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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Leftover Sale - Mar]
« Reply #1150 on: Sun, 06 May 2018, 04:53:54 »
whats the difference between the normal pcb and this one  https://caps-unlocked.com/alps64-special-edition-pcb/

The pcbs are just a bit old revision with different logo.
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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Leftover Sale - Mar]
« Reply #1151 on: Sun, 06 May 2018, 06:07:29 »
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I didn't know there are variation of stab wire like that, what model number of keyboard did you get the space bar and stabilizer from? AEK US layout?
And if you still have the keyboard could you post pic of its stab cutouts around space bar? It would be helpful to know the cutouts dimension.

This is my space bars from AEKs(M3501 and M0115J). Stab wires and inserts are apparently different.
Show Image


The other day I found AEK64 case has extra cutouts on upper side and wasn't sure its reason. But the extra cutouts work with your spacebars probably?
https://i.imgur.com/xs91dSt.jpg

Here's the imgur album of the keyboard from the user I bought the caps: https://imgur.com/a/gYJqo

You can see the stabilizer wire is reversed on it. It's an AEK 1 M0115 (Dutch version). The AEK case indeed seems to have the cutouts for reverse mounting. It's good to know but since I already assembled my keyboard with your plate I'm fine with using the spacebar reversed.
« Last Edit: Sun, 06 May 2018, 06:31:09 by tobo »

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Leftover Sale - Mar]
« Reply #1152 on: Sun, 06 May 2018, 06:32:52 »
whats the difference between the normal pcb and this one  https://caps-unlocked.com/alps64-special-edition-pcb/

The pcbs are just a bit old revision with different logo.
Ok thank you

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Leftover Sale - Mar]
« Reply #1153 on: Sun, 06 May 2018, 07:53:15 »
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I didn't know there are variation of stab wire like that, what model number of keyboard did you get the space bar and stabilizer from? AEK US layout?
And if you still have the keyboard could you post pic of its stab cutouts around space bar? It would be helpful to know the cutouts dimension.

This is my space bars from AEKs(M3501 and M0115J). Stab wires and inserts are apparently different.
Show Image


The other day I found AEK64 case has extra cutouts on upper side and wasn't sure its reason. But the extra cutouts work with your spacebars probably?
https://i.imgur.com/xs91dSt.jpg

Here's the imgur album of the keyboard from the user I bought the caps: https://imgur.com/a/gYJqo

You can see the stabilizer wire is reversed on it. It's an AEK 1 M0115 (Dutch version). The AEK case indeed seems to have the cutouts for reverse mounting. It's good to know but since I already assembled my keyboard with your plate I'm fine with using the spacebar reversed.

Thanks for the photos. Ah, I see. the spacebar stabilizer on Dutch model is different from US AEKs and I haven't seen this.
And I didn't know Dutch keyboard layout has US type enter key instead of ISO big one, TIL.

Without knowing Dutch AEK I added the extra cutouts on new revision of plate to support 'flipped spacebar' for fun after seeing the AEK64 design. In a result I think it happens to support Dutch spacebar hopefully. This doesn't help your situation because you already assembled, bu t if you are willing to check the new plate design with the Dutch spacebar let me know, I will send you one.
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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Leftover Sale - Mar]
« Reply #1154 on: Sun, 06 May 2018, 11:27:31 »
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I didn't know there are variation of stab wire like that, what model number of keyboard did you get the space bar and stabilizer from? AEK US layout?
And if you still have the keyboard could you post pic of its stab cutouts around space bar? It would be helpful to know the cutouts dimension.

This is my space bars from AEKs(M3501 and M0115J). Stab wires and inserts are apparently different.
Show Image


The other day I found AEK64 case has extra cutouts on upper side and wasn't sure its reason. But the extra cutouts work with your spacebars probably?
https://i.imgur.com/xs91dSt.jpg

Here's the imgur album of the keyboard from the user I bought the caps: https://imgur.com/a/gYJqo

You can see the stabilizer wire is reversed on it. It's an AEK 1 M0115 (Dutch version). The AEK case indeed seems to have the cutouts for reverse mounting. It's good to know but since I already assembled my keyboard with your plate I'm fine with using the spacebar reversed.

Thanks for the photos. Ah, I see. the spacebar stabilizer on Dutch model is different from US AEKs and I haven't seen this.
And I didn't know Dutch keyboard layout has US type enter key instead of ISO big one, TIL.

Without knowing Dutch AEK I added the extra cutouts on new revision of plate to support 'flipped spacebar' for fun after seeing the AEK64 design. In a result I think it happens to support Dutch spacebar hopefully. This doesn't help your situation because you already assembled, bu t if you are willing to check the new plate design with the Dutch spacebar let me know, I will send you one.
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I would be interested in trying out the flipped spacebar XD
Can you send me the design so I can get it cut?
« Last Edit: Sun, 06 May 2018, 13:41:26 by midnight2903 »

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Leftover Sale - Mar]
« Reply #1155 on: Sun, 06 May 2018, 13:40:41 »
...

Thanks for the photos. Ah, I see. the spacebar stabilizer on Dutch model is different from US AEKs and I haven't seen this.
And I didn't know Dutch keyboard layout has US type enter key instead of ISO big one, TIL.

Without knowing Dutch AEK I added the extra cutouts on new revision of plate to support 'flipped spacebar' for fun after seeing the AEK64 design. In a result I think it happens to support Dutch spacebar hopefully. This doesn't help your situation because you already assembled, bu t if you are willing to check the new plate design with the Dutch spacebar let me know, I will send you one.
Show Image


It's quite strange since ISO layout is these days the default for most keyboards here, though ANSI alternatives are often available as well.
Sure, I can check the plate design with this spacebar if you want. My invoice number is 1563. If you can't get the address from that I can PM you as well.

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Leftover Sale - Mar]
« Reply #1156 on: Sun, 06 May 2018, 19:41:06 »
...

I didn't know there are variation of stab wire like that, what model number of keyboard did you get the space bar and stabilizer from? AEK US layout?
And if you still have the keyboard could you post pic of its stab cutouts around space bar? It would be helpful to know the cutouts dimension.

This is my space bars from AEKs(M3501 and M0115J). Stab wires and inserts are apparently different.
Show Image


The other day I found AEK64 case has extra cutouts on upper side and wasn't sure its reason. But the extra cutouts work with your spacebars probably?
https://i.imgur.com/xs91dSt.jpg

Here's the imgur album of the keyboard from the user I bought the caps: https://imgur.com/a/gYJqo

You can see the stabilizer wire is reversed on it. It's an AEK 1 M0115 (Dutch version). The AEK case indeed seems to have the cutouts for reverse mounting. It's good to know but since I already assembled my keyboard with your plate I'm fine with using the spacebar reversed.

Thanks for the photos. Ah, I see. the spacebar stabilizer on Dutch model is different from US AEKs and I haven't seen this.
And I didn't know Dutch keyboard layout has US type enter key instead of ISO big one, TIL.

Without knowing Dutch AEK I added the extra cutouts on new revision of plate to support 'flipped spacebar' for fun after seeing the AEK64 design. In a result I think it happens to support Dutch spacebar hopefully. This doesn't help your situation because you already assembled, bu t if you are willing to check the new plate design with the Dutch spacebar let me know, I will send you one.
Show Image


I would be interested in trying out the flipped spacebar XD
Can you send me the design so I can get it cut?

It requires Dremel and finely file job perhaps :D

Updated repo for the plate. Its KiCAD design files and DXF are located here, you can check the dimensions with KiCAD or other CAD softwares.
https://github.com/tmk/alps64_plate/tree/plate_aek_flip_spacebar
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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Leftover Sale]
« Reply #1157 on: Mon, 07 May 2018, 12:37:37 »
...

Thanks for the photos. Ah, I see. the spacebar stabilizer on Dutch model is different from US AEKs and I haven't seen this.
And I didn't know Dutch keyboard layout has US type enter key instead of ISO big one, TIL.

Without knowing Dutch AEK I added the extra cutouts on new revision of plate to support 'flipped spacebar' for fun after seeing the AEK64 design. In a result I think it happens to support Dutch spacebar hopefully. This doesn't help your situation because you already assembled, bu t if you are willing to check the new plate design with the Dutch spacebar let me know, I will send you one.
Show Image


It's quite strange since ISO layout is these days the default for most keyboards here, though ANSI alternatives are often available as well.
Sure, I can check the plate design with this spacebar if you want. My invoice number is 1563. If you can't get the address from that I can PM you as well.

Great. Posted the new plate today via normal airmail which has no tracking number. It will take several weeks probably.

Thanks.
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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Leftover Sale]
« Reply #1158 on: Mon, 07 May 2018, 15:28:12 »
No problem. Will let you know as soon as it arrives.

Edit: @hasu I received the plate today. I was able to mount the spacebar the same way as it was on the original AEK I keyboard. I made a GIF and took some pictures: https://imgur.com/a/8FZf8gD

The spacebar is very responsive and as you can see I  was able to press it down from both corners as well. If you have any questions please let me know.
« Last Edit: Sat, 12 May 2018, 13:30:32 by tobo »

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Leftover Sale]
« Reply #1159 on: Sun, 13 May 2018, 19:22:08 »
Edit: @hasu I received the plate today. I was able to mount the spacebar the same way as it was on the original AEK I keyboard. I made a GIF and took some pictures: https://imgur.com/a/8FZf8gD

The spacebar is very responsive and as you can see I  was able to press it down from both corners as well. If you have any questions please let me know.

Great. Thanks for the confirmation!
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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Leftover Sale]
« Reply #1160 on: Sun, 13 May 2018, 21:17:27 »
@hasu will you ever be working on a 65% or TKL version of the ALPS64?

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Leftover Sale]
« Reply #1161 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 16:52:36 »
@hasu will you ever be working on a 65% or TKL version of the ALPS64?

No plan. For me problems are: 1) Those form factors have no standard dimension case for stand offs or screw holes as far as I know. 2) My reflow oven is not big to accommodate that size pcbs. :(
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