2080TI
4K 120hz monitor,
Intel's new 10core line. since it has a pretty high turbo.
It's not going to get to $12000.
Fortnight doesn't really scale well in SLI either.
The one time Threadripper is a legitimate option you wint the other way :eek:
I don't want you guy's to just think I am a jerk. I have money but I try to be nice too. You can read my old posts here to see for instance the crazy super cars I have. So I am just mentioning this because I already have 3 $40,000 displays! Eizo CG3145. I guess I am set there. I actually have a 2x Xeon Platinum Machine but it sucks at gaming go figure. so does the Quadro RTX 8000. I suppose that is no surprise to you.Well yeah dual cpu systems are not great for gaming and server cpus are optimized for high core count and stability, not for speed, and games do rarely use more than 4 cores but need those cores to be fast, and server ram is also usually slower, and yeah epyc will give you the same experience there than xeon, maybe a tiny bit better as some Epyc have pretty high frequency, but then you need the motherboard, and a way to cool the motherboard vrm
I wanted an Eypic though. I figure I would be shooting myself in the foot allover again! So I am looking for a 3990X I guess. For the drive I want a 1TB M.2. I am not sure if the pro comes in 1TB or only the 970. I will have to look. I totally forgot about the pro. I think the pro is a bit slower but way higher MTBF. Even I have had 2 970's fail! Now get this. I have had water leaks. My guy building it refuses to use water. I am not overclocking. this machine is fast enough gee whiz. He says water will certainly get you lower temps but custom is the only way never AIO. He said custom can and will leak as has happened to me.Yeah custom watercooling can leak, mine did until i let some air in the reservoir, i guess the pressure was getting too high. and yeah i know of a lot of peoples who do not want to touch watercooling, for you there is the Noctua NHD15, pretty much the best air cooler around, now even comes in black.
so forget that since he will not even do it. Air it is. I am going to use the rest of the stuff(pretty much everything) yui said. thank you! I know SLI is dead. I am just going to get a single Founders edition.if you are not going for water the founder edition will never reach its full potential, i would go for one with triple fans, maybe even an overclocked one
This should honestly be about half my budget? Especially since no water. I also want no LED's and a simple, small case. It does have to be a 1200W Platinum PSU though.That power supply was a bit overkill for 2 gpu with only one yeah you should take something a bit less powerfull, and the price difference for the efficiency does not make them worth it in the long run, i am just a bit of a nerd and i like the tech behind them.
OR if my guy says less watts is okay I would be very happy with that due to electric bill. Yes, I just said saving money LOL. The thing though is I do not want it to be over 80 decibels. Which I think is reasonable because that is already louder than a freight train. He only uses Noctua so I think those are good? I hear the AMD is not hard to cool if not OC'd?Noctua does make the most silent fans, yes, and the days of amd being hard to cool are gone but the threadripper is the biggest cpu around, on air even with full noctuas i will expect some noise, not 80db mind you, much lower.
Thank you all for such quick replies in the middle of the night! Hey, Turtle that is very funny. We used to throw Macs out our car window at 160MPH! That is what we think about them. I garner you think about the same LOL. BTW, I also take it you know who I am? I mean from this part of the land......well it is not the middle of the night everywhere, here it is 12 so yeah not hard. as for macs, yeah the hardware is not great, and way overpriced but the G5 powermacs looked good man, i kinda want to build a modern pc in one.
Reading that while some of us are struggling to pay rent and keep food in the fridge fills me with nothing but disdain honestly.
Learn to read a room, don't brag about how well off you are while others starve in the gutter next to you, you just come off as an *******.
Thank you very much yui. I will get this built asap. Luckily my guy is working right now. I bet on air with an 750W or so PSU this comes in at about 4 grand or less! I also saw the Noctua is only 45DB! Oh man am I stoked!
noisy turtle. I did not see that coming from you. I did not know you were upon hard times. My true apologies to you. I did not really mean to brag so much as to say "I have that part taken care of". Still I see how it came off. I am terribly sorry. my fault entirely. I should use a bit more tact in what I write in a public forum. I have known you for years. I am exceptionally apologetic that I struck a bad cord with you. I am not sure what else to say. TBH, Those were purchased by my job anyhow. I do not actually "personally" own them. I hope that at least makes you feel better. I would try to sneak my job into paying for this PC but that would be stealing from the hand that feeds me. Not a great idea. Anyways. My sincere apologies noisy Turtle. I surely hope things look up for you. May God bless you.
Please lets try to end this thread on a good note. I got the computer specs so that part is taken care of. Thank you yui. noisy turtle, once again I am terribly sorry that I upset you. I had no idea that you were struggling to get by. I shall pray for you.
Is this a parody or something?
2080TI
4K 120hz monitor,
Intel's new 10core line. since it has a pretty high turbo.
It's not going to get to $12000.
Fortnight doesn't really scale well in SLI either.
The one time Threadripper is a legitimate option you went the other way :eek:
2080TI
4K 120hz monitor,
Intel's new 10core line. since it has a pretty high turbo.
It's not going to get to $12000.
Fortnight doesn't really scale well in SLI either.
The one time Threadripper is a legitimate option you went the other way :eek:
Problem is TR is known to have meh performance in games, but when it comes to rendering and other computational they're beasts.
I would say a 3900x would be more than enough, as AM4 is crushing it but again I as well want to see how well this 10th gen 14nm refresh performs (even though at 4k the GPU is going to do the grunt work)
Also I would go for the 4k 144hz options why stop at 120hz lol.
I love GTA. did you know GTA is the most machine intensive game?
So is that a good machine I got?
GTA is CPU dependent not GPU dependent.I love GTA. did you know GTA is the most machine intensive game?GTA is actually really well optimized, it will run on almost anything with an ok dedicated graphics card.
GTA is CPU dependent not GPU dependent.I love GTA. did you know GTA is the most machine intensive game?GTA is actually really well optimized, it will run on almost anything with an ok dedicated graphics card.
On release pretty much nothing could play GTA4 and San Andreas (not sure about 5) at full detail. It was one of the first to really make use use of multi-core processors, which it still does.
San Andreas is 15 years old, it shouldn't be a problem on anything even remotely recent. LOLYes, I do believe that's still the case with GTA V. I'm aware of San Andreas and 4's horrible PC optimization. That's part of the reason I have yet to have even bothered to try either game on PC, although I imagine my system can just power through it now. 5 is another beast in that regard, and so is RDR2. It seems to me that Rockstar is finally taking PC gaming seriously, even if it takes them a year to finally release their games on the platform.GTA is CPU dependent not GPU dependent.I love GTA. did you know GTA is the most machine intensive game?GTA is actually really well optimized, it will run on almost anything with an ok dedicated graphics card.
On release pretty much nothing could play GTA4 and San Andreas (not sure about 5) at full detail. It was one of the first to really make use use of multi-core processors, which it still does.
I have the distinct impression they actually hate PC players, I think most game companies who do consoles do.
walie is right. I am really bad at what I say. that being said I did not want to mess with building a computer. A good brand name would do. My "budget" was obscene. I did not realize what they "really" cost.
So, I just ordered this one. Apparently I got the last one too!
https://store.asus.com/us/item/202003AM280000011/A50159-ROG-Strix-GA35-Gaming-Desktop-PC%2C-GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti%2C-Factory-Overclocked-AMD-Ryzen-9-3950X%2C-32GB-DDR4-RAM%2C-1TB-PCIe-SSD-%2B-2TB-HDD%2C-Dual-Hot-Swap-SSD-Bays%2C-Windows-10-Professional%2C-GA35DX-XS99X
By the way, I sincerely apologize to you once again turtle and anyone else I may have offended. I do not mean to habitually do this I am just not very good at all with conversation.
Custom water will leak on you.
San Andreas is 15 years old, it shouldn't be a problem on anything even remotely recent. LOL
Personally, I think it's the best one.
I disagree, Rockstar isn't taking PC play any more serious than they have in the past.
I have the distinct impression they actually hate PC players, I think most game companies who do consoles do.
Yeah. Plus GTA. The latest GTA scales to whatever you can throw at it. Not Fortnite. Fortnite is just cool. I do not think Asus would skimp on this. It is not HP we are talking about here. Nothing is proprietary. It has their best ROG board in it. The PSU is Platinum plus. I think AIO is okay but stupid. Custom water will leak on you.
These do not even refresh at 60HZ! only 59HZ!
r/buildapcforme could help youDon't bother,
But heres a build i found
Pretty sure the local guy can fix a dell/hp, buhhh you know, these are are car-mechanics of the PC world. Tp4 sure wouldn't trust them. hahahaha.Of course they can but if you buy a PC there it comes with a warranty there, if you buy a Dell the warranty comes from Dell.
It is all stock Asus stuff! microcenter has it all in stock. If you "build" it at micro center it is about $450 more! Yes, you could get more for the money but you have warranties from all over the place. the local computer store here that custom builds only gives a 90 day warranty. He charges $400 more for a 2 year warranty. That is why I personally was stuck. I can build one. I mean I could have, 40 years ago.....
I think I will though trade the video card with him for a radeon VII 16GB. He of course is jumping at the chance. I bet you all think that is stupid as well. See, if you flash the bios OC it is considerably faster than a 2080TI can OC! Not that I need it anyhow but what the heck. At my age this is my last machine. To be safe, you do not even need to flash it. I can just OC it in Wattman for now.
I think it is a "reasonably" robust machine regardless of the cost. Okay, lets be honest. It is overkill. I certainly did not "need more for my money" at the expense of not having a 2 year warranty from Asus completely serviceable through microcenter. In fact I bought the extended 5 year warranty for a whopping $79. To me, that meant more honestly. Different things matter to different people. I am not your folks age. Most people my age cannot even turn on a computer without help. I certainly cannot repair one. I know how to but my eyes and hands will not cooperate.
Anyhow, I am happy with my purchase. Quite frankly it was much more machine than I required. If I will trade the video card I am not entirely sure yet. On the one hand, mine is much more money. Which is obviously why he whishes to do the trade. It should arrive here by 3PM central time today. I will not install Asus' bloatware image but fresh from Microsoft. I will just use the Pro product key that comes with it on the fresh image from the USB stick. Of course I will need to go get all the drivers then but no big deal. Actually I never install mainboard, nic drivers ETC. I just use the Microsoft ones work fine and do not fill up the drive. I might get 1% more performance with the system optimized but would rather the drive space. Unfortunately I need to use an x1 card that is missing it's bracket. It is an expensive specialized card so I cannot replace it.
That is the end of the story pretty much :) You folks did in fact help me. Please don't think that you did not. I wanted to know what specs to look for and they were provided. Thank you all.
Oh well I do have one other indulgence. The Xbox Elite controller II. That is kind of a given without a wheel in GTA.
Fortnite I wouldn't ever worry about. How is it running GTA? CPU intensive game from what I hear.
How is it running GTA? CPU intensive game from what I hear.
That system will eat GTA V for breakfast. I had no difficulty running it on max in 1920x1080 with an i5-3570k (at stock clocks), 8gb of DDR3-2133, and a GTX 760, although there were noticeable frame drops from time to time with that setup. I think that mostly fell on the GPU.
It is a 970 EVO plus. I am not sure that is slow? Right.
1TB HyperDrive PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD (up to 3200MB/s)
Sintpinty, I do not understand what you mean? Call me stupid. chrome does not use a lot of resources you mean? I use edge! I will use that ram I assure you in Photoshop ETC. I feel 2080 TI is a much better value than a Quadro unless you get the 8000. which is about 13 Grand! Overclock the 2080 TI and it is a very potent card. Now with their new creator drivers it is just as good as a Quadro for creative content. That is actually a decent card in there. Asus did not skimp on the components on this machine. the only thing is limited to 64GB. 128GB in the future would be good. Probably never do it though so it is fine. Luckily it has full 4 slots. If it had only 2 the memory would have cost more than I could muster. like I said, mainly I felt I owed this guy something. That is an entirely another story in itself however.
Just because I am a schmuck! Local computer guy installed it. It was about $650 installed. Corsair. I think it was 4 sticks, CLS18. the original memory sucked. it was only 2666, CLS16. I know the timing was lower but the clock more than makes up for it. Just wasting my money. Honestly, I felt guilty against this guy and wanted to throw him a bone. So I did. That is all. He gave me $200 for old memory, so it was really only about $450. He installed some cards ETC. It was worth it to me.I hope he did quite a lot more than installing some cards.
Sintpinty, I do not understand what you mean? Call me stupid. chrome does not use a lot of resources you mean?
It would actually cost about $300 more to build this machine yourself!
Thank you Leslie. I kind of figured just miscommunication. I know I paid him his expensive price for the ram. the entire reason I got a prebuilt machine. the thing is he gave me a "trade in" on the memory it had. Best Buy would never do that! So it was still $200 less and it is good Corsair ram. The parts in this thing are pretty good. I looked up all the part numbers. Not the best but about second from the best in most instances. It would actually cost about $300 more to build this machine yourself! Plus I like it is quiet. Machines are never quiet anymore. Unless purpose built low-spec.
I just hope it does not leak. I really wanted fan cooled but I guess that is exactly why it is so quiet!
People, you can actually have a local shop build what YOU want, trust me, they don't mind!
You don't have to build it, they can even guide you if you need help or you can walk in with a list of what you want. In the end, unless you're buying from a company like Puget systems or they short change you on the PSU (specify you want name brand) you will almost always end up with something better and longer loved than a pre-built or mass manufacturered "custom" like the Asus above. And you have a local person who knows the system and can fix it when there's an issue instead of dealing with Asus, HP, Dell, etc.. help line and sending it back and forth for repair when something simple fails.
One of my buddies manages a local computer store and they will do high-end customs builds by request. He loves doing special projects like these, especially when budget is not an issue and the client demands the most balls to the wall machine.Anytime you get something other than a typical office computer it's fun, money or not.
With him the price of the video card was more than half the machine alone.There is a lot of shady people in the industry.
I know the guy gives a customer like this "special consideration". Problem is it was too much money with him. I would have rather supported a local business in fact. With him the price of the video card was more than half the machine alone. I am not saying he is a ripoff. He just does not have the volume on that level. To order one part ever is pretty much retail pricing for him. Then he must mark it up 40% to make a profit. Plus his buildout cost is very high on such a machine. I am bashing him in no way. I honestly would have supported him if I had the money. I got a nice machine I could afford and did not even have to pay upfront. To me, it was what I was looking for. I think AIO is okay. Too soon for me to tell.
This all seems like way too much drama for a machine that's supposed to play Fortnite :eek:
This all seems like way too much drama for a machine that's supposed to play Fortnite :eek:
Esports is going to become the PREMIERE sport, if not ONLY sport in the future.
Live sports is dead..
I wish all sports were dead, but people like what they like. I find watching people fight over an inflated animal organ for a few hours only marginally more boring than watching somebody else play a video game I could just launch and play myself.
I wish all sports were dead, but people like what they like. I find watching people fight over an inflated animal organ for a few hours only marginally more boring than watching somebody else play a video game I could just launch and play myself.
You have to play at a very high lvl to appreciate what Esports pr0s do.
If anyone just watches -Flash- play starcraft, they'd just think , wha, I could build tanks too bieetch..
The difference is, Flash can build tanks, micro his vulture/mines, macro his expansion, and scout SCV simultaneously. He can adapt to scenarios that someone watching at home simply can not even imagine.
It's the difference between a Casual, and a Serious Player even when we're just talking viewership.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/lKOlFFK.gif)
I have to come clean though. For one thing. I tried Fortnite. It is pretty cool but will take me hours to learn. I probably will not do it.