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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #350 on: Mon, 12 November 2018, 07:42:00 »
if I don't opt for a refresh are you saying that I cannot get a refund no matter what happens?

If it's needed, you would lose the PayPal fees.

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #351 on: Sat, 17 November 2018, 22:58:47 »
I filled out the form to "refresh" like a week ago.  Is this something that will happen in the future?  Is there further action I am supposed to take?

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #352 on: Sun, 18 November 2018, 03:05:50 »
I filled out the form to "refresh" like a week ago.  Is this something that will happen in the future?  Is there further action I am supposed to take?

I’ll be doing these today.

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #353 on: Sun, 18 November 2018, 20:29:43 »
So we got invoices now and you expect us to pay them again without you refunding us first?

So instead of 600 usd i would have 1200 usd stuck with you for no reason?

Is there some joke i don't get?

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #354 on: Sun, 18 November 2018, 20:36:45 »
So we got invoices now and you expect us to pay them again without you refunding us first?

So instead of 600 usd i would have 1200 usd stuck with you for no reason?

Is there some joke i don't get?

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I cannot refund and then wait for people to potentially pay unfortunately - I simply do not have the funds to do this. If you let me know when it's paid, then it decreases the time it takes for me to refund. Thanks.

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #355 on: Sun, 18 November 2018, 20:47:25 »
Now that I think about it why would we need a refund? Is the project not going through? I'll risk the paypal fees I guess, I didn't realize what the refresh was. I paid on May 23.
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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #356 on: Sun, 18 November 2018, 20:49:13 »
After 6 months PP does not provide any support to get refunds. You would be totally on your own. This is a way to ensure that you are able to get a refund even if Xondat disappears

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #357 on: Sun, 18 November 2018, 20:57:58 »
After 6 months PP does not provide any support to get refunds. You would be totally on your own. This is a way to ensure that you are able to get a refund even if Xondat disappears
I guess I'll risk $550 rather than $1100. He's done group buys before, I'll assume he won't disappear.
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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #358 on: Sun, 18 November 2018, 21:00:20 »
After 6 months PP does not provide any support to get refunds. You would be totally on your own. This is a way to ensure that you are able to get a refund even if Xondat disappears
I guess I'll risk $550 rather than $1100. He's done group buys before, I'll assume he won't disappear.
You do understand that he refunds your original invoice right?  I was refunded within 3 minutes

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #359 on: Sun, 18 November 2018, 21:03:47 »
Xondat is doing this to help offer protection for our money, not to hold double the amount hostage

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #360 on: Sun, 18 November 2018, 21:10:13 »
Now that I think about it why would we need a refund? Is the project not going through? I'll risk the paypal fees I guess, I didn't realize what the refresh was. I paid on May 23.

Main reason would be comfort. I'm not going anywhere, and I will deliver this, but I can totally understand someone wanting to be in the 6 month period rather than outside.

For my end, I cannot refund the fees after the 6 months is up, PayPal just eats it. So if I need to refund something on the original transaction, we aren't losing anything.

After 6 months PP does not provide any support to get refunds. You would be totally on your own. This is a way to ensure that you are able to get a refund even if Xondat disappears

I guess I'll risk $550 rather than $1100. He's done group buys before, I'll assume he won't disappear.

Sounds like there is some misunderstanding. I do refund the old one.

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #361 on: Sun, 18 November 2018, 21:15:32 »
Just a note, all refresh requests are been invoiced, so please let me know when they're paid so I can refund the original invoice ASAP. Will also PM. Thanks.

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #362 on: Sun, 18 November 2018, 21:16:31 »
Paid both 280 and 220 refresh

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #363 on: Sun, 18 November 2018, 21:17:03 »
Alright alright paid.
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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #364 on: Sun, 18 November 2018, 21:28:08 »
So, any extra extra polycarb plates?
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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #365 on: Mon, 19 November 2018, 01:37:24 »
Dammit, at current exchange rates I'm paying £20 more for the extra protection.....

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #366 on: Mon, 19 November 2018, 02:09:50 »
Dammit, at current exchange rates I'm paying £20 more for the extra protection.....

better than potentially losing hundreds into the group buy void
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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #367 on: Mon, 19 November 2018, 08:44:00 »
Dammit, at current exchange rates I'm paying £20 more for the extra protection.....

Only real downside unfortunately. I know a couple people outside of the US have USD wallets on PayPal and use that for purchasing, that way exchange rates don't screw them over.



Just woke up and will be catching up on paid invoices shortly.

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #368 on: Mon, 19 November 2018, 08:47:52 »
The only thing that burned me a bit is that PayPal refunded one of my invoices to an old CC that was closed in the interim.  That's a PP thing though, as they always refund to the original method of payment.  Hopefully the money will "bounce" back to my PP account in a few days.

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #369 on: Mon, 19 November 2018, 11:19:19 »
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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #370 on: Mon, 19 November 2018, 11:21:44 »
Up to date on refunds.

I won't reply to the PMs as there's quite a few, but please check that you have received it and LMK if you haven't for some reason.

Btw if you said no for a refresh, I won't be contacting you individually, you just won't receive an invoice.

Thanks.

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #371 on: Mon, 19 November 2018, 16:26:58 »
pm sent
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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #372 on: Mon, 19 November 2018, 20:41:54 »
so I entered the GB for the 220 because I wanted a custom numpad, but in the process, I've recently procured another custom numpad (and 1 that comes with a matching tkl), so I no longer want this one. If any one is interested please let me know, I'd be happy to transfer my slot to you. I've already spoken to Xondat about this, which is why I'm posting here in the thread. Please PM me here, first come first served basis.
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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #373 on: Mon, 19 November 2018, 23:35:35 »
so I entered the GB for the 220 because I wanted a custom numpad, but in the process, I've recently procured another custom numpad (and 1 that comes with a matching tkl), so I no longer want this one. If any one is interested please let me know, I'd be happy to transfer my slot to you. I've already spoken to Xondat about this, which is why I'm posting here in the thread. Please PM me here, first come first served basis.

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #374 on: Tue, 20 November 2018, 09:19:47 »
Sent a pm regarding something other than the refresh.

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #375 on: Thu, 22 November 2018, 11:22:35 »
hoping to be able to transfer my 280 slot...

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #376 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 03:12:14 »
Selling my spot: 280 WKL Blue Gray, 5mm Brass, 1x PCB, 2x 7U stabs

Slot still up for sale pm on geekhack or discord marre259#4816

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #377 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 11:50:00 »
Where are we on this in terms of production?

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #378 on: Sat, 08 December 2018, 20:52:26 »
Hello Paypal, refund pls
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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #379 on: Sun, 09 December 2018, 18:25:56 »
Where are we on this in terms of production?

I think the brass parts will finish first, followed by the polycarbonate parts, followed by the aluminum cases. Anodized parts last as it's the most important, they will be like this quality/finish wise:





Also the wrist rests arrived, so I will be sending them out shortly once I send shipping invoices and those are paid.







Sorry the pictures are rotated. Also the 280 pictured there isn't assembled, and is a very old prototype.

I think I have a couple left over but will sell them after.

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #380 on: Sun, 09 December 2018, 18:36:32 »
Thanks for the update, xondat!

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #381 on: Thu, 27 December 2018, 13:05:53 »
When do we expect these to ship?

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #383 on: Tue, 01 January 2019, 05:05:26 »
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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #384 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 12:54:50 »
I would like to sell my spot if anyone is interested.

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #385 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 13:02:47 »
When do we expect these to ship?

My bad for missing this..

In batches throughout Q2 is my best estimate.

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #386 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 18:19:03 »
When do we expect these to ship?

My bad for missing this..

In batches throughout Q2 is my best estimate.

Dang... wasn't original shipping estimate november 2018?

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #387 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 18:27:44 »
When do we expect these to ship?

My bad for missing this..

In batches throughout Q2 is my best estimate.

Dang... wasn't original shipping estimate november 2018?

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #388 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 18:29:07 »
When do we expect these to ship?

My bad for missing this..

In batches throughout Q2 is my best estimate.

Dang... wasn't original shipping estimate november 2018?

Eh something like that. I made the mistake with the timeline of course, and I didn't really foresee switching factories for higher quality (see T60, as those are the first shipped units from this one) - but it's something I'll stand by now & at the end.
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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #389 on: Mon, 28 January 2019, 14:43:37 »
wanted to bump this for more visibility. Anything new to report?

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #390 on: Mon, 28 January 2019, 15:01:54 »
wanted to bump this for more visibility. Anything new to report?

Nothing official, but shipping is probably starting late March by my estimates.

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #391 on: Mon, 28 January 2019, 15:05:50 »
what do you think is the biggest risk to the schedule (i.e anodization, quality inspection, etc..), it's clear that there is no firm timeline on this GB meaning you definitely see uncertainty with your vendor.

this will help us prepare for the chance of further slips

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #392 on: Mon, 04 February 2019, 11:29:13 »
Selling my 220 spot (dark grey + 5mm brass plate)

Pm me here or on Discord Genn#2343

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #393 on: Tue, 19 February 2019, 19:25:01 »
Anything to update on this?

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #394 on: Tue, 19 February 2019, 19:27:46 »
i hear the aluminum still needed to be mined outta the earth
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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #395 on: Wed, 20 February 2019, 10:29:17 »
Anything to update on this?

Factory just got back from CNY and we've been discussing X60 R results in full to get the best out of this :)

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #396 on: Mon, 25 February 2019, 08:08:41 »
Is there an update as to when wrist rests will be shipped?

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #397 on: Mon, 25 February 2019, 08:23:45 »
Is there an update as to when wrist rests will be shipped?

Will be ordering boxes for those after I ship out X60 R which is almost ready to be collected.

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #398 on: Mon, 25 February 2019, 12:05:15 »
Anything to update on this?

Factory just got back from CNY and we've been discussing X60 R results in full to get the best out of this :)

How far are they along, did they CNC the cases or did they serialize production and basically that means X60R will need to be fully complete before 280 starts?

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Re: [GB] Noxary 280 & 220 (Production)
« Reply #399 on: Mon, 25 February 2019, 12:14:49 »
Communication sucks so hard here....

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