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Title: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: iss on Sat, 23 April 2016, 11:28:24
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Round 0: Closed
(Round 1 will occur in mid to late July)

Setup guide:
1) If necessary, download and install Python 2.7 (https://www.python.org/downloads/).
2) Download and unzip the source code (https://github.com/edfan/EasyAVR).
3) Open EasyAVR using run.bat.
4) Select "62/60 (Round 0)" when creating a new layout.
5) RGB configuration and instructions are available at View -> RGB Configuration.
6) When ready, press the reset button on the bottom of the keyboard, then navigate to File -> Build and Reprogram and follow the prompts.

Features:


Pricing:

Link to IC thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81093.0)
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60 Round 0: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% with arrow keys
Post by: Liam on Sat, 23 April 2016, 12:37:58
Do I need to fill in the form again?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60 Round 0: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% with arrow keys
Post by: iss on Sat, 23 April 2016, 12:43:58
Do I need to fill in the form again?

Nope- you're already on there, as is anyone who signed up in the IC thread.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60 Round 0: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% with arrow keys
Post by: renzpwns on Sat, 23 April 2016, 13:15:30
I'm in. RNGesus pls.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60 Round 0: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% with arrow keys
Post by: laughatpain on Sat, 23 April 2016, 13:39:55
When will the drawing take place?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60 Round 0: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% with arrow keys
Post by: iss on Sat, 23 April 2016, 13:45:49
When will the drawing take place?

On Monday- winners will be PM'd shortly afterwards.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60 Round 0: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% with arrow keys
Post by: GaM3 Is H4rD on Sat, 23 April 2016, 14:43:16
Awesome board Bro!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60 Round 0: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% with arrow keys
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 23 April 2016, 16:13:22
Filled the form.


Let's see who gets lucky  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60 Round 0: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% with arrow keys
Post by: Liar on Sat, 23 April 2016, 17:16:17
Hype
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60 Round 0: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% with arrow keys
Post by: audax989 on Sat, 23 April 2016, 17:45:33
Please RNGesus!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60 Round 0: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% with arrow keys
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sun, 24 April 2016, 17:42:28
Filled the form!

Was considering wether I should wait for round 1 updates to be made, but I'm super excited for this project and definitely wanted to support it!

Awesome project iss, glad to be a part of this :D
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60 Round 0: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% with arrow keys
Post by: empnero on Sun, 24 April 2016, 17:54:46
Filled the form!

Was considering wether I should wait for round 1 updates to be made, but I'm super excited for this project and definitely wanted to support it!

Awesome project iss, glad to be a part of this :D

Mirrored my own thoughts exactly
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60 Round 0: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% with arrow keys
Post by: iss on Mon, 25 April 2016, 06:22:39
Round 0 is now closed; winners will be PM'd later today.

In total, an astounding 338 users signed up. Thank you all so much for supporting this project- we'll do our best to meet the demand. I'll be updating this thread with more details in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60 Round 0: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% with arrow keys
Post by: audax989 on Mon, 25 April 2016, 06:27:28
Round 0 is now closed; winners will be PM'd later today.

In total, an astounding 338 users signed up. Thank you all so much for supporting this project- we'll do our best to meet the demand. I'll be updating this thread with more details in the coming weeks.

That is a lot of entries! The Hype is real! I'll be stalking my inbox.......   :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: CJD_Anthony on Mon, 25 April 2016, 06:35:50
there goes my hope of joining rofl 12 slots for 300+ participants :')
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60 Round 0: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% with arrow keys
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 25 April 2016, 06:47:02
In total, an astounding 338 users signed up

Well, I guess that's RiP my hopes for round 0 then.
It also seems like you have to offer more than 50 boards for round 1, or you make a round 0.5 first that covers the ones that signed up for round 0 but didn't get in.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: GiveCandyy on Mon, 25 April 2016, 06:56:53
guess I will be waiting in jealousy for round 1 after seeing the amount of participants.  :(

Also the winners are anonymous?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60 Round 0: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% with arrow keys
Post by: ideus on Mon, 25 April 2016, 12:58:54
Round 0 is now closed; winners will be PM'd later today.

In total, an astounding 338 users signed up. Thank you all so much for supporting this project- we'll do our best to meet the demand. I'll be updating this thread with more details in the coming weeks.

Holy, well, congratulations, it seems many of us wanted arrows in their sixties after all, and your design makes it even harder to ignore the advantages of dedicated arrows.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: JDragon on Mon, 25 April 2016, 13:01:48
Good luck to everyone that entered, but not as much as me ;)
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: Liam on Mon, 25 April 2016, 13:09:54
Please please please please :'( Notice me senpai  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: Icon62 on Mon, 25 April 2016, 16:14:02
O man GL guys! I'm praying to the RNG gods!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: iss on Mon, 25 April 2016, 16:43:22
Winners have been PM'd- congrats to everyone who made it in.

If you didn't, rest assured that you'll likely get a board soon- Round 1 will be held next month. Stay tuned here for updates as they come in. Thanks again to everyone that signed up- it's really quite amazing to see the level of excitement this has generated, and we'll do our best to make sure things go well.
Title: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: GiveCandyy on Mon, 25 April 2016, 16:45:54
Rngesus not for me :( waiting for round 1 now
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: Liam on Mon, 25 April 2016, 16:49:22
Congrat who won ;D Not me  :'(
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: Prankk on Mon, 25 April 2016, 18:05:31
PRAISE RNGESUS!!!! Received that sweet sweet pm. Sorry for those who missed out, but I am too excited!!!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 25 April 2016, 18:32:02
Winners have been PM'd- congrats to everyone who made it in.

If you didn't, rest assured that you'll likely get a board soon- Round 1 will be held next month. Stay tuned here for updates as they come in. Thanks again to everyone that signed up- it's really quite amazing to see the level of excitement this has generated, and we'll do our best to make sure things go well.

Should a new thread have to be open for the round one? It would be a good idea to check it in advance to have everything running fine,  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: audax989 on Mon, 25 April 2016, 19:07:53
No PM this time. Still stoked for round one!!! Congrats everyone!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: njbair on Mon, 25 April 2016, 19:16:24
Super excited for the lucky R0 participants here. In my case I had to pass due to lack of funds. But I'll be looking at R1 pretty closely.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 25 April 2016, 19:19:26
Super excited for the lucky R0 participants here. In my case I had to pass due to lack of funds. But I'll be looking at R1 pretty closely.

I passed because I need support for that ugly ISO enter key, R1 will have it!  :p
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 26 April 2016, 01:19:47
Ah well, I never had luck in raffles. The shipping date would have been too good of a fit with my birthday being just a few days before.
Now I can only hope that round 1 goes smoothly (maybe a bit faster than expected) so the boards could possibly arrive before my US trip in late june.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: Stabilized on Tue, 26 April 2016, 10:05:40
Is there any plan for a normal (without arrow keys, standard bottom row, split right shift and backspace) to be available at some point down the line?
I would definitely be interested if there was!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 26 April 2016, 11:00:28
Is there any plan for a normal (without arrow keys, standard bottom row, split right shift and backspace) to be available at some point down the line?
I would definitely be interested if there was!

You should know it already, but there are some PCBs already available that support that layout, GON Nerd60, Winkeyless, GH-60 and its cousins like the Satan, you may use them plate-less so you can change stems and springs at will, or get a plate with switch removal notches, so basically you can get the same functionality. In the other hand, the 62/60 main feature, besides being swappable is its layout, I can see where you come from though, maybe the OP has something in the oven like that; however, if it would be it had to come first I think, let's see.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 26 April 2016, 14:18:03
No Luck on R0 for me unfortunately, but lookin forward to round 1!
Gratz to all the Happy winners out there! Glad to see so much support for this project!  :thumb:

Hope round 1 will already have an option for non-swappable/soldered switches  :-* :-*
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: nugglets on Tue, 26 April 2016, 17:19:08
Is there any plan for a normal (without arrow keys, standard bottom row, split right shift and backspace) to be available at some point down the line?
I would definitely be interested if there was!

You should know it already, but there are some PCBs already available that support that layout, GON Nerd60, Winkeyless, GH-60 and its cousins like the Satan, you may use them plate-less so you can change stems and springs at will, or get a plate with switch removal notches, so basically you can get the same functionality. In the other hand, the 62/60 main feature, besides being swappable is its layout, I can see where you come from though, maybe the OP has something in the oven like that; however, if it would be it had to come first I think, let's see.

None of which are fully RGB, which is definitely one of the main features of this board. The title and the OP mention that before anything else, so I think the creator is aware of this being a big draw to the board.

Going to be keeping a close eye on the development of this. Really great work.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 26 April 2016, 17:51:56
Is there any plan for a normal (without arrow keys, standard bottom row, split right shift and backspace) to be available at some point down the line?
I would definitely be interested if there was!

You should know it already, but there are some PCBs already available that support that layout, GON Nerd60, Winkeyless, GH-60 and its cousins like the Satan, you may use them plate-less so you can change stems and springs at will, or get a plate with switch removal notches, so basically you can get the same functionality. In the other hand, the 62/60 main feature, besides being swappable is its layout, I can see where you come from though, maybe the OP has something in the oven like that; however, if it would be it had to come first I think, let's see.

None of which are fully RGB, which is definitely one of the main features of this board. The title and the OP mention that before anything else, so I think the creator is aware of this being a big draw to the board.

Going to be keeping a close eye on the development of this. Really great work.


You're right, it happens that I am not really into LEDs on my board, but I really like the layout and overall design of this awesome board.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: Stabilized on Wed, 27 April 2016, 03:50:32
Is there any plan for a normal (without arrow keys, standard bottom row, split right shift and backspace) to be available at some point down the line?
I would definitely be interested if there was!

You should know it already, but there are some PCBs already available that support that layout, GON Nerd60, Winkeyless, GH-60 and its cousins like the Satan, you may use them plate-less so you can change stems and springs at will, or get a plate with switch removal notches, so basically you can get the same functionality. In the other hand, the 62/60 main feature, besides being swappable is its layout, I can see where you come from though, maybe the OP has something in the oven like that; however, if it would be it had to come first I think, let's see.

I am well aware of those, I have a NerD60 and numerous WKL b.faces.
I personally really like the case design, along with hotswap feature and the under switch RGB LEDs. TBH, it is not a matter of functionality, but more a desire for another cool 60% as it's my favourite form factor.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: ideus on Wed, 27 April 2016, 07:16:56
Is there any plan for a normal (without arrow keys, standard bottom row, split right shift and backspace) to be available at some point down the line?
I would definitely be interested if there was!

You should know it already, but there are some PCBs already available that support that layout, GON Nerd60, Winkeyless, GH-60 and its cousins like the Satan, you may use them plate-less so you can change stems and springs at will, or get a plate with switch removal notches, so basically you can get the same functionality. In the other hand, the 62/60 main feature, besides being swappable is its layout, I can see where you come from though, maybe the OP has something in the oven like that; however, if it would be it had to come first I think, let's see.

I am well aware of those, I have a NerD60 and numerous WKL b.faces.
I personally really like the case design, along with hotswap feature and the under switch RGB LEDs. TBH, it is not a matter of functionality, but more a desire for another cool 60% as it's my favourite form factor.

You should give the alternative layout a try; in my case, being a sixty user for years now, I think I really do not need dedicated arrows at all, but this moves me to reconsider having them available, I notice that while I am at my laptop keyboard I always use the dedicated arrows, even though I have the space-FN arrows available as I do on my sixty, I have found them just a bit more convenient for some activities, and I use them along with space-FN, therefore, having dedicated arrows available in my sixty will be the best of both worlds. In the aesthetics department, I always like the arrows keys, and in this layout they look just too good to let it pass.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: Stabilized on Thu, 28 April 2016, 07:10:50

You should give the alternative layout a try; in my case, being a sixty user for years now, I think I really do not need dedicated arrows at all, but this moves me to reconsider having them available, I notice that while I am at my laptop keyboard I always use the dedicated arrows, even though I have the space-FN arrows available as I do on my sixty, I have found them just a bit more convenient for some activities, and I use them along with space-FN, therefore, having dedicated arrows available in my sixty will be the best of both worlds. In the aesthetics department, I always like the arrows keys, and in this layout they look just too good to let it pass.

I agree with you that it looks pretty cool, maybe I should give a try.
Would still prefer the standard layout though as I tend to rotate my keyboards and want to be able to swap over without having to adjust.
I have to admit that dedicated arrow keys would be pretty cool, I am pretty worried about the right shift being too far right though. I am thinking that I am going to be hitting the up arrow accidentally more often then not.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: vito687 on Thu, 28 April 2016, 09:24:40
edit: didnt realize it was a raffle... in that case I want in the next round :D
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: ideus on Thu, 28 April 2016, 09:46:18

You should give the alternative layout a try; in my case, being a sixty user for years now, I think I really do not need dedicated arrows at all, but this moves me to reconsider having them available, I notice that while I am at my laptop keyboard I always use the dedicated arrows, even though I have the space-FN arrows available as I do on my sixty, I have found them just a bit more convenient for some activities, and I use them along with space-FN, therefore, having dedicated arrows available in my sixty will be the best of both worlds. In the aesthetics department, I always like the arrows keys, and in this layout they look just too good to let it pass.

I agree with you that it looks pretty cool, maybe I should give a try.
Would still prefer the standard layout though as I tend to rotate my keyboards and want to be able to swap over without having to adjust.
I have to admit that dedicated arrow keys would be pretty cool, I am pretty worried about the right shift being too far right though. I am thinking that I am going to be hitting the up arrow accidentally more often then not.

Someone asked to have the choice to put the arrow to the right to have the shift key next to the /? key, I really do not like that but I can live with it as the only effect for us keeping the proposed layout is to have those switches inverted, so it is not a big deal; then, you can try both to see what layout fits you better. I still think that asking for a completely different layout defeats the philosophy of the designer, but who knows, maybe he wants to make a standard 60 with full-RGB and swappable, I really like this layout and even when I should be switching over my current sixties, I really do not see that as a huge problem myself, I am already doing that with my Thinkpad when I am at meetings or teaching, so it is not a big deal, I can buy two samples and have everything covered, the office and home,  :p
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: abjr on Fri, 29 April 2016, 14:48:23
[I have to admit that dedicated arrow keys would be pretty cool, I am pretty worried about the right shift being too far right though. I am thinking that I am going to be hitting the up arrow accidentally more often then not.

This is my concern too as I always use the Right Shift unless my hand is on the mouse, then I use the left shift. I wonder if using different profile caps might help. i.e. DCS for everything, but DSA for the arrows (or even just the up arrow so you can feel that you are on the wrong key)?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: iss on Fri, 29 April 2016, 16:08:52
Round 0 update (4/29):

Case design has been finalized and is ready for production! An extra reinforcing plate was added- Gateron switches are now super-stable. Invoices will be sent out next week, and the first boards should be shipped out around May 9th or so!

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Should a new thread have to be open for the round one? It would be a good idea to check it in advance to have everything running fine,  :thumb:

I'll check with an admin closer to that time- shouldn't be a big problem either way. :thumb:

Is there any plan for a normal (without arrow keys, standard bottom row, split right shift and backspace) to be available at some point down the line?
I would definitely be interested if there was!

I'm open to doing other layouts in the future and will post a thread for interest once Round 1 finishes up in a couple months. This board will only be available in the Round 0 layouts (+ ISO), however- there isn't any way to preserve arrow keys and symmetry other than what's offered.

By the way, earlier plans for the "traditional" HHKB right shift have been cancelled- discovered a few issues with implementing it.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: ideus on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:10:46
Thank you for the update and congratulations to those that get into the round 0, I'll look forward for round 1.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: PriusProblems on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:14:01
How much would shipping to the UK be? (Already thinking about Round 1 and it's ISO goodness).
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: derpingit on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:15:06
is there a way to sing up for round 1 pre-order? this board is my dream layout.. don't know how i missed it.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: vito687 on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:33:20
is there a way to sing up for round 1 pre-order? this board is my dream layout.. don't know how i missed it.
Agreed and welcome to the club! :)
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: iss on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:37:27
Round 1 signups will be posted once Round 0 is mostly done shipping- will be mid-to-late May.

International shipping was set at $22.50 for Round 0- obviously could change, but should be in that ballpark.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: derpingit on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:39:54
Round 1 signups will be posted once Round 0 is mostly done shipping- will be mid-to-late May.

International shipping was set at $22.50 for Round 0- obviously could change, but should be in that ballpark.

Thanks .. I actually saw that on your main post, but was concerned you kept this GB to only a few lucky.. Please please (2x) offer more.. I hate the raffle system to be able to purchase :/
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: ideus on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:42:00
How much would shipping to the UK be? (Already thinking about Round 1 and it's ISO goodness).

ANSO: ANSI US International layout with 2.25u left shift and ISO Enter.
ANSO+: Add arrows to the mix!

 :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:51:46
Exciting news! I wasn't lucky enough to get one for Round0, but I eagerly await my chance to get one in Round1!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: GiveCandyy on Sat, 30 April 2016, 05:01:14
Round 1 signups will be posted once Round 0 is mostly done shipping- will be mid-to-late May.

International shipping was set at $22.50 for Round 0- obviously could change, but should be in that ballpark.

mid to late may? my birthday is on May 25th aw yiss. :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: audax989 on Sat, 30 April 2016, 08:01:44
End of may cant come any faster! Any projected number of pcbs for round 1? I just want to know my odds  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: TeeBaginDragon on Sat, 30 April 2016, 23:36:50
For the hot swapping, do the switches need to be PBC mount or plate mount?  Sorry if this is an obvious question, I'm new around here...  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: ideus on Sun, 01 May 2016, 04:47:39
For the hot swapping, do the switches need to be PBC mount or plate mount?  Sorry if this is an obvious question, I'm new around here...  ;D

Both types work, but it was explained that PCB mount type, those with two pins, fits more securely.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: TeeBaginDragon on Sun, 01 May 2016, 20:01:41
For the hot swapping, do the switches need to be PBC mount or plate mount?  Sorry if this is an obvious question, I'm new around here...  ;D

Both types work, but it was explained that PCB mount type, those with two pins, fits more securely.

Thanks ideus for the clarification!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: iss on Wed, 04 May 2016, 17:57:08
5/4 update:

Invoices have been sent out! Check your PayPal accounts and let me know if you see anything wrong :thumb:

Status check:
PCBs: All parts on hand, 7/12 soldered
Cases: Acrylic on hand, laser cutting scheduled for this week/early next week
Hardware (screws, etc.): Ordered, arriving late this week/early next week (some stock on hand)
Switches: Ordered, arriving next week
Stabilizers: Ordered, arriving this week

At the current pace, Round 1 will likely start on May 20th and run for 4-7 days. More details will come soon!

(note to reviewers: Your boards will be shipping on Friday! pushed back to Tuesday due to hardware issues)
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: Pemdas on Wed, 04 May 2016, 18:28:47
Invoice received and paid :thumb:

Thanks a bunch can't wait to try out the board!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: Invoiced]
Post by: derpingit on Wed, 04 May 2016, 18:29:39
May 20! Yay


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: audax989 on Wed, 04 May 2016, 18:34:51
5/4 update:

Invoices have been sent out! Check your PayPal accounts and let me know if you see anything wrong :thumb:

Status check:
PCBs: All parts on hand, 7/12 soldered
Cases: Acrylic on hand, laser cutting scheduled for this week/early next week
Hardware (screws, etc.): Ordered, arriving late this week/early next week (some stock on hand)
Switches: Ordered, arriving next week
Stabilizers: Ordered, arriving this week

At the current pace, Round 1 will likely start on May 20th and run for 4-7 days. More details will come soon!

(note to reviewers: Your boards will be shipping on Friday!)

Round 1 is right on my birthday!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 04 May 2016, 18:43:31
5/4 update:

Invoices have been sent out! Check your PayPal accounts and let me know if you see anything wrong :thumb:

Status check:
PCBs: All parts on hand, 7/12 soldered
Cases: Acrylic on hand, laser cutting scheduled for this week/early next week
Hardware (screws, etc.): Ordered, arriving late this week/early next week (some stock on hand)
Switches: Ordered, arriving next week
Stabilizers: Ordered, arriving this week

At the current pace, Round 1 will likely start on May 20th and run for 4-7 days. More details will come soon!

(note to reviewers: Your boards will be shipping on Friday!)

How are the chances of recieving the round 1 boards in EU before 20th of June? I'll not be home after that for about 2 weeks.
Title: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: Invoiced]
Post by: derpingit on Wed, 04 May 2016, 18:57:23
Sorry :/
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: ideus on Wed, 04 May 2016, 23:05:38
5/4 update:

Invoices have been sent out! Check your PayPal accounts and let me know if you see anything wrong :thumb:

Status check:
PCBs: All parts on hand, 7/12 soldered
Cases: Acrylic on hand, laser cutting scheduled for this week/early next week
Hardware (screws, etc.): Ordered, arriving late this week/early next week (some stock on hand)
Switches: Ordered, arriving next week
Stabilizers: Ordered, arriving this week

At the current pace, Round 1 will likely start on May 20th and run for 4-7 days. More details will come soon!

(note to reviewers: Your boards will be shipping on Friday!)

What a distinction, for those that were chosen to be reviewers. Would reviews be published for round zero, before round one, or they would be for round one?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: breckstar on Fri, 06 May 2016, 13:01:53
5/4 update:

Invoices have been sent out! Check your PayPal accounts and let me know if you see anything wrong :thumb:

Status check:
PCBs: All parts on hand, 7/12 soldered
Cases: Acrylic on hand, laser cutting scheduled for this week/early next week
Hardware (screws, etc.): Ordered, arriving late this week/early next week (some stock on hand)
Switches: Ordered, arriving next week
Stabilizers: Ordered, arriving this week

At the current pace, Round 1 will likely start on May 20th and run for 4-7 days. More details will come soon!

(note to reviewers: Your boards will be shipping on Friday! pushed back to Tuesday due to hardware issues)

May those with May birthdays get a special invite into R1? Would be a sweet birthday present to myself :)
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: LunarisDream on Fri, 06 May 2016, 13:58:57
5/4 update:

Invoices have been sent out! Check your PayPal accounts and let me know if you see anything wrong :thumb:

Status check:
PCBs: All parts on hand, 7/12 soldered
Cases: Acrylic on hand, laser cutting scheduled for this week/early next week
Hardware (screws, etc.): Ordered, arriving late this week/early next week (some stock on hand)
Switches: Ordered, arriving next week
Stabilizers: Ordered, arriving this week

At the current pace, Round 1 will likely start on May 20th and run for 4-7 days. More details will come soon!

(note to reviewers: Your boards will be shipping on Friday! pushed back to Tuesday due to hardware issues)

livingspeedbump please send it to me for further review when you're done  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0 Closed]
Post by: Liam on Fri, 06 May 2016, 23:29:27
5/4 update:

Invoices have been sent out! Check your PayPal accounts and let me know if you see anything wrong :thumb:

Status check:
PCBs: All parts on hand, 7/12 soldered
Cases: Acrylic on hand, laser cutting scheduled for this week/early next week
Hardware (screws, etc.): Ordered, arriving late this week/early next week (some stock on hand)
Switches: Ordered, arriving next week
Stabilizers: Ordered, arriving this week

At the current pace, Round 1 will likely start on May 20th and run for 4-7 days. More details will come soon!

(note to reviewers: Your boards will be shipping on Friday! pushed back to Tuesday due to hardware issues)

May those with May birthdays get a special invite into R1? Would be a sweet birthday present to myself :)
May 20 is my gf birthday too :p Maybe I'll try to get one for her :D
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: Invoiced]
Post by: y2bd on Fri, 06 May 2016, 23:53:16
Even though my profile, drivers license, and birth certificate all say otherwise, I also was born on May 20th! ;D ;D
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: Invoiced]
Post by: limitz on Sat, 07 May 2016, 00:00:02
What socket are you using for the switch hole inserts? Is it the holtite?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: Invoiced]
Post by: Vadurr on Sat, 07 May 2016, 05:24:09
Can't wait for R1! I'll finally be able to try out my zealios :p
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: Invoiced]
Post by: gadzkun on Sun, 08 May 2016, 02:39:49
will you produce the PCB without hot swapable in the near future. (i really like soldering a keyboard :rolleyes:)

i really love the layout of this board.
60% with arrow keys. :-*

oh yeah i cant wait for next round ^-^
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: Invoiced]
Post by: Liam on Sun, 08 May 2016, 12:33:19
will you produce the PCB without hot swapable in the near future. (i really like soldering a keyboard :rolleyes:)

i really love the layout of this board.
60% with arrow keys. :-*

oh yeah i cant wait for next round ^-^
He said in the IC thread that you can choose hot-swappable or not :D
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: Invoiced]
Post by: iss on Mon, 09 May 2016, 19:32:13
5/9 update:

Things are progressing well. Boards have been delayed a couple days due to my standoffs being stuck in shipping, but on the bright side firmware is pretty much ready to go (https://github.com/dhowland/EasyAVR/pull/5)!

Status check:
PCBs: All parts on hand, 7/12 soldered
Cases: Acrylic on hand, laser cutting finished tomorrow
Hardware (screws, etc.): Shipped, arriving Wednesday
Switches: Shipped, arriving this week
Stabilizers: On hand
Firmware: Done, waiting for addition to main EasyAVR branch

-----

By the way, the first production board is done! This board belongs to artisan RoastPotatoes.

(https://i.imgur.com/GfJGiI1r.png)

If you look carefully, there's been many improvements made since the initial cases. These include:

- Improvements to the acrylic feet for stability
- Middle spacer is now three parts: a black bottom spacer, a clear middle spacer aligned with the PCB for nice LED effects, and a black top spacer/reinforcing plate.
- Top plate has been tightened for switch retention.
- Small rubber bumpons are now affixed to the feet and bottom of the case for stability.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 09 May 2016, 20:49:21
Awesome.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: Liam on Mon, 09 May 2016, 21:07:54
Can't wait for round 1.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: renzpwns on Tue, 10 May 2016, 05:36:12
Damn that looks so good with the SMD lighting.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 10 May 2016, 06:57:40
You make me want one right now.
Are the adjustments for Round 1 already finalized?

Also, you said that Round 1 will start around mid-late May.
How are the chances of Round 1 boards (with round 0 signup) arriving in EU before 24th of June (in case of customs-problems even earlier as they are lazy)? I'm in the US for 2 weeks after that, so my grandparents would be accepting the parcel, which would be no problem, but if customs acts up and tells me I have to go get it from them I'll have a big problem as they only hold parcels for max. 2 weeks (and charge for the time they hold it). After that period they are either sent back or shredded :eek:. I hate customs.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: iss on Tue, 10 May 2016, 11:20:30
You make me want one right now.
Are the adjustments for Round 1 already finalized?

Also, you said that Round 1 will start around mid-late May.
How are the chances of Round 1 boards (with round 0 signup) arriving in EU before 24th of June (in case of customs-problems even earlier as they are lazy)? I'm in the US for 2 weeks after that, so my grandparents would be accepting the parcel, which would be no problem, but if customs acts up and tells me I have to go get it from them I'll have a big problem as they only hold parcels for max. 2 weeks (and charge for the time they hold it). After that period they are either sent back or shredded :eek:. I hate customs.

Round 1 is not finalized yet- working hard on getting 60% case compatibility, which would allow me to greatly increase production volume.

I don't know if boards will arrive before June 24th, but I can delay your shipment until after your trip if you'd like- just mention it on the Round 1 order form.

will you produce the PCB without hot swapable in the near future. (i really like soldering a keyboard :rolleyes:)

i really love the layout of this board.
60% with arrow keys. :-*

oh yeah i cant wait for next round ^-^

If 60% case compatibility works, yes. If not, we'll see.

End of may cant come any faster! Any projected number of pcbs for round 1? I just want to know my odds  :eek:

All depends on if I can get the board to work with existing 60% cases. My current acrylic sandwich case is nice and cost-effective, but it's very time-consuming to produce and assemble, which is a pain when I'm working full-time.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 10 May 2016, 11:37:50
All depends on if I can get the board to work with existing 60% cases. My current acrylic sandwich case is nice and cost-effective, but it's very time-consuming to produce and assemble, which is a pain when I'm working full-time.

Which case do you plan on using in round 1 when you get the standard 60% support figured out? I really like the current one.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 10 May 2016, 11:39:17
All depends on if I can get the board to work with existing 60% cases. My current acrylic sandwich case is nice and cost-effective, but it's very time-consuming to produce and assemble, which is a pain when I'm working full-time.

The PCB may fit the stand off of an standard 60% case (Poker compatible) but what about the plate?, there is no much sense to have a PCB with empty corners with no plate and, as far as I know, there is no compatible plate besides yours. Are you going to design a 60% compatible plate as well? What about the room required under the PCB for the dip sockets pins?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 10 May 2016, 13:49:43
will you produce the PCB without hot swapable in the near future. (i really like soldering a keyboard :rolleyes:)

i really love the layout of this board.
60% with arrow keys. :-*

oh yeah i cant wait for next round ^-^

If 60% case compatibility works, yes. If not, we'll see.

i mean, i want to join in the next round of course with a complete kit.
but if i can i want a normal PCB, not a hot swapable.
i want it as a gift for my lil-sister, shes going live in univ dorm so its not safe to have keyboard with hot swappable ones i think.
im scared if the switch and keycaps detach accidentally and she lost it :rolleyes:

but if its can fit common 60% case thats more amazing :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: rampantandroid on Fri, 13 May 2016, 15:59:46
i mean, i want to join in the next round of course with a complete kit.
but if i can i want a normal PCB, not a hot swapable.
i want it as a gift for my lil-sister, shes going live in univ dorm so its not safe to have keyboard with hot swappable ones i think.
im scared if the switch and keycaps detach accidentally and she lost it ::)

but if its can fit common 60% case thats more amazing :thumb:


Depending what the material that's being used for the "socket" is, you might still be able to solder it. Looks like brass maybe? If so, it needs more energy to solder than copper I think, so pre-heat the brass before touching the switch lead to avoid melting anything.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 13 May 2016, 16:08:56
Depending what the material that's being used for the "socket" is, you might still be able to solder it. Looks like brass maybe? If so, it needs more energy to solder than copper I think, so pre-heat the brass before touching the switch lead to avoid melting anything.

It would be a pain in the butt to get it desoldered with the retainers in though, maybe they can be drilled out?
I'd also try tinning the socket before inserting the switch, that way it is already bonded and you don't need excessive heat.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: rampantandroid on Fri, 13 May 2016, 17:51:33
Depending what the material that's being used for the "socket" is, you might still be able to solder it. Looks like brass maybe? If so, it needs more energy to solder than copper I think, so pre-heat the brass before touching the switch lead to avoid melting anything.

It would be a pain in the butt to get it desoldered with the retainers in though, maybe they can be drilled out?
I'd also try tinning the socket before inserting the switch, that way it is already bonded and you don't need excessive heat.


If there's plating on the hole beyond the insert, then you risk damaging it. Desoldering should be fine - the solder's melting point won't be much higher than normal (use lead solder for a bit more freedom.) The main issue will be pushing the switch free - not ideal, but possible.


Main thing I see with this design is the insert has no springy-ness to it. It looks to retain the switch simply by having the hole small enough to have friction against the pins. What happens if there's too much variance within Cherry/Kailh/gateron switches? You may have switches that won't make a solid connection? I'd also like to have someone (maybe Zeal?) comment on what happens when you push the pins of the switch INTO the switch body? Do you risk damage?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 13 May 2016, 18:23:04
Main thing I see with this design is the insert has no springy-ness to it. It looks to retain the switch simply by having the hole small enough to have friction against the pins. What happens if there's too much variance within Cherry/Kailh/gateron switches? You may have switches that won't make a solid connection? I'd also like to have someone (maybe Zeal?) comment on what happens when you push the pins of the switch INTO the switch body? Do you risk damage?

I stole this (http://i.imgur.com/7Ik0ESc.jpg) picture from the IC Thread, the inserts are supposed to look similar to this one. There are already PCB's that support hotswapping, if it would be damaging switches left and right I assume this board would not support it.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: ideus on Sun, 15 May 2016, 14:22:18
Any news on Round 1?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: iss on Sun, 15 May 2016, 15:26:46
Round 1 will be delayed for a variety of reasons- I've had an insanely hectic week and have another coming up. First wave of Round 0 shipments should go out Tuesday- stay tuned for another update soon.

All depends on if I can get the board to work with existing 60% cases. My current acrylic sandwich case is nice and cost-effective, but it's very time-consuming to produce and assemble, which is a pain when I'm working full-time.

The PCB may fit the stand off of an standard 60% case (Poker compatible) but what about the plate?, there is no much sense to have a PCB with empty corners with no plate and, as far as I know, there is no compatible plate besides yours. Are you going to design a 60% compatible plate as well? What about the room required under the PCB for the dip sockets pins?

Yes, if it happens, a compatible plate will be included. Cases need 1/8" or higher standoffs- the ones that will be offered have that.

Depending what the material that's being used for the "socket" is, you might still be able to solder it. Looks like brass maybe? If so, it needs more energy to solder than copper I think, so pre-heat the brass before touching the switch lead to avoid melting anything.

It would be a pain in the butt to get it desoldered with the retainers in though, maybe they can be drilled out?
I'd also try tinning the socket before inserting the switch, that way it is already bonded and you don't need excessive heat.

Desoldering the sockets is terrible- don't try it.

All depends on if I can get the board to work with existing 60% cases. My current acrylic sandwich case is nice and cost-effective, but it's very time-consuming to produce and assemble, which is a pain when I'm working full-time.

Which case do you plan on using in round 1 when you get the standard 60% support figured out? I really like the current one.

Likely to be offered: an aluminum case (Lambo is the current candidate), a quality plastic/acrylic case (still considering), my acrylic sandwich case (will be fairly limited).

If there's plating on the hole beyond the insert, then you risk damaging it. Desoldering should be fine - the solder's melting point won't be much higher than normal (use lead solder for a bit more freedom.) The main issue will be pushing the switch free - not ideal, but possible.


Main thing I see with this design is the insert has no springy-ness to it. It looks to retain the switch simply by having the hole small enough to have friction against the pins. What happens if there's too much variance within Cherry/Kailh/gateron switches? You may have switches that won't make a solid connection? I'd also like to have someone (maybe Zeal?) comment on what happens when you push the pins of the switch INTO the switch body? Do you risk damage?

Switches are held in via a combination of friction in the socket, the PCB pins, and the plate. It works well, but is fairly precise. Gateron PCB-mount switches are pretty much perfect, and I'm working on Zealios (I think there might be a slight variance). The sockets are long enough that the switch pins are not pushed into the body at all.

Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: ideus on Sun, 15 May 2016, 15:54:33
I have a Tex Acrylic case around, do you think it may fit your upcoming PCB featuring standard case support? Please provide detailed specs to check what available cases may fit it. It would be great to be able to purchase one PCB with dip sockets and a plate and use an on-hand sixty case, that will make this a very sweet deal. Also, please provide an alternative low weight case; because, I use my keyboard on the move frequently; but, a heavy aluminum case does not fit that use.

Edit: Tex Acrylic case has 3mm stand off, that is pretty close the 1/8 in, meaning that it may fit the upcoming round one, standard case compatible 62/60 plate and PCB. I cannot wait any longer to have one.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: Chewypost on Sun, 15 May 2016, 16:34:50
Round 1 will be delayed for a variety of reasons- I've had an insanely hectic week and have another coming up. First wave of Round 0 shipments should go out Tuesday- stay tuned for another update soon.

All depends on if I can get the board to work with existing 60% cases. My current acrylic sandwich case is nice and cost-effective, but it's very time-consuming to produce and assemble, which is a pain when I'm working full-time.

The PCB may fit the stand off of an standard 60% case (Poker compatible) but what about the plate?, there is no much sense to have a PCB with empty corners with no plate and, as far as I know, there is no compatible plate besides yours. Are you going to design a 60% compatible plate as well? What about the room required under the PCB for the dip sockets pins?

Yes, if it happens, a compatible plate will be included. Cases need 1/8" or higher standoffs- the ones that will be offered have that.

Depending what the material that's being used for the "socket" is, you might still be able to solder it. Looks like brass maybe? If so, it needs more energy to solder than copper I think, so pre-heat the brass before touching the switch lead to avoid melting anything.

It would be a pain in the butt to get it desoldered with the retainers in though, maybe they can be drilled out?
I'd also try tinning the socket before inserting the switch, that way it is already bonded and you don't need excessive heat.

Desoldering the sockets is terrible- don't try it.

All depends on if I can get the board to work with existing 60% cases. My current acrylic sandwich case is nice and cost-effective, but it's very time-consuming to produce and assemble, which is a pain when I'm working full-time.

Which case do you plan on using in round 1 when you get the standard 60% support figured out? I really like the current one.

Likely to be offered: an aluminum case (Lambo is the current candidate), a quality plastic/acrylic case (still considering), my acrylic sandwich case (will be fairly limited).

If there's plating on the hole beyond the insert, then you risk damaging it. Desoldering should be fine - the solder's melting point won't be much higher than normal (use lead solder for a bit more freedom.) The main issue will be pushing the switch free - not ideal, but possible.


Main thing I see with this design is the insert has no springy-ness to it. It looks to retain the switch simply by having the hole small enough to have friction against the pins. What happens if there's too much variance within Cherry/Kailh/gateron switches? You may have switches that won't make a solid connection? I'd also like to have someone (maybe Zeal?) comment on what happens when you push the pins of the switch INTO the switch body? Do you risk damage?

Switches are held in via a combination of friction in the socket, the PCB pins, and the plate. It works well, but is fairly precise. Gateron PCB-mount switches are pretty much perfect, and I'm working on Zealios (I think there might be a slight variance). The sockets are long enough that the switch pins are not pushed into the body at all.

Wait zealios have a slight variance? Oh I had no idea :/ I was hoping to try to put some zealios into it.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sun, 15 May 2016, 16:42:03
Wait zealios have a slight variance? Oh I had no idea :/ I was hoping to try to put some zealios into it.

I think he is refering to the PCB-Mount-Stems, which indeed are a little thicker than standard ones. You could probably just sand down the difference though (might be a little bit time consuming though).

On another note (OT), I see this pretty often here, why is basically everyone fulltext-quoting here on gh? It really messes up the readability and structure of threads and is usually frowned upon in other forums.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: Chewypost on Sun, 15 May 2016, 16:45:39
Wait zealios have a slight variance? Oh I had no idea :/ I was hoping to try to put some zealios into it.

I think he is refering to the PCB-Mount-Stems, which indeed are a little thicker than standard ones. You could probably just sand down the difference though (might be a little bit time consuming though).

On another note (OT), I see this pretty often here, why is basically everyone fulltext-quoting here on gh? It really messes up the readability and structure of threads and is usually frowned upon in other forums.

Ahh I see. Well then I'll soon find out when it comes and I'll test it out.

And about the quoting, I had no idea lol. But I can see where you're coming from.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: iss on Sun, 15 May 2016, 20:43:41
Wait zealios have a slight variance? Oh I had no idea :/ I was hoping to try to put some zealios into it.

They're really loose in the current design- not sure what's going on, I'm working with Zeal to figure it out. For now, I'd strongly recommend using Cherry/Gateron switches for Round 0. (You can probably get away with Zealios on alphas if you don't mind some wobble, but placing them on the top row especially is a problem.)

Shot of my current board (Gateron Greens, split backspace):
(http://i.imgur.com/iEIO7b6.png)
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: ideus on Sun, 15 May 2016, 21:14:11
I wonder if metalizing the contacts of the switches with a thin layer of solder may help to keep them more secure in the dip sockets.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: Saiph on Sun, 15 May 2016, 21:21:54


Ahh I see. Well then I'll soon find out when it comes and I'll test it out.

And about the quoting, I had no idea lol. But I can see where you're coming from.
Worst case scenario you can swap your zealios switch housing for gateron housing. A little costly and time consuming but it may be the only way to get zealios working for now.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: gadzkun on Sun, 15 May 2016, 22:06:59
I have a Tex Acrylic case around, do you think it may fit your upcoming PCB featuring standard case support? Please provide detailed specs to check what available cases may fit it. It would be great to be able to purchase one PCB with dip sockets and a plate and use an on-hand sixty case, that will make this a very sweet deal. Also, please provide an alternative low weight case; because, I use my keyboard on the move frequently; but, a heavy aluminum case does not fit that use.

Edit: Tex Acrylic case has 3mm stand off, that is pretty close the 1/8 in, meaning that it may fit the upcoming round one, standard case compatible 62/60 plate and PCB. I cannot wait any longer to have one.

+1, tex acrylic also easy to get and i prefer acrylic case more than alu, its good for my wallet ^-^ and really look good with RGB led
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: ideus on Sun, 15 May 2016, 22:44:37
I have a Tex Acrylic case around, do you think it may fit your upcoming PCB featuring standard case support? Please provide detailed specs to check what available cases may fit it. It would be great to be able to purchase one PCB with dip sockets and a plate and use an on-hand sixty case, that will make this a very sweet deal. Also, please provide an alternative low weight case; because, I use my keyboard on the move frequently; but, a heavy aluminum case does not fit that use.

Edit: Tex Acrylic case has 3mm stand off, that is pretty close the 1/8 in, meaning that it may fit the upcoming round one, standard case compatible 62/60 plate and PCB. I cannot wait any longer to have one.

+1, tex acrylic also easy to get and i prefer acrylic case more than alu, its good for my wallet ^-^ and really look good with RGB led

Yeah, it is less hard for the wallet, it is light and it looks cool with RGBs.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: Chewypost on Mon, 16 May 2016, 00:12:44


Ahh I see. Well then I'll soon find out when it comes and I'll test it out.

And about the quoting, I had no idea lol. But I can see where you're coming from.
Worst case scenario you can swap your zealios switch housing for gateron housing. A little costly and time consuming but it may be the only way to get zealios working for now.

Yeah I'll have to do some experimenting with the board. We'll have to see!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: gadzkun on Mon, 16 May 2016, 02:59:24
I have a Tex Acrylic case around, do you think it may fit your upcoming PCB featuring standard case support? Please provide detailed specs to check what available cases may fit it. It would be great to be able to purchase one PCB with dip sockets and a plate and use an on-hand sixty case, that will make this a very sweet deal. Also, please provide an alternative low weight case; because, I use my keyboard on the move frequently; but, a heavy aluminum case does not fit that use.

Edit: Tex Acrylic case has 3mm stand off, that is pretty close the 1/8 in, meaning that it may fit the upcoming round one, standard case compatible 62/60 plate and PCB. I cannot wait any longer to have one.

+1, tex acrylic also easy to get and i prefer acrylic case more than alu, its good for my wallet ^-^ and really look good with RGB led

Yeah, it is less hard for the wallet, it is light and it looks cool with RGBs.

iss 62 PCB + triviumtek lustro =  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
collab please :p
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 16 May 2016, 03:30:45
They're really loose in the current design- not sure what's going on, I'm working with Zeal to figure it out. For now, I'd strongly recommend using Cherry/Gateron switches for Round 0. (You can probably get away with Zealios on alphas if you don't mind some wobble, but placing them on the top row especially is a problem.)

I just did a bit of measuring. I used Zealios R2 62g and Gateron Browns from the current drop (Black lower housing), 5 each to be sure to have consistent values. I did not see any significant varience in measurements, maybe iss can measure out the Zealios he used to find out that they are a bit wobbly. The measurements I got were:
Outer housing top clip sides just under the plastic lip: 13,98mm +- 0,02mm; both
Outer housing plate retainer side, retainer not depressed: ~14,65mm; Gateron ~14,75mm; Zealios
Outer housing plate retainer side, retainer depressed: 13,8-13,9mm; both
PCB mount legs: 1,65mm +0,03mm -0,01mm; both
Middle stem: ~3,8mm; both
Contact leg close to middle stem: 0,8mm at housing up to 0,9mm at the top; both
Contact leg further away from middle stem:0,95mm at housing up to 1mm at the top ; both

Those values were pretty consistent across the different switches, so I am really interested in what causes the problem.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: Lobosmoose on Mon, 16 May 2016, 15:55:12
They're really loose in the current design- not sure what's going on, I'm working with Zeal to figure it out. For now, I'd strongly recommend using Cherry/Gateron switches for Round 0. (You can probably get away with Zealios on alphas if you don't mind some wobble, but placing them on the top row especially is a problem.)

I just did a bit of measuring. I used Zealios R2 62g and Gateron Browns from the current drop (Black lower housing), 5 each to be sure to have consistent values. I did not see any significant varience in measurements, maybe iss can measure out the Zealios he used to find out that they are a bit wobbly. The measurements I got were:
Outer housing top clip sides just under the plastic lip: 13,98mm +- 0,02mm; both
Outer housing plate retainer side, retainer not depressed: ~14,65mm; Gateron ~14,75mm; Zealios
Outer housing plate retainer side, retainer depressed: 13,8-13,9mm; both
PCB mount legs: 1,65mm +0,03mm -0,01mm; both
Middle stem: ~3,8mm; both
Contact leg close to middle stem: 0,8mm at housing up to 0,9mm at the top; both
Contact leg further away from middle stem:0,95mm at housing up to 1mm at the top ; both

Those values were pretty consistent across the different switches, so I am really interested in what causes the problem.

Maybe he's using round 1 zealios, im not sure if there is any change from r1 to r2 in terms of measurements apart from the color of the stems.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: Skysophrenic on Wed, 18 May 2016, 14:37:58
Looking pretty D: I want round 1 -chants for Round 1-
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 18 May 2016, 15:32:44
Can anyone confirm if its all Zealios or just R1? I have a set of R2 waiting for this board..
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: Chewypost on Wed, 18 May 2016, 19:58:55
I think the only person who can confirm right now is iss. I'll let you know how my r2 zealios fit though
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: derpingit on Wed, 18 May 2016, 20:00:05
Are the round2 sign ups still on for the 20th ?


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Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: audax989 on Wed, 18 May 2016, 22:09:04
Are the round2 sign ups still on for the 20th ?


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this is looking a bit bleak for the 20th. still keeping my hopes up though. I'd rather wait and have it compatible with existing 60% cases cause, that lustro case is looking mighty fine.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 18 May 2016, 22:32:10
Are the round2 sign ups still on for the 20th ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

this is looking a bit bleak for the 20th. still keeping my hopes up though. I'd rather wait and have it compatible with existing 60% cases cause, that lustro case is looking mighty fine.

hope for the next round it will compatible with common 60% cases. ;)
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: Lobosmoose on Thu, 19 May 2016, 16:23:59
Any new updates?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: iss on Fri, 20 May 2016, 17:48:19
Hey guys,

Round 0 shipments (and by extension, Round 1) have been delayed. The gist of the problem is consistency- the board and case have been maddeningly inconsistent (especially in regards to hot-swapping), and I don't want to ship boards with issues. The main issue is that switch chattering is initially present in many cases, and it can occur from several sources: a bad solder joint from the socket to the PCB, a poorly inserted switch, or an issue with the switch itself. While all of these are solvable, it's fairly time-consuming to diagnose and fix, which has been holding me up.

All parts are now on hand, and the firmware is pending metalliqaz's approval. I've got a few boards ready to ship pending final testing, and a few more in queue for assembly. If you're in Round 0 and would prefer to cancel or move your order to Round 1, send me a PM and I'll issue you a refund.

By the way, I might be at the NYC meetup next Thursday- if I'm there, I'll bring a couple of boards along.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 20 May 2016, 18:07:41
Will you have any info on standard 60% compatability before the Lustro GB ends? I might pick one of those up if the PCBs end up compatible to them, I still really like your sandwich case though.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: ideus on Fri, 20 May 2016, 19:14:33
Hey guys,

Round 0 shipments (and by extension, Round 1) have been delayed. The gist of the problem is consistency- the board and case have been maddeningly inconsistent (especially in regards to hot-swapping), and I don't want to ship boards with issues. The main issue is that switch chattering is initially present in many cases, and it can occur from several sources: a bad solder joint from the socket to the PCB, a poorly inserted switch, or an issue with the switch itself. While all of these are solvable, it's fairly time-consuming to diagnose and fix, which has been holding me up.

All parts are now on hand, and the firmware is pending metalliqaz's approval. I've got a few boards ready to ship pending final testing, and a few more in queue for assembly. If you're in Round 0 and would prefer to cancel or move your order to Round 1, send me a PM and I'll issue you a refund.

By the way, I might be at the NYC meetup next Thursday- if I'm there, I'll bring a couple of boards along.

The need for some debugging is totally normal with a new design, particularly with one that is innovative, like yours. Keep us posted on the availability of round one and its features: Standard sixty case compatibility, ISO and if it would be available with and without dip-sockets. I'd would be in for one PCB of each type and two plates, if they are sixty compatible.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: WOMBO on Fri, 20 May 2016, 19:26:36
super interested in these if they'er 60% compatible - this + lustro would look tight imo
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: gadzkun on Fri, 20 May 2016, 21:46:31
Hey guys,

Round 0 shipments (and by extension, Round 1) have been delayed. The gist of the problem is consistency- the board and case have been maddeningly inconsistent (especially in regards to hot-swapping), and I don't want to ship boards with issues. The main issue is that switch chattering is initially present in many cases, and it can occur from several sources: a bad solder joint from the socket to the PCB, a poorly inserted switch, or an issue with the switch itself. While all of these are solvable, it's fairly time-consuming to diagnose and fix, which has been holding me up.

All parts are now on hand, and the firmware is pending metalliqaz's approval. I've got a few boards ready to ship pending final testing, and a few more in queue for assembly. If you're in Round 0 and would prefer to cancel or move your order to Round 1, send me a PM and I'll issue you a refund.

By the way, I might be at the NYC meetup next Thursday- if I'm there, I'll bring a couple of boards along.

looks like a non-hotswappable PCB will solve this.
hope we have a non-hotswappable PCB option for next round? ;)
Title: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 21 May 2016, 07:45:51
Lots of people seem to actually prefer a non hotsawppaple version, including myself.

While hot swappability can be a nice feature if you make use of it, a soldered PCB just seems more solid / reliable to me and makes for one less source of error to worry about.

If the majority of ppl prefer a soldered version, and swappability actually is causing issues, I would personally vote for ditching hot swappability completely for round 1 boards.


Edit:
Ditching swappability should also make it quite easy to include a layout option like this, which was brought up by me and some others to be their ideal arrowed 60% layout.

(http://i.imgur.com/haRc2uK.png)

It would take only two extra switch spots for the pcb, and the layout uses pretty much only standard keys, and has a more clean overall appearance imo.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 21 May 2016, 08:34:03
If the majority of ppl prefer a soldered version, and swappability actually is causing issues, I would personally vote for ditching hot swappability completely for round 1 boards.
I'd be okay with a soldered version for round 1 as long as the plate supports switch top removal. I'm mainly here for the pretty cool sandwich case and the RGB stuff.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: gadzkun on Sat, 21 May 2016, 08:41:04
If the majority of ppl prefer a soldered version, and swappability actually is causing issues, I would personally vote for ditching hot swappability completely for round 1 boards.
I'd be okay with a soldered version for round 1 as long as the plate supports switch top removal. I'm mainly here for the pretty cool sandwich case and the RGB stuff.

i vote for non hot-swappable option too for round 1, and common 60% case compatibility of course :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: monksoffunk on Sat, 21 May 2016, 09:00:00
I vote for non hot-swappable, too.
And I like the sandwich case.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: Chewypost on Sat, 21 May 2016, 10:28:27
As much as non-swappable offers reliability and stability, I'm one for the hot swappable of the keyboard kit. I see this as a way to test out full kit switch types without having to solder them onto boards. It most likely will not be my daily driver, but it's a sweet option with the bonus of the lighting and price point for such things.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: Liam on Sat, 21 May 2016, 10:47:07
I believe with hot-swappable, you guys can still solder the pin and the "thing" to your PCBs.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 21 May 2016, 11:01:30
I believe with hot-swappable, you guys can still solder the pin and the "thing" to your PCBs.

It will be very hard to desolder it again though.

I'd say the best option (for me) would be:
Make 2 versions of the board, one non-hotswappable with switch top removal compatible plate and the other one just like planned with hotswap compatability. The non-hotswap version can be sold while the hotswappable one will be debugged. That way the ones that don't want hotswapping can already get their board and the hotswappable one will be sold in a round 2 after the bugs are removed. That way the ordering, manufacturing and shipping process can be split up and work will be more evenly distributed over the available time.

I was also in because I though hotswapping is a cool feature, but if it causes more problems than it should I'd rather go woth soldering and switch top removal for pseudo-hotwaps. Not saying the other one should be ditched though.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 21 May 2016, 13:46:48

As much as non-swappable offers reliability and stability, I'm one for the hot swappable of the keyboard kit. I see this as a way to test out full kit switch types without having to solder them onto boards. It most likely will not be my daily driver, but it's a sweet option with the bonus of the lighting and price point for such things.

Using it as a full board to test switches with is definitely a use case hotsawppability makes a lot of sense in.

I've been a fan of Khaannn's arrowed 60% layout for a long time tho and really want to put some use to the board, so I'd personally prefer a solid permanent build. :)

I'm mainly fan of the layout, but really liking dat sandwich case aswell.
Ideally I'd get a full board and one standalone pcb, so I can get the full board experience, aswell as enjoy dat layout on a secondary build in case of my choice.

I definitely understand the desire to test switches in a real use scenario, but for me it's all about the layout personally.



For a more permanent build I would prefer soldered tho personally.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: ideus on Sat, 21 May 2016, 14:27:06
Switches can be tested with soldered bottoms along with a plate with notches to allow switch opening, and old and reliable way to have the best of both worlds in a board that is as robust as any other keyboard around. It may require a bit of labor but at the end actual custom switches require disassembly any way, like ergos, jailbreaks and name your very own mix of stems, springs and tops, something that you can only do with MX switches.

I hope the design for round one includes:

Standard sixty case support.
PCB with regular pass true holes for switch or dip sockets soldering.
Plate with notches for switch removal.
ISO (I think this is something already considered).

Again, I'd be in for a couple of PCB and plate sets. By the way, I also hope the sandwich case may be offered as a separate item, it rocks.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: Chewypost on Sat, 21 May 2016, 22:14:27
Switches can be tested with soldered bottoms along with a plate with notches to allow switch opening, and old and reliable way to have the best of both worlds in a board that is as robust as any other keyboard around. It may require a bit of labor but at the end actual custom switches require disassembly any way, like ergos, jailbreaks and name your very own mix of stems, springs and tops, something that you can only do with MX switches.

True, and although it seems that your solution would be the middle ground between soldering and hot-swappable, some housings wouldn't be completely compatible, for example, zealios and cherries. I'd honestly rather be able to swap out the switches completely and offset an extra hour or so replacing switch tops, springs and top housings.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: iss on Mon, 23 May 2016, 13:56:52
Consistency issue has been solved- the reinforcing plate was sitting on parts of the stabilizer assembly, resulting in unevenness. Currently evaluating solutions to either fix the plates I have on hand or have them recut. Either way, it's looking good.

Zealios are okay everywhere except on the edges of the board- boards with 100% Zealios should work fine, but right now I'd recommend Zealio alphas + Gateron/Cherry mods.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 23 May 2016, 14:32:34
Consistency issue has been solved- the reinforcing plate was sitting on parts of the stabilizer assembly, resulting in unevenness. Currently evaluating solutions to either fix the plates I have on hand or have them recut. Either way, it's looking good.

Zealios are okay everywhere except on the edges of the board- boards with 100% Zealios should work fine, but right now I'd recommend Zealio alphas + Gateron/Cherry mods.

Very good. At this point and with the information already provided, it seems that a PCB for soldering may be a better fit for those that need a reliable keyboard, also for those that take it along during trips.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 28 May 2016, 05:38:39
How is standard 60% support coming along? I just want to know if I should join the Lustro GB for this board or not.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: Harms on Sat, 28 May 2016, 23:03:51
Hi, the pictures show the keyboard in two diff layouts. One has the backspace on the very top like and the other one above the enter key. Therefore, is the board offered in two diff layouts?

EDIT: Im a genius LOL XD. 62/60, so that must mean one has the standard backspace while the other has the HHKB style backspace.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: Lobosmoose on Sun, 29 May 2016, 05:03:33
Hi, the pictures show the keyboard in two diff layouts. One has the backspace on the very top like and the other one above the enter key. Therefore, is the board offered in two diff layouts?

EDIT: Im a genius LOL XD. 62/60, so that must mean one has the standard backspace while the other has the HHKB style backspace.

Yeah you got to choose what kind of layout you wanted. The options where 2u backspace or two 1u backspace, also a 7u spacebar or 6.25 spacebar.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: in production]
Post by: Harms on Sun, 29 May 2016, 17:16:00
Thank you and I was going to to this board for zeal, since I cannot solder. Thus, keep us updated on the zeal compatability, thanks. Finally, with assembly can you also install the stabs?.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: iss on Mon, 30 May 2016, 19:57:12
Shipping has started! 4/16 boards (the reviewer boards) will go out tomorrow, with three more currently ready to ship. Rest are in queue.

Right now, I'm strongly considering running a Round 0b (similar number of boards, drawn from the Round 0 signup pool) to test the new 60%-case compatible PCB. I've been extremely busy at work as of late, but that design should be wrapped up in the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: Lost2Frostbite on Mon, 30 May 2016, 20:46:58
A second round 0b sounds great! Appreciate your contributions to this community but please if work is more important take a break :)
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 30 May 2016, 20:52:15
Good news! It is great that you will try sixty compatibility in that 0b round.

I would appreciate a lot if you can kindle confirm the availability for the features bellow, besides sixty compatibility, at your earliest convenience:

1. PCB featuring switch soldering.
2. Plate with switch top removal.

It is understandable that you are not ready to answer if these features will be available or not; but, I just want to leave a reminder in the thread, as no one of them have been confirmed, yet.

The reason for the request in my case is this:

I am a thinkpad user and thinkpads have a keyboard check routine that runs at BIOS level each time the machine is started up; then, any chattering, or open circuit triggers an stop instruction and the machine will not start, unless the "delinquent" device is disconnected, I even have some issues with GONs keyboards, I think that a hot-swappable will be a no go in this case; sometimes, the dock mitigates the condition, but other it doesn't and plugging off the keyboard is the only solution, which is a bit annoying as I have a dock with display and keyboard already connected at work and at home.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: audax989 on Tue, 31 May 2016, 07:37:39
Round 0b!!!!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 June 2016, 16:38:46
(http://i.imgur.com/J8z9gyu.jpg)

I was lucky enough to be in on Round 0. Thank you iss. My first concern is that the packaging isn't doing it's job.

(http://i.imgur.com/xSeoR6e.jpg)

My board lost a corner. Second concern is that the leg came loose and now I have to completely disassemble the board that you were nice enough to build up to get to those screws. I know it looks better to have the screws come in through the bottom of the case so the head is hidden but that's something to think about. Especially since there are other exposed screw heads.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: theteam on Thu, 02 June 2016, 18:12:00
^ouch, how was it package?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: iss on Thu, 02 June 2016, 19:13:34
Will send you a PM in a bit for more details. Didn't expect that to happen (and livingspeedbump's board, sent out on the same day, was reportedly fine).
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 03 June 2016, 01:52:13
Upon closer inspection, it looks like the leg has completely ripped out. The nuts pulled out of the leg and ripped the plastic. So now the only way to reattach the leg is to glue it on.

The board was shipped with bubble wrap wrapped around it twice in a small box. I think the bubble wrap needs to be doubled up or something.


And the edges are really banged up. I think there needs to be a reconsideration on the material used as well.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: Liam on Mon, 06 June 2016, 22:06:45
Any update?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 09 June 2016, 01:18:31
Received the Round 0 keyboard in Norway. Everything arrived in good condition. I will make a review as soon as I get my Gaterons in here. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: ideus on Thu, 09 June 2016, 09:17:32
I would appreciate a lot a draft schedule for round 1 PCB and the features it will sport. I damaged one of my boards when changing its layout; thus, I am in need of a replacement and I would like to understand how long this will take and if it may fit my needs, to decide if I should wait or if I should get an alternative PCB for my build.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: Ryvaeus on Thu, 09 June 2016, 20:00:35
Hey iss, sorry to be a bother especially considering you have some things to deal with that's put delays on the board. Just wondering if you're still planning on updating us over at your subreddit?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: zoke on Mon, 13 June 2016, 15:16:49
any plans for hot-swappable plate which is compatible with most of the 60% cases e.g TEX cases?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 13 June 2016, 16:16:02
any plans for hot-swappable plate which is compatible with most of the 60% cases e.g TEX cases?

The hot-swapping feature is provided by the PCB, not the plate.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: Liam on Tue, 14 June 2016, 14:01:26
Almost 2 weeks and no update yet  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: Lobosmoose on Tue, 14 June 2016, 18:11:19
Almost 2 weeks and no update yet  :confused:


Yeah thats not a cool thing to do just to leave the participants in the dark like that. I just hope he completes R0 before June but thats looking unlikely, was really hoping to have a new board to play with this summer.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 14 June 2016, 19:49:20
The project seems to be in stalled now.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: iss on Tue, 14 June 2016, 21:50:10
No news because...

1) I've been working too much (54 hours/6 days last week).
2) Five boards ready to ship, but waiting on a bit of reviewer feedback given the issues CPTBadAss had.

Round 0b/1 definitely are a bit stalled right now. Hopefully I'll have good news soon.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: Lobosmoose on Wed, 15 June 2016, 00:48:19
No news because...

1) I've been working too much (54 hours/6 days last week).
2) Five boards ready to ship, but waiting on a bit of reviewer feedback given the issues CPTBadAss had.

Round 0b/1 definitely are a bit stalled right now. Hopefully I'll have good news soon.

Thank you for updating us, i knew it had to do something with the reviewers. i hope one of those boards is mine!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 25 June 2016, 07:01:23
So uhh, any news? A "Hi, I'm still working on fixing this and that problem" would be enough for me.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: iss on Sat, 25 June 2016, 18:22:35
Will be shipping more boards on Monday- will update once that happens.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: Vadurr on Sat, 25 June 2016, 21:57:24
With my Pulse set arriving next week, this will be the last piece to my project!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: iss on Sun, 26 June 2016, 19:43:14
Shipping out five boards tomorrow morning- remaining boards will be shipped out on July 11th, as I'm out of town next weekend.

Gave the original board a bit of a freshening today :)

(https://i.imgur.com/VM4R99b.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 4/16 shipped]
Post by: audax989 on Sun, 26 June 2016, 21:00:47
Shipping out five boards tomorrow morning- remaining boards will be shipped out on July 11th, as I'm out of town next weekend.

Gave the original board a bit of a freshening today :)

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(https://i.imgur.com/VM4R99b.jpg)



they come with a PuLSE set now! oh wow! such improvements! jk

Still stoked for this man.. round 0b!!!!!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 9/15 shipped]
Post by: iss on Sun, 26 June 2016, 22:05:19
Not just PuLSE, but Calm Depths ;)
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 9/15 shipped]
Post by: audax989 on Mon, 27 June 2016, 04:12:55
Not just PuLSE, but Calm Depths ;)

Oh my bad. I must be color blind lol.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 9/15 shipped]
Post by: oumakavoula on Mon, 27 June 2016, 14:47:40
Can someone explain how does a hot-swappable board works compared to a regular soldered board please ?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 9/15 shipped]
Post by: iss on Mon, 27 June 2016, 14:51:17
Instead of disassembling the board, desoldering old switches, and soldering new switches for a swap or install, you just pull the switch out and push a new one in. That's it!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 9/15 shipped]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 27 June 2016, 14:51:53
Can someone explain how does a hot-swappable board works compared to a regular soldered board please ?

The short answer: Dip sockets are soldered on the PCB, instead of the actual switch pins; then, the switches can be plugged in the sockets to get them connected to the matrix of the PCB. In that way you can swap them at any time, it is just a matter of plugging them in and out, the sockets. I hope this help to have an idea.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 9/15 shipped]
Post by: oumakavoula on Tue, 28 June 2016, 07:03:20
The short answer: Dip sockets are soldered on the PCB, instead of the actual switch pins; then, the switches can be plugged in the sockets to get them connected to the matrix of the PCB. In that way you can swap them at any time, it is just a matter of plugging them in and out, the sockets. I hope this help to have an idea.

Thanks for the answer.
Is it because of the price that this is not a feature on every board ?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 9/15 shipped]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 28 June 2016, 07:35:07
The short answer: Dip sockets are soldered on the PCB, instead of the actual switch pins; then, the switches can be plugged in the sockets to get them connected to the matrix of the PCB. In that way you can swap them at any time, it is just a matter of plugging them in and out, the sockets. I hope this help to have an idea.

Thanks for the answer.
Is it because of the price that this is not a feature on every board ?

I do not think neither costs or pricing limit its use in all boards, instead, soldered switches provide higher reliability to the keyboard assembly, hot swapability is cool when you want to try different switches in the same board, but comes at the cost of connections that are not as safe as a soldered joint. For a keyboard aficionado it could be a welcome feature, but for real world applications, a soldered board will be the best option any time. I think the middle ground are the keyboards with plates with notches that allow switch top removal, then you can change the switch's internals with no disordering needed.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 9/15 shipped]
Post by: oumakavoula on Tue, 28 June 2016, 07:38:29
I do not think neither costs or pricing limit its use in all boards, instead, soldered switches provide higher reliability to the keyboard assembly, hot swapability is cool when you want to try different switches in the same board, but comes at the cost of connections that are not as safe as a soldered joint. For a keyboard aficionado it could be a welcome feature, but for real world applications, a soldered board will be the best option any time. I think the middle ground are the keyboards with plates with notches that allow switch top removal, then you can change the switch's internals with no disordering needed.

Thank you very much for the explanation ! I wish my ducky allowed top removal ^_^
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 9/15 shipped]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 28 June 2016, 09:47:08
I do not think neither costs or pricing limit its use in all boards, instead, soldered switches provide higher reliability to the keyboard assembly, hot swapability is cool when you want to try different switches in the same board, but comes at the cost of connections that are not as safe as a soldered joint. For a keyboard aficionado it could be a welcome feature, but for real world applications, a soldered board will be the best option any time. I think the middle ground are the keyboards with plates with notches that allow switch top removal, then you can change the switch's internals with no disordering needed.

Thank you very much for the explanation ! I wish my ducky allowed top removal ^_^

It is only an opinion, of course, but soldered joints being more reliable than switches plugged into dip sockets are closer to a fact.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 9/15 shipped]
Post by: iss on Thu, 30 June 2016, 18:58:57
Looks like people are starting to receive boards! Here's a quick firmware guide- my changes to EasyAVR still haven't been integrated into the main branch, so this will have to do for now:

1) If necessary, download and install Python 2.7 (https://www.python.org/downloads/).
2) Download and unzip the source code (https://github.com/edfan/EasyAVR).
3) Open EasyAVR using run.bat.
4) Select "62/60 (Round 0)" when creating a new layout.
5) RGB configuration and instructions are available at View -> RGB Configuration.
6) When ready, press the reset button on the bottom of the keyboard, then navigate to File -> Build and Reprogram and follow the prompts.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 9/15 shipped]
Post by: buzzking00 on Fri, 01 July 2016, 14:56:37
I signed up for Geekhack just to get updates on the next round!
Awesome board mate!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 9/15 shipped]
Post by: Chewypost on Tue, 05 July 2016, 22:47:16
I'm one of the lucky ones that got in on round 0! Does anyone have any points of interests that they want me to cover on the board?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 9/15 shipped]
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 06 July 2016, 00:01:09
Does anyone have any points of interests that they want me to cover on the board?

1. size and Weight comparison so other Boards
2. your own opinion on the board
3. lighting
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 9/15 shipped]
Post by: Lost2Frostbite on Wed, 06 July 2016, 09:13:55
I'm one of the lucky ones that got in on round 0! Does anyone have any points of interests that they want me to cover on the board?

A build log would be much appreciated :)
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 9/15 shipped]
Post by: Chewypost on Wed, 06 July 2016, 12:47:29
I'm one of the lucky ones that got in on round 0! Does anyone have any points of interests that they want me to cover on the board?

A build log would be much appreciated :)

It was actually shipped to me fully built! The only thing I had to do was put on keycaps.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: iss on Sun, 10 July 2016, 21:39:34
Round 0 is just about finished shipping- one board has a PCB issue and one board is waiting on switches. Expect Round 1 news in the next few days!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sun, 10 July 2016, 22:02:49
Round 0 is just about finished shipping- one board has a PCB issue and one board is waiting on switches. Expect Round 1 news in the next few days!

I actually don't even know if I still want this, please suprise me with  the R1 News enough to make me interested again!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: ideus on Sun, 10 July 2016, 23:18:13
Round 0 is just about finished shipping- one board has a PCB issue and one board is waiting on switches. Expect Round 1 news in the next few days!

I actually don't even know if I still want this, please suprise me with  the R1 News enough to make me interested again!

You have expressed my sentiments as well.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: buzzking00 on Mon, 11 July 2016, 17:37:57
Are there any changes to round 1 or is it same as round 0 as far as PCB etc
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: breckstar on Mon, 11 July 2016, 18:44:47
I still want two (home and work)  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: Vadurr on Tue, 12 July 2016, 01:24:09
Crossing my fingers to get in this upcoming round! :)
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 12 July 2016, 01:47:55
Still hoping for standalone pcb and plate over here. :)
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 12 July 2016, 02:30:32
Still hoping for standalone pcb and plate over here. :)

im still waiting too +w/o hot swappable
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: JDragon on Tue, 12 July 2016, 02:56:30
Eagerly looking forward to round 1. I've got a bunch of Zealios looking for a new home. :D
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: Vadurr on Tue, 12 July 2016, 16:49:18
Eagerly looking forward to round 1. I've got a bunch of Zealios looking for a new home. :D

You and I both! Real eager to feel these 67g's in action!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: Pemdas on Fri, 15 July 2016, 17:11:36
Got my round 0 62/60 and have been messing with it for a couple days. The rgb leds are really fun to work with and the configuration is super simple and easy to work with :thumb:

(http://i.imgur.com/75SjQny.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/u67kiNY.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/RsUSGF7.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/KTekJ31.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/y9Uxu2H.jpg)


The switch swapping is really nice. Zealios are indeed a bit loose but the gaterons and cherries I've used have been perfect. Tight enough to require a tool to pry them off. As someone who is really indecisive hot-swappable switches are a great feature!

I did run into a problem on my board though.

(http://i.imgur.com/PI9yBkj.png)

I couldn't get the "g" "h" "j" "k" "l" ";" "'" "enter" keys to work. Tried different switches made sure the firmware had keys assigned to them and everything but just couldn't get them to work. The leds functioned 100% though.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: Lost2Frostbite on Tue, 19 July 2016, 18:56:54
Did you manage to fix it?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 19 July 2016, 19:02:49

I did run into a problem on my board though.

I couldn't get the "g" "h" "j" "k" "l" ";" "'" "enter" keys to work. Tried different switches made sure the firmware had keys assigned to them and everything but just couldn't get them to work. The leds functioned 100% though.

It is a shame that you have a nice adorn with cool LEDs that cannot be used for typing. I really hope the OP fix these kind of issues in the upcoming rounds.
Title: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: jenggo on Tue, 19 July 2016, 19:29:11
I couldn't get the "g" "h" "j" "k" "l" ";" "'" "enter" keys to work. Tried different switches made sure the firmware had keys assigned to them and everything but just couldn't get them to work. The leds functioned 100% though.

This same problem occured with my satan GH60. I did check the atmega controller, one of the controller feet did not soldered to the board. And after i soldered that feet, the board works well, now my satan into hhkb :D

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160720/94bdebaa89778e6e455e38ed535aa32d.jpg)


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Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: Pemdas on Tue, 19 July 2016, 20:10:01
It is a shame that you have a nice adorn with cool LEDs that cannot be used for typing. I really hope the OP fix these kind of issues in the upcoming rounds.

Ya, was a bit disappointing but I expected some kinks in round 0 so not too gutted. Haven't given up hope on the board yet either, gonna open it up when I have time later this week and try to get to the bottom of the problem. I should totally hang it on my wall for some keyboard art in the meantime though as the leds are quite lovely looking :p


Did you manage to fix it?

Not yet :( but haven't had much time to try anything other than the switches and firmware.


This same problem occured with my satan GH60. I did check the atmega controller, one of the controller feet did not soldered to the board. And after i soldered that feet, the board works well, now my satan into hhkb :D
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I haven't opened up the case and looked at the pcb yet as I haven't had much time, but I'll defienitly have to check out all the connections to the main controller. Thanks for the tip :D

*you're satan looks beautiful btw!
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: Chewypost on Thu, 21 July 2016, 16:06:39
Finally got time to sit down and play with the keyboard. Lighting on the board is great. Its customizable and I can individually program each LED. Lighting on the Zealios seemed less even compared to the Gaterons through the switch housings. Although with the clear housing on the Zealios, it's to be expected.
[attach=1][attach=2][attach=4]

Didn't come across very many problems with they keyboard itself, except a few things. The biggest problem with the keyboard for me was one of the modifier switches weren't seated properly. So unless I press reaally hard on it, it wont activate even if the switch activates. The switch itself seems to be sitting 1-2mm off the top plate, so I'd say its because the switch itself isn't making full contact with the DIP socket.
[attach=3]

Gaterons were in fact more snug in the sockets compared to Zealios. When I pop off a keycap, each Zealios switch would come off the board along with the keycap. With the Gaterons, I'd say 70% of the time they stayed on the board. Another thing I'd be worried about is the bare mini USB socket, as the case leaves it open and exposed. I'd like for it to have it covered or the case to be redesigned so that it offers more support for the socket.
[attach=7][attach=5]


The size of the keyboard is the same size as the 60% standard size. It's the same length as my Ducky mini. Weight's of the Mini were 730g with keycaps on, and 520g on the 60/62. The board feels really light and with the little nubs acting as feet, it feels a little too light for my taste.
[attach=6]

In the end, I got what I wanted from the board. It wouldn't be my daily driver, but the lighting on it and the hotswap capabilities makes it really run to play with. Definitely worth the price I paid for it.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: Jmeferlater on Sat, 23 July 2016, 01:38:11
Any news/updates for Round 1? This seems like the ideal keyboard for me
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: Vadurr on Mon, 01 August 2016, 17:39:29
OP will surely deliver :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: Liam on Mon, 08 August 2016, 08:35:31
Any update for the project?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: THEXY on Mon, 15 August 2016, 04:29:55
So I am one of the 2 boards that is still waiting... OP has gone dark on me over on Reddit and has not responded to any of my PMs over the last month. Last thing I heard was that my board was done and was waiting on switches and if I wanted he was going to send the board out and refund me the switches. I told him do what was easier on him.. So i'm just wondering if anyone on here knows OP because i just wanna know whats going on. Any help is appreciated :)
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: enthal007br on Sun, 21 August 2016, 09:31:53
So I am one of the 2 boards that is still waiting... OP has gone dark on me over on Reddit and has not responded to any of my PMs over the last month. Last thing I heard was that my board was done and was waiting on switches and if I wanted he was going to send the board out and refund me the switches. I told him do what was easier on him.. So i'm just wondering if anyone on here knows OP because i just wanna know whats going on. Any help is appreciated :)

Hey, I'm the other guy who was originally waiting for the other board and spoke to you on Reddit. I unfortunately had to go through PayPal and request a refund after OP doing the same thing to me. He completely cut off communication about anything related to this project, yet still keeps an active Reddit account. Luckily he accepted the refund request, but that's literally the most contact I've had with him in months (and he didn't even need to speak to me directly).

It's whatever, really. I was excited for this board as I'm really new to this hobby, but this guy just left a terrible image on the scene for me and it's tough for me to get back into it.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: gadzkun on Mon, 22 August 2016, 23:18:02
still no update for next round? need this layout in my laifu :p
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: Lost2Frostbite on Mon, 22 August 2016, 23:23:47
OP seems to have gone dark but this board has it all! I really hope he comes back or someone picks up this project.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: MandrewDavis on Tue, 23 August 2016, 13:06:59
OP seems to have gone dark but this board has it all! I really hope he comes back or someone picks up this project.

Zeal just released his tmk PCB with in-switch RGB LEDs, but it is in a standard 60% layout, not hot-swappable and without official underglow support. I wanted this project to succeed as the price is really good, especially since the case was included.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 23 August 2016, 20:15:06
OP seems to have gone dark but this board has it all! I really hope he comes back or someone picks up this project.

Zeal just released his tmk PCB with in-switch RGB LEDs, but it is in a standard 60% layout, not hot-swappable and without official underglow support. I wanted this project to succeed as the price is really good, especially since the case was included.

zeal PCB is common 60% but this one is entirely different layout.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 23 August 2016, 21:15:54
OP seems to have gone dark but this board has it all! I really hope he comes back or someone picks up this project.

Zeal just released his tmk PCB with in-switch RGB LEDs, but it is in a standard 60% layout, not hot-swappable and without official underglow support. I wanted this project to succeed as the price is really good, especially since the case was included.

zeal PCB is common 60% but this one is entirely different layout.

Zeal products are extremely overpriced, to say the least; they come with huge hype building, but truth be told, a one hundred dollars PCB is very hard to get, while there are competitors that offer pretty much the same for less money.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: depreshun on Wed, 24 August 2016, 03:26:28
I wonder why the OP went dark on this. The layout is so damn nice imo, I wish I could get my hands on one. Someone needs to find the original PCB supplier  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: Lost2Frostbite on Wed, 24 August 2016, 21:49:31
I wonder why the OP went dark on this. The layout is so damn nice imo, I wish I could get my hands on one. Someone needs to find the original PCB supplier  :confused:
Would the round 0 PCB have any markings indicating who the producer might be?
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: CJD_Anthony on Thu, 25 August 2016, 15:47:39
I wonder why the OP went dark on this. The layout is so damn nice imo, I wish I could get my hands on one. Someone needs to find the original PCB supplier  :confused:

some guy scalping his set for $300 on mechmarket, dunno if anyone would wanna pay more than 2x the original price but its there if u want it
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: ideus on Thu, 25 August 2016, 15:49:02
This project seems death.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 25 August 2016, 15:57:58
This project seems death.

He'll come back eventually I guess, let's wait and see if he has an actual reason or just an excuse.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: depreshun on Thu, 25 August 2016, 17:51:17
I wonder why the OP went dark on this. The layout is so damn nice imo, I wish I could get my hands on one. Someone needs to find the original PCB supplier  :confused:

some guy scalping his set for $300 on mechmarket, dunno if anyone would wanna pay more than 2x the original price but its there if u want it

Yeah I saw that. Kinda ridiculous, don't want ti that bad lol
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: Chewypost on Fri, 26 August 2016, 04:02:12
I wonder why the OP went dark on this. The layout is so damn nice imo, I wish I could get my hands on one. Someone needs to find the original PCB supplier  :confused:

some guy scalping his set for $300 on mechmarket, dunno if anyone would wanna pay more than 2x the original price but its there if u want it

That's a shame. Sucks that there will always be people who ruin it for others.

OP seems to have gone dark, as there aren't any replies to me either.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: Lobosmoose on Fri, 26 August 2016, 18:51:53
I wonder why the OP went dark on this. The layout is so damn nice imo, I wish I could get my hands on one. Someone needs to find the original PCB supplier  :confused:

some guy scalping his set for $300 on mechmarket, dunno if anyone would wanna pay more than 2x the original price but its there if u want it

The keyboard isn't selling for double the asking price, the keyboard alone is 144.50 that how much i payed for it. Plus it comes with 62x 78g zealios and those are about a dollar a piece or $0.75 if you get in the zealpc group buy then you would need to calculate shipping so thats another $15. So the mark up price is only about ~$80 over still a little steep but reasonable to me.
Title: Re: [GB] 62/60: The first full-RGB, hot-swappable 60% [Round 0: 12/14 shipped]
Post by: gaiden on Fri, 26 August 2016, 19:47:50
TBH $300 for a 60% board without aluminum casing is too steep for me.

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