Post by: PainMaster on Sun, 25 November 2018, 21:37:47
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* 2018/11/25
Thank you for pointing out the details I didn't mention.
That's quite interesting.
The nameplates are replaceable
We were able to add color to the sample production process
and used several different colors to identify the range of colors we could express.
Actually, the nameplate color is not like that.
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Communication is on this side.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98324.msg2683073
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* 2018/11/24
Sample production Open.
Information web page Open. (oddforge.com)
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* 2017/12/10
Sample production completed.
Build with PainMaster
Testing in private
Post by: AuthenticDanger on Sun, 25 November 2018, 21:47:50
Post by: switchnollie on Sun, 25 November 2018, 21:51:35
Post by: superdoedoe on Sun, 25 November 2018, 22:12:28
In for 6 :thumb:
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/173/576/Wat8.jpg?1315930535)
Post by: OneNightFriend on Sun, 25 November 2018, 22:15:31
Post by: phatty on Sun, 25 November 2018, 22:20:53
Post by: aeryxz on Sun, 25 November 2018, 22:39:09
Any SKU with B on the right side?
Post by: P1kas on Sun, 25 November 2018, 22:45:38
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 26 November 2018, 01:20:57
Will latency issues be resolved? Supposedly one half of the VE.A had some lag?
it still uses sata so no
Post by: urbantheii on Mon, 26 November 2018, 07:52:12
Post by: Sup on Mon, 26 November 2018, 08:50:39
Post by: crykn on Mon, 26 November 2018, 11:42:20
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 26 November 2018, 13:26:48
How bad was the latency issue?
Very.
Post by: P1kas on Mon, 26 November 2018, 14:24:21
Is that going to be the only color available for the VE.A logo badge?
Post by: Skull_Angel on Mon, 26 November 2018, 16:57:00
Post by: AuthenticDanger on Mon, 26 November 2018, 17:21:10
Jump to 2:38 for the complaint
EDIT:
Found this thread, too
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5gbr5i/help_vea_ps2avrgb_firmware_input_lagdelay/
Post by: clik_clak on Mon, 26 November 2018, 17:36:12
Here's a complaint about the lag from over a year ago:
Jump to 2:38 for the complaint
EDIT:
Found this thread, too
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5gbr5i/help_vea_ps2avrgb_firmware_input_lagdelay/
As I said...a single youtube video.
And that reddit thread mentions absolutely nothing about the latency being caused by the SATA cable. As a matter of fact, they clearly point to it being a firmware/processing issue, specifically as they ran into the same issue with the Leeku pcb's
Post by: HouseofSuffering on Mon, 26 November 2018, 17:38:54
Even when I heard rumblings and a few people complaining about it and I tried to see if I could duplicate it on mine......never could.
Guy I sold it to never complained about latency issues to me afterwards either.
Post by: AuthenticDanger on Mon, 26 November 2018, 17:48:13
Here's a complaint about the lag from over a year ago:
Jump to 2:38 for the complaint
EDIT:
Found this thread, too
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5gbr5i/help_vea_ps2avrgb_firmware_input_lagdelay/
As I said...a single youtube video.
And that reddit thread mentions absolutely nothing about the latency being caused by the SATA cable. As a matter of fact, they clearly point to it being a firmware/processing issue, specifically as they ran into the same issue with the Leeku pcb's
I didn't say it was the cable. I'm just providing information that was asked for in the locked IC. I certainly don't care WHY there's lag, but if it can be fixed, it should be.
Since there is limited availability for the VE.A & most people don't type at 100+ WMP, I'm not surprised that only 1 video calls out the lag.
Are you claiming that there isn't any lag?
Post by: clik_clak on Mon, 26 November 2018, 17:58:50
Here's a complaint about the lag from over a year ago:
Jump to 2:38 for the complaint
EDIT:
Found this thread, too
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5gbr5i/help_vea_ps2avrgb_firmware_input_lagdelay/
As I said...a single youtube video.
And that reddit thread mentions absolutely nothing about the latency being caused by the SATA cable. As a matter of fact, they clearly point to it being a firmware/processing issue, specifically as they ran into the same issue with the Leeku pcb's
I didn't say it was the cable. I'm just providing information that was asked for in the locked IC. I certainly don't care WHY there's lag, but if it can be fixed, it should be.
Since there is limited availability for the VE.A & most people don't type at 100+ WMP, I'm not surprised that only 1 video calls out the lag.
Are you claiming that there isn't any lag?
I'm claiming that people are blowing this way out of proportion. The vast majority of people are complaining that its the SATA cable that is causing the latency, yet I haven't seen a single shred of info that indicates its the SATA that's causing it.
Yes, if there's latency it should be fixed. But then again, people just assuming there will be latency are making rather large assumptions.
Post by: HouseofSuffering on Mon, 26 November 2018, 18:56:41
Here's a complaint about the lag from over a year ago:
Jump to 2:38 for the complaint
EDIT:
Found this thread, too
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5gbr5i/help_vea_ps2avrgb_firmware_input_lagdelay/
As I said...a single youtube video.
And that reddit thread mentions absolutely nothing about the latency being caused by the SATA cable. As a matter of fact, they clearly point to it being a firmware/processing issue, specifically as they ran into the same issue with the Leeku pcb's
I didn't say it was the cable. I'm just providing information that was asked for in the locked IC. I certainly don't care WHY there's lag, but if it can be fixed, it should be.
Since there is limited availability for the VE.A & most people don't type at 100+ WMP, I'm not surprised that only 1 video calls out the lag.
Are you claiming that there isn't any lag?
I'm claiming that people are blowing this way out of proportion. The vast majority of people are complaining that its the SATA cable that is causing the latency, yet I haven't seen a single shred of info that indicates its the SATA that's causing it.
Yes, if there's latency it should be fixed. But then again, people just assuming there will be latency are making rather large assumptions.
Agreed.
There were over 100 VE.As sold in MASSDROP group buy (I think it was 114), Then Oddforge sold off all the B Stocks......no to mention the handful of pre-production ones out there.
A handful of complaints when there are a 100+ boards out there......is not really the epidemic people are making it out to be.
There did seem to be an issue with some boards and that issue should be resolved.
But, if the issue was indeed as prevalent as people are leading us to believe, the actual cause and solution would of been found by now. But neither of those things ever happened....because all we have is a couple examples and a bunch of hearsay.....and yes people blaming the SATA cable (not authenticdanger, but others).
......I actually prefer the SATA cable connection..... I think it makes the VE.A unique and at the time of the original release is was just right for the VE.A. Zefyr explained why it had to be SATA way back in the old IC for the Original.
But at the same time I can also see how in 2018/2019 people are seeing it as an eyesore and outdated.
Post by: MajorKoos on Mon, 26 November 2018, 20:49:48
I've never experienced the lag issue, but I have had 2 SATA cables fail on me.
The standard SATA cable is too stiff to allow easy repositioning of the 2 halves.
I think it's the solid core wire which eventually fails.
I did find some more flexible silverstone cables (CP11), but they're even more prone to failure.
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 26 November 2018, 23:41:06
Post by: DillonHightower on Sat, 16 March 2019, 06:44:59
Post by: Sup on Sat, 16 March 2019, 07:35:00
I have 3 R1 units (yes, 3).'
I've never experienced the lag issue, but I have had 2 SATA cables fail on me.
The standard SATA cable is too stiff to allow easy repositioning of the 2 halves.
I think it's the solid core wire which eventually fails.
I did find some more flexible silverstone cables (CP11), but they're even more prone to failure.
I think the lagg only appears if you go above a certain WPM.
Post by: regionfree on Sat, 16 March 2019, 08:52:24
I have 3 R1 units (yes, 3).'
I've never experienced the lag issue, but I have had 2 SATA cables fail on me.
The standard SATA cable is too stiff to allow easy repositioning of the 2 halves.
I think it's the solid core wire which eventually fails.
I did find some more flexible silverstone cables (CP11), but they're even more prone to failure.
I think the lagg only appears if you go above a certain WPM.
just finished building a v1 today and I usually type around 95~105 wpm. haven't been able to see the dropped letters so far. it could be that i'm actually typing below those numbers when doing normal work (those numbers are from 10ff). but anyway, i love this board and so glad that I could put my trackpad in between, with my hands able to position in a more comfortable way.
definitely in for v2. sata or not, this **** is good.
Post by: MajorKoos on Sat, 16 March 2019, 10:32:19
I have 3 R1 units (yes, 3).'
I've never experienced the lag issue, but I have had 2 SATA cables fail on me.
The standard SATA cable is too stiff to allow easy repositioning of the 2 halves.
I think it's the solid core wire which eventually fails.
I did find some more flexible silverstone cables (CP11), but they're even more prone to failure.
I think the lagg only appears if you go above a certain WPM.
just finished building a v1 today and I usually type around 95~105 wpm. haven't been able to see the dropped letters so far. it could be that i'm actually typing below those numbers when doing normal work (those numbers are from 10ff). but anyway, i love this board and so glad that I could put my trackpad in between, with my hands able to position in a more comfortable way.
definitely in for v2. sata or not, this **** is good.
I think we isolated this to the debounce delay being set too high.
It's configurable on the last tab of bootmapper client, and setting it to 1 or 2 seems to work.
My gripe with SATA is you either get a hard cable which gets in the way on any desk not cleared of everything to take glamor shots or you get a soft one from a SFF PC which breaks because they're not made for the abuse. Like driving in a screw with a hammer, it works, but it's not ideal.
Post by: trizkut on Sat, 16 March 2019, 11:44:46
I have 3 R1 units (yes, 3).'
I've never experienced the lag issue, but I have had 2 SATA cables fail on me.
The standard SATA cable is too stiff to allow easy repositioning of the 2 halves.
I think it's the solid core wire which eventually fails.
I did find some more flexible silverstone cables (CP11), but they're even more prone to failure.
I think the lagg only appears if you go above a certain WPM.
avg 130wpm, bursts up to 165. no lag here.
Post by: Sintpinty on Sat, 16 March 2019, 17:36:27
The amount of lights, and the keyboard case looks really nice. Combine that with nice keycaps, and you've got yourself a good looking keyboard.
Post by: litster on Wed, 10 April 2019, 13:32:54