seems like random prices, ontop of misuse of measurement methodology.You're going to need to clarify what you mean?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HmeSYmM.jpg)
I don't have audiophile stuff I'd say.So that's an amp and a hardware equaliser? Definitely audiophile stuff, just sensibly priced :thumb: What's your source?
Got 1 schiit modi + 1 schiit loki hooked up to a HAD-1.
The magic happens in the Loki tho, I love what it does to the sound.
I feel like there's a good amount of BS and even more people that can't tell the difference. To me it's a hobby with people with such deep pockets that you need to really constantly ask yourself what you actually need to have in order to fulfill your needs and when you're just flat out wasting money
I'm only familiar with the headphone side of audiophilia where frequency response graphs have their place but they rely on fake ear canals which may or may not be similar to your ear. I've listened to the Sennheiser Orpheus and while I wouldn't pay $50,000 for a set they did sound very good...My PC is the source atm, I'm listening to FLAC through Plex (I rip all my albums and put 'em on there, so easy)I don't have audiophile stuff I'd say.So that's an amp and a hardware equaliser? Definitely audiophile stuff, just sensibly priced :thumb: What's your source?
Got 1 schiit modi + 1 schiit loki hooked up to a HAD-1.
The magic happens in the Loki tho, I love what it does to the sound.
My PC is the source atm, I'm listening to FLAC through Plex (I rip all my albums and put 'em on there, so easy)
<$100 for an amp that's not terrible? That's hard to complain about...
the cheapos out there are recommending aiyama a07, honestly it's still really expensive for what it is.
Never mind the software, there's not even mention of a dedicated soundcard - audiophile club membership revoked :pMy PC is the source atm, I'm listening to FLAC through Plex (I rip all my albums and put 'em on there, so easy)idk bluejuice, Plex doesn't have enough audiophile street-cred...
seems like random prices, ontop of misuse of measurement methodology.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HmeSYmM.jpg)
Sennheiser go way more expensive than Sony - see The Orpheus (https://www.audioaffair.co.uk/sennheiser-he-1-orpheus-flagship-headphones-system). I have listened to a pair of these and they did sound great, couldn't fault the comfort either. But at that price you'd expect nothing less (https://cdn.geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/laugh.gif)seems like random prices, ontop of misuse of measurement methodology.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HmeSYmM.jpg)
yeah it pretty much is, got some 120 dollar sennheizer headphones they work great and all but i dont really see the upper tier ones like sonys
Haha - I didn't think a soundcard was necessary as the USB had ample power to get the signal to the DAC. :))Never mind the software, there's not even mention of a dedicated soundcard - audiophile club membership revoked :pMy PC is the source atm, I'm listening to FLAC through Plex (I rip all my albums and put 'em on there, so easy)idk bluejuice, Plex doesn't have enough audiophile street-cred...
From what I've gathered recently, most Audiophiles shun dedicated sound cards - I still run a SB Zx and it more than powers what I have to the point I can't go above 25 in Windows in most applications. Also I think Plex might have gained more cred with teaming up with Tidal for music, even give a discount for the service.Might have to look into that tidal thing. :P Been using Plex for my music since I found out about it - wanted to be able to play my music collection away from home.
I'm not an audiophile - at least I don't think so, that would require sinking lots of money into it, and I don't want to.An audiophile is someone who appreciates and actively listens to music rather than using it as background noise or fashion (people who spend silly money on Beats headphones, which are almost always not worth half their price tag), you know what a DAC is rather than just plugging in to your motherboard soundcard so I suspect suspect you are one. Contrary to my joke above and what most people think Audiophile is not a derogatory term reserved for people with more money than sense who are laughed at by true audiophiles and "normal" people alike, so wear your badge with pride :)
From what I've gathered recently, most Audiophiles shun dedicated sound cards - I still run a SB Zx and it more than powers what I have to the point I can't go above 25 in Windows in most applications. Also I think Plex might have gained more cred with teaming up with Tidal for music, even give a discount for the service.There's volume which is what everyone thinks an amp is for then there is power which is what an amp is actually for - unless you have headphones that need significantly more power than they're getting there is nothing to be gained by getting an amp (I note the Zx has an extension for easy unplugging and what appears to be a volume knob - nice!)
The audiophile scene is rife with BS, but not everything relating to getting the best sound out of an audio setup is BS.I agree with all you say but am amused by the mention of rosin core which I'd only ever heard of in the context of soldering where it definitely makes life easier; a quick search revealed nothing else. While flux residue can be conductive I can't believe anyone would put it in an audio cable (though in the world of audiophile BS maybe they did!)
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Myth: Silver / Oxygen Free Copper / Rosin Core / [insert fancy material here] speakers will reproduce sound more faithfully than generic speaker wire.
Lies, Beryllium speaker = bestBeryllium is used for the speaker cone because it's stiff not the coil (wire) so yes, it can make a difference :)
Haha alright then.I'm not an audiophile - at least I don't think so, that would require sinking lots of money into it, and I don't want to.An audiophile is someone who appreciates and actively listens to music rather than using it as background noise or fashion (people who spend silly money on Beats headphones, which are almost always not worth half their price tag), you know what a DAC is rather than just plugging in to your motherboard soundcard so I suspect suspect you are one. Contrary to my joke above and what most people think Audiophile is not a derogatory term reserved for people with more money than sense who are laughed at by true audiophiles and "normal" people alike, so wear your badge with pride :)
An audiophile is someone who appreciates and actively listens to music
Piano is my favourite instrument by far & I always wish I could have learned the piano as a kid, but my parents never supportet it. Now I feel like im too old to start fresh.
Though I doubt I would have even had the patience to learn as a kid, with my ADHD and all.
Once you become proficient at the piano there's also the Fortepiano, Clavichord & Harpsichord which are wonderful as well & actually suit some some baroque and classical compositions better then modern piano. I like Bach on harpsichord & Mozart on fortepiano. It can completely transform certain pieces. Listen to Mozarts Turkish March on Clavichord/Harpsichord & at historical tempo for example.
one thing i never knew is when are you meant to change the stylus and cartridge, well i know that if the tip is broken you definitely need to change the stylus, but other than that, i have no clues. how often do you do it?
An audiophile is someone who appreciates and actively listens to music
By that definition I have definitely been an audiophile for over half a century.
I have read that people feel that music sounds "best" on the type of gear and in the environment that they originally listened to it with great engagement and appreciation.
Today I do 90%+ of my listening (not counting the car radio) on my computer sound system (a Logitech 5.1 set that was "the best "bang" for about $200 bucks about a decade ago at Micro Center) and the remaining 10% of serious listening on a hodge-podge of 1970s-1980s "mid-upper consumer grade" stereo gear. My Technics direct drive turntable is fairly straightforward and not over-much, but I am scrupulous about keeping it equipped with a good cartridge and fresh stylus.
one thing i never knew is when are you meant to change the stylus and cartridge, well i know that if the tip is broken you definitely need to change the stylus, but other than that, i have no clues. how often do you do it?
An audiophile is someone who appreciates and actively listens to music
By that definition I have definitely been an audiophile for over half a century.
I have read that people feel that music sounds "best" on the type of gear and in the environment that they originally listened to it with great engagement and appreciation.
Today I do 90%+ of my listening (not counting the car radio) on my computer sound system (a Logitech 5.1 set that was "the best "bang" for about $200 bucks about a decade ago at Micro Center) and the remaining 10% of serious listening on a hodge-podge of 1970s-1980s "mid-upper consumer grade" stereo gear. My Technics direct drive turntable is fairly straightforward and not over-much, but I am scrupulous about keeping it equipped with a good cartridge and fresh stylus.
i have plenty of pops on my old scratched up vinyls or when i lost the carbon brush and my new vinyls came covered in paper dust... new vinyls should not pop or any of that :) although vinyl is not actually that good sound quality anyway, tape or FLAC are technically better but who cares, i just love seeing the thing spin and the much larger covers, but while at it might as well getting it sounding as good as possible
the more messed up it is, the m0ar warm, m0ar HIFI. if you don't hear a bunch of cracks pop, hiss, that only means your amplification system is not HIGH RESOLVING enuff. better upgrade, or the Hifi counsel will sanction your community credentials.
i lost the carbon brush and my new vinyls came covered in paper dust
new vinyls should not pop or any of that
i have plenty of pops on my old scratched up vinyls or when i lost the carbon brush and my new vinyls came covered in paper dust... new vinyls should not pop or any of that :) although vinyl is not actually that good sound quality anyway, tape or FLAC are technically better but who cares, i just love seeing the thing spin and the much larger covers, but while at it might as well getting it sounding as good as possible
the more messed up it is, the m0ar warm, m0ar HIFI. if you don't hear a bunch of cracks pop, hiss, that only means your amplification system is not HIGH RESOLVING enuff. better upgrade, or the Hifi counsel will sanction your community credentials.
I wash really dirty records in the kitchen sink with a sponge and soapy water. It can make a dramatic improvement. I set them upright in the dish rack for 10-20 minutes to get the heavy water to run off, then wipe them lightly with a cotton or microfiber cloth and let them finish air-drying for at least an hour, preferably more.
i guess i am in for a new stylus and cartridge i guess (Audio Technica stopped making stylus for my cartridge a few decades ago :)) i am pretty careful but i bought it used 12 years ago and i have had friends who had their 1st experience with vinyl on it, and sometimes may have dropped it next to the disc :)Stylus wear can seem somewhat subjective. Back in the day almost every stylus brush came with a magnifying glass. A smoothly worn tip will not damage records too much but a chip or a crack on a diamond surface can scrape them up quickly. I would say a stylus should certainly be replaced at least every year or so if it gets a good deal of use, maybe a couple or a few years if you are careful with it and don't play it very often - to ensure protecting your records at least as much as for sound quality.
i lost the carbon brush and my new vinyls came covered in paper dust
new vinyls should not pop or any of that
GDI, saw a video, super speaker designer guy tells people if you're close to a wall, put a sock in the rear port.
well Tp4 rolled the sock too tightly, and the subwoofer sucked it all the way in, can't get it out. now have to take it apart.
Sigh.....................Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HmeSYmM.jpg)
a Technics SL-1200 MK2i think one of the most beautiful turntable i know of, if i ever find one for cheap i do not know if i could not add it to my ever growing collection :)
Aside from replacing the 30 year old capacitors in the L5s I have no plans for an upgrade.there is good chance that those are still plenty good for 30 more years, i mean they are not exposed to "extreme" heat (60+C) as they are in a pc so should last a long while, it is more likely that the ones in your amp if it is not the top component may go first
It gets ugly because if somebody plunks down $15k on a set of speakers, they WILL hear a difference. It doesn't matter if there is one or not; they spent used car money on a set of speakers and admitting they made a mistake is admitting they wasted it all. This means that there's heavy debate between those who try to call out some of those pseudo-science claims and people who will never, ever change their opinion on their own equipment.i think that this is the heart of the problem, and it gets ugly because some marketing peoples found out that you could exploit that to great effect, and great money, i do not think TP was trying to go against the community but against the marketers/scammers selling those things to peoples who does not know better, well it is how i read his post.
unless you are a rich lunatic... for 99.5% of the population getting some nice but relatively cheap gear is going to provide a very enjoyable listening response... I am quite partial to Vintage Stereo Equipment (see photo of my computer room)... not counting the headphone stuff the vintage amps, receivers and speakers and various other components on my stereo shelf.. cost about $400 total (i did get some rather good deals especially on the Sony ES Stack getting the full stack for $75 in a rather insane deal and that gear is probably worth several thousand dollars if I decided to sell it for some reason.And a Carlsberg pilsner. :P Nice.
But even if you cant find used gear / don't done to deal with looking for it and servicing it ..etc. You can buy a large number of pretty decent stereo integrated amplifiers for under $1000 (cambridge, Yamaha, Denon, Marantz.. ?? etc). Also there are some great speakers for pretty reasonable prices new. Q Acoustics 3030i $550~ || Wharfedale - Denton 80th $600~ || ELAC Debut 2.0 B5.2 Bookshelf Speakers $310~ as a few examples.. a ton more from Klispch , Polk... Monitor Audio NHT...and so many others.
Depending on your needs / preferences / how big your room is ... you could have a very nice amp and speakers for under /near $1K quite easily... of course you could also spend several hundred thousand dollars or more if you really wanted to.
Here is my own PC area (yes my cable management is kinda crap.. thank you for noticing.)
Here is my own PC area (yes my cable management is kinda crap.. thank you for noticing.)
rumors say the debut might go back on sale to $150 level, but then again, neodymium prices are really high so, who knows. though do these cheap speakers even use neodymium? prolly notall high end old speakers uses ferrite magnet, not using neodymium means nothing, well on big speaker, on tiny speakers it does
unless you are a rich lunatic... for 99.5% of the population getting some nice but relatively cheap gear is going to provide a very enjoyable listening response... I am quite partial to Vintage Stereo Equipment (see photo of my computer room)... not counting the headphone stuff the vintage amps, receivers and speakers and various other components on my stereo shelf.. cost about $400 total (i did get some rather good deals especially on the Sony ES Stack getting the full stack for $75 in a rather insane deal and that gear is probably worth several thousand dollars if I decided to sell it for some reason.
But even if you cant find used gear / don't done to deal with looking for it and servicing it ..etc. You can buy a large number of pretty decent stereo integrated amplifiers for under $1000 (cambridge, Yamaha, Denon, Marantz.. ?? etc). Also there are some great speakers for pretty reasonable prices new. Q Acoustics 3030i $550~ || Wharfedale - Denton 80th $600~ || ELAC Debut 2.0 B5.2 Bookshelf Speakers $310~ as a few examples.. a ton more from Klispch , Polk... Monitor Audio NHT...and so many others.
Depending on your needs / preferences / how big your room is ... you could have a very nice amp and speakers for under /near $1K quite easily... of course you could also spend several hundred thousand dollars or more if you really wanted to.
Here is my own PC area (yes my cable management is kinda crap.. thank you for noticing.)
A wise man once said to me "If you don't have your files backed up in at least three different locations, those files do not exist.", and he was referring to local hard storage, not cloud-based. Just sayin'. :)Haha - I didn't think a soundcard was necessary as the USB had ample power to get the signal to the DAC. :))Never mind the software, there's not even mention of a dedicated soundcard - audiophile club membership revoked :pMy PC is the source atm, I'm listening to FLAC through Plex (I rip all my albums and put 'em on there, so easy)idk bluejuice, Plex doesn't have enough audiophile street-cred...
TP: Plex runs fine for my usage. Plays flac perfectly. And the indexing? Oh my lord it's easy, just slap the ripped audio into a folder and plex takes care of the rest. <3
dissn' tp4's choice
now tp4 = super mad
What is the point of having super linearity if the transducer can't deliver it in any real listening scenario.One more reason that headphones are just better (in addition to being cheaper, not being affected by the room and not annoying other people in the house)
You have to have a special room designed for omni-directional speakers.
How should the room be designed?I thought the only way to design a room for speakers was to cover everything in foam that looks like egg boxes - doesn't matter what shape it is if there are no sound waves bouncing around?
Why are crossover parts so expensive
I always figured that even though the raw loose pieces, like the capacitors and resistors, cost only pennies each (well, maybe nickels or dimes) for general hobby use, "audiophiles" are often times insanely demanding so that ordinary parts aren't good enough, and they only feel comfortable with what they perceive to be high-end premium gear (heaven forbid that distortion should be introduced somewhere along the line).Capacitors and resistors are usually rated +/- 10% so if you get one that's on the high end and one on the low end that's a big difference and could be audible, assuming you're actually using them to the limit, hand matching pairs (for left/right channel) takes time and will significantly add to the price. Do you also need to pay more than double for copper foil over tin in your capacitor, or 12.5x tin for silver? Probably not :p
Why do people pay many dollars per foot for "wire" ? ....
audiophiles are just willing to pay
dat crossover
dat crossover
It ain't purty, that's for sure, but does it actually matter?
I have the Monitor 30s in my guest bedroom and they are pretty good. I haven't opened them up, but I suppose they look about the same inside.
https://www.klippel.de/listeningtest/?v=3
I'm just gonna leave that here. It's a nice way to figure out how much money you can save while shopping for hifi products.
got -12 on the test, don't really understand the meaning though, does that mean we only need only -12db distortion on the chain ?