best mouse evar

[zemp]

What's the best mouse
Imo it so the sensei
The word razer is forbiddened

[metalliqaz]

Pretty sure we already had this thread, but Logitech mx518 is probably the grandaddy supreme.

[Photekq]

forbiddened

what's wrong with razer mice?

[Photoelectric]

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=21969.0
in this very subforum...

[Pacifist]

Sensei sensor is absolute ****. G400s or zowie EC1 EVO or earlier deathadder without synapse are the best imo

[zemp]

Sorry for reposting
And I just hate razer product from personal experience

[Emospence]

There's several mice on the market with similarly performing sensors. Out of those, it's personal preference when it comes to shape, feel, switches, LOD etc

[nubbinator]

Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1A.  I think I paid $20 for mine at PC Club back in something like 2000 or 2002.  It's still going strong and is one of the best mice I've ever used.  I'm using the Mionix Naos 5200 and Anker Vertical mouse right now, but it's still a kickass mouse from back in the day.  I still can't believe it's working perfectly all these years later.  My only qualm with it is the lack of side buttons, but one of these days I may undertake one of the hacks I've seen to ameliorate that issue.

[Oobly]

Mad Catz R.A.T. 3 hits the sweet spot for me. Comfortable, GREAT sensor, light and with profile storage in the mouse itself.

[EDIT] - And the palm rest is adjustable, locked by a screw.

[ynrozturk]

Logitech Mx518 or RAT7.

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

Trackballs.

Kensington Expert Mouse.

[tipo33]

Trackballs.

Kensington Expert Mouse.

Right design, wrong mouse.  Logitech M570.

[zemp]

i play mostly sc2 and flash games so idc about bad sensor.

[microsoft windows]

The Microsoft mouse is the best mouse ever.

[gameaholic]

best mouse for what use? G400 and 518 come to mind for FPS.  There are some mice made for MMOS like the G600 and Naga.  For general computing I'm probably gonna get a wireless mouse like the G602. 

[Novus]

Obligatory post:
http://i.imgur.com/TPnALYO.jpg
+
http://imgur.com/qo5TdKc,TPnALYO#0

*puts on armor.
You may proceed to throw stuff at me now.

[terran5992]

[nubbinator]

The WowPen joy with an Anker logo?

[Dubsgalore]

DA2013

i want to join #cstnation tho, ill report back once i have tried it

                     (CST LTrac^^)

[daerid]

Currently Death Adder 2013, but all time? Probably IE 3.0

[Novus]

Maybe Zowie will release a new mouse with nice internals and take the throne 

[PointyFox]

Logitech G5 and whatever is based on it.  Best ergonomics for me and lasts forever.  Though it does have a ****** scroll wheel.

[Elrick]

Maybe Zowie will release a new mouse with nice internals and take the throne 

Currently anything made by Zowie or ROCCAT - simply rules this planet  .  Enough said.

[Novus]

But but but that new Avago ADNS 3310 on the Rival seems pretty swell.

[jevvix]

Logitech G5 and whatever is based on it.  Best ergonomics for me and lasts forever.  Though it does have a ****** scroll wheel.

Agreed! I still have my original copper/black G5 with just the back button (no forward). Has served me well!

[Emospence]

Maybe Zowie will release a new mouse with nice internals and take the throne 

Their current range is pretty damn awesome IMO.

[Elrick]

Maybe Zowie will release a new mouse with nice internals and take the throne 

Their current range is pretty damn awesome IMO.

Please don't forget to let me know, I'm not that cluey when it comes to the very LATEST of anything concerning mice around here.  But I have to agree the Zowie range is quite nice compared to others out there.

[Calcifar]

best mouse for what use? G400 and 518 come to mind for FPS.  There are some mice made for MMOS like the G600 and Naga.  For general computing I'm probably gonna get a wireless mouse like the G602.

Meh.

btw. your sig just gave me fits.

[Novus]

Maybe Zowie will release a new mouse with nice internals and take the throne 

Their current range is pretty damn awesome IMO.

Please don't forget to let me know, I'm not that cluey when it comes to the very LATEST of anything concerning mice around here.  But I have to agree the Zowie range is quite nice compared to others out there.

http://www.zowiegear.com/index.php?i=news&p=52

New Zowie EC mouse
I'm  thinking of grabbing this.
Supposedly coming out in December.

[actorjump]

A4Tech

[thoere]

Trackballs are great
Particularly this one.

[Olitender]

Personally from experience, I think that the razer deathadder is not the best. From a year or two of use, it started to double click and that was very annoying.
I also found it really annoying that you have to have razer synapse updated in order for your mouse to properly work.

[Elrick]

I also found it really annoying that you have to have razer synapse updated in order for your mouse to properly work.

That is the NUMBER ONE failure with Razer, pushing everyone to use their dodgey-arse synapse software.  If you ever are forced to download and install a company's software because they insist.......time to step away and buy another mouse from a more reputable company, like Zowie, Roccat, Microsoft (go figure) and A4Tech.

The companies I just mentioned never tell you to use their software to attain complete control of your rodent (all the sensor adjustments).  But it's there if required.

[vun]

I also found it really annoying that you have to have razer synapse updated in order for your mouse to properly work.

That is the NUMBER ONE failure with Razer, pushing everyone to use their dodgey-arse synapse software.  If you ever are forced to download and install a company's software because they insist.......time to step away and buy another mouse from a more reputable company, like Zowie, Roccat, Microsoft (go figure) and A4Tech.

The companies I just mentioned never tell you to use their software to attain complete control of your rodent (all the sensor adjustments).  But it's there if required.

Just to get the facts straight here
A:
You don't need to keep Synapse up to date, after initial install you can set it to offline mode and it will stay that way. If you're talking about the 3.5G DA then you don't need Synapse at all, all the older drivers are still available.

B:
Most manufacturers require you to install software to actually configure your mouse. Yes, the DA is lacking in that there are no DPI buttons that let you cycle between preset dpi steps, but there are very few mice where you have any sort of control over the mouse settings beyond that without installing software.


And now for some personal opinion;
While software like LGS and Synapse are fairly heavy pieces of software compared to before, they are great for me as I have several input devices from both, and not needing a separate driver for each and every one is very nice.

Also, A4Tech is, in my eyes, a half-decent knockoff company at best, and Microsoft haven't made any good mice since the IME 3.0, which is no longer made, and the build quality on that felt cheaper and looser than any other mouse I own.

[Elrick]

Just to get the facts straight here
A:
You don't need to keep Synapse up to date, after initial install you can set it to offline mode and it will stay that way. If you're talking about the 3.5G DA then you don't need Synapse at all, all the older drivers are still available.

Razer doesn't use the full 6400dpi setting (within the DA2013 model) without their "dodgey-arse' Synapse Software, let's clear that up here first vun.  Roccat has full use of all it's dpi settings, so does Zowie (without the need to have any software/drivers).  I only mentioned Microsoft here because I will always refer to their Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 because it was (still is) their BEST ever manufactured rodent.  Plus I still use it on another PC setup and love it to death  .

B:
Most manufacturers require you to install software to actually configure your mouse. Yes, the DA is lacking in that there are no DPI buttons that let you cycle between preset dpi steps, but there are very few mice where you have any sort of control over the mouse settings beyond that without installing software.

Some manufacturers are pushing for users to become more moronic when it comes to using their mice (the Razer-style) and persuade them to download software so that you could access extra features from their input devices.  The mice I mentioned that I use and recommend for anyone/everyone to try are those still manufactured by Roccat, Zowie and Microsoft (IE 3.0) which is still sold on Ebay  .

And now for some personal opinion;
Also, A4Tech is, in my eyes, a half-decent knockoff company at best, and Microsoft haven't made any good mice since the IME 3.0, which is no longer made, and the build quality on that felt cheaper and looser than any other mouse I own.

Again your personal opinion is always welcomed here, but for others who also have those same mice, find the IME 3.0 the same quality as an A4Tech model.  I bought their "Bloody V3", their words not mine for $39.00USD.  It has that unmistakable shape of the traditional Razer DA without their poor quality parts.  In fact this mouse is better - compared to any other over priced Razer product.

[Leslieann]

While I'm not sold on the shape, I dislike the looks (looks cheap, but is in fact very well made) and the battery life could be better (adjusting polling and such does help), the best mouse I have used is a Logitech G700.

Works wired or wireless, no lag. Completely configurable. It uses a normal USB cable to charge and a standard AA battery, so if it is dead, you can just swap in whatever battery you have handy or use it corded while charging.

Put the guts of this into a Logitech Revolution MX and you would have near perfection.

[vun]

Just to get the facts straight here
A:
You don't need to keep Synapse up to date, after initial install you can set it to offline mode and it will stay that way. If you're talking about the 3.5G DA then you don't need Synapse at all, all the older drivers are still available.

Razer doesn't use the full 6400dpi setting (within the DA2013 model) without their "dodgey-arse' Synapse Software, let's clear that up here first vun.  Roccat has full use of all it's dpi settings, so does Zowie (without the need to have any software/drivers).  I only mentioned Microsoft here because I will always refer to their Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 because it was (still is) their BEST ever manufactured rodent.  Plus I still use it on another PC setup and love it to death  .

B:
Most manufacturers require you to install software to actually configure your mouse. Yes, the DA is lacking in that there are no DPI buttons that let you cycle between preset dpi steps, but there are very few mice where you have any sort of control over the mouse settings beyond that without installing software.

Some manufacturers are pushing for users to become more moronic when it comes to using their mice (the Razer-style) and persuade them to download software so that you could access extra features from their input devices.  The mice I mentioned that I use and recommend for anyone/everyone to try are those still manufactured by Roccat, Zowie and Microsoft (IE 3.0) which is still sold on Ebay  .

I did say that the DA had no DPI buttons, but that's not a new thing, it's been that way for ages, although it's never been much of a problem. And Synapse isn't dodgy in any way. Yes, it does try to force the whole cloud-thing on you, but other than that it's actually a good piece of software. I wouldn't really dream of using any peripheral without drivers if there are any, although here is an area where the IME 3.0 falls short again; the software for it is terrible and adds pretty much nothing.

There's one thing that it's important to keep in mind; Razer's target market. They play games, if there are more than 3 buttons on the mouse the majority will want to be able to configure those buttons(although office workers would probably be happy with the default mouse4 and mouse5). There are those who prefer plug-and-play mice, but that's a rapidly shrinking group. Most people who buy gaming mice will want to be able to configure it exactly to their liking, and the usual 3 steps you get to switch between out of the box with the mice that have dpi buttons are usually miles apart, so if you want something in between you're sorta boned.
I can understand those who don't play games but buy gaming mice for other features not being too keen on installing software for it, but the product suiting their needs is a bonus at best, and something most manufacturers don't really care about.

[ynrozturk]

Trackballs are great
Particularly this one.

Show Image

Which one is that? Looks great.

[davkol]

Just to get the facts straight here
A:
You don't need to keep Synapse up to date, after initial install you can set it to offline mode and it will stay that way. If you're talking about the 3.5G DA then you don't need Synapse at all, all the older drivers are still available.

Razer doesn't use the full 6400dpi setting (within the DA2013 model) without their "dodgey-arse' Synapse Software, let's clear that up here first vun.  Roccat has full use of all it's dpi settings, so does Zowie (without the need to have any software/drivers).  I only mentioned Microsoft here because I will always refer to their Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 because it was (still is) their BEST ever manufactured rodent.  Plus I still use it on another PC setup and love it to death  .

B:
Most manufacturers require you to install software to actually configure your mouse. Yes, the DA is lacking in that there are no DPI buttons that let you cycle between preset dpi steps, but there are very few mice where you have any sort of control over the mouse settings beyond that without installing software.

Some manufacturers are pushing for users to become more moronic when it comes to using their mice (the Razer-style) and persuade them to download software so that you could access extra features from their input devices.  The mice I mentioned that I use and recommend for anyone/everyone to try are those still manufactured by Roccat, Zowie and Microsoft (IE 3.0) which is still sold on Ebay  .

I did say that the DA had no DPI buttons, but that's not a new thing, it's been that way for ages, although it's never been much of a problem. And Synapse isn't dodgy in any way. Yes, it does try to force the whole cloud-thing on you, but other than that it's actually a good piece of software. I wouldn't really dream of using any peripheral without drivers if there are any, although here is an area where the IME 3.0 falls short again; the software for it is terrible and adds pretty much nothing.

There's one thing that it's important to keep in mind; Razer's target market. They play games, if there are more than 3 buttons on the mouse the majority will want to be able to configure those buttons(although office workers would probably be happy with the default mouse4 and mouse5). There are those who prefer plug-and-play mice, but that's a rapidly shrinking group. Most people who buy gaming mice will want to be able to configure it exactly to their liking, and the usual 3 steps you get to switch between out of the box with the mice that have dpi buttons are usually miles apart, so if you want something in between you're sorta boned.
I can understand those who don't play games but buy gaming mice for other features not being too keen on installing software for it, but the product suiting their needs is a bonus at best, and something most manufacturers don't really care about.

World would be a much better place if they fired (and burned, if possible) those 2000s web monkeys that design and develop their "drivers"... and hired some ordinary developers with some common sense and basic knowledge of user interface design.

In particular, LGS is horrible. I fail to see how they managed to make that counter-intuitive, laggy, ugly piece of ****. On the other hand, I have to give at least some credit to Roccat for using hardware storage on their hardware and sort of supporting unofficial linux drivers.

[vun]

Just to get the facts straight here
A:
You don't need to keep Synapse up to date, after initial install you can set it to offline mode and it will stay that way. If you're talking about the 3.5G DA then you don't need Synapse at all, all the older drivers are still available.

Razer doesn't use the full 6400dpi setting (within the DA2013 model) without their "dodgey-arse' Synapse Software, let's clear that up here first vun.  Roccat has full use of all it's dpi settings, so does Zowie (without the need to have any software/drivers).  I only mentioned Microsoft here because I will always refer to their Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 because it was (still is) their BEST ever manufactured rodent.  Plus I still use it on another PC setup and love it to death  .

B:
Most manufacturers require you to install software to actually configure your mouse. Yes, the DA is lacking in that there are no DPI buttons that let you cycle between preset dpi steps, but there are very few mice where you have any sort of control over the mouse settings beyond that without installing software.

Some manufacturers are pushing for users to become more moronic when it comes to using their mice (the Razer-style) and persuade them to download software so that you could access extra features from their input devices.  The mice I mentioned that I use and recommend for anyone/everyone to try are those still manufactured by Roccat, Zowie and Microsoft (IE 3.0) which is still sold on Ebay  .

I did say that the DA had no DPI buttons, but that's not a new thing, it's been that way for ages, although it's never been much of a problem. And Synapse isn't dodgy in any way. Yes, it does try to force the whole cloud-thing on you, but other than that it's actually a good piece of software. I wouldn't really dream of using any peripheral without drivers if there are any, although here is an area where the IME 3.0 falls short again; the software for it is terrible and adds pretty much nothing.

There's one thing that it's important to keep in mind; Razer's target market. They play games, if there are more than 3 buttons on the mouse the majority will want to be able to configure those buttons(although office workers would probably be happy with the default mouse4 and mouse5). There are those who prefer plug-and-play mice, but that's a rapidly shrinking group. Most people who buy gaming mice will want to be able to configure it exactly to their liking, and the usual 3 steps you get to switch between out of the box with the mice that have dpi buttons are usually miles apart, so if you want something in between you're sorta boned.
I can understand those who don't play games but buy gaming mice for other features not being too keen on installing software for it, but the product suiting their needs is a bonus at best, and something most manufacturers don't really care about.

World would be a much better place if they fired (and burned, if possible) those 2000s web monkeys that design and develop their "drivers"... and hired some ordinary developers with some common sense and basic knowledge of user interface design.

In particular, LGS is horrible. I fail to see how they managed to make that counter-intuitive, laggy, ugly piece of ****. On the other hand, I have to give at least some credit to Roccat for using hardware storage on their hardware and sort of supporting unofficial linux drivers.

Yeah, while LGS is functional, the visual part of it is needlessly overdesigned and annoying. I do wish they'd stop trying to "design" their driver software, it just ends up making the whole thing needlessly bloated and clunky.

Still, LGS' functionality is better than any other driver software I've had to use so far, despite the poor interface design.

[MKULTRA]

I love my G400

[tbc]

for gaming:  g700s.

for work: mx revolution.

for work that you can still buy:  performance mouse mx

[theMANtonio]

I'm really enjoying my Steel Series Sensei Raw (Rubberized). Took some time to get it configured to how I like it on Mac OS X, but now I love it.

[Elrick]

I'm really enjoying my Steel Series Sensei Raw (Rubberized). Took some time to get it configured to how I like it on Mac OS X, but now I love it.

Have you had the chance of using the current RIVAL mouse just yet?  It seems to be the BEST SteelSeries model yet released.  I love it's shape and the finish is quite good.  The buttons are almost quiet when used.

First SteelSeries bought and am appreciating their effort with this mouse  .

[theMANtonio]

I'm really enjoying my Steel Series Sensei Raw (Rubberized). Took some time to get it configured to how I like it on Mac OS X, but now I love it.

Have you had the chance of using the current RIVAL mouse just yet?  It seems to be the BEST SteelSeries model yet released.  I love it's shape and the finish is quite good.  The buttons are almost quiet when used.

First SteelSeries bought and am appreciating their effort with this mouse  .

I haven't, but I'll have to look into it. I actually just picked up a Logitech M570 (Wireless Trackball) to test. I might have to convert to trackballs 

[deadpool]

While I'm not sold on the shape, I dislike the looks (looks cheap, but is in fact very well made) and the battery life could be better (adjusting polling and such does help), the best mouse I have used is a Logitech G700.

Works wired or wireless, no lag. Completely configurable. It uses a normal USB cable to charge and a standard AA battery, so if it is dead, you can just swap in whatever battery you have handy or use it corded while charging.

Put the guts of this into a Logitech Revolution MX and you would have near perfection.

Amen.

[All The Fire]

Swapped from a G9x to a Roccat Savu for about 3 weeks now, I'm now through the initial discomforts of the change of shape and weight and I'm am super happy with the swap.

The response from the 3090 sensor feels perfect, my snap aiming is a lot more consistently on target. Unfortunately I had to stop using the Artisan Shiden XSOFT pad, caused some skips... I love that pad. All the buttons have great responsive clicks, even the scroll button, the extra buttons on the G9x were mushy and where getting harder and harder to register. The scroll wheel is the best I've ever used, no unwarranted scrolls, the notches have a great resistance that is strong but not too hard to overcome. The construction feels great and the design is nice and simple, all black, one LED, nothing too flashy. On board memory too, so no need to have the driver running all the time.

Been a COD FFA player since MW2, always felt I should have been able to hold a 2 kdr in Blops2, but I was stuck around 1.85. Now in Ghosts my KDR is up at 2.2 and looking really solid.

[Elrick]

The scroll wheel is the best I've ever used, no unwarranted scrolls, the notches have a great resistance that is strong but not too hard to overcome. The construction feels great and the design is nice and simple, all black, one LED, nothing too flashy. On board memory too, so no need to have the driver running all the time.

Roccat make very high quality input devices now.  The surface finish, their scroll wheel and sturdy plastic construction is a level beyond any other current mouse manufacturer  .  I have equipped nearly half of all my computers with Roccat models.

[aj-kun]

Currently Death Adder 2013, but all time? Probably IE 3.0

My Current mouse and previous mouse.

I want an updated V3.0 without the bad scroll wheel

[vun]

Currently Death Adder 2013, but all time? Probably IE 3.0

My Current mouse and previous mouse.

I want an updated V3.0 without the bad scroll wheel

There is one on the way, hinted to in this thread