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Offline ricyuyc

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 22:36:07 »
Good design, would be nice to include mods for egrodox  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 22:37:19 »
Good design, would be nice to include mods for egrodox  :thumb:

Seconded.
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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 25 October 2017, 01:41:42 »
Very nice work on the mods.  Creative and original but they totally make sense.

Thank you!

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 25 October 2017, 01:47:50 »
Good design, would be nice to include mods for egrodox  :thumb:

Seconded.

Already in the pipes! I have the first version ready but only with placeholders. Will likely go with unlabeled (or "faux" labeled) mods as left and right mods have different alignments and I don't want the kit to explode with too many keys as it'd be too expensive, probably
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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #54 on: Wed, 25 October 2017, 03:33:03 »
Already in the pipes! I have the first version ready but only with placeholders. Will likely go with unlabeled (or "faux" labeled) mods as left and right mods have different alignments and I don't want the kit to explode with too many keys as it'd be too expensive, probably

Cool beans. 'Faux labeled' would have my vote.
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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 25 October 2017, 03:44:34 »
The addition of icons for the mods is a big improvement :thumb:

I thirded the ergodox. And I agree about the faux too since there are so many configuration unique to everyone but in the same time, I hate blank keys when the alphas is legended. So faux will do the justice here. A very nice example of faux legend is SA Godspeed novelties kit and G20 Semiotics.

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 25 October 2017, 05:13:08 »
The addition of icons for the mods is a big improvement :thumb:

I thirded the ergodox. And I agree about the faux too since there are so many configuration unique to everyone but in the same time, I hate blank keys when the alphas is legended. So faux will do the justice here. A very nice example of faux legend is SA Godspeed novelties kit and G20 Semiotics.

Ye, I also liked Oblotzky's take in Oblivion.

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #57 on: Wed, 25 October 2017, 08:34:54 »
Just passing by to say I still love this.

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #58 on: Wed, 25 October 2017, 08:48:43 »
Just passing by to say I still love this.

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #59 on: Thu, 26 October 2017, 18:24:26 »
Here is what I am currently thinking for the faux labels:



Uses the old striped mods version. Haven't gotten around to do the icons, yet.

The bottom row uses abbreviations of a bunch of NASA Spaceshuttle systems. The side mods will feature more relatable keywords.
If you have suggestions, please let me know!

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 26 October 2017, 21:41:05 »
Here is what I am currently thinking for the faux labels:

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Uses the old striped mods version. Haven't gotten around to do the icons, yet.

The bottom row uses abbreviations of a bunch of NASA Spaceshuttle systems. The side mods will feature more relatable keywords.
If you have suggestions, please let me know!
Really Great  ;D

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 27 October 2017, 00:40:43 »
Here is what I am currently thinking for the faux labels:
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These are really appealing. I can't wait to see the icon version. My only critique is that "diagnose" should really just be "diag" since all the other labels are 4 letters or fewer.

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #62 on: Fri, 27 October 2017, 00:45:32 »
Err.. Sorry I got distracted by those ergodox case render  :eek:

I'm not sure about the 4 letters only tho, since on usual key there are confirm and also shift. But one thing I wanna make sure is: we still go with white alpha, right? That clinical look, pure and sterile!

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 27 October 2017, 06:15:44 »
Here is what I am currently thinking for the faux labels:
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These are really appealing. I can't wait to see the icon version. My only critique is that "diagnose" should really just be "diag" since all the other labels are 4 letters or fewer.

Oh wow, what a coincidence. I haven't actually planned on that as I was changing the labels quite often.  I wouldn't limit myself to four letters though but potentially change a few to have more letters. I'll try out your suggestion as well, though.

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 27 October 2017, 06:18:39 »
Err.. Sorry I got distracted by those ergodox case render  :eek:

I'm not sure about the 4 letters only tho, since on usual key there are confirm and also shift. But one thing I wanna make sure is: we still go with white alpha, right? That clinical look, pure and sterile!

So far I intend to run with to sets of alphas (dark grey and white) but let people vote on modifiers on r/mk potentially. What do you think?

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #65 on: Sun, 29 October 2017, 13:09:09 »
Any concrete plans on the novelties yet? I think nobody responded to the third option (the coloured ones), but I really love them.

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #66 on: Sun, 29 October 2017, 14:43:37 »
Any concrete plans on the novelties yet? I think nobody responded to the third option (the coloured ones), but I really love them.

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Nothing on that front, no. The colored ones you mentioned were meant to be extended to all mods but I don't think I am going to provide another voting option for completely new mods. It's just too much work and I still have ideas how to optimize the current versions (e.g. color accents, playing with patterns, additional artwork on much smaller scale, that kinda stuff).

That being said, I'd still like to have a nice kit of novelties (5 to 10 max), just not sure on the topic or style. I think, WipeOut-ish would look awesome but I am having trouble creating a reasonable story around them in relation to the current theme.

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #67 on: Sun, 29 October 2017, 14:53:24 »
I understand, and it sounds great. Hopefully there will be a few subtle splashes of colour in the novelties, but even if not, the set is awesome!

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 29 October 2017, 15:05:42 »
I understand, and it sounds great. Hopefully there will be a few subtle splashes of colour in the novelties, but even if not, the set is awesome!

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Thanks, mate! Will see what I can do! Just looked at the date and it's over a year ago I started this thread :eek: Need to finish working on it at some point :)
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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #69 on: Mon, 30 October 2017, 17:15:39 »
A few icons need some more work (and should be on a different key) but a couple of them I am quite happy about!



A few color accents and the Ergodox kit should be good!

Edit: All of the side mods have four letters, Parva Ovis ;)

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 06 November 2017, 04:01:36 »
I don't mind a red accent on enter like you show in the past, kinda spice thins up, make it looks important so people will have a fair warning not to go near them. Anoher pair of 1u red will be appreciated as it can be used almost everywhere, if you make them novelites.

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 06 November 2017, 20:58:44 »
This is an amazing looking set. The more Moon symbols you can incorporate the better! I love the look of that movie, perfect mixture of future yet worn and retro sci-fi.

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #72 on: Mon, 25 December 2017, 23:43:39 »
I am getting into the sub kits right now (and one new mod novelty design variant):

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In order: 60% kit, compatibility kit, 40% kit, ortho kit.
Missing from here are TKL and numpad, mainly because they don't have fancy icons or thick bars at the bottom (instead, they're more like the alphas in terms of design)

Bumping with the kit which I think will look best :thumb:

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #73 on: Tue, 26 December 2017, 01:44:22 »
Now it's bumped, any progress?

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #74 on: Tue, 26 December 2017, 10:40:25 »
No progress on novelties (which I consider blocking on a wider IC), unfortunately.

In the meantime, tried to see if I can find a similar font for a Hiragana alphas kit:



I doubt that natives would approve of that choice :P would probably go for a more traditional font

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #75 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 08:41:30 »
No progress on novelties (which I consider blocking on a wider IC), unfortunately.

In the meantime, tried to see if I can find a similar font for a Hiragana alphas kit:

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I doubt that natives would approve of that choice :P would probably go for a more traditional font

When I think it can't go any better, you make Hiragana alpha... Pls make it happen :rolleyes:


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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #76 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 18:39:58 »
No progress on novelties (which I consider blocking on a wider IC), unfortunately.

In the meantime, tried to see if I can find a similar font for a Hiragana alphas kit:

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I doubt that natives would approve of that choice :P would probably go for a more traditional font

When I think it can't go any better, you make Hiragana alpha... Pls make it happen :rolleyes:

Haha, thanks, mate!
It's going to happen, question is only when ;)

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #77 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 23:03:06 »
No progress on novelties (which I consider blocking on a wider IC), unfortunately.

In the meantime, tried to see if I can find a similar font for a Hiragana alphas kit:

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I doubt that natives would approve of that choice :P would probably go for a more traditional font

When I think it can't go any better, you make Hiragana alpha... Pls make it happen :rolleyes:

Haha, thanks, mate!
It's going to happen, question is only when ;)

What are you waiting for, exactly? Btw, I hear the company doing DSA Drifter is having a thicker DSA, maybe you should consider that

Offline Vigrith

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #78 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 23:21:23 »
Just popping by to say I'm still here and I still love this set. The Hiragana is beautiful and fits the theme of the set wonderfully in ways Latin did not,and although in my personal opinion it sort of clashes with the Latin mods as per the render shown, I am certain this is something you are aware of already and can work on and deal with in time.

Very much looking forward to further developments.

Offline japanitrat

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #79 on: Fri, 29 December 2017, 08:41:40 »
No progress on novelties (which I consider blocking on a wider IC), unfortunately.

In the meantime, tried to see if I can find a similar font for a Hiragana alphas kit:

Show Image


I doubt that natives would approve of that choice :P would probably go for a more traditional font

When I think it can't go any better, you make Hiragana alpha... Pls make it happen :rolleyes:

Haha, thanks, mate!
It's going to happen, question is only when ;)

What are you waiting for, exactly? Btw, I hear the company doing DSA Drifter is having a thicker DSA, maybe you should consider that

Yeah, I also heard that they are slightly less accurate, though, due to the dye sub process they are using.

I am still waiting for a good idea for a novelty theme kit. I haven't had the time to attend to it fully but I hope to get to it real soon, again :/

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #80 on: Fri, 29 December 2017, 08:51:26 »
Just popping by to say I'm still here and I still love this set. The Hiragana is beautiful and fits the theme of the set wonderfully in ways Latin did not,and although in my personal opinion it sort of clashes with the Latin mods as per the render shown, I am certain this is something you are aware of already and can work on and deal with in time.

Very much looking forward to further developments.

Thanks, Vigrith, much appreciated! :)

On the mismatch between the legends, yeah, I agree. Tried with the current icon kits but it's not working well either, unfortunately. I'll check if I can come up with a different mod kit that works well with both alpha variants.

Japanese keyboards usually have a bunch of special modifiers but others are still plain English, e.g. shift or enter. Maybe Katakana mods would work for those but I don't know how this floats with native Japanese folks, honestly.

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #81 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 14:23:28 »
Still following, this would be very cool even without mods though the icon mods are great looking as well!

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #82 on: Thu, 25 January 2018, 06:31:29 »
This is cool, Me likey!

I actually really like the original "dark theme" render in the OP. The striped mods in the ergodox render are cool, too!

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #83 on: Thu, 25 January 2018, 19:47:07 »
Yea I really like the mods with the subtle hex pattern and icons!

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #84 on: Thu, 25 January 2018, 22:01:29 »
This has some potential, very interested! Have a silver board that this would go perfectly with, just keep pushing that NASA theme and it’ll be great


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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #85 on: Fri, 26 January 2018, 14:13:25 »
This has some serious potential

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #86 on: Sat, 27 January 2018, 01:43:44 »
Would love some bright coloured modifiers in the same style...

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #87 on: Mon, 29 January 2018, 03:02:09 »
The set looks really nice. Especially with the renders. Did you do the blender renders from scratch or is there a repo for different keycap profiles?  :eek:

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #88 on: Mon, 29 January 2018, 06:44:58 »
This would look REALLY good on the Mars TKL that just hit GB!

I'm in for one of those, so now this just needs to go to GB so I can be in for this, too!

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #89 on: Mon, 29 January 2018, 13:49:19 »
This would look REALLY good on the Mars TKL that just hit GB!

I'm in for one of those, so now this just needs to go to GB so I can be in for this, too!

It really would, wouldn't it? Unfortunately, I have to spend my evenings on other design stuff (job) atm. I don't think this is going to wider IC or even GB phase anytime soon.

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #90 on: Mon, 29 January 2018, 13:50:43 »
The set looks really nice. Especially with the renders. Did you do the blender renders from scratch or is there a repo for different keycap profiles?  :eek:

Thanks for the appreciation!

I think I got the DSA base models from some Github repo but had to extend it quite a lot to accomodate for missing key sizes, stepped caps lock and ISO enter.

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #91 on: Mon, 29 January 2018, 13:52:21 »
This has some potential, very interested! Have a silver board that this would go perfectly with, just keep pushing that NASA theme and it’ll be great

Agreed :)
and thank you!

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #92 on: Mon, 29 January 2018, 13:55:37 »
Would love some bright coloured modifiers in the same style...

OK, but only after I have a novelties kit :)

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #93 on: Thu, 15 February 2018, 08:49:32 »
This is exactly what I'm looking for!

I really liked this https://pimpmykeyboard.com/g20-semiotic-keycap-set/ Semitotic kit from Alien, but wanted actual letters instead of symbols.  Your board seems awesome.


When can I buy it!?

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #94 on: Thu, 15 February 2018, 13:01:41 »
Id definitely be in for a set!
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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #95 on: Fri, 16 February 2018, 08:22:51 »
This would look REALLY good on the Mars TKL that just hit GB!

I'm in for one of those, so now this just needs to go to GB so I can be in for this, too!

It really would, wouldn't it? Unfortunately, I have to spend my evenings on other design stuff (job) atm. I don't think this is going to wider IC or even GB phase anytime soon.
No rush, it'd be better to do it right than fast and sloppy!

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #96 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 11:07:52 »
when does it start?

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #97 on: Tue, 29 May 2018, 01:34:48 »
! Any news?

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #98 on: Tue, 29 May 2018, 03:55:15 »
! Any news?

Nope :(
Swamped with work.
I collected a lot of ideas for novelties and started doing sketches for them. Nothing for sharing, yet, though.

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Re: [IC] DSA Discovery (working title)
« Reply #99 on: Wed, 30 May 2018, 17:54:20 »
Interested as well. Subscribing!