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Offline thicthacthok

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[IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« on: Mon, 22 January 2024, 09:10:05 »
Hello,

I've always wanted to make an endgame 60% keyboard for myself using features and attributes that I enjoyed from other keyboards over the 3 or so years I've been in the keyboard hobby. Some keyboards that come to mind are the OTD 356 mini, SingaKBD Unikorn and the Geonworks' F1-8X. Horangi (ho-rang-e) means tiger in Korean and it's one of my favourite animals.

Instead of relying on renders, I've decided to go ahead and prototype the keyboards before posting an Interest Check as I was uncomfortable posting something that was still incomplete. I'm now confident enough in the design, sound and typing experience to post an IC on Geekhack.

The 3 keyboards were the inspiration behind the internals of the keyboard. It uses the Unikorn, 4 top and 4 bottom mounting posts, combined with the gummy o-ring mounting and plate shape from the 356 Mini and finished off with F1-8X inspired viton o-rings strips on the top housing.

The aesthetics of the keyboard were inspired from the GOK 7v for the weight, the Mode Sonnet for the side profile and the Geonworks Frog for the Top Casing.

Thank you also to Gok, for teaching me how to loft in Fusion 360.


Keyboard Details

  • AL6063 Aluminium Top and Bottom Housing
  • Copper Sandblasted Internal and External Weight
  • AL5052 Plate Anodized Red
  • CEM3 1.6mm Coreless PCB with Red Silkscreen by Jels
  • Fly Daugtherboard with Molex
  • 9 Degree Typing Angle
  • 19.5mm Front Height
  • Viton Gummy O-Ring Mounting + Viton O-Ring Strips on the top housing
  • WK, WKL, 6U HHKB Layouts
  • 2.2kg built


Prototype 1

Dark Brown Anodized
Copper Weights
Built with Cherry Hyperglide Blacks on an Aluminium Half Plate
Viton Gummy O-Ring

Compression for this prototype was approximately .5mm against the gummy o-ring.

https://clips.twitch.tv/InventiveIncredulousDillOMGScoots-5UmziLTTZ9EgBQrb

Prototype 1 had very tight molex cable tolerances and the weight would not screw to the case unless the cable was positioned in a certain way.
O-Rings on the top housing were not friction fit and would fall out.


Prototype 1.5

Beige Powder Coated
Brass Weights
Built with the new Cherry Ergo Clears on a Polycarbonate Plate
50a Silicone Gummy O-Ring

Compression for this prototype was not changed

https://clips.twitch.tv/UnusualClearCucumberSpicyBoy-V2DNMjALiUs3bnpA

Prototype 1.5 had the JST channel fixed as well as the O-Ring tolerances in the top housing fixed.
I also experimented with the Unikorn JST/molex position instead of the Hiney position.
There were no significant changes to the internals of the keyboard to consider it a 2.0 version of the prototype.

Compression for this prototype was not changed


Prototype 2

Dark Polycarbonate
Stainless Steel Weights
Built with banana splits on an Aluminium Half Plate
Viton Gummy O-Ring

Compression for this prototype was not changed


Prototyping the keyboard in PC really allowed me to see the extremely tight tolerances on the internals.
Since the keyboard only uses 4 screws to close the top and bottom housing, there was excessive bulging on the middle of the keyboard due to the stiffness of the Viton Gummy O-Ring and the compression inside the case.
This prototype had the issue solved by notching the plate but it was not a solution I could utilise for the group buy due to the use of plastic plates.


Prototype 3

Sandblasted Stainless Steel
Copper Weights
Built with New Cherry Nixies on a Polypropylene Plate
Viton Gummy O-Ring

Compression for this prototype was almost completely eliminated due to the stiffness of the Viton O-Ring

https://clips.twitch.tv/EntertainingPhilanthropicMonkeyDuDudu-lwUee_jIoRHa32B7

Using the information gathered from Prototype 2, the internals of the keyboard were changed significantly to allow for almost no compression in the internals.
I also found that having minimal compression had better acoustic properties with the viton material for the O-Rings

Please take the sound tests as a grain of salt. Actual acoustics properties of the keyboard will changed based on many different variables.


Prototype Photos

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GB Date

Around the 2nd or 3rd week of May

Estimated Price

  • The estimated price is around $450USD at a 100 unit soft cap.

Vendors

OCE - Cafege
KR & NA - KLC
EU - TBA
PH - Keyboom
MY & SG - TBA
TW - Masjewerks

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« Last Edit: Tue, 19 March 2024, 11:55:08 by thicthacthok »

Offline thicthacthok

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 22 January 2024, 09:10:55 »
Reserved

Offline beejay

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 22 January 2024, 09:19:38 »
Gib horangi ya dog glwic

Offline mul7i

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 22 January 2024, 09:35:53 »
yum yum that is nice  ;D

Offline sirieous

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 22 January 2024, 11:45:38 »
very epic cant wait

Offline Moods

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 22 January 2024, 15:38:42 »
I've typed on a few of these and they are very very nice! I will be keeping a very close eye on this. Full Stainless Steel would be insta-cop. GLWIC <3

Offline warmthoughts

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 22 January 2024, 17:57:53 »
I have witnessed your unparalleled attention to detail over the last 3 years of TTT. Horangi is so so good. Proud of you! And ty for true HHKB king.

Offline dr0pbear

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 22 January 2024, 19:44:59 »
Awesome work TTT, having seen the prototypes this is a banging board! GLWIC

Offline irithyll

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 22 January 2024, 22:02:50 »
Seems like an amazing project

Offline involuntarysoul

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 23 January 2024, 04:25:34 »
wish the side bezel is thinner

Offline LMarci

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 23 January 2024, 09:34:25 »
I like this project a lot, but I wish the weight engraving design was a little more interesting.

Offline Zestrion

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 23 January 2024, 09:56:56 »
im buying your entire stock, looks good

Offline TooCool

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 23 January 2024, 20:14:24 »
Is there any special reasoning behind your choice of AL6062 for the case and AL5052 for the plate?

Offline thicthacthok

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 24 January 2024, 19:22:09 »
Is there any special reasoning behind your choice of AL6062 for the case and AL5052 for the plate?

No special reasoning, I just wanted to try different materials. Group buy will be 6063 for the case.

Offline clannadkhang

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 27 January 2024, 01:00:25 »
Back engraving too simple for me

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 31 January 2024, 00:40:34 »
Echoing on the back engraving, I wish it were more "balanced". The drawing of the tiger looks nice on its own, but it doesn't look "centered" on the weight to my eyes - I know it probably is centered, but still...

Offline WholeScope

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 31 January 2024, 02:06:24 »
Very cool board. Definitely will pick one up when GB drops

Are the weights for the GB run determined to be copper? Or will we be able to choose SS, Brass, Copper etc?

Offline thicthacthok

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 28 April 2024, 02:22:35 »
Very cool board. Definitely will pick one up when GB drops

Are the weights for the GB run determined to be copper? Or will we be able to choose SS, Brass, Copper etc?

Weights will most likely be Copper only

Offline thicthacthok

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 28 April 2024, 02:23:44 »
I've ordered another prototype to better balance out the back weight and test out a new internal weight design.

Will probably receive it around May and push the GB a little back toward the end of May/mid June.
« Last Edit: Mon, 29 April 2024, 01:31:03 by thicthacthok »

Offline crowcrowcrow

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 28 April 2024, 15:36:26 »
this look amaazing wow its sounds so good too. full SS would be fire  :eek:

Offline save_me

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Re: [IC] Horangi60 60% Keyboard
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 28 April 2024, 18:59:34 »
Will be entering the GB, looks wonderful