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Is there such a thing?
samstar:
Hi guys,
I'm new to this crazy keyboard hobby and already hooked.
My needs, however, are very specific. I'm looking for a full-size/TKL wireless mechanical keyboard with a built-in palm/wrist rest. The reason is that, apart from the fact that I'm just weird, I type with the keyboard in my lap. I find this so much more comfortable that having the keyboard on the desk. To me it seems so much more relaxing and, dare I say it,natural. I should also tell you that, due to poor eyesight, I sit about 3-4 feet away from my monitor and about 2 feet away from my desk Hence the typing in the lap thing.
At the moment, I use a plain Logitech K350. Although I hate the keyboard itself, the integrated rest is soooo satisfying that every negative pales next to the fact that I can type comfortably on this thing. Since it sits at a negative angle (falling away from me), my lower arms and hands are in a straight line. I'm so used to this technique that when I tried a keyboard (keeb?) without a rest on my lap, I couldn't stand it. I guess that I'm too old to change.
After extensive research, I can't find any case or ready built mechanical keyboard with :
1. Full size or TKL
2. Wireless
3. Integrated rest
Is there such a thing?
nevin:
- full size is a rarity in custom keyboards. (check "gaming" brands for off the shelf options)
- wireless (BT) is rather new to custom keyboards. most are running ZMK https://github.com/zmkfirmware/zmk (a wireless fork of the QMK firmware)
- Integrated rest, there have been a few done with an integrated rest in custom keyboards.
+ in off the shelf boards, gaming boards would probably be my 1st suggestion to find all your requirements
+ another that comes to mind is the microsoft natural keyboard (old version was wired, not sure about newer version)
+ i'd be amiss if i didn't mention kinesis. the advantage is what spurred projects like the ergodox and similar. it also looks like they have a split wireless version named the advantage 360 that should be releasing soon.
https://kinesis-ergo.com/
https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360/
+ look into a Lapboard or Lapdesk, some have built in rests and would expand your options for keyboards (without built-in rests)
nevin:
this IC was just posted today. interesting, tented 65% with a wrist rest case, expensive though, not wireless as far as i can tell.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=117831.new#new
samstar:
--- Quote from: nevin on Mon, 18 July 2022, 23:38:35 ---- full size is a rarity in custom keyboards. (check "gaming" brands for off the shelf options)
- wireless (BT) is rather new to custom keyboards. most are running ZMK https://github.com/zmkfirmware/zmk (a wireless fork of the QMK firmware)
- Integrated rest, there have been a few done with an integrated rest in custom keyboards.
+ in off the shelf boards, gaming boards would probably be my 1st suggestion to find all your requirements
+ another that comes to mind is the microsoft natural keyboard (old version was wired, not sure about newer version)
+ i'd be amiss if i didn't mention kinesis. the advantage is what spurred projects like the ergodox and similar. it also looks like they have a split wireless version named the advantage 360 that should be releasing soon.
https://kinesis-ergo.com/
https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360/
+ look into a Lapboard or Lapdesk, some have built in rests and would expand your options for keyboards (without built-in rests)
--- End quote ---
I've looked at so many 'gaming' boards but there's only 1 full size that I've come across (GMMK) that is remotely half decent but it neither has a rest nor is it wireless.
I should have also stated that I'm not a fan of bluetooth keebs. Wireless, to me, means 2.4 / 5 Ghz.
The kinesis looks like an option but I don't it would sit in the lap properly (being split). I actually have lapdesk for my wife's laptop but, again, it's too bulky for the lap.
Now - a lapboard for a full size of some sort (without a mousepad) may very well be a solution. I only really need a thin metal/plastic base with a rest at the front - like this __l
I will have to research this option more. Thanks for the heads up.
--- Quote from: nevin on Tue, 19 July 2022, 08:14:30 ---this IC was just posted today. interesting, tented 65% with a wrist rest case, expensive though, not wireless as far as i can tell.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=117831.new#new
--- End quote ---
That's quite a chunky keyboard. But I like to look of the rest.
nevin:
agree with you 2.4/5 vs. BT, just for the reliability factor.
i know there are BT adapters to use any keyboard over bluetooth, i wouldn't be surprised is there wasn't a traditional wireless adapter that would do the same with the logitech type receivers.
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