black on blue modifier (esc, enter, arrow).
but in GMK render we got white on blue modifier.
which on is correct?

Good catch.

Waiting for that fix on the backspace.

Wait, are the legends on blue white or black?

Novelties will be N9 for contrast (for now)

And the other blue ones should be GR1.

What are your thoughts ?

Renders are off then haha. Nice catch.

I'm guessing the GMK renders are correct and the on-keyboard renders are wrong.


Edit:
Looks like jchan replied as I was typing.

so its not black
not matched with novelties

So this decision is finalized: All Blue N5 keys will have N9 legend. This includes novelties.

[romevi]

Gah! No white F1-F4/F9-F12?! It looks totally off.
Like the black-on-blue mods, though.

[effectiveduck]

I'd prefer if the win95 legends were centered, otherwise looks good

I like the decision to use N9 on blue mods since people can use bluegaloo mods if they want white text.

[romevi]

And yes, Win95 logos!!!

I'd prefer if the win95 legends were centered, otherwise looks good

I like the decision to use N9 on blue mods since people can use bluegaloo mods if they want white text.

Agreed. They look...off. )

[WOMBO]

now that it matches the render I think it doesn't look too bad - especially since the gmk bluegaloo mods are a set already and matches. it's kind of a tough call but I guess we'll see in person; zambu's renders look pretty good to me though

[Giorgio]

Windows 1 logo, is the best logo 

[ideus]

Count me in!, I am a really careful consumer of keyboard stuff, the budget I set for the hobby is very tight, thus, I tend to be extremely picky to bite; but, this set has pretty much anything I need in a set. The only way I may not get in is if it goes through MD, for the simple reason they do not ship to the Country I live in now, which is very strange as we are just across the border.

Good job!

[WOMBO]

going through keyclack so you should be fine

[ideus]

going through keyclack so you should be fine

Awesome!

[ManicMatt1125]

When? Need to make sure I get funds in time

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[sony]

When? Need to make sure I get funds in time

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Soontm. Jchan said mid to late September.

[Vigrith]

When? Need to make sure I get funds in time

I believe Joseph has disclosed the buy should start mid/late September.

[jchan94]

When? Need to make sure I get funds in time

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I updated reddit, but please check the OP for the information near the bottom

[xondat]

Could've been my favourite set, but black text on the blue... Should be white!

Shame. Hyperfuse is still better than any other GMK set, in my opinion.

[jchan94]

Could've been my favourite set, but black text on the blue... Should be white!

Shame. Hyperfuse is still better than any other GMK set, in my opinion.

Sorry Xondat . The battle between uniformity vs the novelties was a tough one.

I fundamentally believe that I'd kill off the novelties by changing it to GR1.

Maybe if we need to change that up, R2 will have the N5/GR1 keys that you wish to see. Of course, you can always try to find a bluegaloo set to change it up :^).

[romevi]

Could've been my favourite set, but black text on the blue... Should be white!

Shame. Hyperfuse is still better than any other GMK set, in my opinion.

Sorry Xondat . The battle between uniformity vs the novelties was a tough one.

I fundamentally believe that I'd kill off the novelties by changing it to GR1.

Maybe if we need to change that up, R2 will have the N5/GR1 keys that you wish to see. Of course, you can always try to find a bluegaloo set to change it up :^).

Yeah, I was bummed at first, but the black text quickly grew on me. Plus, we can always supplement it with Bluegaloo, as mentioned.

[y2bd]

Yeah, I was bummed at first, but the black text quickly grew on me. Plus, we can always supplement it with Bluegaloo, as mentioned.

I wonder how different the alphas will look in person compared to TA (i.e. how much bluer). Because right now I'm using TA alphas and Bluegaloo mods, feel like I'm already 50% of the way to GMK Hydro.

[romevi]

Yeah, I was bummed at first, but the black text quickly grew on me. Plus, we can always supplement it with Bluegaloo, as mentioned.

I wonder how different the alphas will look in person compared to TA (i.e. how much bluer). Because right now I'm using TA alphas and Bluegaloo mods, feel like I'm already 50% of the way to GMK Hydro.

I had that. Wasn't too impressed with the combo. With the black mods, I'm sure Hydro will adhere to my preferences better.

[romevi]

Man, ever since I noticed that all-black F row it's the only thing I can see. Looks like you were trying to go for symmetry as you have the black pipe/slash and tilde keys as the main layout (with optional white keys included, thankfully), but that always bothered me when people put mod colors for text keys.
That said, looks like we can't do much to have a more traditional set as the black keys on top deter from that.

It's still my dream set, but I may have to think 'bout it.

Still glad you chose the Win95 logo and the splash of blue to break up the top row, but no matching alpha-colored F keys... ;_;

[heedpantsnow]

I'm supporting this set because someone finally is supporting the 1.25u Fn and Code keys.  Almost no sets do this.  Hats off to you sir.

So the Blue is the same as Bluegaloo.  Is the light gray the same as Hyperfuse?  I'm sorry if that has been addressed.  Thanks.

[jchan94]

I'm supporting this set because someone finally is supporting the 1.25u Fn and Code keys.  Almost no sets do this.  Hats off to you sir.

So the Blue is the same as Bluegaloo.  Is the light gray the same as Hyperfuse?  I'm sorry if that has been addressed.  Thanks.

Modifier Gray should be the same as Dolch Alphas Base (i believe).

[thatsmrdoctortoyou]

Man if I had a TKL I would be all over this set. Well, if I had a TKL aaaannd money I would be all over this set. Great work OP!

[jchan94]

Man if I had a TKL I would be all over this set. Well, if I had a TKL aaaannd money I would be all over this set. Great work OP!

Oh you're not getting it for that novatouch you're buying ?  :O

[pr0ximity]

Thank you based chan, back to grey legends. Was on the fence with the white ones, but I think I'm sold.

[KlarKuo]

Checked out the renders. I want this so bad

[Giorgio]

I was thinking of pairing it with the bluegaloo, but not anymore, since the legends are gray

And about the novelties, I'm not a fan of the theme 

Nice set anyway

[jchan94]

I was thinking of pairing it with the bluegaloo, but not anymore, since the legends are gray

And about the novelties, I'm not a fan of the theme 

Nice set anyway

Ah sorry about that mate. Will we still see your support for this set 

[Giorgio]

I was thinking of pairing it with the bluegaloo, but not anymore, since the legends are gray

And about the novelties, I'm not a fan of the theme 

Nice set anyway

Ah sorry about that mate. Will we still see your support for this set 

Yes of course I do support it!
With such a sudden decision, maybe a poll would have helped.

[ManicMatt1125]

The Alpha appear to be the same as Hyperfuse obviously with blue instead of purple. Are their color codes the same?

[jchan94]

The Alpha appear to be the same as Hyperfuse obviously with blue instead of purple. Are their color codes the same?

Everything set will always be compared to Hyperfuse

Hyperfuse uses 2M (IIRC) & this uses GR1.

Reference color codes:

[ManicMatt1125]

I think I actually like the gr1 better. The hyperfuse alphas look really white. Gr1 looked more white

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[jchan94]

I think I actually like the gr1 better. The hyperfuse alphas look really white. Gr1 looked more white

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Really? Gr1 looks like it has a little hint of gray in it ; maybe 8%?

Looking at this on a Macbook Pro

[ManicMatt1125]

I'm looking at it on my s6 edge plus. Let me check it out on my computer and see if it makes a difference

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[KHAANNN]

Just compared Macbook Pro to a Dell P2415Q - doesn't make a significant difference in toneage

Then looked at the Hyperfuse in-person, indeed the hyperfuse alphas look too white for my taste, but when you inspect them individually, they are not that white, but within the set, they look super-white, probably from the contrast

GR1 seemed ok. to me too, I guess, it might be futile to try to avoid whiteness for a set with white alphas

I think this set would look nice on 2M, GR1, CP, not sure how exactly 2M vs GR1 compares tho

TL;DR: I don't have a strong opinion on the topic :)