[IC] GMK Chocolatier - Available For Pre-Order!

[Zambumon]

GMK Chocolatier and RAMA Chocolatier Brass keycaps are available for preorder!

Preorder window will be open from October 5th to November 5th.





Where to buy:

- North America: Novelkeys
  - GMK Chocolatier:
    - Core: $145
    - Novelties: $35
    - Spacebars: $30
  - Rama Golden Ticket/Blue X/Blue O: $56

- Europe: MykeyboardEU (prices including VAT)
  - GMK Chocolatier
    - Core: 141.99€
    - Novelties: 39€
    - Spacebars: 32€
  - Rama Golden Ticket/Blue X/Blue O: TBA€

- China: ZFrontier
  -GMK Chocolatier:
    - Core: ¥1048
    - Novelties: ¥248
    - Spacebars: ¥210
  - Rama Golden Ticket/Blue X/Blue O: ¥392

- Asia (Korea, Japan, SEA...), Australia, and New Zealand: ZFrontier
  - GMK Chocolatier:
    - Core: $165
    - Novelties: $38
    - Spacebars: $32
  - Rama Golden Ticket/Blue X/Blue O: $56
 *Note: ZFrontier has free shipping via DHL Express for orders over $100.

Order Count

Please, head over to https://zambumon.com/chocolatier/ to check the current order numbers


Greetings to you, the lucky finder of this keyset. After more than two years, we finally meet again
(I shake you warmly by the hand). Once again, my factory is open for visitors, so please go ahead and
come to taste the new flavours produced in our German facilities!

Released almost two years ago, SA Chocolatier was the first keycap set that I’ve ever made. Inspired by the
chocolate wrappers of the 2005 motion picture adaptation of Roald Dahl’s masterpiece, Charlie and the
Chocolate Factory, GMK Chocolatier is the second iteration of this set.



Q: Why am I using blue accents?
A: Because my idea for SA Chocolatier was initially to release the set in three flavours

Technical specs

• Original Cherry Corp. profile
• High quality 1.5mm thick keycaps with doublsehot legends that will never fade.
• Made in Germany by GMK electronic design GmbH
• Custom chocolate colors matched to what the SA run should have looked like.

Q: What do you mean with "what the SA run should have looked like?"
A: Chocolatier's alphas (as well as the modifiers) were washed off compared to the plastic samples
I had with me. the difference is quite noticeable with 1976 and some people (including me)
noticed that the spacebar had a stronger color than the rest of the alphas.


Serika dekmat + Chocolatier by Zambumon



Available kits

Core



After some consideration, I've opted for a more conservative approach for the core of this set, although with
some minor eccentricity.

With the goal of encouraging the reusability of these keycaps with other sets, I’ve also included a second
Tab key. With just that extra key, now people could potentially use Chocolatier’s modifiers at the same time
in, for example, an HHKB and a standard fullsize keyboard.



Novelties



By popular demand, the novelties are back!
A small pack of novelties that adds some more options for your enter and escape keys.


Spacebars



Some people like to have an accent color even on their spacebars.
This kit provides all the spacebars you’d need in GMK Chocolatier’s blue accent color.



Gallery

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Uniqey C70




Uniqey Q100


Desk Candy Modern M0110






What's going on, what happens now?
This is an interest check for GMK Chocolatier. And although I've figured out the kits and there won't be any
major change or any new kit (aside the consideration of adding Novelties) it's time to gather interest,
get quotes, and color samples.

Two weeks ago, I sent GMK a package to the factory which contained some plastic color samples,
which were inmediatly forwarded to their plastic supplier. Given how well the process went with Serika, I'm
confident that they'll meet my request and we'll get the perfect colors for this set.

I've also been in talks with Novelkeys as I'm interested on having him as the US distributor of not only the
set, but also other extras, such as a deskmat.

The approach for my sets has changed over the years and it has accentuated with Jamón, Chocolatier, and
ISJGEFTWC (also known as Samurai Blue). I want the set to be functional and affordable, I want the stores
to have an easy time packaging and sending the sets, I want the keycaps to have a good QC, and I want
the manufacturer to have an easy time making these sets by not offering an overwhelming number of kits.


Regarding collaborations, don't hesitate to contact me, over Discord, filling up the form, reddit, etc.
There are plenty of ways to do it
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[dimo]

Zamb just won't stop--

but there's no normal ISO enter in the alpha color at all?

[Photoelectric]

YES

[OracleKev]

Love what you're doing WRT US/Euro kits and Tab key.

[Vigrith]

As we've spoke about before, your decision to have 2 base kits is going to be extremely interesting to watch play out.

Very exciting and best of luck!

[nu_types]

Nice! Hmm any possibility for red accents?

[kim-kim]

If I still can't find SA Chocolatier Ergodox, I'm in
Of course I'll sell my remaining SA Choc that I have

[a_ak57]

I'm no ISO heathen, but I feel like it'd be a better idea to have the ISO enter be brown since I imagine more people would opt for the full chocolate look over the accent.

[Zambumon]

Zamb just won’t stop

And the only way to get an ISO enter in the accent color is through the 2nd EU base kit?

Yes, the idea is that the people from the EU would get the set from an EU store, and not from an US or a Chinese one. Basically it's just a core kit where buying an ISO kit is mandatory (so like any previous kit). It might or might not work well, but considering the growth of EU stores, this could have a very good outcome.

Nice! Hmm any possibility for red accents?

None. Having the red accents means increasing the size of all of the kits, and that wouldn't be consistent with with my reasoning for how I'm arranging the kits.

[dimo]

I'm no ISO heathen, but I feel like it'd be a better idea to have the ISO enter be brown since I imagine more people would opt for the full chocolate look over the accent.

"Bringing more visibility to the European store selling this set, as ISO users will outrage for the lack of those
keycaps for the US version."

So he wants the US users to buy from the European store just to bring visibility to it instead of buying from US stores not selling the ISO support?? what?

[avid]

please no ISO accent color. Cant you just make ISO enter brown?

The blue doesnt fit at all. It was the same thing with nautilus. If you make accent colors, please dont force them as a part of crucial compatability but rather have them as extras..

[Zambumon]

I'm no ISO heathen, but I feel like it'd be a better idea to have the ISO enter be brown since I imagine more people would opt for the full chocolate look over the accent.

"Bringing more visibility to the European store selling this set, as ISO users will outrage for the lack of those
keycaps for the US version."

So he wants the US users to buy from the European store just to bring visibility to it instead of buying from US stores not selling the ISO support?? what?

US costumers buy from an US store, EU costumers buy from the EU one. An overwhelming majority of Americans uses ANSI.

Here is what it's actually going on:

All the proxies have the same base kit, without the ISO Keys, because of the lack of these keys (one of those is the ISO one which is pretty big), we get a cheaper base kit. The EU costumers, that don't have to pay import taxes since the set is made and shipped from the EU, get the base kit with the ISO keys bundled. So basically, what really is going on is that they arer purchasing a base kit (which has that shared MOQ) and an ISO kit (which has a separate MOQ). Since the ISO will be produced in a lower volume, the least keycaps we have the better and considering. Based on most pictures of previous sets such as Godspeed, Carbon, or Nautilus, most people tend to use the accent enter, so that's why I opted to preserve the blue one.

[Rumblehotep]

The blue just seems too jarring a contrast. 
I think gold from the willy wonka novelty looked best for accents but white/offwhite (carob?) would go well too thematically

[brooklynlou]

+1 to gold. The blue just looks too dark with all that brown. Gold or Beige is the way to go ...

[Photoelectric]

I wouldn't use the blue accents myself either.  I'd recommend "white chocolate" cream accents with brown legends.

[chuckdee]

Not all about the blue accents either.  Is it possible to have 2 x 2U in 40s kit?

[a_ak57]

I'm no ISO heathen, but I feel like it'd be a better idea to have the ISO enter be brown since I imagine more people would opt for the full chocolate look over the accent.

"Bringing more visibility to the European store selling this set, as ISO users will outrage for the lack of those
keycaps for the US version."

So he wants the US users to buy from the European store just to bring visibility to it instead of buying from US stores not selling the ISO support?? what?

US costumers buy from an US store, EU costumers buy from the EU one. An overwhelming majority of Americans uses ANSI.

Here is what it's actually going on:

All the proxies have the same base kit, without the ISO Keys, because of the lack of these keys (one of those is the ISO one which is pretty big), we get a cheaper base kit. The EU costumers, that don't have to pay import taxes since the set is made and shipped from the EU, get the base kit with the ISO keys bundled. So basically, what really is going on is that they arer purchasing a base kit (which has that shared MOQ) and an ISO kit (which has a separate MOQ). Since the ISO will be produced in a lower volume, the least keycaps we have the better and considering. Based on most pictures of previous sets such as Godspeed, Carbon, or Nautilus, most people tend to use the accent enter, so that's why I opted to preserve the blue one.

I feel like that's generally the case when the accent has prominence elsewhere in the set by default so they truly do serve to accent a color, though I guess Godspeed would be an exception.  I am not trying to   threadcrap but to me the blue here is like the red/blue in Granite, i.e. a stark contrast that I think many wouldn't use.

[Zambumon]

Not all about the blue accents either.  Is it possible to have 2 x 2U in 40s kit?

The 40s kit will probably have some changes, I accidentally set off the visibility of a 1.75U R4 key, and I might add some keycaps to support the Atreus, Preonic, SUbatomic... A second 2U might be possible, as it would help with a keyboard such as the Ergo travel.

[Photoelectric]

I wouldn't use the blue accents myself either.  I'd recommend "white chocolate" cream accents with brown legends.

On that note, a muted mauve kind of color with brown legends could stand in for strawberry filling or berry chocolate color.  There's such thing as pink chocolate now:


(source: https://www.eater.com/2017/9/5/16256992/ruby-chocolate-callebaut-millennial-pink)

[xondat]

Didn't think I'd be a fan of this, turns out I was wrong.

Really like the blue accents too. I never use accents, but I'd probably use this.

[bluesclera]

Off topic but is the Zambumon F96H  keyboard real or photoshopped? Very nice i would buy.

[lendflat]

How about F1-F4 & F9-F12 addon to match F5-F8 color? Me the only one that hate the alternating Fn colors?

[AndyTC]

Nvm.

[oh_chesteroni]

The blue accent is a bit too jarring for me as well. With the browns being nice warms colors and blue being a cool color, it just stands out like a sore thumb. It may look better if you consider the lighter blue from the chocolate wrappers that you linked (if you insist on using blue), but on the other hand, consideration towards a warm reddish and/or orangish color (also seen in the chocolate wrappers you linked) may work even better.

[mgsickler]

I would love to see some novelties come to life. I’m a sucker for them for all sets.

[kwerdenker]

Since you're doing a EU/NA split anyways, how big are the chance of a NorDe/International kit for this? I really, really would love a chance to own this set but I can't give up my ISO-DE.

Oh and I also want to add my vote for an alpha colored enter key in both core sets

[dimo]

The blue accent is a bit too jarring for me as well. With the browns being nice warms colors and blue being a cool color, it just stands out like a sore thumb. It may look better if you consider the lighter blue from the chocolate wrappers that you linked (if you insist on using blue), but on the other hand, consideration towards a warm reddish and/or orangish color (also seen in the chocolate wrappers you linked) may work even better.

IMO the browns in this set are a lot cooler than the pictures of SA Chocolatier in reality. I don't like the blue either (and would love a normal ISO enter..) but the coolness between the colors work for what he wants-- although it's not what I want.

[moecoffee059]

Blue is the best hehehe

[PaultheSloth]

Definitely keen on this!

[Zambumon]

Off topic but is the Zambumon F96H  keyboard real or photoshopped? Very nice i would buy.

Real model, I'll probably work on it in 2019, but might do some prototype in Q4 2018.

How about F1-F4 & F9-F12 addon to match F5-F8 color? Me the only one that hate the alternating Fn colors?

That's kit that isn't usually made with GMK sets as it doesn't provide any extra coverage. As I've stated in the OP, I don't have any plans to add more kits (with the exception of the novelties, which I'm currently considering).

Since you're doing a EU/NA split anyways, how big are the chance of a NorDe/International kit for this? I really, really would love a chance to own this set but I can't give up my ISO-DE.

Oh and I also want to add my vote for an alpha colored enter key in both core sets

Extremely small/none. International kits have performed poorly regardless of the profile. We are making enough experiments with the base kit and having a kit like NORDE is never easy.



It seems like there's an majority of people that would like the novelties to come back, so I'll study what will be the best way to incorporate them. Don't expect a massive kit, it will probably be a small one with one or two new molds, as well as some yellow accent keys. That way everybody should be happy witht being able to make the OG color scheme.

[lemur]

The blue accents are not good.

[dimo]

Why are you using previous public opinion on previous keyset colors? Peoples opinions change... just because 80% of people used the yellow key on nautilus doesn’t mean 80% of the people using Chocolatier will use the blue accent color, and therefore making you cut the normal modifier colored ISO enter our of the kit.

[Puddsy]

Would personally prefer a green or white accent, but overall a good set.

[Cloudnine25]

The blue just seems too jarring a contrast. 
I think gold from the willy wonka novelty looked best for accents but white/offwhite (carob?) would go well too thematically

+1
IMHO,the gold or white(beige) is going well with the brown alphas and mods!
Please consider:)

[kehlad]

Will definitely buy a set whenever it goes on sale. Though I have to agree with the other posters. The blue does not look that great with the rest of of the caps.

[chuckdee]

Not all about the blue accents either.  Is it possible to have 2 x 2U in 40s kit?

The 40s kit will probably have some changes, I accidentally set off the visibility of a 1.75U R4 key, and I might add some keycaps to support the Atreus, Preonic, SUbatomic... A second 2U might be possible, as it would help with a keyboard such as the Ergo travel.

That would be awesome!  Thanks for considering it in any case.

[shower_king]

Would personally prefer a green or white accent, but overall a good set.

green or yellow, my 
BTW, 250 MOQ for custom color in GMK GB is pretty difficult to reach except for Mass drop. do you have a plan B?

[gnunin]

The blue accent is so nice. I'll grab at least 1 kit for sure. As always Zambumon, great work.

[bthezebra]

Sweet patience.

[Zambumon]

So after gathering some initial feedback, here is what I'll probably do:

• Core:
  
  • EU: brown ISO enter
  • In general: the only reason why I've kept the mod-color pipe and tilde is so you can use them with the rest of the mods. However, while doing the IC for the Japanese Soccer themed set Samurai Blue, I've realized that these are actually redundant and people could just use the alphas from other sets, as it is supossed to be. Redundancy should be avoided when possible, and I could swap those keys for others that add some extra coverage.
• 40s
  
  • The kit needs some updates to accomodate an amalgam of users. Firstly, the kit not only provides the keycaps to cover 40 percent keyboards, but also many ortholinear boards.
  • Additions: 1x 1.75 R4 blank, 1x 1.25 R4 blank, R4 1.25U Shift, R3 1U Enter, 2x 2.00U Vertical R2-3 blanks. These keycaps should be enough to provide coverage for Preonic, Atreus, Iris, Dactyl...
• Novelties: it will be small, but it will allow people to get the vibes from the R1, at least to some extent:
  
  • R4 1.00U, 1.25U, 1.5U novelty W
  • Yellow, and red Enter & Esc. I'll use N6 and P3 for those, as those are close enough to waht I'm looking for.
  • Blue arrows
• Spacebars: remove blue arrows. I'll consider adding some small spacebars there.

[chuckdee]

nice update!

[mousetrap00]

If novelties would cover a red/off-white/gold enter and esc key i wouldn't the blue that's included. Otherwise blue just makes it a but too dark for me. Id rather go full chocolate

[Zambumon]

If novelties would cover a red/off-white/gold enter and esc key i wouldn't the blue that's included. Otherwise blue just makes it a but too dark for me. Id rather go full chocolate

No, just gold and I opted for red too as it was one of the wrapper colors too. The blue will stay on the base kit.

[Zambumon]

By popular demand, these are coming back 

[Puddsy]

By popular demand, these are coming back 

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good ****

[mousetrap00]

By popular demand, these are coming back 

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Sweet!

[OracleKev]

By popular demand, these are coming back 

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Awesome! They are such signature for Chocolatier.

[mousetrap00]

I was going for gmk oasis being that it's the closest thing to a gmk chocolatier. So im really happy this showed up. Cant wait for the gb of this and jamon. Im gonna get both!!!

[xondat]

By popular demand, these are coming back 

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Looks good. I might even use a yellow esc and blue enter.

[Zambumon]

Small kit update, which covers some of the points I posted yesterday. 40s kit update will be done after I add some new renders with the novelties

[mousetrap00]

Small kit update, which covers some of the points I posted yesterday. 40s kit update will be done after I add some new renders with the novelties

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Ow maaaan!!! This is just getting better and better!!! I kenaaat wait nymore!!!

[Zambumon]

40s kit update:

Improved the support for some layouts, dropped the accent keys so people could have a more classic look, added more spacebars and some of the keys that I accidentally switched off the visibility while rendering.


This kit has been designed to add that extra bit of compatibility that some 40 percent keyboards need due to their split spacebars, and small enter keys. With this kit, keyboards such as the Planck, Minorca*, Sebright, JD40, JD45*, Vortex Core, Golbat, Quark, or Pearl would be covered. A 2.00 shift has also been included to support the OLKB Subatomic, the only keyboard that should be using a 2.00 Shift.

Some other keyboard such as Iris, Atreus, or Minidox can be covered in some of their configurations.

[mousetrap00]

Any target date for this sweetness?

[cyyz]

Hi,

any chance of getting similar novelties to the SA version? Such as the R1 red "w", the elevator, Golden ticket and maybe the Up and Out key.

Set is looking awesome, really looking forward to it.

[shower_king]

yellow accent is much better.
Yellow is compatible with chocolatier theme.

[Zambumon]

Hi,

any chance of getting similar novelties to the SA version? Such as the R1 red "w", the elevator, Golden ticket and maybe the Up and Out key.

Set is looking awesome, really looking forward to it.

Each novelty (meaning by novelty a making a new legend) requires some extra cost. In low quantities, this makes the novelties pack more and more expensive. This is one of the reason why the enter and escape key have remained with "Esc" and "Enter" instead of a W and "Golden ticket". Adding more novelties will be a matter of interest for this set.

[kim-kim]

40s kit update:

Improved the support for some layouts, dropped the accent keys so people could have a more classic look, added more spacebars and some of the keys that I accidentally switched off the visibility while rendering.

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This kit has been designed to add that extra bit of compatibility that some 40 percent keyboards need due to their split spacebars, and small enter keys. With this kit, keyboards such as the Planck, Minorca*, Sebright, JD40, JD45*, Vortex Core, Golbat, Quark, or Pearl would be covered. A 2.00 shift has also been included to support the OLKB Subatomic, the only keyboard that should be using a 2.00 Shift.

Some other keyboard such as Iris, Atreus, or Minidox can be covered in some of their configurations.

Any plan to add 1u R3 control key in this kit?

[Zambumon]

40s kit update:

Improved the support for some layouts, dropped the accent keys so people could have a more classic look, added more spacebars and some of the keys that I accidentally switched off the visibility while rendering.

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This kit has been designed to add that extra bit of compatibility that some 40 percent keyboards need due to their split spacebars, and small enter keys. With this kit, keyboards such as the Planck, Minorca*, Sebright, JD40, JD45*, Vortex Core, Golbat, Quark, or Pearl would be covered. A 2.00 shift has also been included to support the OLKB Subatomic, the only keyboard that should be using a 2.00 Shift.

Some other keyboard such as Iris, Atreus, or Minidox can be covered in some of their configurations.

Any plan to add 1u R3 control key in this kit?

At this moment the kit is actually pretty big and it covers most of the 40s default layouts. Adding redundancy wouldn't be beneficial at this point.

[cyyz]

Hi,

any chance of getting similar novelties to the SA version? Such as the R1 red "w", the elevator, Golden ticket and maybe the Up and Out key.

Set is looking awesome, really looking forward to it.

Each novelty (meaning by novelty a making a new legend) requires some extra cost. In low quantities, this makes the novelties pack more and more expensive. This is one of the reason why the enter and escape key have remained with "Esc" and "Enter" instead of a W and "Golden ticket". Adding more novelties will be a matter of interest for this set.

I see your point, although i think the legends would make the set that much more appealing and the cost could be justifiable.

[Cloudnine25]

yes!
IMHO, the "golden ticket" and the elevator cap are spirits of Chocolatier keycap set!
This is because the story behind this set is the movie itself.
And it really helps the set stand out imo. 

[Kerasan]

yes!
IMHO, the "golden ticket" and the elevator cap are spirits of Chocolatier keycap set!
This is because the story behind this set is the movie itself.
And it really helps the set stand out imo. 

Zambumon has been very clear lately with his new line of thinking about keysets. However, for this set he could make an exception to the rule, especially because in this case it would make sense.

KMK Labs.

[Athlio]

Any possibility of a yellow spacebar kit? Or will there be no spacebar kit for this set?

EDIT: Nevermind, I see the blue spacebar kit now. Not sure how I missed that.

[mousetrap00]

I cant get enough looking at this set here and on ig. I hope this one comes sooner rather than later

[Zambumon]

Added some extra renders featuring the novelties and accent keys to the OP.

[mousetrap00]

Added some extra renders featuring the novelties and accent keys to the OP.

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Yellow really is the best for me

[OracleKev]

Added some extra renders featuring the novelties and accent keys to the OP.

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Yellow really is the best for me

It's not Yellow!  It's Gold! 

[MikeTheTiger]

40s kit update:

Improved the support for some layouts, dropped the accent keys so people could have a more classic look, added more spacebars and some of the keys that I accidentally switched off the visibility while rendering.

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This kit has been designed to add that extra bit of compatibility that some 40 percent keyboards need due to their split spacebars, and small enter keys. With this kit, keyboards such as the Planck, Minorca*, Sebright, JD40, JD45*, Vortex Core, Golbat, Quark, or Pearl would be covered. A 2.00 shift has also been included to support the OLKB Subatomic, the only keyboard that should be using a 2.00 Shift.

Some other keyboard such as Iris, Atreus, or Minidox can be covered in some of their configurations.

Another set without Minivan support. I’m starting to notice a trend.

[Zambumon]

GMK has informed me that they are sending me some color matched samples and that they look very good. We can expect them to arrive either this or next week.

[mousetrap00]

GMK has informed me that they are sending me some color matched samples and that they look very good. We can expect them to arrive either this or next week.

Gb confirmed!!!  ) )

[Zambumon]

Chocolatier samples are here!



These were color matched to an SA 1976 spacebar (same color code as Chocolatier’s alphas but way different end result) and Chocolatier’s modifiers.

These are great news, these two colors are final. I might have to adjust a little bit the renders because these are fantastic.

[Photoelectric]

Yum, I don't know if it will be healthy to want to eat my keycaps every time I look at them.

[Rumblehotep]

I really wish chocolate niu minis weren't sold out now

[chuckdee]

Do we have an idea when this will drop?

[Zambumon]

Do we have an idea when this will drop?

I'll make an update regarding that once I get quotes from GMK.

[mousetrap00]

Do we have an idea when this will drop?

I'll make an update regarding that once I get quotes from GMK.

Chocomadness is upon us!!!!

[kim-kim]

Any chances to make it チョコレート?

[Oblotzky]

Any chances to make it チョコレート?

[oldcat]

Another must-have. Thanks.

[glubazoid]

The colors looks fantastic, really deep and saturated

[Zambumon]

Any chances to make it チョコレート?

Oblotzky already answered, but just to make sure:

No.

[kim-kim]

Any chances to make it チョコレート?

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Any chances to make it チョコレート?

Oblotzky already answered, but just to make sure:

No.

So sad, but thanks for the confirmation :(

[Kerasan]

blue, red and the yellow are very beautiful with these colors,  gmk chacolatier seems to be great for mix between various sets. imho
do you have the same impression? I would be curious of your opinions about it.

KMK Labs.

[chuckdee]

Any chances to make it チョコレート?

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Any chances to make it チョコレート?

Oblotzky already answered, but just to make sure:

No.

So sad, but thanks for the confirmation :(

Were you actually serious?  I thought it was just a prank... which was the reason I thought the answer was what it was.

[kim-kim]

Were you actually serious?  I thought it was just a prank... which was the reason I thought the answer was what it was.

Yes, one liner doesn't mean prank question LOL
I think adding Japanese chars on this set would be nice, but it's just IMHO

[chuckdee]

Were you actually serious?  I thought it was just a prank... which was the reason I thought the answer was what it was.

Yes, one liner doesn't mean prank question LOL
I think adding Japanese chars on this set would be nice, but it's just IMHO

I understand what it means.  Chocolate.  What did you mean adding the Hiragana characters?  That wasn't evident to me.  And in that case, yeah... I'd agree with the resounding no.

[Al41]

I can't wait for this. Wallet is ready. Great stuff Zambumon 

[kim-kim]

I understand what it means.  Chocolate.  What did you mean adding the Hiragana characters?  That wasn't evident to me.  And in that case, yeah... I'd agree with the resounding no.

The one that included in GMK Laser, GMK Samurai Red, GMK Metaverse, and upcoming GMK Samurai Blue. Those Japanese characters are called hiragana

[chuckdee]

I understand what it means.  Chocolate.  What did you mean adding the Hiragana characters?  That wasn't evident to me.  And in that case, yeah... I'd agree with the resounding no.

The one that included in GMK Laser, GMK Samurai Red, GMK Metaverse, and upcoming GMK Samurai Blue. Those Japanese characters are called hiragana

Didn't I just ... say that?  Let me see...

What did you mean adding the Hiragana characters?

[Photoelectric]

While I understand the allure of secondary legends, I think such an addition has to make sense with the overall theme of a set.  In this case, a random addition of Hiragana alphabet is, well, random and doesn't make sense.  Why not Cyrillic, or symbol, or anything else?  It's a "Chocolate"-themed set, so there's no need for other legends, other than maybe on novelty caps.  I could actually see this set having an optional kit with no legends at all, to look like a literal box of chocolates.

[Zambumon]

While I understand the allure of secondary legends, I think such an addition has to make sense with the overall theme of a set.  In this case, a random addition of Hiragana alphabet is, well, random and doesn't make sense.  Why not Cyrillic, or symbol, or anything else?  It's a "Chocolate"-themed set, so there's no need for other legends, other than maybe on novelty caps.  I could actually see this set having an optional kit with no legends at all, to look like a literal box of chocolates.

Indeed, a blank kit would make much more sense than a sublegends one.

[Darknight00z]

No Japanese legends, we have enough of those already.

Anyway looks  stunning, can't wait!

[otanishock]

Were you actually serious?  I thought it was just a prank... which was the reason I thought the answer was what it was.

Yes, one liner doesn't mean prank question LOL
I think adding Japanese chars on this set would be nice, but it's just IMHO

No there is literally no reason of adding hiragana sublegends. The theme doesn't fit, the idea doesn't fit, the demand is not there.

[Zambumon]

I think we have discussed enough about sublegends, and I've already answered that question.

[kim-kim]

No Japanese legends, we have enough of those already.

Anyway looks  stunning, can't wait!

Didn't I just ... say that?  Let me see...

What did you mean adding the Hiragana characters?

While I understand the allure of secondary legends, I think such an addition has to make sense with the overall theme of a set.  In this case, a random addition of Hiragana alphabet is, well, random and doesn't make sense.  Why not Cyrillic, or symbol, or anything else?  It's a "Chocolate"-themed set, so there's no need for other legends, other than maybe on novelty caps.  I could actually see this set having an optional kit with no legends at all, to look like a literal box of chocolates.

Indeed, a blank kit would make much more sense than a sublegends one.

Okay, I think I got it. Thank you for the explanations, can't wait for this set already

[cakofony]

This looks phenomenal, I'm interested!
The yellow accent keys look great.

[centorsaurus]

When do you expect it to be produced?

[mousetrap00]

This looks phenomenal, I'm interested!
The yellow accent keys look great.

As per @OracleKev "It's not yellow. It's gold" lol  )

[Cloudnine25]

Digging both yellow and blue accents 
Would you consider changing yellow Enter to "Golden ticket"?
I mean, when it comes to gathering interests and lowering the price is probably a tradeoff
i,e. there is a probability that more novelties ,more interests IMHO

Anyhow, thank you for bringing back chocolatier!

[Zambumon]

I talked a little bit about it on the Keebtown podcast. Yes, I've consider making a "Golden Ticket" keycap but the problem is that it would look super weird because I'd have to remove the Enter arrow, so it would look out of place with the shift and backspace modifiers (at least to me). We've also to think about text placement: should it be left aligned or centerized? Left aligned would make sense with the rest of the modifiers, but it wouldn't be a good idea for a "Golden Ticket", because the text should be centerized. Then, we'd have just one key with the text centered and the rest left aligned and that doesn't look good to me.

[Zambumon]

Here is an update for the set:

• My goal would be to have a group buy for this set in mid-September/October, this gives me enough time to finish some of the extras (like the packaging), quotes, and color sampling.
• We should be able to finish color sampling for all of the colors before the preorder window. As the alphas are done and we'll use GMK standard colors for yellow and red, the only color left is blue. We should also get quotes for the kits soon.
• If everything goes well, my goal is to have Novelkeys, MykeyboardEU and Zfrontier will host the group buy for this set.

[chuckdee]

Nice update!  Looking forward to it!

[Fooblitzky]

No marshmellow flavored novelties? A couple creamy white accents might look good like WS1 or CP.

Or is adding novelty colors stupid expensive? Sorry, if this was brought up before somewhere else.

[futurecrime]

I hate brown. It is the worst colour. It is the colour of muck and feaces.  However, somehow - maybe it's the lovely renders, or the magic of GMK - this looks really, really, lovely. All the accents are great. The double base idea is inspired... I don't know if I'll buy it, I guess I might, but I absolutely commend you for making something so nice out of something so ****.

[dsaf]

I hate brown. It is the worst colour. It is the colour of muck and feaces...

I thought so too, also hate the Chocolate Factory theme. Yet I regret getting the SA version now (without novelties of course). On the upside hopefully we will see SA Round 2 with white chocolate alphas/mods!
Unless of course it will be yet another hidden group buy, in which case it would be a good time to quit this hobby altogether...

[Kerasan]

I hate brown. It is the worst colour. It is the colour of muck and feaces...

I thought so too, also hate the Chocolate Factory theme. Yet I regret getting the SA version now (without novelties of course). On the upside hopefully we will see SA Round 2 with white chocolate alphas/mods!
Unless of course it will be yet another hidden group buy, in which case it would be a good time to quit this hobby altogether...

what are you referring to?

KMK Labs.

[dsaf]

what are you referring to?

KMK Labs.

Off-topic https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/964vbw/selective_breeding

[mousetrap00]

Any updates?

[Zambumon]

Not yet. Waiting for GMK's quotes

[mimalik]

I hate brown. It is the worst colour. It is the colour of muck and feaces...

I thought so too, also hate the Chocolate Factory theme. Yet I regret getting the SA version now (without novelties of course). On the upside hopefully we will see SA Round 2 with white chocolate alphas/mods!
Unless of course it will be yet another hidden group buy, in which case it would be a good time to quit this hobby altogether...

SA Chocolatier looks really nice with JukeBox Alphas, I didnt get numpad and tkl to match the entire set, but jukebox alpha pics dont do colors justice.

[Absinthe]

I hate brown. It is the worst colour. It is the colour of muck and feaces...

I thought so too, also hate the Chocolate Factory theme. Yet I regret getting the SA version now (without novelties of course). On the upside hopefully we will see SA Round 2 with white chocolate alphas/mods!
Unless of course it will be yet another hidden group buy, in which case it would be a good time to quit this hobby altogether...

SA Chocolatier looks really nice with JukeBox Alphas, I didnt get numpad and tkl to match the entire set, but jukebox alpha pics dont do colors justice.

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That does look good! I have Jukebox coming to me and already have Carbon SA... now I'm even more regretting missing out on Chocolatier!  :(

[Absinthe]

.

[mrpetrov]

I am definitely, definitely down for this set. It is exactly what I am after! So excited to have this come to fruition.

[mousetrap00]

We need some real timeless colorways to go live instead of these redesigns/tweaked with different name gmk sets. Cmon chocolatier, im waiting!!! 

[otanishock]

Any solid date on the dropping timeline? Also do you think a R2 of SA Chocolatier is on the horizon? I really dig this theme and would love to get them in both colorways.

[Zambumon]

Any solid date on the dropping timeline? Also do you think a R2 of SA Chocolatier is on the horizon? I really dig this theme and would love to get them in both colorways.

Probably October.
No.

[otanishock]

Any solid date on the dropping timeline? Also do you think a R2 of SA Chocolatier is on the horizon? I really dig this theme and would love to get them in both colorways.

Probably October.
No.

Thanks for the update. I hope we can get on this the sooner the better. Carbon will be the big end game for this year so I'd love to see Chocolatier a bit sooner so hopefully I could somehow recover by then 😁.

[elfick]

I talked a little bit about it on the Keebtown podcast. Yes, I've consider making a "Golden Ticket" keycap but the problem is that it would look super weird because I'd have to remove the Enter arrow, so it would look out of place with the shift and backspace modifiers (at least to me). We've also to think about text placement: should it be left aligned or centerized? Left aligned would make sense with the rest of the modifiers, but it wouldn't be a good idea for a "Golden Ticket", because the text should be centerized. Then, we'd have just one key with the text centered and the rest left aligned and that doesn't look good to me.

Well, it is the "Golden Ticket", it should be unique right? I'd say make it fully justified with a font size designed to stretch across the whole key.

[OracleKev]

I talked a little bit about it on the Keebtown podcast. Yes, I've consider making a "Golden Ticket" keycap but the problem is that it would look super weird because I'd have to remove the Enter arrow, so it would look out of place with the shift and backspace modifiers (at least to me). We've also to think about text placement: should it be left aligned or centerized? Left aligned would make sense with the rest of the modifiers, but it wouldn't be a good idea for a "Golden Ticket", because the text should be centerized. Then, we'd have just one key with the text centered and the rest left aligned and that doesn't look good to me.

Well, it is the "Golden Ticket", it should be unique right? I'd say make it fully justified with a font size designed to stretch across the whole key.

+1 centered, across the whole key.  Lack of pictogram won't bother me.  Is it also consistent with "Caps Lock" on the other side.
Cherry Modifier legends defy logic in many different ways, so if it looks good or can easily become part of acquired taste, no prob~

[MikeTheTiger]

So is there a chance of including a 1.75u backspace?

[Zambumon]

Not really.

[mousetrap00]

not sleeping on the chocolatier. carbon is always a hypetrain imo.

[Zambumon]

Good day everyone,



After checking how much interest there is on this set and how current group buys are going, I've decided to update the kits in favour of a slightly more conservative approach. Here is a changelog of the kits:
- Chocolatier will now have one Core kit with no accent keys
- Accent keys have been moved to the Novelties kits
- 40s has been reduced a little bit to make it as affordable as possible while preserving most of its compatibility.

[avid]

Looking forward to this drop. I hope its mykeyboard as eu proxy. Any news on when a planned drop is due?

[Zambumon]

mykeyboard.eu will be the EU proxy for this set, that's for sure.

[dvorcol]

Good day everyone,
After checking how much interest there is on this set and how current group buys are going, I've decided to update the kits in favour of a slightly more conservative approach. Here is a changelog of the kits:
- Chocolatier will now have one Core kit with no accent keys

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Why are both R2 TAB keycaps in the CORE kit the same color?

[cijanzen]

Good day everyone,

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After checking how much interest there is on this set and how current group buys are going, I've decided to update the kits in favour of a slightly more conservative approach. Here is a changelog of the kits:
- Chocolatier will now have one Core kit with no accent keys
- Accent keys have been moved to the Novelties kits
- 40s has been reduced a little bit to make it as affordable as possible while preserving most of its compatibility.

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This seems like a solid choice given recent weaker numbers across group buys.

[otanishock]

Any chance those split spacebars will be offered in chocolate color as well?

[centorsaurus]

It's too bad to get rid of the ten key enter accent keycaps in the main 1800 array keyboards. The desire to buy has disappeared and the missing Red key keycap is disappointing.

[Zambumon]

Good day everyone,
After checking how much interest there is on this set and how current group buys are going, I've decided to update the kits in favour of a slightly more conservative approach. Here is a changelog of the kits:
- Chocolatier will now have one Core kit with no accent keys

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Why are both R2 TAB keycaps in the CORE kit the same color?

So you can use leftover mods with another keyboards.

After some consideration, I've opted for a more conservative approach for the core of this set, although with
some minor eccentricity.

With the goal of encouraging the reusability of these keycaps with other sets, I’ve also included a second
Tab key. With just that extra key, now people could potentially use Chocolatier’s modifiers at the same time
in, for example, an HHKB and a standard fullsize keyboard.

[avid]

I like the idea of 2nd tab. Would it be possible to add another backspace? That way you could also do most layouts with 2nd mods

[otanishock]

Any chance we could have those same 2.25u and 2.75u spacekeys in chocolate color from the 40's kit offered in the spacebar kit?

[Zambumon]

Any chance we could have those same 2.25u and 2.75u spacekeys in chocolate color from the 40's kit offered in the spacebar kit?

The spacebar kit is only for accent keycaps.

[mousetrap00]

Is that the final uodate? So no more red keys or white keys?

[Zambumon]

Is that the final uodate? So no more red keys or white keys?

Yes, this should be the final one.

[Zambumon]

Any chance those split spacebars will be offered in chocolate color as well?

40s has those, and it should be fairly affordable given the size of the kit.

[base]

- Accent keys have been moved to the Novelties kits

I like this decision a lot. Would love to also see a yellow ANSI enter with standard text in addition to the novelty one, but will now be buying multiple accent kits regardless.

[Jkush463]

mmm chocolate, love this one.

[Zambumon]

I like this decision a lot. Would love to also see a yellow ANSI enter with standard text in addition to the novelty one, but will now be buying multiple accent kits regardless.

It will be just one yellow enter key, so I'll go with just the golden ticket one.

[HWGuy]

I have been pining for SA Chocolatier ever since I realized I missed it - but I actually prefer GMK sets for typing. I had no idea this was going on, and I'm so glad I stumbled across it. I won't miss it this time! My credit card is ready, and I am so excited!!!!!

[Zambumon]

I've received quotes from GMK for the kits and have forwarded them to Novelkeys, MykeyboardEU, and Zfrontier (NA, EU, and CN proxies for the upcoming group buy)

Given the interest on this set, the current demand, and MOQs, I've opted not to offer the 40s kit and just have Core, Novelties, and spacebars with some minor updates on the spacebar kit.

[chuckdee]

Would it be possible to get the smaller spacebars in the primary colors in that kit in that case?  Just curious...

[Zambumon]

Would it be possible to get the smaller spacebars in the primary colors in that kit in that case?  Just curious...

That is the change I'm making.

[chuckdee]

Would it be possible to get the smaller spacebars in the primary colors in that kit in that case?  Just curious...

That is the change I'm making.

I like the change that you're making 

[Zambumon]

Final kits for GMK Chocolatier.

The Group Buy for this set should be in October with European (mykeyboard), North American (novelkeys) and Chinese (ZFrontier) vendors.

[euphxenos]

Zambumon,

Would it be possible for you to check with GMK and find out if that Core kit is really going to contain only what you've specified, or if they'll be adding any additional keys to it?  I use the Tada68 65% layout, which uses an R3 PgUp and an R4 PgDn.  GMK has been adding those to a lot of sets that don't specify it, because GMK's Uniqey C70 uses them.  It can get frustrating when I stay out of a group buy only to see the kits delivered to others include the keys I thought were missing.  It would be nice to have some confirmation from GMK about what the kit will end up including before they the group buy closes.

[mousetrap00]

HERE WE GOOOOOOOOO!!!!

 

[Zambumon]

Zambumon,

Would it be possible for you to check with GMK and find out if that Core kit is really going to contain only what you've specified, or if they'll be adding any additional keys to it?  I use the Tada68 65% layout, which uses an R3 PgUp and an R4 PgDn.  GMK has been adding those to a lot of sets that don't specify it, because GMK's Uniqey C70 uses them.  It can get frustrating when I stay out of a group buy only to see the kits delivered to others include the keys I thought were missing.  It would be nice to have some confirmation from GMK about what the kit will end up including before they the group buy closes.

The kits I've posted here are final, and it hasn't been the first time I've offered this option to cover the C70 and, in fact, I've renders of both boards and this set using R2 Page up, R3 Page Down, and R4 End.

With 65 and 75% keyboards there's always people that want one option or the other. As both the TADA68 and C70 are programmable, I don't think it is a big issue for anyone.

[Aerizu]

Final kits for GMK Chocolatier.

The Group Buy for this set should be in October with European (mykeyboard), North American (novelkeys) and Chinese (ZFrontier) vendors.

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So... no more 40s kit? :<

[Zambumon]

No, it had a MOQ of 150 units and I don't think it would be close enough to reach the MOQ.

[chuckdee]

I thought you were going to add a 2U in the base color, not replace the accent 2U.  Oh well.

[Zambumon]

I thought you were going to add a 2U in the base color, not replace the accent 2U.  Oh well.

The kit would be quite expensive if it had so many keys. in both the accent and alphas color.

[euphxenos]

Zambumon,

Would it be possible for you to check with GMK and find out if that Core kit is really going to contain only what you've specified, or if they'll be adding any additional keys to it?  I use the Tada68 65% layout, which uses an R3 PgUp and an R4 PgDn.  GMK has been adding those to a lot of sets that don't specify it, because GMK's Uniqey C70 uses them.  It can get frustrating when I stay out of a group buy only to see the kits delivered to others include the keys I thought were missing.  It would be nice to have some confirmation from GMK about what the kit will end up including before they the group buy closes.

The kits I've posted here are final, and it hasn't been the first time I've offered this option to cover the C70 and, in fact, I've renders of both boards and this set using R2 Page up, R3 Page Down, and R4 End.

With 65 and 75% keyboards there's always people that want one option or the other. As both the TADA68 and C70 are programmable, I don't think it is a big issue for anyone.

That's really not what I was trying to ask.  I've seen several sets over the past year where the kit the designer specified didn't include those keys, but GMK added them anyway when they manufactured the kits.  What I'm asking you is not for you to add them to the kit, but for you to ask GMK if they will be adding anything to your kit when they manufacture it.

[Zambumon]

That's really not what I was trying to ask.  I've seen several sets over the past year where the kit the designer specified didn't include those keys, but GMK added them anyway when they manufactured the kits.  What I'm asking you is not for you to add them to the kit, but for you to ask GMK if they will be adding anything to your kit when they manufacture it.

GMK has never added R3 and R4 Page Up and Page Down for free on their sets, they added 6.00U spacebars and R3 Code for sets that were in production or scheduled for production when the C70 was announced, as those kits couldn't be updated without a price change. Sets such as Nautilus, Yuri, or Laser benefited from this retroactive addition.

[Jedi]

Watching this thread for the GB.  Looking awesome, thanks for sticking to a core kit

[euphxenos]

That's really not what I was trying to ask.  I've seen several sets over the past year where the kit the designer specified didn't include those keys, but GMK added them anyway when they manufactured the kits.  What I'm asking you is not for you to add them to the kit, but for you to ask GMK if they will be adding anything to your kit when they manufacture it.

GMK has never added R3 and R4 Page Up and Page Down for free on their sets, they added 6.00U spacebars and R3 Code for sets that were in production or scheduled for production when the C70 was announced, as those kits couldn't be updated without a price change. Sets such as Nautilus, Yuri, or Laser benefited from this retroactive addition.

I believe you're mistaken.  If you look at the kit render for GMK Yuri on Massdrop, you'll see it doesn't include R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn.  The GMK Yuri set that I received includes both.  That was the first set I noticed this on.  I realized they were missing in the kit render after the drop closed, so it was a pleasant surprise when they showed up.  That happened again on GMK Solarized Dark (which I didn't buy, but saw photos of the received kits, and people confirmed the extra PgUp/PgDn were R3/R4).  I noticed this on one other, but I don't remember which set.  Nautilus and Laser of course included those two keys in their kits, so there was no change needed to include them.  The next data point I'll have in hand is Burgundy, which was unfortunately delayed a couple of months because Fedex lost the base kits, but I'll check it when it gets here.

[Oni74]

The blue accents definitely make this set much more interesting imo. I'd never been a fan of brown and green keycaps, but this one certainly raises my interest. Space cadet, Modern dolch, this, Carbon, Oblivion, oh my. 

[Zambumon]

GMK Chocolatier goes live on October 5th!
And there's a little surprise to be unveiled before the GB starts...

[stoic-lemon]

Do I smell a Zambumon x Cadbury colab?!

[8six753o9]

Omg omg TKC Candybar x Zambumon Chocolatier?


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[stoic-lemon]

That sounds more likely, but less edible.

[nachie]

Looks beautiful! Definitely looking forward to these.

[LeoShi]

Ready for this

[Zambumon]

Still not correct guesses so far  )

[Oblotzky]

If the base kit doesn't come with a Lindt bar or so I'm boycotting.

[Zambumon]

If the base kit doesn't come with a Lindt bar or so I'm boycotting.

Nice.

[kim-kim]

If the base kit doesn't come with a Lindt bar or so I'm boycotting.

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Nice.

Please, I want the 99% cacao to be included in my order  ;)

[olivia]

I demand Ferraro Rocher 

[T0mb3ry]

And i want Toblerone ...

[Wilba]

The pinnacle of chocolate development.

[AaronR]

Is it possible for dailyclack to proxy?

[centorsaurus]

MOQ price?

[stoic-lemon]

My last ever GMK set?

[mimalik]

My last ever GMK set?

That's what she said.

[Zambumon]

- Other than MykeyboardEU, Novelkeys, and ZFrontier, no more vendors will host the group buy.
- Pricing:

North America: Novelkeys.
  Core: $145
  Novelties: $35
  Spacebars: $30

Europe: Mykeyboard. (prices including VAT)
  Core: 141.99€
  Novelties: 39€
  Spacebars: 32€

China: ZFrontier.
  Core: ¥1048
  Novelties: ¥248
  Spacebars: ¥210

Asia ZFrontier - (English site).
  Core: $165
  Novelties: $38
  Spacebars: $32

[Zambumon]

The golden ticket. GMK Chocolatier by Zambumon on the KOYU with our Brass PVD Chocolatier caps. Chocolatier is launching tomorrow (October 5th!).

RAMA x CHOCOLATIER 

[mousetrap00]

Ooooh when's it going to be up!!!!!

[Zambumon]

Ooooh when's it going to be up!!!!!

As soon as all product pages are up, I'll post them here and lock the thread.

[Zambumon]

GMK Chocolatier and RAMA Chocolatier Brass keycaps are available for preorder!



Available for pre-order from October 5th to November 5th 2018

Where to buy:

- North America: Novelkeys
  - GMK Chocolatier:
    - Core: $145
    - Novelties: $35
    - Spacebars: $30
  - Rama Golden Ticket/Blue X/Blue O: $56

- Europe: MykeyboardEU (prices including VAT)
  - GMK Chocolatier
    - Core: 141.99€
    - Novelties: 39€
    - Spacebars: 32€
  - Rama Golden Ticket/Blue X/Blue O: TBA€

- China: ZFrontier
  -GMK Chocolatier:
    - Core: ¥1048
    - Novelties: ¥248
    - Spacebars: ¥210
  - Rama Golden Ticket/Blue X/Blue O: ¥392

- Asia (Korea, Japan, SEA...), Australia, and New Zealand: ZFrontier
  - GMK Chocolatier:
    - Core: $165
    - Novelties: $38
    - Spacebars: $32
  - Rama Golden Ticket/Blue X/Blue O: $56
 *Note: ZFrontier has free shipping via DHL Express for orders over $100.

Order Count

Please, head over to https://zambumon.com/chocolatier/ to check the current order numbers



Thanks for the support so far!