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Title: SpaceShift (Thumb) effective than NormalSpace (Pinkie)?
Post by: yasuo on Wed, 01 October 2014, 01:03:04
If you never try SpaceShift, this
https://github.com/netsisnok/SpaceShift (https://github.com/netsisnok/SpaceShift)
if you hold space as usual if press it's shift in japan named SandS.cmiiw
>scripts may be poor because only modified, maybe someone can fix or make better :thumb:

After i tried i think effective than capslock or shift pinkie for me ;D
although susceptible also miss type

what do you think?  :rolleyes:

Thanks
Title: Re: SpaceShift (Thumb) effective than NormalSpace (Pinkie)?
Post by: jacobolus on Wed, 01 October 2014, 02:32:35
http://www.google.com/patents/US2369807
(http://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US2369807-0.png)
Title: Re: SpaceShift (Thumb) effective than NormalSpace (Pinkie)?
Post by: JackMills on Wed, 01 October 2014, 03:02:49
I am trying it out right now, and it seems to work out well. I normally never use my left thumb to actuate the space bar, so I am trying to use my left thumb to shift and my right thumb to space. As I almost never use my right pink to shift, I always feel like overdoing my left pink.
At the moment it feels nice and I will continue trying it, if it works out fine for the rest of the day, it could become a keeper.
Title: Re: SpaceShift (Thumb) effective than NormalSpace (Pinkie)?
Post by: yasuo on Wed, 01 October 2014, 03:38:16
http://www.google.com/patents/US2369807
good find :thumb: thought i've find a lot patents japan :-X
I am trying it out right now, and it seems to work out well. I normally never use my left thumb to actuate the space bar, so I am trying to use my left thumb to shift and my right thumb to space. As I almost never use my right pink to shift, I always feel like overdoing my left pink.
At the moment it feels nice and I will continue trying it, if it works out fine for the rest of the day, it could become a keeper.
yup, continue trying  ;D

Title: Re: SpaceShift (Thumb) effective than NormalSpace (Pinkie)?
Post by: JackMills on Wed, 01 October 2014, 04:29:25
Just noticed that if I switch to Colemak (not using AHK, but the provided setup.exe) and then use this script, my .  > key is gone. Or rather it becomes ; :
Very odd, I will try to have a look into that later on.
Title: Re: SpaceShift (Thumb) effective than NormalSpace (Pinkie)?
Post by: yasuo on Wed, 01 October 2014, 04:51:09
Just noticed that if I switch to Colemak (not using AHK, but the provided setup.exe) and then use this script, my .  > key is gone. Or rather it becomes ; :
Very odd, I will try to have a look into that later on.
it's indeed bad scripts i only modify from original :)) maybe you use colemak portable
i hope someone make better :D
Title: Re: SpaceShift (Thumb) effective than NormalSpace (Pinkie)?
Post by: jacobolus on Wed, 01 October 2014, 22:45:23
SpaceFn and SpaceShift all in one:

https://www.google.com/patents/US6198474
(https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/US6198474B1/US06198474-20010306-D00000.png)
Title: Re: SpaceShift (Thumb) effective than NormalSpace (Pinkie)?
Post by: yasuo on Tue, 07 October 2014, 08:23:12
New Scripts by batfink/varsoil
Code: [Select]
;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; 2010-08-27   Initial issuance.
;
; INTRODUCTION
;
; The standard keyboard requires reaching for the two shift keys. This is a
; gesture that moves the fingers from the home row. (Left hand travels off
; the 'A' and right off the ';') and is a different gesture for left vs.
; right keys. The solution is a single shift key, under the spacebar, operated
; by the thumbs. Since the keyboard is fixed, this script is an alternative.
;
; The spacebar continues to behave normally for space key-presses.
; When the spacebar is held down, it behaves as a shift key.
; This also frees up the two shift keys for alternate uses.
;
; Todo/Things I have not figured out yet:
; I would like doubletap-then-hold-on-keydown to initiate a normal
; space auto-repeat.
;
; If spacebar was held for over a half second, then released
; without shifting any key, it should not generate a space. That gesture
; indicates an aborted shift operation, not a space.
;------------------------------------------------------------------------------

; ----------------------------------------------------------------
; Abort spacekey if key was held down for more than 0.5 seconds
; before releasing. (not operational yet.)
; ----------------------------------------------------------------
;~space::
;KeyWait, space, U T1 ; Wait for the space button to be released.
;if  (ErrorLevel = 0) {  ; space was not held too long. A long press indicates an aborted shift, not a space, so ignore.
;   Send {space}
;}
;return

; ----------------------------------------------------------------
; If spacebar didn't modify anything, send a real space keystroke
; upon release.
; ----------------------------------------------------------------
space::
Send {space}
return

space & 1:: Send !
space & 2:: Send @
space & 3:: Send #
space & 4:: Send $
space & 5:: Send {`%}
space & 6:: Send ^
space & 7:: Send &
space & 8:: Send *
space & 9:: Send (
space & 0:: Send )
space & -:: Send _
space & =:: Send +
space & q:: Send Q
space & w:: Send W
space & e:: Send E
space & r:: Send R
space & t:: Send T
space & y:: Send Y
space & u:: Send U
space & i:: Send I
space & o:: Send O
space & p:: Send P
space & [:: Send {`{}
space & ]:: Send {`}}
space & a:: Send A
space & s:: Send S
space & d:: Send D
space & f:: Send F
space & g:: Send G
space & h:: Send H
space & j:: Send J
space & k:: Send K
space & l:: Send L
space & `;:: Send :
space & ':: Send "
space & z:: Send Z
space & x:: Send X
space & c:: Send C
space & v:: Send V
space & b:: Send B
space & n:: Send N
space & m:: Send M
space & ,:: Send <
space & .:: Send >
space & /:: Send ?
space & \:: Send |
return

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