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Does anyone else use high DPI?
« on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 23:46:26 »
Kinda continuing my "discussion" with jwaz over at the post your topper thread.

I'm really curious because every time someone finds out that I use 5700 DPI (the max setting on my G9x) they think I'm insane. I went from 1.8k on the Razer Salmosa and it was way too slow. Then to the Abyssus with 3.6k, which eventually also felt too slow so I got a G9x. Started off at 3.6k initially, and then worked up to 4k, ,and finally jumping to the max of 5.7k. I have no problems at all with my mouse accuracy or controlling it, whether I'm casually browsing, playing StarCraft, Dota, or when I'm training myself in Osu. No acceleration and 1:1 of course, although the G9x has some built in acceleration that I can feel. Resolution is 2 monitors with 1080x1920 res.

Is it really that weird? I can't even begin to imagine how painful it would be for me to go down to 1800s and so, but apparently that's what a lot of people use. Do I just have precise control over my wrist? I guess I should also mention that I hold my mice "weird".

Anyone else use relatively "high" DPI settings?

Example of me being bad at osu, pay attention to the mouse camera movements

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 23:49:00 »
tried using 3500 dpi+low in game sens for tf2 but it never felt as good as 800dpi+medium in game sens

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 00:44:43 »
I can't do anything more than 800 dpi. What you describe seems absolutely insane to me.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 00:56:57 »
I stay at 3000 DPI on my Steelseries Sensei and I find it to be a good balance between speed and precision. I've gone up to the 5000s before for the sake of curiosity, and it's usable, but not very precise (for me). I could probably work my way up there if I took it in small increments, but I don't really see a need to when I'm comfortable where I am.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 01:05:07 »
Generally stick to 3200k for day to day use, and only bump it to 5k for games with insufferably slow 3d cameras that for whatever reason can't be adequately adjusted in some sort of options menu. I also occasionally click down to 2400k for sniping and finer Photoshop stuffs. Never saw any reason to go higher than 5k or lower than 800 (unless my mom's visiting and insists I bump my dpi to 400 so she can check her email.)

 Generally I only use the dpi settings in the mouse software and don't fiddle with in-game settings.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 01:26:43 »
Haha, atm I'm using 600 dpi with a 21 inch monitor at 1600x900; even lower than what most people use :S
I just surf and play LoL, so 600 dpi is better in terms of accuracy for me, as I'm not doing macro-level actions,like in SC

I think 5700 dpi is fine if you're using multiple monitors; it'd only be crazy if you had only one :S

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 01:30:21 »
I used to do what you're describing so I have some perspective.
As somebody's who's done this I can tell you're holding your mouse "weird" because you can't control your mouse normally at the highest dpi and you're compensating for that.
Although you probably prefer high DPI anyways, your mousepad probably isn't the best at tracking either which might be why you're cranking your DPI up to such an extreme.

There's plenty of reasons why you shouldn't be using your mouse at such an extreme dpi.
You can probably start an entire thread on this.
One of reasons is that you're not actually achieving 1:1 in terms of precision.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 01:36:37 »
it's the other way around, it's because I hold it weird that I can't use low dpi.. and that's more of a comfort thing, I relax my hand atop of my mouse rather than grip it with fingers. thus I control purely with wrist movement. if I do grip with fingers I get even more accuracy, I'm required to do so when playing osu or something.

it's really uncomfortable to have to move my entire arm or hand and tiresome when doing **** like sc2 or osu. for fps games I understand low sensitivity, that and photos hop is when I bump down.

as for my mouse pad idk, and I'm already not achieving true 1:1 cuz of the g9x sensor. I've used a variety of mouse pads borrowing from friends at Lans and what not

Higher dpi more comfortable and accurate for me, there's absolutely no way I can do what I do with anything less than 3.6k.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 01:56:35 »
I've seen the video and I totally understand the theory behind it. My problem is wtf am I supposed to do if I almost physically can't use a low dpi, what is the highest possible dpi I can use without issues like this occurring? I've tried switching back to 3.6k as that seems to be the Golden number I'm looking for but it feels so impractical and I keep moving my cursor too short of where it needs to be often times and really ****s me over in games
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 02:04:18 »
Hmmm in that case, I guess you might benefit from aftermarket mouse feet that are speed orientated.
Get a hard pad or metal pad. Less friction, significantly faster glide so your cursor won't stop short anymore.


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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 02:15:13 »
hm i've been at 1800 on my abyssus and just bumped it up to 3500. not bad... but i have 2 big monitors at work so its nice to zoom around them without picking up my mouse.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 02:21:18 »
Wow 5,7k for osu is insane :o
I use 1000 dpi but a tablet for osu though. 

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 04:16:43 »
Yes, It is that weird! i don't understand how anybody can use anything over 2k! I use 450 dpi with 6/11 windows mouse settings with a single 1920x1080 24" screen and it is still very fast for me. I'm even looking for a mouse with lower then 450 becaue it is a little to fast for me. That is so insane! :eek:

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 04:24:16 »
It made me slip yeah :)) too high 5000++
i just use 500dpi on 14"(1366x768)
1000dpi on 14" quite fast to me may hand/arm,mousepad,mice & monitor determine also.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 04:44:43 »
I don't think I actually own a mouse that would be capable of anything over 2k cpi, except jittery 4k cpi on the savu. I tried some 2.5k or 3.5k cpi once or twice and it wasn't bad, but there don't appear to be any quality mice with such sensors and my preferred shape around.

I use mice only to play RTS @ 1280×1024 window. Usually at something around 1600 cpi, sometimes more (2k cpi), sometimes less (down to 800 cpi).
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 05:12:43 »
DPI is just one part of the equation, and by itself does not describe sensitivity.

In your operating system, it is affected by your windows settings. In games, it is affected by both windows settings and ingame sensitivity settings. It is very possible to have a high DPI, but low sensitivity and vice versa depending on the settings that you use. Often people do this when the sensor of their mouse performs better at a certain level of DPI (for example, someone with low sensitivity who chooses to use his mouse's native 1800 DPI setting). Though it should be pointed out that changing windows sensitivity setting affects tracking quality.

That said, sensitivity is one of those things where if you get used to a particular sensitivity, changing drastically from that sensitivity will always feel awkward. Personally I think that people should try out different settings, and not let themselves be demotivated by the initial feeling of awkwardness that they will certainly experience. In the OS , use whatever you find comfortable, but in some genre of games, there are unique benefits of using a lower DPI. One reason why the average FPS player for example can't hit the broad side of a barn is because they use a level of sensitivity that is way beyond what they are able to control accurately. The average player could improve his aim in a matter of days if he would choose a very low sensitivity, force himself to play with that setting for an hour, then gradually increase his sensitivity based on preference, play for one hour again, and repeat that process until satisfied. By calibrating his sensitivity this way, and allowing himself to get used to a lower sensitivity, the sensitivity he will end up with is likely to be lower than the one he was initially using. * Obv This does not go for everyone
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 05:20:29 »
1600DPI is the sweet spot for me. It's interesting to see the wide range of DPI's used here. I just can't be as accurate as I want to be with higher DPI, although if the sensor is really good I could probably get used to maximum 3200.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 06:19:28 »
i think sensitivity preference has a lot to do with physical orientation to the device.

I feel ~3200 is my sweet spot, but i'm also a tip gripper with a sub-optimal desk/chair setup, which results in a low-motion wrist-anchor control style being the most comfortable for me. I can't do palm or claw, because it would require my surface to be lower, which doesn't work due to fixed-position chair arms... and i feel my chair is already too high, because i like a firm flat foot grip of the floor, which i can't currently do, because then the desk surface is too much higher than the chair, which ends up putting all kinds of strain on various points.

If i could lower my chair to optimal height, and then also adjust my surface to the optimal spacial relation to that chair position, THEN i would feel comfortable with a palm or claw grip, and low sense high motion control style, since i wouldn't have to anchor anymore, in order to remain comfortable.

But for now, there's just no way to make a high motion control style work, because it would require bizarre arm positioning. Plus, i only have a 1920x1080 24" anyway. 3200dpi works pretty well for being fast enough for macro, slow enough for micro (though i've noticed micro is just irritating no matter what, with my g700... mostly because the sensor is at the front, and i tip grip...)
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 06:31:52 »
I run my G700s at 8200 DPI all the time.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:35:57 »
DPI is just one part of the equation, and by itself does not describe sensitivity.

In your operating system, it is affected by your windows settings. In games, it is affected by both windows settings and ingame sensitivity settings. It is very possible to have a high DPI, but low sensitivity and vice versa depending on the settings that you use. Often people do this when the sensor of their mouse performs better at a certain level of DPI (for example, someone with low sensitivity who chooses to use his mouse's native 1800 DPI setting). Though it should be pointed out that changing windows sensitivity setting affects tracking quality.

That said, sensitivity is one of those things where if you get used to a particular sensitivity, changing drastically from that sensitivity will always feel awkward. Personally I think that people should try out different settings, and not let themselves be demotivated by the initial feeling of awkwardness that they will certainly experience. In the OS , use whatever you find comfortable, but in some genre of games, there are unique benefits of using a lower DPI. One reason why the average FPS player for example can't hit the broad side of a barn is because they use a level of sensitivity that is way beyond what they are able to control accurately. The average player could improve his aim in a matter of days if he would choose a very low sensitivity, force himself to play with that setting for an hour, then gradually increase his sensitivity based on preference, play for one hour again, and repeat that process until satisfied. By calibrating his sensitivity this way, and allowing himself to get used to a lower sensitivity, the sensitivity he will end up with is likely to be lower than the one he was initially using. * Obv This does not go for everyone

It's the opposite for me, I kept training myself to go up because I wasn't happy with how slow even 3.6k is. My windows setting is 6/11 and I don't touch in game settings unless it's FPS. I've tried and the lowest I can go back down to is 3.6k albeit a little uncomfortable but usable.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:41:44 »
I don't really use high dpi, 1800 atm. Not all that high, but higher than the 450-900 range I was using before. Although I can understand why some people prefer higher, and if I wanted to I could probably adapt to much higher dpi.

However, I do have a problem with high sens in fps games, as I feel I don't get the fine control I need to properly kill virtual dudes.

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« Reply #24 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 09:15:46 »
I used to run my old razer mouse at its max dpi (i'm sure it was in the 5000's lie Sifo). Switching to Linux the OS acceleration was lowered a bit and I have now gotten used to that. I think its like a two inch swipe to go across my monitors - I never have to pick up my mouse.

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« Reply #25 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 09:39:50 »
I actually started around 1600 or 1800 depending on the mouse. Then I dropped down to around 800 for more accuracy. I now use the lowest settings on most mice (e.g., 400 on Mico or Kinzu, 450 on AM-FG or EC1/EC2 eVo CL). 5700 is insanely fast to me. I never ever liked going over 2000.

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« Reply #26 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 10:21:21 »
Then I dropped down to around 800 for more accuracy. I now use the lowest settings on most mice (e.g., 400 on Mico or Kinzu, 450 on AM-FG or EC1/EC2 eVo CL).

I don't think I could ever use 400 dpi, it would take like 2 feet of movement forceing me to pick up my mouse to get across my multiple monitors.

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« Reply #27 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 18:15:54 »

Short video of me playing osu with my mouse. As you can see, I prefer absolute minimal hand movement... I'm lazy like that. All mistakes were generally either because I suck at this game, or because I have 0 sense of rhythm even though I'm a rhythm guitarist and musician. Cut it short to save myself the embarassment ^_^ in game sensitivity hasn't been touched.
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« Reply #28 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 19:01:54 »
I have played fps games over the years, and have always used 450-600 dpi only, and just changed to 1.6k dpi last year due to dota 2.

So yeah.. I think it's a bit crazy to have 5.8k, but then again it's your own preference and the game you play.

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« Reply #29 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 19:03:23 »
When I play FPS I lower it way the heck down, but sc2/dota still 5.7k ;\ and it's the rate I just casually browse **** at too.
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« Reply #30 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 21:08:46 »
I'm running at 1440p on my monitor and generally have my mouse set at 2520dpi for gaming and drop to 1620 dpi in normal use or when sniping.  Sometimes I go a little lower or a little higher.  800 is too low for 1440p and 5040 dpi, the max my mouse can do, would be insane and unwieldy.

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« Reply #31 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 21:50:09 »
Yeaaaaaah.. tried going down to 5k today. Felt too sluggish :X
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« Reply #32 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 22:28:59 »

Short video of me playing osu with my mouse. As you can see, I prefer absolute minimal hand movement... I'm lazy like that. All mistakes were generally either because I suck at this game, or because I have 0 sense of rhythm even though I'm a rhythm guitarist and musician. Cut it short to save myself the embarassment ^_^ in game sensitivity hasn't been touched.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tao85QrhdYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tao85QrhdY#t=430

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« Reply #33 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 22:33:42 »
i used 800dpi(cheapo mouse) to 1200dpi(another cheapo) to 1600dpi(gigabyte something) to 2000dpi(A4tech G11-570HX) and finally 3500dpi(RAT3) mouse and for me anything less than 3000dpi is freaking slow on my 22" FHD monitor. even for lower resolution on my lappie, im using zalman ZM-500WL 3000DPI and ditch my a4tech cause i feel its slow as well :cool:

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« Reply #34 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 22:34:53 »

Short video of me playing osu with my mouse. As you can see, I prefer absolute minimal hand movement... I'm lazy like that. All mistakes were generally either because I suck at this game, or because I have 0 sense of rhythm even though I'm a rhythm guitarist and musician. Cut it short to save myself the embarassment ^_^ in game sensitivity hasn't been touched.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tao85QrhdYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tao85QrhdY#t=430

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« Reply #35 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 22:38:38 »
I don't use a tablet..

I know you don't. A friend showed me that video and my gaw dropped so I had to show the rest of the osu playing world. Even with a tablet some of those rhythms are just insane.

I can barely pull of an A on a song. I have no idea how I would get a SS (100%) on a song with that many notes that fast.

I digress. Back on topic everyone :)

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« Reply #36 on: Wed, 26 March 2014, 06:04:58 »
I used 9600 dpi before, now i use 6400 (max on new mouse). 29" 2560x1080 monitor.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 26 March 2014, 06:12:06 »
It's not just the DPI though, it's the pointer movement speed too in combination.  I can have the pointer moving at about the same speed on the lowest DPI + max pointer speed and highest DPI + minimum pointer speed (of course don't want to go over 6/11 in Windows equivalent).  I do find that high DPI generally gives better precision in terms of line smoothness when drawing, but I turn pointer speed way down, or it just zooms across my dual monitor in wild zigzags.  My current mouse is at max DPI (16400 setting lol...) and low pointer speed with acceleration disabled.  Been playing with it for a long time now figuring out the most comfortable and realistic settings, and this one is one of my favorites.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 26 March 2014, 10:29:33 »
3 30" Dell monitors, total screen real estate is 7680x1600

I'm at 800dpi @ 125hz (I'm probably the only person that things 125hz is more accurate than 500/1k), Windows mouse sens is mid-point, but I do use Windows acceleration.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 26 March 2014, 12:56:50 »
windows settings at 6 (middle) so you dont get pixel skipping and then turn down the mouse as far as you can for the optimal use of your mouse.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:20:51 »
windows settings at 6 (middle) so you dont get pixel skipping and then turn down the mouse as far as you can for the optimal use of your mouse.

But then I actually have to move my hand, why would I do that ;(
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:59:57 »
I think the point is that if you care more about keeping your hand still than absolute accuracy, then you wouldn't do that.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 26 March 2014, 17:08:33 »
I think the point is that if you care more about keeping your hand still than absolute accuracy, then you wouldn't do that.

But I don't feel like I'm missing out on any accuracy with my settings as opposed to lower sensitivity o_o
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 26 March 2014, 17:11:22 »
I think it's fine to use whatever settings you want as long as you are comfortable with it. No need to change anything. That's why so many mice are so customizable down to the individual pixel.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 26 March 2014, 17:36:21 »
I think it's fine to use whatever settings you want as long as you are comfortable with it. No need to change anything. That's why so many mice are so customizable down to the individual pixel.
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Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 27 March 2014, 01:20:36 »

But I don't feel like I'm missing out on any accuracy with my settings as opposed to lower sensitivity o_o

I meant more about objective, quantifiable accuracy (measurable accel, pixel skipping, etc) as opposed to feel.

I say just go for whatever feels best.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 02 April 2014, 19:04:40 »
how do some of you guys even use 3200 dpi, let alone 6400/8200 dpi?! Do you crank down windows sens to the first notch? Or do you have 4k displays? I personally would be frustrated if I had to concentrate on my precise small mouse movement to hit the x and close a tab  :p

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 02 April 2014, 19:05:33 »
how do some of you guys even use 3200 dpi, let alone 6400/8200 dpi?! Do you crank down windows sens to the first notch? Or do you have 4k displays? I personally would be frustrated if I had to concentrate on my precise small mouse movement to hit the x and close a tab  :p

I'm on 1080, 6/11

It honestly doesn't take any concentration to hit x to close a tab just comes naturally. Takes more concentration if it's on slow dpi :P
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 02 April 2014, 19:12:13 »
how do some of you guys even use 3200 dpi, let alone 6400/8200 dpi?! Do you crank down windows sens to the first notch? Or do you have 4k displays? I personally would be frustrated if I had to concentrate on my precise small mouse movement to hit the x and close a tab  :p

I'm on 1080, 6/11

It honestly doesn't take any concentration to hit x to close a tab just comes naturally. Takes more concentration if it's on slow dpi :P

yea, 1080 is slightly more manageable for me, haha. Maybe I'm just too used to low sens in CS, that anything higher I will feel like I am struggling to hit x to close tab.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 02 April 2014, 19:20:34 »
how do some of you guys even use 3200 dpi, let alone 6400/8200 dpi?! Do you crank down windows sens to the first notch? Or do you have 4k displays? I personally would be frustrated if I had to concentrate on my precise small mouse movement to hit the x and close a tab  :p

low motion high sensitivity control style, wrist-anchored tip-grip. Gentle nuance versus... well, not.

Your ergonomics (or lack thereof) play a crucial role in determining which control style feels most comfortable, as does your body (though that could arguably be included in "ergonomics").

My own setup includes too much elevation of both the desk and chair, and its arms... which then makes whole-arm control styles very uncomfortable (aka high motion  low sensitivity, non-anchored, palm/claw grip). When you don't have to move your entire arm, or worse, moving your whole arm is uncomfortable or even painful... low motion, high sensitivity is better, since it produces less strain (i know some of you high motion low sense champions will argue, but it's all subjective, and based on how your body relates to your setup... not saying one is "better," just saying it's subjective, and certain setups are more/less compatible with one style, as opposed to the other).

Also, since i've spent many years of my life playing guitar, micro-motions of my right hand are already pretty well tuned. If you can alternate pick guitar strings, you can use low motion high sensitivity mouse control.

But yeah, sometimes it's irritating doing highly precise motions... although in my case, it's worse with a high motion low sensitivity approach, mostly due to a surface i can't lower, and a chair that's already too high.

And i leave windows mouse setting in the middle (which ever is allegedly 1:1).
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 02 April 2014, 19:22:59 »
Also, since i've spent many years of my life playing guitar, micro-motions of my right hand are already pretty well tuned. If you can alternate pick guitar strings, you can use low motion high sensitivity mouse control.

Ohhhhhh this might explain why I like high sensitivity too since I played guitar 7~ years ish
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 03 April 2014, 14:00:00 »
I generally run about 3000-4000 dpi, I find it more comfortable. Anything more than that and I sometimes overshoot last hits; anything less and it's just too sluggish.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 03 April 2014, 14:16:55 »
If you don't like moving your arm you might want to look into trackballs, your video looks somewhat similar to my trackball usage - except i use my fingers for control instead of the wrist. That might even appeal to your guitar fingers even more!

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 03 April 2014, 14:54:34 »
If you don't like moving your arm you might want to look into trackballs, your video looks somewhat similar to my trackball usage - except i use my fingers for control instead of the wrist. That might even appeal to your guitar fingers even more!


I've actually been leaning that direction for a while now... just haven't embarked in that journey yet, and currently available trackball options leave a bit to be desired.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 03 April 2014, 21:46:22 »
I use no more than 1200 dpi on 1920x1080. I'm just too used to using slower mice.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 04 April 2014, 02:17:34 »
On my Logitech G600, I use 8200 DPI

On my Logitech G602, I use 2500 DPI

Both are the mouse's max DPI

Either way, I can use any DPI, I prefer higher as well for minimal wrist / hand movement

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 10 April 2014, 14:03:56 »
I can't do anything more than 800 dpi. What you describe seems absolutely insane to me.

Same here. My mx510 has just the right dpi for me. Precision isn't really my thing which makes high dpi hopeless for me.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 10 April 2014, 15:09:10 »
I can't do anything more than 800 dpi. What you describe seems absolutely insane to me.

Same here. My mx510 has just the right dpi for me. Precision isn't really my thing which makes high dpi hopeless for me.

Everybody's body is capable of different levels of mouse control. Through practice, willingness, and physical capability, there is a DPI that is good for you.

If you decided that your hand isn't capable of high precision, high DPI, that's fine.

There's no one size fits all.

As long as there is a DPI solution that can fit every scenario, there is no such thing as too high DPI, since you can adjust it to your liking.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #58 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 03:22:41 »
I use 3kish on the desktop, and 1.8k on sc2, moba games, and 450/400 on fps games
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #59 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 03:33:44 »
If 1150dpi could be considered 'relatively high' then yes. Used to use 400dpi, but the added sensitivity is useful. Anything more is a bit too jerky.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #60 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 04:12:01 »
On a 30 incher you need something around 3600dpi minimum.  Though these days I'm getting lazy and will sit on 5200dpi just so the cursor can fly around everywhere when needed.

Mostly using the settings within normal web page browsing and shopping, that's all.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #61 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 05:03:15 »
On a 30 incher you need something around 3600dpi minimum.  Though these days I'm getting lazy and will sit on 5200dpi just so the cursor can fly around everywhere when needed.

Mostly using the settings within normal web page browsing and shopping, that's all.


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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #62 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 10:32:11 »

On a 30 incher you need something around 3600dpi minimum.  Though these days I'm getting lazy and will sit on 5200dpi just so the cursor can fly around everywhere when needed.

Mostly using the settings within normal web page browsing and shopping, that's all.

I have 3 30 inch monitors, and run at 450dpi/125hz on my EC1 CL

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #63 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 18:52:29 »
I have 3 30 inch monitors, and run at 450dpi/125hz on my EC1 CL

Just out of interest, how big is your mouse pad?

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« Reply #64 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 00:23:26 »
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #65 on: Tue, 22 July 2014, 18:31:58 »
Now this got me thinking. That's what they mean with 4K monitors.. you need at least 4000 dpi to comfortably move around :p

But really.. I only have a 24" (1920 x 1200) and I use 3400 dpi on my g400s at 1000hz polling interval rate and it is still too slow sometimes.

What about those 4k screens? I mean, they double the pixels. Wouldn't you need like 6k+ dpi to move around comfortably on those screens?
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #66 on: Tue, 22 July 2014, 22:30:30 »
That is a good point. I never thought about monitor and mouse dpi being related.

All I know is that I have a horizontal resolution of 5040px, so I have to have a fairly high dpi in order to be able to move around comfortably. I don't know how people can live while having to use huge strokes and then repeatedly pick up their mouse because they hit the side of their mousepad.

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« Reply #67 on: Wed, 23 July 2014, 02:19:39 »
I use 1080×1920+1600×1200 with a fingertip-grip mouse set to ~1000 cpi or even less (~500 cpi very often) these days, because I've figured it's quite precise, the mouse glides pretty fast on the hard mousepad and I tend to lift the mouse all the time anyway, even with high sensitivity.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #68 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 11:57:07 »
I use 2500 dpi. Is that considered high?

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #69 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 11:58:39 »
I use 1600 at 1080p. My best friend uses 3900 at 1080p...I have no idea how he does anything accurately in any FPS we play, but he gets by.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 12:40:41 »

On a 30 incher you need something around 3600dpi minimum.  Though these days I'm getting lazy and will sit on 5200dpi just so the cursor can fly around everywhere when needed.

Mostly using the settings within normal web page browsing and shopping, that's all.

I have 3 30 inch monitors, and run at 450dpi/125hz on my EC1 CL

I am wondering, I am also thinking about getting myself 2-3 30"-ers. But is it usable/ Out of curiosity, could you post a pic so that I could see how such a massive setup looks?
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #71 on: Tue, 29 July 2014, 07:17:11 »
I used 1000 dpi for a looooong time.
Switched to 1600 dpi used that for a while too.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #72 on: Tue, 12 August 2014, 16:29:32 »
You must be a Zerg or Protoss.
I'm an ex high Dpi user. I switched after logically realizing how inacurate and hard i was making things for me, i still long for the comfort of fingertiping the **** out of 3k+ but.. it's really not worth it. I wonder how much i tripped myself up for always increasing my dpi as much as i could.

I have not played FPS competitively in a long while, but i can still do headshots in games like Ut3 with 2.5k, problem is.. when youre having a bad day, then you really have a bad day, with higher dpi's every little thing makes a huge difference. Performance becomes too unreliable.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #73 on: Tue, 12 August 2014, 20:37:03 »
Anyone using over 1000 is probably a youngin' in the gaming world and it's way higher than needed. There are no appreciable benefits at that amount or any higher. People can argue more "smoothness" for accuracy, but that doesn't really pan out if you're using the right sensitivity for your movement style.

High level graphics work is probably one of the few areas high DPI might be helpful.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #74 on: Wed, 13 August 2014, 01:45:25 »
Anyone using over 1000 is probably a youngin' in the gaming world and it's way higher than needed. There are no appreciable benefits at that amount or any higher. People can argue more "smoothness" for accuracy, but that doesn't really pan out if you're using the right sensitivity for your movement style.

High level graphics work is probably one of the few areas high DPI might be helpful.


Lol is 20 considered young these days?


I've recently been alternating between 800 and 1200 dpi depending on the game (osu/league). I don't believe high dpi has much 'accuracy' if you're going into the 6000s for dpi



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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #75 on: Wed, 13 August 2014, 02:43:40 »
Lol is 20 considered young these days?

I started gaming competitively 15 years ago, so relatively, 20 is young, yes.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #76 on: Wed, 13 August 2014, 02:44:03 »
The DPI and overall sensitivity I use is considerably lower than that of most people in this thread. I use a DPI of 450. With a windows sensitivity of 6/11. In FPS, my ingame sensitivity tends to be very low. In Counter Strike:Global Offensive, it is 1.75. In something like battlefield 4 it is as low as 3%.

I know it sounds horrible to a lot of people. And even for me, this kind of sensitivity was once silly. Many years ago, when Counter Strike 1.6 was really popular as a competitive game, I kind of ran into a wall. Despite the hours I put in, I felt unable to improve past a certain point. At first, I focused on the metagame to try and improve, and sure enough, this did lead to me being more successful in the game. But the simple fact remained that my speed and accuracy was not what I wanted it to be.

So after using a fairly high sensitivity for years (most people would think of it as a medium sensitivity). I one day decide to use a lower sensitivity. Even though it is silly to mimic the style of play of a pro gamer, my main reason for trying this out was that my favorite players at the time all had a low sensitivity playing style. Of course, because a certain level of sensitivity works for someone else does not mean that it works for you. However, I forced myself to stick with a lower sensitivity for a week or so.

During this time, I did not do matches with the people I normally play with, but just stuck to doing whatever helped me get used to the new sensitivity. Which at first meant playing a lot of Team Death Match. After just as little as a week (though playing every evening of every day during that week), I found that my overall accuracy and speed had already increased compared to my previous sensitivity that I had been using for years in other games (and for about a year and a half in CS 1.6).

Me and the guys I play with sometimes have LAN ( about twice a year ), and people always think it is fun to watch me play due to my sensitivity settings. These days, my sensitivity is lower than the one I copied from my old heroes. I tried to find a video to kind of show what that looks like. I found this, and I can tell this is almost the exact same sensitivity I play with:
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Here is another, from a well-known player. Though not quite as clear as the previous video:

I chose these videos because they show both the mouse movement and what happens on the screen. What you can see with those videos, is the kind of trade off that you get with using a low sensitivity in FPS. Yes, acquiring a target can be a lot easier for some people at low sensitivity, but you have to be able to do constant rapid sweeps of the mouse or your response would be too slow. Additionally, things like turning 180 degrees, will always be slower with a low sensitivity compared to a high sensitivity. That is why a low sensitivity might be more useful in some games than in others, depending on the accuracy needed, and the overall speed of the game.

Anyway, this is all just from an FPS perspective.

This playstyle is also what sparked my interest in mice (see the guide in my signature). Playing with a very low sensitivity is quite demanding, and exposes many problems a mouse may have. The problem that is most common is that sensors simply do not track at the speed with which you move the mouse. This practically forces you to go for gaming mice with decent sensors. Also other issues, such as acceleration may just be a theoretical problems for some, but if you swipe the mouse over large distances all the time, it becomes quite noticeable.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #77 on: Wed, 13 August 2014, 02:49:54 »
What you can see with those videos, is the kind of trade off that you get with using a low sensitivity in FPS. Yes, acquiring a target can be a lot easier for some people at low sensitivity, but you have to be able to do constant rapid sweeps of the mouse or your response would be too slow. Additionally, things like turning 180 degrees, will always be slower with a low sensitivity compared to a high sensitivity.

Anyway, this is all just from an FPS perspective.

This is where large mousepads came in back in the day (because of the prevalence with pros and low sensitivity), along with calibrating your sensitivity to the size of pad and your play style. For instance, some people maintained a centered position with their mouse on the pad, where they (and myself included) would set their sensitivity to such a value that swiping to the edge of the mousepad would complete a 180-degree turn to avoid flashes (flashbangs for those unfamiliar), and then allow for re-orientation.

As a perspective to Grim, my CS 1.6 sensitivity was 1.7 back in the day with my IE 3.0 mouse (400dpi), with the standard 6/11 Windows sensitivity. I haven't played CS in quite awhile, including CS:GO so I can't comment on those values. Outside of that, my QL sensitivity is currently 2.8 (still with my 400dpi), but that's an altogether different FPS experience and expectation in regards to speed and movement.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #78 on: Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:39:00 »
Using 1800 for Osu until I get my tablet... still rocking the 5700 casually. In shooting games I have been toning it back down though.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #79 on: Fri, 15 August 2014, 11:18:59 »
Using 1800 for Osu until I get my tablet... still rocking the 5700 casually. In shooting games I have been toning it back down though.


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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #80 on: Fri, 15 August 2014, 11:20:22 »
Using 1800 for Osu until I get my tablet... still rocking the 5700 casually. In shooting games I have been toning it back down though.


Fk you, you don't even play osu


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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #81 on: Fri, 15 August 2014, 11:28:10 »
Using 1800 for Osu until I get my tablet... still rocking the 5700 casually. In shooting games I have been toning it back down though.


Fk you, you don't even play osu


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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #82 on: Sun, 17 August 2014, 12:39:36 »
Starnan was on meta a few days ago, He also uses really high dpi, he said he used 6000 something, but he recently brought it down to 4,7k.
I started playing starcraft on a laptop with 15,6 inch 1080p screen and 400 dpi, someone told me when I was in bronze that higher dpi=better, so I started playing with 3,2k. I was having really bad wrist pains, and I read somewhere that It was good to keep it low because you move your arm more or something, so I moved down to 1200. The issue was that I was holding the mouse in a strange way that put a ton of pressure on my wrist. Then I got my salmosa asian edition with 800 or 1800 dpi so I choose 800, and stuck too it. A lot of mice seem to have that step so I stuck to it.
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Uh, stuff.

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« Reply #83 on: Sun, 17 August 2014, 14:18:40 »
Starnan was on meta a few days ago, He also uses really high dpi, he said he used 6000 something, but he recently brought it down to 4,7k.
I started playing starcraft on a laptop with 15,6 inch 1080p screen and 400 dpi, someone told me when I was in bronze that higher dpi=better, so I started playing with 3,2k. I was having really bad wrist pains, and I read somewhere that It was good to keep it low because you move your arm more or something, so I moved down to 1200. The issue was that I was holding the mouse in a strange way that put a ton of pressure on my wrist. Then I got my salmosa asian edition with 800 or 1800 dpi so I choose 800, and stuck too it. A lot of mice seem to have that step so I stuck to it.

You also bring up a point I forgot to mention in my above posts. Lower DPI and sens will, as you pointed out, rely more on arm movement than wrist movement. This ergonomically, is also better.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #84 on: Sun, 17 August 2014, 16:48:13 »
At 800 I still mostly move my wrist and fingers rather than my arm. But I don't play fps games that often, so I very rarely need to move my arm. It might be that I use a smaller mouse(g100s, I want this shape but longer and slightly lower.)
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« Reply #85 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:54:08 »
Lower DPI and sens will, as you pointed out, rely more on arm movement than wrist movement. This ergonomically, is also better.
Low sensitivity palm grip is pretty awful for the shoulder/back, if you ask me. It has a lot to do with keyboard width and desk/tray height as well though.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #86 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 11:03:34 »
Lower DPI and sens will, as you pointed out, rely more on arm movement than wrist movement. This ergonomically, is also better.
Low sensitivity palm grip is pretty awful for the shoulder/back, if you ask me.

Not sure I understand. Could you explain?
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #87 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 11:36:11 »
Lower DPI and sens will, as you pointed out, rely more on arm movement than wrist movement. This ergonomically, is also better.
Low sensitivity palm grip is pretty awful for the shoulder/back, if you ask me.

Not sure I understand. Could you explain?

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #88 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:12:42 »
I still don't really see the issue. Even moving back and forth on my larger mousepad than the one pictured, my shoulder actually plays very little role. The only time my shoulder is activated is during more intense movements during a game like Quake. Outside of that, I imagine your blue lines indicate movement back to a typing position? I can somewhat understand how that might increase movement, but there's not many alleviations for that, no matter the variables.

The biggest things people should consider when setting up their desk is that:

1. Arms are essentially at a 90 degree angle when in use at the desk.
2. WASD finger placement and mouse hand placement are shoulder-width apart, perpendicular.
3. Monitors tilted or raised so they're at eye level.
4. Maintain upright posture throughout sessions.

The other aspect to all of this is still going to be relative to the person and their physical nature. In a strictly general and anecdotal sense, from my time in gaming, from those I know personally, higher sensitivities and DPI put far more strain on your wrist because that's the only thing you're moving. Utilizing your arm and shoulder gives your wrist a break; that's not to say you will never be contorting or bending your wrists in gaming or computer sessions, but it spares you from the repetitive movements on just one body part.

And to your point, someone could have shoulder or back issues that become exasperbated with a lower DPI. Ergonomically speaking though, I'm fairly certain the general consensus would be on my above information.
 
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« Reply #89 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:48:45 »
No. I do not use High DPI (Dead Possum Ingestion technology).
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #90 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 14:38:56 »
The biggest things people should consider when setting up their desk is that:

1. Arms are essentially at a 90 degree angle when in use at the desk.
2. WASD finger placement and mouse hand placement are shoulder-width apart, perpendicular.
That's actually the problem.

My shoulders are slightly wider than average (which is about 46 cm AFAIK) and if I keep my arms almost in parallel with my body, forearms form ~90° angle with my belly and I place the left hand on WASD, then my right hand is on the nav cluster or numpad of a "standard" keyboard. This means my forearm is already pointing outwards, when I grab the mouse right next to the right side of a normal keyboard. Add low sensitivity (i.e. the mouse moves 30+ cm) and the forearm is suddenly pointing outwards at up to ~60° angle—or the elbow is floating in the air without any support. This is fatiguing.

Of course, if there's no keyboard to the right of said WASD, hands can for a triangle and the elbow is the pivot, it's a different story. It's nothing common though.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #91 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 15:34:38 »
Sifo I'm very curious.
I too hate moving across the mouse pad.
What is your dpi/monitor size/resolution and mousepad?
I'm using 2k dpi on 23" 1920x1080 and my hand is mostly stationary.
I use a Hayate mouse pad.
I'm wondering why you have to have your DPI so high to achieve the same movement.

Measured with a ruler an extended desktop on another same monitor ~2" = 3840 pixels.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #92 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 21:53:37 »

Sifo I'm very curious.
I too hate moving across the mouse pad.
What is your dpi/monitor size/resolution and mousepad?
I'm using 2k dpi on 23" 1920x1080 and my hand is mostly stationary.
I use a Hayate mouse pad.
I'm wondering why you have to have your DPI so high to achieve the same movement.

Measured with a ruler an extended desktop on another same monitor ~2" = 3840 pixels.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #93 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 04:23:50 »
Starnan was on meta a few days ago, He also uses really high dpi, he said he used 6000 something, but he recently brought it down to 4,7k.
I started playing starcraft on a laptop with 15,6 inch 1080p screen and 400 dpi, someone told me when I was in bronze that higher dpi=better, so I started playing with 3,2k. I was having really bad wrist pains, and I read somewhere that It was good to keep it low because you move your arm more or something, so I moved down to 1200. The issue was that I was holding the mouse in a strange way that put a ton of pressure on my wrist. Then I got my salmosa asian edition with 800 or 1800 dpi so I choose 800, and stuck too it. A lot of mice seem to have that step so I stuck to it.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #94 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 10:04:46 »
Starnan was on meta a few days ago, He also uses really high dpi, he said he used 6000 something, but he recently brought it down to 4,7k.
I started playing starcraft on a laptop with 15,6 inch 1080p screen and 400 dpi, someone told me when I was in bronze that higher dpi=better, so I started playing with 3,2k. I was having really bad wrist pains, and I read somewhere that It was good to keep it low because you move your arm more or something, so I moved down to 1200. The issue was that I was holding the mouse in a strange way that put a ton of pressure on my wrist. Then I got my salmosa asian edition with 800 or 1800 dpi so I choose 800, and stuck too it. A lot of mice seem to have that step so I stuck to it.

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I think I was also using acceleration and maxed windows speed. I was so bad at splitting Marines so I switched to zerg. It also seems like most protoss players tend to have higher than avarage dpi, I guess the type of micro they have to preform is very different than zerg players, I can't see my self successfully selecting a single zergling/baneling with 5k+ dpi.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #95 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 23:13:22 »

I am wondering, I am also thinking about getting myself 2-3 30"-ers. But is it usable/ Out of curiosity, could you post a pic so that I could see how such a massive setup looks?

It's pretty intense, but IMO perfectly usable.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #96 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 23:33:39 »
I tend to stick to 3300 DPI on my Logitech proteus core but due to the calibration it's probably closer to a 2200 on another mouse.
I thought over 2k was considered high...

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #97 on: Fri, 12 September 2014, 14:45:10 »
yea, for fps 600-1200 is the best range..
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #98 on: Sat, 13 September 2014, 04:16:46 »
I have a 17 inch monitor (1920x1080) and use 3120 dpi, windows at 6/11.
I usually play only Osu and for me it's impossible at lesser dpi settings, i always find myself too short for the required movement and it's uncomfortable to move too much all the time, with this setting it's just about right to cover all the screen effortlessly.
Before i bought my new mouse, the old one was 1000 dpi and the game settings at 3.1x, now the game is disabled to have the same feeling.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #99 on: Sun, 14 September 2014, 09:51:49 »
I have a 17 inch monitor (1920x1080) and use 3120 dpi, windows at 6/11.
I usually play only Osu and for me it's impossible at lesser dpi settings, i always find myself too short for the required movement and it's uncomfortable to move too much all the time, with this setting it's just about right to cover all the screen effortlessly.
Before i bought my new mouse, the old one was 1000 dpi and the game settings at 3.1x, now the game is disabled to have the same feeling.

PS: i have the new mouse from 3 days ago and i already beat many old records, it's another world from that cheap mouse before.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #100 on: Wed, 24 September 2014, 05:39:46 »
500dpi on 1366x768 ;D
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #101 on: Wed, 24 September 2014, 09:57:17 »
500dpi on 1366x768 ;D

it makes sense to use even 400 or 200 @ that resolution..


I use 2700dpi @ 2560x1600..


Higher dpi is more ergonomic, because I don't have to move my arm as much to get across the screen

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #102 on: Sun, 05 October 2014, 22:40:26 »
I don't see any point in using high DPI. I don't really game that much but when I play an occasional game of CoD 4, I play on low sensitivity.
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« Reply #103 on: Sun, 05 October 2014, 23:45:56 »
500dpi on 1366x768 ;D

it makes sense to use even 400 or 200 @ that resolution..


I use 2700dpi @ 2560x1600..


Higher dpi is more ergonomic, because I don't have to move my arm as much to get across the screen

you mean WEAKENING? real men exercise by moving low-DPI-powered cursors across multi-monitor setups.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #104 on: Mon, 06 October 2014, 11:36:54 »
Nope, 400DPI 100% of the time!

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #105 on: Tue, 07 October 2014, 09:31:01 »
Nope, 400DPI 100% of the time!
what size monitor you use?
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #106 on: Tue, 07 October 2014, 09:35:35 »
I have no mouse acceleration enabled on windows 7 and I am using an 27 inch monitor, with a resolution of 1920x1080.
In CS:GO I am playing with a sensitivity of 2.0

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #107 on: Mon, 06 July 2015, 08:13:41 »
Nope, 400DPI 100% of the time!
what size monitor you use?

640x480 :-P Enough is enough..
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #108 on: Mon, 06 July 2015, 22:08:35 »
I'm at 3000 dpi.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #109 on: Tue, 07 July 2015, 05:17:57 »
Use 3840×2160 and need to have at least 3200dpi on my mouse to cover the screen decently  :thumb: .

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« Reply #110 on: Tue, 07 July 2015, 08:12:36 »
Perhaps a nice analogy.. I was thinking about this. I now use 1600 DPI on my Avior 700 mostly for my 27" 2560x1440 without acceleration on OS X.

Isn't the DPI you use somewhat comparable to the chassis of a car like sports steering? When you use a relative low DPI (perhaps combined with mouse acceleration) on a high resolution screen it is more like a comfortable saloon car like a big old Mercedes. But when you use high DPI (with mouse acceleration off) the mouse "steers" really direct like a sports car. For instance, when I move my mouse from the middle of the screen to the left, it only takes me 2-3cm on my mat to reach the corner of the screen.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #111 on: Tue, 14 July 2015, 22:02:43 »
I've been flipping between the top two settings on my R.A.T. 9 - 6400 and 5600(? I think) I seem to be most comfortable with the latter. However, at work I'm using something freakishly slow. Since I primarily use keyboard navigation as a developer it isn't too big of a problem.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #113 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 23:49:00 »
I used to use high DPI when I played Quake. Specifically, I'd have to frequently 180, rocket jump, then swing back with minimal effort. After switching to shooters where managing recoil is the main challenge, I lowered my DPI significantly. I think I'm at 1600 with minimal in-game sensitivity, though in windows I use 4000.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #114 on: Wed, 22 July 2015, 04:18:55 »
800dpi on 1920x1080
to me this feels normal, but going through this thread i guess it's on the low side?
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #115 on: Wed, 22 July 2015, 21:26:19 »
1000 dpi is my sweet spot. This is especially true in FPS games.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #116 on: Tue, 20 October 2015, 22:51:02 »
Try this for fun... in Windows anyway.  Turn off the enhance pointer position in Pointer Options in Mouse Properties.  Turn the pointer speed way down.  In your custom gaming mouse software or on your gaming mouse... crank up the DPI really high.  Now, fairly normal movement with extreme control.  This is what I use for graphics and graphical programming for the controls systems I design.  I do this currently with a G700S and put the DPI very high.  If the mouse is moving really fast, turn down the pointer speed in the mouse properties even more.

I forgot to add, I also use a higher quality hard gaming mouse surface... Razer Sphex on home system and a SteelSeries 4HD on job sites.

Feedback?  Anyone try this?

And one more thing, the report Hz rate matters.  Set it as high as possible... 500-1000 Hz is best.
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« Reply #117 on: Wed, 21 October 2015, 21:29:11 »
MykB77 has almost the same as me, G700s on a Razer Sphex surface (works great on glass, but I may change it for something higher dpi).

I leave Windows settings alone, and use 5700 DPI with 1000 polling rate. For cad and graphics it works quite well on dual 1080p screens. I found that with 500 polling I couldn't always get pixel level precision on high detail work. This absolutely eats batteries though. Instead of the 2000 mah battery it comes with, I need a 2700mah to make it through a day of heavy use and even then it's often down at 10% by days end.

However, I tried using it on an old 1024x768 laptop the other day... Not going to work. haha It went flying across the screen with less than 1/4in mouse movement.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #118 on: Thu, 22 October 2015, 02:05:32 »
It's been about a year since I've replied this thread and it's still up here haha.

Right now I'm using a 23.8 inch monitor (Dell U2414H) and I use 400 DPI with it. Looking at other people's DPI levels in this thread are insane for me. I guess I'm used to low sensitivity after playing CS:GO all Summer. I can barely use the 1600 DPI setting on my Zowie EC2-A without feeling I'm going way too fast. I can imagine raising my DPI a little more if I were to get another monitor or even switch to an ultrawide monitor.
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« Reply #119 on: Thu, 22 October 2015, 02:23:18 »
I drop to 400 to play go and otherwise casually browse at 3600, previously 5700.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #120 on: Thu, 22 October 2015, 02:43:27 »
Back in the days I used 8200 dpi or so, but currently 6/11 in Windows mouse settings and 1200dpi. No acceleration.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #121 on: Fri, 23 October 2015, 06:05:29 »
I use 4800 dpi at 1920x1080 for everything, I prefer not having to drag my mouse halfway across my desk to reach something :P
I used to stick with 3200, but after that 4800 is something I got used to quite quickly.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #122 on: Fri, 23 October 2015, 13:50:24 »
I've been using 4.8k dpi for the last year. Been loving it for general OS maneuvability since I mainly operate on wrist movements. Used to play planetside 2 with this and never had any problems. I'd tone down to 3.2k for aerial stuff and I didn't have too much problem contesting with top players. I saw a previous post addressing this, but it comes down to comfort imo

Edit: Forgot to say that most mice past like ~6k dpi or something uses interpolation or whats-it-called to push the dpi past what the sensor actually captures. Can't say how reliable they are, but I don't trust anything higher than 4.8k
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« Reply #123 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 20:31:45 »
1600 @ 1920x1080

I have also tried lower sens with no luck. I don't get 200-400 it's insane. Do you guys play air-hockey with your mouse?

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #124 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 21:40:33 »
High DPI is always less accurate than a lower DPI (native) that tracks well.

Regardless, I prefer using the mouse's native DPI! ^-^

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #125 on: Wed, 28 October 2015, 06:32:13 »
1600 @ 1920x1080

I have also tried lower sens with no luck. I don't get 200-400 it's insane. Do you guys play air-hockey with your mouse?
 
I think it's for snipers in FPS, so they can make precise movements, whereas really high dps is for pros who are good at doing those 'flick-shots'. Not sure though. Personally I'm comfortable at 7000-8000 with mouse sensitivity 3 on a 1920x1080, a little under 1.5 inches to cross the monitor. I'm used to having small mousepads and limited space, so now even with a giant metal hulk, it's my preference.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #126 on: Wed, 28 October 2015, 14:47:03 »
Really low DPI on a huge mousepad for (450-600) FPS games.

3000+ for RTS and MOBAs (Starcraft and League).
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #127 on: Wed, 28 October 2015, 14:51:07 »
Really low DPI on a huge mousepad for (450-600) FPS games.

3000+ for RTS and MOBAs (Starcraft and League).
 
 
What mouse sensitivity is that on? AFAIK lots of people use 3, but I'm not sure.

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« Reply #128 on: Wed, 28 October 2015, 15:03:17 »
Really low DPI on a huge mousepad for (450-600) FPS games.

3000+ for RTS and MOBAs (Starcraft and League).
 
 
What mouse sensitivity is that on? AFAIK lots of people use 3, but I'm not sure.

Had to check but it's pretty much in the middle.
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« Reply #129 on: Wed, 28 October 2015, 15:59:31 »
Really low DPI on a huge mousepad for (450-600) FPS games.

3000+ for RTS and MOBAs (Starcraft and League).
 
 
What mouse sensitivity is that on? AFAIK lots of people use 3, but I'm not sure.

Had to check but it's pretty much in the middle.
 
If you can increase your dpi, you might want to decrease sensitivity and increase DPI, apparently when you're above 3 sensitivity, Windows starts skipping pixels. If that's not important then  :D

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« Reply #130 on: Wed, 28 October 2015, 22:50:01 »
1600 @ 1920x1080

I have also tried lower sens with no luck. I don't get 200-400 it's insane. Do you guys play air-hockey with your mouse?
 
I think it's for snipers in FPS, so they can make precise movements, whereas really high dps is for pros who are good at doing those 'flick-shots'. Not sure though. Personally I'm comfortable at 7000-8000 with mouse sensitivity 3 on a 1920x1080, a little under 1.5 inches to cross the monitor. I'm used to having small mousepads and limited space, so now even with a giant metal hulk, it's my preference.

You have to consider how it's controlled.
Your shoulder and elbow are not precise instruments, but they do have a large range of motion, so low resolution works best. Wrists and fingers are precise instruments, but lack range of motion, so high dpi works best. Done right, both should have similar accuracy, but I would give the speed advantage to high dpi.

I'm rarely the best player, but in games that show shooting accuracy, I'm usually right at the top.
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Offline logomachy

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #131 on: Thu, 29 October 2015, 18:56:53 »
No, I use 400 dpi as it is the limitation of the 1.1a.
With 27" becoming the standard and eventually high dpi displays---
I'm worried about the future where no sensor can replace the mlt04 for me.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #132 on: Fri, 30 October 2015, 11:14:50 »
Really low DPI on a huge mousepad for (450-600) FPS games.

3000+ for RTS and MOBAs (Starcraft and League).
 
 
What mouse sensitivity is that on? AFAIK lots of people use 3, but I'm not sure.

Had to check but it's pretty much in the middle.
 
If you can increase your dpi, you might want to decrease sensitivity and increase DPI, apparently when you're above 3 sensitivity, Windows starts skipping pixels. If that's not important then  :D

You know what I never noticed anything since I've been playing on a laptop screen for years. Yesterday I just got a BenQ gaming monitor and your suggested change made a really noticeable difference.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #133 on: Sat, 31 October 2015, 00:37:19 »
800 DPI is my choice
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #134 on: Tue, 03 November 2015, 00:38:27 »
I like 800. It works great for me!  :thumb:

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #135 on: Tue, 03 November 2015, 17:49:49 »
I go to the max dpi on my mouse without software which is 4800 DPI

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #136 on: Tue, 03 November 2015, 19:49:46 »
No, I use 400 dpi as it is the limitation of the 1.1a.
With 27" becoming the standard and eventually high dpi displays---
I'm worried about the future where no sensor can replace the mlt04 for me.

i know what you mean!
it's impossible for me to move back to the mlt04, however, because i'm already used to better/higher tracking speeds.
my favorite is still the WMO, but it just can not keep up with my swipes.
so i just decided to stick with newer sensors/mice, because it's inevitable that the 400dpi of the mlt04 will become insufficient at some point..
(and honestly i feel better knowing that my sensor can keep up with any speed i can get out of my arm/hand!)

i use 800cpi on 1920x1080. it's kind of fast in my opinion, but it's easy to be accurate, so it's fine with me.
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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #137 on: Wed, 04 November 2015, 03:30:00 »
I'm a big fan of 400dpi as a counter strike player. In game sense is 1.1 too so it's especially low. Also I used to be a 1600 user but once I got a big mousepad and lowered that sense, I really can't go back.

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Re: Does anyone else use high DPI?
« Reply #138 on: Wed, 04 November 2015, 04:33:23 »
> Does anyone else use high DPI?

ITT mostly people, who cannot read or want to boost their post count ASAP.