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Offline Waves77

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« on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 12:57:38 »
Here I was this morning, camera and screwdriver in hand ready to make a review for you guys and.... the board is totally dead :confused:

It worked fine last night, and earlier this morning, now it's not responding at all. Tried different usb ports, another computer, rebooting, using the ps2 adapter and plugging it in that way. No dice. I hadn't done anything to the keyboard (in the sense of taking it apart, etc), it was sitting on my desk where I had been just typing away on it since Thursday evening.

I guess we'll find out how good ergogeek's customer service is...

I opened the board to see if any of the wiring had become loose, but everything checks out fine. I didn't see any of the soldering problems that other users had reported btw.

Annoyances about this board are that the screws being used to hold it together are low quality and were a pain to remove. The little rubber feet underneath the keyboard were misaligned. Not a big deal in my book, as it didn't really influence how it sits on my desk at all.

I also found a weird small piece of paper inside the board. Quality control doesn't seem to be doing a great job. The board comes without a plastic bag around it in the box, and since the foam they use is low quality as well, the first thing I had to do was to blow out all kind of foam chunks (including a larger one that would blocking my left shift key).

None the less, I think the all around build quality of the board is pretty decent, and the weight is at least heavier than your average rubber dome board.

Most importantly, the blue cherries are a joy to use. Clicky, but more silent than a model M, and also a lot lighter. I think both the tactile and auditory feedback you get from pressing a key is fabulous. Right now I would prefer them over buckling springs (but that's also the mood I'm in right now) - but I would have to spend more time with them before I could really give a definitive answer to that.

I did record a soundbit for you guys that I'll post as soon iMav enables the right attachments upload (I guess we are still trying to decide which one in the other thread).

I took some pictures, but they look like crap. I'll reshoot them if anybody really really wants to see anything specific. I'd like to wait to see how the situation is resolved before I put more effort into this board. We might just have to look into the Das line for blue cherries (unfortunately at a much higher price tag).

Last interesting little tidbit of information: some of the keys are aligned lower than avarage (I imagine to aid touch typing), specifically the delete & end, and the entire lower keys (ctrl, win-key, alt, spacebar). For the protuberances used on the F and J keys used for finding the home row, the one on the F is slightly thicker and higher.

I'll keep you guys posted and will post the sound clip asap.
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« Reply #1 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 13:10:01 »
Just curious. Does the keyboard have a ps/2 connector or USB? What OS are you using. I am assuming you rebooted the computer just to be sure....

I find it odd that the keyboard would just be dead......

I did a google search for the Scorpius M10 and the first hit was for Amazon. There are 3 reviews there, none of them any good.
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« Reply #2 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 13:14:02 »
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Just curious. Does the keyboard have a ps/2 connector or USB?


It's a usb connector and it includes a usb->ps/2 adapter.

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What OS are you using.


PCLinuxOS and Ubuntu (desktop and thinkpad).

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I am assuming you rebooted the computer just to be sure....


Yeah, both for the usb connector and the ps2.

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I find it odd that the keyboard would just be dead......


That makes two of us... :(
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« Reply #3 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 13:15:20 »
PS:

Dead == no input is received whatsoever (at any bootstage) and none of the leds work.
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« Reply #4 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 13:24:05 »
Damn, don't know what to say on that.

You are running linux, kudos.  Leave the dead M10 plugged in as USB. If you have another USB keboard plug that one in too. Go to the command line and type "lsusb".

I am just curious, you should see the working keyboard. Are you able to see the dead one?
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« Reply #5 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 13:37:58 »
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Leave the dead M10 plugged in as USB. If you have another USB keboard plug that one in too. Go to the command line and type "lsusb".


Yeah, I plugged in an old Sun Type 6 which is recognized without a problem. Besides my mouse, it doesn't show anything else.

Haven't ran anything but Linux at home for at least 3-4 years now (keeps me sane and entertained ;))
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« Reply #6 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 13:45:17 »
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Yeah, I plugged in an old Sun Type 6 which is recognized without a problem. Besides my mouse, it doesn't show anything else.

Haven't ran anything but Linux at home for at least 3-4 years now (keeps me sane and entertained ;))


Ok, if it isn't showing up when you type lsusb then I would be thinking either the usb interface on the PC is bad or the keyboard is bad. In your case, it is looking like the keyboard is the problem. Too bad. Thats disappointing.
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« Reply #7 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 14:39:10 »
As much as I'd like to be a Linux guy, I just don't have any basis of knowledge in it and that cripples me when I try it.

BTW, I had an M10 and I got rid of it right away because it hurt my arms. No other nondome keyboard has ever done that.

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« Reply #8 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 14:49:38 »
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As much as I'd like to be a Linux guy, I just don't have any basis of knowledge in it and that cripples me when I try it.

BTW, I had an M10 and I got rid of it right away because it hurt my arms. No other nondome keyboard has ever done that.


I didn't either when I started using it. I assure the learning curve was quite steep. But that was over 10 years ago.

How would a keyboard hurt your arms?
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« Reply #9 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 14:55:09 »
Wrists, more to the point. It kicked after I had been typing for only an hour which is not long at all for me. For example, yesterday IO spent six hours on my HHKB Lite 1 at work and came home and put in about four hours on my Macally for some real writing with no pain or discomfort.

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« Reply #10 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 14:56:08 »
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As much as I'd like to be a Linux guy, I just don't have any basis of knowledge in it and that cripples me when I try it.


Everything has a learning curve, especially when we are talking about something as complex as an entire OS and the multitude of tools that are available on Linux. Why don't you give Ubuntu a try? Multi-booting is a breeze, pretty much everything can be done through GUI and the forums are very beginner friendly.

I've ran a myriad of distros over the years, but nowadays I prefer something easy and stable like Ubuntu. Get's out of my way when I just need to get work done but also let's me tweak anything that I want and experiment.

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BTW, I had an M10 and I got rid of it right away because it hurt my arms. No other nondome keyboard has ever done that.


How? I actually quite like to form of the M10.
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« Reply #11 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 14:59:54 »
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For example, yesterday IO spent six hours on my HHKB Lite 1 at work...


I have a lite 2 and man, it's one of the most uncomfortable boards I've ever used. I can see how people LOVE the layout - but the feel of it is crap IMO.

I'll have to take the plunge for a Pro 2 at some stage...
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« Reply #12 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 15:00:46 »
And about Linux, I really don't have a reason to switch. I can afford Apple products, the industry I work in is absolutely dominated by Apple and most importantly, I know the OS like the back of my hand.

Hey Pook, are your wife and kids using Linux as well?

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« Reply #13 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 15:02:12 »
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I have a lite 2 and man, it's one of the most uncomfortable boards I've ever used. I can see how people LOVE the layout - but the feel of it is crap IMO.

I had a Lite 2 and sold it for the same reasons. My review of it is in the wiki. The feel of the Lite 1 I have is vastly better. I can't explain it. I have the old school black one without arrow keys.

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« Reply #14 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 15:08:20 »
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And about Linux, I really don't have a reason to switch. I can afford Apple products, the industry I work in is absolutely dominated by Apple and most importantly, I know the OS like the back of my hand.

Hey Pook, are your wife and kids using Linux as well?


I have no children, but yes, my wife uses linux too. I ran through most of the distro's at one time or another and have settled on Ubunut. Its Debian based and works quite well.

If you are happy with Apple then I don't see any reason to switch. I was using Windows and the reasons are legion for switching to another OS. Granted I still use XP at work, but whatever, they are paying me and its the corporate OS of choice. At home its all Linux. My wife likes it over Windows too. I maintain all of the machines anyway, so there is very little that she has to do beyond just using her machine.
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« Reply #15 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 15:14:54 »
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As much as I'd like to be a Linux guy


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And about Linux, I really don't have a reason to switch.


;)

Just for the record, I did buy my wife an iMac and I think it was more than worth the money. I just wasn't willing to put her through the whole Vista Experience :eek: A lot of their stuff is overpriced, but the quality is excellent and the OS truly wonderful (in my limited experience).

For me, I like to build my own boxes, determine exactly what hardware goes in there, have absolute transparency/tweakablity, multiple desktop environments available, TONS of programming and server tools. I know many of these are available on a Mac. but I like the unlimited freedom it gives me.

Plus I can drop Linux on pretty much any hardware and be good to go and in control.

Whenever someone asks me, I tell to buy a Mac if they can afford a little bit extra, run Linux if they don't mind putting in a little bit of work (through forums, etc.) - Windows if they are unwilling to do either (but don't ask me for support ;))
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« Reply #16 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 15:18:28 »
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my wife uses linux too.


Major geek points for that one man! :D

I tried with my wife, but no luck. She's an artist and teacher at a performing arts school, so she's used to Apple all around anyways.
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« Reply #17 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 15:24:31 »
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I had a Lite 2 and sold it for the same reasons. My review of it is in the wiki. The feel of the Lite 1 I have is vastly better. I can't explain it. I have the old school black one without arrow keys.


"It's like at the bottom of each press I'm welcomed by what feels like biting grizzle in a piece of otherwise great steak."

Touché. I should get around selling it on ebay, but it gives me a bad conscience :(

I did get it for a lot less than $70 though (30-something + S&H, NIB).
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« Reply #18 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 15:27:15 »
Yeah, I'm with you.

Another thing to consider is that I use the Adobe suite and Microsoft Word all the time. I doubt I'd find a suitable replacement after using Word forever and CS since it came out. Don't get me wrong, I've used Ubuntu and Kword is pretty fantastic but Gimp is just too hard to learn.

I'd like to run Kword natively in Mac, but I haven't found a port that works.

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« Reply #19 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 15:42:19 »
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Yeah, I'm with you.

Another thing to consider is that I use the Adobe suite and Microsoft Word all the time. I doubt I'd find a suitable replacement after using Word forever and CS since it came out. Don't get me wrong, I've used Ubuntu and Kword is pretty fantastic but Gimp is just too hard to learn.

I'd like to run Kword natively in Mac, but I haven't found a port that works.


I like Abiword a lot as well, it's available for Windows. Supposedly KDE4 applications will be a lot easier to run natively on OSX.
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« Reply #20 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 15:44:03 »
My kids are back on Linux (Ubuntu on thinkpads) after a good 2-3 years on Macs.  My 8 and 6 year olds are very comfortable with both (and can even get around the nasty if they need to).  

The wife is on Mac (she did about a year on Linux about 5 years back, but love OS X)...and I bounce between OS X and Linux pretty regularly.

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« Reply #21 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 17:55:58 »
Actually, there's an alpha already with an OSX installer:
http://www.koffice.org/releases/2.0alpha8-release.php

Shouldn't take much longer for the stable release...
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« Reply #22 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 22:20:09 »
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Major geek points for that one man! :D

I tried with my wife, but no luck. She's an artist and teacher at a performing arts school, so she's used to Apple all around anyways.


Well, it was a bit easier for me. My wife spends most of her time with firefox and thunderbird, we use moneydance for the finance stuff. And thats about it for her.

I am about the same on the desktop. Its the networking/server side stuff that I like to use  that keeps me entertained. I like DNS, DHCP, HTTP, SMTP, MySQL,IMAP, etc....Theres hours of entertainment there, if you are so inclined. : )
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« Reply #23 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 22:47:35 »
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I like Abiword a lot as well, it's available for Windows. Supposedly KDE4 applications will be a lot easier to run natively on OSX.


I try every release of Abiword but it has a couple fatal flaws on Mac - the biggest being that it doesn't always show all the text. This makes it unusable for me. I hope they fix that problem.

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« Reply #24 on: Sat, 14 June 2008, 23:03:10 »
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I try every release of Abiword but it has a couple fatal flaws on Mac - the biggest being that it doesn't always show all the text. This makes it unusable for me. I hope they fix that problem.


LOL, thats pretty much a show stopper.
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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 15 June 2008, 00:13:25 »
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Actually, there's an alpha already with an OSX installer:
http://www.koffice.org/releases/2.0alpha8-release.php

Shouldn't take much longer for the stable release...


Thanks for the tip, I'm downloading it now. I'll tell you how it is.

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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 15 June 2008, 12:21:01 »
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Thanks for the tip, I'm downloading it now. I'll tell you how it is.


No problem, I hope it's stable enough for you :)
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« Reply #27 on: Sun, 15 June 2008, 12:31:06 »
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Well, it was a bit easier for me. My wife spends most of her time with firefox and thunderbird, we use moneydance for the finance stuff. And thats about it for her.


She needs to do all the office and browsing stuff, plus some video and sound editing - for her it was just a lot easier. I think I also scared her b/c I work a lot from the command line...

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I am about the same on the desktop. Its the networking/server side stuff that I like to use  that keeps me entertained. I like DNS, DHCP, HTTP, SMTP, MySQL,IMAP, etc....Theres hours of entertainment there, if you are so inclined. : )


I do mostly backend server development, so I need both all the server tools and the desktop dev tools. I also do video editing and encoding for one project I'm working on (online courseware). Linux is just a lot more fun and saves me tons of money :)
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« Reply #28 on: Mon, 16 June 2008, 09:13:26 »
I've tried to switch to Linux a few times over the years... I mainly just get annoyed. I find that it works great for boxes I don't mess around with, and just need to get doing one thing, but for daily use machines? For me, forget it.

I did switch to Mac OS, though, and haven't looked back. Except when I need something with some power, because my ThinkPad (running XP Tablet) was too new at the time to run the various hacked versions of OS X, and my iBook that I bought just to run OS X is sometimes too slow.

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« Reply #29 on: Mon, 16 June 2008, 09:38:21 »
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...my ThinkPad (running XP Tablet) was too new at the time to run the various hacked versions of OS X, and my iBook that I bought just to run OS X is sometimes too slow.

Sell them both and pick up a Macbook.  ;)

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« Reply #30 on: Mon, 16 June 2008, 10:24:09 »
I don't own the ThinkPad, and it has a 1400x1050 screen that I don't want to give up. ;)

And, I'm not fond of touchpads (although, Apple's are better than most.) But, more importantly, I prefer TrackPoints above all else.

And, I've heard bad things about the MacBook keyboard. The iBook G4 keyboard isn't so hot, either, but I can upgrade to the iBook G3 keyboard.

Really, my ideal machine is a ThinkPad X61s running OS X, with a 1400x1050 screen. (The X61 Tablet is an X61s with a pound more weight strapped to it, for the tablet screen. I don't really use the tablet features on mine.) But, I couldn't get OS X running on my tablet, and an X61s would fail for the same reasons. And, they don't offer the 1400x1050 screen on anything other than the tablet.

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« Reply #31 on: Mon, 16 June 2008, 10:43:12 »
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Actually, there's an alpha already with an OSX installer:
http://www.koffice.org/releases/2.0alpha8-release.php

Shouldn't take much longer for the stable release...


This won't install - it gets almost all the way done and then it says, "Instillation failed."

I'll never find a port that works. At least I still have Word 08.

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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 16 June 2008, 10:54:00 »
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And, I'm not fond of touchpads (although, Apple's are better than most.) But, more importantly, I prefer TrackPoints above all else.
Trackpoints rule.  I don't use the touchpad on my Macbook...I always plug in a Trackman Marble (which is my favorite, external pointing device).

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And, I've heard bad things about the MacBook keyboard.
I really like the keyboards on my Thinkpads...however, I absolutely LOVE the keyboard on the Macbooks.  THE best laptop keyboard I have ever laid hands on.  

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Really, my ideal machine is a ThinkPad X61s running OS X, with a 1400x1050 screen
My ideal laptop would have the macbook keyboard, NO trackpad, a Thinkpad trackpoint, and a WUXGA display.  And, if we're dreaming here, how about a HHKB key layout.  ;)

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« Reply #33 on: Tue, 17 June 2008, 00:16:56 »
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This won't install - it gets almost all the way done and then it says, "Instillation failed."

I'll never find a port that works. At least I still have Word 08.


Bummer man... hope the stable release works for you. If not maybe install a virtualized linux?
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« Reply #34 on: Sun, 29 June 2008, 10:24:24 »
FINAL UPDATE:

I got a full refund (including S&H) from ergogeek. Too bad about the keyboard, but the service was quite good.
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« Reply #35 on: Sun, 29 June 2008, 11:54:33 »
Any idea when you're going to get around to that Filco review?

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« Reply #36 on: Sun, 29 June 2008, 12:04:26 »
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Any idea when you're going to get around to that Filco review?


Quite soon, it's been a lot of work getting the new place I live in cleaned and all that. There's also a project I have to finish before the 1st...

Let me know if there's anything specific you'd like to know!
Current collection:
\'91 Model M (1391401), \'93 1391401, \'91 Model M (industrial 1394946), Dell AT101W, Apple Extended II (M3501), Cherry G84-4100, Filco FKB 104M/EB, Macally 96, Das III Pro, HHKB Pro 2.

Offline Ulysses31

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NON-REVIEW: Scorpius M10
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 29 June 2008, 12:19:13 »
Nothing in particular.  I'm just curious to know how it compares to your other keyboards.  A recording might be nice too but I understand completely that moving from one place to another is a PITA lol.  I had to move twice in the last month of one of my university courses, up and down about twenty floors.  Wasn't a good experience for my back, even with a lift (that's elevator for you americans) - there's only so much you can fit in a lift at once.

Offline lambition

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NON-REVIEW: Scorpius M10
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 02 July 2008, 23:57:38 »
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=201

This may explain why your keyboard stopped working.
Scorpius M10 keyboards are poorly built with nearly no QC.

I'll never recommand this keyboard to anyone unless he is willing to repair new keyboard he just bought. (Which I had to do.)

I thought about getting full refund, but I ended up keeping it, cause I didn't have much money to spare at the time.

Offline Waves77

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NON-REVIEW: Scorpius M10
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 00:12:57 »
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I didn't see any of the soldering problems that other users had reported btw.


Actually the cabling seemed inside fine but the keyboard that quite a bit of flex around cable itself. Regardless of what the problem was, yeah... there's a huge QC problem at iOne. Great board for the price if it works (I imagine at least some of them will be fine), but not worth the hassle.

I'm getting the Das III Pro.
Current collection:
\'91 Model M (1391401), \'93 1391401, \'91 Model M (industrial 1394946), Dell AT101W, Apple Extended II (M3501), Cherry G84-4100, Filco FKB 104M/EB, Macally 96, Das III Pro, HHKB Pro 2.