[IC] WYSE ISO and 9 key cluster UPDATED

[whiskytango]

UPDATE: I reset the form, so please fill out the new version of the form if you are interested.

LINK TO NEW FORM

LINK TO NEW FORM RESULTS

I have taken some pictures with a key checker of four different types of WYSE key sets that I own. You can see what you need from the pics to make each type of set complete. I have also made a new form which includes all of the different options available. I didn't have an ISO checker, sorry.

Here is what each set needs beyond the i3 / boost moogle currently in the Group Buy section:

WYSE PCE: Nothing. The Moogle is all you need.

WY50: `~, Tab, all of 9 key cluster, and part of the numpad (Num Lock, /, *, -, +, Enter)

WY60: `~, all of 9 key cluster, and part of the numpad (Num Lock, /, *, -, +, Enter)

WY85: All of 9 Key Cluster, Esc, and part of the numpad (Num Lock, /, *, -, +, Enter)

So there would be four options:

1. Compatibility Pack: I am going to suggest a compatibility pack which includes the following:

• `~
• Esc

Also, I would suggest the option to include dark grey versions of the ~` key and \| key so that modifiers match.

2. 9 Key Cluster Pack: 9 Key Cluster will still contain the 9 keys above the arrows:

• Print Screen
• Scroll Lock
• Pause
• Insert
• Home
• Page Up
• Page Down
• End
• Delete

3. ISO Pack: Would contain the usual ISO stuff? IDK, you Euro guys will have to fill me in there as to what it should include. The standard SP ISO set I guess, like the one in the Klaxon GB


4. Num Pad Pack: Contains Outside Edge of Num Pad in dark grey:

• Num Lock
• /
• *
• -
• +
• Enter

Reference Pics: WYSE PCE, WY50, WY60 & WY85
















Since there is a WYSE moogle buy going on finally, I would like to know how much interest there is in doing a companion buy for the 9 key cluster or ISO compatibility sets. Judging from responses to the moogle buy thread, it looks like more people would buy moogles if they could get these options also...

If you don't know what I am talking about with the 9 key cluster:

[danielucf]

I think 9 key cluster would allow you to buy the more obscure WYSE boards and use their keycaps on TKLs, the missing number pad keys wouldn't hurt either, but who uses those anyways

PS: Interested

[esoomenona]

I posted interest for two sets, based on price. If they end up too pricey, then I would be more interested in one of each.

[whiskytango]

I agree with both of you. The price will determine whether this is even feasible, but if enough people were interested...

[LechnerDE]

filled the form

[whiskytango]

Added link to form results in OP

As of now:

9 key: 12

ISO: 6

[Tarzan]

Yes, please!

Form filled out.

[codyeatworld]

Yeah I'm in for ISO and 9-key!

[calavera]

Interested in one 9key set.

[danielucf]

Really should just do a group buy for WYSE reproduction at this point. Say only 100 reproduction sets sold, but 100 moogles and 50 9 keys. The moogles would sell at the 200 price point and the 9 keys at the 150 price point.

[whiskytango]

Really should just do a group buy for WYSE reproduction at this point. Say only 100 reproduction sets sold, but 100 moogles and 50 9 keys. The moogles would sell at the 200 price point and the 9 keys at the 150 price point.

I agree with this, and I believe this was also pointed out in the IC thread rootwyrm was running a while back for a full WYSE repro set. One problem I see with this is that there have been a lot of expensive group buys run lately and people's wallets may be hurting too much. I still think you would have a good showing with a full set GB though. The other problem is that the larger the GB, the longer it will take and more complicated it will be. rootwyrm was talking about doing windowed keycaps and offering different layouts for different keyboards, offering media keys for QFRs and such, whereas the moogle kit focuses on backwards compatibility with old key caps and new key boards. I think the main point of doing a WYSE only moogle is to do it quickly and efficiently. But if a moogle is there to make old WYSE sets compatible, then adding these two options would greatly increase the compatibility of a lot of those WYSE terminal boards. And I agree with your earlier point about the numpad, I should have added that to the form probably. I might redo it tonight when I get home.

My main purpose with running this IC was to gather some actual numbers of people who wanted more than just a moogle. It's one thing for someone to post "I'd be in if there was an ISO option", but I wanted to see some actual numbers. I thought maybe then we could present this to i3 to see if he would consider adding these options to the GB. I suppose we could run a contemporaneous GB if he doesn't want to add them.

[i3oilermaker]

This is Boost's GB...I don't even want these keys!

I am just gathering orders and fulfilling. 

I am happy to change gears and start over again if Boost decides that's what we want to do.

[boost]

This is Boost's GB...I don't even want these keys!

I am just gathering orders and fulfilling. 

I am happy to change gears and start over again if Boost decides that's what we want to do.

Doesn't matter to me. Alls I know is that WE ALL NEED WYSE

[Findecanor]

The poll lacks the option "0" for either set. I think a lot of people have chosen "Other" when they meant 0.

Except for a couple of other keys, I would only be interested in a ISO set myself. I know that Wyse's ISO Return keys were light grey, but I would prefer mine to be dark.

If I made a group order, I would make the 9-key set not just contain the 9 keys, but also the other modifiers necessary to convert from a Wyse ASCII, ANSI or 85 to TLK/ANSI with the exception of the keys present in a Moogle or Tsangan kit, plus maybe extra shift keys.
EDIT: Sorry, I did not see before that i3oilermaker's "WYSE Moogle Key GB" does contain the modifier keys. A traditional Moogle kit would not, though, mostly just adjust winkeyless Cherry G80 kb to winkeyful Filco/whatever. Loads of extra keys in i3oilermaker's kit if you have a Wyse PCE (like I do).
EDIT 2: The ~ (tilde) key is still missing. Necessary for adapting a Wyse ASCII to TKL.

[ApocalypseMaow]

I would much rather buy the whole kit. I think we would get more kits sold that way as well.

[sth]

in for the 9pack. already got WYSE son

[ApocalypseMaow]

in for the 9pack. already got WYSE son

Not everyone is as cool as you sth. 

[whiskytango]

OP Updated

[evolyn]

What do ineed for kmac 1 with the moogle Kit to get a Full wyse Kit?! PLZ help

[Lighthouse1]

I would definitely be in the WYSE pack buy if it had the ISO and extra keys..I only have 1 ANSI board but I do like this colourway and would really like a Moogle.

[templai]

Really should just do a group buy for WYSE reproduction at this point. Say only 100 reproduction sets sold, but 100 moogles and 50 9 keys. The moogles would sell at the 200 price point and the 9 keys at the 150 price point.

I agree as well.

[evolyn]

you know iam up too buy more ! i hope it works.