Yeah I too loved the old color of the alpha's, that was what drew me to this key set :-[ the first time
GLWB ;DEvery frickin time man
2nd and 4th pictures need resizing.
So, it is just me... or are there two 2.25u shifts in the kit? :P
Yeah I too loved the old color of the alpha's, that was what drew me to this key set :-[ the first time
Sorry to hear that, but the colour code actually hasn't changed at all! It's just different lighting conditions for the renders
So, it is just me... or are there two 2.25u shifts in the kit? :P
There are, to support FC660 / Clueboard layouts :)
congratulations.
def join in.
I think the second render is made by the same designer of the first and third one. The GMK official render is less accurate to some extent.Although not accurate, it is better to post it in OP. i love this color not only because of the original color-way but also the rare color.
I want to confirm some specifications on this:
A:how often the GB progress will be updated?
B:I have mistaken the MOQ of base in your IC. The moq of base kit is 250, am I right?
C:I could not find any GB period in OP and 4.20 on ZF site? Does that mean the GB period remain uncertainty. If base kit hit MOQ in the expected period , everything is great. If not, the GB period will be extend to help reach MOQ?
Thank you
congratulations.
def join in.
I think the second render is made by the same designer of the first and third one. The GMK official render is less accurate to some extent.Although not accurate, it is better to post it in OP. i love this color not only because of the original color-way but also the rare color.
I want to confirm some specifications on this:
A:how often the GB progress will be updated?
B:I have mistaken the MOQ of base in your IC. The moq of base kit is 250, am I right?
C:I could not find any GB period in OP and 4.20 on ZF site? Does that mean the GB period remain uncertainty. If base kit hit MOQ in the expected period , everything is great. If not, the GB period will be extend to help reach MOQ?
Thank you
A. Daily on my end. I'll get updates from EU and Asia every day/every other day.
B. 250 MOQ for base, yes.
C. April 20th, but I will extend a week or two if absolutely needed.
Hello!
This is the GB page for GMK Necro.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)
Please express all thoughts on this keyset here! Opinions welcome.
Base kitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/PbisJtg.jpg)
Novelty kitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/hPdhDQe.png)
Spacebar kitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/FdxtzGg.png)
The keyset is available to be purchased on one of the following:
North America - Necro will be available @ DMKeys.com (https://dmkeys.com/collections/all)
Europe - Necro will be available @ mykeyboard.eu (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/gmk-necro_44/)
Asia & Australia - Necro will be available @ zFrontier.com (https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/gmk/products/gmk-necro)
I just realized there’s no 6u spacebar in the base set. Aren’t they now being thrown in for free due to GMK wanting sets to have it to use with their exclusive board? Might want to ask just in case.
Hello!
This is the GB page for GMK Necro.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)
Please express all thoughts on this keyset here! Opinions welcome.
Base kitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/PbisJtg.jpg)
Novelty kitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/hPdhDQe.png)
Spacebar kitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/FdxtzGg.png)
The keyset is available to be purchased on one of the following:
North America - Necro will be available @ DMKeys.com (https://dmkeys.com/collections/all)
Europe - Necro will be available @ mykeyboard.eu (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/gmk-necro_44/)
Asia & Australia - Necro will be available @ zFrontier.com (https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/gmk/products/gmk-necro)
I just realized there’s no 6u spacebar in the base set. Aren’t they now being thrown in for free due to GMK wanting sets to have it to use with their exclusive board? Might want to ask just in case.
I am in via mykeyboard.eu, base + novelties. Hopefully you have something to increase the hype.
thingies, you say?I am in via mykeyboard.eu, base + novelties. Hopefully you have something to increase the hype.
I'm gonna include some stickers in all orders fulfilled by me :)
That said, I've got a couple other thingies
Lovely colourway.Glad to hear it :)
There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(
Lovely colourway.Glad to hear it :)There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(
It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)
Edit: Updated numbers in OP
Edit: Updated numbers in OP
Including EU Numbers™ now!Edit: Updated numbers in OP
Including EU numbers?
Lovely colourway.Glad to hear it :)There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(
It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)
Edit: Updated numbers in OP
Any word on the 6u Spacebar for the base set?
Lovely colourway.Glad to hear it :)There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(
It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)
Edit: Updated numbers in OP
Any word on the 6u Spacebar for the base set?
Email sent, but I believe Germany celebrates Easter Monday so probably won't have a response till later this week. I'll be sure to keep you guys posted on that one
Was hoping you could extend the gb period to end april, at least that will be payday for me lol.
Was hoping you could extend the gb period to end april, at least that will be payday for me lol.
Yah, based on many requests, I'm gonna just go ahead and extend the GB to April 27th to make it an even 4 weeks.
I've contacted my proxys it and they will update their ends accordingly :)
After seeing the GMK sale choices on Massdrop, this set is a steal ...Worth noting that the Massdrop GMK Keycap Extravaganza prices aren't GB prices. They are previously manufactured and ship in about a month from drop end.
So I got a response back from GMK, and they are willing to offer a 6u off centre spacebar for the base kit for no additional cost!Lovely colourway.Glad to hear it :)There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(
It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)
Edit: Updated numbers in OP
Any word on the 6u Spacebar for the base set?
So I got a response back from GMK, and they are willing to offer a 6u off centre spacebar for the base kit for no additional cost!Lovely colourway.Glad to hear it :)There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(
It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)
Edit: Updated numbers in OP
Any word on the 6u Spacebar for the base set?
I’ll have an updated render from oblotzky here shortly :)
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There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(
There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(
That is a bummer, so no VE.A support...Welp, lets see how the numbers work out. Worst case scenario third times a charm (on Massdrop where every GMK set hits MOQ now).
There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(
It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)
There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(
It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)
Not for the Plank, it's for the Clueboard, it uses two 2u bars as split.
Some Vim caps for this would be sweetThere's no 2u in the space bars kit :(
It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)
Not for the Plank, it's for the Clueboard, it uses two 2u bars as split.
Hopefully when this hits MoQ and gets made, there can be some child sets made to address boards like the Planck and Preonic like they did with GMK 9009.
Some Vim caps for this would be sweet
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not sure this is the best place to ask this, but does anyone know where to get this artisan? A Necro colored one would be perfect for this set.
Thanks!Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180405/09ecfc71dc91f5b02406ce6491e63e26.jpg)
not sure this is the best place to ask this, but does anyone know where to get this artisan? A Necro colored one would be perfect for this set.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85766.0
Hello!
Updated the numbers for the last few days. Sorry for the lack of any interaction here, I've been out of town for a couple days visiting a friend visiting from out of the country :)
We're doing well so far, and there's always a lull towards the middle of a GB but I'm still gonna push this set on reddit and IG, and any other avenues you guys think would be worth pushing on ;)
Thanks for all the wonderful support so far, I appreciate it a lot
Is the combined ordered with both proxies? I want to see this set make it!
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Also, announcing it here since I got permission to:
Brocaps will be making artisans to match Necro. Some lucky orders will get a free Kep in their order!
I'll be working with him closely the next couple weeks and keep you all posted ;)
Also, announcing it here since I got permission to:
Brocaps will be making artisans to match Necro. Some lucky orders will get a free Kep in their order!
I'll be working with him closely the next couple weeks and keep you all posted ;)
Is this for CONUS orders only?
Also, announcing it here since I got permission to:
Brocaps will be making artisans to match Necro. Some lucky orders will get a free Kep in their order!
I'll be working with him closely the next couple weeks and keep you all posted ;)
Also, announcing it here since I got permission to:Well now I'm starting to think about buying more than one set just to up my chances...
Brocaps will be making artisans to match Necro. Some lucky orders will get a free Kep in their order!
I'll be working with him closely the next couple weeks and keep you all posted ;)
How are the numbers looking Brazzers? :)
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...
after supporting and crusading for hub in the forums this is disheartening to see...not because it is well outside the lines of gb etiquette or because these types of concerns are better suited for the ic process...but because for someone with a project in the air whom one would think understands the struggle of producing any thing in this community i would hope to not see negative energy vibes dumped onto an active endeavor...positive encouragement or a necro hub runback tossup would have been classy
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...
I think I am cancelling my kickstarter pledge for the Hub...
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...
C’mon now...leave the negativity at home. The MiniVan isn’t the only type of keyboard available...so you could build another board & choose to put Necro on it.
I agree with jimirolln - this is a comment that would’ve been suitable for the IC thread...not the GB thread where Brazzers is trying to hit a goal just like you are.
Peace onEarthGH
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...
C’mon now...leave the negativity at home. The MiniVan isn’t the only type of keyboard available...so you could build another board & choose to put Necro on it.
I agree with jimirolln - this is a comment that would’ve been suitable for the IC thread...not the GB thread where Brazzers is trying to hit a goal just like you are.
Peace onEarthGH
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...
Completely useless? LOL... Just like HUB keycaps are completely useless for my HHKB layout because it lacks a R3 175U Control.
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...
Completely useless? LOL... Just like HUB keycaps are completely useless for my HHKB layout because it lacks a R3 175U Control.
Correct legends is not the same as correct profile. Like I said earlier, I came off way more negative than I intended and for that I am truly sorry.
Brazzers, best of luck with this gb, I might get in on some novelties.
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...
Completely useless? LOL... Just like HUB keycaps are completely useless for my HHKB layout because it lacks a R3 175U Control.
Correct legends is not the same as correct profile. Like I said earlier, I came off way more negative than I intended and for that I am truly sorry.
Brazzers, best of luck with this gb, I might get in on some novelties.
Man this is some backlash. We should all be trying to support both of these GB's. HuB and Necro both need to get made. Maybe after Necro meets MoQ, Evan could get together with Brazzers and put out a 40's kit like the one for GMK 9009. That would be a great way to fill in the gaps for some of the smaller boards. :thumb:
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...
Completely useless? LOL... Just like HUB keycaps are completely useless for my HHKB layout because it lacks a R3 175U Control.
Correct legends is not the same as correct profile. Like I said earlier, I came off way more negative than I intended and for that I am truly sorry.
Brazzers, best of luck with this gb, I might get in on some novelties.
Man this is some backlash. We should all be trying to support both of these GB's. HuB and Necro both need to get made. Maybe after Necro meets MoQ, Evan could get together with Brazzers and put out a 40's kit like the one for GMK 9009. That would be a great way to fill in the gaps for some of the smaller boards. :thumb:
Way to inject some sanity into this thread. I agree totally, with the sentiment and the solution.
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...
Completely useless? LOL... Just like HUB keycaps are completely useless for my HHKB layout because it lacks a R3 175U Control.
Correct legends is not the same as correct profile. Like I said earlier, I came off way more negative than I intended and for that I am truly sorry.
Brazzers, best of luck with this gb, I might get in on some novelties.
Man this is some backlash. We should all be trying to support both of these GB's. HuB and Necro both need to get made. Maybe after Necro meets MoQ, Evan could get together with Brazzers and put out a 40's kit like the one for GMK 9009. That would be a great way to fill in the gaps for some of the smaller boards. :thumb:
Way to inject some sanity into this thread. I agree totally, with the sentiment and the solution.
Less bickering and more support for our community. ;)
Hi everyone, updated the OP with numbers. We're officially past 70 set sold :) Thanks for all the support so far!!
And also I'm very sorry for the delay on this, I was supposed to get home last night but car trouble kept me about a day extra. Thanks for your patience.
Also I'm glad there was civil discourse while I was gone.
@evangs I'd totally be down to work together to do something similar to the 9009 40's kit in the future, because I do think tiny keebs are cute <3
Hi everyone, updated the OP with numbers. We're officially past 70 set sold :) Thanks for all the support so far!!
And also I'm very sorry for the delay on this, I was supposed to get home last night but car trouble kept me about a day extra. Thanks for your patience.
Also I'm glad there was civil discourse while I was gone.
@evangs I'd totally be down to work together to do something similar to the 9009 40's kit in the future, because I do think tiny keebs are cute <3
No clue, we can cross that bridge when it comes :)Hi everyone, updated the OP with numbers. We're officially past 70 set sold :) Thanks for all the support so far!!
And also I'm very sorry for the delay on this, I was supposed to get home last night but car trouble kept me about a day extra. Thanks for your patience.
Also I'm glad there was civil discourse while I was gone.
@evangs I'd totally be down to work together to do something similar to the 9009 40's kit in the future, because I do think tiny keebs are cute <3
I would love to do this! do you know if adding a kit on a custom color order is still only 100 units?
No clue, we can cross that bridge when it comes :)Hi everyone, updated the OP with numbers. We're officially past 70 set sold :) Thanks for all the support so far!!
And also I'm very sorry for the delay on this, I was supposed to get home last night but car trouble kept me about a day extra. Thanks for your patience.
Also I'm glad there was civil discourse while I was gone.
@evangs I'd totally be down to work together to do something similar to the 9009 40's kit in the future, because I do think tiny keebs are cute <3
I would love to do this! do you know if adding a kit on a custom color order is still only 100 units?
How about to extend the GB phase as long as it necessary to hit MOQ for base kits?
With the pacing we're seeing, this is looking like it will be the case :) If it takes 6 weeks, I think that's worth it.
Updated numbers in OP as well :)
Side note: Number updates will be semi-inconsistent in the next few days, my boyfriend is in the hospital and I'm spending as much time with him as I can.
Thank you all for understanding.
I bought in and would also be ok with leaving it open until moq hitsHow about to extend the GB phase as long as it necessary to hit MOQ for base kits?
With the pacing we're seeing, this is looking like it will be the case :) If it takes 6 weeks, I think that's worth it.
Updated numbers in OP as well :)
Side note: Number updates will be semi-inconsistent in the next few days, my boyfriend is in the hospital and I'm spending as much time with him as I can.
Thank you all for understanding.
Extending it would be great if needed, but I’m concerned with the lack of promotion. What exactly is the plan to hit MOQ?I assume that's what the custom cable and Brocaps artisan is for? Hopefully we get more info on those in the next few days.
It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)
Extending it would be great if needed, but I’m concerned with the lack of promotion. What exactly is the plan to hit MOQ?
pls let it run longer till it hits! I wonder if any distributors/stores would be interested in grabbing a bunch to sell....Not out of the question :)
if i already paid for the base kit and novelties kit, can i still get the spacebars as a separate order?
sweet, thanks! can't wait to slap this set onto an hhkbif i already paid for the base kit and novelties kit, can i still get the spacebars as a separate order?
Yup yup, if you order them separate they'll all ship together. No extra shipping cost
Does this kit contain two 1.5 caps? I need them for my favorite 96 layout!
Does this kit contain two 1.5 caps? I need them for my favorite 96 layout!
Have a look into the base kit render. It states two alt and two control keys in R4.
This only get to production when it reaches MOQ?Correct and I dont believe they make the add on kits if the base doesn't make it
This set could really use some promotion, especially going against olivia and violet tendencies. Not looking forward for it to fail again
I think Jess is doing the best she can, but like you said "Where's the hype". A bunch more people bought into an EPBT set than a GMK set. So we wait and hopefully people will realize what they are missingThis set could really use some promotion, especially going against olivia and violet tendencies. Not looking forward for it to fail again
srsly this.. I'm in for Olivia (which I believe is going to get made now), and a few others right now... but out of all of them *this* is the set I would most like to see if I could just pick one. I'm trying to figure out a way to purchase a 2nd one if that will help.
I'll take a stroll through massdrop again and see if I can post a few more.
Where the vendors at??? Where the hype for BroCaps at???
I'm still waiting to put in my 1-2 orders for the base set but this still looks way off =(.
I'm still waiting to put in my 1-2 orders for the base set but this still looks way off =(.
Are there any benefits to waiting? You might be keeping the numbers lower which in turn keeps others from jumping in too.
I don't want to tie my money into something when I can put it into something else. It's happened in the past with other GBs. Also the numbers are just way off to be even close to the goal =/.
What if 200 other people also do this thoughI'm still waiting to put in my 1-2 orders for the base set but this still looks way off =(.
Are there any benefits to waiting? You might be keeping the numbers lower which in turn keeps others from jumping in too.
I don't want to tie my money into something when I can put it into something else. It's happened in the past with other GBs. Also the numbers are just way off to be even close to the goal =/.
I am wondering if people are holding off because of DMKeys? What other group buys have DMKeys handled?I think this is Jessica's own site? As far as I can see this is the only GB they've handled.
I think there are probably 4-5 other sites that if they were running the buy it would have succeeded the first attempt. Probably the only reason being people's warm fuzzy with a familiar site.
Any update on the numbers?
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Looking forward to seeing those numbers :)Any update on the numbers?
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Hi guys, sorry for such mediocre updates the last week or so. Lots of irl problems right now, but I will be home and able to actually update everything tomorrow.
I've got some big stuff in the pipeline here soon. Stay tuned ;)
I would like to know the current numbers aswell, that'll decide whether I Want to tie some money into this right now :thumb:
so any news on the stats since tomorrow is the deadline for the moq???
so any news on the stats since tomorrow is the deadline for the moq???
Practically wondering the same thing, the silence just doesn't any sense at this point...?
so any news on the stats since tomorrow is the deadline for the moq???
Practically wondering the same thing, the silence just doesn't any sense at this point...?
so any news on the stats since tomorrow is the deadline for the moq???
Practically wondering the same thing, the silence just doesn't any sense at this point...?
Agreed. I doubt we’re even close given how far away we were just one week ago. However my biggest concerns right now is that I’m not sure the commitment to drive this is there. Which is a shame since this set is beautiful
so any news on the stats since tomorrow is the deadline for the moq???
Practically wondering the same thing, the silence just doesn't any sense at this point...?
I am starting to worry...
From poking around, it seems like the OP has been updated to say the GB doesn't have a confirmed GB close date.
"TIMELINE:
March 30: Group buy opens
Unknown Date: Group buy closes
so any news on the stats since tomorrow is the deadline for the moq???
Practically wondering the same thing, the silence just doesn't any sense at this point...?
I am starting to worry...
From poking around, it seems like the OP has been updated to say the GB doesn't have a confirmed GB close date.
"TIMELINE:
March 30: Group buy opens
Unknown Date: Group buy closes
1 week after GB ends: Order will be placed with GMK by this point"
Personally, not really worried too much, yet. Updates would be nice, esp since the DMKeys site claims daily updates & a GB End date of 27th. It can get a bit confusing as info doesn't match up.
Fingers are crossed! Hoping this set gets made & it's smooth sailing after all the present hiccups are dealt with :thumb:
Hello all,
Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)
So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.
YupHello all,
Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)
So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.
Glad to hear from you. Hope everything works out for you. So the buy is definitely going to stay live until we meet MoQ?
YupHello all,
Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)
So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.
Glad to hear from you. Hope everything works out for you. So the buy is definitely going to stay live until we meet MoQ?
YupHello all,
Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)
So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.
Glad to hear from you. Hope everything works out for you. So the buy is definitely going to stay live until we meet MoQ?
YupHello all,
Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)
So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.
Glad to hear from you. Hope everything works out for you. So the buy is definitely going to stay live until we meet MoQ?
Do you have any numbers as to what the current total is/how far we are from the MOQ?
YupHello all,
Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)
So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.
Glad to hear from you. Hope everything works out for you. So the buy is definitely going to stay live until we meet MoQ?
Hello all,
Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)
So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.
Hello all,Big if true
Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)
So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.
Health is first, we'll still be here when you are ready :)
Will the refund come with a notification of why and what to do to replace the order with originative? Otherwise a lot of people might miss it and not get back in if they don't read the threads in the next couple weeks.
Will the refund come with a notification of why and what to do to replace the order with originative? Otherwise a lot of people might miss it and not get back in if they don't read the threads in the next couple weeks.
First of, super super glad this set is gonna go ahead :pSherryton has also worked out lower pricing with mykeyboard, so hopefully you all like lower costs ;)
Secondly, did some quick maths (which are hopefully correct) for EU buyers.
if you bought from mykeyboard (EU proxy) you were saving some cost of VAT + shipping before compared to buying from dmkeys and handling VAT etc. yourself. I can't remember what the exact numbers were for this. With the new pricing, its pretty much the same price whether you buy from originative or mykeyboard, but you will handle VAT yourself if buying from originative. So you are not missing out any price reduction despite new originative pricing, probably why orders from proxies are not effected even though US orders have a technical price reduction ;D its kinda like you had a reduction before which was a blessing but now its just a smaller blessing not having to deal with VAT yourself, I hope that is correct ...
Additionally for UK buyers, the Royal Mail extra handling charge still makes mykeyboard.eu the preferable choice :)
First of, super super glad this set is gonna go ahead :p
Secondly, did some quick maths (which are hopefully correct) for EU buyers.
if you bought from mykeyboard (EU proxy) you were saving some cost of VAT + shipping before compared to buying from dmkeys and handling VAT etc. yourself. I can't remember what the exact numbers were for this. With the new pricing, its pretty much the same price whether you buy from originative or mykeyboard, but you will handle VAT yourself if buying from originative. So you are not missing out any price reduction despite new originative pricing, probably why orders from proxies are not effected even though US orders have a technical price reduction ;D its kinda like you had a reduction before which was a blessing but now its just a smaller blessing not having to deal with VAT yourself, I hope that is correct ...
Additionally for UK buyers, the Royal Mail extra handling charge still makes mykeyboard.eu the preferable choice :)
First of, super super glad this set is gonna go ahead :p
Secondly, did some quick maths (which are hopefully correct) for EU buyers.
if you bought from mykeyboard (EU proxy) you were saving some cost of VAT + shipping before compared to buying from dmkeys and handling VAT etc. yourself. I can't remember what the exact numbers were for this. With the new pricing, its pretty much the same price whether you buy from originative or mykeyboard, but you will handle VAT yourself if buying from originative. So you are not missing out any price reduction despite new originative pricing, probably why orders from proxies are not effected even though US orders have a technical price reduction ;D its kinda like you had a reduction before which was a blessing but now its just a smaller blessing not having to deal with VAT yourself, I hope that is correct ...
Additionally for UK buyers, the Royal Mail extra handling charge still makes mykeyboard.eu the preferable choice :)
I thought mykeyboard include VAT in their price?
First of, super super glad this set is gonna go ahead :pSherryton has also worked out lower pricing with mykeyboard, so hopefully you all like lower costs ;)
Secondly, did some quick maths (which are hopefully correct) for EU buyers.
if you bought from mykeyboard (EU proxy) you were saving some cost of VAT + shipping before compared to buying from dmkeys and handling VAT etc. yourself. I can't remember what the exact numbers were for this. With the new pricing, its pretty much the same price whether you buy from originative or mykeyboard, but you will handle VAT yourself if buying from originative. So you are not missing out any price reduction despite new originative pricing, probably why orders from proxies are not effected even though US orders have a technical price reduction ;D its kinda like you had a reduction before which was a blessing but now its just a smaller blessing not having to deal with VAT yourself, I hope that is correct ...
Additionally for UK buyers, the Royal Mail extra handling charge still makes mykeyboard.eu the preferable choice :)
Hi everyone, big official news here!
Originative have decided to buy out the GMK Necro group buy, to ensure the set gets produced.
Unfortunately, there is no easy way to transfer orders from our website to theirs.
So starting tonight (May 11, 5PM PST) all current GMK Necro orders from DMKeys.com will be refunded, with future orders for GMK Necro being handled by Originative.
Hi everyone, big official news here!
Originative have decided to buy out the GMK Necro group buy, to ensure the set gets produced.
Unfortunately, there is no easy way to transfer orders from our website to theirs.
So starting tonight (May 11, 5PM PST) all current GMK Necro orders from DMKeys.com will be refunded, with future orders for GMK Necro being handled by Originative.
So who’s approving the samples? You or Originative?
Me me me me me me me. I retain 1000% full creative command here.
Plus, I have a really cool setup now to assess colours really well, so the colours will look pretty much exactly how I want them to ;)
Does that mean pre-orders of necro are on going? Are is there a cut off date? cause it might be a month or two before i can get my order in but would like to have this set!
Does that mean pre-orders of necro are on going? Are is there a cut off date? cause it might be a month or two before i can get my order in but would like to have this set!
Specific details to come in the next few days. From my understanding, preorders will go on for a set amount of time (probably a few weeks), then close, then once the set is physically in stock, there will be a limited quantity for sale at an increased price as per usual :)
First of, super super glad this set is gonna go ahead
Secondly, did some quick maths (which are hopefully correct) for EU buyers.
if you bought from mykeyboard (EU proxy) you were saving some cost ofVAT +shipping before compared to buying from dmkeys and handling VAT etc. yourself. I can't remember what the exact numbers were for this. With the new pricing, its pretty much the same price whether you buy from originative or mykeyboard, but you will handle VAT yourself if buying from originative. So you are not missing out any price reduction despite new originative pricing, probably why orders from proxies are not effected even though US orders have a technical price reduction its kinda like you had a reduction before which was a blessing but now its just a smaller blessing only not having to deal with VAT yourself, I hope that is correct ...
Additionally for UK buyers, the Royal Mail extra handling charge still makes mykeyboard.eu the preferable choice
EDIT: corrected stuff about VAT, mykeyboard pricing does include VAT, i meant shipping reduction only with a bonus of mykeyboard handling VAT for us
First of, super super glad this set is gonna go ahead
Secondly, did some quick maths (which are hopefully correct) for EU buyers.
if you bought from mykeyboard (EU proxy) you were saving some cost ofVAT +shipping before compared to buying from dmkeys and handling VAT etc. yourself. I can't remember what the exact numbers were for this. With the new pricing, its pretty much the same price whether you buy from originative or mykeyboard, but you will handle VAT yourself if buying from originative. So you are not missing out any price reduction despite new originative pricing, probably why orders from proxies are not effected even though US orders have a technical price reduction its kinda like you had a reduction before which was a blessing but now its just a smaller blessing only not having to deal with VAT yourself, I hope that is correct ...
Additionally for UK buyers, the Royal Mail extra handling charge still makes mykeyboard.eu the preferable choice
EDIT: corrected stuff about VAT, mykeyboard pricing does include VAT, i meant shipping reduction only with a bonus of mykeyboard handling VAT for us
Some parts of this are not entirely true but may vary for each EU country. Yes mykeyboard does include vat however, when I order something straight from Originative I have to pay VAT on a larger sum. Value + shipping > 21% custom fees. And on top of that a admin fee of at least €13. (This is in The Netherlands)
As said, this may not be exactly the same for all EU buyers but in my case buying from oro is usually more expensive than buying directly in the EU due to custom fees. Obviously this all changes when the package is undervalued. As a company though, this is a bit iffy at the very least.
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Is there a reason that it's currently listed as Out of Stock over on OCo even though it says pre-orders end on June 8th?
Is there a reason that it's currently listed as Out of Stock over on OCo even though it says pre-orders end on June 8th?
It isn't live yet.
Is there a reason that it's currently listed as Out of Stock over on OCo even though it says pre-orders end on June 8th?
It isn't live yet.
Yup. It's not out of stock, just not available yet
Anyone has any idea about the shipping price to Canada ?
Jess, I just got a weird message about the eCheck payment from DMKey being declined by the sender's bank. Any idea what that is about?I got the same thing and already told her about it. She said she would take care of it
Jess, I just got a weird message about the eCheck payment from DMKey being declined by the sender's bank. Any idea what that is about?
Jess, I just got a weird message about the eCheck payment from DMKey being declined by the sender's bank. Any idea what that is about?
Hi yes, I was just made aware of this and know exactly what's going on.
Basically, Paypal refunded everyone but pulled the money from my personal bank account instead of my business one.
This should, hopefully, be a quick and easy fix. Very sorry about this, but it should all be resolved in the next couple of days.
Thanks for your patience
Jess, I just got a weird message about the eCheck payment from DMKey being declined by the sender's bank. Any idea what that is about?
Hi yes, I was just made aware of this and know exactly what's going on.
Basically, Paypal refunded everyone but pulled the money from my personal bank account instead of my business one.
This should, hopefully, be a quick and easy fix. Very sorry about this, but it should all be resolved in the next couple of days.
Thanks for your patience
Oh crap, hope PayPal didn’t wipe you out.
Paypal refund says: "We're processing your refund and your money will be available on May 30, 2018."Originative is running the buy now. I liked that the switch was this easy. Not sure how that's a negative
Why does Originative automatically get my order info and billing information? Pass.
Paypal refund says: "We're processing your refund and your money will be available on May 30, 2018."
Paypal refund says: "We're processing your refund and your money will be available on May 30, 2018."
Why does Originative automatically get my order info and billing information? Pass.
Paypal refund says: "We're processing your refund and your money will be available on May 30, 2018."
Why does Originative automatically get my order info and billing information? Pass.
Originative is running the buy, so I gave them all of my customers contact info to make it as easy on everyone as possible :)
If that puts you off, that's your decision to make.
Paypal refund says: "We're processing your refund and your money will be available on May 30, 2018."
Why does Originative automatically get my order info and billing information? Pass.
Originative is running the buy, so I gave them all of my customers contact info to make it as easy on everyone as possible :)
If that puts you off, that's your decision to make.
I got a email from Originative with a direct link to purchase the Necro set.
It looks like they imported in all the contact info of people who purchased from DMKeys originally?
I guess we've gotten first invite at the buy because (as of this posting) the Originative Co. link that was posted earlier to their GMK Necro page doesn't work anymore.
Any who, I've ordered the set once again.
We'll overcome these obstacles and get the set made in the end!
Paypal refund says: "We're processing your refund and your money will be available on May 30, 2018."
Why does Originative automatically get my order info and billing information? Pass.
Originative is running the buy, so I gave them all of my customers contact info to make it as easy on everyone as possible :)
If that puts you off, that's your decision to make.
I got a email from Originative with a direct link to purchase the Necro set.
It looks like they imported in all the contact info of people who purchased from DMKeys originally?
I guess we've gotten first invite at the buy because (as of this posting) the Originative Co. link that was posted earlier to their GMK Necro page doesn't work anymore.
Any who, I've ordered the set once again.
We'll overcome these obstacles and get the set made in the end!
I didn't get an email from Originative.. I'd like to order ASAP... (I was in the DMKeys gb). Did I miss something?
Is this going to be open to people that hadn't yet joined on dmkeys?
I got a email from Originative with a direct link to purchase the Necro set.
It looks like they imported in all the contact info of people who purchased from DMKeys originally?
I guess we've gotten first invite at the buy because (as of this posting) the Originative Co. link that was posted earlier to their GMK Necro page doesn't work anymore.
Any who, I've ordered the set once again.
We'll overcome these obstacles and get the set made in the end!
I didn't get an email from Originative.. I'd like to order ASAP... (I was in the DMKeys gb). Did I miss something?
Brazzers,I got a email from Originative with a direct link to purchase the Necro set.
It looks like they imported in all the contact info of people who purchased from DMKeys originally?
I guess we've gotten first invite at the buy because (as of this posting) the Originative Co. link that was posted earlier to their GMK Necro page doesn't work anymore.
Any who, I've ordered the set once again.
We'll overcome these obstacles and get the set made in the end!
I didn't get an email from Originative.. I'd like to order ASAP... (I was in the DMKeys gb). Did I miss something?
Go ahead and email Dylan@DMKeys.com with your order info and I'll make sure Oco has the right info.
I really should get my own email log in for my own website instead of using the one my cousin made when he set it up... :thinking:
Brazzers,I got a email from Originative with a direct link to purchase the Necro set.
It looks like they imported in all the contact info of people who purchased from DMKeys originally?
I guess we've gotten first invite at the buy because (as of this posting) the Originative Co. link that was posted earlier to their GMK Necro page doesn't work anymore.
Any who, I've ordered the set once again.
We'll overcome these obstacles and get the set made in the end!
I didn't get an email from Originative.. I'd like to order ASAP... (I was in the DMKeys gb). Did I miss something?
Go ahead and email Dylan@DMKeys.com with your order info and I'll make sure Oco has the right info.
I really should get my own email log in for my own website instead of using the one my cousin made when he set it up... :thinking:
Do you know if peeps that hadn't yet gotten in on the GB will have a chance to join or is OCo just buying the rest and selling them at a markup?
Will do!Brazzers,I got a email from Originative with a direct link to purchase the Necro set.
It looks like they imported in all the contact info of people who purchased from DMKeys originally?
I guess we've gotten first invite at the buy because (as of this posting) the Originative Co. link that was posted earlier to their GMK Necro page doesn't work anymore.
Any who, I've ordered the set once again.
We'll overcome these obstacles and get the set made in the end!
I didn't get an email from Originative.. I'd like to order ASAP... (I was in the DMKeys gb). Did I miss something?
Go ahead and email Dylan@DMKeys.com with your order info and I'll make sure Oco has the right info.
I really should get my own email log in for my own website instead of using the one my cousin made when he set it up... :thinking:
Do you know if peeps that hadn't yet gotten in on the GB will have a chance to join or is OCo just buying the rest and selling them at a markup?
Everyone else will still be able to get in at gb prices :) I'm not sure if there is a limit or not though, so keep your eyes peeled!
Will do!
I really don't know why they're waiting to open up the public page for Necro.... unless they don't want it to interfere with Honeywell buying at the moment.The only reason I can see is because they are going to buy out the rest of the set to sell at retail price. I'd be really unhappy with this as I was planning on joining the GB but was in no hurry since it was specifically stated there was no end date. I think that would be really uncool strategy so I'm hoping that isn't the case.
But I don't see much conflict here. Most people are going to prefer one over the other, and not struggle between deciding which one of the two they'd want to buy.
I really don't know why they're waiting to open up the public page for Necro.... unless they don't want it to interfere with Honeywell buying at the moment.The only reason I can see is because they are going to buy out the rest of the set to sell at retail price. I'd be really unhappy with this as I was planning on joining the GB but was in no hurry since it was specifically stated there was no end date. I think that would be really uncool strategy so I'm hoping that isn't the case.
But I don't see much conflict here. Most people are going to prefer one over the other, and not struggle between deciding which one of the two they'd want to buy.
Edit: their news now has this:
"NECRO sets are being invoiced, so please be on a look out for that. If you had a DMKEY order, did not get an invoice order from us, please let us know to be entered for the special raffle :)"
So I'm definitely getting concerned that the GB is now effectively closed.
Any news on the refund?I really don't know why they're waiting to open up the public page for Necro.... unless they don't want it to interfere with Honeywell buying at the moment.The only reason I can see is because they are going to buy out the rest of the set to sell at retail price. I'd be really unhappy with this as I was planning on joining the GB but was in no hurry since it was specifically stated there was no end date. I think that would be really uncool strategy so I'm hoping that isn't the case.
But I don't see much conflict here. Most people are going to prefer one over the other, and not struggle between deciding which one of the two they'd want to buy.
Edit: their news now has this:
"NECRO sets are being invoiced, so please be on a look out for that. If you had a DMKEY order, did not get an invoice order from us, please let us know to be entered for the special raffle :)"
So I'm definitely getting concerned that the GB is now effectively closed.
Just made it completely clear with Sheraton, and there WILL be a normal group buy, he's just letting my customers get in first for their chance at a Fugu. Regular GB opens soon
I really don't know why they're waiting to open up the public page for Necro.... unless they don't want it to interfere with Honeywell buying at the moment.The only reason I can see is because they are going to buy out the rest of the set to sell at retail price. I'd be really unhappy with this as I was planning on joining the GB but was in no hurry since it was specifically stated there was no end date. I think that would be really uncool strategy so I'm hoping that isn't the case.
But I don't see much conflict here. Most people are going to prefer one over the other, and not struggle between deciding which one of the two they'd want to buy.
Edit: their news now has this:
"NECRO sets are being invoiced, so please be on a look out for that. If you had a DMKEY order, did not get an invoice order from us, please let us know to be entered for the special raffle :)"
So I'm definitely getting concerned that the GB is now effectively closed.
Just made it completely clear with Sheraton, and there WILL be a normal group buy, he's just letting my customers get in first for their chance at a Fugu. Regular GB opens soon
Any news on the refund?I really don't know why they're waiting to open up the public page for Necro.... unless they don't want it to interfere with Honeywell buying at the moment.The only reason I can see is because they are going to buy out the rest of the set to sell at retail price. I'd be really unhappy with this as I was planning on joining the GB but was in no hurry since it was specifically stated there was no end date. I think that would be really uncool strategy so I'm hoping that isn't the case.
But I don't see much conflict here. Most people are going to prefer one over the other, and not struggle between deciding which one of the two they'd want to buy.
Edit: their news now has this:
"NECRO sets are being invoiced, so please be on a look out for that. If you had a DMKEY order, did not get an invoice order from us, please let us know to be entered for the special raffle :)"
So I'm definitely getting concerned that the GB is now effectively closed.
Just made it completely clear with Sheraton, and there WILL be a normal group buy, he's just letting my customers get in first for their chance at a Fugu. Regular GB opens soon
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That's great news, thanks Brazzers!I really don't know why they're waiting to open up the public page for Necro.... unless they don't want it to interfere with Honeywell buying at the moment.The only reason I can see is because they are going to buy out the rest of the set to sell at retail price. I'd be really unhappy with this as I was planning on joining the GB but was in no hurry since it was specifically stated there was no end date. I think that would be really uncool strategy so I'm hoping that isn't the case.
But I don't see much conflict here. Most people are going to prefer one over the other, and not struggle between deciding which one of the two they'd want to buy.
Edit: their news now has this:
"NECRO sets are being invoiced, so please be on a look out for that. If you had a DMKEY order, did not get an invoice order from us, please let us know to be entered for the special raffle :)"
So I'm definitely getting concerned that the GB is now effectively closed.
Just made it completely clear with Sheraton, and there WILL be a normal group buy, he's just letting my customers get in first for their chance at a Fugu. Regular GB opens soon
My refund was already posted back to my CC. Might be up to banks/credit card at this point
Anyone know a nice 60% case to match this set?
Preferably aluminum. Black is too harsh, silver too plain, ... Ah, first world problems.
Just got an email saying that the refund could not be completed and was cancelled.
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Just got an email saying that the refund could not be completed and was cancelled.
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Same here
Interesting line of thought there.
Now onto picking a wood stain. ^-^
Just received my refund on PayPal. Thanks Jessica for taking the time to sort that out!Nice still nothing here
Hi!! Just wondering if there is any update on the GB for US market. Thanks!!
still nothing for me either. bummer, just waiting to get the refund to join in again
Hello, lots to say.
All funds are properly available and easily handled.
Refunds will be going out over the next day or so. Everything should go smoothly, but if any snags come about, I'll be sure to contact people indivdually
Thanks for the regular updates on the situation :)
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Any further update on this following the holiday weekend in US?Finally able to get GH to load after like 2-3 days.
I decided to not join this drop b/c I went with a different, non-matching case color, but my priorities for what I want have changed and I was considering picking this up: after the paypal confusion, this drop/GB is still a go, correct?
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little insta image should anyone wanna help promote the GB on oco
<3
Oco has the rest of these sets right? I'm definitely gonna get one down the line.
Hi, awesome set! I was wondering for how much longer this would be available to buy and if I’m in Australia would I still order from originative? Or would I go through zFrontier?
Any updates on the samples Jessica?
This buy was going to end on the 6th initially. But are you going to keep it going for now?
Perhaps until you're satisfied with the color samples, Brazzers?
This buy was going to end on the 6th initially. But are you going to keep it going for now?
Perhaps until you're satisfied with the color samples, Brazzers?
I am not running the buy, that is entirely up to Sheraton.
I've been working on the colours with GMK behind the scenes for the last 3 weeks
All right, as both mykeyboard.eu and originative still have it up as a pre-order, but wrote that orders to GMK would be sent the 6th of July - I asked mykeyboard.eu about it.
They said that they will purchase a certain amount of sets regardless of how many pre-order, so as long as the pre-order button is up, you will receive a set. That's reassuring, I was a bit worried my specific order did not make it to GMK as I ordered the 8th, but they let me know that I will get my set once they receive the stock. I did not inquire originative about it, but as it's coordinated with mykeyboard.eu I am guessing it's the same over there, as they also front a pre-order button.
All right, as both mykeyboard.eu and originative still have it up as a pre-order, but wrote that orders to GMK would be sent the 6th of July - I asked mykeyboard.eu about it.
They said that they will purchase a certain amount of sets regardless of how many pre-order, so as long as the pre-order button is up, you will receive a set. That's reassuring, I was a bit worried my specific order did not make it to GMK as I ordered the 8th, but they let me know that I will get my set once they receive the stock. I did not inquire originative about it, but as it's coordinated with mykeyboard.eu I am guessing it's the same over there, as they also front a pre-order button.
All right, as both mykeyboard.eu and originative still have it up as a pre-order, but wrote that orders to GMK would be sent the 6th of July - I asked mykeyboard.eu about it.
They said that they will purchase a certain amount of sets regardless of how many pre-order, so as long as the pre-order button is up, you will receive a set. That's reassuring, I was a bit worried my specific order did not make it to GMK as I ordered the 8th, but they let me know that I will get my set once they receive the stock. I did not inquire originative about it, but as it's coordinated with mykeyboard.eu I am guessing it's the same over there, as they also front a pre-order button.
Oco are doing basically the same thing.
Let's say Oco orders 250 sets, they will keep the orders open until they sell 250 sets, but the orders have been placed with GMK so now it's the waiting game
All right, as both mykeyboard.eu and originative still have it up as a pre-order, but wrote that orders to GMK would be sent the 6th of July - I asked mykeyboard.eu about it.
They said that they will purchase a certain amount of sets regardless of how many pre-order, so as long as the pre-order button is up, you will receive a set. That's reassuring, I was a bit worried my specific order did not make it to GMK as I ordered the 8th, but they let me know that I will get my set once they receive the stock. I did not inquire originative about it, but as it's coordinated with mykeyboard.eu I am guessing it's the same over there, as they also front a pre-order button.
Oco are doing basically the same thing.
Let's say Oco orders 250 sets, they will keep the orders open until they sell 250 sets, but the orders have been placed with GMK so now it's the waiting game
Yep yep! Really excited! How are things on your end? Nearing a satisfying sample result?
Wow, I feel like such a kid counting down the days - but here we are. 10 days down, any news? :D Perhaps next week if not yet? I've not been this excited for some pieces of plastic in a while. :D
I wasn't able to follow the latest updates after merge kits, I would like to know if the date remains the same or will be postponed. Thank you in advance
KMK Labs.
I wasn't able to follow the latest updates after merge kits, I would like to know if the date remains the same or will be postponed. Thank you in advance
KMK Labs.
order placed with GMK, sets should be coming in the next 2-3 months i imagine
I wasn't able to follow the latest updates after merge kits, I would like to know if the date remains the same or will be postponed. Thank you in advance
KMK Labs.
order placed with GMK, sets should be coming in the next 2-3 months i imagine
Should we be worried that GMK got the order without finalized samples? :OI
Should we be worried that GMK got the order without finalized samples? :OI
That thought crossed my mind too, but I didn't want to be the one to say it. 😆
Should we be worried that GMK got the order without finalized samples? :OI
That thought crossed my mind too, but I didn't want to be the one to say it. 😆
For "small" vendors GMK won't do samples until an order is placed, like how Camping and Taro had to do. So for the most part unless you're doing a set through MD you won't see final samples until sometime after the order is placed.
How were they? :D
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Pictures of the caps in as best of lighting as I can get.
Upon initial inspection, the blue looked like what I wanted but I checked it out in multiple lightings and I've decided I'm gonna request a slight change in colour for the lighter blue.
Though, every other colour is spot on, and absolutely beautiful, especially in person. The green is fantastic, the gray is the slight tint of blue gray colour I wanted it to be and the dark blue is really good. Dark enough for really good contrast but not too dark that it just looks black
I'll hopefully have a good update soon of the new blue in a week or 2 hopefully
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/H2CMtnn.jpg)
Pictures of the caps in as best of lighting as I can get.
Upon initial inspection, the blue looked like what I wanted but I checked it out in multiple lightings and I've decided I'm gonna request a slight change in colour for the lighter blue.
Though, every other colour is spot on, and absolutely beautiful, especially in person. The green is fantastic, the gray is the slight tint of blue gray colour I wanted it to be and the dark blue is really good. Dark enough for really good contrast but not too dark that it just looks black
I'll hopefully have a good update soon of the new blue in a week or 2 hopefully
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/H2CMtnn.jpg)
Pictures of the caps in as best of lighting as I can get.
Upon initial inspection, the blue looked like what I wanted but I checked it out in multiple lightings and I've decided I'm gonna request a slight change in colour for the lighter blue.
Though, every other colour is spot on, and absolutely beautiful, especially in person. The green is fantastic, the gray is the slight tint of blue gray colour I wanted it to be and the dark blue is really good. Dark enough for really good contrast but not too dark that it just looks black
I'll hopefully have a good update soon of the new blue in a week or 2 hopefully
The blue looks off and throws off the entire color scheme imo.
I would say the gray and lighter blue colors are off, the gray could be due to lighting, though. The light blue is actually light green according to the renders, so it's even on the wrong color scale to begin with. The gray worries me, too, as currently (according to camera shots which I understand aren't 100% accurate) all the modifiers backgrounds are the wrong color.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gicLLHk.png)
Heh heh heh... ahhh... its probably waaaaay to late to request a 2.00 shift key, isnt it?😬😬😬 only a couple months late 😬😬😬
Hah... ahh hah... ahhhhhhh.
Are the artisans still happening? Or was the raffle already run?
Any updates?
Any updates?
Just got the tracking number from GMK for the new blue. I guess there were holidays in Germany so the already long wait time for the samples was just exacerbated by holidays.
I should have the new blue tomorrow, though!
..I really hope it's what I want.. But I do appreciate everyone's patience on this, and I hope you can all understand that I'm taking no shortcuts with this set
Any updates?
Just got the tracking number from GMK for the new blue. I guess there were holidays in Germany so the already long wait time for the samples was just exacerbated by holidays.
I should have the new blue tomorrow, though!
..I really hope it's what I want.. But I do appreciate everyone's patience on this, and I hope you can all understand that I'm taking no shortcuts with this set
I mean, the render does not even sport a blue color, but Ok. Let's hope for the best...
I mean, the render does not even sport a blue color, but Ok. Let's hope for the best...
I mean, the render does not even sport a blue color, but Ok. Let's hope for the best...
Sorry, what? There is a very definite blue in this set. It's used in the modifiers legends as well as accent keys with another, darker blue for legends on it.
jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs
jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs
Uhm, what? Just trying to assist in any way I can to ensure that me, and everyone else that purchased Necro, actually get a product that somewhat resembles what we imagined we were paying for.
Literally, are you color blind? It's way off. That's not nitpicking a few degrees of a color being off, it's the completely wrong scale.
Do these look comparable to you, am I really nitpicking? Left is the sample, right is the official HEX for the render.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gJofYvN.png)
This sole color really makes or breaks the set, it's the one point of contrast - getting it wrong would ruin the set, in my personal opinion. It really worries me that jessica, somehow in his/hers mind, is set on finding some sort of baby blue; to my understanding.
in his/hers mind
Gmk plum v2 lulcrazy to see this yet again.
Gmk plum v2 lulcrazy to see this yet again.
If you'd like to know the colour I have chosen for the latest batch of samples, I am using RAL 200 80 20 in the RAL Design catalog.
The closest hex value to that is #97D3D1, which is seen hereShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/N0PbGhk.png)
and for comparison, here is the colour used in the rendersShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/v0joHPn.png)
Is this satisfactory? I had no clue someone could be so comprehensively illiterate to not understand that my choice to use 'blue' is a general term, while still being articulate enough to express their concerns.
Also, get the **** out of here saying 'his/her' here; I am a woman. Use the right pronouns since you're so god damn concerned with using the right words.
I’m not defending homeboy in any way, but his behavior isn’t an excuse for you to belittle us.
jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs
Uhm, what? Just trying to assist in any way I can to ensure that me, and everyone else that purchased Necro, actually get a product that somewhat resembles what we imagined we were paying for.
Literally, are you color blind? It's way off. That's not nitpicking a few degrees of a color being off, it's the completely wrong scale.
Do these look comparable to you, am I really nitpicking? Left is the sample, right is the official HEX for the render.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gJofYvN.png)
This sole color really makes or breaks the set, it's the one point of contrast - getting it wrong would ruin the set, in my personal opinion. It really worries me that jessica, somehow in his/hers mind, is set on finding some sort of baby blue; to my understanding.
I got a bright, vibrant blue sample from GMK and turned it down because it was too blue. I had no clue that people (read: you) would obsess so heavily over word choice when the colour in the render is pretty obviously a greenish, blueish colour, hard to put a firm label on.
Plus, imagine me going around saying it's green, then you'd just be complaining that I'm not distinguishing it enough from the green of the alphas.
I know what colour it is, and I just describe it as blue because it's more blue than anything else in the set and my lord I thought that would be good enough.
Also, if you wanna get even more obnoxious, colours throughout languages are hard to clearly define too. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ) this video by Tom Scott. In the title is literally the word 'Grue', which covers this exact topic.
So if it pleases you, this set capitalises on green and gray, while also utilising grue to really add some pop to it.
If you'd like to know the colour I have chosen for the latest batch of samples, I am using RAL 200 80 20 in the RAL Design catalog.
The closest hex value to that is #97D3D1, which is seen hereShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/N0PbGhk.png)
and for comparison, here is the colour used in the rendersShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/v0joHPn.png)
Is this satisfactory? I had no clue someone could be so comprehensively illiterate to not understand that my choice to use 'blue' is a general term, while still being articulate enough to express their concerns.
Also, get the **** out of here saying 'his/her' here; I am a woman. Use the right pronouns since you're so god damn concerned with using the right words.
Renders can only do so much. You ought to just go nitpick at all the other keyset GBs. There's only so much color matching can do and do you seriously expect photos to reflect colors as-they-are? Of course OP will be the only person who knows what it is supposed to look like.jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs
Uhm, what? Just trying to assist in any way I can to ensure that me, and everyone else that purchased Necro, actually get a product that somewhat resembles what we imagined we were paying for.
Literally, are you color blind? It's way off. That's not nitpicking a few degrees of a color being off, it's the completely wrong scale.
Do these look comparable to you, am I really nitpicking? Left is the sample, right is the official HEX for the render.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gJofYvN.png)
This sole color really makes or breaks the set, it's the one point of contrast - getting it wrong would ruin the set, in my personal opinion. It really worries me that jessica, somehow in his/hers mind, is set on finding some sort of baby blue; to my understanding.
I got a bright, vibrant blue sample from GMK and turned it down because it was too blue. I had no clue that people (read: you) would obsess so heavily over word choice when the colour in the render is pretty obviously a greenish, blueish colour, hard to put a firm label on.
Plus, imagine me going around saying it's green, then you'd just be complaining that I'm not distinguishing it enough from the green of the alphas.
I know what colour it is, and I just describe it as blue because it's more blue than anything else in the set and my lord I thought that would be good enough.
Also, if you wanna get even more obnoxious, colours throughout languages are hard to clearly define too. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ) this video by Tom Scott. In the title is literally the word 'Grue', which covers this exact topic.
So if it pleases you, this set capitalises on green and gray, while also utilising grue to really add some pop to it.
If you'd like to know the colour I have chosen for the latest batch of samples, I am using RAL 200 80 20 in the RAL Design catalog.
The closest hex value to that is #97D3D1, which is seen hereShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/N0PbGhk.png)
and for comparison, here is the colour used in the rendersShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/v0joHPn.png)
Is this satisfactory? I had no clue someone could be so comprehensively illiterate to not understand that my choice to use 'blue' is a general term, while still being articulate enough to express their concerns.
Also, get the **** out of here saying 'his/her' here; I am a woman. Use the right pronouns since you're so god damn concerned with using the right words.
I was pretty clear in my previous posts that, you as the one running the GB and set, have to be aware of that I can only form an opinion based on what you present. You present inaccurate samples, but don't say that they are inaccurate - of course I will comment on that. Here's my quote:
"I hope you understand that I can only form an opinion based on the image posted by you. If you don't mention anything about it, such as "the gray came out a big X due to the lighting conditions" or something along those lines, then I am going to assume that you are satisfied with that purplish color."
You also said that the blue was close to perfect and you just want a slight change, that does not sound to me like you identified that you got a baby blue, when you should have gotten a desaturated cyan - it says that you are looking for another baby blue (nowhere do you clarify anything about that).
I did raise this in a different way before, but I was ignored - would it kill you to clarify what you mean and clear some worries from purchasers? I can tell you that within different communities where the set is discussed, I am far from alone in assuming/thinking the way I did/do - you are very heavily criticised within communities - especially given your track record.
Also, this just speaks volumes of how childish and incapable you are to run a set in my eyes:
"I frankly couldn't care any less what people think it should look like at this stage of development. I know what it's supposed to look like, no one else. "
What do you mean no one knows what it's supposed to look like? We have the original renders that we based our purchase on - how do we not know what it's supposed to look like? Next time you run a set, how about just leaving a blank page as a preview and tell people to buy, that way you truely are the only one that knows what it's supposed to look like and you can go wild with your "creative vision". This is childish on so many levels, can't believe you actually wrote that.
About your gender, I couldn't care less - obviously it's something that struck you and your defenders hard - while in my eyes I wasn't sure what you are and don't care, so I wrote he/she. I don't know any of your background, I'm new to the community and I see a handle name - that's it. Sorry if it struck you the wrong way, obviously you are very insecure about that part and I did not know - just know that I apologize and I did not mean to make it sound as an insult.
You should seriously reconsider the way you behave, like, what the ****.
TL;DR, let's hope the new sample turns out good.
Renders can only do so much. You ought to just go nitpick at all the other keyset GBs. There's only so much color matching can do and do you seriously expect photos to reflect colors as-they-are? Of course OP will be the only person who knows what it is supposed to look like.jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs
Uhm, what? Just trying to assist in any way I can to ensure that me, and everyone else that purchased Necro, actually get a product that somewhat resembles what we imagined we were paying for.
Literally, are you color blind? It's way off. That's not nitpicking a few degrees of a color being off, it's the completely wrong scale.
Do these look comparable to you, am I really nitpicking? Left is the sample, right is the official HEX for the render.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gJofYvN.png)
This sole color really makes or breaks the set, it's the one point of contrast - getting it wrong would ruin the set, in my personal opinion. It really worries me that jessica, somehow in his/hers mind, is set on finding some sort of baby blue; to my understanding.
I got a bright, vibrant blue sample from GMK and turned it down because it was too blue. I had no clue that people (read: you) would obsess so heavily over word choice when the colour in the render is pretty obviously a greenish, blueish colour, hard to put a firm label on.
Plus, imagine me going around saying it's green, then you'd just be complaining that I'm not distinguishing it enough from the green of the alphas.
I know what colour it is, and I just describe it as blue because it's more blue than anything else in the set and my lord I thought that would be good enough.
Also, if you wanna get even more obnoxious, colours throughout languages are hard to clearly define too. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ) this video by Tom Scott. In the title is literally the word 'Grue', which covers this exact topic.
So if it pleases you, this set capitalises on green and gray, while also utilising grue to really add some pop to it.
If you'd like to know the colour I have chosen for the latest batch of samples, I am using RAL 200 80 20 in the RAL Design catalog.
The closest hex value to that is #97D3D1, which is seen hereShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/N0PbGhk.png)
and for comparison, here is the colour used in the rendersShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/v0joHPn.png)
Is this satisfactory? I had no clue someone could be so comprehensively illiterate to not understand that my choice to use 'blue' is a general term, while still being articulate enough to express their concerns.
Also, get the **** out of here saying 'his/her' here; I am a woman. Use the right pronouns since you're so god damn concerned with using the right words.
I was pretty clear in my previous posts that, you as the one running the GB and set, have to be aware of that I can only form an opinion based on what you present. You present inaccurate samples, but don't say that they are inaccurate - of course I will comment on that. Here's my quote:
"I hope you understand that I can only form an opinion based on the image posted by you. If you don't mention anything about it, such as "the gray came out a big X due to the lighting conditions" or something along those lines, then I am going to assume that you are satisfied with that purplish color."
You also said that the blue was close to perfect and you just want a slight change, that does not sound to me like you identified that you got a baby blue, when you should have gotten a desaturated cyan - it says that you are looking for another baby blue (nowhere do you clarify anything about that).
I did raise this in a different way before, but I was ignored - would it kill you to clarify what you mean and clear some worries from purchasers? I can tell you that within different communities where the set is discussed, I am far from alone in assuming/thinking the way I did/do - you are very heavily criticised within communities - especially given your track record.
Also, this just speaks volumes of how childish and incapable you are to run a set in my eyes:
"I frankly couldn't care any less what people think it should look like at this stage of development. I know what it's supposed to look like, no one else. "
What do you mean no one knows what it's supposed to look like? We have the original renders that we based our purchase on - how do we not know what it's supposed to look like? Next time you run a set, how about just leaving a blank page as a preview and tell people to buy, that way you truely are the only one that knows what it's supposed to look like and you can go wild with your "creative vision". This is childish on so many levels, can't believe you actually wrote that.
About your gender, I couldn't care less - obviously it's something that struck you and your defenders hard - while in my eyes I wasn't sure what you are and don't care, so I wrote he/she. I don't know any of your background, I'm new to the community and I see a handle name - that's it. Sorry if it struck you the wrong way, obviously you are very insecure about that part and I did not know - just know that I apologize and I did not mean to make it sound as an insult.
You should seriously reconsider the way you behave, like, what the ****.
TL;DR, let's hope the new sample turns out good.
Hex color sampling that you did off a photo taken under imperfect lighting conditions... Try going to a printing company with that logic and see if they will laugh you out the door.Renders can only do so much. You ought to just go nitpick at all the other keyset GBs. There's only so much color matching can do and do you seriously expect photos to reflect colors as-they-are? Of course OP will be the only person who knows what it is supposed to look like.jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs
Uhm, what? Just trying to assist in any way I can to ensure that me, and everyone else that purchased Necro, actually get a product that somewhat resembles what we imagined we were paying for.
Literally, are you color blind? It's way off. That's not nitpicking a few degrees of a color being off, it's the completely wrong scale.
Do these look comparable to you, am I really nitpicking? Left is the sample, right is the official HEX for the render.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gJofYvN.png)
This sole color really makes or breaks the set, it's the one point of contrast - getting it wrong would ruin the set, in my personal opinion. It really worries me that jessica, somehow in his/hers mind, is set on finding some sort of baby blue; to my understanding.
I got a bright, vibrant blue sample from GMK and turned it down because it was too blue. I had no clue that people (read: you) would obsess so heavily over word choice when the colour in the render is pretty obviously a greenish, blueish colour, hard to put a firm label on.
Plus, imagine me going around saying it's green, then you'd just be complaining that I'm not distinguishing it enough from the green of the alphas.
I know what colour it is, and I just describe it as blue because it's more blue than anything else in the set and my lord I thought that would be good enough.
Also, if you wanna get even more obnoxious, colours throughout languages are hard to clearly define too. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ) this video by Tom Scott. In the title is literally the word 'Grue', which covers this exact topic.
So if it pleases you, this set capitalises on green and gray, while also utilising grue to really add some pop to it.
If you'd like to know the colour I have chosen for the latest batch of samples, I am using RAL 200 80 20 in the RAL Design catalog.
The closest hex value to that is #97D3D1, which is seen hereShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/N0PbGhk.png)
and for comparison, here is the colour used in the rendersShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/v0joHPn.png)
Is this satisfactory? I had no clue someone could be so comprehensively illiterate to not understand that my choice to use 'blue' is a general term, while still being articulate enough to express their concerns.
Also, get the **** out of here saying 'his/her' here; I am a woman. Use the right pronouns since you're so god damn concerned with using the right words.
I was pretty clear in my previous posts that, you as the one running the GB and set, have to be aware of that I can only form an opinion based on what you present. You present inaccurate samples, but don't say that they are inaccurate - of course I will comment on that. Here's my quote:
"I hope you understand that I can only form an opinion based on the image posted by you. If you don't mention anything about it, such as "the gray came out a big X due to the lighting conditions" or something along those lines, then I am going to assume that you are satisfied with that purplish color."
You also said that the blue was close to perfect and you just want a slight change, that does not sound to me like you identified that you got a baby blue, when you should have gotten a desaturated cyan - it says that you are looking for another baby blue (nowhere do you clarify anything about that).
I did raise this in a different way before, but I was ignored - would it kill you to clarify what you mean and clear some worries from purchasers? I can tell you that within different communities where the set is discussed, I am far from alone in assuming/thinking the way I did/do - you are very heavily criticised within communities - especially given your track record.
Also, this just speaks volumes of how childish and incapable you are to run a set in my eyes:
"I frankly couldn't care any less what people think it should look like at this stage of development. I know what it's supposed to look like, no one else. "
What do you mean no one knows what it's supposed to look like? We have the original renders that we based our purchase on - how do we not know what it's supposed to look like? Next time you run a set, how about just leaving a blank page as a preview and tell people to buy, that way you truely are the only one that knows what it's supposed to look like and you can go wild with your "creative vision". This is childish on so many levels, can't believe you actually wrote that.
About your gender, I couldn't care less - obviously it's something that struck you and your defenders hard - while in my eyes I wasn't sure what you are and don't care, so I wrote he/she. I don't know any of your background, I'm new to the community and I see a handle name - that's it. Sorry if it struck you the wrong way, obviously you are very insecure about that part and I did not know - just know that I apologize and I did not mean to make it sound as an insult.
You should seriously reconsider the way you behave, like, what the ****.
TL;DR, let's hope the new sample turns out good.
I mean sure, do you happen to know another keyset being ran right now that advertises a black, but the sample turned out to be white?
Of course I am aware that I can't base anything off of photographs, or trust that my screen will present accurate colors - what I can trust is hex color sampling that clearly shows that they're not even close to each other - I can tell the different in a text based format without even comparing the actual colors to know that it's off.
Luckily, jessica clarified that they are indeed looking for a sample that matches the render, and that eases my mind. The problem is the attitude and the way they go about handling this, to me.
Hex color sampling that you did off a photo taken under imperfect lighting conditions... Try going to a printing company with that logic and see if they will laugh you out the door.Renders can only do so much. You ought to just go nitpick at all the other keyset GBs. There's only so much color matching can do and do you seriously expect photos to reflect colors as-they-are? Of course OP will be the only person who knows what it is supposed to look like.jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs
Uhm, what? Just trying to assist in any way I can to ensure that me, and everyone else that purchased Necro, actually get a product that somewhat resembles what we imagined we were paying for.
Literally, are you color blind? It's way off. That's not nitpicking a few degrees of a color being off, it's the completely wrong scale.
Do these look comparable to you, am I really nitpicking? Left is the sample, right is the official HEX for the render.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gJofYvN.png)
This sole color really makes or breaks the set, it's the one point of contrast - getting it wrong would ruin the set, in my personal opinion. It really worries me that jessica, somehow in his/hers mind, is set on finding some sort of baby blue; to my understanding.
I got a bright, vibrant blue sample from GMK and turned it down because it was too blue. I had no clue that people (read: you) would obsess so heavily over word choice when the colour in the render is pretty obviously a greenish, blueish colour, hard to put a firm label on.
Plus, imagine me going around saying it's green, then you'd just be complaining that I'm not distinguishing it enough from the green of the alphas.
I know what colour it is, and I just describe it as blue because it's more blue than anything else in the set and my lord I thought that would be good enough.
Also, if you wanna get even more obnoxious, colours throughout languages are hard to clearly define too. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ) this video by Tom Scott. In the title is literally the word 'Grue', which covers this exact topic.
So if it pleases you, this set capitalises on green and gray, while also utilising grue to really add some pop to it.
If you'd like to know the colour I have chosen for the latest batch of samples, I am using RAL 200 80 20 in the RAL Design catalog.
The closest hex value to that is #97D3D1, which is seen hereShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/N0PbGhk.png)
and for comparison, here is the colour used in the rendersShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/v0joHPn.png)
Is this satisfactory? I had no clue someone could be so comprehensively illiterate to not understand that my choice to use 'blue' is a general term, while still being articulate enough to express their concerns.
Also, get the **** out of here saying 'his/her' here; I am a woman. Use the right pronouns since you're so god damn concerned with using the right words.
I was pretty clear in my previous posts that, you as the one running the GB and set, have to be aware of that I can only form an opinion based on what you present. You present inaccurate samples, but don't say that they are inaccurate - of course I will comment on that. Here's my quote:
"I hope you understand that I can only form an opinion based on the image posted by you. If you don't mention anything about it, such as "the gray came out a big X due to the lighting conditions" or something along those lines, then I am going to assume that you are satisfied with that purplish color."
You also said that the blue was close to perfect and you just want a slight change, that does not sound to me like you identified that you got a baby blue, when you should have gotten a desaturated cyan - it says that you are looking for another baby blue (nowhere do you clarify anything about that).
I did raise this in a different way before, but I was ignored - would it kill you to clarify what you mean and clear some worries from purchasers? I can tell you that within different communities where the set is discussed, I am far from alone in assuming/thinking the way I did/do - you are very heavily criticised within communities - especially given your track record.
Also, this just speaks volumes of how childish and incapable you are to run a set in my eyes:
"I frankly couldn't care any less what people think it should look like at this stage of development. I know what it's supposed to look like, no one else. "
What do you mean no one knows what it's supposed to look like? We have the original renders that we based our purchase on - how do we not know what it's supposed to look like? Next time you run a set, how about just leaving a blank page as a preview and tell people to buy, that way you truely are the only one that knows what it's supposed to look like and you can go wild with your "creative vision". This is childish on so many levels, can't believe you actually wrote that.
About your gender, I couldn't care less - obviously it's something that struck you and your defenders hard - while in my eyes I wasn't sure what you are and don't care, so I wrote he/she. I don't know any of your background, I'm new to the community and I see a handle name - that's it. Sorry if it struck you the wrong way, obviously you are very insecure about that part and I did not know - just know that I apologize and I did not mean to make it sound as an insult.
You should seriously reconsider the way you behave, like, what the ****.
TL;DR, let's hope the new sample turns out good.
I mean sure, do you happen to know another keyset being ran right now that advertises a black, but the sample turned out to be white?
Of course I am aware that I can't base anything off of photographs, or trust that my screen will present accurate colors - what I can trust is hex color sampling that clearly shows that they're not even close to each other - I can tell the different in a text based format without even comparing the actual colors to know that it's off.
Luckily, jessica clarified that they are indeed looking for a sample that matches the render, and that eases my mind. The problem is the attitude and the way they go about handling this, to me.
Hex color sampling that you did off a photo taken under imperfect lighting conditions... Try going to a printing company with that logic and see if they will laugh you out the door.Renders can only do so much. You ought to just go nitpick at all the other keyset GBs. There's only so much color matching can do and do you seriously expect photos to reflect colors as-they-are? Of course OP will be the only person who knows what it is supposed to look like.jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs
Uhm, what? Just trying to assist in any way I can to ensure that me, and everyone else that purchased Necro, actually get a product that somewhat resembles what we imagined we were paying for.
Literally, are you color blind? It's way off. That's not nitpicking a few degrees of a color being off, it's the completely wrong scale.
Do these look comparable to you, am I really nitpicking? Left is the sample, right is the official HEX for the render.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gJofYvN.png)
This sole color really makes or breaks the set, it's the one point of contrast - getting it wrong would ruin the set, in my personal opinion. It really worries me that jessica, somehow in his/hers mind, is set on finding some sort of baby blue; to my understanding.
I got a bright, vibrant blue sample from GMK and turned it down because it was too blue. I had no clue that people (read: you) would obsess so heavily over word choice when the colour in the render is pretty obviously a greenish, blueish colour, hard to put a firm label on.
Plus, imagine me going around saying it's green, then you'd just be complaining that I'm not distinguishing it enough from the green of the alphas.
I know what colour it is, and I just describe it as blue because it's more blue than anything else in the set and my lord I thought that would be good enough.
Also, if you wanna get even more obnoxious, colours throughout languages are hard to clearly define too. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ) this video by Tom Scott. In the title is literally the word 'Grue', which covers this exact topic.
So if it pleases you, this set capitalises on green and gray, while also utilising grue to really add some pop to it.
If you'd like to know the colour I have chosen for the latest batch of samples, I am using RAL 200 80 20 in the RAL Design catalog.
The closest hex value to that is #97D3D1, which is seen hereShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/N0PbGhk.png)
and for comparison, here is the colour used in the rendersShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/v0joHPn.png)
Is this satisfactory? I had no clue someone could be so comprehensively illiterate to not understand that my choice to use 'blue' is a general term, while still being articulate enough to express their concerns.
Also, get the **** out of here saying 'his/her' here; I am a woman. Use the right pronouns since you're so god damn concerned with using the right words.
I was pretty clear in my previous posts that, you as the one running the GB and set, have to be aware of that I can only form an opinion based on what you present. You present inaccurate samples, but don't say that they are inaccurate - of course I will comment on that. Here's my quote:
"I hope you understand that I can only form an opinion based on the image posted by you. If you don't mention anything about it, such as "the gray came out a big X due to the lighting conditions" or something along those lines, then I am going to assume that you are satisfied with that purplish color."
You also said that the blue was close to perfect and you just want a slight change, that does not sound to me like you identified that you got a baby blue, when you should have gotten a desaturated cyan - it says that you are looking for another baby blue (nowhere do you clarify anything about that).
I did raise this in a different way before, but I was ignored - would it kill you to clarify what you mean and clear some worries from purchasers? I can tell you that within different communities where the set is discussed, I am far from alone in assuming/thinking the way I did/do - you are very heavily criticised within communities - especially given your track record.
Also, this just speaks volumes of how childish and incapable you are to run a set in my eyes:
"I frankly couldn't care any less what people think it should look like at this stage of development. I know what it's supposed to look like, no one else. "
What do you mean no one knows what it's supposed to look like? We have the original renders that we based our purchase on - how do we not know what it's supposed to look like? Next time you run a set, how about just leaving a blank page as a preview and tell people to buy, that way you truely are the only one that knows what it's supposed to look like and you can go wild with your "creative vision". This is childish on so many levels, can't believe you actually wrote that.
About your gender, I couldn't care less - obviously it's something that struck you and your defenders hard - while in my eyes I wasn't sure what you are and don't care, so I wrote he/she. I don't know any of your background, I'm new to the community and I see a handle name - that's it. Sorry if it struck you the wrong way, obviously you are very insecure about that part and I did not know - just know that I apologize and I did not mean to make it sound as an insult.
You should seriously reconsider the way you behave, like, what the ****.
TL;DR, let's hope the new sample turns out good.
I mean sure, do you happen to know another keyset being ran right now that advertises a black, but the sample turned out to be white?
Of course I am aware that I can't base anything off of photographs, or trust that my screen will present accurate colors - what I can trust is hex color sampling that clearly shows that they're not even close to each other - I can tell the different in a text based format without even comparing the actual colors to know that it's off.
Luckily, jessica clarified that they are indeed looking for a sample that matches the render, and that eases my mind. The problem is the attitude and the way they go about handling this, to me.
Do you even read? Isn't this exactly covered by what I wrote in my previous posts? Jessica chose to share the samples with a color taken, in imperfect lighting conditions - and said NOTHING about it misrepresenting what this person was after. Of course I will base my opinion on that, what else? What's the point of even sharing then? I know it's a dilemma where if nothing is shared, people will be worried/impatient - share and people will criticise like I did - but jessica did not even try to circumvent it by saying "oh yeah, actually it does look a bit different in real life, these are not accurate. I am looking for X by doing X" - UNTIL AFTER I RAISED IT.
I suggest you read all my previous posts before replying to me again.
To avoid the quote chain I'll reply this way.
"Nowhere did she state that she was satisfied with the colors"
Then, what is this? For example the gray presented was way off, and it wasn't until I raised the question that she said that the photo actually misrepresents it.
By Jessica: "Though, every other colour is spot on, and absolutely beautiful"
The only raised inaccuracy is for the blue, which isn't even supposed to be light blue to begin with as I mentioned above:
"I'm gonna request a slight change in colour for the lighter blue"
A slight change in colour does not equal switching color scale completely, which is what is required - is it wrong of me to react and raise concerns?
It's one thing not claiming that it's perfect, but not raising imperfections is even worse - that leads users to assume that it is in fact accurate; Jessica even wrote lines such as "as best of lighting as I can get"
This could all have been avoided by better wording and feedback handling by Jessica. Jessica does not seem to understand that this whole situation was given room to bloom due to the person posting inaccurate photos - posting samples in very misrepresenting lighting conditions is asking for trouble. I can understand it to satisfy people looking for updates, but be very clear with disclaimers.
Jessica only cleared up my worries AFTER I raised the issues, which was even ignored for a good few weeks until now. I agree that now we seem to be back on track and I can feel safe, but why even give this unfortunate series of events to even become a situation to begin with?
Also, people thinking that I'm overreacting or blowing this out of porportion, did you even purchase the set? I doubt most of you did, since you apparently do not seem to care at all about the final product or have a care in the world for the "problems" along the way.
To avoid the quote chain I'll reply this way.
"Nowhere did she state that she was satisfied with the colors"
Then, what is this? For example the gray presented was way off, and it wasn't until I raised the question that she said that the photo actually misrepresents it.
By Jessica: "Though, every other colour is spot on, and absolutely beautiful"
The only raised inaccuracy is for the blue, which isn't even supposed to be light blue to begin with as I mentioned above:
"I'm gonna request a slight change in colour for the lighter blue"
A slight change in colour does not equal switching color scale completely, which is what is required - is it wrong of me to react and raise concerns?
It's one thing not claiming that it's perfect, but not raising imperfections is even worse - that leads users to assume that it is in fact accurate; Jessica even wrote lines such as "as best of lighting as I can get"
This could all have been avoided by better wording and feedback handling by Jessica. Jessica does not seem to understand that this whole situation was given room to bloom due to the person posting inaccurate photos - posting samples in very misrepresenting lighting conditions is asking for trouble. I can understand it to satisfy people looking for updates, but be very clear with disclaimers.
Jessica only cleared up my worries AFTER I raised the issues, which was even ignored for a good few weeks until now. I agree that now we seem to be back on track and I can feel safe, but why even give this unfortunate series of events to even become a situation to begin with?
Also, people thinking that I'm overreacting or blowing this out of porportion, did you even purchase the set? I doubt most of you did, since you apparently do not seem to care at all about the final product or have a care in the world for the "problems" along the way.
Oh we do care. We just place our trust in the GB runner that she knows what she's doing and we let them do their jobs. After all, GMK Plum turned out alright after 18 months in IC so you can be pretty assured that jessica will be doing all she can in her power to ensure that the colors are as accurate as possible.
To avoid the quote chain I'll reply this way.
"Nowhere did she state that she was satisfied with the colors"
Then, what is this? For example the gray presented was way off, and it wasn't until I raised the question that she said that the photo actually misrepresents it.
By Jessica: "Though, every other colour is spot on, and absolutely beautiful"
The only raised inaccuracy is for the blue, which isn't even supposed to be light blue to begin with as I mentioned above:
"I'm gonna request a slight change in colour for the lighter blue"
A slight change in colour does not equal switching color scale completely, which is what is required - is it wrong of me to react and raise concerns?
It's one thing not claiming that it's perfect, but not raising imperfections is even worse - that leads users to assume that it is in fact accurate; Jessica even wrote lines such as "as best of lighting as I can get"
This could all have been avoided by better wording and feedback handling by Jessica. Jessica does not seem to understand that this whole situation was given room to bloom due to the person posting inaccurate photos - posting samples in very misrepresenting lighting conditions is asking for trouble. I can understand it to satisfy people looking for updates, but be very clear with disclaimers.
Jessica only cleared up my worries AFTER I raised the issues, which was even ignored for a good few weeks until now. I agree that now we seem to be back on track and I can feel safe, but why even give this unfortunate series of events to even become a situation to begin with?
Also, people thinking that I'm overreacting or blowing this out of porportion, did you even purchase the set? I doubt most of you did, since you apparently do not seem to care at all about the final product or have a care in the world for the "problems" along the way.
Oh we do care. We just place our trust in the GB runner that she knows what she's doing and we let them do their jobs. After all, GMK Plum turned out alright after 18 months in IC so you can be pretty assured that jessica will be doing all she can in her power to ensure that the colors are as accurate as possible.
Uhm, so you mean GMK Plum was a success and the final product represented the renders? Literally what Jessica, in this thread just above in a few posts, admitted they ****ed up?
Well, I now understand why you reply the way you do.
Uhm, so you mean GMK Plum was a success and the final product represented the renders? Literally what Jessica, in this thread just above in a few posts, admitted they ****ed up?
Well, I now understand why you reply the way you do.
Uhm, so you mean GMK Plum was a success and the final product represented the renders? Literally what Jessica, in this thread just above in a few posts, admitted they ****ed up?
Well, I now understand why you reply the way you do.
You really are arguing just to argue at this point. She's cleared things up in terms of this GB already, and she has already stated what she needed to for Plum. If you don't have faith in her then you can easily request a refund or flip the set. And what does gender have anything to do with our hobby?
At this point you're just throwing a tantrum.
Uhm, so you mean GMK Plum was a success and the final product represented the renders? Literally what Jessica, in this thread just above in a few posts, admitted they ****ed up?
Well, I now understand why you reply the way you do.
You really are arguing just to argue at this point. She's cleared things up in terms of this GB already, and she has already stated what she needed to for Plum. If you don't have faith in her then you can easily request a refund or flip the set. And what does gender have anything to do with our hobby?
At this point you're just throwing a tantrum.
As a Swede (who happens to know that Emir is Swedish as we're in the same discord) it probably makes sense to explain that "he/she" is one of the the correct way to address someone if you don't want to assume gender in Sweden. We simply doesn't have any word for the singular "they" or "their".
So you're basically mistaking his politeness as a personal attack, which probably is the opposite of what he meant, hence him not understanding why you're making such a fuzz over it.
(EDIT: Sorry for continuing the off-topic:ness, btw. But I just couldn't just let it slide as I found it sad how the situation probably arose from a misunderstanding/language barrier issue.)
Uhm, so you mean GMK Plum was a success and the final product represented the renders? Literally what Jessica, in this thread just above in a few posts, admitted they ****ed up?
Well, I now understand why you reply the way you do.
You really are arguing just to argue at this point. She's cleared things up in terms of this GB already, and she has already stated what she needed to for Plum. If you don't have faith in her then you can easily request a refund or flip the set. And what does gender have anything to do with our hobby?
At this point you're just throwing a tantrum.
As a Swede (who happens to know that Emir is Swedish as we're in the same discord) it probably makes sense to explain that "he/she" is one of the the correct way to address someone if you don't want to assume gender in Sweden. We simply doesn't have any word for the singular "they" or "their".
So you're basically mistaking his politeness as a personal attack, which probably is the opposite of what he meant, hence him not understanding why you're making such a fuzz over it.
(EDIT: Sorry for continuing the off-topic:ness, btw. But I just couldn't just let it slide as I found it sad how the situation probably arose from a misunderstanding/language barrier issue.)
Speaking of assuming things, I should add in the most important thing here: freaking out over colors in images taken with (what was likely) a cell phone camera, on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color is completely stupid.
We have absolutely no idea what those colors look like in real life and are probably doing worse than guessing. Unless you have a properly white-balanced shot and you are looking at it on a color calibrated screen, reserve judgement. THAT is why we put trust in the GB runner. They get to look at it and decide if it matches their vision of the project (and potentially the pantone colors they have on hand).
/rant about digital photography and reproduction
And in case you feel like trying to throw an appeal to authority or false premise into your argument, I AM in on the buy, so of course I care. I would suspect that most people in this thread are in on the buy. Why else waste time posting here?
Speaking of assuming things, I should add in the most important thing here: freaking out over colors in images taken with (what was likely) a cell phone camera, on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color is completely stupid.
We have absolutely no idea what those colors look like in real life and are probably doing worse than guessing. Unless you have a properly white-balanced shot and you are looking at it on a color calibrated screen, reserve judgement. THAT is why we put trust in the GB runner. They get to look at it and decide if it matches their vision of the project (and potentially the pantone colors they have on hand).
Uhm, so you mean GMK Plum was a success and the final product represented the renders? Literally what Jessica, in this thread just above in a few posts, admitted they ****ed up?
Well, I now understand why you reply the way you do.
You really are arguing just to argue at this point. She's cleared things up in terms of this GB already, and she has already stated what she needed to for Plum. If you don't have faith in her then you can easily request a refund or flip the set. And what does gender have anything to do with our hobby?
At this point you're just throwing a tantrum.
As a Swede (who happens to know that Emir is Swedish as we're in the same discord) it probably makes sense to explain that "he/she" is one of the the correct way to address someone if you don't want to assume gender in Sweden. We simply doesn't have any word for the singular "they" or "their".
So you're basically mistaking his politeness as a personal attack, which probably is the opposite of what he meant, hence him not understanding why you're making such a fuzz over it.
(EDIT: Sorry for continuing the off-topic:ness, btw. But I just couldn't just let it slide as I found it sad how the situation probably arose from a misunderstanding/language barrier issue.)
Speaking of assuming things, I should add in the most important thing here: freaking out over colors in images taken with (what was likely) a cell phone camera, on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color is completely stupid.
We have absolutely no idea what those colors look like in real life and are probably doing worse than guessing. Unless you have a properly white-balanced shot and you are looking at it on a color calibrated screen, reserve judgement. THAT is why we put trust in the GB runner. They get to look at it and decide if it matches their vision of the project (and potentially the pantone colors they have on hand).
/rant about digital photography and reproduction
And in case you feel like trying to throw an appeal to authority or false premise into your argument, I AM in on the buy, so of course I care. I would suspect that most people in this thread are in on the buy. Why else waste time posting here?
I really told myself not to reply, but when people are this dense it's difficult to abstain.
"on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color"
You literally don't need a monitor with color, or a monitor at all for that matter, to sample hex and see that the values are SO off that it's on a completely different color scale. What are you even typing? As I wrote about 10 times now it feels like, OF COURSE I have an understanding for camera shots not being accurate, I'm not stupid - but ANYONE given the lighting conditions of that shot would be able to tell that it is enough correct to the point where you can CLEARLY see that the color is on the wrong scale.
Jessica did confirm that she is looking for a desaturated cyan which is indeed according to renders, so there's no point in replying to me any longer. However, I just wish people would understand that the lack of information at the point when samples were posted made me raise concerns. In my head, the concerns were justified, it's way off, and when Jessica types out "I'm looking for a different blue", then of course I replied in order to ensure that it's an actual desaturated cyan this person is after, and after being lynched for raising justified concerns, I did in fact get an answer.
I'm sad it had to go that far to get information that should've been present without anyone voicing their concerns.
Speaking of assuming things, I should add in the most important thing here: freaking out over colors in images taken with (what was likely) a cell phone camera, on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color is completely stupid.
We have absolutely no idea what those colors look like in real life and are probably doing worse than guessing. Unless you have a properly white-balanced shot and you are looking at it on a color calibrated screen, reserve judgement. THAT is why we put trust in the GB runner. They get to look at it and decide if it matches their vision of the project (and potentially the pantone colors they have on hand).
It doesn't really matter if your screen is calibrated or not. If the photo looks completely different in colors than the render (on the same screen) then there is an issue. What is otherwise the point in posting the photo if it is going to be so off?
Post an update with imperfect color(s) acknowledging they need changed and people overreact.
Go silent waiting for samples and people overreact.
This is exactly why I didn't post the first batch of GMK Taro samples.
:rolleyes:
Can everyone calm the f*** down ? If this turns out differently than any of you imagined, you can always sell it later on and make money.Speaking of assuming things, I should add in the most important thing here: freaking out over colors in images taken with (what was likely) a cell phone camera, on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color is completely stupid.
We have absolutely no idea what those colors look like in real life and are probably doing worse than guessing. Unless you have a properly white-balanced shot and you are looking at it on a color calibrated screen, reserve judgement. THAT is why we put trust in the GB runner. They get to look at it and decide if it matches their vision of the project (and potentially the pantone colors they have on hand).
It doesn't really matter if your screen is calibrated or not. If the photo looks completely different in colors than the render (on the same screen) then there is an issue. What is otherwise the point in posting the photo if it is going to be so off?
For all I know, the renders could be off. Jessica might have a cool or hot screen (for example) and that could have affected the renders. All I know is that until you have a verified "chain" of color balancing and calibration, arguing about colors is a little silly and all of us are making large assumptions.
As for why she posted them, it was probably to let people know that things are progressing and that she is fixing color samples to her design vision. Not all designers do this. I remember the exact same thing happening when Mito showed the various samples for Laser. In the end, he got it right, but not due to anyone over-analyzing his quickly taken pictures of the samples.
We can include ad hominem to the list of your logical fallacies. I tried to help and you called me names. Nice. Your "mathematical" comparison is a joke, when you have no idea of the white balancing on the shot. And no, I don't think that anyone can eyeball a shot and determine if something is accurate enough. Case and point: pictures of my Singa, in different light, neither are color accurate to what I see with my eyes. You tell me which is the accurate one.
Uhm, so you mean GMK Plum was a success and the final product represented the renders? Literally what Jessica, in this thread just above in a few posts, admitted they ****ed up?
Well, I now understand why you reply the way you do.
You really are arguing just to argue at this point. She's cleared things up in terms of this GB already, and she has already stated what she needed to for Plum. If you don't have faith in her then you can easily request a refund or flip the set. And what does gender have anything to do with our hobby?
At this point you're just throwing a tantrum.
As a Swede (who happens to know that Emir is Swedish as we're in the same discord) it probably makes sense to explain that "he/she" is one of the the correct way to address someone if you don't want to assume gender in Sweden. We simply doesn't have any word for the singular "they" or "their".
So you're basically mistaking his politeness as a personal attack, which probably is the opposite of what he meant, hence him not understanding why you're making such a fuzz over it.
(EDIT: Sorry for continuing the off-topic:ness, btw. But I just couldn't just let it slide as I found it sad how the situation probably arose from a misunderstanding/language barrier issue.)
Speaking of assuming things, I should add in the most important thing here: freaking out over colors in images taken with (what was likely) a cell phone camera, on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color is completely stupid.
We have absolutely no idea what those colors look like in real life and are probably doing worse than guessing. Unless you have a properly white-balanced shot and you are looking at it on a color calibrated screen, reserve judgement. THAT is why we put trust in the GB runner. They get to look at it and decide if it matches their vision of the project (and potentially the pantone colors they have on hand).
/rant about digital photography and reproduction
And in case you feel like trying to throw an appeal to authority or false premise into your argument, I AM in on the buy, so of course I care. I would suspect that most people in this thread are in on the buy. Why else waste time posting here?
I really told myself not to reply, but when people are this dense it's difficult to abstain.
"on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color"
You literally don't need a monitor with color, or a monitor at all for that matter, to sample hex and see that the values are SO off that it's on a completely different color scale. What are you even typing? As I wrote about 10 times now it feels like, OF COURSE I have an understanding for camera shots not being accurate, I'm not stupid - but ANYONE given the lighting conditions of that shot would be able to tell that it is enough correct to the point where you can CLEARLY see that the color is on the wrong scale.
Jessica did confirm that she is looking for a desaturated cyan which is indeed according to renders, so there's no point in replying to me any longer. However, I just wish people would understand that the lack of information at the point when samples were posted made me raise concerns. In my head, the concerns were justified, it's way off, and when Jessica types out "I'm looking for a different blue", then of course I replied in order to ensure that it's an actual desaturated cyan this person is after, and after being lynched for raising justified concerns, I did in fact get an answer.
I'm sad it had to go that far to get information that should've been present without anyone voicing their concerns.
We can include ad hominem to the list of your logical fallacies. I tried to help and you called me names. Nice. Your "mathematical" comparison is a joke, when you have no idea of the white balancing on the shot. And no, I don't think that anyone can eyeball a shot and determine if something is accurate enough. Case and point: pictures of my Singa, in different light, neither are color accurate to what I see with my eyes. You tell me which is the accurate one.
How to Stop Your Child's Whining
1. Refuse to let it bother you.
2. Make sure your child knows what "asking nicely" means.
3. Give praise where praise is due.
4. Hang in there.
Just ignore the lunatic. He doesn't know how to let go. :cool:
GB organizer tries to be transparent/give status updates and gets a mosquito trying to suck the life out of her lol.
Hope this doesnt encourage silence as the majority of us do appreciate the communication.
Are the artisans still happening? Or was the raffle already run?
Artisans are still happening yah!
I don't know if the raffle happened yet, but I think it did.
Oof. That green looks so good. All the drama aside, the green was what I was most "worried" about. If it turns out as good as it looks, I'm going to be pretty damn happy.
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Drama aside, hope this set is successful and Jess decides on an appropriate color. :thumb:
Drama aside, hope this set is successful and Jess decides on an appropriate color. :thumb:
Thank you :)
To give a little update, I wandered around 3 craft stores for about 4 hours last week to find something physical to send to GMK that was the right colour.
I just shipped it off yesterday, and hopefully I should have samples for it soon.
PS it's my birthday on the 2nd, buy yourself a set of Necro as a gift to me ;)
Drama aside, hope this set is successful and Jess decides on an appropriate color. :thumb:
Thank you :)
To give a little update, I wandered around 3 craft stores for about 4 hours last week to find something physical to send to GMK that was the right colour.
I just shipped it off yesterday, and hopefully I should have samples for it soon.
PS it's my birthday on the 2nd, buy yourself a set of Necro as a gift to me ;)
wait is the set still for sale?? I thought it was sold out until it ships! I might have to buy in assuming funds allow
To give a little update, I wandered around 3 craft stores for about 4 hours last week to find something physical to send to GMK that was the right colour.
I just shipped it off yesterday, and hopefully I should have samples for it soon.
PS it's my birthday on the 2nd, buy yourself a set of Necro as a gift to me ;)
To give a little update, I wandered around 3 craft stores for about 4 hours last week to find something physical to send to GMK that was the right colour.
I just shipped it off yesterday, and hopefully I should have samples for it soon.
PS it's my birthday on the 2nd, buy yourself a set of Necro as a gift to me ;)
Did you take a pic of the "thing you sent them" ? I wanna seeeee :P
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I wonder if this means that production has started. I tried messaging GMK as a response to the story, but not no reply.
mykeyboard.eu projects the estimated shipping to be mid November, while Originative projects December. I wonder what a realistic time frame would be at this time. Last we know is that Jessica is waiting for another round of samples for the accents, after sending a piece to GMK as reference?
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I wonder if this means that production has started. I tried messaging GMK as a response to the story, but not no reply.
mykeyboard.eu projects the estimated shipping to be mid November, while Originative projects December. I wonder what a realistic time frame would be at this time. Last we know is that Jessica is waiting for another round of samples for the accents, after sending a piece to GMK as reference?
Huh, I honestly thought I had updated you all here. My bad.
So I did get the final colours, production has started. I don't know the exacts but the latest update I have from GMK is "The production is planned to end on Oct 25", and then the usual probably 2-3 weeks for transit from Germany to US, then distro through Oco. So hopefully should be in everyone's hands by end of next month?? :D
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I wonder if this means that production has started. I tried messaging GMK as a response to the story, but not no reply.
mykeyboard.eu projects the estimated shipping to be mid November, while Originative projects December. I wonder what a realistic time frame would be at this time. Last we know is that Jessica is waiting for another round of samples for the accents, after sending a piece to GMK as reference?
Huh, I honestly thought I had updated you all here. My bad.
So I did get the final colours, production has started. I don't know the exacts but the latest update I have from GMK is "The production is planned to end on Oct 25", and then the usual probably 2-3 weeks for transit from Germany to US, then distro through Oco. So hopefully should be in everyone's hands by end of next month?? :D
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I wonder if this means that production has started. I tried messaging GMK as a response to the story, but not no reply.
mykeyboard.eu projects the estimated shipping to be mid November, while Originative projects December. I wonder what a realistic time frame would be at this time. Last we know is that Jessica is waiting for another round of samples for the accents, after sending a piece to GMK as reference?
Huh, I honestly thought I had updated you all here. My bad.
So I did get the final colours, production has started. I don't know the exacts but the latest update I have from GMK is "The production is planned to end on Oct 25", and then the usual probably 2-3 weeks for transit from Germany to US, then distro through Oco. So hopefully should be in everyone's hands by end of next month?? :D
Great news!
One question: Will the EU orders ship from oco or directly from mykeyboard.eu?
Would've been great to have them for halloween but can't complain though. Just eager. :-X
Oh here is the packaging :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/phtyUz4.png)
Original artwork by BroCaps, and the packaging and all further promotional artwork done by Bunnylake!
Oh here is the packaging :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/phtyUz4.png)
Original artwork by BroCaps, and the packaging and all further promotional artwork done by Bunnylake!
Oh here is the packaging :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/phtyUz4.png)
Original artwork by BroCaps, and the packaging and all further promotional artwork done by Bunnylake!
would be a sweet deskmat.Oh here is the packaging :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/phtyUz4.png)
Original artwork by BroCaps, and the packaging and all further promotional artwork done by Bunnylake!
Wow, love it! Mousemats when? :D
Uhhh... if people are interested in desk mats.. I have literally no idea who to talk to about that one.
Any suggestions? I know Godspeed, Serika, etc have had deskmats done by someone in the community I think who has done a great job, if anyone knows who that is, and I'd be more than happy to reach out to them and look into it!!
Uhhh... if people are interested in desk mats.. I have literally no idea who to talk to about that one.
Any suggestions? I know Godspeed, Serika, etc have had deskmats done by someone in the community I think who has done a great job, if anyone knows who that is, and I'd be more than happy to reach out to them and look into it!!
That actually would be me! I can’t take credit for all the designs, but I’ve done quite a few.
If you want to get deskpads going - shoot me an email - mike@novelkeys.xyz.
I would get onewould be a sweet deskmat.Oh here is the packaging :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/phtyUz4.png)
Original artwork by BroCaps, and the packaging and all further promotional artwork done by Bunnylake!
Wow, love it! Mousemats when? :D
Currently working on it.. I'll keep everyone posted
Oh look!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iqZcCOT.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/J6oRDEy.png)
Admittedly it is dificult to photograph the set, just thought it'd be interesting to make a new comparison. They seem to be on the right color scales now, so all deviations can be due to poor shots. I won't be critical just yet. Really excited to finally get the set and have a look for myself! :)
Also, the people PMing me about the instagram photos and how unsatisfied you are, why don't you voice your own opinions in the thread? I won't name anyone, but multiple people messaged me their opinions but want me to get all the pitchforks in their stead after seeing my last posts unfold. Stand for your own opinion instead, it's kind of pathetic that you try to hide behind me.
Oh look!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iqZcCOT.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/J6oRDEy.png)
Admittedly it is dificult to photograph the set, just thought it'd be interesting to make a new comparison. They seem to be on the right color scales now, so all deviations can be due to poor shots. I won't be critical just yet. Really excited to finally get the set and have a look for myself! :)
Also, the people PMing me about the instagram photos and how unsatisfied you are, why don't you voice your own opinions in the thread? I won't name anyone, but multiple people messaged me their opinions but want me to get all the pitchforks in their stead after seeing my last posts unfold. Stand for your own opinion instead, it's kind of pathetic that you try to hide behind me.
Damn I knew something didn't look quite right with the final color of the set when I first saw that picture from instagram. Your color comparison just confirmed my doubt. Oh boy...
Oh look!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iqZcCOT.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/J6oRDEy.png)
Admittedly it is dificult to photograph the set, just thought it'd be interesting to make a new comparison. They seem to be on the right color scales now, so all deviations can be due to poor shots. I won't be critical just yet. Really excited to finally get the set and have a look for myself! :)
Also, the people PMing me about the instagram photos and how unsatisfied you are, why don't you voice your own opinions in the thread? I won't name anyone, but multiple people messaged me their opinions but want me to get all the pitchforks in their stead after seeing my last posts unfold. Stand for your own opinion instead, it's kind of pathetic that you try to hide behind me.
I can confirm that while that pic looks nice, the colours are not accurate. They're all incredibly washed out, and the pic has a very cool colour temp. I actually turned on a blue light filter on my screen and the colours got a bit closer to reality.
IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself, and if you haven't got a set yourself, people with actually good camera setups will be taking pics
For the time being, just look at the pretty novelties
I can confirm that while that pic looks nice, the colours are not accurate. They're all incredibly washed out, and the pic has a very cool colour temp. I actually turned on a blue light filter on my screen and the colours got a bit closer to reality.
IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself, and if you haven't got a set yourself, people with actually good camera setups will be taking pics
For the time being, just look at the pretty novelties
Are you happy with the way they turned out? Looking forward to the set!
I am looking forward to having the set in hand. The Instagram out of focus caps look to have a hue more akin to what I am expecting rather than the baby blue.
Also based on some of the responses in this thread I am absolutely obligated to get the salty kit
IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself
IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself
Let's be careful with statements like this, as a GB runner you should be careful and take responsibility for promises like this. We saw what could happen when you casually type out something in this thread and then it turns in to the wild west in here. :D
With that said, you expect us to have the set in our hands within the next week? That's a bold statement. :)
I can confirm that while that pic looks nice, the colours are not accurate. They're all incredibly washed out, and the pic has a very cool colour temp. I actually turned on a blue light filter on my screen and the colours got a bit closer to reality.
IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself, and if you haven't got a set yourself, people with actually good camera setups will be taking pics
For the time being, just look at the pretty novelties
Are you happy with the way they turned out? Looking forward to the set!
100% satisfied with the colours of the set. Pictures downplay how pretty this set is.
Quick update:I cannot wait!
GMK has sent me my sample set, it will be here on the 14th according to FedEx tracking (which is always accurate, if not faster)
I'll try my best to get some pretty pics of it on my X60, since I think the set will look really nice on a dark gray alu board
Can we all agree not to freak out when she posts pics? :)
So Jessica, you're getting your hands on a set around the 14th. Originative still says mid-December. Would it be too ambitious to speculate when originative will get their hands on the sets to ship?
Highly interested in a desk mat matching the tray design shown in this thread. :eek:
So Jessica, you're getting your hands on a set around the 14th. Originative still says mid-December. Would it be too ambitious to speculate when originative will get their hands on the sets to ship?
Timelines have changed a good bit so I can't say anything for sure. All I've got is "Soon" from GMK :P That said, Sherry has told me that he just put mid-December on the page to be cautious.
Feel safe to say that pretty much everyone, realistically, should have their sets by mid-DecHighly interested in a desk mat matching the tray design shown in this thread. :eek:
I've contacted the appropriate people for this to be made a possibility :) Keep your eyes on https://novelkeys.xyz/ for future updates about that, as well as here
How cool! I had no idea :D
I'll be getting my set on Wednesday as expected, so hopefully I get mine first :P
Pics please :)
I received my set today, I am satisfied, I only have doubts about blue maybe slightly too bright. But I'm very happy with the green, I was worried that it was too "faded"
KMK Labs.
According to the FedEx website, there have been widespread delays due to the snow or whatever, so my package is currently sitting there waiting to be released.
I love cold weather, except when it interupts my keebs. 😡
Well Jessica, you sure showed me.clap
I wish I would have cancelled my order when the initial red flags were raised early on in the sample process, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt.
The accents came out good, I'll admit - but the alphas... you be the judge.
Now huge disclaimer, I am not a good photograph, the photos are not properly white balanced and they are not consistent or perfectly accurate. My point of posting these is to show the difference in alpha color compared to the render (box has the correct color that I compared to as well) - take it however you want.
Reference:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/P4zkABo.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OrKePkC.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/W99S1vk.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nnnZSqQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kbjxja6.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ItsWRfD.jpg)
It does look like the old render of necro, however, that is not the necro that I was planning on getting when I ordered based on newer renders:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UsSYNaq.jpg)
What I, and what I assume the other 4 people buying Necro were purchasing was actually this:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)
Well Jessica, you sure showed me.
I wish I would have cancelled my order when the initial red flags were raised early on in the sample process, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt.
The accents came out good, I'll admit - but the alphas... you be the judge.
Now huge disclaimer, I am not a good photograph, the photos are not properly white balanced and they are not consistent or perfectly accurate. My point of posting these is to show the difference in alpha color compared to the render (box has the correct color that I compared to as well) - take it however you want.
Reference:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/P4zkABo.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OrKePkC.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/W99S1vk.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nnnZSqQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kbjxja6.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ItsWRfD.jpg)
It does look like the old render of necro, however, that is not the necro that I was planning on getting when I ordered based on newer renders:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UsSYNaq.jpg)
What I, and what I assume the other 4 people buying Necro were purchasing was actually this:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)
I'm confused...did one of the colors in the render get omitted? The "mid teal" or greenish color looked ok in the samples...but I don't see anything resembling it in the pictures..
Renders
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Mods - mid teal
Mod text - light bluish
Alphas - cream color
Alpha text - mid teal
Accents - light bluish
Accent Text - dark teal
Actual
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Mods - dark teal *
Mod text - light bluish
Alphas - cream color
Alpha text - dark teal *
Accents - light bluish
Accent Text - dark teal
So I got the new samples and they are absolutely wonderful.
I will try to get a good colour quality picture so you guys can see, but just know that the colours match the renders really well, specifically this oneShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)
Believe it or not, the green especially is super accurate. I think you'll all enjoy it :)
Write down whatever you wish to write down in the thread in your effort to try and save what little that is left of your reputation as a keycap runner, but you'd have to be conpletely insane out of your mind to think that the alphas are anything close to ANY representation of the alpha color shown during the GB phase. Accurate photos or not (I never claimed accurate photos), I'll let everyone decide for themselves. It literally is INSULTING that you even try to JUSTIFY the alpha color, if you have your set. It is not even CLOSE.
Lessons learned, never trust you. It seems to be the general consensus in general, I am finding out now. I guess I was just too gullible, and well; now I am paying for it.
I'll just leave this here, it's a bit funny now that everything is concluded.So I got the new samples and they are absolutely wonderful.
I will try to get a good colour quality picture so you guys can see, but just know that the colours match the renders really well, specifically this oneShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)
Believe it or not, the green especially is super accurate. I think you'll all enjoy it :)
Although it's hard to tell true colors from photos and what sets "should" look like from renders I do agree that the colors seem off and for the person running the set to not have one on hand before customers to me speaks volumes of how the QA process was handled. I am hoping when my set comes in I still want to keep it because I was very excited for a long time to get this set based on the renders. I know if I had my name on something I would have a full set and pictures before anyone else receives it. I have never run a set but it just seems like this could have gone smoother. I hope the alphas are a lighter green and the mods are more grey than dark blue but who knows... :-X I know it's not easy running a set but if you take the ownership of the credit you should also take ownership in the mistakes it's really hard to believe Jessica doesn't have a set yet and can't find anyone to take an accurate photo of what she believes to be the actual color.
Although it's hard to tell true colors from photos and what sets "should" look like from renders I do agree that the colors seem off and for the person running the set to not have one on hand before customers to me speaks volumes of how the QA process was handled. I am hoping when my set comes in I still want to keep it because I was very excited for a long time to get this set based on the renders. I know if I had my name on something I would have a full set and pictures before anyone else receives it. I have never run a set but it just seems like this could have gone smoother. I hope the alphas are a lighter green and the mods are more grey than dark blue but who knows... :-X I know it's not easy running a set but if you take the ownership of the credit you should also take ownership in the mistakes it's really hard to believe Jessica doesn't have a set yet and can't find anyone to take an accurate photo of what she believes to be the actual color.
Well, I'll make one more post tonight.
So, to everyone who bought the set who might be concerned about the colours, especially because of the pictures posted, I'd like to give my absolute best effort to clear up how difficult these colours are to capture accurately.
These pictures were taken less than 5 minutes apart, in the same lighting conditions (in my bedroom, natural lighting only), no colour correction, taken with my iPhone 8.
The difference is simply the background colour:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EfSEtHW.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Y825git.jpg)
I'm not saying my pictures are by any means accurate, these are simply to demonstrate how much variance there is in the exact same conditions, changing literally just the background colour.
And Emir, please never purchase anything I make ever again. It will save both of us a lot of grief. Months of your pedantry isn't worth the few dollars I earn from your purchase. No need to respond to me, please just sell your set in classifieds or r/mechmarket and get your money back, and find a different keyset to use.
Emir, please pm me and sell me your Necro set. I have one on the way, and I dont have the energy to read the entire post, but if you're unhappy with the set you can get out of it with zero loss. If you're in a different country, I will pay the shipping to Los Angeles.
But please stop badgering Jessica (which is in fact, what you are doing). I don't know her. I only know Jessica from Plum. But makers are creative people and that's what we as a community should be encouraging, not discouraging, and that means cutting her a break if its not exactly what you or she had in mind. We are fortunate that this is also a community where you could sell your items at near cost. Because for every element you dislike, others may respond to.
I want more keycaps in the future, and the more makers you discourage and shut down with this type of behavior, the less innovations and new ideas we will get.
Emir, please pm me and sell me your Necro set. I have one on the way, and I dont have the energy to read the entire post, but if you're unhappy with the set you can get out of it with zero loss. If you're in a different country, I will pay the shipping to Los Angeles.
But please stop badgering Jessica (which is in fact, what you are doing). I don't know her. I only know Jessica from Plum. But makers are creative people and that's what we as a community should be encouraging, not discouraging, and that means cutting her a break if its not exactly what you or she had in mind. We are fortunate that this is also a community where you could sell your items at near cost. Because for every element you dislike, others may respond to.
I want more keycaps in the future, and the more makers you discourage and shut down with this type of behavior, the less innovations and new ideas we will get.
Emir, please pm me and sell me your Necro set. I have one on the way, and I dont have the energy to read the entire post, but if you're unhappy with the set you can get out of it with zero loss. If you're in a different country, I will pay the shipping to Los Angeles.
But please stop badgering Jessica (which is in fact, what you are doing). I don't know her. I only know Jessica from Plum. But makers are creative people and that's what we as a community should be encouraging, not discouraging, and that means cutting her a break if its not exactly what you or she had in mind. We are fortunate that this is also a community where you could sell your items at near cost. Because for every element you dislike, others may respond to.
I want more keycaps in the future, and the more makers you discourage and shut down with this type of behavior, the less innovations and new ideas we will get.
Wasn’t there a lesson learned from Plum to test the samples under various lighting? How was this color transformation based on minor light changes not a concern when you approved the samples?
Also, the people PMinG me about the instagram photos and how unsatisfied you aRe, why don't you voice your own opinions in the thread? I won't name anyone, but multiple people messaged mE their opinions but want me to get all the pitchforks in their stead after seeing my last posts unfold. Stand for your own opinion instead, it's kind of pathetic that you trY to hide behind me.
Now I get why back then Mito took the extra mile and booked his flight to Germany to check on the real Laser sample. I always thought that was redundant somehow but now it all comes clear to me. Not that I'm saying that should be something every gb's runner should do because that just takes a lot of resources and too unrealistic to even carry something out of that caliber. But that is just to say not even this nor Phantom, nothing has ever come as close to render as Laser. No wonder why that set got all its popularity...
$35k GROSS. Not profit, right?Now I get why back then Mito took the extra mile and booked his flight to Germany to check on the real Laser sample. I always thought that was redundant somehow but now it all comes clear to me. Not that I'm saying that should be something every gb's runner should do because that just takes a lot of resources and too unrealistic to even carry something out of that caliber. But that is just to say not even this nor Phantom, nothing has ever come as close to render as Laser. No wonder why that set got all its popularity...
Although a flight to Germany may not be easy for everyone nether is a $200 keyset. I am not hating on the outcome or what the pictures show I am excited to get my set, however for a $35,000+ MOQ it seems reasonable for a trip. Idk maybe it's just me...
I think the alpha colors are pretty close, if not on point even with the poor lighting with pics.
My only concern is the modifier colors, to which they seem more darker grey, even navy-ish rather than a lighter grey depicted on renders. Regardless I don't think it warrants any certain behavior coming from certain people.
And Emir, please never purchase anything I make ever again. It will save both of us a lot of grief. Months of your pedantry isn't worth the few dollars I earn from your purchase. No need to respond to me, please just sell your set in classifieds or r/mechmarket and get your money back, and find a different keyset to use.
And Emir, please never purchase anything I make ever again. It will save both of us a lot of grief. Months of your pedantry isn't worth the few dollars I earn from your purchase. No need to respond to me, please just sell your set in classifieds or r/mechmarket and get your money back, and find a different keyset to use.
Guys why are we bashing on Emir? I mean I'm not siding with anyone, but I think the guy has all rights to be mad if the set didn't turn out the way it was advertised to him. It's not like Jessica offered him a free set. Dude paid close to $200 for it out of his pocket. Also the fact that Jessica kept reminding everyone that everything was fine, everything was perfect, everything matched up perfectly when nothing didn't certainly (according to him, which, judging from his photo, was very valid) made it felt like dude was being lied to. Flashback to Violet Tendencies, I remember there was an issue with the contrast of the legends and the mods. Voxicles was very opened about it and issued apologies to everyone joining his GB and offered to buy back any set they don't like. I don't recall anyone has ever returned their set. I am sure this community is very forgiving and are very willing to provide help and support if things don't turn out right like what we did with Tendencies. But if you screwed it up, you owed your supporters at least an apology, not treating them like the way she treated Emir. I just think the way Jessica reacted was a little bit too childish. Especially when she said this. You have to remember, of all the active GB's running at that time, he decided to CHOOSE and SUPPORT your project. That alone, should earn him respect from the GB's runner. Basically telling him if he doesn't want the set, he can gtfo and find a place to get rid of it just sounds horribly wrong to me.
Now I get why back then Mito took the extra mile and booked his flight to Germany to check on the real Laser sample. I always thought that was redundant somehow but now it all comes clear to me. Not that I'm saying that should be something every gb's runner should do because that just takes a lot of resources and too unrealistic to even carry something out of that caliber. But that is just to say not even this nor Phantom, nothing has ever come as close to render as Laser. No wonder why that set got all its popularity...
And Emir, please never purchase anything I make ever again. It will save both of us a lot of grief. Months of your pedantry isn't worth the few dollars I earn from your purchase. No need to respond to me, please just sell your set in classifieds or r/mechmarket and get your money back, and find a different keyset to use.
Guys why are we bashing on Emir? I mean I'm not siding with anyone, but I think the guy has all rights to be mad if the set didn't turn out the way it was advertised to him. It's not like Jessica offered him a free set. Dude paid close to $200 for it out of his pocket. Also the fact that Jessica kept reminding everyone that everything was fine, everything was perfect, everything matched up perfectly when nothing didn't certainly (according to him, which, judging from his photo, was very valid) made it felt like dude was being lied to. Flashback to Violet Tendencies, I remember there was an issue with the contrast of the legends and the mods. Voxicles was very opened about it and issued apologies to everyone joining his GB and offered to buy back any set they don't like. I don't recall anyone has ever returned their set. I am sure this community is very forgiving and are very willing to provide help and support if things don't turn out right like what we did with Tendencies. But if you screwed it up, you owed your supporters at least an apology, not treating them like the way she treated Emir. I just think the way Jessica reacted was a little bit too childish. Especially when she said this. You have to remember, of all the active GB's running at that time, he decided to CHOOSE and SUPPORT your project. That alone, should earn him respect from the GB's runner. Basically telling him if he doesn't want the set, he can gtfo and find a place to get rid of it just sounds horribly wrong to me.
^^^ This. If you are putting your name on something it doesn't matter the criticism you get you should still respect your customers especially the ones who bought your product. I am not hating on the color, it's different than I expected by the images I've seen so far but I think I will be okay with it. I just know I would take criticism as an opportunity for improvement like most businesses... When do you see Target or Walmart ganging up on their customer for a bad review?
I have no dog in this fight, but are you comparing mito taking a flight for a keyset that grossed almost 450,000 dollars to someone taking a flight for a set that likely grossed <10% of that. And that's a gross number, not net. It wouldn't be financially feasible to take a trip out there for every set that GMK runs for this community. Especially for people not already in Europe.
Sure I did. And of course it makes it look like I didn't since you edited your post after I made my comment.I have no dog in this fight, but are you comparing mito taking a flight for a keyset that grossed almost 450,000 dollars to someone taking a flight for a set that likely grossed <10% of that. And that's a gross number, not net. It wouldn't be financially feasible to take a trip out there for every set that GMK runs for this community. Especially for people not already in Europe.
Did you literally not read what I just said? I was just appreciating Mito's huge effort, not suggesting any gb's runner should do the same thing he did. You literally just rephrased what I just said, but worse. Please, allow me to recap it for you: Not that I'm saying that should be something every gb's runner should do because that just takes a lot of resources and too unrealistic to even carry something out of that caliber
Sure I did. And of course it makes it look like I didn't since you edited your post after I made my comment.
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Sure I did. And of course it makes it look like I didn't since you edited your post after I made my comment.
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Smurkcity « Reply #464 on: Fri, 16 November 2018, 23:22:58 »
21 vs 23. Hmmm....
Sure I did. And of course it makes it look like I didn't since you edited your post after I made my comment.
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Smurkcity « Reply #464 on: Fri, 16 November 2018, 23:22:58 »
21 vs 23. Hmmm....
Lol somebody just got EXPOSED lmao :)) :)) :))
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That looks pretty nice. :cool:
That looks pretty nice. :cool:
Looking pretty nice, and looking like the renders are 2 completely separate things though. I'd be pissed to if I was buying in on this set, and it came out the way it did.
I'm sorry, but now Jessica has run 2 GBs where the renders are completely different than the final product. That would make me caution anything she puts out in the future with a very heavy hand. Not to mention her attitude to one of her customers is pretty sour. Not a way I'd want to handle that situation personally.
That looks pretty nice. :cool:
Looking pretty nice, and looking like the renders are 2 completely separate things though. I'd be pissed to if I was buying in on this set, and it came out the way it did.
I'm sorry, but now Jessica has run 2 GBs where the renders are completely different than the final product. That would make me caution anything she puts out in the future with a very heavy hand. Not to mention her attitude to one of her customers is pretty sour. Not a way I'd want to handle that situation personally.
Looking pretty nice, and looking like the renders are 2 completely separate things though. I'd be pissed to if I was buying in on this set, and it came out the way it did.
I'm sorry, but now Jessica has run 2 GBs where the renders are completely different than the final product. That would make me caution anything she puts out in the future with a very heavy hand. Not to mention her attitude to one of her customers is pretty sour. Not a way I'd want to handle that situation personally.
Imagine typing all this because someone said something nice.
Imagine replying to me, trying to White Knight in a thread just because she's a girl...
I said this on reddit, and I'll say it again here. If the designer of this set was a guy, and the situations were EXACTLY the same, with another GB previously that came out nothing like the renders, everyone would be royally upset. Not to mention if the designer basically told someone "tough luck" after spending a large chunk of money on the kit to have it not come out anywhere close to what they thought they were buying? Everyone would be having a hissy fit.
Her attitude is crap at best in response to a problem she obviously knew about. If her vision was to have it come out like it did in person, she should have communicated that from the beginning and updated the renders. Instead, she stuck to the renders and they are nothing like the final product.
I, like many people appreciate a designer's hard work, but her attitude is not helping her at all....
Looking pretty nice, and looking like the renders are 2 completely separate things though. I'd be pissed to if I was buying in on this set, and it came out the way it did.
I'm sorry, but now Jessica has run 2 GBs where the renders are completely different than the final product. That would make me caution anything she puts out in the future with a very heavy hand. Not to mention her attitude to one of her customers is pretty sour. Not a way I'd want to handle that situation personally.
Imagine typing all this because someone said something nice.
Imagine replying to me, trying to White Knight in a thread just because she's a girl...
I said this on reddit, and I'll say it again here. If the designer of this set was a guy, and the situations were EXACTLY the same, with another GB previously that came out nothing like the renders, everyone would be royally upset. Not to mention if the designer basically told someone "tough luck" after spending a large chunk of money on the kit to have it not come out anywhere close to what they thought they were buying? Everyone would be having a hissy fit.
Her attitude is crap at best in response to a problem she obviously knew about. If her vision was to have it come out like it did in person, she should have communicated that from the beginning and updated the renders. Instead, she stuck to the renders and they are nothing like the final product.
I, like many people appreciate a designer's hard work, but her attitude is not helping her at all....
none of the posts quoted in my reply have anything to do with the designer of this set. someone literally just said "looks nice" and you wrote a novel about why they should actually be mad instead of thinking it's nice lol. also "white knighting" lmao you're literally the only person who is bringing gender into this
really tho my guy please point to literally anywhere i've even defended jessica's behaviour or the outcome of the colours of the set in this thread
Wow! This set came out awesome! After seeing the photos now I regret not jumping on this GB.
Great job Jessica!
One final shot before selling it off, enjoy your sets everyone.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TDyBqHF.jpg)
Looking pretty nice, and looking like the renders are 2 completely separate things though. I'd be pissed to if I was buying in on this set, and it came out the way it did.
I'm sorry, but now Jessica has run 2 GBs where the renders are completely different than the final product. That would make me caution anything she puts out in the future with a very heavy hand. Not to mention her attitude to one of her customers is pretty sour. Not a way I'd want to handle that situation personally.
Imagine typing all this because someone said something nice.
Imagine replying to me, trying to White Knight in a thread just because she's a girl...
I said this on reddit, and I'll say it again here. If the designer of this set was a guy, and the situations were EXACTLY the same, with another GB previously that came out nothing like the renders, everyone would be royally upset. Not to mention if the designer basically told someone "tough luck" after spending a large chunk of money on the kit to have it not come out anywhere close to what they thought they were buying? Everyone would be having a hissy fit.
Her attitude is crap at best in response to a problem she obviously knew about. If her vision was to have it come out like it did in person, she should have communicated that from the beginning and updated the renders. Instead, she stuck to the renders and they are nothing like the final product.
I, like many people appreciate a designer's hard work, but her attitude is not helping her at all....
none of the posts quoted in my reply have anything to do with the designer of this set. someone literally just said "looks nice" and you wrote a novel about why they should actually be mad instead of thinking it's nice lol. also "white knighting" lmao you're literally the only person who is bringing gender into this
really tho my guy please point to literally anywhere i've even defended jessica's behaviour or the outcome of the colours of the set in this thread
Imagine typing all this because someone said something tru
This was my interpretation of the samples.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7EC2uMi.jpg)
This was my interpretation of the samples.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7EC2uMi.jpg)
One of the proposed colors is completely missing D:
Where did the grey go? Renders had 4 colors but actual set only has 3?
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That sample grey was perfect, was it not? I have a feeling GMK was told to use the wrong colors, and this is all being played off as intentional.Or last minute someone decided to use 3 colors instead of 4 to make a quick buck because it would be cheaper to use 3 colors. If the set didn't sell well, I could see oco (not Jessica) making this decision... The mod color looks awfully like the alpha legends.
Looks like this set was wildly oversaturated, similar to plum. The colors look similar to the render once pulled back.
Looks like this set was wildly oversaturated, similar to plum. The colors look similar to the render once pulled back.Imagine having to use Photoshop to make your keyset look right
Looks like this set was wildly oversaturated, similar to plum. The colors look similar to the render once pulled back.
This was my interpretation of the samples.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7EC2uMi.jpg)
This was my interpretation of the samples.:thumb:awesome guy, that is why necro looks weird.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7EC2uMi.jpg)
This was my interpretation of the samples.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7EC2uMi.jpg)
You know, that actually seems to be what's going on, I wonder if somehow there was a miscommunication somewhere or something else happened to the chosen colors.
In regards to the direction the thread has been going the past few pages: Everyone taking part in the GB is entitled to express their opinion on the state of the set, but I see many comments that could stand to be much more polite about what they're saying, from both sides of this. It serves no purpose to be rude or accusatory in any of the conversation that's going on here and only results in derailing and diluting of the thread. At the moment, it would do everyone well to be patient while we hear from more people getting the set and waiting for more of the whole picture to reveal itself.
At the moment, it would do everyone well to be patient while we hear from more people getting the set and waiting for more of the whole picture to reveal itself.
This was my interpretation of the samples.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7EC2uMi.jpg)
You know, that actually seems to be what's going on, I wonder if somehow there was a miscommunication somewhere or something else happened to the chosen colors.
In regards to the direction the thread has been going the past few pages: Everyone taking part in the GB is entitled to express their opinion on the state of the set, but I see many comments that could stand to be much more polite about what they're saying, from both sides of this. It serves no purpose to be rude or accusatory in any of the conversation that's going on here and only results in derailing and diluting of the thread. At the moment, it would do everyone well to be patient while we hear from more people getting the set and waiting for more of the whole picture to reveal itself.
This thread is the great example of why so many people get turned off in this community.
This thread is the great example of why so many people get turned off in this community.
Hmm sorry but I was just curious where did you get this information from? Survey? Poll? Genuinely curious. I don't think I've seen anyone gets turned off in this community? Can you name a person?
This thread is the great example of why so many people get turned off in this community.
Hmm sorry but I was just curious where did you get this information from? Survey? Poll? Genuinely curious. I don't think I've seen anyone gets turned off in this community? Can you name a person?
It happens a lot. Turns out people who leave the community don’t fill out surveys. I can’t imagine how anyone could think that toxicity doesn’t affect community participation.
Damn so happy not the only person who see's this. The community can be a toxic waste dump at times. I know personally I felt like wiping my hands of it several times. People get way to emotional way to quick. I get being upset over spending bunch of money and not getting your product but yea personal attacks just go to far....
That being said I agree the colors are off from all the pictures I have seen. I personally liked the concept and the renders. I wanted the set planned to pick set up from Org. when money allowed. I will now hard pass on these. I also know others have said this is the second time this has happened with this group buy runner. Easy solution don't join there gb anymore. I know I wouldn't but bashing them. Attacking them personally is not the way to go. I also thought will say this a gb runner is just that there like a business they need to remain professional.
This thread is the great example of why so many people get turned off in this community.
Hmm sorry but I was just curious where did you get this information from? Survey? Poll? Genuinely curious. I don't think I've seen anyone gets turned off in this community? Can you name a person?
It happens a lot. Turns out people who leave the community don’t fill out surveys. I can’t imagine how anyone could think that toxicity doesn’t affect community participation.
Damn so happy not the only person who see's this. The community can be a toxic waste dump at times. I know personally I felt like wiping my hands of it several times. People get way to emotional way to quick. I get being upset over spending bunch of money and not getting your product but yea personal attacks just go to far....
That being said I agree the colors are off from all the pictures I have seen. I personally liked the concept and the renders. I wanted the set planned to pick set up from Org. when money allowed. I will now hard pass on these. I also know others have said this is the second time this has happened with this group buy runner. Easy solution don't join there gb anymore. I know I wouldn't but bashing them. Attacking them personally is not the way to go. I also thought will say this a gb runner is just that there like a business they need to remain professional.
Did you guys even read the thread? Emir definitely took it too far but let’s not pretend Jessica handled herself with dignity. She belittled anyone who raised a concern, attacked people’s intelligence, and told everyone that she doesn’t care what they think since only she knows how the set is suppose to look. Even those who paid and stuck with her for two failed GB attempts, she showed a lack of respect. Her arrogance and lack of professional maturity may have been overlooked if she delivered, but don’t try to paint her as a victim when her behavior and how she handled the GB likely added fuel to Emir’s fire.^ This ++
Hindsight 20/20, she made a lot of mistakes that should have been avoidable and you’d think wouldn’t have happened to someone in their second GB. Even now with her project being the laughing stock of the community, she’s not exactly handling it very well.
This thread is the great example of why so many people get turned off in this community.
Hmm sorry but I was just curious where did you get this information from? Survey? Poll? Genuinely curious. I don't think I've seen anyone gets turned off in this community? Can you name a person?
It happens a lot. Turns out people who leave the community don’t fill out surveys. I can’t imagine how anyone could think that toxicity doesn’t affect community participation.
Damn so happy not the only person who see's this. The community can be a toxic waste dump at times. I know personally I felt like wiping my hands of it several times. People get way to emotional way to quick. I get being upset over spending bunch of money and not getting your product but yea personal attacks just go to far....
That being said I agree the colors are off from all the pictures I have seen. I personally liked the concept and the renders. I wanted the set planned to pick set up from Org. when money allowed. I will now hard pass on these. I also know others have said this is the second time this has happened with this group buy runner. Easy solution don't join there gb anymore. I know I wouldn't but bashing them. Attacking them personally is not the way to go. I also thought will say this a gb runner is just that there like a business they need to remain professional.
Did you guys even read the thread? Emir definitely took it too far but let’s not pretend Jessica handled herself with dignity. She belittled anyone who raised a concern, attacked people’s intelligence, and told everyone that she doesn’t care what they think since only she knows how the set is suppose to look. Even those who paid and stuck with her for two failed GB attempts, she showed a lack of respect. Her arrogance and lack of professional maturity may have been overlooked if she delivered, but don’t try to paint her as a victim when her behavior and how she handled the GB likely added fuel to Emir’s fire.
Hindsight 20/20, she made a lot of mistakes that should have been avoidable and you’d think wouldn’t have happened to someone in their second GB. Even now with her project being the laughing stock of the community, she’s not exactly handling it very well.
Things happen in the process of creating custom items--any number of issues can come up. The fault can be hard to place, objectively, especially given the long-distance communication between the manufacturer and set designer. Still in the end if one is not happy with the product, the classifieds (and reddit mechmarket) are generally good for reselling your brand new set for what you paid during the group buy. It's extremely likely that most of the sets differ at least a little from the initial renders as they are shown on my particular screen.
Yes I can also see that the set and the renders differs, however what do you want jessica to do about it? Yes she can do a public apology etc. but at the end of the day, she wanted the set to be as good as all of you wanted it to be. She didn't choose a different color just to **** with you, but I think she did it because she thought it looked the best match to the renders.Things happen in the process of creating custom items--any number of issues can come up. The fault can be hard to place, objectively, especially given the long-distance communication between the manufacturer and set designer. Still in the end if one is not happy with the product, the classifieds (and reddit mechmarket) are generally good for reselling your brand new set for what you paid during the group buy. It's extremely likely that most of the sets differ at least a little from the initial renders as they are shown on my particular screen.
Not to stir things up further but given the earlier posts (especially the one with the diagram) it seems like the most egregious mistake if the fact one colour was completely eliminated from the end product for unknown reason. If that's the case the fault is pretty easy to place here, either Oco/Jessica gave GMK the wrong colours (by mistake, hopefully?) or GMK fluffed the batch on their end.
Regardless, whoever that someone is has some splainin to do - the green from the alphas and the blue from the accents being off, which for better or for worse they quite clearly are far as the final renders go, are the least of the people involved's concern when an entire colour customers quite literally paid for is missing.
given the earlier posts (especially the one with the diagram) it seems like the most egregious mistake if the fact one colour was completely eliminated from the end product for unknown reason.
This is the last warning to please remain civil and not throw out insults at each other (especially hiding behind troll accounts) and remember that this is a community of enthusiasts which is based not only on making cool stuff and exchange information, but also sharing the experience of being interested in the same things and generally hopefully finding similarly-minded people and maybe even developing long-term friendships (now I've made it sound like a dating site...)
More intense thread cleaning will follow if the discussion does not become more considerate.
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Things happen in the process of creating custom items--any number of issues can come up. The fault can be hard to place, objectively, especially given the long-distance communication between the manufacturer and set designer. Still in the end if one is not happy with the product, the classifieds (and reddit mechmarket) are generally good for reselling your brand new set for what you paid during the group buy. It's extremely likely that most of the sets differ at least a little from the initial renders as they are shown on my particular screen.
Yes I can also see that the set and the renders differs, however what do you want jessica to do about it? Yes she can do a public apology etc. but at the end of the day, she wanted the set to be as good as all of you wanted it to be. She didn't choose a different color just to **** with you, but I think she did it because she thought it looked the best match to the renders.
Yall need to treat GB's like a kickstarter where the runner thinks of a cool concept and does everything in their power to achieve it. If you want to back that project or not is up to you. You can't treat a GB like a store purchase, even though the more the kb-community evolves the more professional GB's tend to get.
remember that this is a community of enthusiasts which is based not only on making cool stuff and exchange information, but also sharing the experience of being interested in the same things and generally hopefully finding similarly-minded people and maybe even developing long-term friendships
To me it looks like GMK shot the mods with the wrong color and, if that's the case, GMK should make it right. IIRC, as of her last post, Jessica didn't have her set yet so the best thing to do would be to wait till she does and has seen it with her own eyes.
To me it looks like GMK shot the mods with the wrong color and, if that's the case, GMK should make it right. IIRC, as of her last post, Jessica didn't have her set yet so the best thing to do would be to wait till she does and has seen it with her own eyes.
To me it looks like GMK shot the mods with the wrong color and, if that's the case, GMK should make it right. IIRC, as of her last post, Jessica didn't have her set yet so the best thing to do would be to wait till she does and has seen it with her own eyes.
Well that makes perfect sense. You send the product out to your customers without signing it off first. This is why you do correction rounds BEFORE the product is considered finished. You can't blame GMK for this.
This just simply isn’t how keysets get made. There are no sets made prior to the entire production run.
This just simply isn’t how keysets get made. There are no sets made prior to the entire production run.
Who said anything about having a whole set? You can approve colours without having the whole set. Blaming GMK for this is the cheap way out. If there was an issue it should have been highlighted in the thread, but nothing was ever mentioned about it. I doubt GMK made the final set anything besides what was agreed upon.
You should read the whole thread before you comment. If you have read the whole thread, you should go back and read it again. There was an issue and IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE THREAD. Color samples were done, signed off on. You don't think there's any chance of a manufacturing error?This just simply isn’t how keysets get made. There are no sets made prior to the entire production run.
Who said anything about having a whole set? You can approve colours without having the whole set. Blaming GMK for this is the cheap way out. If there was an issue it should have been highlighted in the thread, but nothing was ever mentioned about it. I doubt GMK made the final set anything besides what was agreed upon.
You should read the whole thread before you comment. If you have read the whole thread, you should go back and read it again. There was an issue and IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE THREAD. Color samples were done, signed off on. You don't think there's any chance of a manufacturing error?This just simply isn’t how keysets get made. There are no sets made prior to the entire production run.
Who said anything about having a whole set? You can approve colours without having the whole set. Blaming GMK for this is the cheap way out. If there was an issue it should have been highlighted in the thread, but nothing was ever mentioned about it. I doubt GMK made the final set anything besides what was agreed upon.
I have read it, but since you can read so much better than me, please show me where and when the author says that the colors are not according to what they decided upon. I'm not talking about samples being sent back and forth but the final one. If I was the creator I would have voiced my concerns in the thread. So far I've only seen white knights making those claims. Suddenly it's GMK's fault as if this is somehow the most advanced thing they've ever done. After Plum that is.
Jessica has yet to receive her own set and verify that the colors were manufactured correctly.
Wow. Just wow...You should read the whole thread before you comment. If you have read the whole thread, you should go back and read it again. There was an issue and IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE THREAD. Color samples were done, signed off on. You don't think there's any chance of a manufacturing error?This just simply isn’t how keysets get made. There are no sets made prior to the entire production run.
Who said anything about having a whole set? You can approve colours without having the whole set. Blaming GMK for this is the cheap way out. If there was an issue it should have been highlighted in the thread, but nothing was ever mentioned about it. I doubt GMK made the final set anything besides what was agreed upon.
I have read it, but since you can read so much better than me, please show me where and when the author says that the colors are not according to what they decided upon. I'm not talking about samples being sent back and forth but the final one. If I was the creator I would have voiced my concerns in the thread. So far I've only seen white knights making those claims. Suddenly it's GMK's fault as if this is somehow the most advanced thing they've ever done. After Plum that is.
Hello everyone,
I recieved my set, but got it only a bit before I had to leave for work. I have some pics of the set to share once I'm home (10:30 PST, approximately),
And just to clarify, I was intended to get my set delivered to me on the 14th. However, I checked with FedEx (even called them on Friday to get the most up to date info) and there was a storm holding up incoming deliveries at their international hub in Memphis. I posted this before but I just want to reiterate that I was meant to have my set before everyone else, international shipping just held it up. Sorry for that, but that part is entirely out of my control.
So I'll just clarify the few things I'm seeing here
1. The set was made with all the approved colours, no manufacturing mixup
2. The blue tint of the modifiers comes out really strong in pictures, but in person it's definitely more mild. It's certianly not a dark navy blue colour
In the meantime, please everyone be nice to eachother :)
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Jessica has yet to receive her own set and verify that the colors were manufactured correctly.
Isn't that what the samples (3 sets, if I'm reading correctly) were supposed to be for?
Regardless of what she thinks, the sets are produced and shipping now, so even if people are unhappy with the outcome I don't see much changing.
So I'll just clarify the few things I'm seeing here
1. The set was made with all the approved colours, no manufacturing mixup
2. The blue tint of the modifiers comes out really strong in pictures, but in person it's definitely more mild. It's certianly not a dark navy blue colour
Jessica has yet to receive her own set and verify that the colors were manufactured correctly.
Isn't that what the samples (3 sets, if I'm reading correctly) were supposed to be for?
Regardless of what she thinks, the sets are produced and shipping now, so even if people are unhappy with the outcome I don't see much changing.
Colors from a batch of plastic ran a considerable amount of time before the production batch was made doesn't necessarily mean that the production run turned out exactly like them or that there wasn't a mistake with the usage of the colors. In theory it should guarantee that exact color is used, but color consistency across batches can be tricky business.
In regards to the set not reaching her in time, it does seem like it would have been better for someone(not sure who in this case) to make sure she got her set before the sets were to even be shipped from GMK to the proxies, even to the point of delaying bulk shipment until hers arrived.
On another note, is it just me, or does it seem like there's a much higher incidence currently of people being vocal about colors not being matches to renders or what they expected? I'm not saying whether or not they should be saying this, and it's not just this set either, but it just seems like a year ago or so you'd see less people comparing sets directly to the renders or maybe just more overall realization that renders are "optimal" realizations of the colors of a set and should be taken as more of a guideline of the colorway rather than the dictation of what it absolutely will be. An unfortunate part of working with custom colors is that renders are the best thing you have for showing off the colors before people buy it, photos of singleshot samples are what you have after people have paid, both of these methods being reliant on people viewing them on any number of monitors with different color correction, and then they only see what it looks like IRL for the first time when everything is said and done. Again, I'm not saying you don't have a reason to complain if you think the colors are too far off from what you were sold, but at the same time it's quite difficult for anyone but the designer to say "yes, I know what these colors look like and therefore what the set will look like", and even then the nature of the sample process can mean they won't see the set colors "put together" in their final config until they have a set themselves. I think the whole process of working with custom colors is just something that I'm concerned about ever doing myself just from the feedback I've seen in some of these threads from even minor discrepancies against the renders.
I agree. I wonder what solution we could try to figure out to help alleviate this issue in the future. I remember GMK Olivia using a pantone book to match the color perhaps that's a good idea going forward?
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I agree. I wonder what solution we could try to figure out to help alleviate this issue in the future. I remember GMK Olivia using a pantone book to match the color perhaps that's a good idea going forward?
I agree. I wonder what solution we could try to figure out to help alleviate this issue in the future. I remember GMK Olivia using a pantone book to match the color perhaps that's a good idea going forward?
Can't tell if sarcastic or not?? Plenty of GB runners don't have this issue, especially twice in a row....
I agree. I wonder what solution we could try to figure out to help alleviate this issue in the future. I remember GMK Olivia using a pantone book to match the color perhaps that's a good idea going forward?
I mean...I really dont think it needs to be said....especially for those who've run keysets before...
1. pick your sets palette
2. choose pantones that are replicatable in plastic
3. dont just use HEX codes until the GB's conclusion and assume the vendor can color match plastic chips to a computer screens rgb numbers
4. list your pantones/color chips so people know what to expect
5. list the pantones/color chips you change to along the way in the event your originally chosen pantones/color chips don't match your renders, or you've found a pantone/chip that BETTER reflects the palette AND renders of the set
6. take pictures of your samples in daylight, low-light, indoor lighting...avoid fluorescent settings, try to take pictures of the samples in locations where they'd be seen the MOST...like your desk/office etc....if you need a professional light studio with a professional camera to capture the perfect lighting conditions that makes the set match the render then you're probably going to get a ****ton of flack
7. geniuinely sound like you are trying your hardest to match the original render, dont spend your time gaslighting the dissenting opinions
8. dont replace "your artistic interpretation" of the set with "the literal render representation of the set" AFTER the groupbuys conclusion... people bought what was advertised, not for your artistic integrity...
On another note, is it just me, or does it seem like there's a much higher incidence currently of people being vocal about colors not being matches to renders or what they expected? I'm not saying whether or not they should be saying this, and it's not just this set either, but it just seems like a year ago or so you'd see less people comparing sets directly to the renders or maybe just more overall realization that renders are "optimal" realizations of the colors of a set and should be taken as more of a guideline of the colorway rather than the dictation of what it absolutely will be. An unfortunate part of working with custom colors is that renders are the best thing you have for showing off the colors before people buy it, photos of singleshot samples are what you have after people have paid, both of these methods being reliant on people viewing them on any number of monitors with different color correction, and then they only see what it looks like IRL for the first time when everything is said and done.
This is a good point. Or actual lego bricks, lol. Didn't Zambumon do that with Serika to match the yellow (and it worked out because lego bricks are ABS plastic as well)?
Also, RAL chips would be more desirable to match to over Pantone, and you can most likely use the RGB/CMYK/Hex associated with them for the renders.
I agree. I wonder what solution we could try to figure out to help alleviate this issue in the future. I remember GMK Olivia using a pantone book to match the color perhaps that's a good idea going forward?
I mean...I really dont think it needs to be said....especially for those who've run keysets before...
1. pick your sets palette
2. choose pantones that are replicatable in plastic
3. dont just use HEX codes until the GB's conclusion and assume the vendor can color match plastic chips to a computer screens rgb numbers
4. list your pantones/color chips so people know what to expect
5. list the pantones/color chips you change to along the way in the event your originally chosen pantones/color chips don't match your renders, or you've found a pantone/chip that BETTER reflects the palette AND renders of the set
6. take pictures of your samples in daylight, low-light, indoor lighting...avoid fluorescent settings, try to take pictures of the samples in locations where they'd be seen the MOST...like your desk/office etc....if you need a professional light studio with a professional camera to capture the perfect lighting conditions that makes the set match the render then you're probably going to get a ****ton of flack
7. geniuinely sound like you are trying your hardest to match the original render, dont spend your time gaslighting the dissenting opinions
8. dont replace "your artistic interpretation" of the set with "the literal render representation of the set" AFTER the groupbuys conclusion... people bought what was advertised, not for your artistic integrity...
Also, RAL chips would be more desirable to match to over Pantone, and you can most likely use the RGB/CMYK/Hex associated with them for the renders.
I remember GMK Olivia using a pantone book to match the color perhaps that's a good idea going forward?
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/tvKfgoy.jpg)
This is a good point. Or actual lego bricks, lol. Didn't Zambumon do that with Serika to match the yellow (and it worked out because lego bricks are ABS plastic as well)?
Also, RAL chips would be more desirable to match to over Pantone, and you can most likely use the RGB/CMYK/Hex associated with them for the renders.
Exactly, pantone lists all their rgb and gex values, same with RAL chips,
Im pretty sure theres a few sites that find your rgb/hex values and basically list every single clise approximate to it in both RAL and pantone.
Cant just go off picking a color off a refernece image, gotta do the real life physical color search before you settle on the e-colors.
That looks pretty nice. :cool:
I think part of the issue is that getting color decks for Pantone or RAL can be quite the daunting expense for prospective set designers, and so they try to get by with just going by pictures or online swatches.
Hello I am home from work. Shift went by quickly which is nice.
Now, I will preface this pic, (which I'd say is the best I got in the short amount of time I had to take pics before I left today) and say it's not perfectly accurate but I do feel it captures the colours well.
Additionally, (and I think this is lighting dependant because it changes depending on what room I look at the set in) the modifier keys are a bit darker in some lighting; but only on my X60. The sample looks the same on it's own, so I think it might be due to the caps casting shadows on themselves.
That's a definite oversight on my end, I apologise.
However, the colours are still within what I'd call a reasonable margin of variation.
So now, without further delay..Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/tvKfgoy.jpg)
This is on my bed, with my lights off, window open. So basically natural, but indirect lighting as that seemed to get me the most accurate picture.
So if nothing else, please take the pictures you've seen with a grain of salt as the pictures vary a lot, and wait till you have a set physically in your hands to make a conclusion.
Good night everyone :)
I think part of the issue is that getting color decks for Pantone or RAL can be quite the daunting expense for prospective set designers, and so they try to get by with just going by pictures or online swatches.
GMK literally offers to borrow you pantones for free, there's no excuse.
https://uniqey.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001641213-I-would-like-to-work-with-custom-colors-How-does-the-matching-process-work-
"It is important that the actual color selection is being made with a physical Pantone® Coated chart.
If you don´t have access to a chart, please just send us a message and we will send you a chart as a loan."
Same page for the people blaming GMK:
"Please be aware that the final color release/decision is the responsibility of the designer."
Emir let it go.. I get it you feel super passionate about this set. I get you most likely feel cheated and upset that it didn't turn out the way it was presented. At the end of the day people are going to look at your comments like this. Emir got out of the buy ended up losing almost zero money just sometime. Then just continues to hammer on the Creator.. I don't agree with everything she has done but honestly. I think most people would take her side over yours for the simple amount of grief your causing.
That being said Jessica.. the images you posted look nice I really really like the set. I still want to see more pictures before pulling the trigger cause the Navy set that Emir posted looked terrible. Though not going to trust those photos due to the continued post they been making. I want to get a more unbiased opinion and with other color cases and lighting. I think someone on reddit summoned this up nicely. The set is one that will look completely different depending on a number of variables. Including background colors, lighting, etc. Aka the set isn't very color stable. A simple change of background can completely change the look of the key caps.
Emir let it go.. I get it you feel super passionate about this set. I get you most likely feel cheated and upset that it didn't turn out the way it was presented. At the end of the day people are going to look at your comments like this. Emir got out of the buy ended up losing almost zero money just sometime. Then just continues to hammer on the Creator.. I don't agree with everything she has done but honestly. I think most people would take her side over yours for the simple amount of grief your causing.
That being said Jessica.. the images you posted look nice I really really like the set. I still want to see more pictures before pulling the trigger cause the Navy set that Emir posted looked terrible. Though not going to trust those photos due to the continued post they been making. I want to get a more unbiased opinion and with other color cases and lighting. I think someone on reddit summoned this up nicely. The set is one that will look completely different depending on a number of variables. Including background colors, lighting, etc. Aka the set isn't very color stable. A simple change of background can completely change the look of the key caps.
U want to get an unbiased opinion so you are asking for more photos from Jessica, but you don't trust the ones from Emir? Sorry but that makes no sense at all.
Emir let it go.. I get it you feel super passionate about this set. I get you most likely feel cheated and upset that it didn't turn out the way it was presented. At the end of the day people are going to look at your comments like this. Emir got out of the buy ended up losing almost zero money just sometime. Then just continues to hammer on the Creator.. I don't agree with everything she has done but honestly. I think most people would take her side over yours for the simple amount of grief your causing.
That being said Jessica.. the images you posted look nice I really really like the set. I still want to see more pictures before pulling the trigger cause the Navy set that Emir posted looked terrible. Though not going to trust those photos due to the continued post they been making. I want to get a more unbiased opinion and with other color cases and lighting. I think someone on reddit summoned this up nicely. The set is one that will look completely different depending on a number of variables. Including background colors, lighting, etc. Aka the set isn't very color stable. A simple change of background can completely change the look of the key caps.
U want to get an unbiased opinion so you are asking for more photos from Jessica, but you don't trust the ones from Emir? Sorry but that makes no sense at all.
He said he wanted to see more photos, not more photos from Jessica. The more people who post photos, the more data he will have to inform his decision of whether or not to buy the set. I can't say I blame him either -- Emir seems to have a personal vendetta against the set creator at this point. Plus he even admitted that his photos weren't color-accurate and that he wasn't a good photographer.
I'm personally reserving my judgment until I get my set from Originative.
Emir let it go.. I get it you feel super passionate about this set. I get you most likely feel cheated and upset that it didn't turn out the way it was presented. At the end of the day people are going to look at your comments like this. Emir got out of the buy ended up losing almost zero money just sometime. Then just continues to hammer on the Creator.. I don't agree with everything she has done but honestly. I think most people would take her side over yours for the simple amount of grief your causing.
That being said Jessica.. the images you posted look nice I really really like the set. I still want to see more pictures before pulling the trigger cause the Navy set that Emir posted looked terrible. Though not going to trust those photos due to the continued post they been making. I want to get a more unbiased opinion and with other color cases and lighting. I think someone on reddit summoned this up nicely. The set is one that will look completely different depending on a number of variables. Including background colors, lighting, etc. Aka the set isn't very color stable. A simple change of background can completely change the look of the key caps.
U want to get an unbiased opinion so you are asking for more photos from Jessica, but you don't trust the ones from Emir? Sorry but that makes no sense at all.
He said he wanted to see more photos, not more photos from Jessica. The more people who post photos, the more data he will have to inform his decision of whether or not to buy the set. I can't say I blame him either -- Emir seems to have a personal vendetta against the set creator at this point. Plus he even admitted that his photos weren't color-accurate and that he wasn't a good photographer.
I'm personally reserving my judgment until I get my set from Originative.
Emir let it go.. I get it you feel super passionate about this set. I get you most likely feel cheated and upset that it didn't turn out the way it was presented. At the end of the day people are going to look at your comments like this. Emir got out of the buy ended up losing almost zero money just sometime. Then just continues to hammer on the Creator.. I don't agree with everything she has done but honestly. I think most people would take her side over yours for the simple amount of grief your causing.
That being said Jessica.. the images you posted look nice I really really like the set. I still want to see more pictures before pulling the trigger cause the Navy set that Emir posted looked terrible. Though not going to trust those photos due to the continued post they been making. I want to get a more unbiased opinion and with other color cases and lighting. I think someone on reddit summoned this up nicely. The set is one that will look completely different depending on a number of variables. Including background colors, lighting, etc. Aka the set isn't very color stable. A simple change of background can completely change the look of the key caps.
U want to get an unbiased opinion so you are asking for more photos from Jessica, but you don't trust the ones from Emir? Sorry but that makes no sense at all.
He said he wanted to see more photos, not more photos from Jessica. The more people who post photos, the more data he will have to inform his decision of whether or not to buy the set. I can't say I blame him either -- Emir seems to have a personal vendetta against the set creator at this point. Plus he even admitted that his photos weren't color-accurate and that he wasn't a good photographer.
I'm personally reserving my judgment until I get my set from Originative.
Personal vendetta? please. If you had invested the ~$150 or whatever into this set you might be attached to receiving what you paid for as well.
Maybe lets leave this thread to people who actually bought the set, this topic is getting more and more abstract by the post.
It seems muted colors are a challenge for gmk - are there any sets that have pulled it off?
Emir let it go.. I get it you feel super passionate about this set. I get you most likely feel cheated and upset that it didn't turn out the way it was presented. At the end of the day people are going to look at your comments like this. Emir got out of the buy ended up losing almost zero money just sometime. Then just continues to hammer on the Creator.. I don't agree with everything she has done but honestly. I think most people would take her side over yours for the simple amount of grief your causing.
That being said Jessica.. the images you posted look nice I really really like the set. I still want to see more pictures before pulling the trigger cause the Navy set that Emir posted looked terrible. Though not going to trust those photos due to the continued post they been making. I want to get a more unbiased opinion and with other color cases and lighting. I think someone on reddit summoned this up nicely. The set is one that will look completely different depending on a number of variables. Including background colors, lighting, etc. Aka the set isn't very color stable. A simple change of background can completely change the look of the key caps.
U want to get an unbiased opinion so you are asking for more photos from Jessica, but you don't trust the ones from Emir? Sorry but that makes no sense at all.
He said he wanted to see more photos, not more photos from Jessica. The more people who post photos, the more data he will have to inform his decision of whether or not to buy the set. I can't say I blame him either -- Emir seems to have a personal vendetta against the set creator at this point. Plus he even admitted that his photos weren't color-accurate and that he wasn't a good photographer.
I'm personally reserving my judgment until I get my set from Originative.
I am no expert and I certainly don't know how to take a photo more than point and shoot in an auto mode. However, I can tell you that my photos are more accurate than Jessicas cherry picked specific angle/lighting photo in order to try and save face.
I was probably more passionate about this set than Jessica herself, and had been shilling it in the Swedish keyboard community for months (really, ask any of them - it's a running meme now), so yes - perhaps I do feel a bit upset about Jessica ruining it after spending 220 euro (251 USD).
I do agree that you should wait for your own set before your dissapointment sets in (if you are expecting something like the renders), but I hope you love yours since there's nothing to be done at this point.
Maybe someone who has the set could make a video where they change the lighting and the background in real time to see how the key color changes. Might help people get a better understanding of what the colors actually are like, it's hard to tell from still pictures.
Maybe someone who has the set could make a video where they change the lighting and the background in real time to see how the key color changes. Might help people get a better understanding of what the colors actually are like, it's hard to tell from still pictures.
I agree. Can we get some pictures in different lighting in the meantime? I don't get how the mods look completely 180 degrees different in Emir's pictures and Jessica's pictures. It's like I'm looking at 2 completely different sets.
Maybe someone who has the set could make a video where they change the lighting and the background in real time to see how the key color changes. Might help people get a better understanding of what the colors actually are like, it's hard to tell from still pictures.
I agree. Can we get some pictures in different lighting in the meantime? I don't get how the mods look completely 180 degrees different in Emir's pictures and Jessica's pictures. It's like I'm looking at 2 completely different sets.
The reason they look different is because one photo was taken under studio lighting conditions, and the other one was cherry picked to save face.
I will say that they do look gray/purple under more normal lighting conditions, but even in Jessicas photo you can see the hue is towards what you see in my photo, but the lighting isn't there to highlight it properly.
Maybe someone who has the set could make a video where they change the lighting and the background in real time to see how the key color changes. Might help people get a better understanding of what the colors actually are like, it's hard to tell from still pictures.
I agree. Can we get some pictures in different lighting in the meantime? I don't get how the mods look completely 180 degrees different in Emir's pictures and Jessica's pictures. It's like I'm looking at 2 completely different sets.
The reason they look different is because one photo was taken under studio lighting conditions, and the other one was cherry picked to save face.
I will say that they do look gray/purple under more normal lighting conditions, but even in Jessicas photo you can see the hue is towards what you see in my photo, but the lighting isn't there to highlight it properly.
This is not meant as an attack but just as a note about studio lighting. Studio lighting does not mean true colour representation. All lighting has its own way of changing the way colours look. As well, studio lighting tends to be cooler light and achieves a more blue spectrum of light (again this is not saying what's happening here, just...it's a thing). All studio photography is processed to attain a representation that is more true to the desired look. Just about zero shots are going to come out of the camera looking like it does irl without being processed to do so. I'm not saying yours or Jessica's is more right, just simply noting this.
Can we get to the real issue here... the fact that the Necro delivery happened/will happen when Oco is on vacation so everyone that ordered from them won't be seeing their sets for several weeks. :( (yes, I know it wasn't promised until mid December, but still...)
I guess "a couple" may have been fairer. They don't get back into the office till the 28th so there is one week there. Then time to sort and ship will be another week or two.Can we get to the real issue here... the fact that the Necro delivery happened/will happen when Oco is on vacation so everyone that ordered from them won't be seeing their sets for several weeks. :( (yes, I know it wasn't promised until mid December, but still...)
Oh, I didn't even think about the holiday slowing things down there.
"Several weeks" though?
I guess "a couple" may have been fairer. They don't get back into the office till the 28th so there is one week there. Then time to sort and ship will be another week or two.Can we get to the real issue here... the fact that the Necro delivery happened/will happen when Oco is on vacation so everyone that ordered from them won't be seeing their sets for several weeks. :( (yes, I know it wasn't promised until mid December, but still...)
Oh, I didn't even think about the holiday slowing things down there.
"Several weeks" though?
Yah, I'm usually in no rush, but the question of how the set actually looks in real life has piqued my interest.I guess "a couple" may have been fairer. They don't get back into the office till the 28th so there is one week there. Then time to sort and ship will be another week or two.Can we get to the real issue here... the fact that the Necro delivery happened/will happen when Oco is on vacation so everyone that ordered from them won't be seeing their sets for several weeks. :( (yes, I know it wasn't promised until mid December, but still...)
Oh, I didn't even think about the holiday slowing things down there.
"Several weeks" though?
Good thing I'm not in a super hurry I guess. Still waiting on the board I want to use this set with, plus I might be changing my mind on the pub too. But I can certainly understand if people are getting antsy waiting for their own sets to arrive.
Maybe someone who has the set could make a video where they change the lighting and the background in real time to see how the key color changes. Might help people get a better understanding of what the colors actually are like, it's hard to tell from still pictures.
I agree. Can we get some pictures in different lighting in the meantime? I don't get how the mods look completely 180 degrees different in Emir's pictures and Jessica's pictures. It's like I'm looking at 2 completely different sets.
The reason they look different is because one photo was taken under studio lighting conditions, and the other one was cherry picked to save face.
I will say that they do look gray/purple under more normal lighting conditions, but even in Jessicas photo you can see the hue is towards what you see in my photo, but the lighting isn't there to highlight it properly.
I am no expert and I certainly don't know how to take a photo more than point and shoot in an auto mode. However, I can tell you that my photos are more accurate than Jessicas cherry picked specific angle/lighting photo in order to try and save face.
Maybe someone who has the set could make a video where they change the lighting and the background in real time to see how the key color changes. Might help people get a better understanding of what the colors actually are like, it's hard to tell from still pictures.
I agree. Can we get some pictures in different lighting in the meantime? I don't get how the mods look completely 180 degrees different in Emir's pictures and Jessica's pictures. It's like I'm looking at 2 completely different sets.
The reason they look different is because one photo was taken under studio lighting conditions, and the other one was cherry picked to save face.
I will say that they do look gray/purple under more normal lighting conditions, but even in Jessicas photo you can see the hue is towards what you see in my photo, but the lighting isn't there to highlight it properly.
This is not meant as an attack but just as a note about studio lighting. Studio lighting does not mean true colour representation. All lighting has its own way of changing the way colours look. As well, studio lighting tends to be cooler light and achieves a more blue spectrum of light (again this is not saying what's happening here, just...it's a thing). All studio photography is processed to attain a representation that is more true to the desired look. Just about zero shots are going to come out of the camera looking like it does irl without being processed to do so. I'm not saying yours or Jessica's is more right, just simply noting this.
Maybe someone who has the set could make a video where they change the lighting and the background in real time to see how the key color changes. Might help people get a better understanding of what the colors actually are like, it's hard to tell from still pictures.
I agree. Can we get some pictures in different lighting in the meantime? I don't get how the mods look completely 180 degrees different in Emir's pictures and Jessica's pictures. It's like I'm looking at 2 completely different sets.
The reason they look different is because one photo was taken under studio lighting conditions, and the other one was cherry picked to save face.
I will say that they do look gray/purple under more normal lighting conditions, but even in Jessicas photo you can see the hue is towards what you see in my photo, but the lighting isn't there to highlight it properly.
This is not meant as an attack but just as a note about studio lighting. Studio lighting does not mean true colour representation. All lighting has its own way of changing the way colours look. As well, studio lighting tends to be cooler light and achieves a more blue spectrum of light (again this is not saying what's happening here, just...it's a thing). All studio photography is processed to attain a representation that is more true to the desired look. Just about zero shots are going to come out of the camera looking like it does irl without being processed to do so. I'm not saying yours or Jessica's is more right, just simply noting this.
Thanks for explaining that. I had no idea that lighting could make such a big difference. The pictures gave me the impression that the mods were surely a very saturated dark navy blue in any kind of lighting. I was really disappointed at first, but this gives me some hope :)
While I would take BOTH photos with a grain of salt, what fendent posted isn't entirely true. Studio lighting doesn't meant true color reproduction, that is true, but studio lighting being cooler is all about what specific flashes and gels you use. The main purpose in studio lighting is NOT color, but controlling accents and highlights. Can that effect color? Of course, thats how color works. Generally speaking the more light there is, the easier the camera can capture it without tons of extra processing.
I'd still like to see the colors side by side with the samples, because to my eyes they still don't look like they match, and that would be GMK at fault, not Jessica. It's a shame tho, I really did like the set as rendered, but based on the photos so far, I'm not comfortable buying until i see it in person (some sets like coniferous NEVER photo well IMO, but look fantastic in person).
'Member when we just had keyboardlayouteditor.com for renders? :(
Any news on the NA shipment? The Originative website no longer has necro listed
Any news on the NA shipment? The Originative website no longer has necro listed
They took most pre-order and stuff they didn't want to discount off for Black Friday discount they sent in an email.
However, the colours are still within what I'd call a reasonable margin of variation.
Pixel XL gen 1. Grey British morning weather/light. Pretty hard to take colour accurate photo.
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Mods and accents look much better. The alphas tho 🤮
the greenish alphas still dont explain how the mods were transferred from gray to a purple?
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Did the collab with Bro ever happen? Or did the direction change to ETF?
I just got this Necro set. My honest two cents....Evil80 Brother in arms
If I had never read a word of this thread I would’ve opened the box, taken one look, said "cool" and mounted them. I don't see Navy or Purple or wildish Green or anything inciting a three-alarm panic. Nor would I be so thrown-off from what I was expecting that I would have studied them under different tungsten, studio, and daylight conditions. To me, real-talk, in my office, they just look like what I ordered. You may disagree.
I dont mean to post these photos to incite riots of comments (unedited, iPhone7). But casually speaking to me they're just --- fine. Sure, I was secretly wondering if it would be the Handarbeit of muted greens and blues, but it wasn’t. Looking forward to what others think when they get theirs.
I just got this Necro set. My honest two cents....
If I never read a word of this thread I would’ve opened the box, taken one look, said "cool" then mounted them. I don't see Navy or Purple or wildish Green or anything inciting a three-alarm panic. Nor would I be so thrown-off from what I was expecting that I would have studied them under different tungsten, studio, and daylight conditions. To me, real-talk, in my office, they just look like what I ordered. You may disagree.
I don't mean to post these photos to incite riots (unedited, iPhone7). But casually speaking and to me they're just --- fine. Sure, I was secretly wondering if it would be the Handarbeit of muted greens and blues, but it wasn’t. Looking forward to what others think when they get theirs.
I just got this Necro set. My honest two cents....
If I never read a word of this thread I would’ve opened the box, taken one look, said "cool" then mounted them. I don't see Navy or Purple or wildish Green or anything inciting a three-alarm panic. Nor would I be so thrown-off from what I was expecting that I would have studied them under different tungsten, studio, and daylight conditions. To me, real-talk, in my office, they just look like what I ordered. You may disagree.
I don't mean to post these photos to incite riots (unedited, iPhone7). But casually speaking and to me they're just --- fine. Sure, I was secretly wondering if it would be the Handarbeit of muted greens and blues, but it wasn’t. Looking forward to what others think when they get theirs.
did ETF get caps to match too? I have a feeling these are gonna be neat
I just got this Necro set. My honest two cents....
If I never read a word of this thread I would’ve opened the box, taken one look, said "cool" then mounted them. I don't see Navy or Purple or wildish Green or anything inciting a three-alarm panic. Nor would I be so thrown-off from what I was expecting that I would have studied them under different tungsten, studio, and daylight conditions. To me, real-talk, in my office, they just look like what I ordered. You may disagree.
Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?I received a shipping email but it's still in pre shipment for me.
Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?
Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?
I have a tracking number and it appears to be in the hands of the USPS now.
(Hasn't yet progressed enough for me to get a ETA.)
same, I expect it not till January knowing the speed stuff arrives to me, still cant wait to see it in person and the ETF I won.Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?
I have a tracking number and it appears to be in the hands of the USPS now.
(Hasn't yet progressed enough for me to get a ETA.)
Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?
I have a tracking number and it appears to be in the hands of the USPS now.
(Hasn't yet progressed enough for me to get a ETA.)same, I expect it not till January knowing the speed stuff arrives to me, still cant wait to see it in person and the ETF I won.Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?
I have a tracking number and it appears to be in the hands of the USPS now.
(Hasn't yet progressed enough for me to get a ETA.)
Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?
I have a tracking number and it appears to be in the hands of the USPS now.
(Hasn't yet progressed enough for me to get a ETA.)same, I expect it not till January knowing the speed stuff arrives to me, still cant wait to see it in person and the ETF I won.Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?
I have a tracking number and it appears to be in the hands of the USPS now.
(Hasn't yet progressed enough for me to get a ETA.)
Whelp, I am concerned. I have yet to hear anything yet...
I haven't heard anything yet from Originative either. The order is still marked as unfulfilled with no tracking number; being shipped to Canada.
I haven't heard anything yet from Originative either. The order is still marked as unfulfilled with no tracking number; being shipped to Canada.
Have you tried reaching out to Originative? Wendy was very responsive to emails when I had concerns.
I haven't heard anything yet from Originative either. The order is still marked as unfulfilled with no tracking number; being shipped to Canada.
Have you tried reaching out to Originative? Wendy was very responsive to emails when I had concerns.
I sent an email the other day but no response yet
I haven't heard anything yet from Originative either. The order is still marked as unfulfilled with no tracking number; being shipped to Canada.
Have you tried reaching out to Originative? Wendy was very responsive to emails when I had concerns.
I sent an email the other day but no response yet
I received a response from Wendy:
"Sorry about the delay. Choosing winners for the Nightcaps raffle caused a bit of delay, but we should to get to your order in the next couple days!"
Just got mine in the mail today, here's a few pics.That looks real nice!
Just got mine in the mail today, here's a few pics.
Apparently I was a winner in the Nightcaps raffle... I have to admit, I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't get the appeal of ETF's artisans sometimes.
Apparently I was a winner in the Nightcaps raffle... I have to admit, I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't get the appeal of ETF's artisans sometimes.
If you don't want it, I'll give it a good home! :)
One small complaint is that the light blue keys have different text colors...when mixing and matching the light blue arrows and novelties that stood out to me a little.
light blue novelties - text color is the color of the regular mods
light blue mods (arrows, enter) - text color is darker than the novelties
Just got my set.
While I'm fairly happy with it, I think the gray is much darker than what is represented in the renders, even taking color correction into account.
I feel this creates a higher contrast across the set and detracts from the washed-out and "dead" vibe.
Definitely don't regret getting it but I think a lighter gray, basically the gray that is used for the word "Necro" on the box, would have made this set perfect.
One small complaint is that the light blue keys have different text colors...when mixing and matching the light blue arrows and novelties that stood out to me a little.
light blue novelties - text color is the color of the regular mods
light blue mods (arrows, enter) - text color is darker than the novelties
Hi!
I'm happy to hear you got your set!
Though, I am curious what you mean by the accent colour legends, as they are both meant to be dark blue (on both the novelties and regular icon mods such as enter and arrows)
The legend colours are as intended in my sample set I got from GMK, so if you wouldn't mind taking pics of the keys (the top legends, as well as the underside of the key to show the doubleshot colour clearly) so that I can check it out? Because if the text colour on some of the blue keys is gray like the mods, that is an error on GMK's part and we'll go from there.
Thank you, have a good weekend!
Just got mine in the mail today, here's a few pics.What was the name of the artisan you got (I am new to this area)?
Just got mine in the mail today, here's a few pics.What was the name of the artisan you got (I am new to this area)?
Just got mine in the mail today, here's a few pics.What was the name of the artisan you got (I am new to this area)?
Nighcaps Halfshell V2
Received my set yesterday. The accent (teal) and mods (gray) look good. I really wish the gray was a bit more washed out like the renders, but atleast they’re not navy blue in person which some photos suggested.
The alphas on the other hand ruin the entire set. They’re green. Light mint green and nowhere near acceptable deviation from the renders which were cream with a very slight hint of green. Lesson learned I suppose to never join a GB without color codes since what was showed to us did not align with the designer’s vision. In hindsight, the reason for not wanting to share color codes should have been a red flag to me.
Going on mechmarket if anyone is interested.
Received my set yesterday. The accent (teal) and mods (gray) look good. I really wish the gray was a bit more washed out like the renders, but atleast they’re not navy blue in person which some photos suggested.
The alphas on the other hand ruin the entire set. They’re green. Light mint green and nowhere near acceptable deviation from the renders which were cream with a very slight hint of green. Lesson learned I suppose to never join a GB without color codes since what was showed to us did not align with the designer’s vision. In hindsight, the reason for not wanting to share color codes should have been a red flag to me.
Going on mechmarket if anyone is interested.
On an semi related note: If anyone got their Nightcaps Necro caps and is interested in trading for a different sculpt, I got an Idyllwild (I think I spelled that right..) and would love a Menloe, either Eggface, Skullthulu or Fugthulu. Just not interested in the blank unless that was a group with another cap?
Happy new year :)
Is there a place where we can see all these different artisan versions?
Received my set yesterday. The accent (teal) and mods (gray) look good. I really wish the gray was a bit more washed out like the renders, but atleast they’re not navy blue in person which some photos suggested.
The alphas on the other hand ruin the entire set. They’re green. Light mint green and nowhere near acceptable deviation from the renders which were cream with a very slight hint of green. Lesson learned I suppose to never join a GB without color codes since what was showed to us did not align with the designer’s vision. In hindsight, the reason for not wanting to share color codes should have been a red flag to me.
Going on mechmarket if anyone is interested.
The set went through so many different samples / colours in the sampling process that I just didn't see the point in keeping that constantly updated. I definitely didn't intentionally hold out on what codes were used or anything, just never felt the need I guess? Especially since the colours are physical booklets that don't translate exactly to the comparisons you find online.
If anyone is still interested, the green gray and dark blue RAL. RAL 160 80 20, RAL 240 20 22, RAL 260 40 10 (I'm not 100% sure these are the final colours I went with but this is the only list I can find in my emails) and the blue was colour matched to a gift bag I found in a craft store, since the blue was proving to be really tough.
Sorry to hear you're not satisfied with the set, but I do appreciate your support regardless :)
Agreed. That green RAL is way too green... but the keycaps match damn near perfectly!Received my set yesterday. The accent (teal) and mods (gray) look good. I really wish the gray was a bit more washed out like the renders, but atleast they’re not navy blue in person which some photos suggested.
The alphas on the other hand ruin the entire set. They’re green. Light mint green and nowhere near acceptable deviation from the renders which were cream with a very slight hint of green. Lesson learned I suppose to never join a GB without color codes since what was showed to us did not align with the designer’s vision. In hindsight, the reason for not wanting to share color codes should have been a red flag to me.
Going on mechmarket if anyone is interested.
The set went through so many different samples / colours in the sampling process that I just didn't see the point in keeping that constantly updated. I definitely didn't intentionally hold out on what codes were used or anything, just never felt the need I guess? Especially since the colours are physical booklets that don't translate exactly to the comparisons you find online.
If anyone is still interested, the green gray and dark blue RAL. RAL 160 80 20, RAL 240 20 22, RAL 260 40 10 (I'm not 100% sure these are the final colours I went with but this is the only list I can find in my emails) and the blue was colour matched to a gift bag I found in a craft store, since the blue was proving to be really tough.
Sorry to hear you're not satisfied with the set, but I do appreciate your support regardless :)
GMK matched the colors very good to the RAL codes, but the codes doesn't match the final color renders at all...I'm very disappointed by the designers color decision.