[GB] Noxary X60 V1

[DALExSNAIL]

idk if im ready tbh

[Khers]

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Pretty!

Did you receive the confirmation if what case color should be hard anodized?

I'd like to know this as well

[xondat]

Did you receive the confirmation if what case color should be hard anodized?

I'd like to know this as well

Black will be hard anodized.

[Jemaunji]

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Looking nice!  :thumb:

[xondat]

[romevi]

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Dem milky swotches.

[Khers]

Did you receive the confirmation if what case color should be hard anodized?

I'd like to know this as well

Black will be hard anodized.

Thanks!

Does that mean I have to go back to black? "Luckily" I've got 40-odd hours to make my mind up

[CommonCurt]

Did you receive the confirmation if what case color should be hard anodized?

I'd like to know this as well

Black will be hard anodized.

 

[SixtyLife]

looks damn good xondat

[xondat]

Actually, I'll do it in a way that actually makes sense. There will be two blacks - soft and hard. I am presuming all people that currently want black mean soft, LMK if you want hard anodizing.

[brighenne]

Are you doing the CE as soft or hard, or do we have the option?

[CommonCurt]

I want hard anodizing,  but I also want a grey case.

[wodan]

I want hard anodizing,  but I also want a grey case.

+1

[aaron6301]

Can someone please explain the pro's/con's of soft vs hard? Aside from the different treatments, is one more 'black'? Is soft prone to more wear/discoloration?

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[xondat]

I have to ask the question: is it a utter dealbreaker if there is no hard anodizing?

Can someone please explain the pro's/con's of soft vs hard? Aside from the different treatments, is one more 'black'? Is soft prone to more wear/discoloration?

As far as I know the anodizing is thicker so it's harder to scratch. I'm not too educated on it honestly and I'd be quite happy having no hard anodizing.

[wodan]

I'm fine with what ever anodizing is offered. Would be cool to get the color I want _AND_ try hard anodizing.

[Gatix]

I want hard anodizing,  but I also want a grey case.

+1

I have to ask the question: is it a utter dealbreaker if there is no hard anodizing?

Not really a deal breaker for me. But we've always expected it to be hard anodized

[brighenne]

Can someone please explain the pro's/con's of soft vs hard? Aside from the different treatments, is one more 'black'? Is soft prone to more wear/discoloration?

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Type III is slightly harder and significantly thicker than Type II. Colors for Type III will be much more muted, but black should be equally black between the two if it's coming out of a good shop. Some type II anodizing will come out purplish depending on the dye that's used.

[xondat]

The main reason why hard anodizing was never officially a thing was because I had to switch factory. I still have 1 hard dark gray that's supposed to be coming from yuktsi but I've had to word and it's really disappointing.

There is only one definite way of working this out - please fill this form out. Thanks.

[aaron6301]

Can someone please explain the pro's/con's of soft vs hard? Aside from the different treatments, is one more 'black'? Is soft prone to more wear/discoloration?

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Type III is slightly harder and significantly thicker than Type II. Colors for Type III will be much more muted, but black should be equally black between the two if it's coming out of a good shop. Some type II anodizing will come out purplish depending on the dye that's used.

Thanks for the insight, brig.

While I don't see this as a deal breaker if hard wasn't available, I would ideally opt for hard as the consensus is that its the more durable of the two. With the CE being the flagship board in this lineup, I think the hard option further solidifies the premium feel.

[CommonCurt]

Does the shop that will be producing the cases even offer hard anodizing?

[xondat]

Does the shop that will be producing the cases even offer hard anodizing?

Yes.

[CommonCurt]

Does the shop that will be producing the cases even offer hard anodizing?

Yes.

Okay. Well, I mean it's not a absolute deal breaker if grey isn't available with hard anodizing, but of course I'd really, really prefer it to be.

[Diokhan]

Will there be much color difference in hard and soft anodized dark grey?

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[jeffbolton]

Honestly, I don't think I care. Will there be any visual difference?

[xondat]

This is where we're at at the minute...

Also I'm very tempted to ditch the universal plate and have ANSI or ISO plates (or run the 3 but that'll be even more complicated). The more I work on the plate, the more I come to dislike the ISO cluster. Thoughts everyone? I know the ANSI only plate is what people want so, also, very tempted.

[SixtyLife]

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This is where we're at at the minute...

Also I'm very tempted to ditch the universal plate and have ANSI or ISO plates (or run the 3 but that'll be even more complicated). The more I work on the plate, the more I come to dislike the ISO cluster. Thoughts everyone? I know the ANSI only plate is what people want so, also, very tempted.

yes PLEASE. would love an ANSI plate to avoid the hideous reverse L enter cutout

[CommonCurt]

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This is where we're at at the minute...

Also I'm very tempted to ditch the universal plate and have ANSI or ISO plates (or run the 3 but that'll be even more complicated). The more I work on the plate, the more I come to dislike the ISO cluster. Thoughts everyone? I know the ANSI only plate is what people want so, also, very tempted.

yes PLEASE. would love an ANSI plate to avoid the hideous reverse L enter cutout

+1  :thumb:

[Gatix]

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This is where we're at at the minute...

Also I'm very tempted to ditch the universal plate and have ANSI or ISO plates (or run the 3 but that'll be even more complicated). The more I work on the plate, the more I come to dislike the ISO cluster. Thoughts everyone? I know the ANSI only plate is what people want so, also, very tempted.

Maybe run another survey for this? I'm down for ANSI only

[fendent]

ANSI only thanks 🤔

[maximm]

ISO/WKL only thanks
And an ANSI/WKL Red Alu only thanks

[wodan]

ISO is very important to me.

If you are having issues witi the large cutouts, just get some PCB mount switches for the larger cutouts/stabilized keys. They will align perfectly even without plate guidance. Dropping ISO alltogether would be a big disapointment for me.

Ps: wil the case be compatible with the JDCCarpe plate available through LeandreN's current GB?

[loud_asian]

ISO is very important to me.

If you are having issues witi the large cutouts, just get some PCB mount switches for the larger cutouts/stabilized keys. They will align perfectly even without plate guidance. Dropping ISO alltogether would be a big disapointment for me.

This whole ANSI cutout only debate is completely about aesthetics, not about functionality.

Frankly, it doesn't bother me, having large cut outs. It's not like you'll be looking at the board without keycaps anyways

[Danboard]

Definitely ANSI only!

[SixtyLife]

ISO is very important to me.

If you are having issues witi the large cutouts, just get some PCB mount switches for the larger cutouts/stabilized keys. They will align perfectly even without plate guidance. Dropping ISO alltogether would be a big disapointment for me.

This whole ANSI cutout only debate is completely about aesthetics, not about functionality.

Frankly, it doesn't bother me, having large cut outs. It's not like you'll be looking at the board without keycaps anyways

there's better functionality as well, as ansi only or iso only plates allow for the enter switch to clip into the plate for additional support and stability

[wodan]

I adressed that concern in the post you quoted. That affects almost the whole bottom row as well as right shift and split backspace cutouts.

[SixtyLife]

I adressed that concern in the post you quoted. That affects almost the whole bottom row as well as right shift and split backspace cutouts.

it doesn't affect the bottom row nor the right shift/backspace cutouts, as switch housing clips in at the top and bottom, not on the sides. even if one goes with pcb mount, there is inconsistencies in peg thickness which can cause switches to be slightly rotated without plate support.

[SixtyLife]

ISO is very important to me.

If you are having issues witi the large cutouts, just get some PCB mount switches for the larger cutouts/stabilized keys. They will align perfectly even without plate guidance. Dropping ISO alltogether would be a big disapointment for me.

Ps: wil the case be compatible with the JDCCarpe plate available through LeandreN's current GB?

x60 uses a proprietary plate, you won't be able to use any universal plates with it

[loud_asian]

ISO is very important to me.

If you are having issues witi the large cutouts, just get some PCB mount switches for the larger cutouts/stabilized keys. They will align perfectly even without plate guidance. Dropping ISO alltogether would be a big disapointment for me.

This whole ANSI cutout only debate is completely about aesthetics, not about functionality.

Frankly, it doesn't bother me, having large cut outs. It's not like you'll be looking at the board without keycaps anyways

there's better functionality as well, as ansi only or iso only plates allow for the enter switch to clip into the plate for additional support and stability

you got me, ansi only plate it is

[aaron6301]

I'd prefer ansi only for the two plates in my order

[wodan]

Not sure which PCB mount switches are giving you alignment issues but I've been using harvested Cherry MX switches in all non-1u cutouts for a few builds now with great results and I am very concerned with switch alignment. Cutouts that allow either one stabilized or two non-stabilized keys generally provide insufficient guidance for plate mount switches if you ask me. The stabilizer spacing just leaves half a switch free. Same with bottom row and multiple space bar stabilizer options.

[loud_asian]

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This is where we're at at the minute...

Also I'm very tempted to ditch the universal plate and have ANSI or ISO plates (or run the 3 but that'll be even more complicated). The more I work on the plate, the more I come to dislike the ISO cluster. Thoughts everyone? I know the ANSI only plate is what people want so, also, very tempted.

I think we can stop arguing whether or not we should have ansi or iso plates only. It sounds like xondat plans on running the two concurrently

[SixtyLife]

Not sure which PCB mount switches are giving you alignment issues but I've been using harvested Cherry MX switches in all non-1u cutouts for a few builds now with great results and I am very concerned with switch alignment. Cutouts that allow either one stabilized or two non-stabilized keys generally provide insufficient guidance for plate mount switches if you ask me. The stabilizer spacing just leaves half a switch free. Same with bottom row and multiple space bar stabilizer options.

it's not just the switch, there are inconsistencies in the peg hole sizes of pcbs. GON nerd60 pcbs tend to have larger peg holes than FaceW for example. I've also noticed that newer cherry switches and zealios tend to have thicker pegs than vintage cherry switches. one of my builds mixed vintage pcb mount cherry switches with nerd 60 pcb and the side pegs were too skinny to even hold the switches in place and definitely failed to keep switches in alignment without a plate

[wodan]

it's not just the switch, there are inconsistencies in the peg hole sizes of pcbs. GON nerd60 pcbs tend to have larger peg holes than FaceW for example. I've also noticed that newer cherry switches and zealios tend to have thicker pegs than vintage cherry switches. one of my builds mixed vintage pcb mount cherry switches with nerd 60 pcb and the side pegs were too skinny to even hold the switches in place and definitely failed to keep switches in alignment without a plate

This worked great for me on Leeku1800, b.face, JD45, OLKB, oddforge PCBs so far. Still have some GON60 PCB waiting to be built from last LeandreN round so I don't have any experience with them yet.

If PCB mount switches fall out of your PCB you might want to report that to the designer/manufacturer. Maybe it's become too unpopular to do PCB mount builds for PCB designers to care but for stabilized keys and multi-layout plates they have become very important to me.

I mean if there's going to be ANY plate with ISO support I am fine. Dropping it now in a majority vote would be a major kick in my face though, that's what I was worried about. See comments above more as a "Use PCB mount switches for any cutout >1u" statement than an ISO vs. ANSI plate argument.

[SixtyLife]

it's not just the switch, there are inconsistencies in the peg hole sizes of pcbs. GON nerd60 pcbs tend to have larger peg holes than FaceW for example. I've also noticed that newer cherry switches and zealios tend to have thicker pegs than vintage cherry switches. one of my builds mixed vintage pcb mount cherry switches with nerd 60 pcb and the side pegs were too skinny to even hold the switches in place and definitely failed to keep switches in alignment without a plate

This worked great for me on Leeku1800, b.face, JD45, OLKB, oddforge PCBs so far. Still have some GON60 PCB waiting to be built from last LeandreN round so I don't have any experience with them yet.

If PCB mount switches fall out of your PCB you might want to report that to the designer/manufacturer. Maybe it's become too unpopular to do PCB mount builds for PCB designers to care but for stabilized keys and multi-layout plates they have become very important to me.

I mean if there's going to be ANY plate with ISO support I am fine. Dropping it now in a majority vote would be a major kick in my face though, that's what I was worried about. See comments above more as a "Use PCB mount switches for any cutout >1u" statement than an ISO vs. ANSI plate argument.

I don't see xondat dropping support for ansi or iso especially after people have made payments with the expectation that the plate will support both. It would just be nice if we got to choose on an individual basis ansi only, iso only, or universal.

[xondat]

To clarify, there would be ANSI or universal, or another option would be ANSI or ISO plates. I'm not dropping ISO support. This is purely an aesthetic decision.

[wodan]

To clarify, there would be ANSI or universal, or another option would be ANSI or ISO plates. I'm not dropping ISO support. This is purely an aesthetic decision.

Phew back to double digit pulse then

If you're offering two options, ANSI _or_ ISO sounds great. People who want to keep it open can still get one of each plate.

[Razer1987]

To clarify, there would be ANSI or universal, or another option would be ANSI or ISO plates. I'm not dropping ISO support. This is purely an aesthetic decision.

By ISO you mean a classic one like a Filco layout, or there will still be support for 1.5 bottom row, split r-shift, stepped caps lock and split backspace ?

Thanks

[Fictiouz]

I'm interested in ANSI with Bottom row that supports HHKB. I'm just looking minimize unnecessary cutouts for my layout, standard HHKB layout.

[effectiveduck]

I would defs prefer an ANSI only plate, looks so much cleaner