[IC] GMK Classic Beige 1.25x mods, 1.75x rt shift, 6.25 space, center caps lock

[bazh]

full set pls

[riotonthebay]

The costs associated with a GB not hitting MOQ are almost zero. I don't see any downside to posting the full set and seeing how it does. I'm also skeptical that an IC is a good representative sample of buyers.

All of which is to say: full set, and let the GB numbers speak for themselves.

[avtar]

I wonder if there are users here who are active on Asian forums that could help collect orders and/or act as proxies.

[bazh]

or for hitting MoQ, we can have some interesting sub-legend, like the purple one on some G80-1000 board

[Photekq]

or for hitting MoQ, we can have some interesting sub-legend, like the purple one on some G80-1000 board

Not sure UK ISO would hit MOQ )

[bazh]

do it in ANSI \m/

[Photekq]

do it in ANSI \m/

I think those purple legends on that 1000HAG only have a purpose on UK ISO, unless you're thinking of making up some new purple legends.

[bazh]

yeah I know but  I just love the purple color so

[CommonCurt]

It's everything you need to use an Originative or IMSTO set with a standard board. But speak up if you would also like/prefer a full classic beige GMK set.

I would love to get a full classic white/beige GMK set.   

Also would be interested in getting a separate pro pack with the 1.25 mods, center stem caps lock, etc. (Depending on price)

[Pacifist]

could there be a mod only set?

[CommonCurt]

I vote C or B

[Heezy]

could there be a mod only set?

I think this should be included, a full set and a mod bundle.

[dustinhxc]

How much do you want for a mod set, let's do this!

[Candyflip]

C) Both
I know there are plenty of people that will buy the whole set and there are those that need the moogle so why not both? I would buy both!

[iAmAhab]

I'm very much down for the bundle.

[GhostofHarry]

I will vote for A and C as i have got the imsto cyrillic dyesub

will be pretty nice if i can get a winkey bottom row to perfect the set:thumb:

[quochung1989]

Vote C

We can go to Capslock & Scroll lock arrow as below picture? Even add some windowed caps 



(picture of Dubs)

[CommonCurt]

Vote C

We can go to Capslock & Scroll lock arrow as below picture? Even add some windowed caps 

Show Image

(picture of Dubs)

That does look good,  but I think that text looks better on a classic scheme.

[UniClown]

Full Classic gets my vote. Either way, please ensure a 1.75x rShift makes it.

[quochung1989]

Vote C

We can go to Capslock & Scroll lock arrow as below picture? Even add some windowed caps 

Show Image

(picture of Dubs)

That does look good,  but I think that text looks better on a classic scheme.

Yeah of course :) but we can add it as options. May be someone wanna it  :p

[CommonCurt]

Vote C

We can go to Capslock & Scroll lock arrow as below picture? Even add some windowed caps 

Show Image

(picture of Dubs)

That does look good,  but I think that text looks better on a classic scheme.

Yeah of course :) but we can add it as options. May be someone wanna it  :p

If they were a add on option I would get them :D

[quochung1989]

Vote C

We can go to Capslock & Scroll lock arrow as below picture? Even add some windowed caps 

Show Image

(picture of Dubs)

That does look good,  but I think that text looks better on a classic scheme.

Yeah of course :) but we can add it as options. May be someone wanna it  :p

If they were a add on option I would get them :D

Yeah same me hahaha :p

[lightsout714]

Any price quotes yet from GMK? tinlong is doing his moogle buy but at $60 shipped idk. Ivan was talking about getting the sets down to about $100 for his upcoming Dolch buy. $100 for a complete set sounds way better than $60 for 20% of a set.

[avtar]

Would it be possible to have an add-on for beige spacebars?

[tinlong117]

Full set? We will never hit the MOQ.

[nubbinator]

Full set? We will never hit the MOQ.

Sure we will.  Or are you just crapping the thread because you want your more expensive set to be successful.  I'd rather buy a marginally more expensive full set and would definitely be down.  Hell, if we had a $100 full set, I'd be down for two or three, even if I just resold one or two later.

[tinlong117]

Full set? We will never hit the MOQ.

Sure we will.  Or are you just crapping the thread because you want your more expensive set to be successful.  I'd rather buy a marginally more expensive full set and would definitely be down.  Hell, if we had a $100 full set, I'd be down for two or three, even if I just resold one or two later.

What happened to last Ivan's fullset GB?

[lightsout714]

Full set? We will never hit the MOQ.

Sure we will.  Or are you just crapping the thread because you want your more expensive set to be successful.  I'd rather buy a marginally more expensive full set and would definitely be down.  Hell, if we had a $100 full set, I'd be down for two or three, even if I just resold one or two later.

OC peeps think alike

Full set? We will never hit the MOQ.

Sure we will.  Or are you just crapping the thread because you want your more expensive set to be successful.  I'd rather buy a marginally more expensive full set and would definitely be down.  Hell, if we had a $100 full set, I'd be down for two or three, even if I just resold one or two later.

What happened to last Ivan's fullset GB?

That was a not so popular single color set. Classic beige is classic beige.

[nubbinator]

Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward.  His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set.  A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.

[cphead]

Full set? We will never hit the MOQ.

Sure we will.  Or are you just crapping the thread because you want your more expensive set to be successful.  I'd rather buy a marginally more expensive full set and would definitely be down.  Hell, if we had a $100 full set, I'd be down for two or three, even if I just resold one or two later.

What happened to last Ivan's fullset GB?

The demand for two tone classic beige is much higher than single tone white on dark gray. The idea for white on dark gray was to have a base set for mixing and matching mods and alphas, but with classic beige you don't have to do that. It's also much more attractive to people just getting into keyboards.

Of course, no one knows if this will reach MOQ without trying it 

[tinlong117]

Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward.  His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set.  A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.

It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.

EDIT: I don't think it's good to have 2 GMK full sets GB at the same time.

[yicaoyimu]

Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward.  His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set.  A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.

It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.

^ this. Ivan's dark grey full set is $120 for almost all layout you can think of but it still didn't hit MOQ.

link: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48798.0

Again, I'm just trying to provide the right information. Not saying this buy won't hit MOQ or anything.

[HoffmanMyster]

Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward.  His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set.  A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.

It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.

I don't consider it selfish to want a GB to succeed.   

[nubbinator]

Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward.  His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set.  A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.

It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.

EDIT: I don't think it's good to have 2 GMK full sets GB at the same time.

Emphasis on at the end.  I stopped following the thread because the price was all over the place.  I'm sure tons of other people stopped looking because they only knew about the incredibly expensive $200+ full set and never saw the price changes.  If you have a low initial price, more people are willing to commit.

And what's selfish about ANSI?  Honestly, ISO is the biggest drag on any GB.  If you look at the numbers, Tsangan kits get more commits than ISO sets in group buys.  ISO just fails, even with SP numbers.  Why should the community carry ISO on GMK when they can't even hit minimum quantities at SP?  I'm all for making ISO and helping if it's a little short, but when you can't even hit the low SP minimums, it's not fair to the community to subsidize it on GMK.  If you want ISO, split the cost of the minimum and give the ISO buyers the extras.  They can sell them to recoup their losses.

And who cares what you think about two GMK sets at the same time.  If we can have multiple people committing to $150+ on two different SP sets being made at the same time, who's to say they can't commit to $200 on two higher quality good GMK sets.

[tinlong117]

Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward.  His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set.  A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.

It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.

EDIT: I don't think it's good to have 2 GMK full sets GB at the same time.

Emphasis on at the end.  I stopped following the thread because the price was all over the place.  I'm sure tons of other people stopped looking because they only knew about the incredibly expensive $200+ full set and never saw the price changes.  If you have a low initial price, more people are willing to commit.

And what's selfish about ANSI?  Honestly, ISO is the biggest drag on any GB.  If you look at the numbers, Tsangan kits get more commits than ISO sets in group buys.  ISO just fails, even with SP numbers.  Why should the community carry ISO on GMK when they can't even hit minimum quantities at SP.  I'm all for making ISO and helping if it's a little short, but when you can't even hit the low SP minimums, it's not fair to the community to subsidize it.

Typical American.

I mean ISO users also pay what they don't/have no use. We have this discussion for so many times so I'm not going to bring this up again. 

And who cares what you think about two GMK sets at the same time.

IVAN thinks the same.

If we can have multiple people committing to $150+ on two different SP sets being made at the same time, who's to say they can't commit to $200 on two higher quality good GMK sets.

MOQ of SP sets - 1
MOQ of GMK sets - 250

[nubbinator]

And that's fine.  You never know if you don't try.  If you're talking $150+ sets, of course one or both won't do well, but if you do it close to the $100 mark, things will be different.  But you're just hanging on to one small part of what I said.  I'm just wondering why you're crapping this thread when you have your own more expensive GB.

[lightsout714]

Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward.  His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set.  A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.

It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.

EDIT: I don't think it's good to have 2 GMK full sets GB at the same time.

Emphasis on at the end.  I stopped following the thread because the price was all over the place.  I'm sure tons of other people stopped looking because they only knew about the incredibly expensive $200+ full set and never saw the price changes.  If you have a low initial price, more people are willing to commit.

And what's selfish about ANSI?  Honestly, ISO is the biggest drag on any GB.  If you look at the numbers, Tsangan kits get more commits than ISO sets in group buys.  ISO just fails, even with SP numbers.  Why should the community carry ISO on GMK when they can't even hit minimum quantities at SP.  I'm all for making ISO and helping if it's a little short, but when you can't even hit the low SP minimums, it's not fair to the community to subsidize it.

And who cares what you think about two GMK sets at the same time. If we can have multiple people committing to $150+ on two different SP sets being made at the same time, who's to say they can't commit to $200 on two higher quality good GMK sets.

IVAN thinks the same.

Well we don't even have one going right now.

[CommonCurt]

What GB is Ivan running right now?

[lightsout714]

What GB is Ivan running right now?

Black on black PBT. He said he will be doing a Dolch GMK soon. (I think he is also doing a novelty key buy as well. Dude is a GB stud!)

[bazh]

Current BoB set is made by Plum, not BSP, even with the nice price ($75) and lowerer MoQ (300) compared to BSP (something like $130 for MoQ of 400), the set was struggling quite hard with the MoQ though 

[CommonCurt]

What GB is Ivan running right now?

Black on black PBT. He said he will be doing a Dolch GMK soon. (I think he is also doing a novelty key buy as well. Dude is a GB stud!)

I thought the black on black PBT was finished just waiting on samples.  I know that he is taking polls for R2 novelty caps.

[lightsout714]

What GB is Ivan running right now?

Black on black PBT. He said he will be doing a Dolch GMK soon. (I think he is also doing a novelty key buy as well. Dude is a GB stud!)

I thought the black on black PBT was finished just waiting on samples.  I know that he is taking polls for R2 novelty caps.

Well yeah I meant thats what he has going on. He has no current GMK buy as far as I know.

[pasph]

Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward.  His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set.  A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.

It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.

EDIT: I don't think it's good to have 2 GMK full sets GB at the same time.

Emphasis on at the end.  I stopped following the thread because the price was all over the place.  I'm sure tons of other people stopped looking because they only knew about the incredibly expensive $200+ full set and never saw the price changes.  If you have a low initial price, more people are willing to commit.

And what's selfish about ANSI?  Honestly, ISO is the biggest drag on any GB.  If you look at the numbers, Tsangan kits get more commits than ISO sets in group buys.  ISO just fails, even with SP numbers.  Why should the community carry ISO on GMK when they can't even hit minimum quantities at SP?  I'm all for making ISO and helping if it's a little short, but when you can't even hit the low SP minimums, it's not fair to the community to subsidize it on GMK.  If you want ISO, split the cost of the minimum and give the ISO buyers the extras.  They can sell them to recoup their losses.

And who cares what you think about two GMK sets at the same time.  If we can have multiple people committing to $150+ on two different SP sets being made at the same time, who's to say they can't commit to $200 on two higher quality good GMK sets.

Have you seen Granite GB?
Have you seen R5 GB?
Iso people (not you) has paid for their INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE KITS (not for 4 Keys iso kit).
I don't want your "charity".

[CommonCurt]

What GB is Ivan running right now?

Black on black PBT. He said he will be doing a Dolch GMK soon. (I think he is also doing a novelty key buy as well. Dude is a GB stud!)

I thought the black on black PBT was finished just waiting on samples.  I know that he is taking polls for R2 novelty caps.

Well yeah I meant thats what he has going on. He has no current GMK buy as far as I know.

Yeah I think he is still deciding whether he is doing his next set in PBT or GMK.  I hope it's a classic beige/white PBT set.

[bueller]

Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward.  His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set.  A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.

It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.

EDIT: I don't think it's good to have 2 GMK full sets GB at the same time.

Emphasis on at the end.  I stopped following the thread because the price was all over the place.  I'm sure tons of other people stopped looking because they only knew about the incredibly expensive $200+ full set and never saw the price changes.  If you have a low initial price, more people are willing to commit.

And what's selfish about ANSI?  Honestly, ISO is the biggest drag on any GB.  If you look at the numbers, Tsangan kits get more commits than ISO sets in group buys.  ISO just fails, even with SP numbers.  Why should the community carry ISO on GMK when they can't even hit minimum quantities at SP?  I'm all for making ISO and helping if it's a little short, but when you can't even hit the low SP minimums, it's not fair to the community to subsidize it on GMK.  If you want ISO, split the cost of the minimum and give the ISO buyers the extras.  They can sell them to recoup their losses.

And who cares what you think about two GMK sets at the same time.  If we can have multiple people committing to $150+ on two different SP sets being made at the same time, who's to say they can't commit to $200 on two higher quality good GMK sets.

Have you seen Granite GB?
Have you seen R5 GB?
Iso people (not you) has paid for their INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE KITS (not for 4 Keys iso kit).
I don't want your "charity".

Ughhh neither of those have the MOQ of GMK, how is that a fair comparison?

[Candyflip]

Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward.  His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set.  A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.

It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.

EDIT: I don't think it's good to have 2 GMK full sets GB at the same time.

Emphasis on at the end.  I stopped following the thread because the price was all over the place.  I'm sure tons of other people stopped looking because they only knew about the incredibly expensive $200+ full set and never saw the price changes.  If you have a low initial price, more people are willing to commit.

And what's selfish about ANSI?  Honestly, ISO is the biggest drag on any GB.  If you look at the numbers, Tsangan kits get more commits than ISO sets in group buys.  ISO just fails, even with SP numbers.  Why should the community carry ISO on GMK when they can't even hit minimum quantities at SP?  I'm all for making ISO and helping if it's a little short, but when you can't even hit the low SP minimums, it's not fair to the community to subsidize it on GMK.  If you want ISO, split the cost of the minimum and give the ISO buyers the extras.  They can sell them to recoup their losses.

And who cares what you think about two GMK sets at the same time.  If we can have multiple people committing to $150+ on two different SP sets being made at the same time, who's to say they can't commit to $200 on two higher quality good GMK sets.

Have you seen Granite GB?
Have you seen R5 GB?
Iso people (not you) has paid for their INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE KITS (not for 4 Keys iso kit).
I don't want your "charity".

Ughhh neither of those have the MOQ of GMK, how is that a fair comparison?

Nor the GMK price..

[IvanIvanovich]

With GMK... offering DE,IT,ES,NO,SE,FR...etc. there is not enough interest from those people to reach MOQ of 250. With SP stuff you can offer anything as long as it makes like MOQ of 10 and people will pay that price it can be made. For GB though... it's like 4 keys extra on US so it's not a big deal to offer that ISO. But even still I will probably be cutting those dedicated keys and have the GB alternate letter pad side print on the US ones along with chopping some of the extra others that are not so common that were on the white/grey set from before.
Even still... that groupbuy came only 40 sets short of the 250 MOQ. If Korea forums participated at all then it probably would have happened but I have no idea what their deal is lately. Seems like they have all gone back to separatist stance.

Dolch buy will start soon, next month sometime.

[quochung1989]

With GMK... offering DE,IT,ES,NO,SE,FR...etc. there is not enough interest from those people to reach MOQ of 250. With SP stuff you can offer anything as long as it makes like MOQ of 10 and people will pay that price it can be made. For GB though... it's like 4 keys extra on US so it's not a big deal to offer that ISO. But even still I will probably be cutting those dedicated keys and have the GB alternate letter pad side print on the US ones along with chopping some of the extra others that are not so common that were on the white/grey set from before.
Even still... that groupbuy came only 40 sets short of the 250 MOQ. If Korea forums participated at all then it probably would have happened but I have no idea what their deal is lately. Seems like they have all gone back to separatist stance.

Dolch buy will start soon, next month sometime.

If you don't go ISO kit, maybe we can't to lead some member on DT to participate group buy who they like ISO layout

Good news about dolch 

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Ideally I wish we could get a GB that offers a full set of GMK white/beige.

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[CommonCurt]

Ideally I wish we could get a GB that offers a full set of GMK white/beige.

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