Post by: Photekq on Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:29:00
GB CANCELLED DUE TO NOT ENOUGH ORDERS
PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE OP & FAQ BEFORE ORDERING OR POSTING QUESTIONS!
If anyone has ANY issues or niggles with the website let me know straight away! I will do my best to sort them out. This is the first time I’ve used this website for a large GB so there may be some small kinks that need to be worked out!
If anyone has ANY issues or niggles with the website let me know straight away! I will do my best to sort them out. This is the first time I’ve used this website for a large GB so there may be some small kinks that need to be worked out!
Please give a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE thank you to HoffmanMyster. He is receiving and shipping all NON-EU orders so that you guys avoid 19% VAT. He is making this a lot cheaper for all of you!
Order RGBK - The perfect set to compliment classic beige (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73626.0)
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After many, many months of waiting it’s finally here - the GMK Classic Beige group buy.
All keys are doubleshot ABS, with the exception of blank keys and a certain few other keys (listed on the website descriptions of the individual sets).
When designing this set I aimed to make it a faithful reproduction of the original Cherry sets, but with added functionality and some previously unseen popular keys. The legends are identical to the original ANSI sets and full A and B profile bottom rows are provided for winkeyless and winkey layouts respectively. No mismatched profiles! ^-^
The sets (see the website for list of keys included)
1. Main set [123pcs]
(http://precision-buys.com/images/123pcs.jpg)
2. Extra set [20pcs]
(http://precision-buys.com/images/20pcs.jpg)
3. L9 Spacebars
(http://precision-buys.com/images/spacebars.jpg)
The prices are as follows :
EU/UK ORDERS
Main set - £82.50 - About €117.50
Extra set - £27.50 - About €39.00
Spacebars - £2 each - About €2.85
NON-EU ORDERS
Main set - £72.50 - About $113.00
Extra set - £22.50 - About $35.00
Spacebars - £2 each - About $3.10
Please see FAQ for explanation of price difference between EU/NON-EU orders!
FAQ
- Q : What is Stripe? Do I need an account to use it? Which countries can I use it from?
A: Stripe is a payment handling service for credit & debit cards similar to Paypal. It means that no card information is stored on my site, and allows everyone to buy with confidence. You don't need an account (just a precision-buys.com account) and you can use it from ANY country so long as you have a supported card! - Q : Can I pay through Paypal?
A : Not currently. There may be a chance for people to pay via Paypal at a later date if there are many people who cannot pay through Stripe. I encourage everyone to pay through Stripe unless they are quite literally unable to as I believe it to be a much better payment method, especially for group buys. If you absolutely cannot use Stripe (to clarify : "cannot", not "would prefer not to") please send me a PM here or an email through the site with the title "Cannot use Stripe" with no text body. This will help me gauge the number of people who cannot use Stripe. - Q : Is your website secure?
A: Our site is perfectly secure. Checkout is done via SSL and we are PCI compliant, however none of your payment information is stored on our server. All payments go through Stripe, which is absolutely secure. Just as secure as Paypal or any other popular payment method. - Q : Why are the sets for EU orders more expensive?
A : The NON-EU orders will be shipped by HoffmanMyster in the USA. Those sets will be shipped directly to him from GMK, and he will pay little to no import duties on them. The EU orders will be shipped by me in the UK. I will have to pay 19% VAT on these sets, hence the higher price for EU orders. However, since EU orders will be shipped from the UK no import VAT/duties will be paid on them. In the end it works out best for everyone, regardless of location. EU and NON-EU orders all end up cheapest this way. - Q : If I pay right away what happens if we don't reach MOQ?
A: You will be refunded completely. Neither party loses a cent with Stripe refunds.
More will be added as questions are asked :)
Disclaimer
Please note that this is a group buy. The items will not be shipped straight away, as they aren’t produced yet. Once the order deadline is reached the sets will be produced and then shipped to us. We will then sort & ship them out as soon as possible! The MOQ is 250 sets. If this is not reached you will be refunded in full.
If the items are lost/damaged in transit we can’t guarantee a replacement. There will be some spare sets, so we will try to replace severely damaged sets, but if the spare sets are depleted I’m afraid not much can be done. We cannot guarantee refunds for lost/damaged sets, since this is a non-profit group buy.
Note for large orders
The shipping is only set for up to a certain number of sets on the website. If you're ordering a large number of sets and the site will not give you a shipping quote please just PM me here or email me through the website. Also, if you are making a fairly large order and have special requests such as tracking & insurance you can contact me too.
Lastly, thank you everyone for your extreme patience. I wanted to make this as perfect as I possibly could, and that required time. Hopefully everything will go smoothly and we’ll hit MOQ in no time.
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:32:58
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:57:59
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:58:43
(https://az545065.vo.msecnd.net/skype-faq-media/faq_content/skype/screenshots/fa12330/emoticons/monkey_80_anim_gif.gif) <- me right now with muh windowed CB!
On a serious note, this is exciting! I am happy to have some nice Classic Beige caps w/ windows. Perfect set right here
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:59:15
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:00:15
Post by: UKKeycaps on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:03:12
Post by: uJalled on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:03:39
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:09:32
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:12:41
Post by: epzy on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:14:29
brb eet baguete
ps im gonan buy 1 set of your GB =)
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:16:50
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:27:06
Everytime I say "I'll put away some money for a new pc, since my current one can't run anything!" then I see a GMK group buy or the hubble mira...
Welp, too late now. I'll put in my order soon...
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:27:44
Gmk is not good for the wallet. Temptation.Put the GMK on the Mira.. ^-^
Everytime I say "I'll put away some money for a new pc, since my current one can't run anything!" then I see a GMK group buy or the hubble mira...
Someone help me.
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:30:00
I'll have 1k worth of keyboard stuff and a $200 laptop...Gmk is not good for the wallet. Temptation.Put the GMK on the Mira.. ^-^
Everytime I say "I'll put away some money for a new pc, since my current one can't run anything!" then I see a GMK group buy or the hubble mira...
Someone help me.
:'(
Post by: 64rky on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:34:40
#22
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:35:10
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:36:16
What's an L9 spacebar?L9 is the colour, the same colour as the alphas of this set :)
Post by: UKKeycaps on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:36:48
What's an L9 spacebar?
It's the colour code
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:37:08
I thought it was sized differently. Thanks.What's an L9 spacebar?L9 is the colour, the same colour as the alphas of this set :)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:56:15
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:57:45
GB ends on Smarch 9, 2015.Ugh.. I forgot you guys are backwards... I'll use words in the OP :p
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:59:24
It's the other way around.GB ends on Smarch 9, 2015.Ugh.. I forgot you guys are backwards... I'll use words.
You guys are backwards.
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 04 August 2015, 18:02:54
Or YY/MM/DD if you're feeling adventurous. ;)
Post by: awhitedev on Tue, 04 August 2015, 18:10:19
DD-MM-YY makes more sense anyways.. I don't understand why we must use Month,Day,Year. It makes no sense to me, I for one, favour DD/MM/YY
Or YY/MM/DD if you're feeling adventurous. ;)
You apparently favor the incorrect spelling of "favour" as well :P
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 04 August 2015, 18:16:55
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 18:18:53
And probably "colour" as well.DD-MM-YY makes more sense anyways.. I don't understand why we must use Month,Day,Year. It makes no sense to me, I for one, favour DD/MM/YY
Or YY/MM/DD if you're feeling adventurous. ;)
You apparently favor the incorrect spelling of "favour" as well
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 04 August 2015, 18:20:12
It's not my fault, I remember spelling it that way since I could first read and write.And probably "colour" as well.DD-MM-YY makes more sense anyways.. I don't understand why we must use Month,Day,Year. It makes no sense to me, I for one, favour DD/MM/YY
Or YY/MM/DD if you're feeling adventurous. ;)
You apparently favor the incorrect spelling of "favour" as well
Maybe it's the gallons of tea that I consume... Or would it be liters?
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 04 August 2015, 18:25:29
ISO 8601 was published on 06/05/88 and most recently amended on 12/01/04.
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 18:26:24
And for lunch you can eat a Royale with Cheese from McDonald's.It's not my fault, I remember spelling it that way since I could first read and write.And probably "colour" as well.DD-MM-YY makes more sense anyways.. I don't understand why we must use Month,Day,Year. It makes no sense to me, I for one, favour DD/MM/YY
Or YY/MM/DD if you're feeling adventurous. ;)
You apparently favor the incorrect spelling of "favour" as well
Maybe it's the gallons of tea that I consume... Or would it be liters?
Post by: joey on Tue, 04 August 2015, 18:27:43
Will place an order soon.
Post by: rpeterclark on Tue, 04 August 2015, 18:54:03
Post by: 3Love on Tue, 04 August 2015, 19:01:22
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 04 August 2015, 19:21:54
DD-MM-YY makes more sense anyways.. I don't understand why we must use Month,Day,Year. It makes no sense to me, I for one, favour DD/MM/YY
Or YY/MM/DD if you're feeling adventurous. ;)
YYYY/MM/DD makes the most sense to me, but MM-DD-YY is my default way to parse date.. So my first reaction to 13/09 :eek: :eek:
Post by: luckyryan333 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 19:24:48
Gonna place an order Soon™
Post by: ileben on Tue, 04 August 2015, 19:30:07
Post by: romevi on Tue, 04 August 2015, 20:01:02
Post by: shower_king on Tue, 04 August 2015, 20:13:46
in ,for 2
Post by: ATXTider on Tue, 04 August 2015, 20:16:43
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 04 August 2015, 20:22:46
Damn, dem prices are cheap!Damn exchange rates!
Post by: romevi on Tue, 04 August 2015, 20:23:45
Coming from America, I can see how DD-MM-YYYY makes more sense, yet it still confuses me.
Post by: shawn o on Tue, 04 August 2015, 20:45:05
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 04 August 2015, 20:49:52
Why do we need to deal with the exchange rate and UK dollars?
Because the person organizing the group buy is located in the UK...
You really don't even need to deal with GBP anyway. He converted it to USD for you.
Show Image(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/iso_8601.png)
ISO 8601 was published on 06/05/88 and most recently amended on 12/01/04.
This is always the best way to do it. :thumb:
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 04 August 2015, 21:07:24
Post by: bueller on Tue, 04 August 2015, 21:21:25
Post by: mason on Tue, 04 August 2015, 21:41:13
Post by: luckyryan333 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 22:00:53
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 05 August 2015, 00:23:28
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 05 August 2015, 00:35:13
This GB should be a walk in the park - classic beige is just too beautiful.
I will place my order later today as soon as I am back home from work :thumb:
Post by: skuko on Wed, 05 August 2015, 00:35:20
Post by: MiTo on Wed, 05 August 2015, 01:54:17
Given the quality standards of GMK, the colors that were chosen and the icons in general, I'm pretty sure that this project has potential to become one of the most legendary keysets of all time. I'm extremely excited to see this, it is better than Olivetti. Photekq, or whoever designed the keyset, made an incredible job because I'm seeing one of the most classic and iconic color schemes being reborn. I've been waiting to see something like this for years.
That old school Windows logo keycap is absolutely beautiful.
To me, this GB is a golden chance. I strongly recommend everyone who like vintage stuff to join the buy right away. I guarantee that anyone who miss this group buy will regret big big time.
Such color scheme is a bless to the 60% and 75% layouts and it fits incredibly well in both white and black cases - that normally come with Pokers and Keycools, for example.
Congratulations, because you did one heck of a job recreating this classic, Photokeq. Also, Hoffman, thank you for making this thing affordable to everyone, nicely done.
My only concern, Photokeq, is that the |\ U9 colored keycap is not included in the Base Set. This is forcing people who like symmetry, like me, to buy the
Because of the the
Nevertheless, what an incredible project.
Godspeed.
EDIT: I thought that the Extra Set was priced at $20 but it is actually $35.
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 05 August 2015, 02:07:00
Post by: SixtyLife on Wed, 05 August 2015, 02:08:27
This is one of the most beautiful keysets that I have ever seen.
Given the quality standards of GMK, the colors that were chosen and the icons in general, I'm pretty sure that this project has potential to become one of the most legendary keysets of all time. I'm extremely excited to see this, it is better than Olivetti. Photekq, or whoever designed the keyset, made an incredible job because I'm seeing one of the most classic and iconic color schemes being reborn. I've been waiting to see something like this for years.
That old school Windows logo keycap is absolutely beautiful.
To me, this GB is a golden chance. I strongly recommend everyone who like vintage stuff to join the buy right away. I guarantee that anyone who miss this group buy will regret big big time.
Such color scheme is a bless to the 60% and 75% layouts and it fits incredibly well in both white and black cases - that normally come with Pokers and Keycools, for example.
Congratulations, because you did one heck of a job recreating this classic, Photokeq. Also, Hoffman, thank you for making this thing affordable to everyone, nicely done.
My only concern, Photokeq, is that the |\ U9 colored keycap is not included in the Base Set. This is forcing people who like symmetry, like me, to buy the$20$35 pack just to get a single keycap. The |\ keycap definitely should be included in the Base Set, so people don't spend more than they need to. In my case, this is a deal breaker.
Because of the the$20$35 for the U9 |\ keycap, I will sadly skip this one.
Again, congratulations. This is just fantastic.
Godspeed.
Wouldn't make sense to raise base price for everyone just so you can have that one key. Most people don't care for it which is why it's in the extra pack.
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 05 August 2015, 02:13:17
I forget - this is going to be pre-sorted by GMK but comes in ziplock bags instead of trays, correct?
Pretty sure I read that is what's happening.
Post by: trizkut on Wed, 05 August 2015, 02:13:18
This is one of the most beautiful keysets that I have ever seen.
Given the quality standards of GMK, the colors that were chosen and the icons in general, I'm pretty sure that this project has potential to become one of the most legendary keysets of all time. I'm extremely excited to see this, it is better than Olivetti. Photekq, or whoever designed the keyset, made an incredible job because I'm seeing one of the most classic and iconic color schemes being reborn. I've been waiting to see something like this for years.
That old school Windows logo keycap is absolutely beautiful.
To me, this GB is a golden chance. I strongly recommend everyone who like vintage stuff to join the buy right away. I guarantee that anyone who miss this group buy will regret big big time.
Such color scheme is a bless to the 60% and 75% layouts and it fits incredibly well in both white and black cases - that normally come with Pokers and Keycools, for example.
Congratulations, because you did one heck of a job recreating this classic, Photokeq. Also, Hoffman, thank you for making this thing affordable to everyone, nicely done.
My only concern, Photokeq, is that the |\ U9 colored keycap is not included in the Base Set. This is forcing people who like symmetry, like me, to buy the$20$35 pack just to get a single keycap. The |\ keycap definitely should be included in the Base Set, so people don't spend more than they need to. In my case, this is a deal breaker.
Because of the the$20$35 for the U9 |\ keycap, I will sadly skip this one.
Again, congratulations. This is just fantastic.
Godspeed.
Wouldn't make sense to raise base price for everyone just so you can have that one key. Most people don't care for it which is why it's in the extra pack.
There's bound to be someone who gets an extras pack that doesn't give a damn about symmetry.
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 05 August 2015, 02:19:02
MoreThis is one of the most beautiful keysets that I have ever seen.
Given the quality standards of GMK, the colors that were chosen and the icons in general, I'm pretty sure that this project has potential to become one of the most legendary keysets of all time. I'm extremely excited to see this, it is better than Olivetti. Photekq, or whoever designed the keyset, made an incredible job because I'm seeing one of the most classic and iconic color schemes being reborn. I've been waiting to see something like this for years.
That old school Windows logo keycap is absolutely beautiful.
To me, this GB is a golden chance. I strongly recommend everyone who like vintage stuff to join the buy right away. I guarantee that anyone who miss this group buy will regret big big time.
Such color scheme is a bless to the 60% and 75% layouts and it fits incredibly well in both white and black cases - that normally come with Pokers and Keycools, for example.
Congratulations, because you did one heck of a job recreating this classic, Photokeq. Also, Hoffman, thank you for making this thing affordable to everyone, nicely done.
My only concern, Photokeq, is that the |\ U9 colored keycap is not included in the Base Set. This is forcing people who like symmetry, like me, to buy the$20$35 pack just to get a single keycap. The |\ keycap definitely should be included in the Base Set, so people don't spend more than they need to. In my case, this is a deal breaker.
Because of the the$20$35 for the U9 |\ keycap, I will sadly skip this one.
Again, congratulations. This is just fantastic.
Godspeed.
Wouldn't make sense to raise base price for everyone just so you can have that one key. Most people don't care for it which is why it's in the extra pack.
Also, symmetry is two keys, not one. It's the |\ and `~ keys. Normally I fight for symmetry, but this is classic beige. Expecting the main set to have everything to make you happy is not realistic.
Post by: FreeChemicals on Wed, 05 August 2015, 02:19:44
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 05 August 2015, 02:37:01
below are the keys I want:
(http://i.imgur.com/6vSJLjh.jpg)
Green: what I want 100% non negociable,
Orange negociable.
Shot me a pm.
I'm ordering one set of each regardless but if I'm trying to save some money because this set is currently costing me 10$/cap.
Post by: MiTo on Wed, 05 August 2015, 02:46:36
Also, symmetry is two keys, not one. It's the |\ and `~ keys. Normally I fight for symmetry, but this is classic beige. Expecting the main set to have everything to make you happy is not realistic.
Symmetry is only the |\ keycap if you consider the 60% layout, because the `~ keycap gets replaced by "Esc" - in such layout. And luckily, the "Esc" keycap is already in U9 on the Base Set.
In this case, I'd say that symmetry matters for 60% users only. If a 60% user don't buy the Extra Set, the modifier column featured on the left side of the keyboard would look perfectly gray, while the right column would be mixed (because the |\ U9 keycap is not included).
To 75% and 100% users this whole thing is not much of a big deal, because like you said this is classic beige and it's perfectly okay to lack symmetry in 75/100% under the classic beige colorscheme - in my opinion.
It was only a suggestion, as I'm predicting a $1,82 rise in the Base Set if both |\ and `~ get added. Many people care about symmetry and it would be nice to have it for a ~$115 price tag. This is a high end keyset and in my opinion it would be good to have everything as compact and cost-efficient as possible, to everyone.
Let's see what happens, I'm very excited for this even though I'll probably skip it. I'm really looking forward to see the final product!
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 05 August 2015, 02:53:05
I'm looking to arrange a deal with someone that won't be using the same caps than I will,
below are the keys I want:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6vSJLjh.jpg)
Green: what I want 100% non negociable,
Orange negociable.
Shot me a pm.
I'm ordering one set of each regardless but if I'm trying to save some money because this set is currently costing me 10$/cap.
As a ISO user didn't you forget to put in green the ISO enter key?
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 05 August 2015, 02:57:42
I'm looking to arrange a deal with someone that won't be using the same caps than I will,
below are the keys I want:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6vSJLjh.jpg)
Green: what I want 100% non negociable,
Orange negociable.
Shot me a pm.
I'm ordering one set of each regardless but if I'm trying to save some money because this set is currently costing me 10$/cap.
As a ISO user didn't you forget to put in green the ISO enter key?
No I'm not because it's wrong legend, it's "Enter" instead of the french one "Entrée". That's also the reason I'm not taking the ISO shift and other caps.
Making expections for caps that don't exist or are too hard to find in original sets , like windowed caps.
I'm
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 05 August 2015, 03:00:50
I'm looking to arrange a deal with someone that won't be using the same caps than I will,
below are the keys I want:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6vSJLjh.jpg)
Green: what I want 100% non negociable,
Orange negociable.
Shot me a pm.
I'm ordering one set of each regardless but if I'm trying to save some money because this set is currently costing me 10$/cap.
As a ISO user didn't you forget to put in green the ISO enter key?
No I'm not because it's wrong legend, it's "Enter" instead of the french one "Entrée". That's also the reason I'm not taking the ISO shift and other caps.
Making expections for caps that don't exist or are too hard to find in original sets , like windowed caps.
I'm
How are you doing then? Because it is a QWERTY set. Do you intend on mixing the row profile to get a pseudo AZERTY? How about the ISO enter? Do you have a bag of spare ISO key? :D
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 05 August 2015, 03:05:31
I'm looking to arrange a deal with someone that won't be using the same caps than I will,
below are the keys I want:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6vSJLjh.jpg)
Green: what I want 100% non negociable,
Orange negociable.
Shot me a pm.
I'm ordering one set of each regardless but if I'm trying to save some money because this set is currently costing me 10$/cap.
As a ISO user didn't you forget to put in green the ISO enter key?
No I'm not because it's wrong legend, it's "Enter" instead of the french one "Entrée". That's also the reason I'm not taking the ISO shift and other caps.
Making expections for caps that don't exist or are too hard to find in original sets , like windowed caps.
I'm
How are you doing then? Because it is a QWERTY set. Do you intend on mixing the row profile to get a pseudo AZERTY? How about the ISO enter? Do you have a bag of spare ISO key? :D
The keys that aren't circled won't be used they'll gather dust in closet. I'm buying set to accomodate some layout my Original azerty can't do : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43865.msg1810344#msg1810344
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 05 August 2015, 03:46:39
My only concern, Photokeq, is that the |\ U9 colored keycap is not included in the Base Set. This is forcing people who like symmetry, like me, to buy the$20$35 Extra Set just to get a single keycap. The |\ keycap definitely should be included in the Base Set, so people don't spend more than they need to. In my case, this is a deal breaker.
Because of the the$20$35 for the U9 |\ keycap, I will sadly skip this one.
Nevertheless, what an incredible project.
Godspeed.
EDIT: I thought that the Extra Set was priced at $20 but it is actually $35.
There is absolutely no chance Photekq will change the kits at this point. He has put much thought into them and I think he came up with the gold standard for GMK GBs. In my opinion all future color ways should be done this way!
The idea behind the extra kit is that people who want special keys like ISO, windowed caps or symmetry caps subsidize each other. Otherwise such a set will never hit MOQ.
The truth is if you don't wanna spend 35$ to get the perfect set for you, you don't want it enough ;)
I think you should just team up with someone who doesn't care for symmetry and just needs the ISO keys or whatever :thumb:
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 05 August 2015, 03:54:12
I think he came up with the gold standard for GMK GBs. In my opinion all future color ways should be done this way!
+1 100%
Post by: luckyryan333 on Wed, 05 August 2015, 04:22:16
I think you should just team up with someone who doesn't care for symmetry and just needs the ISO keys or whatever :thumb:
+1 100%
Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 05 August 2015, 05:51:51
The exchange rate is really bad at the moment no matter what currency, otherwise I would have jumped on this without hesitation.
It will probably have to be another last minute close my eyes and just click "BUY" in the last few hours before the deadline. I did the same with GMK Hyperfuse.
Post by: awhitedev on Wed, 05 August 2015, 06:06:10
Now, for those who don't know or didn't read the OP thoroughly enough... You should buy the complimenting RGB modifier set. Let's make this combination a reality!
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73626.0
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 August 2015, 06:36:59
My only concern, Photokeq, is that the |\ U9 colored keycap is not included in the Base Set. This is forcing people who like symmetry, like me, to buy theHere's the thing.. Many of the keys in the extra set are very popular keys, such as 1.75 shift and windowed lock keys. I could've added them to the main set and nobody would've complained about the extra cost. However, I put them in the extra set to make it more appealing and to keep the main set very barebones. So that the extra set would get more orders, and so that less popular keys would be able to become a reality. U9 symmetry keys definitely fall under 'less popular' in my eyes.$20$35 Extra Set just to get a single keycap. The |\ keycap definitely should be included in the Base Set, so people don't spend more than they need to. In my case, this is a deal breaker.
Thank you for your compliments.
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 August 2015, 06:49:06
1. Sorry if any exchange rates are bad. I looked around at various foreign cards and they seemed very acceptable for 'selling' your home currency (i.e buying this set). I think the worst I found was about $120 for the main set. Still a good price imo. If I did things in $ the exchange rates would be bad for everyone else.
2. I'm incredibly surprised about this.. The extra set actually has more orders than the main set.
3. Fixed 2 errors with the shipping module. Everything should be good now.
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 05 August 2015, 07:05:32
2. I'm incredibly surprised about this.. The extra set actually has more orders than the main set.
I guess people want to use it for their vintage cherry sets ;)
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 August 2015, 07:18:23
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Post by: Blackhawk on Wed, 05 August 2015, 08:27:39
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 05 August 2015, 09:06:26
In for 2 full sets and 2 mods!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 August 2015, 09:15:35
I forget - this is going to be pre-sorted by GMK but comes in ziplock bags instead of trays, correct?
This is correct. It should be a relatively speedy turnaround. :thumb:
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 05 August 2015, 10:01:37
and safe shipping!I forget - this is going to be pre-sorted by GMK but comes in ziplock bags instead of trays, correct?
This is correct. It should be a relatively speedy turnaround. :thumb:
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 05 August 2015, 10:02:52
less work for you too! win win win!I forget - this is going to be pre-sorted by GMK but comes in ziplock bags instead of trays, correct?
This is correct. It should be a relatively speedy turnaround. :thumb:
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 August 2015, 10:08:03
Just wanted to say that those who order first will have their orders shipped out first. Order ASAP!
Post by: filphil on Wed, 05 August 2015, 10:09:56
Just a note to everyone.. I understand that since this is pay as you order, rather than put your name down on a form and get invoiced after, a lot of people will hold out until the end.
Just wanted to say that those who order first will have their orders shipped out first. Order ASAP!
It's not a question of when I want to order. It's how much money can I get/spare by the deadline for extra sets.
Post by: evolveS on Wed, 05 August 2015, 10:23:48
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 August 2015, 10:31:54
Ordered. Stoked to finally ditch my SP moogle kit and get the hhkb layout in beige.
Yeah, I just want a moogle kit! I have so many beige Cherry sets...
I will pick up one set, though, toward the end.
Post by: skuko on Wed, 05 August 2015, 10:38:41
Post by: MiTo on Wed, 05 August 2015, 11:02:32
There's absolutely no chance Photekq will change the kits at this point. He has put much thought into them and I think he came up with the gold standard for GMK GBs. In my opinion all future color ways should be done this way!
The idea behind the extra kit is that people who want special keys like ISO, windowed caps or symmetry caps subsidize each other. Otherwise such a set will never hit MOQ.
The truth is if you don't wanna spend 35$ to get the perfect set for you, you don't want it enough ;)
I think you should just team up with someone who doesn't care for symmetry and just needs the ISO keys or whatever :thumb:
It was just a suggestion, I'm not asking him to change anything - I only made a suggestion regarding keycap distribution, logistically speaking because of my own experience, and it's up to him wether he will accept the suggestion or not. As I already said, every keyset offers the symmetry pack in the Base Set so people don't need to spend extra money on useless keycaps. I'm a 60% standard user, I don't need stepped keycaps nor windowed keys nor non standard sized keycaps. I'm okay with buying the useless to me numpad to chop down costs to all of the 100% users, but unfortunately, I can't "donate" R$131,40 in my local currency to the cause (for the Extra Set to get made) in exchange of a single doubleshot gray keycap - even though I really wanted to join the Group Buy and share costs with everyone here. Sadly R$131,40 is just too much for me.
Photekq explained why he decided to not include such keycaps in the Base Set and I comprehend his point entirely, even though I strongly disagree.
Making this division to propel the sales of the Extra Set is a bad move in my opinion. Maybe, it will prevent other people from buying the set, because 60% users who like symmetry will pay $35 for a single 2shot keycap. Not to mention that hundreds of non standard keycaps will be kept in drawers - but I'm extremely happy to see that this is not a deal breaker to many people and everyone is joining the buy! This is a high end keyset and if you really can afford everything without worries, regardless of the price, well that's a bless! One day I will have money to fund my hobbies without a financial limitation, but I gotta graduate first.
Photekq said that there are more orders for the Extra Set than the Base Set, so you can see that there's no reason for the symmetry keycaps to be out of the Base Set.
This whole deal is a logistic failure to me, as the costs wouldn't rise to a relevant level and the number of sales of the Extra Set wouldn't be affected. It is not justified because every set offers symmetry on the... Well, Base Set which is called Base Set for a reason. You get the basic keycaps you need to achieve a good luck, for a reasonably balanced amount of money.
Nevertheless I'm really looking forward to the keyset. It is incredibly cute and I'm super excited to see the final product!
Again, Photekq, congratulations for the design!
PS: If there's anyone interested in parting ways with their symmetry keycaps from the Extra Set, shoot me a PM. I'd gladly proportionally share the costs and ship you snacks from Brazil.
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 05 August 2015, 11:10:57
There's absolutely no chance Photekq will change the kits at this point. He has put much thought into them and I think he came up with the gold standard for GMK GBs. In my opinion all future color ways should be done this way!
The idea behind the extra kit is that people who want special keys like ISO, windowed caps or symmetry caps subsidize each other. Otherwise such a set will never hit MOQ.
The truth is if you don't wanna spend 35$ to get the perfect set for you, you don't want it enough ;)
I think you should just team up with someone who doesn't care for symmetry and just needs the ISO keys or whatever :thumb:
It was just a suggestion, I'm not asking him to change anything - I only made a suggestion regarding keycap distribution, logistically speaking because of my own experience, and it's up to him wether he will accept the suggestion or not. As I already said, every keyset offers the symmetry pack in the Base Set so people don't need to spend extra money on useless keycaps. I'm a 60% standard user, I don't need stepped keycaps nor windowed keys nor non standard sized keycaps. I'm okay with buying the useless to me numpad to chop down costs to all of the 100% users, but unfortunately, I can't "donate" R$131,40 in my local currency to the cause (for the Extra Set to get made) in exchange of a single doubleshot gray keycap - even though I really wanted to join the Group Buy and share costs with everyone here. Sadly R$131,40 is just too much for me.
Photekq explained why he decided to not include such keycaps in the Base Set and I comprehend his point entirely, even though I strongly disagree.
Making this division to propel the sales of the Extra Set is a bad move in my opinion. Maybe, it will prevent other people from buying the set, because 60% users who like symmetry will pay $35 for a single 2shot keycap. Not to mention that hundreds of non standard keycaps will be kept in drawers - but I'm extremely happy to see that this is not a deal breaker to many people and everyone is joining the buy! This is a high end keyset and if you really can afford everything without worries, regardless of the price, well that's a bless! One day I will have money to fund my hobbies without a financial limitation, but I gotta graduate first.
Photekq said that there are more orders for the Extra Set than the Base Set, so you can see that there's no reason for the symmetry keycaps to be out of the Base Set.
This whole deal is a logistic failure to me, as the costs wouldn't rise to a relevant level and the number of sales of the Extra Set wouldn't be affected. It is not justified because every set offers symmetry on the... Well, Base Set which is called Base Set for a reason. You get the basic keycaps you need to achieve a good luck, for a reasonably balanced amount of money.
Nevertheless I'm really looking forward to the keyset. It is incredibly cute and I'm super excited to see the final product!
Again, Photekq, congratulations for the design!
PS: If there's anyone interested in parting ways with their symmetry keycaps from the Extra Set, shoot me a PM. I'd gladly proportionally share the costs and ship you snacks from Brazil.
As if symmetry was the reason people buy more Extra Set than base.
What attract people to buy the extra set is :
1/Windowed caps
2/HHKB
3/ISO
4/75% & symmetry
in that order.
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 05 August 2015, 11:11:34
Post by: Blackhawk on Wed, 05 August 2015, 11:18:01
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 August 2015, 11:28:11
The point of the extra kit is to help keys that usually would not reach MOQ reach the MOQ :
1u backspace
1u \|
1.5u backspace
R3 Controls
Home/End for 75%
R5 Caps lock
Symmetry keys
If the extra kit were made up of those keys alone I seriously doubt it would reach MOQ. So, I moved some insanely popular (but not necessary for standard keyboard layouts) keys from the main set to the extra set. Windowed locks, ISO, 1.75u shift and Fn.
I just think you overestimate the popularity of symmetry keys. They aren't essential. They aren't even the most popular or widely used keys in the extra set, never mind the main set. They're in the right place here.
One other thing you have not considered. Classic Beige is a reproduction of old Cherry sets. There are already tonnes of the original sets out there! However, none of them have symmetry keys. If the symmetry keys were in the main set people who already have the originals would have to spend 3x as much on a main set just to get them. As is, they can just buy the much smaller extra set - it's the perfect 60% conversion kit with the 1.75 shift and Fn key.
Don't think that I'm not happy to hear suggestions for possible future sets, because I am. I just don't agree at all with this particular criticism. I guess we both just have different opinions. Let's leave it at that, shall we?
Post by: jorgenslee on Wed, 05 August 2015, 11:48:40
I'm looking to arrange a deal with someone that won't be using the same caps than I will,
below are the keys I want:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6vSJLjh.jpg)
Green: what I want 100% non negociable,
Orange negociable.
Shot me a pm.
I'm ordering one set of each regardless but if I'm trying to save some money because this set is currently costing me 10$/cap.
As a ISO user didn't you forget to put in green the ISO enter key?
No I'm not because it's wrong legend, it's "Enter" instead of the french one "Entrée". That's also the reason I'm not taking the ISO shift and other caps.
Making expections for caps that don't exist or are too hard to find in original sets , like windowed caps.
I'm
How are you doing then? Because it is a QWERTY set. Do you intend on mixing the row profile to get a pseudo AZERTY? How about the ISO enter? Do you have a bag of spare ISO key? :D
The keys that aren't circled won't be used they'll gather dust in closet. I'm buying set to accomodate some layout my Original azerty can't do : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43865.msg1810344#msg1810344
Interesting. I think, with 1 base set and 2 extras, you can chime in with someone who wants a hhkb layout who is willing to giveup 2 1x windows keys. If only I have funds right now for this set I would have grab it. Anyway, please let me know if how much will you let go the rest of the base set. :)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 August 2015, 11:52:46
It is not justified because every set offers symmetry on the... Well, Base Set which is called Base Set for a reason. You get the basic keycaps you need to achieve a good luck, for a reasonably balanced amount of money.
What "should" be included in the Base Set is opinion, though. I have zero interest in symmetry, but do want HHKB layout, so my ideal base set would have HHKB keys and not the ones you describe. Just because some other buys do it one way does not make it the golden standard, or even the best way.
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 05 August 2015, 11:58:42
Let's hope we reach MOQ soonTM :thumb:
Post by: MiTo on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:02:02
Thanks for your input mito, but it has not swayed me.
The point of the extra kit is to help keys that usually would not reach MOQ reach the MOQ :
1u backspace
1u \|
1.5u backspace
R3 Controls
Home/End for 75%
R5 Caps lock
Symmetry keys
If the extra kit were made up of those keys alone I seriously doubt it would reach MOQ. So, I moved some insanely popular (but not necessary for standard keyboard layouts) keys from the main set to the extra set. Windowed locks, ISO, 1.75u shift and Fn.
I just think you overestimate the popularity of symmetry keys. They aren't essential. They aren't even the most popular or widely used keys in the extra set, never mind the main set. They're in the right place here.
One other thing you have not considered. Classic Beige is a reproduction of old Cherry sets. There are already tonnes of the original sets out there! However, none of them have symmetry keys. If the symmetry keys were in the main set people who already have the originals would have to spend 3x as much on a main set just to get them. As is, they can just buy the much smaller extra set - it's the perfect 60% conversion kit with the 1.75 shift and Fn key.
Don't think that I'm not happy to hear suggestions for possible future sets, because I am. I just don't agree at all with this particular criticism. I guess we both just have different opinions. Let's leave it at that, shall we?
I perfectly comprehend the point of the Extra Set as it is. You believe that symmetry is secondary and you was afraid that it could potentially not meet MOQ if the symmetry caps weren't there. Even though I disagree with the logistic direction you decided to take, I completely comprehend why you did it and I'm honestly happy to see that the Extra Set sold so many unities already. This is fantastic, everyone will get what they need!
I forgot that that there were Cherry reproductions out there already, and you are right because I did not considered this. Makes sense to offer these symmetry keycaps in the Extra Set, so that Cherry reproduction owners don't need to get thet whole Base Set just for symmetry.
A suggestion for the next time: perhaps you could include symmetry keycaps in both Extra and Base sets, so that both groups (reproduction owners and symmetry lovers on a budget) would be covered! I never tried to sway you, it was just a suggestion and I hope you didn't feel criticized in a bad way, as I tried to express my personal concerns and feedback at the same time, so you can improve for the next one.
Best of luck my friend, the keyset is looking hella sharp!
Post by: mbrown559 on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:05:11
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:06:08
But symmetry will always be in the majority and is not useful enough for everyone to have it increase in price for both sets..Thanks for your input mito, but it has not swayed me.
The point of the extra kit is to help keys that usually would not reach MOQ reach the MOQ :
1u backspace
1u \|
1.5u backspace
R3 Controls
Home/End for 75%
R5 Caps lock
Symmetry keys
If the extra kit were made up of those keys alone I seriously doubt it would reach MOQ. So, I moved some insanely popular (but not necessary for standard keyboard layouts) keys from the main set to the extra set. Windowed locks, ISO, 1.75u shift and Fn.
I just think you overestimate the popularity of symmetry keys. They aren't essential. They aren't even the most popular or widely used keys in the extra set, never mind the main set. They're in the right place here.
One other thing you have not considered. Classic Beige is a reproduction of old Cherry sets. There are already tonnes of the original sets out there! However, none of them have symmetry keys. If the symmetry keys were in the main set people who already have the originals would have to spend 3x as much on a main set just to get them. As is, they can just buy the much smaller extra set - it's the perfect 60% conversion kit with the 1.75 shift and Fn key.
Don't think that I'm not happy to hear suggestions for possible future sets, because I am. I just don't agree at all with this particular criticism. I guess we both just have different opinions. Let's leave it at that, shall we?
I perfectly comprehend the point of the Extra Set as it is. You believe that symmetry is secondary and you was afraid that it could potentially not meet MOQ if the symmetry caps weren't there. Even though I disagree with the logistic direction you decided to take, I completely comprehend why you did it and I'm honestly happy to see that the Extra Set sold so many unities already. This is fantastic, everyone will get what they need!
I forgot that that there were Cherry reproductions out there already, and you are right because I did not considered this. Makes sense to offer these symmetry keycaps in the Extra Set, so that Cherry reproduction owners don't need to get thet whole Base Set just for symmetry.
A suggestion for the next time: perhaps you could include symmetry keycaps in both Extra and Base sets, so that both groups (reproduction owners and symmetry lovers on a budget) would be covered! I never tried to sway you, it was just a suggestion and I hope you didn't feel criticized in a bad way, as I tried to express my personal concerns and feedback at the same time, so you can improve for the next one.
Best of luck my friend, the keyset is looking hella sharp!
Post by: LXXXIX on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:08:58
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:10:03
I wish this had 1800 support. :(If we hit 400 orders it will likely be added!
Post by: LXXXIX on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:18:17
I wish this had 1800 support. :(If we hit 400 orders it will likely be added!
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
If it does, damn I will need to start hooking real quick.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:24:19
If it does, damn I will need to start hooking real quick.
Is this some sort of slang? O.o
Post by: pmh1410 on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:35:12
Post by: luckyryan333 on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:38:27
I wish this had 1800 support. :(If we hit 400 orders it will likely be added!
If it happens, let us know it please.
I think lots of 1800 lovers all over the world may hesitate to join this GB because of the absence of 1800 caps.
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:53:53
I wish this had 1800 support. :(If we hit 400 orders it will likely be added!
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Post by: Air tree on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:57:35
By hooking, I think he/she means selling them selves. For money. To strangers. On the street. :))If it does, damn I will need to start hooking real quick.
Is this some sort of slang? O.o
Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 05 August 2015, 13:35:23
I CANNOT buy this because it will not cover my custom inteli 78.3% keyboard.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 August 2015, 13:37:55
By hooking, I think he/she means selling them selves. For money. To strangers. On the street. :))If it does, damn I will need to start hooking real quick.
Is this some sort of slang? O.o
Oh! Haha. That makes sense. I've never heard that form of the word before. :P
This set could have been perfect for me, but I am so saddened to see the lack of 4x spacebar and windowed Alt.
I CANNOT buy this because it will not cover my custom inteli 78.3% keyboard.
lol
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 05 August 2015, 13:38:50
This set could have been perfect for me, but I am so saddened to see the lack of 4x spacebar and windowed Alt.(http://i.imgur.com/TK9zjDF.gif)
I CANNOT buy this because it will not cover my custom inteli 78.3% keyboard.
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 05 August 2015, 13:40:21
This set could have been perfect for me, but I am so saddened to see the lack of 4x spacebar and windowed Alt.
I CANNOT buy this because it will not cover my custom inteli 78.3% keyboard.
lmao
Post by: darkclone24 on Wed, 05 August 2015, 13:41:38
Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 05 August 2015, 13:50:17
So can someone explain something to me? I've noticed this on a couple of GMK sets now: The extra R3 \| key. On a UK ISO layout, this key is R4, as part of the split Left Shift. I can't find an ISO layout where this key is R3 next to the Enter. It'd make more sense to me to have a blank key rather than a wrong key. Does that not make sense? Am I missing something?
It's US ISO - often considered the default or plain vanilla ISO option. Equally wrong for everybody, but at the same time, the best possible option since none of the individual ISO setups could ever hit MOQ.
Post by: njbair on Wed, 05 August 2015, 13:58:20
This set could have been perfect for me, but I am so saddened to see the lack of 4x spacebar and windowed Alt.
I CANNOT buy this because it will not cover my custom inteli 78.3% keyboard.
I cried @ "windowed Alt"
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 August 2015, 14:15:46
(http://i.imgur.com/ilys0Fa.jpg)
Posted a [WTB] thread here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74217.0). Thanks!
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 August 2015, 14:24:17
So can someone explain something to me? I've noticed this on a couple of GMK sets now: The extra R3 \| key. On a UK ISO layout, this key is R4, as part of the split Left Shift. I can't find an ISO layout where this key is R3 next to the Enter. It'd make more sense to me to have a blank key rather than a wrong key. Does that not make sense? Am I missing something?Intelli explained it really well.
It's for US ISO which requires a total of 4 extra keys. Nobody really uses US ISO, but it allows you to fill out an ISO board with this set. The legends will just likely be wrong.
Realistically, we can only hope to fill one type of ISO layout. Alternate legend keys for DE ISO, UK ISO, FR ISO, etc. will not hit MOQ any time soon. The second easiest ISO to do is UK ISO, but that requires a few more than 4 keys to do properly.
Really, the only people having UK ISO benefits is UK ISO users, which is a fairly small group of people. I felt it was best to have US ISO since the number of keys required is smaller, and it is 'equally wrong' for everyone, as intelli said.
I hope this helps.
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 05 August 2015, 14:27:20
Looking to buy keys for 1.25-unit bottom row, if someone plans on using the set solely with WKL keyboards.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ilys0Fa.jpg)
Posted a [WTB] thread here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74217.0). Thanks!
I guess it would be worthwhile to run a separate GB for such a moogle kit.
I mean who doesn't have a vintage cherry set waiting to get used on a modern board?!
Post by: njbair on Wed, 05 August 2015, 14:30:28
So can someone explain something to me? I've noticed this on a couple of GMK sets now: The extra R3 \| key. On a UK ISO layout, this key is R4, as part of the split Left Shift. I can't find an ISO layout where this key is R3 next to the Enter. It'd make more sense to me to have a blank key rather than a wrong key. Does that not make sense? Am I missing something?Intelli explained it really well.
It's for US ISO which requires a total of 4 extra keys. Nobody really uses US ISO, but it allows you to fill out an ISO board with this set. The legends will just likely be wrong.
Realistically, we can only hope to fill one type of ISO layout. Alternate legend keys for DE ISO, UK ISO, FR ISO, etc. will not hit MOQ any time soon. The second easiest ISO to do is UK ISO, but that requires a few more than 4 keys to do properly.
Really, the only people having UK ISO benefits is UK ISO users, which is a fairly small group of people. I felt it was best to have US ISO since the number of keys required is smaller, and it is 'equally wrong' for everyone, as intelli said.
I hope this helps.
I've got a better solution. Introducing:
Universal addon pack for ISO users
(http://cherrycorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/G80-3000-Front-72-dpi-1100x641.jpg)
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 August 2015, 14:31:50
I guess it would be worthwhile to run a separate GB for such a moogle kit.Just sell your Cherry sets and buy these instead.. :cool:
I mean who doesn't have a vintage cherry set waiting to get used on a modern board?!
Post by: MiTo on Wed, 05 August 2015, 14:46:21
(https://i.imgur.com/5DJcowM.jpg)
picture from /u/anaerobyte @ /r/MK
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 August 2015, 14:48:28
Thinking about it, perhaps I can live without a U9 |\ keycap.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5DJcowM.jpg)picture from /u/anaerobyte @ /r/MK
Esc key should be Grave/Tilde. And Space bar should be alpha color.
Post by: MiTo on Wed, 05 August 2015, 14:49:45
Esc key should be Grave/Tilde. And Space bar should be alpha color.
Agreed JD. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll place an order.
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 August 2015, 14:50:07
Esc key should be Grave/Tilde. And Space bar should be alpha color.+1
Post by: darkclone24 on Wed, 05 August 2015, 14:52:55
It's US ISO - often considered the default or plain vanilla ISO option. Equally wrong for everybody, but at the same time, the best possible option since none of the individual ISO setups could ever hit MOQ.
Intelli explained it really well.
It's for US ISO which requires a total of 4 extra keys. Nobody really uses US ISO, but it allows you to fill out an ISO board with this set. The legends will just likely be wrong.
Realistically, we can only hope to fill one type of ISO layout. Alternate legend keys for DE ISO, UK ISO, FR ISO, etc. will not hit MOQ any time soon. The second easiest ISO to do is UK ISO, but that requires a few more than 4 keys to do properly.
Really, the only people having UK ISO benefits is UK ISO users, which is a fairly small group of people. I felt it was best to have US ISO since the number of keys required is smaller, and it is 'equally wrong' for everyone, as intelli said.
I hope this helps.
Thanks for explaining, I didn't realise US ISO was a thing, makes sense now!
I mean, it's annoying, but at least it makes sense!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 August 2015, 14:54:32
Esc key should be Grave/Tilde. And Space bar should be alpha color.
Agreed JD. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll place an order.
I don't intend to be rude here, but what about that picture convinced you that non-symmetrical would be fine? Non-symmetrical is the "standard" established decades ago, and there are countless pictures that show it. O.o
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 August 2015, 14:55:32
Esc key should be Grave/Tilde. And Space bar should be alpha color.
Agreed JD. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll place an order.
I don't intend to be rude here, but what about that picture convinced you that non-symmetrical would be fine? Non-symmetrical is the "standard" established decades ago, and there are countless pictures that show it. O.o
Mesmerized by the teal, of course.
Post by: njbair on Wed, 05 August 2015, 15:00:51
Thinking about it, perhaps I can live without a U9 |\ keycap.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5DJcowM.jpg)picture from /u/anaerobyte @ /r/MK
Are you sure this came from Reddit? Where's the shoe?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 August 2015, 15:03:35
This set could have been perfect for me, but I am so saddened to see the lack of 4x spacebar and windowed Alt.
I CANNOT buy this because it will not cover my custom inteli 78.3% keyboard.
I agree. How come no GB comes in my preferred layout?! Is it so hard to ask for Pacific Macedonian Alternate layout?? The one with the whale over the umlaut.
Post by: njbair on Wed, 05 August 2015, 15:05:07
This set could have been perfect for me, but I am so saddened to see the lack of 4x spacebar and windowed Alt.
I CANNOT buy this because it will not cover my custom inteli 78.3% keyboard.
I agree. How come no GB comes in my preferred layout?! Is it so hard to ask for Pacific Macedonian Alternate layout?? The one with the whale over the umlaut.
Apparently that's a thing (http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f433/index.htm).
Post by: MiTo on Wed, 05 August 2015, 15:15:53
I don't intend to be rude here, but what about that picture convinced you that non-symmetrical would be fine? Non-symmetrical is the "standard" established decades ago, and there are countless pictures that show it. O.o
In that picture, the white |\ keycap caught my attention and I decided to make a quick mockup to understand what was happening.
Turns out I love the result.
(http://i.imgur.com/nYLtqRB.png)
Colors and legends may not be accurate because I'm using a bad monitor right now.
TL;DR: OCD, basically.
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 August 2015, 15:18:31
I don't intend to be rude here, but what about that picture convinced you that non-symmetrical would be fine? Non-symmetrical is the "standard" established decades ago, and there are countless pictures that show it. O.o
In that picture, the white |\ keycap caught my attention and I decided to make a quick mockup to understand what was happening.
Turns out I love the result.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nYLtqRB.png)
Colors and legends may not be accurate because I'm using a bad monitor right now.
TL;DR: OCD, basically.
As nature intended.
Post by: njbair on Wed, 05 August 2015, 15:19:42
I don't intend to be rude here, but what about that picture convinced you that non-symmetrical would be fine? Non-symmetrical is the "standard" established decades ago, and there are countless pictures that show it. O.o
In that picture, the white |\ keycap caught my attention and I decided to make a quick mockup to understand what was happening.
Turns out I love the result.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nYLtqRB.png)
Colors and legends may not be accurate because I'm using a bad monitor right now.
TL;DR: OCD, basically.
The whole point is, character keys are one color, modifier keys are another color. To me (and a lot of other people), this is logical which outweighs the visual imbalance of asymmetry.
Actually, there's nothing symmetrical about keyboard symmetry unless you're using a Planck or Atomic.
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 August 2015, 15:19:50
The only way it should ever be done (https://geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/azn.gif)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nYLtqRB.png)
Post by: MiTo on Wed, 05 August 2015, 15:23:37
As nature intended.
I checked some sort of Urban Dictionary and now I understand the joke, nice one.
The only way it should ever be doneShow Image(https://geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/azn.gif)
Even though this is form above function, I agree!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 August 2015, 15:24:07
I don't intend to be rude here, but what about that picture convinced you that non-symmetrical would be fine? Non-symmetrical is the "standard" established decades ago, and there are countless pictures that show it. O.o
In that picture, the white |\ keycap caught my attention and I decided to make a quick mockup to understand what was happening.
Turns out I love the result.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nYLtqRB.png)
Colors and legends may not be accurate because I'm using a bad monitor right now.
TL;DR: OCD, basically.
I already knew it would look good. ;)
(http://deskthority.net/w/images/1/14/1391401.jpg)
Post by: njbair on Wed, 05 August 2015, 15:25:30
Post by: MiTo on Wed, 05 August 2015, 15:26:11
I already knew it would look good. ;)Show Image(http://deskthority.net/w/images/1/14/1391401.jpg)
Nice pic, what year is that? I love the white label, not sure I've seen it before.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 August 2015, 15:28:31
I already knew it would look good. ;)Show Image(http://deskthority.net/w/images/1/14/1391401.jpg)
Nice pic, what year is that? I love the white label, not sure I've seen it before.
I don't know what year. I think it's an earlier model (1985 maybe). This is what I meant though, keyboards have had asymmetrical layouts for decades, and it's always looked good. :P
Post by: asgeirtj on Wed, 05 August 2015, 15:30:19
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 August 2015, 16:04:16
So all you guys using grave/tilde instead of Esc on a 60%, do you put Esc on another layer? Because as a Vim user I don't think I could ever do that.
I use this for all 60% keyboards.
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/4498625502bba532a032
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 August 2015, 16:10:57
So all you guys using grave/tilde instead of Esc on a 60%, do you put Esc on another layer? Because as a Vim user I don't think I could ever do that.
I use this for all 60% keyboards.
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/4498625502bba532a032
I weep at the lack of Del. :(
Other than that, HHKB is ^-^
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 August 2015, 16:14:29
So all you guys using grave/tilde instead of Esc on a 60%, do you put Esc on another layer? Because as a Vim user I don't think I could ever do that.
I use this for all 60% keyboards.
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/4498625502bba532a032
I weep at the lack of Del. :(
Other than that, HHKB is ^-^
What are you, a Mac user? ;)
Del is FN0+BSPC of course.
And actually, CAPS and LCTL are swapped, but I didn't feel like changing it.
Post by: billnye on Wed, 05 August 2015, 16:19:39
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 August 2015, 16:23:18
Will be joining on the last day it is open :thumb:You're the worst type of person :thumb:
Post by: admiralvorian on Wed, 05 August 2015, 17:15:28
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 August 2015, 17:22:37
Oooooooohhhhhhh it's here! Thanks so much for bringing this to the community. sad to see that the win98 keys are not doubleshot, but I'm betting that's because it would have increased the price insanely (if it is even possible to get gmk to make a new mold)Not possible :p
Post by: MiTo on Wed, 05 August 2015, 17:24:50
Oooooooohhhhhhh it's here! Thanks so much for bringing this to the community. sad to see that the win98 keys are not doubleshot, but I'm betting that's because it would have increased the price insanely (if it is even possible to get gmk to make a new mold)
I don't think GMK can inject in a mold with such level of detail, same with Signature Plastics but I'm not worried at all as I trust the method they are using here. It's gonna last forever.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 August 2015, 17:28:29
So all you guys using grave/tilde instead of Esc on a 60%, do you put Esc on another layer? Because as a Vim user I don't think I could ever do that.
I use this for all 60% keyboards.
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/4498625502bba532a032
I weep at the lack of Del. :(
Other than that, HHKB is ^-^
What are you, a Mac user? ;)
Del is FN0+BSPC of course.
And actually, CAPS and LCTL are swapped, but I didn't feel like changing it.
Partially. :P
I'm mostly just a user that likes to delete things. >:D And doing a full delete (shift + del) becomes that much harder with Del on a fn layer. :|
Post by: admiralvorian on Wed, 05 August 2015, 17:46:07
Oooooooohhhhhhh it's here! Thanks so much for bringing this to the community. sad to see that the win98 keys are not doubleshot, but I'm betting that's because it would have increased the price insanely (if it is even possible to get gmk to make a new mold)
I don't think GMK can inject in a mold with such level of detail, same with Signature Plastics but I'm not worried at all as I trust the method they are using here. It's gonna last forever.
Oooooooohhhhhhh it's here! Thanks so much for bringing this to the community. sad to see that the win98 keys are not doubleshot, but I'm betting that's because it would have increased the price insanely (if it is even possible to get gmk to make a new mold)Not possible :p
oh yeah, didn't even think about the detail
man im so excited for this
Post by: Metr0 on Wed, 05 August 2015, 18:48:53
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 August 2015, 18:55:05
Was looking to pick a set of adler up but I think I'm just going to go with this on further thought. How well would this fit on a 84 keyboard, namely Redscarf 84?Yeah, it should work with any of the RS84 layouts except the one with the 6u spacebar, since this only has 6.25 and 7u spacebars.
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:14:15
Windows 1x (2), Right small shift 1.75x (1), Right Fn 1x (1)
Thank you for the correction sir.
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:28:49
If anyone will not be using the following 4 keys I will buy them from you:Small shift right is 1.75 btw
Windows 1x (2), Right small shift 1.5x? (1), Right Fn 1x (1)
Post by: Warlock001 on Thu, 06 August 2015, 02:00:19
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 06 August 2015, 03:39:12
Post by: olijuice on Thu, 06 August 2015, 03:50:01
If I buy two sets of GMK RGBK mod packs then I will have two right shifts. I bought Matt3o's Topre spacebars so maybe I can use the blue spacebar for added style. I could then trade or sell the remaining RGBK mod pack or save them for another project.
In the end it would probably take away from the whole "Classic" feel, so I don't know. Maybe I can wait for something else? Or maybe I need this, lol. Attached is the laughably terrible and very embarrassing MS Paint version of what I am trying to visualize. Feel free to mock me, but I am going to bed now :)
GMK RGBK https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73626.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73626.0)
Post by: nmur on Thu, 06 August 2015, 03:57:55
I've spent way too long thinking about this and even longer in MS Paint. So I thought this would look sweet on a Leopold FC660C with Novatouch sliders, but there are so many problems that I don't know if it is worth trying. First the FC660C uses two 2.25u Shift keys and the second is that it uses a 6u spacebar.
If I buy two sets of GMK RGBK mod packs then I will have two right shifts. I bought Matt3o's Topre spacebars so maybe I can use the blue spacebar for added style. I could then trade or sell the remaining RGBK mod pack or save them for another project.
In the end it would probably take away from the whole "Classic" feel, so I don't know. Maybe I can wait for something else? Or maybe I need this, lol. Attached is the laughably terrible and very embarrassing MS Paint version of what I am trying to visualize. Feel free to mock me, but I am going to bed now :)
GMK RGBK https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73626.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73626.0)
You could use both the text+symbol and symbol only shifts, but of course it will look a little uneven. I would imagine trying to find someone who only wants the symbol-only shifts from this pack and would sell/trade you their text+symbol shift would be more desirable than buying a whole extra pack.
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 06 August 2015, 04:34:11
Will be joining on the last day it is open :thumb:You're the worst type of person :thumb:
This is me as well.
Sorry man just need dat cash in the bank
Post by: Karura on Thu, 06 August 2015, 05:05:16
Post by: clacktalk on Thu, 06 August 2015, 05:08:34
I'm having a tough time converting pounds to USD.
have u tried converting to kilograms first?
Post by: meiosis on Thu, 06 August 2015, 05:12:06
Post by: madhias on Thu, 06 August 2015, 05:28:53
I think he came up with the gold standard for GMK GBs. In my opinion all future color ways should be done this way!
+1 100%
But also with 1800 support! Then it is the gold standard.
Post by: dimmu on Thu, 06 August 2015, 05:44:52
Post by: Fire Brand on Thu, 06 August 2015, 06:55:56
I'm having a tough time converting pounds to USD.Would it not just be easy to us something like XE.com? Does it all for you also I'm going to guess the base set cost roughly $160ish
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 06 August 2015, 07:16:57
It's in the OP..I'm having a tough time converting pounds to USD.Would it not just be easy to us something like XE.com? Does it all for you also I'm going to guess the base set cost roughly $160ish
EU/UK ORDERS
Main set - £82.50 - About €117.50
Extra set - £27.50 - About €39.00
Spacebars - £2 each - About €2.85
NON-EU ORDERS
Main set - £72.50 - About $113.00
Extra set - £22.50 - About $35.00
Spacebars - £2 each - About $3.10
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 August 2015, 07:18:37
I'm having a tough time converting pounds to USD.Would it not just be easy to us something like XE.com? Does it all for you also I'm going to guess the base set cost roughly $160ish
Site:google.com 1 gbp to usd
Replace 1 with the amount you want.
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 06 August 2015, 07:20:38
It's in the OP..I'm having a tough time converting pounds to USD.Would it not just be easy to us something like XE.com? Does it all for you also I'm going to guess the base set cost roughly $160ish
EU/UK ORDERS
Main set - £82.50 - About €117.50
Extra set - £27.50 - About €39.00
Spacebars - £2 each - About €2.85
NON-EU ORDERS
Main set - £72.50 - About $113.00
Extra set - £22.50 - About $35.00
Spacebars - £2 each - About $3.10
How much zimbabwe dollars would that be please my good sir?
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 06 August 2015, 07:26:10
It's in the OP..I'm having a tough time converting pounds to USD.Would it not just be easy to us something like XE.com? Does it all for you also I'm going to guess the base set cost roughly $160ish
EU/UK ORDERS
Main set - £82.50 - About €117.50
Extra set - £27.50 - About €39.00
Spacebars - £2 each - About €2.85
NON-EU ORDERS
Main set - £72.50 - About $113.00
Extra set - £22.50 - About $35.00
Spacebars - £2 each - About $3.10
How much zimbabwe dollars would that be please my good sir?
9x10^99999999999999999999999999
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 06 August 2015, 08:17:58
It's in the OP..I'm having a tough time converting pounds to USD.Would it not just be easy to us something like XE.com? Does it all for you also I'm going to guess the base set cost roughly $160ish
EU/UK ORDERS
Main set - £82.50 - About €117.50
Extra set - £27.50 - About €39.00
Spacebars - £2 each - About €2.85
NON-EU ORDERS
Main set - £72.50 - About $113.00
Extra set - £22.50 - About $35.00
Spacebars - £2 each - About $3.10
How much zimbabwe dollars would that be please my good sir?
9x10^99999999999999999999999999
Leave it to me to ask the real questions.
(http://i.imgur.com/LMPIrTg.png)
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 06 August 2015, 08:22:40
I've spent way too long thinking about this and even longer in MS Paint. So I thought this would look sweet on a Leopold FC660C with Novatouch sliders, but there are so many problems that I don't know if it is worth trying. First the FC660C uses two 2.25u Shift keys and the second is that it uses a 6u spacebar.
If I buy two sets of GMK RGBK mod packs then I will have two right shifts. I bought Matt3o's Topre spacebars so maybe I can use the blue spacebar for added style. I could then trade or sell the remaining RGBK mod pack or save them for another project.
In the end it would probably take away from the whole "Classic" feel, so I don't know. Maybe I can wait for something else? Or maybe I need this, lol. Attached is the laughably terrible and very embarrassing MS Paint version of what I am trying to visualize. Feel free to mock me, but I am going to bed now :)
GMK RGBK https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73626.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73626.0)
The mockup is not that bad IMO. It really helps to visualize what you are getting. ;)
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Thu, 06 August 2015, 08:24:11
It's in the OP..I'm having a tough time converting pounds to USD.Would it not just be easy to us something like XE.com? Does it all for you also I'm going to guess the base set cost roughly $160ish
EU/UK ORDERS
Main set - £82.50 - About €117.50
Extra set - £27.50 - About €39.00
Spacebars - £2 each - About €2.85
NON-EU ORDERS
Main set - £72.50 - About $113.00
Extra set - £22.50 - About $35.00
Spacebars - £2 each - About $3.10
How much zimbabwe dollars would that be please my good sir?
9x10^99999999999999999999999999
Leave it to me to ask the real questions.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LMPIrTg.png)
Pricey. Can anyone lend me a few dongs? I can repay the favor in the future.
Post by: swornxin on Thu, 06 August 2015, 11:23:31
GBP to CAD = killer...Seriously. Going to have to save money from now until the end to pay for this without the girlfriend finding out. Haha.
Post by: monotagary on Thu, 06 August 2015, 19:02:40
Post by: deci on Thu, 06 August 2015, 19:31:39
I'm definitely in.
Now all I'm missing is GMK olivetti...
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Thu, 06 August 2015, 19:42:38
GBP to CAD = killer...Seriously. Going to have to save money from now until the end to pay for this without the girlfriend finding out. Haha.
Christ... yea. Pretty much $200can :'(
Just reminded me I have some money in my UK bank account :cool:
Post by: cgbuen on Fri, 07 August 2015, 00:24:55
More
(http://i.imgur.com/xHIzSiE.jpg)
Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 07 August 2015, 00:33:58
Edit: Actually, it may be a non-issue here since the legends are all black. Here's hoping. :thumb:
Post by: MiTo on Fri, 07 August 2015, 01:24:59
Edit: Actually, it may be a non-issue here since the legends are all black. Here's hoping. :thumb:
I see your point, since the keycaps have a white/gray + black 2shot. However let's not forget that the keycaps themselves have a light tone overall (white/gray) and such light tones are prone to allow leakage of light if not made on thick enough plastic - like JT's that you mentioned on /r/MK.
Post by: gmk on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:08:53
price - $115
Miami Nights, includes iso
€106 / $115
Beige, iso is in the extra set
EU/UK ORDERS
Main set €117.50 $128
Extra set €39.00 $43
total Main + Extra= €156 $171
Beige, iso is in the extra set
NON-EU ORDERS
Main set - £72.50 - About $113.00
Extra set - £22.50 - About $35.00
Triumph Adler, custom colors, includes iso
$100 €91
So, while your prices are aligned to the usual, to have an ISO set in the EU we need to spend €156, against the €91 of the Triumph Adler, that's 70% more!!! :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Fantastic!
Don't forget that the packages delivered from the usa are not delivered with the full value, so there are no taxes.
Post by: joey on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:26:14
Is this a good set to have on my main board, or should it be for something used less frequently?
Help hype me up!
Post by: njbair on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:30:06
I'm losing hype for this, after seeing some bad keys in TA, LastPilots post, and someone saying they shine quickly.
Is this a good set to have on my main board, or should it be for something used less frequently?
Help hype me up!
Remember that TA was the first time a GMK buy used custom colors. Let's wait and see how Hyperfuse comes out before jumping to any conclusions about GMK in general.
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:52:15
So, while your prices are aligned to the usual, to have an ISO set in the EU we need to spend €156, against the €91 of the Triumph Adler, that's 70% more!!! :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\Firstly, TA cannot be compared to this GB or Hyperfuse. TA had a much, much higher number of orders, so the price was much cheaper from GMK.
Fantastic!
Don't forget that the packages delivered from the usa are not delivered with the full value, so there are no taxes.
Secondly, if it's only ISO you want from the extra kit (which I find astounding.. there are so many good keys in there) you will have no problem at all selling on the rest of the keys for a proportional cost. In fact, I'm sure you would be able to sell them for more than you paid for the entire kit after the GB ends.
Lastly, packages delivered from the USA are not necessarily delivered with a lower value.
Is it possible for you to ask the GMK representative about light leaking (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74258) through caps? I've never seen light go through the classic beige cherry sets, but I certainly don't want to start now.I will ask them for sure. However, Christoph is away for a few weeks. I'll ask him when he gets back.
Edit: Actually, it may be a non-issue here since the legends are all black. Here's hoping. :thumb:
I'm losing hype for this, after seeing some bad keys in TA, LastPilots post, and someone saying they shine quickly.I would ignore those TA keys, at least for this GB. It's quite clear that was due to the set using custom colours, which this isn't.
Is this a good set to have on my main board, or should it be for something used less frequently?
Help hype me up!
GMK keycaps don't shine quickly. They shine less quickly than SP and pretty much any ABS keycap. The rate of shine varies person to person. It depends on the oils on their hands, the roughness of their skin, all kinds of things... For some people who have hands like sandpaper these will shine quickly, and so will any other keycap (even PBT ones). However, most people aren't like that and these usually won't shine for a long time.
Post by: trees on Fri, 07 August 2015, 09:08:15
I would ignore those TA keys, at least for this GB. It's quite clear that was due to the set using custom colours, which this isn't.
GMK keycaps don't shine quickly. They shine less quickly than SP and pretty much any ABS keycap. The rate of shine varies person to person. It depends on the oils on their hands, the roughness of their skin, all kinds of things... For some people who have hands like sandpaper these will shine quickly, and so will any other keycap (even PBT ones). However, most people aren't like that and these usually won't shine for a long time.
Lets not forget, some shine adds character.
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 07 August 2015, 10:23:44
I'm losing hype for this, after seeing some bad keys in TA, LastPilots post, and someone saying they shine quickly.
Is this a good set to have on my main board, or should it be for something used less frequently?
Help hype me up!
GMK sets are of sufficiently high quality (key feel, thickness, uniformity between caps, legending) that you should pick up this set and judge for yourself whether you will participate in future GMK buys.
Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 07 August 2015, 11:28:05
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 07 August 2015, 11:36:06
Can some of you guys post some pics of the Classic Beige keycaps? I know there are a lot out there, but please post your favourites! I'm still on the fence...(http://i.imgur.com/i5eI6fB.jpg)
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 07 August 2015, 11:49:16
Can some of you guys post some pics of the Classic Beige keycaps? I know there are a lot out there, but please post your favourites! I'm still on the fence...(http://i.imgur.com/OexMmfp.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3904/14393787904_e40fdf8c68_b.jpg)
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8575/15875606257_a3d8fbd71e_b.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/O3uzT5k.jpg)
With its natural partner.. RGB :
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7409/16459250906_9fc90a3980_b.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Lt2k5ge.jpg)
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 07 August 2015, 12:04:44
Any possible chance that the 1.25x classic Windows keys may be aligned more towards the left, like in your picture here, which would match the Menu alignment?Yeah, that will be done :)MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/xHIzSiE.jpg)
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 07 August 2015, 12:27:00
Can some of you guys post some pics of the Classic Beige keycaps? I know there are a lot out there, but please post your favourites! I'm still on the fence...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/OexMmfp.jpg)Show Image(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3904/14393787904_e40fdf8c68_b.jpg)Show Image(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8575/15875606257_a3d8fbd71e_b.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/O3uzT5k.jpg)
With its natural partner.. RGB :Show Image(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7409/16459250906_9fc90a3980_b.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Lt2k5ge.jpg)
Those are some classy boards :)
Post by: joey on Fri, 07 August 2015, 15:48:33
Help hype me up!
Remember that TA was the first time a GMK buy used custom colors. Let's wait and see how Hyperfuse comes out before jumping to any conclusions about GMK in general.
I would ignore those TA keys, at least for this GB. It's quite clear that was due to the set using custom colours, which this isn't.
GMK keycaps don't shine quickly. They shine less quickly than SP and pretty much any ABS keycap. The rate of shine varies person to person. It depends on the oils on their hands, the roughness of their skin, all kinds of things... For some people who have hands like sandpaper these will shine quickly, and so will any other keycap (even PBT ones). However, most people aren't like that and these usually won't shine for a long time.
GMK sets are of sufficiently high quality (key feel, thickness, uniformity between caps, legending) that you should pick up this set and judge for yourself whether you will participate in future GMK buys.
Sufficiently hyped up, thanks guys!
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 07 August 2015, 15:52:38
Sufficiently hyped up, thanks guys!
I am not...
Need moar hype...
Need ELRICK...
Post by: filphil on Fri, 07 August 2015, 15:54:22
Sufficiently hyped up, thanks guys!
I am not...
Need moar hype...
Need ELRICK...
Actually haven't seen the guy post in a while. WHERE'S ELRICK
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 07 August 2015, 16:38:34
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 07 August 2015, 16:41:05
Sufficiently hyped up, thanks guys!
I am not...
Need moar hype...
Need ELRICK...
+1 Needs dat Elrick Hype
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 07 August 2015, 17:37:54
Post by: joey on Fri, 07 August 2015, 17:52:00
Checkout Success Sample Text ...
A few words about the approximate shipping time or your processing policy would be put here.
This section of text is from the Define Pages Editor located under Tools in the Admin.
:thumb:
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 07 August 2015, 17:58:52
Your Order Number is: 42I knew I was forgetting something :blank:
Checkout Success Sample Text ...
A few words about the approximate shipping time or your processing policy would be put here.
This section of text is from the Define Pages Editor located under Tools in the Admin.
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Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 07 August 2015, 20:25:06
:-*
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 07 August 2015, 20:26:56
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 07 August 2015, 20:29:32
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 07 August 2015, 20:30:26
Love your Avatar, Photekq. Didn't realize you like Shaolin Soccer. Ha ha.Kung Fu Hustle is among my favourites :)) Shaolin Soccer is up there too.
Post by: 64rky on Fri, 07 August 2015, 21:30:59
I hope orders will start to pick up towards the end of the GB.. Things are very slow right now.. :'(
There have been a lot of "I'll buy these towards the end" from the ones budgeting, so I feel the curve has an incline coming.
I may add one to my order depending on how other purchases pan out. If I did would I benefit from single shipping?
Order #22
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 07 August 2015, 21:32:20
Yeah if you want to combine shipping just order another one normally, PM me here or email me, and I'll refund the shipping difference.I hope orders will start to pick up towards the end of the GB.. Things are very slow right now.. :'(
There have been a lot of "I'll buy these towards the end" from the ones budgeting, so I feel the curve has an incline coming.
I may add one to my order depending on how other purchases pan out. If I did would I benefit from single shipping?
Order #22
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 08 August 2015, 03:18:43
I hope orders will start to pick up towards the end of the GB.. Things are very slow right now.. :'(
I really don't get this "I wait until the last minute to order" attitude. I mean if one decided to buy this set why not order right away? Because of the 0,5$ interest for keeping the money in the bank for one more month?
I mean this GB was announced months ago, so everyone had enough time to save some money for it...
Post by: wlhlm on Sat, 08 August 2015, 03:23:23
Want to get an Extra set.I hope orders will start to pick up towards the end of the GB.. Things are very slow right now.. :'(
I really don't get this "I wait until the last minute to order" attitude. I mean if one decided to buy this set why not order right away? Because of the 0,5$ interest for keeping the money in the bank for one more month?
I mean this GB was announced months ago, so everyone had enough time to save some money for it...
I'm hoping I can pay at some point using PayPal. I don't have a credit card and my debit card isn't supported by Stripe. :(
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 08 August 2015, 03:28:02
Want to get an Extra set.I hope orders will start to pick up towards the end of the GB.. Things are very slow right now.. :'(
I really don't get this "I wait until the last minute to order" attitude. I mean if one decided to buy this set why not order right away? Because of the 0,5$ interest for keeping the money in the bank for one more month?
I mean this GB was announced months ago, so everyone had enough time to save some money for it...
I'm hoping I can pay at some point using PayPal. I don't have a credit card and my debit card isn't supported by Stripe. :(
If you don't find a solution I can order another set for you if you want. Doing a SEPA transaction is better than PayPal anyway :thumb:
Post by: joey on Sat, 08 August 2015, 03:32:08
Post by: romevi on Sat, 08 August 2015, 03:38:00
Same for me with PayPal, but I'm also waiting for some funds to free up.Want to get an Extra set.I hope orders will start to pick up towards the end of the GB.. Things are very slow right now.. :'(
I really don't get this "I wait until the last minute to order" attitude. I mean if one decided to buy this set why not order right away? Because of the 0,5$ interest for keeping the money in the bank for one more month?
I mean this GB was announced months ago, so everyone had enough time to save some money for it...
I'm hoping I can pay at some point using PayPal. I don't have a credit card and my debit card isn't supported by Stripe. :(
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 08 August 2015, 03:46:10
Post by: Prelim on Sat, 08 August 2015, 04:16:22
(http://i.imgur.com/ilys0Fa.jpg)
Post by: Prelim on Sat, 08 August 2015, 04:17:33
Post by: 64rky on Sat, 08 August 2015, 07:28:13
I hope orders will start to pick up towards the end of the GB.. Things are very slow right now.. :'(
I really don't get this "I wait until the last minute to order" attitude. I mean if one decided to buy this set why not order right away? Because of the 0,5$ interest for keeping the money in the bank for one more month?
I mean this GB was announced months ago, so everyone had enough time to save some money for it...
I think that even though people knew about the GB at the IC phase, they didn't start thinking about the actual cost until the idea materialized into a GB.
With other group buys I get what you're saying, just jump in, and you'll be invoiced down the line, giving individuals something tangible to save for. With this one, some simply do not have the cash, and are probably saving furiously for it, or they have the money but given their economic position, they might not want to risk their buffer just this minute, thus building it up more towards the deadline.
I think as long as we hit the buy, and it goes forward and everyone who wants one of these magnificent sets gets one, we are alllll good.
GMK y'all
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 08 August 2015, 08:00:19
What's the estimated time for this GB to finish? January 2016?I couldn't say. It depends on how long it takes for GMK to produce the sets.
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 08 August 2015, 13:53:20
On a personal note, I like the set but I am not sure I really want it. I try to minimize impulsive buys especially in our hobby. In addition it is a bit more expensive than what I used to pay for keycaps GBs. Putting time in it helps me be sure I want it. I don't want to buy every key set I like and end up with 15+ keyset I never use. :)I hope orders will start to pick up towards the end of the GB.. Things are very slow right now.. :'(
I really don't get this "I wait until the last minute to order" attitude. I mean if one decided to buy this set why not order right away? Because of the 0,5$ interest for keeping the money in the bank for one more month?
I mean this GB was announced months ago, so everyone had enough time to save some money for it...
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 08 August 2015, 14:18:54
On a personal note, I like the set but I am not sure I really want it. I try to minimize impulsive buys especially in our hobby. In addition it is a bit more expensive than what I used to pay for keycaps GBs. Putting time in it helps me be sure I want it. I don't want to buy every key set I like and end up with 15+ keyset I never use. :)I hope orders will start to pick up towards the end of the GB.. Things are very slow right now.. :'(
I really don't get this "I wait until the last minute to order" attitude. I mean if one decided to buy this set why not order right away? Because of the 0,5$ interest for keeping the money in the bank for one more month?
I mean this GB was announced months ago, so everyone had enough time to save some money for it...
You need to buy more boards then ;)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 08 August 2015, 14:22:21
On a personal note, I like the set but I am not sure I really want it. I try to minimize impulsive buys especially in our hobby. In addition it is a bit more expensive than what I used to pay for keycaps GBs. Putting time in it helps me be sure I want it. I don't want to buy every key set I like and end up with 15+ keyset I never use. :)I hope orders will start to pick up towards the end of the GB.. Things are very slow right now.. :'(
I really don't get this "I wait until the last minute to order" attitude. I mean if one decided to buy this set why not order right away? Because of the 0,5$ interest for keeping the money in the bank for one more month?
I mean this GB was announced months ago, so everyone had enough time to save some money for it...
You need to buy more boards then ;)
This man gets it :p
Post by: swornxin on Sat, 08 August 2015, 15:10:58
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 08 August 2015, 15:52:04
On a personal note, I like the set but I am not sure I really want it. I try to minimize impulsive buys especially in our hobby. In addition it is a bit more expensive than what I used to pay for keycaps GBs. Putting time in it helps me be sure I want it. I don't want to buy every key set I like and end up with 15+ keyset I never use. :)I hope orders will start to pick up towards the end of the GB.. Things are very slow right now.. :'(
I really don't get this "I wait until the last minute to order" attitude. I mean if one decided to buy this set why not order right away? Because of the 0,5$ interest for keeping the money in the bank for one more month?
I mean this GB was announced months ago, so everyone had enough time to save some money for it...
You need to buy more boards then ;)
The same logic applies to keyboards. I can justify to myself having only two boards as this is only what I need (one for personal and one for professional use). Although I admit being tempted pretty often.On a personal note, I like the set but I am not sure I really want it. I try to minimize impulsive buys especially in our hobby. In addition it is a bit more expensive than what I used to pay for keycaps GBs. Putting time in it helps me be sure I want it. I don't want to buy every key set I like and end up with 15+ keyset I never use. :)I hope orders will start to pick up towards the end of the GB.. Things are very slow right now.. :'(
I really don't get this "I wait until the last minute to order" attitude. I mean if one decided to buy this set why not order right away? Because of the 0,5$ interest for keeping the money in the bank for one more month?
I mean this GB was announced months ago, so everyone had enough time to save some money for it...
You need to buy more boards then ;)
This man gets it
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 08 August 2015, 21:52:43
On a personal note, I like the set but I am not sure I really want it. I try to minimize impulsive buys especially in our hobby. In addition it is a bit more expensive than what I used to pay for keycaps GBs. Putting time in it helps me be sure I want it. I don't want to buy every key set I like and end up with 15+ keyset I never use. :)I hope orders will start to pick up towards the end of the GB.. Things are very slow right now.. :'(
I really don't get this "I wait until the last minute to order" attitude. I mean if one decided to buy this set why not order right away? Because of the 0,5$ interest for keeping the money in the bank for one more month?
I mean this GB was announced months ago, so everyone had enough time to save some money for it...
I have only two mx boards and yet I have so many key sets: Bro set, Toxic, Ivan's Dolch and coming soon: GMK Hyperfuse, Originative GMK Cyrillic, GMK Triumph Adler. I like Classic Beige too but two things is putting me on a hold: the superficial exchange rate and the recent quality of TA. And yet, FOMO is all too real :))
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 09 August 2015, 03:04:04
Yeah I feel you.On a personal note, I like the set but I am not sure I really want it. I try to minimize impulsive buys especially in our hobby. In addition it is a bit more expensive than what I used to pay for keycaps GBs. Putting time in it helps me be sure I want it. I don't want to buy every key set I like and end up with 15+ keyset I never use. :)I hope orders will start to pick up towards the end of the GB.. Things are very slow right now.. :'(
I really don't get this "I wait until the last minute to order" attitude. I mean if one decided to buy this set why not order right away? Because of the 0,5$ interest for keeping the money in the bank for one more month?
I mean this GB was announced months ago, so everyone had enough time to save some money for it...
I have only two mx boards and yet I have so many key sets: Bro set, Toxic, Ivan's Dolch and coming soon: GMK Hyperfuse, Originative GMK Cyrillic, GMK Triumph Adler. I like Classic Beige too but two things is putting me on a hold: the superficial exchange rate and the recent quality of TA. And yet, FOMO is all too real :))
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 09 August 2015, 04:05:34
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 09 August 2015, 04:09:30
People are waiting because the group leader, counting on the popularity of beige, has never talked about prices, payment methods, keys included in each set etc, so maybe that some are quite surprised by some quite original and hardly explainable choices.Wut? It's all discussed to great length in the Interest Check thread.
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 09 August 2015, 04:12:56
People are waiting because the group leader, counting on the popularity of beige, has never talked about prices, payment methods, keys included in each set etc, so maybe that some are quite surprised by some quite original and hardly explainable choices.The key selection has been the same for months and was visible for a very long time. The vast majority of people who have given feedback on it are happy with it.
I made it clear on numerous occasions that I would be using Stripe. Again, most people seem to have no problems whatsoever with Stripe.
I gave rough prices that were very close to the actual prices months ago.
If you don't like the set don't buy it. Just don't go making posts which are completely wrong.
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 09 August 2015, 04:30:50
People seem to be worried about the quality of GMK caps, although it's is pretty clear that the custom colors are to blame. The Hyperfuse GMK set that was produced in the same period of time, doesn't have any of these issues.
I really thought this would be a walk in the park and this set would reach MOQ in a week, but this thread doesn't have any hype...
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 09 August 2015, 04:40:33
So lot of orders in the end?
Post by: jd29 on Sun, 09 August 2015, 04:49:31
This is one of the most beautiful keysets that I have ever seen. ~snip~I don't know a lot about keycaps, and this post helped convince me to drop over $100 on this set. I'm building my own keyboard and I'm certain these caps will cost me more than every other component combined. Classic beige is my favorite color scheme and I don't want to miss it, and the way you make it sound, I hopefully won't have trouble selling it even if I end up going with an incompatible switch.
With its natural partner.. RGB :I would definitely be in on that set if I could get the grey caps with colored legend casts:
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Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 09 August 2015, 05:13:24
This set is very good for US buyers, not so good for iso eu.
I was trying to be constructive, and to let you know the reason behind the lower than usual share of iso buyers.
People are waiting because the group leader, counting on the popularity of beige, has never talked about prices, payment methods, keys included in each set etc, so maybe that some are quite surprised by some quite original and hardly explainable choices.The key selection has been the same for months and was visible for a very long time. The vast majority of people who have given feedback on it are happy with it.
I made it clear on numerous occasions that I would be using Stripe. Again, most people seem to have no problems whatsoever with Stripe.
I gave rough prices that were very close to the actual prices months ago.
If you don't like the set don't buy it. Just don't go making posts which are completely wrong.
Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 09 August 2015, 07:25:09
Hopefully it is just caused by the fact people have to pay right away on this and not only register on a google docs.
So lot of orders in the end?
I know that Hyperfuse had a really big number of orders right at the end as well
Presumably for this reason
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 09 August 2015, 13:50:01
I think there was something like 650+ orders on Hyperfuse in total. I don't recall the exact number but Bunny was quite pleased by its success.Hopefully it is just caused by the fact people have to pay right away on this and not only register on a google docs.
So lot of orders in the end?
I know that Hyperfuse had a really big number of orders right at the end as well
Presumably for this reason
Post by: skuko on Mon, 10 August 2015, 03:50:02
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 10 August 2015, 03:57:23
so, errr....how does it look like? i shudder at the thought of this not making the MOQ :-X
That would be my worst nightmare!
When the deadline approaches and we are close to MOQ I could add another set to my order and sell it later.
I guess if the hardcore fans of classic beige do the same, we can make it :thumb:
Post by: ATXTider on Mon, 10 August 2015, 06:58:22
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 10 August 2015, 07:24:51
Post by: DVH on Mon, 10 August 2015, 07:55:41
Post by: jd29 on Mon, 10 August 2015, 13:00:26
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 10 August 2015, 13:02:40
I want to use the wide modifiers from R5, but the 7u spacebar to match them is from R4. Does that mean the spacebar profile won't match?
there is no R5 spacebar (in replica or Original set).
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 10 August 2015, 13:04:16
I want to use the wide modifiers from R5, but the 7u spacebar to match them is from R4. Does that mean the spacebar profile won't match?Yeah, spacebars have a unique profile. They are always the same regardless of the profile of the bottom row.
Post by: jd29 on Mon, 10 August 2015, 15:49:20
Post by: shower_king on Tue, 11 August 2015, 02:49:41
I want to choose USPS Priority, how i could change the ship ways? thank you
Post by: xqwtz on Tue, 11 August 2015, 14:54:47
I don't intend to be rude here, but what about that picture convinced you that non-symmetrical would be fine? Non-symmetrical is the "standard" established decades ago, and there are countless pictures that show it. O.o
In that picture, the white |\ keycap caught my attention and I decided to make a quick mockup to understand what was happening.
Turns out I love the result.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nYLtqRB.png)
Colors and legends may not be accurate because I'm using a bad monitor right now.
TL;DR: OCD, basically.
The whole point is, character keys are one color, modifier keys are another color. To me (and a lot of other people), this is logical which outweighs the visual imbalance of asymmetry.
Actually, there's nothing symmetrical about keyboard symmetry unless you're using a Planck or Atomic.
I agree with this.
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 11 August 2015, 14:59:46
Post by: monotagary on Tue, 11 August 2015, 15:51:10
If you're having trouble with getting orders, maybe it's time to change the name to Hellgrau. Sounds badass and is the true name of the set color.
He's got a point. I would immediately order if the name was changed to Hellgrau.
Post by: Prelim on Tue, 11 August 2015, 15:51:18
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/716/rnk4.jpg)
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 11 August 2015, 16:01:59
isn't hellgrau this?Thats what I thought as wellShow Image(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/716/rnk4.jpg)
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 11 August 2015, 16:50:25
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 11 August 2015, 17:02:49
isn't hellgrau this?Show Image(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/716/rnk4.jpg)
Could be and I'm retarded. I just like the name :-[
Post by: jd29 on Tue, 11 August 2015, 17:09:23
Could be and I'm retarded. I just like the name :-[It certainly is a badass word, even by German standards.
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 11 August 2015, 17:24:29
F and J have a dash or a deep dish?F/J are scooped :)
a question about ship ways is that i could only choose first class of USPS but no USPS Priority to ship these keycaps to China.Hey, currently we're just doing USPS First Class for international orders unless it's a larger order. USPS Priority is what we're using for CONUS orders.
I want to choose USPS Priority, how i could change the ship ways? thank you
If you're having trouble with getting orders, maybe it's time to change the name to Hellgrau. Sounds badass and is the true name of the set color.Hellgrau is definitely the all (off-)white colour scheme prelim posted :))
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 11 August 2015, 17:27:58
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 11 August 2015, 17:39:01
In for 5 sets of each, lets hit this MOQ plsIt's still quite a while until this ends, mate.
Calm down there. :-*
I still have yet to place an order, and probably a lot of people will pour in here soon.
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 11 August 2015, 17:39:50
I still have to place the order as well, I am just putting it down so I don't forget. I will probably put 4 of them in the store.In for 5 sets of each, lets hit this MOQ plsIt's still quite a while until this ends, mate.
Calm down there. :-*
I still have yet to place an order, and probably a lot of people will pour in here soon.
Post by: E3E on Tue, 11 August 2015, 18:12:21
On a personal note, I like the set but I am not sure I really want it. I try to minimize impulsive buys especially in our hobby. In addition it is a bit more expensive than what I used to pay for keycaps GBs. Putting time in it helps me be sure I want it. I don't want to buy every key set I like and end up with 15+ keyset I never use. :)I hope orders will start to pick up towards the end of the GB.. Things are very slow right now.. :'(
I really don't get this "I wait until the last minute to order" attitude. I mean if one decided to buy this set why not order right away? Because of the 0,5$ interest for keeping the money in the bank for one more month?
I mean this GB was announced months ago, so everyone had enough time to save some money for it...
It is incredibly easy to be impulsive in this hobby, unfortunately. XP All of these keysets look too beautiful to pass up. My pockets aren't deep enough to afford it all, haha. So I'd better get back to making them deeper! :thumb:
Post by: rpeterclark on Tue, 11 August 2015, 20:07:06
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 11 August 2015, 20:11:21
I would not rule out TA having a negative effect on this group buy. A lot of people feel burned and uncertain that GMK is still worth the premium. I don't feel that way, but it's easy to understand.Hopefully I'll be able to have a fairly lengthy discussion with GMK about quality concerns soon. I'm just waiting for their rep to return from his holiday.
Post by: njbair on Tue, 11 August 2015, 22:42:30
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 12 August 2015, 02:35:18
Is it easy to adapt?
F and J have a dash or a deep dish?F/J are scooped :)a question about ship ways is that i could only choose first class of USPS but no USPS Priority to ship these keycaps to China.Hey, currently we're just doing USPS First Class for international orders unless it's a larger order. USPS Priority is what we're using for CONUS orders.
I want to choose USPS Priority, how i could change the ship ways? thank youIf you're having trouble with getting orders, maybe it's time to change the name to Hellgrau. Sounds badass and is the true name of the set color.Hellgrau is definitely the all (off-)white colour scheme prelim posted :))
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 12 August 2015, 02:39:18
I'll never understand why such a fundamental point is overlooked, with some group buys only offering scoops, other offering a dot, and others offering the only logical solution, the raised "homing bar" near the bottom edge on the 'F' and 'J' keys :-)
Is it easy to adapt?
Because you're part of a minority, few people like the homing bar. Also to match the theme of Classic Beige that has no homing bar but scoops.
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 12 August 2015, 03:48:40
I'll never understand why such a fundamental point is overlooked, with some group buys only offering scoops, other offering a dot, and others offering the only logical solution, the raised "homing bar" near the bottom edge on the 'F' and 'J' keys :-)
Is it easy to adapt?
Because you're part of a minority, few people like the homing bar. Also to match the theme of Classic Beige that has no homing bar but scoops.
Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 12 August 2015, 04:18:45
Non sequitur.
?
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 12 August 2015, 04:23:18
Non sequitur.
?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(logic)
:thumb:
Post by: clacktalk on Wed, 12 August 2015, 04:26:17
Non sequitur.I'll never understand why such a fundamental point is overlooked, with some group buys only offering scoops, other offering a dot, and others offering the only logical solution, the raised "homing bar" near the bottom edge on the 'F' and 'J' keys :-)
Is it easy to adapt?
Because you're part of a minority, few people like the homing bar. Also to match the theme of Classic Beige that has no homing bar but scoops.
he's answering your first statement in which you wrongfully assume homing bars are the only logical solution.
yes, it's easy to adapt. yes, you should stop being so aggressive with an opinion and saying baseless things.
i guess it's cool if your goal is to annoy people, but i'm not one to assume
Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 12 August 2015, 04:26:53
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(logic)
:thumb:
:))
I know what it is, I am just wondering if Mr. Giorgio also does
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 12 August 2015, 04:40:36
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 12 August 2015, 04:44:27
All the layouts but one are a minority.
What is the one true layout ? The one to rule them all?
Post by: awhitedev on Wed, 12 August 2015, 06:04:22
Post by: romevi on Wed, 12 August 2015, 07:39:53
You're all wrong! There shouldn't be scoops or nibs on F or J. Uniformity for life!Bro, do you even touch type?
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 12 August 2015, 07:54:43
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 12 August 2015, 08:31:10
I'll never understand why such a fundamental point is overlooked, with some group buys only offering scoops, other offering a dot, and others offering the only logical solution, the raised "homing bar" near the bottom edge on the 'F' and 'J' keys :-)
Is it easy to adapt?F and J have a dash or a deep dish?F/J are scooped :)a question about ship ways is that i could only choose first class of USPS but no USPS Priority to ship these keycaps to China.Hey, currently we're just doing USPS First Class for international orders unless it's a larger order. USPS Priority is what we're using for CONUS orders.
I want to choose USPS Priority, how i could change the ship ways? thank youIf you're having trouble with getting orders, maybe it's time to change the name to Hellgrau. Sounds badass and is the true name of the set color.Hellgrau is definitely the all (off-)white colour scheme prelim posted :))
#SCOOPS4LYFE
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 12 August 2015, 08:32:50
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 12 August 2015, 08:57:25
All the layouts but one are a minority.
Scoops really aren't a layout.
Have you used scoops before? If you have, offer some thoughts on why you prefer something else (rather than using the "fact" that homing bars are superior). If you have not, I think it's time to pick up an old Cherry set to try them out.
IMO, scoops are the best option. Many agree.
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 12 August 2015, 09:15:46
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 12 August 2015, 09:16:30
Post by: nickheller on Wed, 12 August 2015, 09:22:20
Post by: osi on Wed, 12 August 2015, 09:25:17
Post by: romevi on Wed, 12 August 2015, 09:33:30
I prefer bars on the f and j - scoops don't provide enough of a difference to immediately discern whether or not it is a scooped key. It could be a matter of becoming accustomed however.
That's how I am. I've been using bars for so long that when I tried scoops I found that I couldn't pinpoint F and J as quickly.
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 12 August 2015, 09:39:12
Post by: ATXTider on Wed, 12 August 2015, 10:07:56
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 12 August 2015, 10:33:38
I prefer bars on the f and j - scoops don't provide enough of a difference to immediately discern whether or not it is a scooped key. It could be a matter of becoming accustomed however.
That's how I am. I've been using bars for so long that when I tried scoops I found that I couldn't pinpoint F and J as quickly.
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 12 August 2015, 10:37:06
I can't spend 150 eur on a set and then waste time to become accustomed to it :-)))Jesus dude.. Just stop..
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 12 August 2015, 10:38:20
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 12 August 2015, 10:39:48
This thing about scoops is fundamental, and is wasn't even taken into consideration. I agree that the group leader has the last word, but at this point it should be clear that interests checks serve the only purpose of building the hype. Nothing else. The renderings are final, everything is final. And nothing is really discussed.
All the layouts but one are a minority.
Scoops really aren't a layout.
Have you used scoops before? If you have, offer some thoughts on why you prefer something else (rather than using the "fact" that homing bars are superior). If you have not, I think it's time to pick up an old Cherry set to try them out.
IMO, scoops are the best option. Many agree.
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 12 August 2015, 10:43:57
This thing about scoops is fundamental, and is wasn't even taken into consideration. I agree that the group leader has the last word, but at this point it should be clear that interests checks serve the only purpose of building the hype. Nothing else. The renderings are final, everything is final. And nothing is really discussed.You know that the 'Regarding classic beige' thread wasn't an IC, right? I just used that to keep people updated. There was a beige IC long before and nobody once mentioned wanting bars or anything other than scoops.
Post by: joey on Wed, 12 August 2015, 10:44:52
I can't wait for this set! :thumb:
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 12 August 2015, 10:59:31
Don't like scoops? Don't buy Cherry/GMK.
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 12 August 2015, 11:10:11
Cherry/GMK love = scoops love
Don't like scoops? Don't buy Cherry/GMK.
x2
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 12 August 2015, 11:12:48
This thing about scoops is fundamental, and is wasn't even taken into consideration. I agree that the group leader has the last word, but at this point it should be clear that interests checks serve the only purpose of building the hype. Nothing else. The renderings are final, everything is final. And nothing is really discussed.You know that the 'Regarding classic beige' thread wasn't an IC, right? I just used that to keep people updated. There was a beige IC long before and nobody once mentioned wanting bars or anything other than scoops.
Post by: admiralvorian on Wed, 12 August 2015, 12:29:28
For anyone that's scared due to the TA fiasco: I have a feeling it's due to the custom colors. They ran out of plastic and had to stretch it.
this set doesn't use any fancy made-to-order colors so they should have plenty of plastic to make some nice thick caps that we all love
...at least this is what I'm telling myself!
Post by: oomph on Wed, 12 August 2015, 12:45:06
The new run of CMYW has the same issue, and they're all regular colors. Taken from https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74258.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74258.0):
(http://i.imgur.com/YYCr4ml.jpg)
Doesn't affect me since I don't use backlit keyboards--but worth mentioning to those who haven't seen recent pics yet.
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 12 August 2015, 12:54:44
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg1114017#msg1114017
Is it me...or are the alphas more white?
Post by: ATXTider on Wed, 12 August 2015, 13:55:48
Okay...so I'm just browsing pictures through GH and I wanted to know if the alphas are the same color as Originative's Classic Beige. Here's a reference link:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg1114017#msg1114017
Is it me...or are the alphas more white?
I think Originative's are more white, but that's just my eyeballs, like yours.
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 12 August 2015, 14:37:57
Okay...so I'm just browsing pictures through GH and I wanted to know if the alphas are the same color as Originative's Classic Beige. Here's a reference link:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg1114017#msg1114017
Is it me...or are the alphas more white?
I think that's a camera issue. It's hard to capture the real color of the alphas.
Post by: kingslenkds on Wed, 12 August 2015, 22:53:44
Post by: harlw on Thu, 13 August 2015, 13:57:15
(http://f.cl.ly/items/3A1M2z3r0d270A2T2i3N/Screen%20Shot%202015-08-13%20at%20Aug%2013%20%7C%201.47.28%20PM.png)
Post by: Orca on Fri, 14 August 2015, 05:54:41
Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 14 August 2015, 07:22:37
I'm in on both this and RGBK, but I wouldn't expect the plastic thickness to be much better than TA's.
The new run of CMYW has the same issue, and they're all regular colors. Taken from https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74258.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74258.0):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YYCr4ml.jpg)
Doesn't affect me since I don't use backlit keyboards--but worth mentioning to those who haven't seen recent pics yet.
Photekq has already addressed this and will be contacting GMK about it before production. :thumb:
Post by: NorrisB on Fri, 14 August 2015, 10:04:31
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Fri, 14 August 2015, 12:21:25
Post by: oomph on Fri, 14 August 2015, 13:12:05
Photekq has already addressed this and will be contacting GMK about it before production. :thumb:
Awesome :)
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 14 August 2015, 13:21:32
I'm in on both this and RGBK, but I wouldn't expect the plastic thickness to be much better than TA's.
It has already been proven that there is NO difference in the thickness of the TA caps. The light bleed is due to the properties of the plastic mixture, and does not necessarily indicate lower quality.
Post by: oomph on Fri, 14 August 2015, 16:09:28
It has already been proven that there is NO difference in the thickness of the TA caps. The light bleed is due to the properties of the plastic mixture, and does not necessarily indicate lower quality.
Ah, thanks for the heads up. Changed my post to plastic mixture
Post by: admiralvorian on Fri, 14 August 2015, 17:39:55
My order no. is 52... are they sequential? Is that a good number for this stage of the buy?
<3 BEIGE
Post by: korrelate on Fri, 14 August 2015, 17:44:35
Okay...so I'm just browsing pictures through GH and I wanted to know if the alphas are the same color as Originative's Classic Beige. Here's a reference link:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg1114017#msg1114017
Is it me...or are the alphas more white?
it's not you: I bought a set from originative and those alphas are definitely un0001 and not L9. Originative's are considerably brighter.
Post by: NorrisB on Fri, 14 August 2015, 19:54:50
Post by: NorrisB on Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:25:00
Post by: NorrisB on Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:28:44
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 16 August 2015, 00:34:07
Absolutely perfect keysets and key selections photeqk everyone buy this ASAP!
Absolutely fantastic price as well PhoteqK, not only were the keysets perfectly thought out but the prices are fantastic. Everyone buy multiple sets of these while you can.
I will never doubt you again Photekq
Are you farming posts or why couldn't you say the same thing in a single post?
Please be more careful next time, so the thread doesn't get clogged up :thumb:
Post by: icyskyz on Sun, 16 August 2015, 09:35:47
Post by: swornxin on Sun, 16 August 2015, 10:42:43
Post by: shower_king on Sun, 16 August 2015, 21:06:21
putting in my order now!hi , i agree with what you have said..
For anyone that's scared due to the TA fiasco: I have a feeling it's due to the custom colors. They ran out of plastic and had to stretch it.
this set doesn't use any fancy made-to-order colors so they should have plenty of plastic to make some nice thick caps that we all love
...at least this is what I'm telling myself!
Post by: tmk1207 on Mon, 17 August 2015, 03:57:46
Post by: NorrisB on Tue, 18 August 2015, 19:48:37
Post by: admiralvorian on Wed, 19 August 2015, 07:51:45
How is this nearly on page 2 with a perfect key selection like that?
No idea, this is gonna be an amazing set!
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:03:47
Then the orders will start flowing.
Post by: awhitedev on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:28:47
We just need people to receive Hyperfuse then they'll realise that the quality problem of Triumph Adler is due to custom color.
Then the orders will start flowing.
This. I know the quality concerns are most likely not an issue but I would love to receive my first GMK set to just be sure :) I know it was said before... but I suspect that because money is being collected up front people are probably waiting till closer to the end to jump in.
Post by: sorijealut on Wed, 19 August 2015, 21:42:50
Thanks for bringing this, I've been waiting!
Post by: gameaholic on Thu, 20 August 2015, 05:44:56
Post by: Applet on Sat, 22 August 2015, 09:53:28
Post by: 64rky on Sat, 22 August 2015, 11:41:50
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sun, 23 August 2015, 09:50:12
Any potential discount for buying a large amount of sets (10+)?Does this mean you might possibly sell some of these sets after the buy concludes?
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 23 August 2015, 09:53:25
Soooo... Where are we with this, did I miss an update? Are we close to MOQ?It's tough to say with the MOQ, since there are a few communities (such as Vietnamese and Chinese) which are still collecting orders.
Post by: NorrisB on Sun, 23 August 2015, 09:58:58
Post by: Tuntematon on Mon, 24 August 2015, 20:54:30
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 24 August 2015, 21:13:15
Why are the extra spacebars offered in L9 instead of U9? The main set already has L9 spacebars, so U9 spacebars would make more sense, no?
Because that way you have proper replacement spacebars. I personally don't want my spacebar the same color as my mods.
Post by: Tuntematon on Mon, 24 August 2015, 21:21:18
Why are the extra spacebars offered in L9 instead of U9? The main set already has L9 spacebars, so U9 spacebars would make more sense, no?
Because that way you have proper replacement spacebars. I personally don't want my spacebar the same color as my mods.
I personally like it both ways, having a solid single-colour line along the whole bottom row feels good sometimes. It would be nice to have the option, but it's not a big deal.
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 25 August 2015, 02:58:37
Where is the love for this classic color scheme?! I really hope this is only because people don't wanna pay immediately and are waiting to place a last minute order...
Post by: Hzza on Tue, 25 August 2015, 03:02:13
Oh boy, it's really a shame that this thread only has 7 pages :(I'm waiting for payday before I place my order, should be early next week (not that one extra set is going to make much of a difference :D).
Where is the love for this classic color scheme?! I really hope this is only because people don't wanna pay immediately and are waiting to place a last minute order...
Post by: shower_king on Tue, 25 August 2015, 03:09:06
Oh boy, it's really a shame that this thread only has 7 pages :(
Where is the love for this classic color scheme?! I really hope this is only because people don't wanna pay immediately and are waiting to place a last minute order...
There are so many GMK' gb, I think many people would save money for this beige classic and pay them at a adequate time.
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 25 August 2015, 04:30:46
Post by: NorrisB on Tue, 25 August 2015, 09:47:14
Post by: romevi on Tue, 25 August 2015, 11:33:04
I know, I know; I'm *that* guy.
Post by: Applet on Tue, 25 August 2015, 11:34:36
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 25 August 2015, 20:20:18
I'm just waiting to see if paypal opens up as an option.He said if you absolutely had to pay w/ PayPal to just PM him
I know, I know; I'm *that* guy.
Post by: nickheller on Tue, 25 August 2015, 20:44:24
Post by: romevi on Tue, 25 August 2015, 21:00:09
Oh, I did. I just read somewhere that he's waiting to see if he'll open it up via the GB page toward the end of the run.I'm just waiting to see if paypal opens up as an option.He said if you absolutely had to pay w/ PayPal to just PM him
I know, I know; I'm *that* guy.
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 26 August 2015, 11:28:03
Post by: Luke on Thu, 27 August 2015, 04:16:49
2. Extra set [20pcs]Show Image(http://precision-buys.com/images/20pcs.jpg)
I've just stumbled across this group buy after being away from the forum for some time but I am interested in joining for the Extra set so that I have the keys needed for an ISO set. I was just wondering why the ISO hash key isn't included?
This one:
(http://static.flickr.com/2454/5751174300_fdfe627d80.jpg)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 27 August 2015, 04:30:06
Photekq chose the "|\" for the Row 3 Alpha. If I am not mistaken this is the ISO UK version.
Having said that, I am still sad the R4 ISO alpha key is blank.
I would prefer a random ISO legend on it. A blank key among all the other keys with legends just looks odd :(
Post by: Luke on Thu, 27 August 2015, 04:38:09
That's because this key has different legends for all the ISO languages.
Photekq chose the "|\" for the Row 3 Alpha. If I am not mistaken this is the ISO UK version.
Having said that, I am still sad the R4 ISO alpha key is blank.
I would prefer a random ISO legend on it. A blank key among all the other keys with legends just looks odd :(
Ok. The UK version is not the "|\" key, that is found on R4 next to the short shift key. The R3 key is the "#~" key that I mentioned. That's a shame.
Here is the UK layout:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/ISO_keyboard_(105)_QWERTY_UK.svg/750px-ISO_keyboard_(105)_QWERTY_UK.svg.png)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 27 August 2015, 04:49:37
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout
Most languages use the "#". I have no idea why it's not used in this GB.
Still, the blank R4 key is worse for me than the wrong legend on this one ;)
Post by: Blackhawk on Thu, 27 August 2015, 05:04:18
It's R3. The extra kit was originally around 53 keys, and had 10 or so keys dedicated to perfect UK ISO including icon only tab/backspace. However, it was wildly expensive, so I cut many things out. I also reduced UK ISO to US ISO, which is what you see there now. There's two ways of doing US ISO and both are correct - the way I have it with one blank R4 and one blank |\, or one R3 |\ and one R4 |\. I decided to go with the current setup for no particular reason, although I am considering switching to the 2x |\ setup for consistency (all keys would have legends rather than having one random blank). This wouldn't change the cost of the set.
From the pre-group-buy thread. :)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 27 August 2015, 05:07:26
It's R3. The extra kit was originally around 53 keys, and had 10 or so keys dedicated to perfect UK ISO including icon only tab/backspace. However, it was wildly expensive, so I cut many things out. I also reduced UK ISO to US ISO, which is what you see there now. There's two ways of doing US ISO and both are correct - the way I have it with one blank R4 and one blank |\, or one R3 |\ and one R4 |\. I decided to go with the current setup for no particular reason, although I am considering switching to the 2x |\ setup for consistency (all keys would have legends rather than having one random blank). This wouldn't change the cost of the set.
From the pre-group-buy thread. :)
Thanks!
I really hope Photekq considers switching to the 2x |\ setup for consistency. The set would look so much better without a blank key!
Post by: Blackhawk on Thu, 27 August 2015, 05:09:06
It's R3. The extra kit was originally around 53 keys, and had 10 or so keys dedicated to perfect UK ISO including icon only tab/backspace. However, it was wildly expensive, so I cut many things out. I also reduced UK ISO to US ISO, which is what you see there now. There's two ways of doing US ISO and both are correct - the way I have it with one blank R4 and one blank |\, or one R3 |\ and one R4 |\. I decided to go with the current setup for no particular reason, although I am considering switching to the 2x |\ setup for consistency (all keys would have legends rather than having one random blank). This wouldn't change the cost of the set.
From the pre-group-buy thread. :)
Thanks!
I really hope Photekq considers switching to the 2x |\ setup for consistency. The set would look so much better without a blank key!
Yeah, I also prefer 2x |\ keys. Looked great on Ivans dolch set.
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 27 August 2015, 11:29:12
I've just stumbled across this group buy after being away from the forum for some time but I am interested in joining for the Extra set so that I have the keys needed for an ISO set. I was just wondering why the ISO hash key isn't included?So, as I've explained a few times..
This one:Show Image(http://static.flickr.com/2454/5751174300_fdfe627d80.jpg)
ISO is the layout of key sizes. There are many, many regional ISO layouts with different legends. UK ISO is just one of them.
Originally the extra set contained the keys necessary for a perfect US ANSI -> UK ISO conversion, however it was an expensive and large set at the time (53 keys). I decided to cut a lot of things out. One of the things I did was switch UK ISO to US ISO. US ISO requires the lowest number of keys for a conversion. It means that everyone will be able to fill an ISO keyboard with this keyset, just not with their regional legends.
Having that blank R4 key or having a \| key instead are both equally valid for US ISO, and I have been considering swapping the blank for a \| key. I still may do this.
Post by: Luke on Thu, 27 August 2015, 11:35:56
I've just stumbled across this group buy after being away from the forum for some time but I am interested in joining for the Extra set so that I have the keys needed for an ISO set. I was just wondering why the ISO hash key isn't included?So, as I've explained a few times..
This one:Show Image(http://static.flickr.com/2454/5751174300_fdfe627d80.jpg)
ISO is the layout of key sizes. There are many, many regional ISO layouts with different legends. UK ISO is just one of them.
Originally the extra set contained the keys necessary for a perfect US ANSI -> UK ISO conversion, however it was an expensive and large set at the time (53 keys). I decided to cut a lot of things out. One of the things I did was switch UK ISO to US ISO. US ISO requires the lowest number of keys for a conversion. It means that everyone will be able to fill an ISO keyboard with this keyset, just not with their regional legends.
Having that blank R4 key or having a \| key instead are both equally valid for US ISO, and I have been considering swapping the blank for a \| key. I still may do this.
Ok, thanks for the explanation. I'll try my hand at finding an original Cherry UK ISO set, if not I may be ordering the Extra set :)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 27 August 2015, 15:33:39
I have been considering swapping the blank for a \| key. I still may do this.
(http://i.giphy.com/Z0dvuZszc3r3i.gif)
Post by: NorrisB on Thu, 27 August 2015, 17:28:21
I've just stumbled across this group buy after being away from the forum for some time but I am interested in joining for the Extra set so that I have the keys needed for an ISO set. I was just wondering why the ISO hash key isn't included?So, as I've explained a few times..
This one:Show Image(http://static.flickr.com/2454/5751174300_fdfe627d80.jpg)
ISO is the layout of key sizes. There are many, many regional ISO layouts with different legends. UK ISO is just one of them.
Originally the extra set contained the keys necessary for a perfect US ANSI -> UK ISO conversion, however it was an expensive and large set at the time (53 keys). I decided to cut a lot of things out. One of the things I did was switch UK ISO to US ISO. US ISO requires the lowest number of keys for a conversion. It means that everyone will be able to fill an ISO keyboard with this keyset, just not with their regional legends.
Having that blank R4 key or having a \| key instead are both equally valid for US ISO, and I have been considering swapping the blank for a \| key. I still may do this.
Just leave it as it is, people had months to say something about the key selections
Post by: 64rky on Thu, 27 August 2015, 18:34:01
Post by: NorrisB on Thu, 27 August 2015, 21:55:20
Post by: shower_king on Thu, 27 August 2015, 23:48:18
If we couldn't hit MOQ, do we extend deadline or do something to meet MOQ?
EC have got about 16 orders
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 28 August 2015, 01:07:28
I've just stumbled across this group buy after being away from the forum for some time but I am interested in joining for the Extra set so that I have the keys needed for an ISO set. I was just wondering why the ISO hash key isn't included?So, as I've explained a few times..
This one:Show Image(http://static.flickr.com/2454/5751174300_fdfe627d80.jpg)
ISO is the layout of key sizes. There are many, many regional ISO layouts with different legends. UK ISO is just one of them.
Originally the extra set contained the keys necessary for a perfect US ANSI -> UK ISO conversion, however it was an expensive and large set at the time (53 keys). I decided to cut a lot of things out. One of the things I did was switch UK ISO to US ISO. US ISO requires the lowest number of keys for a conversion. It means that everyone will be able to fill an ISO keyboard with this keyset, just not with their regional legends.
Having that blank R4 key or having a \| key instead are both equally valid for US ISO, and I have been considering swapping the blank for a \| key. I still may do this.
Just leave it as it is, people had months to say something about the key selections
That's not entirely true.
Technically Photekq didn't even run an IC and everytime someone said something about other options he replied that everything is final. So I think it's fair to propose such a minor change now especially after he brought the option up himself.
I have placed my order right after the GB launched, so it's not a dealbreaker for me, but I would appreciate a non-blank R4 ISO alpha key anyway :thumb:
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 28 August 2015, 01:10:00
Anyone have a photo of how this will look?
This is a product pic from Originative:
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/products/IMG_1276_1024x1024.jpg?v=1383359922)
Notice the screwed up TAB legend. We will have this fixed in this set, plus we have legends on the 1unit winkeys!
This is a pic of Dangwang's LZ with a vintage Cherry beige set:
(http://i.imgur.com/tuLsm.jpg)
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 28 August 2015, 13:50:47
Just wanted to check if the 400 hit marker to support 1800 is near?We're not at 250 yet! :X
Hi,where are we now? there are half month left. the skidata replic set almost happen, which may have some effect on reaching MOQ of classic beige.I'm not sure what we'll do if MOQ isn't reached by the deadline. I'm just going to wait until the deadline is reached and see where we are, then make a decision.
If we couldn't hit MOQ, do we extend deadline or do something to meet MOQ?
EC have got about 16 orders
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 28 August 2015, 14:17:33
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 28 August 2015, 14:21:29
250 is the minimum amount of orders we must have, correct?Correct.
Post by: s3vv4 on Fri, 28 August 2015, 14:54:58
Probably more people would join if paypal was an option than just the people that sent you a message about it.
Post by: ATXTider on Fri, 28 August 2015, 18:06:35
Post by: s3vv4 on Fri, 28 August 2015, 18:45:46
I _really_ don't get why using Stripe is a problem.
It requires a credit card, which PayPal does not.
Post by: 64rky on Fri, 28 August 2015, 19:16:02
I _really_ don't get why using Stripe is a problem.
Nor do I! You don't need an account, you just need a card. Bam. I had never even heard of stripe until this, and just signed up, put my numbers down and that was that.
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 28 August 2015, 19:30:04
Post by: romevi on Fri, 28 August 2015, 19:30:16
I can see that. Not everyone has a credit card.I _really_ don't get why using Stripe is a problem.
It requires a credit card, which PayPal does not.
Post by: romevi on Fri, 28 August 2015, 19:31:43
Why is using Paypal a problem?PayPal can be a hassle for large orders that don't ship right away. It's great for buyers; not so great for sellers of large quantities.
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 28 August 2015, 19:33:37
Also a ***** for people under 18Why is using Paypal a problem?PayPal can be a hassle for large orders that don't ship right away. It's great for buyers; not so great for sellers of large quantities.
Post by: shower_king on Fri, 28 August 2015, 19:45:09
On EC, those who couldn't pay by Stripe have paid for this classic beige to a proxy in China.
IF it doesn't happen at last, we'll get our money returned.
Meanwhile, a BSP GB has been launched until 2015.9.3
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0d.6639537.1997196601.35.JjpV9F&id=520770399490
i also wanna join in this GB, but i have to save money for skidata replic set.
If claasic beige couldn't make it, i will change this to BSP. if classic beige success, i will join this and give up BSP.So whether classic beige success or not is very important to me.
The worst thing is that i join classic beige and give up BSP then finally classic beige fail to happen but BSP succeed.
there are half a month , i don' worry about this, we have enough time to work and make this happen. Good luck.
Post by: shower_king on Fri, 28 August 2015, 19:46:58
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Post by: shower_king on Fri, 28 August 2015, 20:43:49
My suggestion is that we could link classic beige to skidata replic GMK set and make classic beige become a part of skidata. If skidata set hit the MOQ, then the classis beige don't need MOQ. Both sets will be produced by GMK as a complete order.
ps: the alfha of classic beige is compatible with Reverse-Skidata Add-on Pack quite well.
Post by: bullo16 on Sat, 29 August 2015, 05:10:53
(http://i.imgur.com/iQzG5w6.jpg)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 29 August 2015, 05:15:44
No possibility of including the moogle kit with spacebar?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iQzG5w6.jpg)
I'd buy 3 of those, but I guess this would make it even more difficult for the main set to hit MOQ.
Maybe that's a possibility with JT keycaps in the future!
Post by: bullo16 on Sat, 29 August 2015, 05:28:46
No possibility of including the moogle kit with spacebar?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iQzG5w6.jpg)
I'd buy 3 of those, but I guess this would make it even more difficult for the main set to hit MOQ.
Maybe that's a possibility with JT keycaps in the future!
I think it should not influence the number of sales of the complete set. The moogle kit is for people like me who have keycaps from a G81-1000 .
I don´t think someone will buy the complete set for 7 keys and a spacebar ...
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 29 August 2015, 05:37:24
We have seen this with many GBs before, so I doubt Photekq will do that.
Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 29 August 2015, 10:04:03
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 29 August 2015, 11:34:02
Post by: s3vv4 on Sat, 29 August 2015, 12:01:51
Stripe doesn't need a credit card, you can use a debit card too if you have one.
How do I do this?
Post by: jd29 on Sat, 29 August 2015, 12:22:23
Stripe doesn't need a credit card, you can use a debit card too if you have one.
How do I do this?
With mine, I just put in my card details. If it doesn't go through you'll have to call your bank and verify the transaction is yours.
For people who don't have cards, you can just buy one of those prepaid cards for $5.
Post by: 64rky on Sat, 29 August 2015, 12:36:37
Stripe doesn't need a credit card, you can use a debit card too if you have one.
How do I do this?
With mine, I just put in my card details. If it doesn't go through you'll have to call your bank and verify the transaction is yours.
For people who don't have cards, you can just buy one of those prepaid cards for $5.
So...
- Don't need a PP account
- Don't need any account
- Can use Debit or Credit or Pre-Paid Card
SIMPLE!
Let's get on this people, we need this to not only hit MOQ, but also 400 so we can get the 1800 support!!
Post by: jd29 on Sat, 29 August 2015, 12:55:17
For people who don't have cards, you can just buy one of those prepaid cards for $5.So...
- Can use Debit or Credit or Pre-Paid Card
Heads up before someone gets a prepaid card, it looks like only Visa, MasterCard, and American Express will work.
https://support.stripe.com/questions/which-cards-and-payment-types-can-i-accept-with-stripe
Post by: Mattr567 on Sat, 29 August 2015, 14:13:00
Post by: NorrisB on Sat, 29 August 2015, 15:02:09
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 29 August 2015, 15:04:33
Post by: s3vv4 on Sat, 29 August 2015, 17:48:13
Stripe doesn't need a credit card, you can use a debit card too if you have one.
How do I do this?
With mine, I just put in my card details. If it doesn't go through you'll have to call your bank and verify the transaction is yours.
For people who don't have cards, you can just buy one of those prepaid cards for $5.
I guess it doesn't support Maestro, it states "incorrect card number" when I enter my debit card information :/
It seems I won't be able to participate unless PayPal is an option. Will this eventually be an option, because I don't want to get an RGBK set without this.
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 29 August 2015, 18:05:11
Post by: s3vv4 on Sat, 29 August 2015, 20:00:18
PayPal is an option you have to pm him
I did sent a message regarding that, but I think that was just to gauge the need for PayPal, as in, if just a handful of people need PayPal, I won't bother with it.
Post by: olijuice on Sat, 29 August 2015, 23:44:32
Post by: NorrisB on Sun, 30 August 2015, 10:00:24
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 30 August 2015, 10:08:05
can someone explain why there is two sets of arrow keys?
One is Row 4 and one is Row 5 :thumb:
Post by: radio_killah on Sun, 30 August 2015, 10:09:17
can someone explain why there is two sets of arrow keys?One set is row 5 like og cherry and one set is row 4 to accommodate the more modern sets which have the bottom 2 rows the same profile.
Post by: 64rky on Sun, 30 August 2015, 10:09:22
can someone explain why there is two sets of arrow keys?
The second (bottom row) set is R5. Not sure what board layout that's for.
Post by: ATXTider on Sun, 30 August 2015, 10:41:09
Edit: ^ What Radio said ^can someone explain why there is two sets of arrow keys?
The second (bottom row) set is R5. Not sure what board layout that's for.
Winkeyless layouts that would use the rest of the R5 keys?
Post by: NorrisB on Sun, 30 August 2015, 17:07:52
Post by: ATXTider on Sun, 30 August 2015, 17:47:12
Whats the purpose of that 4th extra arrow key in the extra set? Will the 3 keys in the main set support the OG cherry?
Looks like a 1u backspace key to me.
Post by: 64rky on Sun, 30 August 2015, 18:14:38
Whats the purpose of that 4th extra arrow key in the extra set? Will the 3 keys in the main set support the OG cherry?
Looks like a 1u backspace key to me.
Ooo, if only there was a R1 etc, ctrl, and alt, as well, that could sit on my 3700.... :)
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 30 August 2015, 18:17:59
Whats the purpose of that 4th extra arrow key in the extra set? Will the 3 keys in the main set support the OG cherry?
Looks like a 1u backspace key to me.
Ooo, if only there was a R1 etc, ctrl, and alt, as well, that could sit on my 3700.... :)
3700 top row keys would be sweet.
Post by: swornxin on Sun, 30 August 2015, 20:15:38
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 31 August 2015, 15:33:10
Post by: katushkin on Mon, 31 August 2015, 15:41:46
PayPal is an option you have to pm him
I did sent a message regarding that, but I think that was just to gauge the need for PayPal, as in, if just a handful of people need PayPal, I won't bother with it.
I think it's so he can get you in on the group buy if stripe is the only thing standing between you and paying. At the end of the day, photek just wants this to happen, so everyone can have a kickass beige set. If you PHYSICALLY CANNOT pay by stripe, for whatever reason, then let him know, and maybe he can sort something out for you so you can get in on this.
Post by: Paspie on Mon, 31 August 2015, 16:09:28
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 31 August 2015, 16:17:05
I would love this set, sadly the price is astronomical for me, especially as I've just ordered a full, white, double-shot, ABS key set in the UK ISO layout, at less than a quarter of the price for this.The two sets cannot really be compared. Doubleshot doesn't mean that the quality and aesthetics come close to GMK keycaps.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 31 August 2015, 16:38:52
Speaking of quality, no custom colors this time, right? We can keep our hopes up for higher quality than TA?I would love this set, sadly the price is astronomical for me, especially as I've just ordered a full, white, double-shot, ABS key set in the UK ISO layout, at less than a quarter of the price for this.The two sets cannot really be compared. Doubleshot doesn't mean that the quality and aesthetics come close to GMK keycaps.
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 31 August 2015, 16:47:46
Speaking of quality, no custom colors this time, right? We can keep our hopes up for higher quality than TA?I would love this set, sadly the price is astronomical for me, especially as I've just ordered a full, white, double-shot, ABS key set in the UK ISO layout, at less than a quarter of the price for this.The two sets cannot really be compared. Doubleshot doesn't mean that the quality and aesthetics come close to GMK keycaps.
Indeed. Cody already confirmed that the caps from the GMK Hyperfuse GB, which didn't use custom colors either, have no quality issues :thumb:
Post by: jd29 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 23:16:08
Edit: I'm #70.
Post by: korrelate on Tue, 01 September 2015, 00:42:25
Post by: Paspie on Tue, 01 September 2015, 09:06:32
I know, but why would I pay an extra £100 for GMK versions, when I could replace the ABS' more than five times each time they get shiny, before they would be worth the extra dosh.I would love this set, sadly the price is astronomical for me, especially as I've just ordered a full, white, double-shot, ABS key set in the UK ISO layout, at less than a quarter of the price for this.The two sets cannot really be compared. Doubleshot doesn't mean that the quality and aesthetics come close to GMK keycaps.
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 01 September 2015, 09:12:11
I know, but why would I pay an extra £100 for GMK versions, when I could replace the ABS' more than five times each time they get shiny, before they would be worth the extra dosh.I would love this set, sadly the price is astronomical for me, especially as I've just ordered a full, white, double-shot, ABS key set in the UK ISO layout, at less than a quarter of the price for this.The two sets cannot really be compared. Doubleshot doesn't mean that the quality and aesthetics come close to GMK keycaps.
I'm assuming you're speaking of the ukkeycaps GB of Tai-Hao?
If so, Gmk classic beige would be: better quality, better printing, cherry profile, better keycaps selection.
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 01 September 2015, 09:14:46
I know, but why would I pay an extra £100 for GMK versions, when I could replace the ABS' more than five times each time they get shiny, before they would be worth the extra dosh.I would love this set, sadly the price is astronomical for me, especially as I've just ordered a full, white, double-shot, ABS key set in the UK ISO layout, at less than a quarter of the price for this.The two sets cannot really be compared. Doubleshot doesn't mean that the quality and aesthetics come close to GMK keycaps.
Because of the feel of the keycaps. I don't know anybody who prefers flimsy OEM caps over thick GMK caps. On top of that I strongly prefer cherry profile for typing.
Of course this is personal preference. You should just try them yourself and then decide. You could always sell the set at cost right after you received them in case you don't love GMK :thumb:
Post by: 64rky on Tue, 01 September 2015, 10:29:05
I know, but why would I pay an extra £100 for GMK versions, when I could replace the ABS' more than five times each time they get shiny, before they would be worth the extra dosh.I would love this set, sadly the price is astronomical for me, especially as I've just ordered a full, white, double-shot, ABS key set in the UK ISO layout, at less than a quarter of the price for this.The two sets cannot really be compared. Doubleshot doesn't mean that the quality and aesthetics come close to GMK keycaps.
Because of the feel of the keycaps. I don't know anybody who prefers flimsy OEM caps over thick GMK caps. On top of that I strongly prefer cherry profile for typing.
Of course this is personal preference. You should just try them yourself and then decide. You could always sell the set at cost right after you received them in case you don't love GMK :thumb:
Go on, join us, the water is lovely, all the cool kids are doing it, go on :D
Post by: Tuntematon on Tue, 01 September 2015, 13:01:25
Post by: ATXTider on Tue, 01 September 2015, 13:05:50
I know it's too late now, but why no 1.25u FN key? It's common (CM, Ducky, Leopold) and it's only one key, could have been thrown in with the extras.
Just use the 'Menu' Key, like folks do for all the other GMK sets.
Post by: icyskyz on Wed, 02 September 2015, 00:35:51
That is how I solve the problem!I know it's too late now, but why no 1.25u FN key? It's common (CM, Ducky, Leopold) and it's only one key, could have been thrown in with the extras.
Just use the 'Menu' Key, like folks do for all the other GMK sets.
Post by: Tuntematon on Wed, 02 September 2015, 12:06:55
That is how I solve the problem!I know it's too late now, but why no 1.25u FN key? It's common (CM, Ducky, Leopold) and it's only one key, could have been thrown in with the extras.
Just use the 'Menu' Key, like folks do for all the other GMK sets.
Sure, there are solutions, this set has a blank 1.25, which I plan to use. But why is there a problem in the first place? Why do no GMK sets have this key cap?
Post by: icyskyz on Wed, 02 September 2015, 12:45:02
That is how I solve the problem!I know it's too late now, but why no 1.25u FN key? It's common (CM, Ducky, Leopold) and it's only one key, could have been thrown in with the extras.
Just use the 'Menu' Key, like folks do for all the other GMK sets.
Sure, there are solutions, this set has a blank 1.25, which I plan to use. But why is there a problem in the first place? Why do no GMK sets have this key cap?
To be honest, I never thought of this to be a problem. I just replace the keycaps as shown in the render, and did not bother if it is menu key or Fn key since the icon represents either way for me.
I am not sure if GMK makes 1.25u Fn key, because I have never seen one personally.
Post by: swornxin on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:51:20
I think Ivan said in the Dolch buy that they don't have the 1.25 Fn.That is how I solve the problem!I know it's too late now, but why no 1.25u FN key? It's common (CM, Ducky, Leopold) and it's only one key, could have been thrown in with the extras.
Just use the 'Menu' Key, like folks do for all the other GMK sets.
Sure, there are solutions, this set has a blank 1.25, which I plan to use. But why is there a problem in the first place? Why do no GMK sets have this key cap?
To be honest, I never thought of this to be a problem. I just replace the keycaps as shown in the render, and did not bother if it is menu key or Fn key since the icon represents either way for me.
I am not sure if GMK makes 1.25u Fn key, because I have never seen one personally.
Post by: jaffers on Thu, 03 September 2015, 09:36:47
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 03 September 2015, 12:11:42
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 03 September 2015, 12:54:55
How thick does the plastic in GMK sets tend to be?
As thick as it gets :D
Check this thread for more information:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58094.0
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 04 September 2015, 23:24:59
I'll leave it open until the 13th and then assess the situation.
Post by: romevi on Fri, 04 September 2015, 23:36:54
Right now the order count is not looking promising. I seriously doubt MOQ will be reached unless a huge number of orders come in during this last week. We are not even at half the required orders for the main set, and not even at 50 for the extra set.
I'll leave it open until the 13th and then assess the situation.
Oh, damn. I'm planning on ordering but haven't yet. Just waiting for some things to sell and money to roll in. This set is just too gorgeous to pass up.
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 04 September 2015, 23:41:58
Post by: shower_king on Sat, 05 September 2015, 01:41:44
The main hinderance to impede hitting MOQ is not which way to pay for this.
Too many GMK's GB happen at a congested time drain the wallet up.
sorry for that i have no time to wait for this . i will cancell my order and change my two classic beige main sets to BSP' GB.
Sorry for that .GOOD LUCK!!
PS:link classic beige to skidata replic set as a complete order is a effcient way to make this happen , however all depend on you and support you for ever.good job.
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 05 September 2015, 02:18:36
What's the worst that can happen? If MOQ is not reached, you will have lost access to a little bit of money for a week or so, but you'll be refunded in full.
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 05 September 2015, 02:26:20
Right now the order count is not looking promising. I seriously doubt MOQ will be reached unless a huge number of orders come in during this last week. We are not even at half the required orders for the main set, and not even at 50 for the extra set.
I'll leave it open until the 13th and then assess the situation.
Wow, that is really disappointing :(
I thought the extra set even had better numbers or was that just after launch?
Let's hope there will be an influx of orders at the very last minute (as usual...) :thumb:
Post by: joey on Sat, 05 September 2015, 02:52:01
Post by: Pieminister on Sat, 05 September 2015, 06:24:42
With PayPal, even though I know it is irrational, it felt alittle bit more comfortable taking the dive because I wasn't actually paying then and there . It's easier to commit to something when you don't feel te pain right away ;)
Post by: filphil on Sat, 05 September 2015, 06:55:51
I am really looking forward to this set, and honestly the reason I haven't ordered yet is because of my irrational fear of having to pay up front, without knowing if we reach MOQ and also the uncertainty of what happens if the main kit reaches MOQ but the extras don't (which are essential to me). iI guess i just always assumed it would be a breeze to reach the MOQ and I would just hop on last minute.
With PayPal, even though I know it is irrational, it felt alittle bit more comfortable taking the dive because I wasn't actually paying then and there . It's easier to commit to something when you don't feel te pain right away ;)
It's easier for people to back out if you don't have to pay to sign up.
Post by: 64rky on Sat, 05 September 2015, 08:56:25
Post by: joey on Sat, 05 September 2015, 09:02:33
Elrick, GMK hyper, please?!
Post by: kekstee on Sat, 05 September 2015, 10:36:19
So, I don't think it's the key selection which is wrong. Maybe it hit a bad spot between TA and Skidata? Alternatively you can make it stupidly flashy by going Olivetti or Red Alert for the next classic beige try some time in the future. :/
Post by: filphil on Sat, 05 September 2015, 10:49:02
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 05 September 2015, 10:57:44
Post by: swornxin on Sat, 05 September 2015, 11:12:49
Post by: ATXTider on Sat, 05 September 2015, 11:30:11
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 05 September 2015, 11:39:28
OR maybe make a mini set to help people with OG cherry sets fit modern boards
Post by: romevi on Sat, 05 September 2015, 11:40:38
Post by: awhitedev on Sat, 05 September 2015, 12:19:34
Post by: korrelate on Sat, 05 September 2015, 12:36:14
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 05 September 2015, 12:38:51
It sounds like a lot of orders are about to come in. When you collect money up front you have to expect things will progress slowly. Now that it's coming to an end... I would imagine the majority of orders will come in now. I bet we'll meet MOQ on both sets. I'm hopeful :)
I share your optimism :thumb:
I am still glad I placed my order right at launch so my set will be shipped first :D
Post by: icyskyz on Sat, 05 September 2015, 12:49:52
I had also heard that we were going to get a bunch of orders from Chinese and perhaps Korean enthusiast communities. Did those not happen?
As far as I know, deadline for GMK classic beige group buy orders from Chinese is on 9/6. There are probably 30 ~ 40 orders from Chinese community. I am not sure about orders from Korean tho.
Post by: Pieminister on Sat, 05 September 2015, 12:50:13
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 05 September 2015, 12:56:14
Just to clarify, what would happen if I bought both the main and the addon set and then only the main set reaches MOQ? As an ISO user, I need both sets. Would i have the option to back out or would my money automatically go towards the main set GB?
I can't speak for Photekq of course, but I assume you can back out without a problem.
This is no rip-off sale, but a community GB :thumb:
Post by: zaarx on Sat, 05 September 2015, 16:56:55
Just to clarify, what would happen if I bought both the main and the addon set and then only the main set reaches MOQ? As an ISO user, I need both sets. Would i have the option to back out or would my money automatically go towards the main set GB?
I can't speak for Photekq of course, but I assume you can back out without a problem.
This is no rip-off sale, but a community GB :thumb:
I have been wondering about this too and haven't ordered since I don't wanna end up with just an ANSI set.
Post by: joey on Sat, 05 September 2015, 17:08:45
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 05 September 2015, 17:09:55
If everyone thinks like that, we won't make MOQ.+1
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 05 September 2015, 17:17:17
I would encourage everyone to order under the assumption that MOQ will be reached. If everyone takes the attitude of "well, we're not near the MOQ so there's no point in ordering.." then of course MOQ will not be reached.
Post by: joey on Sat, 05 September 2015, 17:18:31
Everyone ORDER NOW!
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 05 September 2015, 17:19:21
Lord Photekq has spoken.
Everyone ORDER NOW!
#2
Post by: romevi on Sat, 05 September 2015, 18:01:43
Lord Photekq has spoken.This, tbh.
Everyone ORDER NOW!
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 05 September 2015, 18:24:07
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 05 September 2015, 18:40:22
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 05 September 2015, 18:46:08
I will see if I can buy some sets for my store, but I am not sure.Dooooo it. I know that I won't be able to purchase the extra set that I want from this buy, but I would happily purchase one at a slightly marked up price later when I have the funds, especially if I was supporting your store!
Post by: FunkMasterJ on Sat, 05 September 2015, 18:52:23
Post by: HannahPeach on Sat, 05 September 2015, 19:46:05
Post by: shower_king on Sat, 05 September 2015, 20:50:37
It sounds like a lot of orders are about to come in. When you collect money up front you have to expect things will progress slowly. Now that it's coming to an end... I would imagine the majority of orders will come in now. I bet we'll meet MOQ on both sets. I'm hopeful :)
I had also heard that we were going to get a bunch of orders from Chinese and perhaps Korean enthusiast communities. Did those not happen?
i don't know how many orders will come from Korea, but the orders come from China is around 30 and this all accumulate almost one month.
Even in the last week, this could not double to 60.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.0.0.uyw8jz&id=521209815367&_u=6cloir582e
So please don't take a large bunch of orders will come from China for granted just as the RGBK have done.
Meanwhile, this classic beige is less popular than the BSP's GB. Many people buy four even more sets of BSP but not even buy one classic beige.
So please please please don't spread rumors that a lot of orders will come from China and create a false impression that classic beige will definite come true after adding the Chinese orders.
Please please please don't spread rumors, which will hurt eveybody who wanna to join in this .
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 05 September 2015, 21:03:16
It sounds like a lot of orders are about to come in. When you collect money up front you have to expect things will progress slowly. Now that it's coming to an end... I would imagine the majority of orders will come in now. I bet we'll meet MOQ on both sets. I'm hopeful :)I had also heard that we were going to get a bunch of orders from Chinese and perhaps Korean enthusiast communities. Did those not happen?
i don't know how many orders will come from Korea, but the orders come from China is around 30 and this all accumualte almost one month.
Even in the last week, this could not double to 60.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.0.0.uyw8jz&id=521209815367&_u=6cloir582e
So please don't take a large bunch of orders will come from China for granted just as the RGBK have done.
Meanwhile, this classic beige is less popular than the BSP's GB. Many people buy four even more sets of BSP but not even buy one classic beige.
So please please please don't spread rumors that a lot of orders will come from China and create a false impression that classic beige will definite come true after adding the Chinese orders.
Please please please don't spread rumors, which will hurt eveybody who wanna to join in this .
Bad news :(
Post by: sddsww on Sat, 05 September 2015, 21:25:13
Post by: romevi on Sun, 06 September 2015, 00:21:42
Is that the one on IMSTO's site? Can someone explain to me what Peacock is? Is that just a recreation of an older board, which would explain the special side-printed legends?
Post by: shower_king on Sun, 06 September 2015, 00:37:42
Re that BSP PBT Beige group buy.1.for those people who could pay by paypal could buy these BSP on:http://www.imsto.cn/
Is that the one on IMSTO's site? Can someone explain to me what Peacock is? Is that just a recreation of an older board, which would explain the special side-printed legends?
2.side-printed legend is blue and dye-sublimation ,not pad print.
3.http://i3.tietuku.com/15d1048db1867e20.jpg(http://i3.tietuku.com/15d1048db1867e20.jpg)
4.IMSTO buy non-legend keycaps from BSP, and he will do dye-sublimation and replication of peacock.
Post by: calmfries on Sun, 06 September 2015, 01:43:58
Still can't change the fact that ABS shine a lot faster.
Post by: FunkMasterJ on Sun, 06 September 2015, 01:53:49
Re that BSP PBT Beige group buy.1.for those people who could pay by paypal could buy these BSP on:http://www.imsto.cn/
Is that the one on IMSTO's site? Can someone explain to me what Peacock is? Is that just a recreation of an older board, which would explain the special side-printed legends?
2.side-printed legend is blue and dye-sublimation ,not pad print.
3.http://i3.tietuku.com/15d1048db1867e20.jpgShow Image(http://i3.tietuku.com/15d1048db1867e20.jpg)
4.IMSTO buy non-legend keycaps from BSP, and he will do dye-sublimation and replication of peacock.
Yeah I'd rather not have a bunch of redundant crap on the side of my keycaps.
Post by: FunkMasterJ on Sun, 06 September 2015, 01:57:12
Still can't change the fact that ABS shine a lot faster.
My GMK keys have no more shine than my PBT sets that have been used just as much
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 06 September 2015, 02:40:54
Re that BSP PBT Beige group buy.1.for those people who could pay by paypal could buy these BSP on:http://www.imsto.cn/
Is that the one on IMSTO's site? Can someone explain to me what Peacock is? Is that just a recreation of an older board, which would explain the special side-printed legends?
2.side-printed legend is blue and dye-sublimation ,not pad print.
3.http://i3.tietuku.com/15d1048db1867e20.jpgShow Image(http://i3.tietuku.com/15d1048db1867e20.jpg)
4.IMSTO buy non-legend keycaps from BSP, and he will do dye-sublimation and replication of peacock.
Yeah I'd rather not have a bunch of redundant crap on the side of my keycaps.
Me too.
Post by: romevi on Sun, 06 September 2015, 08:27:40
Re that BSP PBT Beige group buy.1.for those people who could pay by paypal could buy these BSP on:http://www.imsto.cn/
Is that the one on IMSTO's site? Can someone explain to me what Peacock is? Is that just a recreation of an older board, which would explain the special side-printed legends?
2.side-printed legend is blue and dye-sublimation ,not pad print.
3.http://i3.tietuku.com/15d1048db1867e20.jpgShow Image(http://i3.tietuku.com/15d1048db1867e20.jpg)
4.IMSTO buy non-legend keycaps from BSP, and he will do dye-sublimation and replication of peacock.
Yeah I'd rather not have a bunch of redundant crap on the side of my keycaps.
I wouldn't mind. I think the set looks beautiful. There are already buttons I don't use on the keyboard; a few more wouldn't hurt!
Post by: Pieminister on Sun, 06 September 2015, 12:42:56
Post by: DavChrFen on Sun, 06 September 2015, 15:13:29
Anyway: I do not want to purchase a Stripe Card only for this group by. Why is just bank transfer not possible?
Post by: joey on Sun, 06 September 2015, 15:20:53
It is not possible to send a PM with empty body.
Anyway: I do not want to purchase a Stripe Card only for this group by. Why is just bank transfer not possible?
Stripe is just a way of receiving payments, you can use your normal debit/credit card.
Post by: jaffers on Sun, 06 September 2015, 16:14:21
Post by: DavChrFen on Sun, 06 September 2015, 19:17:04
It is not possible to send a PM with empty body.
Anyway: I do not want to purchase a Stripe Card only for this group by. Why is just bank transfer not possible?
Stripe is just a way of receiving payments, you can use your normal debit/credit card.
I have only a Maestro Card and a local bank card. No MasterCard/Visa etc. I know the situation in Germany is a little bit special as there is a dedicated payment system.
Post by: ViệtNV on Sun, 06 September 2015, 23:24:10
I'm in Vietnam mini-GB :D
Post by: naasfu on Sun, 06 September 2015, 23:40:20
classic beige will match with all of the colors! and this GB lets us get this beautiful colorway in the form of brand spanking new caps. no more hunting for old cherry doubleshots, which are usually stained, yellowed, and mirror shiny.
here is my gon with super shiny og cherry doubleshots:
(http://i.imgur.com/JzFiXQe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/MKRekzI.jpg)
Post by: kacase on Mon, 07 September 2015, 04:45:37
Didn't someone say they would support debit as well? Also getting a credit card just for this seems a bit too much effort for me... I am sure that if we don't hit MOQ it will be because a lot of people couldn't put their order in due to Stripe being used. :'(
As for Germany, Credit Cards (even prepaid) are not that easy to come by and you usually have to go to a bank and apply for one which is a rather tedious process.
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 07 September 2015, 04:47:45
Would love to buy this set, but simply can't because stripe only accepts credit cards. :mad:They support debit cards!
Didn't someone say they would support debit as well? Also getting a credit card just for this seems a bit too much effort for me... I am sure that if we don't hit MOQ it will be because a lot of people couldn't put their order in due to Stripe being used. :'(
Post by: kacase on Mon, 07 September 2015, 04:49:40
Would love to buy this set, but simply can't because stripe only accepts credit cards. :mad:They support debit cards!
Didn't someone say they would support debit as well? Also getting a credit card just for this seems a bit too much effort for me... I am sure that if we don't hit MOQ it will be because a lot of people couldn't put their order in due to Stripe being used. :'(
But normal german Debit Cards do not have an Expiry Date and a CVV/CVC
(http://i.imgur.com/NZL17gv.png)
and in the previous step there is nothing else to select:
(http://i.imgur.com/L0dGJrP.png)
Post by: NorrisB on Mon, 07 September 2015, 15:14:57
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 07 September 2015, 15:21:29
What will this look like with RGBYK, thanks for running this Photekq
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7409/16459250906_37f5e0a484_h.jpg)
quite sexy imo :o
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 07 September 2015, 15:23:32
What will this look like with RGBYK, thanks for running this Photekq
Here is a pic from Dangwang of a vintage cherry set with RGBK mods. These are dyesubs an no doubleshots though.
(https://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/img_0553.jpg)
By the way I already posted this in the RGBK thread...
Post by: DavChrFen on Mon, 07 September 2015, 15:24:31
Would love to buy this set, but simply can't because stripe only accepts credit cards. :mad:They support debit cards!
Didn't someone say they would support debit as well? Also getting a credit card just for this seems a bit too much effort for me... I am sure that if we don't hit MOQ it will be because a lot of people couldn't put their order in due to Stripe being used. :'(
But normal german Debit Cards do not have an Expiry Date and a CVV/CVCShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/NZL17gv.png)
and in the previous step there is nothing else to select:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/L0dGJrP.png)
It goes even further: I have a MaestroCard but with all this funny stuff. But as the shop is not supporting Maestro I get the message "wrong card number". I still do not see why it is so difficult to accept bank transfer.
Post by: swornxin on Mon, 07 September 2015, 20:36:19
EDIT: Looks like payment only goes through once the buy is over?
Post by: NorrisB on Mon, 07 September 2015, 20:40:07
Post by: kokokoy on Mon, 07 September 2015, 21:01:35
Placed my order. Hoping this goes through. Been waiting on it to put on my Octogon.
EDIT: Looks like payment only goes through once the buy is over?
On my CC it appeared only after 5 days (normal transactions comes 2nd day).
Post by: 64rky on Mon, 07 September 2015, 21:19:33
Placed my order. Hoping this goes through. Been waiting on it to put on my Octogon.
EDIT: Looks like payment only goes through once the buy is over?
I think I've actually been charged.
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 07 September 2015, 21:42:47
Stripe takes a week for payments to clearPlaced my order. Hoping this goes through. Been waiting on it to put on my Octogon.
EDIT: Looks like payment only goes through once the buy is over?
I think I've actually been charged.
Post by: Sempre on Tue, 08 September 2015, 00:29:58
I have more keycap sets than keyboards but I don't want to skip this because this classic look is really beautiful :thumb:
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 08 September 2015, 06:37:28
I'm trying to make it available as fast as I can, but I've had to prove my identity to Paypal and a whole load of other crap. They're taking a long time to process it, so I'm not sure how long it will take.
Post by: shower_king on Tue, 08 September 2015, 07:33:23
I've had some people ask how Paypal is coming along..i will stay with my order for two sets. the GB's deadline also be extended on EC in China.
I'm trying to make it available as fast as I can, but I've had to prove my identity to Paypal and a whole load of other crap. They're taking a long time to process it, so I'm not sure how long it will take.
I have given up BSP, just for classic and wait for this patiently.
Come on.
Post by: joey on Tue, 08 September 2015, 07:36:25
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 08 September 2015, 07:39:26
I've had some people ask how Paypal is coming along..i will stay with my order for two sets. the GB's deadline also be extended on EC in China.
I'm trying to make it available as fast as I can, but I've had to prove my identity to Paypal and a whole load of other crap. They're taking a long time to process it, so I'm not sure how long it will take.
I have given up BSP, just for classic and wait for this patiently.
Come on.
Oh sound good.
Which make you change decision?
Post by: kekstee on Tue, 08 September 2015, 10:16:19
classic beige GMK hype!
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 08 September 2015, 10:50:55
I'll probably join the extras pack for that 1.75 Control key tho, and probably some spacebars, I'm considering getting the main set for some random modifiers to be used in the future
I really like the CMYW+Purple+Dolch/Cyan Control+Beige keyboard by the way, I previously made the same Control/CMYW combination on a Dolch, yet it looks bad with a Dolch as the base of the Control is the same as the base of the Dolch, the legend color difference is really off putting, but with a beige-combo it really shines
I've seen some IMSTO discussion earlier, from first-hand experience, if GMK fonts are regular fonts, IMSTO's dye-subs are like retina fonts, yet his legend placement choices doesn't match GMK 1:1, as far as I see, he puts the top row upper legends to the topmost point, while on GMK keys they sit a bit lower, most probably by design to make them easier to read - with BSP's, they should double GMK in quality, yet he doesn't seem to directly offer a simple BSP/dye-sub set, all the sets are filled with complex additions, and Vortex dye-subs are slightly inferior to GMK's as the base keycap is Vortex
Post by: joey on Tue, 08 September 2015, 12:05:50
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 08 September 2015, 13:23:21
KHAANNN: You should just get the main set too. I think it'd look good even if you had dolch style F/J, a small splash of a different colour. (It'd be great if someone had something like that to show)
I know that just using different F/J's look bad, but maybe row-to-row different alphas, or just different alpha-colored keys for ,< .> 1! [{ etc could look good, so indeed I probably should just get the main set :)
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 08 September 2015, 14:59:03
I love the colorway but the reason I'm skipping this set is the lack of alternative homing keys, modifiers can be collected/mash-up'ed, but the lack of lined F/J's can't be remedied
I'll probably join the extras pack for that 1.75 Control key tho, and probably some spacebars, I'm considering getting the main set for some random modifiers to be used in the future
I really like the CMYW+Purple+Dolch/Cyan Control+Beige keyboard by the way, I previously made the same Control/CMYW combination on a Dolch, yet it looks bad with a Dolch as the base of the Control is the same as the base of the Dolch, the legend color difference is really off putting, but with a beige-combo it really shines
I've seen some IMSTO discussion earlier, from first-hand experience, if GMK fonts are regular fonts, IMSTO's dye-subs are like retina fonts, yet his legend placement choices doesn't match GMK 1:1, as far as I see, he puts the top row upper legends to the topmost point, while on GMK keys they sit a bit lower, most probably by design to make them easier to read - with BSP's, they should double GMK in quality, yet he doesn't seem to directly offer a simple BSP/dye-sub set, all the sets are filled with complex additions, and Vortex dye-subs are slightly inferior to GMK's as the base keycap is Vortex
Wasn't there already a thread made specifically for this kind of stuff?
Post by: swornxin on Tue, 08 September 2015, 15:09:07
Post by: NorrisB on Tue, 08 September 2015, 18:01:47
Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 08 September 2015, 18:21:54
Edit: Scratch that, my debit card is being declined. Anyone else have this issue? I guess I will wait for paypal.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Tue, 08 September 2015, 18:26:49
Put in an order. Thanks Photekq, been looking forward to this one for a while. :)
Edit: Scratch that, my debit card is being declined. Anyone else have this issue? I guess I will wait for paypal.
I don't think theres any waiting for paypal, you have to message Phot if you want to pay that way.
Post by: NorrisB on Tue, 08 September 2015, 18:28:39
Put in an order. Thanks Photekq, been looking forward to this one for a while. :)
Edit: Scratch that, my debit card is being declined. Anyone else have this issue? I guess I will wait for paypal.
I don't think theres any waiting for paypal, you have to message Phot if you want to pay that way.
scroll up.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Tue, 08 September 2015, 18:29:49
Put in an order. Thanks Photekq, been looking forward to this one for a while. :)
Edit: Scratch that, my debit card is being declined. Anyone else have this issue? I guess I will wait for paypal.
I don't think theres any waiting for paypal, you have to message Phot if you want to pay that way.
scroll up.
****, I'm always the one telling other people to read the damn thread. Guess it was going to come back to me at some point.
Post by: kokokoy on Tue, 08 September 2015, 19:37:06
Put in an order. Thanks Photekq, be
Still can't change the fact that ABS shine a lot faster.
My GMK keys have no more shine than my PBT sets that have been used just as much
en looking forward to this one for a while. :)
Edit: Scratch that, my debit card is being declined. Anyone else have this issue? I guess I will wait for paypal.
Not sure if its the same thing, but on the site I got a "AVS Failure" status. Thought its been declined, but transaction went through after 2 days on my debit card. I can see them though on my pending trans right after my order.
Post by: shower_king on Tue, 08 September 2015, 21:01:47
I've had some people ask how Paypal is coming along..i will stay with my order for two sets. the GB's deadline also be extended on EC in China.
I'm trying to make it available as fast as I can, but I've had to prove my identity to Paypal and a whole load of other crap. They're taking a long time to process it, so I'm not sure how long it will take.
I have given up BSP, just for classic and wait for this patiently.
Come on.
Oh sound good.
Which make you change decision?
The answer to this is no money.
I just have money for 3 sets, two for classic beige ,one for upcoming skidata replic. Between classic beige and BSP, i choose the former
Post by: Applet on Thu, 10 September 2015, 03:35:49
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 10 September 2015, 03:38:21
I still think there are many prospective orders that only wait for PayPal to be available.
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 10 September 2015, 04:15:02
I have not given up hope yet :thumb:
I still think there are many prospective orders that only wait for PayPal to be available.
Stripe >>> Paypal by the way, if anyone is holding back for that reason, it was probably a mistake to advertise it as "Stripe" tho, everyone initially thought it was something like Paypal, while it's mainly a credit card processor
No need to give paypal 5%-10% of all transactions (the costs near 10% when they default your account to another currency and you receive a payment in USD, in this GB's case, the loss should be 2-3% tho)
The production time exceeds the paypal buyer protection, so no need to deal with paypal
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 10 September 2015, 04:30:44
Post by: filphil on Thu, 10 September 2015, 19:33:43
Stripe seems obviously better for the GB leader, but some people seem to can't be able to pay with it.
I think paypal is the same requirement - you can use a major debit/credit card. Paypal does have the option to link your checking account but having a credit/debit card is a pretty universal thing so I don't know how it can be such an issue to people. I may be uneducated in international payments though so who knows.
Post by: swornxin on Thu, 10 September 2015, 20:29:09
A Canadian debit card would not work with Stripe. My American family sees debit and credit cards as the same thing, but Canadian debit cards and credit cards are not the same thing. A debit card would be connected directly to a chequing/savings account, while a credit card would be separate and more like borrowing money which you then need to pay back. I don't know about the rest of the world however.Stripe seems obviously better for the GB leader, but some people seem to can't be able to pay with it.
I think paypal is the same requirement - you can use a major debit/credit card. Paypal does have the option to link your checking account but having a credit/debit card is a pretty universal thing so I don't know how it can be such an issue to people. I may be uneducated in international payments though so who knows.
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 10 September 2015, 20:44:23
Post by: ATXTider on Thu, 10 September 2015, 21:44:02
A Canadian debit card would not work with Stripe. My American family sees debit and credit cards as the same thing, but Canadian debit cards and credit cards are not the same thing. A debit card would be connected directly to a chequing/savings account, while a credit card would be separate and more like borrowing money which you then need to pay back. I don't know about the rest of the world however.Stripe seems obviously better for the GB leader, but some people seem to can't be able to pay with it.
I think paypal is the same requirement - you can use a major debit/credit card. Paypal does have the option to link your checking account but having a credit/debit card is a pretty universal thing so I don't know how it can be such an issue to people. I may be uneducated in international payments though so who knows.
US Credit and Debit cards function exactly like you describe above, and they're affiliated with either visa or master card. We Americans assume it's the same everywhere, I suppose.
Post by: aznairjordan on Fri, 11 September 2015, 02:28:41
Post by: Metr0 on Fri, 11 September 2015, 04:32:30
Post by: romevi on Fri, 11 September 2015, 08:06:47
I'm in! Order number 98 here!Only at 98?
Post by: filphil on Fri, 11 September 2015, 08:30:20
If it has to come to it I don't mind with you having to hold on to my money for a little bit longer in order for a better chance this to happen. The way I see it you already have my money so I'm committed to it anyway.
Post by: icyskyz on Fri, 11 September 2015, 09:29:52
Oh no that is quite far from 250.I'm in! Order number 98 here!Only at 98?
I was at 56..
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 11 September 2015, 09:33:33
Post by: icyskyz on Fri, 11 September 2015, 09:35:29
Remember that one order doesn't necessary mean one set, the 250 MoQ is the number of sets.right, totally forgot about that.
Post by: romevi on Fri, 11 September 2015, 09:41:50
Remember that one order doesn't necessary mean one set, the 250 MoQ is the number of sets.
Oh, s**t. That's right. Duh.
Post by: jaffers on Fri, 11 September 2015, 10:14:54
Post by: gridMENSCH on Fri, 11 September 2015, 13:51:24
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 11 September 2015, 16:17:01
Is Switzerland considered EU for the purposes of this GB?
I think for the sake of shipping you might be. Just because of geographical location.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Fri, 11 September 2015, 16:20:18
Yeah pretty sure switzerland is always EU. It usually means just countries in Europe, not the actual EU.Is Switzerland considered EU for the purposes of this GB?
I think for the sake of shipping you might be. Just because of geographical location.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Fri, 11 September 2015, 16:23:44
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 12 September 2015, 00:48:41
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 12 September 2015, 08:03:54
Post by: joey on Sat, 12 September 2015, 09:03:32
Orders have started to pick up in the last day or so. Hopefully this will continue.Do EU/Everywhere else have separate order numbers?
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 12 September 2015, 09:09:57
Do EU/Everywhere else have separate order numbers?No they don't. And also this GB didn't start at order 1, since I ran Olivetti/RA through the site first.
Post by: ViệtNV on Sat, 12 September 2015, 09:32:31
Post by: 64rky on Sat, 12 September 2015, 10:02:29
we have reached MOQ yet? :(
Doubt it :(
We are probably in the 100's
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 12 September 2015, 13:08:05
Orders have started to pick up in the last day or so. Hopefully this will continue.
Can you give us a hint what the numbers are?
Are we over half way there?
Post by: swimmingbird on Sat, 12 September 2015, 16:27:05
Post by: 64rky on Sat, 12 September 2015, 16:45:00
Orders have started to pick up in the last day or so. Hopefully this will continue.
Can you give us a hint what the numbers are?
Are we over half way there?
Post by: Pieminister on Sat, 12 September 2015, 18:00:03
^^ We are at 100 orders now! Not even half way :(Orders have started to pick up in the last day or so. Hopefully this will continue.
Can you give us a hint what the numbers are?
Are we over half way there?
Earlier we were discussing how the order number may not be representative and how one order may account for several sets.
Post by: gh_pp on Sat, 12 September 2015, 18:43:24
Your Order Number is: 108
Post by: 64rky on Sat, 12 September 2015, 19:53:05
^^ We are at 100 orders now! Not even half way :(Orders have started to pick up in the last day or so. Hopefully this will continue.
Can you give us a hint what the numbers are?
Are we over half way there?
Earlier we were discussing how the order number may not be representative and how one order may account for several sets.
Good point, I am assuming one keyset per order. My bad.
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 13 September 2015, 02:16:29
Don’t forget this. Your 108 order could just be 60 sets.Do EU/Everywhere else have separate order numbers?No they don't. And also this GB didn't start at order 1, since I ran Olivetti/RA through the site first.
Post by: shower_king on Sun, 13 September 2015, 10:35:15
wish this come true .urgent measures need to be taken.. i think .
Post by: SL89 on Sun, 13 September 2015, 15:28:21
Post by: nickheller on Sun, 13 September 2015, 15:44:36
Post by: Pieminister on Sun, 13 September 2015, 16:54:49
Post by: kingslenkds on Sun, 13 September 2015, 18:35:43
Post by: romevi on Sun, 13 September 2015, 19:02:58
Heard that the coupon to abortion? I don't know that the news is true or false, I don't want to do the same, I like it very much.
...What?
Post by: kingslenkds on Sun, 13 September 2015, 19:07:30
I also heard that, whether its true or false.Heard that the coupon to abortion? I don't know that the news is true or false, I don't want to do the same, I like it very much.
...What?
Post by: nmur on Sun, 13 September 2015, 19:16:34
Heard that the coupon to abortion? I don't know that the news is true or false, I don't want to do the same, I like it very much.
...What?
It looks like he ran his sentence through google translate about 10 times, but I think he's saying that he's heard that the group buy has been aborted, but he's not sure, and that he does not want to be aborted also.
Post by: njbair on Sun, 13 September 2015, 21:43:42
Yes. I also do not want to be aborted.Heard that the coupon to abortion? I don't know that the news is true or false, I don't want to do the same, I like it very much.
...What?
It looks like he ran his sentence through google translate about 10 times, but I think he's saying that he's heard that the group buy has been aborted, but he's not sure, and that he does not want to be aborted also.
Post by: Tuntematon on Sun, 13 September 2015, 22:09:27
Yes. I also do not want to be aborted.Heard that the coupon to abortion? I don't know that the news is true or false, I don't want to do the same, I like it very much.
...What?
It looks like he ran his sentence through google translate about 10 times, but I think he's saying that he's heard that the group buy has been aborted, but he's not sure, and that he does not want to be aborted also.
I heard this buy comes with an abortion coupon. What are we talking here, buy one get one free?
Post by: romevi on Sun, 13 September 2015, 22:18:56
Heard that the coupon to abortion? I don't know that the news is true or false, I don't want to do the same, I like it very much.
...What?
It looks like he ran his sentence through google translate about 10 times, but I think he's saying that he's heard that the group buy has been aborted, but he's not sure, and that he does not want to be aborted also.
Something tells me he's not from Portland...
Update:
I had hoped to join this GB by today, but the funds I had been relying on haven't come in yet and I'm afraid I'll miss it. In case it tips and/or doesn't extend, would someone be willing to sell their order later to me instead of canceling it? I'm interested in the Main Set, Extra Set, and Spacebars. Thanks.
Post by: NorrisB on Sun, 13 September 2015, 22:31:54
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 14 September 2015, 04:39:47
How is the order count looking? Are we close enough that a few more weeks will realistically help or is this GB about to be canceled?
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 14 September 2015, 05:39:51
I'm not sure if it's worth extending the deadline.
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 14 September 2015, 05:46:13
I am really surprised though that not even the spacebars hit MOQ. In Ivan's GBs those normally hit MOQ first because people always have a use for them.
I could afford another set for resale later. If enough other members could help as well, we might have a chance :thumb:
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 14 September 2015, 07:13:10
Post by: shower_king on Mon, 14 September 2015, 07:31:18
OTD have launched a Dolch GB of GMK two years ago.when Dolch hit the MOQ of 250, they add White legend Of Black set(WOB) orders to GMK. The WOB set don't need MOQ, the WOB sets will be produced even just they have only 100 WOB sets. WOB set has been regarded as a part of Dolch set by GMK.
My suggestion is that we could link classic beige to skidata replic GMK set and make classic beige become a part of skidata. If skidata set hit the MOQ, then the classis beige don't need MOQ. Both sets will be produced by GMK as a complete order.
ps: the alfha of classic beige is compatible with Reverse-Skidata Add-on Pack quite well.
Sorry to discuss about associate this classic beige with skidata replic and making them become a complete one set. then Classic beige will come true without MOQ, let's try it ,please.
Post by: kingslenkds on Mon, 14 September 2015, 07:39:03
No matter where I am, it is important to group-buying could proceed as usualHeard that the coupon to abortion? I don't know that the news is true or false, I don't want to do the same, I like it very much.
...What?
It looks like he ran his sentence through google translate about 10 times, but I think he's saying that he's heard that the group buy has been aborted, but he's not sure, and that he does not want to be aborted also.
Something tells me he's not from Portland...
Update:
I had hoped to join this GB by today, but the funds I had been relying on haven't come in yet and I'm afraid I'll miss it. In case it tips and/or doesn't extend, would someone be willing to sell their order later to me instead of canceling it? I'm interested in the Main Set, Extra Set, and Spacebars. Thanks.
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 14 September 2015, 07:44:37
Seems like all the GMK groupbuys this year finally killed the GH wallet, and we had a proof yesterday that Stripe is a much better option than paypal (see RGBYK GB) for the runner.
It's important to note that Stripe is mainly for companies, last time I checked, it was only available to individuals in US, with a US SSN (I'm guessing the personal availability has extended, they don't advertise it, but still, it's far from a free payment processor, like paypal once was)
Edit: To clarify, this is for accepting payments, on the paying side, anyone can pay
Post by: tmk1207 on Mon, 14 September 2015, 08:08:19
Post by: joey on Mon, 14 September 2015, 08:33:50
Sorry to discuss about associate this classic beige with skidata replic and making them become a complete one set. then Classic beige will come true without MOQ, let's try it ,please.If it's true, that'd be great! If Kaura/Photekq can make that happen!
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 14 September 2015, 08:39:20
Sorry to discuss about associate this classic beige with skidata replic and making them become a complete one set. then Classic beige will come true without MOQ, let's try it ,please.If it's true, that'd be great! If Kaura/Photekq can make that happen!
I don't understand how this could help in anyway. Combining two sets doesn't make it cheaper.
To me it's pretty obvious that most people are not willing to pay a premium price for a premium set.
If Classic Beige was a 50$ JTK set we probably would have reached MOQ already...
Post by: geniekid on Mon, 14 September 2015, 09:08:40
Post by: joey on Mon, 14 September 2015, 09:15:39
It's about making it happen, not making it cheaper.Sorry to discuss about associate this classic beige with skidata replic and making them become a complete one set. then Classic beige will come true without MOQ, let's try it ,please.If it's true, that'd be great! If Kaura/Photekq can make that happen!
I don't understand how this could help in anyway. Combining two sets doesn't make it cheaper.
To me it's pretty obvious that most people are not willing to pay a premium price for a premium set.
If Classic Beige was a 50$ JTK set we probably would have reached MOQ already...
Post by: rpeterclark on Mon, 14 September 2015, 09:24:59
Post by: joey on Mon, 14 September 2015, 09:31:47
Post by: romevi on Mon, 14 September 2015, 13:59:53
Well, I guess we should at least try it.
I am really surprised though that not even the spacebars hit MOQ. In Ivan's GBs those normally hit MOQ first because people always have a use for them.
I could afford another set for resale later. If enough other members could help as well, we might have a chance :thumb:
If I'm unable to joint this week I'd be interested in an extra set of yours if you order all three. If not, I'm going to hope this gets an extension, but I'm sure my one order won't help any.
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Mon, 14 September 2015, 14:17:08
Post by: beltet on Mon, 14 September 2015, 15:17:48
Post by: korrelate on Mon, 14 September 2015, 15:23:59
photekq,
if you want to extend the deadline i think we could make it.
cheers,
K
Post by: radio_killah on Mon, 14 September 2015, 17:12:12
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Mon, 14 September 2015, 18:02:53
From the current numbers, it doesn't look like it is worth it to extend the deadline. I am sure there will probably be a small surge in the next week as people try to hype it but it will die out quickly. I would still love to see this set but it just looks as if the keyboard community needs a break for $100+ GMK sets right now.Shame.
so, will this be postponed, or completely dropped until a later time?
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 14 September 2015, 18:07:57
1) Major - No bumped F/J's (Very Major for me)
2) Minor - 1.25 keycap is "Control" - "Ctrl" is better (Major for me)
3) No FOMO - since people advertised the order_id's, I waited until the last moment to join for an Extras pack but since MOQ wasn't near, I didn't join
Possible reasons for others:
4) Cumulative GMK availability - Many GMK sets are available already - GMK TA's dilute the second-hand market
5) GMK is slow, didn't want to wait 2-4 months for a set I'm not extremely enthusiastic about
5) No colors - Adding 1-2 unique colored keycaps would trigger interest for everyone
Bonus: a 1.5 blank would be great in the extras, things like these come in handy in the future, the purple mods have it, the originative dolch extras have it, I use it for several different purposes (very very Minor)
If (1) existed, I would definitely join for at least 2 sets and 3 extras, probably 5 spacebars
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 14 September 2015, 18:12:53
Here are the reasons I didn't join: (Apologies if they are hard to hear, I know putting a lot of effort into something and seeing it fail is hard)
1) Major - No bumped F/J's (Very Major for me)
2) Minor - 1.25 keycap is "Control" - "Ctrl" is better (Major for me)
3) No FOMO - since people advertised the order_id's, I waited until the last moment to join for an Extras pack but since MOQ wasn't near, I didn't join
Possible reasons for others:
4) Cumulative GMK availability - Many GMK sets are available already - GMK TA's dilute the second-hand market
5) GMK is slow, didn't want to wait 2-4 months for a set I'm not extremely enthusiastic about
5) No colors - Adding 1-2 unique colored keycaps would trigger interest for everyone
Bonus: a 1.5 blank would be great in the extras, things like these come in handy in the future, the purple mods have it, the originative dolch extras have it, I use it for several different purposes (very very Minor)
If (1) existed, I would definitely join for at least 2 sets and 3 extras, probably 5 spacebars
Does bumped F/J GMK cap even exist?
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 14 September 2015, 18:25:38
Here are the reasons I didn't join: (Apologies if they are hard to hear, I know putting a lot of effort into something and seeing it fail is hard)
1) Major - No bumped F/J's (Very Major for me)
2) Minor - 1.25 keycap is "Control" - "Ctrl" is better (Major for me)
3) No FOMO - since people advertised the order_id's, I waited until the last moment to join for an Extras pack but since MOQ wasn't near, I didn't join
Possible reasons for others:
4) Cumulative GMK availability - Many GMK sets are available already - GMK TA's dilute the second-hand market
5) GMK is slow, didn't want to wait 2-4 months for a set I'm not extremely enthusiastic about
5) No colors - Adding 1-2 unique colored keycaps would trigger interest for everyone
Bonus: a 1.5 blank would be great in the extras, things like these come in handy in the future, the purple mods have it, the originative dolch extras have it, I use it for several different purposes (very very Minor)
If (1) existed, I would definitely join for at least 2 sets and 3 extras, probably 5 spacebars
Does bumped F/J GMK cap even exist?
Yes, bumped, nippled, they all exist
Yet GB runners explicitly don't add them as they don't think they will increase the numbers
Indeed, many people don't care, but our numbers are growing
Post by: shower_king on Mon, 14 September 2015, 20:09:51
if this F/J change from deep groove to bumped nipple, i think i definitely cancel my two sets . thank you for alert meHere are the reasons I didn't join: (Apologies if they are hard to hear, I know putting a lot of effort into something and seeing it fail is hard)
1) Major - No bumped F/J's (Very Major for me)
2) Minor - 1.25 keycap is "Control" - "Ctrl" is better (Major for me)
3) No FOMO - since people advertised the order_id's, I waited until the last moment to join for an Extras pack but since MOQ wasn't near, I didn't join
Possible reasons for others:
4) Cumulative GMK availability - Many GMK sets are available already - GMK TA's dilute the second-hand market
5) GMK is slow, didn't want to wait 2-4 months for a set I'm not extremely enthusiastic about
5) No colors - Adding 1-2 unique colored keycaps would trigger interest for everyone
Bonus: a 1.5 blank would be great in the extras, things like these come in handy in the future, the purple mods have it, the originative dolch extras have it, I use it for several different purposes (very very Minor)
If (1) existed, I would definitely join for at least 2 sets and 3 extras, probably 5 spacebars
Does bumped F/J GMK cap even exist?
Yes, bumped, nippled, they all exist
Yet GB runners explicitly don't add them as they don't think they will increase the numbers
Indeed, many people don't care, but our numbers are growing
Post by: shower_king on Mon, 14 September 2015, 20:20:22
Sorry to discuss about associate this classic beige with skidata replic and making them become a complete one set. then Classic beige will come true without MOQ, let's try it ,please.If it's true, that'd be great! If Kaura/Photekq can make that happen!
I don't understand how this could help in anyway. Combining two sets doesn't make it cheaper.
To me it's pretty obvious that most people are not willing to pay a premium price for a premium set.
If Classic Beige was a 50$ JTK set we probably would have reached MOQ already...
sorry to mislead you into misunderstanding.
Making the skidata and classic beige a complete order, everyone could just only buy skidata, and not buy classic beige. when skidata reach MOQ(250), the classic beige need no moq, they could be produced at 100 sets. OK, you don't buy classic beige and skidata mod pack, you just buy skidata main set.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 14 September 2015, 20:25:19
if this F/J change from deep groove to bumped nipple, i think i definitely cancel my two sets . thank you for alert meHere are the reasons I didn't join: (Apologies if they are hard to hear, I know putting a lot of effort into something and seeing it fail is hard)
1) Major - No bumped F/J's (Very Major for me)
2) Minor - 1.25 keycap is "Control" - "Ctrl" is better (Major for me)
3) No FOMO - since people advertised the order_id's, I waited until the last moment to join for an Extras pack but since MOQ wasn't near, I didn't join
Possible reasons for others:
4) Cumulative GMK availability - Many GMK sets are available already - GMK TA's dilute the second-hand market
5) GMK is slow, didn't want to wait 2-4 months for a set I'm not extremely enthusiastic about
5) No colors - Adding 1-2 unique colored keycaps would trigger interest for everyone
Bonus: a 1.5 blank would be great in the extras, things like these come in handy in the future, the purple mods have it, the originative dolch extras have it, I use it for several different purposes (very very Minor)
If (1) existed, I would definitely join for at least 2 sets and 3 extras, probably 5 spacebars
Does bumped F/J GMK cap even exist?
Yes, bumped, nippled, they all exist
Yet GB runners explicitly don't add them as they don't think they will increase the numbers
Indeed, many people don't care, but our numbers are growing
shower_king big god haha.
I personally don't have any preference. But I do understand some people might prefer the more "vintage" scooped style.
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 15 September 2015, 00:50:19
Yes, bumped, nippled, they all exist
Yet GB runners explicitly don't add them as they don't think they will increase the numbers
Indeed, many people don't care, but our numbers are growing
lol Sounds like some sort of cult.
I think some of the points you raised are valid, but unfortunately it is hard to know why some buys don't go ahead. I've found myself financially stretched as of late, so my reason is very simple. I probably won't be able to commit to this, SKIDATA+, that cool LEGO set, or a number of others.
Post by: nmur on Tue, 15 September 2015, 01:20:54
Yes, bumped, nippled, they all exist
Yet GB runners explicitly don't add them as they don't think they will increase the numbers
Indeed, many people don't care, but our numbers are growing
lol Sounds like some sort of cult.
I think some of the points you raised are valid, but unfortunately it is hard to know why some buys don't go ahead. I've found myself financially stretched as of late, so my reason is very simple. I probably won't be able to commit to this, SKIDATA+, that cool LEGO set, or a number of others.
Yeah likewise here. It's a beautiful set, and I have no issues with any of the layout choices/homing keys etc, but with Australian dollar's state right now, and the shipping cost to Aus, the price for the base + extra set is just too high for me.
Post by: jaffers on Tue, 15 September 2015, 02:16:45
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 15 September 2015, 02:24:26
I am really surprised though that not even the spacebars hit MOQ. In Ivan's GBs those normally hit MOQ first because people always have a use for them.
True.
Gonna be really sad if this doesn't happen. It has the perfect selection of caps in the best color scheme.
Post by: jaffers on Tue, 15 September 2015, 02:32:38
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 15 September 2015, 03:44:35
I am really surprised though that not even the spacebars hit MOQ. In Ivan's GBs those normally hit MOQ first because people always have a use for them.
True.
Gonna be really sad if this doesn't happen. It has the perfect selection of caps in the best color scheme.
Just reality of life here on Geekhack.
You wouldn't believe the large number of failed GMK sets over the years..........
Post by: DanielT on Tue, 15 September 2015, 04:18:05
I think the main problem is that lately there are an abundance of GMK buys and the interest is diluted. People just can't buy that many expensive GMK sets :( We've seen the same with Miami Nights, it barely hit MOQ. In the old days you had 1 GMK GB in a year and a couple of SP GB's and that was it. Now you have even 2 buys in parallel and the huge GMK MOQ doesn't help either.I am really surprised though that not even the spacebars hit MOQ. In Ivan's GBs those normally hit MOQ first because people always have a use for them.
True.
Gonna be really sad if this doesn't happen. It has the perfect selection of caps in the best color scheme.
Just reality of life here on Geekhack.
You wouldn't believe the large number of failed GMK sets over the years..........
I'm speaking as an outsider because for me beige doesn't do it the brightest I can go is HyperFuse, but that's beyond the point.
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 15 September 2015, 07:26:47
Yes, bumped, nippled, they all exist
Yet GB runners explicitly don't add them as they don't think they will increase the numbers
Indeed, many people don't care, but our numbers are growing
lol Sounds like some sort of cult.
I think some of the points you raised are valid, but unfortunately it is hard to know why some buys don't go ahead. I've found myself financially stretched as of late, so my reason is very simple. I probably won't be able to commit to this, SKIDATA+, that cool LEGO set, or a number of others.
Yeah likewise here. It's a beautiful set, and I have no issues with any of the layout choices/homing keys etc, but with Australian dollar's state right now, and the shipping cost to Aus, the price for the base + extra set is just too high for me.
Yep I've had to cut down a bit on the GMK buys as well given the state of the AUD - a base set plus extras now goes for something like 220 after converting :'(
Maybe Malky can bring our exchange rate back up haha
Post by: Orca on Tue, 15 September 2015, 09:14:20
Yep I've had to cut down a bit on the GMK buys as well given the state of the AUD - a base set plus extras now goes for something like 220 after converting :'(
Maybe Malky can bring our exchange rate back up haha
same reason im not joining...
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:13:53
Yep I've had to cut down a bit on the GMK buys as well given the state of the AUD - a base set plus extras now goes for something like 220 after converting :'(
Maybe Malky can bring our exchange rate back up haha
same reason im not joining...
But I joined :(
Post by: jamster on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:51:17
I really do like the very old school colour scheme without bright colours slapped all over it.
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 15 September 2015, 11:03:51
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 15 September 2015, 11:45:06
Even if it doesnt happen now. I'm sure it will at some point. Photekq has been sitting on this a while.
I really hope so.
Post by: jd29 on Tue, 15 September 2015, 12:02:09
You might also add a couple of unique Esc keys or something that complement the beige to help promote the extras set, but what do I know.
Post by: rsadek on Tue, 15 September 2015, 20:54:20
Post by: shower_king on Wed, 16 September 2015, 02:25:17
i am awaiting for GMK to reply.
Post by: tmk1207 on Wed, 16 September 2015, 02:54:46
i have sent a email to GMK to ask whether we could add classic beige to skidata replic set and make the classic beige happen at just 100 sets and have no adverse effect on skitdata replic set when skidata reach MOQ.
i am awaiting for GMK to reply.
(y). Good news everyone >:<. I hope so :D
Post by: jaffers on Wed, 16 September 2015, 06:32:37
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 16 September 2015, 09:00:29
i have sent a email to GMK to ask whether we could add classic beige to skidata replic set and make the classic beige happen at just 100 sets and have no adverse effect on skitdata replic set when skidata reach MOQ.Does this mean Classic Beige would stay open until Skidata is done?
i am awaiting for GMK to reply.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 16 September 2015, 09:17:15
i have sent a email to GMK to ask whether we could add classic beige to skidata replic set and make the classic beige happen at just 100 sets and have no adverse effect on skitdata replic set when skidata reach MOQ.
i am awaiting for GMK to reply.
Don't you think photek should be asking that question of GMK?
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 16 September 2015, 09:29:43
i have sent a email to GMK to ask whether we could add classic beige to skidata replic set and make the classic beige happen at just 100 sets and have no adverse effect on skitdata replic set when skidata reach MOQ.
i am awaiting for GMK to reply.
Don't you think photek should be asking that question of GMK?
Exactly what I was about to say Hoff. This is his GB.
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 16 September 2015, 09:39:13
Post by: ATXTider on Wed, 16 September 2015, 11:11:59
Post by: kekstee on Wed, 16 September 2015, 15:19:24
The reason for this to be rather low demand is just people being money starved and classic being a set you can still harvest the easiest. It just doesn't get the appreciation it deservers, yet.
Post by: shower_king on Wed, 16 September 2015, 20:17:45
i have sent a email to GMK to ask whether we could add classic beige to skidata replic set and make the classic beige happen at just 100 sets and have no adverse effect on skitdata replic set when skidata reach MOQ.
i am awaiting for GMK to reply.
Don't you think photek should be asking that question of GMK?
OK,i won't ask that ,i gave up ,this is your group buy ,not mine . i won't show and discuss any question about this. and cancel my order ,you are great . fabulous.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 16 September 2015, 20:50:58
In the other hand, to remain in the GB or request a reimbursement of money already paid is at the discretion of each buyer; but, there is no need to make that public, it could be handle directly with the GB leader.
Most fellows here behave maturely regardless of age. From time to time some juvenile conduct is observed, fortunately it happens very rarely.
Post by: NorrisB on Wed, 16 September 2015, 21:11:01
Post by: ideus on Wed, 16 September 2015, 21:13:01
How in the world can this set not hit moq is beyond me.
Maybe timing, combined with more offer of GMK made sets recently, than usual; that means, emptied wallets.
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 16 September 2015, 21:19:36
Post by: NorrisB on Wed, 16 September 2015, 21:35:25
Guys I think we just put Potek through college.
I don't think so, Photeqk is trustworthy.
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 17 September 2015, 05:31:08
Guys I think we just put Potek through college.
Eh 100-150 orders isn't really that much cash
Post by: ideus on Thu, 17 September 2015, 07:54:58
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 17 September 2015, 08:46:47
A brief note form the GB leader may help to dissipate the fellows' nervousness.
I don't think anyone has reason to worry - photekq is pretty established here
Post by: ideus on Thu, 17 September 2015, 08:57:27
A brief note form the GB leader may help to dissipate the fellows' nervousness.
I don't think anyone has reason to worry - photekq is pretty established here
Well, some comments in the thread do not reflect that; besides, even for well established people, communication makes no harm.
Post by: romevi on Thu, 17 September 2015, 09:03:33
He hasn't posted in a while. Anyone heard from him?A brief note form the GB leader may help to dissipate the fellows' nervousness.
I don't think anyone has reason to worry - photekq is pretty established here
Well, some comments in the thread do not reflect that; besides, even for well established people, communication makes no harm.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 17 September 2015, 09:09:52
He hasn't posted in a while. Anyone heard from him?Well, some comments in the thread do not reflect that; besides, even for well established people, communication makes no harm.A brief note form the GB leader may help to dissipate the fellows' nervousness.I don't think anyone has reason to worry - photekq is pretty established here
I haven't, but I also haven't tried. I suspect he's busy with school right about now.
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 17 September 2015, 09:11:45
Post by: rpeterclark on Thu, 17 September 2015, 09:13:20
He hasn't posted in a while. Anyone heard from him?Well, some comments in the thread do not reflect that; besides, even for well established people, communication makes no harm.A brief note form the GB leader may help to dissipate the fellows' nervousness.I don't think anyone has reason to worry - photekq is pretty established here
I haven't, but I also haven't tried. I suspect he's busy with school right about now.
The forum shows him as online and viewing this board right now, or is that now how that feature works?
Post by: filphil on Thu, 17 September 2015, 09:13:53
I'm sure he's busy so just wait a little bit everybody.
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 17 September 2015, 10:00:45
Yeah, but where is photekq?I'm here. I just haven't posted since I haven't had anything meaningful to say until now.
I think it's quite safe to say that if orders are left open MOQ still won't be reached for quite some time. In fact, I'm getting more people asking for refunds/cancellations every day than I'm getting new orders. The order count is decreasing. So, I will not be doing this.
Now, what shower_king has mentioned a few times is a possibility. Karura and I are happy to explore it. However, there's a few issues.. We would have to wait until skidata runs it course, meaning that people's money would be in limbo for possibly months. Even then, skidata might not even hit MOQ. It's also work for Karura which I do not want to create.
Currently I'm thinking it may be best to just cancel the GB and refund everyone. I'm not going to rush to do this; thought must be put towards it. I will make a final decision in the coming days.
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 17 September 2015, 11:11:02
Guys I think we just put Potek through college.
Eh 100-150 orders isn't really that much cash
Guys I think we just put Potek through college.
I don't think so, Photeqk is trustworthy.
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2tYt6V9.gif)
Post by: romevi on Thu, 17 September 2015, 12:37:45
Yeah, but where is photekq?I'm here. I just haven't posted since I haven't had anything meaningful to say until now.
I think it's quite safe to say that if orders are left open MOQ still won't be reached for quite some time. In fact, I'm getting more people asking for refunds/cancellations every day than I'm getting new orders. The order count is decreasing. So, I will not be doing this.
Now, what shower_king has mentioned a few times is a possibility. Karura and I are happy to explore it. However, there's a few issues.. We would have to wait until skidata runs it course, meaning that people's money would be in limbo for possibly months. Even then, skidata might not even hit MOQ. It's also work for Karura which I do not want to create.
Currently I'm thinking it may be best to just cancel the GB and refund everyone. I'm not going to rush to do this; thought must be put towards it. I will make a final decision in the coming days.
I was looking for that lady with the cigarette, then you changed your pic again, and now it's someone else!
Sad to hear about it. I admit I couldn't join in time, but if this runs with or after Skidata+, there's a stronger possibility I can.
But that's just one person. I thought that, without my pledge, the MOQ would've been hit in just a couple of weeks.
Post by: NorrisB on Thu, 17 September 2015, 20:27:46
Guys I think we just put Potek through college.
Eh 100-150 orders isn't really that much cashGuys I think we just put Potek through college.
I don't think so, Photeqk is trustworthy.Show Image(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2tYt6V9.gif)
I dont think it's funny to joke about that personally.
Post by: jd29 on Thu, 17 September 2015, 20:44:39
Guys I think we just put Potek through college.
Eh 100-150 orders isn't really that much cashGuys I think we just put Potek through college.
I don't think so, Photeqk is trustworthy.Show Image(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2tYt6V9.gif)
I dont think it's funny to joke about that personally.
I thought it was funny.
Photekq, your new avatar is triggering me. Pls change it back
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 17 September 2015, 20:53:25
Photekq, your new avatar is triggering me. Pls change it backI got told to change the other one as it was triggering people too.. Why's this one triggering you?
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 17 September 2015, 21:00:01
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Repost this if ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ you are a beautiful strong black Potek ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ who don’t need no avatar ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
╚═════════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ════════════════╝
Post by: Karura on Thu, 17 September 2015, 21:01:00
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Repost this if ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ you are a beautiful strong black Potek ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ who don’t need no avatar ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
╚═════════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ════════════════╝
Post by: jd29 on Thu, 17 September 2015, 21:04:34
Photekq, your new avatar is triggering me. Pls change it backI got told to change the other one as it was triggering people too.. Why's this one triggering you?
That was also a joke. But some may in fact be triggered by a photo of Enoch Powell.
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 17 September 2015, 21:08:35
That was also a joke. But some may in fact be triggered by a photo of Enoch Powell.Let them be triggered ^-^
Post by: shower_king on Thu, 17 September 2015, 21:40:49
sorry for say some annoying and angry words . i apologize for that.That was also a joke. But some may in fact be triggered by a photo of Enoch Powell.Let them be triggered ^-^
I have no bad intention. i have known you have done a lot and great work to make this happen . what i have done was just to make this happen . i acknowledge your great work on this group.
No matter what this happen , i will stay with this and await patiently and appreciate you for all you have done .
i fullly support you and all depend on you . thank you very much.
Post by: jd29 on Thu, 17 September 2015, 22:02:47
Let them be triggered ^-^
That is the correct attitude :)
Post by: SL89 on Fri, 18 September 2015, 07:37:12
Post by: NorrisB on Fri, 18 September 2015, 08:17:03
That was also a joke. But some may in fact be triggered by a photo of Enoch Powell.Let them be triggered ^-^
Change it back to hitler
Post by: naasfu on Fri, 18 September 2015, 11:58:37
Post by: romevi on Fri, 18 September 2015, 12:17:36
for the people who chose not to order this set... what were the reasons? not interested in the color way? no paypal? having to pay up front? low on funds at the moment?
No PayPal and low on the funds at the moment. Yes, there were accommodations for PayPal insistors, but my low funds didn't help. :'(
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 18 September 2015, 12:22:13
for the people who chose not to order this set... what were the reasons? not interested in the color way? no paypal? having to pay up front? low on funds at the moment?
The last one for me. I can't justify the cost right now. I also despise R5 profile and it's a set killer for me.
Post by: romevi on Fri, 18 September 2015, 12:28:36
Something like the blue mods from Ivan's GMK Dolch.
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Post by: roostrc0gburn on Fri, 18 September 2015, 13:38:50
Also, while I loved the classic look of it, maybe the plain look didn't appeal to enough people. Some sort of splash of color could've helped as a child deal; I would've suggested adding the GMK RGBYK to this, but that's already on Massdrop.
Something like the blue mods from Ivan's GMK Dolch.
(Attachment Link)
Personally, i would rather see CMYK attached to one of these buys. its been a long time sine CMYK has been available to a group buy, and very hard to find in the secondary market.
Post by: jd29 on Fri, 18 September 2015, 13:51:18
Also, while I loved the classic look of it, maybe the plain look didn't appeal to enough people. Some sort of splash of color could've helped as a child deal; I would've suggested adding the GMK RGBYK to this, but that's already on Massdrop.
Something like the blue mods from Ivan's GMK Dolch.
(Attachment Link)
Personally, i would rather see CMYK attached to one of these buys. its been a long time sine CMYK has been available to a group buy, and very hard to find in the secondary market.
And then there's this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=74183.0;attach=107835;image), which as far as I know has never been available in a GB (at least not in beige). It's so much more subtle than coloring the entire cap. I can't be the only one who loves that design.
Post by: deci on Fri, 18 September 2015, 13:53:14
Classic Beige GMK is a set I have always wanted ever since I got into this hobby...
I really hope there's some way we can still make this happen :(
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 18 September 2015, 15:03:21
sorry for say some annoying and angry words . i apologize for that.Thanks for your words.
I have no bad intention. i have known you have done a lot and great work to make this happen . what i have done was just to make this happen . i acknowledge your great work on this group.
No matter what this happen , i will stay with this and await patiently and appreciate you for all you have done .
i fullly support you and all depend on you . thank you very much.
---
I've decided it is best if I just call the GB off, at least for the time being. I will start refunding everyone in the next few days.
Thanks all participants & supporters. I'm sad we couldn't make it work.
I am considering attempting a much, much smaller adaption kit for beige (and perhaps white on black) original Cherry sets. Winkey bottom row, centre stemmed caps lock, 1.75 right shift, windowed lock keys. Stuff like that.
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 18 September 2015, 15:04:06
I am considering attempting a much, much smaller adaption kit for beige (and perhaps white on black) original Cherry sets. Winkey bottom row, centre stemmed caps lock, 1.75 right shift, windowed lock keys. Stuff like that.
Count me in on that :thumb:
Post by: joey on Fri, 18 September 2015, 15:18:11
Post by: trenzafeeds on Fri, 18 September 2015, 16:14:11
I am considering attempting a much, much smaller adaption kit for beige (and perhaps white on black) original Cherry sets. Winkey bottom row, centre stemmed caps lock, 1.75 right shift, windowed lock keys. Stuff like that.
Count me in on that :thumb:
How about ANSI adaption kit? I have some ISO caps.
Yes pleaaase, both of these things. I need them reaaallly bad.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 18 September 2015, 16:33:42
for the people who chose not to order this set... what were the reasons? not interested in the color way? no paypal? having to pay up front? low on funds at the moment?
My wallet is a chicken.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 18 September 2015, 16:39:57
Post by: korrelate on Fri, 18 September 2015, 20:49:11
This is heartbreaking.
Classic Beige GMK is a set I have always wanted ever since I got into this hobby...
I really hope there's some way we can still make this happen :(
I am right on the same page with you deci.
Post by: radio_killah on Fri, 18 September 2015, 21:41:05
Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 18 September 2015, 21:41:48
This is heartbreaking.
Classic Beige GMK is a set I have always wanted ever since I got into this hobby...
I really hope there's some way we can still make this happen :(
I am right on the same page with you deci.
+2. This is a set I've always wanted :(.
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 18 September 2015, 21:42:23
Post by: ideus on Fri, 18 September 2015, 23:02:17
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 18 September 2015, 23:06:15
Post by: icyskyz on Fri, 18 September 2015, 23:11:50
Post by: shawn o on Sat, 19 September 2015, 01:25:56
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 19 September 2015, 02:41:59
MassdropProblem of this GB is MOQ, isn't payment method like RGBYK.
Post by: darkclone24 on Sat, 19 September 2015, 03:25:24
MassdropProblem of this GB is MOQ, isn't payment method like RGBYK.
Massdrop could potentially help with MOQ though.
The same way a lot of people around here dislike Massdrop, there are people over on Reddit and the Massdrop discussions who would never partake in a Geekhack group buy. I'm not sure why, but a lot of people in this hobby seem to see other communities as enemies. It's a bit daft really.
Post by: Prelim on Sat, 19 September 2015, 04:26:51
GMK + Moogle = Gmookle kit, it would be awesome in standard beige, black and maybe in Dolch colors.
x2!
Post by: kingslenkds on Sat, 19 September 2015, 04:45:13
I hope you can have a better plan in the future let me continue to follow in the footsteps of you, be honest, I really like this, but it failed again, I wish you good luck!sorry for say some annoying and angry words . i apologize for that.Thanks for your words.
I have no bad intention. i have known you have done a lot and great work to make this happen . what i have done was just to make this happen . i acknowledge your great work on this group.
No matter what this happen , i will stay with this and await patiently and appreciate you for all you have done .
i fullly support you and all depend on you . thank you very much.
---
I've decided it is best if I just call the GB off, at least for the time being. I will start refunding everyone in the next few days.
Thanks all participants & supporters. I'm sad we couldn't make it work.
I am considering attempting a much, much smaller adaption kit for beige (and perhaps white on black) original Cherry sets. Winkey bottom row, centre stemmed caps lock, 1.75 right shift, windowed lock keys. Stuff like that.
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 19 September 2015, 05:22:42
My vote goes to keeping R5.
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 19 September 2015, 05:50:26
Post by: Nover on Sat, 19 September 2015, 06:07:56
GMK + Moogle = Gmookle kit, it would be awesome in standard beige, black and maybe in Dolch colors.
x2!
x3
Post by: FunkMasterJ on Sat, 19 September 2015, 14:40:58
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Sat, 19 September 2015, 17:04:57
MassdropProblem of this GB is MOQ, isn't payment method like RGBYK.
Massdrop could potentially help with MOQ though.
The same way a lot of people around here dislike Massdrop, there are people over on Reddit and the Massdrop discussions who would never partake in a Geekhack group buy. I'm not sure why, but a lot of people in this hobby seem to see other communities as enemies. It's a bit daft really.
This is ripster's doing. Long-standing beef. Of course, ridiculous and I think most would agree
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 19 September 2015, 17:53:22
There have been some scams, this is undeniable. We are talking about people who handle more than $40'000 for each gmk gb.
Also some policies are not clear. What happens if some keys are defective? If a package is lost? I can understand some doubts.
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 19 September 2015, 17:55:43
Post by: joey on Sat, 19 September 2015, 18:03:59
Put this gb on massdrop. A basic set with only standard ISO and ansi, scoops plus bars. Extra sets available. The base set can be sold for $85.The base now was 130$, what keys are you removing to drop 45$?
Post by: HannahPeach on Sat, 19 September 2015, 18:15:19
sorry for say some annoying and angry words . i apologize for that.Thanks for your words.
I have no bad intention. i have known you have done a lot and great work to make this happen . what i have done was just to make this happen . i acknowledge your great work on this group.
No matter what this happen , i will stay with this and await patiently and appreciate you for all you have done .
i fullly support you and all depend on you . thank you very much.
---
I've decided it is best if I just call the GB off, at least for the time being. I will start refunding everyone in the next few days.
Thanks all participants & supporters. I'm sad we couldn't make it work.
I am considering attempting a much, much smaller adaption kit for beige (and perhaps white on black) original Cherry sets. Winkey bottom row, centre stemmed caps lock, 1.75 right shift, windowed lock keys. Stuff like that.
I am actually really sad to hear this, thank you for all the work you're put into this though. You're great!
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 19 September 2015, 18:27:30
Put this gb on massdrop. A basic set with only standard ISO and ansi, scoops plus bars. Extra sets available. The base set can be sold for $85.
You greatly overestimate the cost of these sets.
Instead of throwing out random numbers, take the time to design a set, get a quote, estimate shipping costs on both ends, and in this case calculate taxes. Then come on back and share with us how you plan to have an $85 GMK set.
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 19 September 2015, 19:49:00
A standard 104-key set with no extras could be done for $85 at 250 MOQ, but with no margin at all for the organizer.Put this gb on massdrop. A basic set with only standard ISO and ansi, scoops plus bars. Extra sets available. The base set can be sold for $85.
You greatly overestimate the cost of these sets.
Instead of throwing out random numbers, take the time to design a set, get a quote, estimate shipping costs on both ends, and in this case calculate taxes. Then come on back and share with us how you plan to have an $85 GMK set.
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 19 September 2015, 20:47:53
This is no calculation for import fees, shipping, packing materials. Also depends where the package is being received. If it's more than 2.5k in the US you need yourself or someone else to go to customs with the package, and there is going to be a VAT tax if they are in Europe.A standard 104-key set with no extras could be done for $85 at 250 MOQ, but with no margin at all for the organizer.Put this gb on massdrop. A basic set with only standard ISO and ansi, scoops plus bars. Extra sets available. The base set can be sold for $85.
You greatly overestimate the cost of these sets.
Instead of throwing out random numbers, take the time to design a set, get a quote, estimate shipping costs on both ends, and in this case calculate taxes. Then come on back and share with us how you plan to have an $85 GMK set.
Post by: kekstee on Sun, 20 September 2015, 03:14:44
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 20 September 2015, 05:44:06
If an adaption kit ever happens I'd still be happy to see the HHKB support keys again.
+1 :thumb:
Post by: ideus on Sun, 20 September 2015, 12:06:00
If an adaption kit ever happens I'd still be happy to see the HHKB support keys again.
+1 :thumb:
Maybe some specialized sets besides the Mookle? To keep their individual costs low, each party may choose which ones based on particular needs. The other line of reasoning shared around GH is to offer one single set with everything included, so interested parties may take it, or leave it; that, in this case was the last, and it did not happen, at all. Thus, why not try the other approach?
Post by: filphil on Sun, 20 September 2015, 12:12:44
Post by: malcomkern on Sun, 20 September 2015, 14:50:44
Post by: Sempre on Sun, 20 September 2015, 15:05:41
Post by: gameaholic on Sun, 20 September 2015, 20:13:36
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 20 September 2015, 20:31:06
If an adaption kit ever happens I'd still be happy to see the HHKB support keys again.
+1 :thumb:
Maybe some specialized sets besides the Mookle? To keep their individual costs low, each party may choose which ones based on particular needs. The other line of reasoning shared around GH is to offer one single set with everything included, so interested parties may take it, or leave it; that, in this case was the last, and it did not happen, at all. Thus, why not try the other approach?
Adapter kit support HHKB is only have 2 caps. I think it can combine with moogle kit. Cost 'll increase little more but I believe everyone can accept.
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 20 September 2015, 20:44:05
Post by: ideus on Sun, 20 September 2015, 21:30:02
If an adaption kit ever happens I'd still be happy to see the HHKB support keys again.
+1 :thumb:
Maybe some specialized sets besides the Mookle? To keep their individual costs low, each party may choose which ones based on particular needs. The other line of reasoning shared around GH is to offer one single set with everything included, so interested parties may take it, or leave it; that, in this case was the last, and it did not happen, at all. Thus, why not try the other approach?
Adapter kit support HHKB is only have 2 caps. I think it can combine with moogle kit. Cost 'll increase little more but I believe everyone can accept.
You meant the control / caps lock replacement and the 1.5 2nd row backspace?
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 20 September 2015, 22:23:08
I am talking to 1.5 x Delete (Row D) & 1 x \| (Row E). This is caps only support HHKB I think.
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 20 September 2015, 22:28:06
How many more people have gotten their refund yet?Nobody yet. I'll be refunding everyone tomorrow.
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 20 September 2015, 22:51:49
How many more people have gotten their refund yet?Nobody yet. I'll be refunding everyone tomorrow.
Okay, thanks man.
I'll be anxiously waiting for you to run this again. I know you said that you are going to trim it down next time. Just please don't get rid of the Win98 logo + Blank 1.25 keys :D
Post by: icyskyz on Sun, 20 September 2015, 23:40:06
Agreed on that!How many more people have gotten their refund yet?Nobody yet. I'll be refunding everyone tomorrow.
Okay, thanks man.
I'll be anxiously waiting for you to run this again. I know you said that you are going to trim it down next time. Just please don't get rid of the Win98 logo + Blank 1.25 keys :D
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 21 September 2015, 11:02:25
"Refunds take 5 to 10 business days to appear on your customer's statement."
If after a few weeks you have not received anything please contact me.
Post by: icyskyz on Mon, 21 September 2015, 11:16:37
Everyone has been refunded.Thank you for all the hard work Photekq. :(
"Refunds take 5 to 10 business days to appear on your customer's statement."
If after a few weeks you have not received anything please contact me.
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 21 September 2015, 11:37:34
Everyone has been refunded.
"Refunds take 5 to 10 business days to appear on your customer's statement."
If after a few weeks you have not received anything please contact me.
Thanks Photekq
Post by: malcomkern on Mon, 21 September 2015, 12:35:20
Thanks for your hard work :thumb:
Post by: Applet on Mon, 21 September 2015, 14:33:32
Post by: katushkin on Mon, 21 September 2015, 16:01:19
Post by: kokokoy on Mon, 21 September 2015, 22:19:09
Post by: beltet on Tue, 22 September 2015, 01:38:50
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Tue, 22 September 2015, 13:26:34
Everyone has been refunded.
"Refunds take 5 to 10 business days to appear on your customer's statement."
If after a few weeks you have not received anything please contact me.
*sad beep*
Post by: korrelate on Tue, 22 September 2015, 13:28:06
Post by: naasfu on Tue, 22 September 2015, 19:06:35
Post by: gameaholic on Tue, 22 September 2015, 21:44:47
Post by: sorijealut on Thu, 24 September 2015, 07:23:39
I just had a question, I'm seeing a 161.01 refund for my 169.83 purchase. Why is this?
Post by: nickheller on Thu, 24 September 2015, 08:06:30
Sad this didn't go through.Maybe a fee for the international transaction? I paid a fee of $5.06 when I originally placed my order, but my refund looks to be the correct amount so I don't know.
I just had a question, I'm seeing a 161.01 refund for my 169.83 purchase. Why is this?
Post by: icyskyz on Thu, 24 September 2015, 08:14:12
Post by: skuko on Thu, 24 September 2015, 09:21:27
how and when can i expect my refund then?
edit:
checking my order on precision buys, can any1 tell me what this means?
DATE ORDER STATUS COMMENTS
08/05/2015 Pending
08/05/2015 Stripe - AVS Failure
i was under the impression i paid for this? :O
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 24 September 2015, 09:25:46
Sad this didn't go through.
I just had a question, I'm seeing a 161.01 refund for my 169.83 purchase. Why is this?
Conversion rates...same thing happened to me.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 19:09:04
Everyone has been refunded.
"Refunds take 5 to 10 business days to appear on your customer's statement."
If after a few weeks you have not received anything please contact me.
Would you try to run this over Massdrop? The design is a classic, it deserves to get a chance.
Post by: jd29 on Fri, 25 September 2015, 19:21:38
what is this? has this been cancelled? if yes, please be so kind and update the OP! i haven't read the forum for a couple of days.
how and when can i expect my refund then?
edit:
checking my order on precision buys, can any1 tell me what this means?
DATE ORDER STATUS COMMENTS
08/05/2015 Pending
08/05/2015 Stripe - AVS Failure
i was under the impression i paid for this? :O
Mine said the same thing, but the payment went through anyway (twice)
Better check your bank statement.
Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 25 September 2015, 20:23:03
Post by: icyskyz on Fri, 25 September 2015, 22:24:59
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 26 September 2015, 05:10:18
The AVS error is nothing to worry about. It's just an address check, and if it says AVS error then your order went through fine.
I haven't updated any of the order statuses on the site, but rest assured everyone (unless I missed 1 or 2 out) has been refunded.
Regarding the missing money.. I'm really not sure about this. I spoke to Stripe multiple times before I started the GB and they assured me every time that if refunds were made then both the buyer and seller would be left with the exact same amount they began with. I'm not sure if that loss is due to currency conversion related stuff, but anyway.. I will try to contact Stripe when I get the chance but at the moment I don't have the time. I hope you understand.
Post by: joey on Sat, 26 September 2015, 09:30:24
Post by: naasfu on Sat, 26 September 2015, 17:04:00
anyways, thanks again pho for the effort. i'm definitely in if you decide to revive this GB in any form. :)
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 26 September 2015, 17:07:08
Post by: naasfu on Sat, 26 September 2015, 17:47:01
I didn't get the foreign transaction fee back.
ugh that sucks. i've been meaning to get another card that doesn't add bs foreign transaction fees.
Post by: shawn o on Sat, 26 September 2015, 18:13:39
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 26 September 2015, 20:43:34
Lets get it going with Massdrop so these can actually be produced.
I'm not sure how into these the MD crowd would be tbh. I'm not talking about the company, but the customers tend to lean a bit more towards flashier stuff.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 26 September 2015, 21:36:42
Lets get it going with Massdrop so these can actually be produced.
I'm not sure how into these the MD crowd would be tbh. I'm not talking about the company, but the customers tend to lean a bit more towards flashier stuff.
The only way to know if the set will attract customers is to offer it. I do not know what that implies for the designer though; however, anyone can propose a drop, people cast votes on it, and if there are enough voters MD does the rest.
Post by: chris4prez on Mon, 28 September 2015, 12:08:09
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 28 September 2015, 12:09:28
I would love to see an attempt to get this on MD. I was really looking forward to getting this set.
+1
Post by: ideus on Mon, 28 September 2015, 12:11:09
I would love to see an attempt to get this on MD. I was really looking forward to getting this set.
+1
+1 I need a new beige set badly. My current one is so worn off that I can almost see through its legends at the switch stem.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 28 September 2015, 12:21:13
I would love to see an attempt to get this on MD. I was really looking forward to getting this set.
+1
+1 I need a new beige set badly. My current one is so worn off that I can almost see through its legends at the switch stem.
I mostly need only the mods to make my QWERTZ set into an ANSI standard bottom row set, but I would happily support a future run by buying a full set.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 28 September 2015, 12:25:19
I would love to see an attempt to get this on MD. I was really looking forward to getting this set.
+1
+1 I need a new beige set badly. My current one is so worn off that I can almost see through its legends at the switch stem.
I mostly need only the mods to make my QWERTZ set into an ANSI standard bottom row set, but I would happily support a future run by buying a full set.
I'd buy one just for the sake of keyboard collector's pride. How does someone can called himself a keyboard aficionado that does not own one classic Beige.
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 28 September 2015, 12:26:11
I mostly need only the mods to make my QWERTZ set into an ANSI standard bottom row set, but I would happily support a future run by buying a full set.
Yeah, I have like 4 vintage QWERTZ sets, so I'd be interested in buying like 3 Moogle Kits + a 6.25 spacebar to use them on modern boards.
Basically this (taken from jdcarpe's WTB thread):
(http://i.imgur.com/ilys0Fa.jpg)
I think if those Moogle Kits were in the 25-30$ area, we would reach MOQ in a week :thumb:
Post by: ideus on Mon, 28 September 2015, 12:33:25
I mostly need only the mods to make my QWERTZ set into an ANSI standard bottom row set, but I would happily support a future run by buying a full set.
Yeah, I have like 4 vintage QWERTZ sets, so I'd be interested in buying like 3 Moogle Kits + a 6.25 spacebar to use them on modern boards.
Basically this (taken from jdcarpe's WTB thread):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ilys0Fa.jpg)
I think if those Moogle Kits were in the 25-30$ area, we would reach MOQ in a week :thumb:
I have one spare, but it is SP made. Decent quality, but it is thinner than GMK, and it has round corners instead of squared ones.
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 28 September 2015, 12:54:05
But yeah, thin DCS just isn't the same as GMK. The difference in cap quality would trigger my OCD :p
Post by: jaffers on Wed, 28 October 2015, 05:50:01
So here is a link to easy to acquire, cheap and nasty knock off variants that aren't in the correct profile
(http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-keyboard-white-cherry-mx-switch-104-keycaps-Taihao-double-shot-ABS-Granite-Dolch-OEM-gaming/1996356442.html)
(http://i.imgur.com/AhXWhVa.jpg)
And here is another link to slightly harder to acquire but much more true to what they are copying knock offs (http://world.taobao.com/item/45157134097.htm)
(http://i.imgur.com/XlW6h91.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Jw3ADq7.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/bAPGuIh.png)
Post by: Applet on Wed, 28 October 2015, 06:40:34
Post by: ideus on Wed, 28 October 2015, 08:27:37
I'm still sad this didn't make it through.
So here is a link to easy to acquire, cheap and nasty knock off variants that aren't in the correct profile
(http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-keyboard-white-cherry-mx-switch-104-keycaps-Taihao-double-shot-ABS-Granite-Dolch-OEM-gaming/1996356442.html)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AhXWhVa.jpg)
And here is another link to slightly harder to acquire but much more true to what they are copying knock offs (http://world.taobao.com/item/45157134097.htm)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XlW6h91.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Jw3ADq7.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bAPGuIh.png)
The three at the bottom are diesub PBT caps, nothing like the double shot ABS OG Cherry, the texture, the feeling while typing on them are totally different. Those are totally different animals.
Post by: lolpes on Wed, 28 October 2015, 08:48:51
I'm still sad this didn't make it through.
So here is a link to easy to acquire, cheap and nasty knock off variants that aren't in the correct profile
(http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-keyboard-white-cherry-mx-switch-104-keycaps-Taihao-double-shot-ABS-Granite-Dolch-OEM-gaming/1996356442.html)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AhXWhVa.jpg)
And here is another link to slightly harder to acquire but much more true to what they are copying knock offs (http://world.taobao.com/item/45157134097.htm)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XlW6h91.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Jw3ADq7.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bAPGuIh.png)
The three at the bottom are diesub PBT caps, nothing like the double shot ABS OG Cherry, the texture, the feeling while typing on them are totally different. Those are totally different animals.
I agree that they are different, but I preffer the og pbt cherries texture much more, less slippery even compared brand new abs, I still enjoy the pbt more :p But to each it's own ;)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 28 October 2015, 08:51:26
I'm still sad this didn't make it through.
So here is a link to easy to acquire, cheap and nasty knock off variants that aren't in the correct profile
(http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-keyboard-white-cherry-mx-switch-104-keycaps-Taihao-double-shot-ABS-Granite-Dolch-OEM-gaming/1996356442.html)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AhXWhVa.jpg)
And here is another link to slightly harder to acquire but much more true to what they are copying knock offs (http://world.taobao.com/item/45157134097.htm)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XlW6h91.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Jw3ADq7.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bAPGuIh.png)
The three at the bottom are diesub PBT caps, nothing like the double shot ABS OG Cherry, the texture, the feeling while typing on them are totally different. Those are totally different animals.
I agree that they are different, but I preffer the og pbt cherries texture much more, less slippery even compared brand new abs, I still enjoy the pbt more :p But to each it's own ;)
If you have over 300 bucks to invest in one set, sure, be my guess. Besides, they are not available at your closest convenience store.
Post by: Stabilized on Wed, 28 October 2015, 09:21:05
Post by: UKKeycaps on Wed, 28 October 2015, 10:21:02
Yeah, I have like 4 vintage QWERTZ sets, so I'd be interested in buying like 3 Moogle Kits + a 6.25 spacebar to use them on modern boards.
Basically this (taken from jdcarpe's WTB thread):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ilys0Fa.jpg)
I think if those Moogle Kits were in the 25-30$ area, we would reach MOQ in a week :thumb:
With the appropriate blessing I could run a GB for something like this, the price might be slightly higher but the MOQ would be significantly lower than 250, maybe 160-180.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 28 October 2015, 13:38:55
Yeah, I have like 4 vintage QWERTZ sets, so I'd be interested in buying like 3 Moogle Kits + a 6.25 spacebar to use them on modern boards.
Basically this (taken from jdcarpe's WTB thread):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ilys0Fa.jpg)
I think if those Moogle Kits were in the 25-30$ area, we would reach MOQ in a week :thumb:
With the appropriate blessing I could run a GB for something like this, the price might be slightly higher but the MOQ would be significantly lower than 250, maybe 160-180.
How much would be the shipping cost from your location to ConUS and America in general?
Post by: padath on Wed, 28 October 2015, 14:15:04
Yeah, I have like 4 vintage QWERTZ sets, so I'd be interested in buying like 3 Moogle Kits + a 6.25 spacebar to use them on modern boards.
Basically this (taken from jdcarpe's WTB thread):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ilys0Fa.jpg)
I think if those Moogle Kits were in the 25-30$ area, we would reach MOQ in a week :thumb:
With the appropriate blessing I could run a GB for something like this, the price might be slightly higher but the MOQ would be significantly lower than 250, maybe 160-180.
That is certainly something that I would be interested in :thumb:
Post by: romevi on Wed, 28 October 2015, 14:16:24
Yeah, I have like 4 vintage QWERTZ sets, so I'd be interested in buying like 3 Moogle Kits + a 6.25 spacebar to use them on modern boards.
Basically this (taken from jdcarpe's WTB thread):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ilys0Fa.jpg)
I think if those Moogle Kits were in the 25-30$ area, we would reach MOQ in a week :thumb:
With the appropriate blessing I could run a GB for something like this, the price might be slightly higher but the MOQ would be significantly lower than 250, maybe 160-180.
If we can get it with cheapish shipping, that'd be wonderful.
Post by: KHAANNN on Wed, 28 October 2015, 14:21:42
Post by: UKKeycaps on Wed, 28 October 2015, 18:31:35
How much would be the shipping cost from your location to ConUS and America in general?
Around £3 untracked, £6 tracked
Post by: mathiasn on Thu, 29 October 2015, 02:22:54
With the appropriate blessing I could run a GB for something like this, the price might be slightly higher but the MOQ would be significantly lower than 250, maybe 160-180.
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 29 October 2015, 07:49:21
Yeah, I have like 4 vintage QWERTZ sets, so I'd be interested in buying like 3 Moogle Kits + a 6.25 spacebar to use them on modern boards.
Basically this (taken from jdcarpe's WTB thread):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ilys0Fa.jpg)
I think if those Moogle Kits were in the 25-30$ area, we would reach MOQ in a week :thumb:
With the appropriate blessing I could run a GB for something like this, the price might be slightly higher but the MOQ would be significantly lower than 250, maybe 160-180.
Sounds great!
I'd be in :thumb:
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:43:06
I don't think the next month or so would be a good time anyway given that Karura's Skidata GB has literally just started
Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:49:21
I'm pretty sure Photekq stated that he was going to run this at a later date rather than outright cancel it
I don't think the next month or so would be a good time anyway given that Karura's Skidata GB has literally just started
But at a price that hurts.
Post by: romevi on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:51:49
I'm pretty sure Photekq stated that he was going to run this at a later date rather than outright cancel it
I don't think the next month or so would be a good time anyway given that Karura's Skidata GB has literally just started
But at a price that hurts.
Yeah, I was all excited until I saw the final price. That and that, since payment is due right away, and there are limited sets of the relegendables, I'm going to have to decide soon if I want to cancel other GBs I'm part of or opt out of Skidata+ completely.
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:57:15
I'm pretty sure Photekq stated that he was going to run this at a later date rather than outright cancel it
I don't think the next month or so would be a good time anyway given that Karura's Skidata GB has literally just started
But at a price that hurts.
Yeah, I was all excited until I saw the final price. That and that, since payment is due right away, and there are limited sets of the relegendables, I'm going to have to decide soon if I want to cancel other GBs I'm part of or opt out of Skidata+ completely.
It's a bit of a trade off between the GB organiser and the participants when you go for a payment upfront mechanism - you have more certainty about payments but the orders tend to be extremely skewed towards the end of the group buy. CTRL[ALT] have cleverly addressed this in many of their buys by offering freebies like switch keyrings to the first 50 participants.
To be honest I would rather pay up front and have the order placed sooner with the vendor rather than have to wait for the organiser to chase up payments for ages
Post by: romevi on Thu, 29 October 2015, 10:00:15
I'm pretty sure Photekq stated that he was going to run this at a later date rather than outright cancel it
I don't think the next month or so would be a good time anyway given that Karura's Skidata GB has literally just started
But at a price that hurts.
Yeah, I was all excited until I saw the final price. That and that, since payment is due right away, and there are limited sets of the relegendables, I'm going to have to decide soon if I want to cancel other GBs I'm part of or opt out of Skidata+ completely.
It's a bit of a trade off between the GB organiser and the participants when you go for a payment upfront mechanism - you have more certainty about payments but the orders tend to be extremely skewed towards the end of the group buy. CTRL[ALT] have cleverly addressed this in many of their buys by offering freebies like switch keyrings to the first 50 participants.
To be honest I would rather pay up front and have the order placed sooner with the vendor rather than have to wait for the organiser to chase up payments for ages
That's fair. I totally understand the upfront payment. I'm just getting that stupid FOMO feeling because the relegendables are limited.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 10:00:47
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 29 October 2015, 10:03:22
I am not the best qualified to talk about prices of full GMK sets, as I have not joint many GB for them, I'd prefer to get old sets that I have been buying even in parts from different sources. I know I am one of the poor boys in the block. Because of that, I prefer modifiers sets that can be mixed and matched with my OG sets, without making my wallet cry. But, if a classic Beige is made, I will not have any good reason not to join such a great example of one of the best color ways for key caps, it is just my boring Joe soul speaking, though.
You can get PBT sets though that look exactly the same as GMK Classic Beige
I think this was part of why this GB didn't make the numbers - lots of people waiting on Ivan's PBT4
Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 10:05:01
I am not the best qualified to talk about prices of full GMK sets, as I have not joint many GB for them, I'd prefer to get old sets that I have been buying even in parts from different sources. I know I am one of the poor boys in the block. Because of that, I prefer modifiers sets that can be mixed and matched with my OG sets, without making my wallet cry. But, if a classic Beige is made, I will not have any good reason not to join such a great example of one of the best color ways for key caps, it is just my boring Joe soul speaking, though.
You can get PBT sets though that look exactly the same as GMK Classic Beige
I think this was part of why this GB didn't make the numbers - lots of people waiting on Ivan's PBT4
The feeling of typing on PBT is different than to be typing on ABS double shot though. Besides, there is that tendency of PBT to be a dirt magnet.
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 29 October 2015, 10:08:24
I am not the best qualified to talk about prices of full GMK sets, as I have not joint many GB for them, I'd prefer to get old sets that I have been buying even in parts from different sources. I know I am one of the poor boys in the block. Because of that, I prefer modifiers sets that can be mixed and matched with my OG sets, without making my wallet cry. But, if a classic Beige is made, I will not have any good reason not to join such a great example of one of the best color ways for key caps, it is just my boring Joe soul speaking, though.
You can get PBT sets though that look exactly the same as GMK Classic Beige
I think this was part of why this GB didn't make the numbers - lots of people waiting on Ivan's PBT4
The feeling of typing on PBT is different than to be typing on ABS double shot though. Besides, there is that tendency of PBT to be a dirt magnet.
Yeah I just think that a lot of people buy a set for the way it looks and most people don't want two boards with the same caps
Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 10:11:34
I am not the best qualified to talk about prices of full GMK sets, as I have not joint many GB for them, I'd prefer to get old sets that I have been buying even in parts from different sources. I know I am one of the poor boys in the block. Because of that, I prefer modifiers sets that can be mixed and matched with my OG sets, without making my wallet cry. But, if a classic Beige is made, I will not have any good reason not to join such a great example of one of the best color ways for key caps, it is just my boring Joe soul speaking, though.
You can get PBT sets though that look exactly the same as GMK Classic Beige
I think this was part of why this GB didn't make the numbers - lots of people waiting on Ivan's PBT4
I agree with that, there are users and collectors; there, I consider myself an user, more than a collector; therefore, with two boards, one for the office and one more for home, I'd be more than satisfy, however, some sets like the current GMK SNES that is in the works would be irresistible.
The feeling of typing on PBT is different than to be typing on ABS double shot though. Besides, there is that tendency of PBT to be a dirt magnet.
Yeah I just think that a lot of people buy a set for the way it looks and most people don't want two boards with the same caps
Post by: Taffy on Sat, 31 October 2015, 02:32:17
If anyone wants to cancel the order, I will gladly take yours!
Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 31 October 2015, 02:41:22
Is this drop complete? :-[
If anyone wants to cancel the order, I will gladly take yours!
can you even read?
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 31 October 2015, 02:48:41
Is this drop complete? :-[
If anyone wants to cancel the order, I will gladly take yours!
can you even read?
(http://i.giphy.com/SxkYad09qgVzy.gif)
Post by: Wulkes on Sat, 31 October 2015, 10:06:32
But, hopefully someone tries again soon, maybe next summer. Definitely a set I need in my life.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 31 October 2015, 14:01:39
Is this drop complete? :-[
If anyone wants to cancel the order, I will gladly take yours!
can you even read?Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/SxkYad09qgVzy.gif)
Come on, welcome the newbie, don't be mean!
Post by: ideus on Sat, 31 October 2015, 14:14:51
Is this drop complete? :-[
If anyone wants to cancel the order, I will gladly take yours!
This group buy was cancelled.
Post by: Taffy on Sun, 01 November 2015, 06:25:19
I will be more careful before I ask questions :(
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 01 November 2015, 06:38:48
Sorry, everyone... I am not used to this format and I got confused as I was looking through the threads.It's not really your fault. I hadn't even updated the OP, so unless you read through many pages of the thread you would not have known.
I will be more careful before I ask questions :(
Regarding the moogle/extra keys kit : At the moment I'm too busy to think about running a GB. Perhaps this will change in the near future, or perhaps it won't. I can't say. I'm happy to offer guidance when it comes to key selection if anyone else is interested in attempting a group buy for it.
I didn't come up with this colour scheme, all I did was choose the keys. Nobody needs my blessing to attempt a classic beige GB. That said, I must say that I would much prefer to see regular members running group buys rather than commercial entities. As far as I'm concerned a group buy is a community effort and should be kept as non-profit as possible. What UKKeycaps suggests (higher price, lower MOQ) is closer to a commercial pre-order than a group buy in my eyes. This is just my opinion though.
Also, on another note, if anyone wants to do this moogle GB it makes a lot more sense for someone outside the EU to run (or proxy for) this GB. Otherwise all the prices will be 20% higher due to VAT. Thanks so much EU for your glorious "free trade".
Post by: ideus on Sun, 01 November 2015, 08:12:42
Sorry, everyone... I am not used to this format and I got confused as I was looking through the threads.It's not really your fault. I hadn't even updated the OP, so unless you read through many pages of the thread you would not have known.
I will be more careful before I ask questions :(
Regarding the moogle/extra keys kit : At the moment I'm too busy to think about running a GB. Perhaps this will change in the near future, or perhaps it won't. I can't say. I'm happy to offer guidance when it comes to key selection if anyone else is interested in attempting a group buy for it.
I didn't come up with this colour scheme, all I did was choose the keys. Nobody needs my blessing to attempt a classic beige GB. That said, I must say that I would much prefer to see regular members running group buys rather than commercial entities. As far as I'm concerned a group buy is a community effort and should be kept as non-profit as possible. What UKKeycaps suggests (higher price, lower MOQ) is closer to a commercial pre-order than a group buy in my eyes. This is just my opinion though.
Also, on another note, if anyone wants to do this moogle GB it makes a lot more sense for someone outside the EU to run (or proxy for) this GB. Otherwise all the prices will be 20% higher due to VAT. Thanks so much EU for your glorious "free trade".
+1 Having members running the buys is always better, it is a shame you cannot run it really, you have the experience and you have earned the thrust of the community.
Post by: UKKeycaps on Sun, 01 November 2015, 16:35:48
Sorry, everyone... I am not used to this format and I got confused as I was looking through the threads.It's not really your fault. I hadn't even updated the OP, so unless you read through many pages of the thread you would not have known.
I will be more careful before I ask questions :(
Regarding the moogle/extra keys kit : At the moment I'm too busy to think about running a GB. Perhaps this will change in the near future, or perhaps it won't. I can't say. I'm happy to offer guidance when it comes to key selection if anyone else is interested in attempting a group buy for it.
I didn't come up with this colour scheme, all I did was choose the keys. Nobody needs my blessing to attempt a classic beige GB. That said, I must say that I would much prefer to see regular members running group buys rather than commercial entities. As far as I'm concerned a group buy is a community effort and should be kept as non-profit as possible. What UKKeycaps suggests (higher price, lower MOQ) is closer to a commercial pre-order than a group buy in my eyes. This is just my opinion though.
Also, on another note, if anyone wants to do this moogle GB it makes a lot more sense for someone outside the EU to run (or proxy for) this GB. Otherwise all the prices will be 20% higher due to VAT. Thanks so much EU for your glorious "free trade".
A VAT registered business doesn't have to worry about the 20% VAT :D
Post by: Karura on Sun, 01 November 2015, 16:49:20
you have earned the thrust of the community.
Yes, he has earned our thrust ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 01 November 2015, 16:57:50
A VAT registered business doesn't have to worry about the 20% VAT :DTrue, but if the price is being made higher anyway due to the fact that it's a commercial entity running the GB then the resultant price would be around the same for international buyers as if it were a non-VAT registered individual running the GB (and even higher for EU buyers since you will need to charge them VAT anyway).
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:02:15
Post by: ideus on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:23:09
I've contacted GMK about the possibility of running a moogle kit groupbuy, and I'm happy to run it if the price they give me is reasonable. However, if somebody else was already planning on going forward with the idea please PM me and let me know, I don't want to step on any toes.
I suggest you to open an IC thread as soon as you get some information back from GMK, the UK vendor is the only one that has showed some interest, but it would not be the best option price wise.
Post by: billnye on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:28:54
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:29:55
(http://i.imgur.com/ilys0Fa.jpg)
is not enough of a moggle kit imo.
Post by: Prelim on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:33:11
(http://i.imgur.com/iQzG5w6.jpg)
I call for Beige/Black/Dolch moogle's IC ;)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:34:27
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:35:41
Check billnye's Bluegaloo and add 5 row (A Profile) bottom row for winkey-less boards; any decent black on beige kit should have them.No. You don't want a set as large as that. Also, why would you need 1.5u keys when the original set you're converting already has them?
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:38:16
Agreed, it would be cool to have an ANSI left-shift and ANSI enter and backslash though, because most of the old Cherry sets are QWERTZ.Check billnye's Bluegaloo and add 5 row (A Profile) bottom row for winkey-less boards; any decent black on beige kit should have them.No. You don't want a set as large as that. Also, why would you need 1.5u keys when the original set you're converting already has them?
Post by: romevi on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:39:22
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:39:25
Agreed, it would be cool to have an ANSI left-shift and ANSI enter and backslash though, because most of the old Cherry sets are QWERTZ.That would still leave the set as QWERTZ, it would just fit an ANSI keyboard. How many US ANSI users really want a DE ANSI set? I'd argue very few.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:41:24
You could be right, sometimes I forget how few people touch-type.Agreed, it would be cool to have an ANSI left-shift and ANSI enter and backslash though, because most of the old Cherry sets are QWERTZ.That would still leave the set as QWERTZ, it would just fit an ANSI keyboard. How many US ANSI users really want a DE ANSI set? I'd argue very few.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:44:57
Check billnye's Bluegaloo and add 5 row (A Profile) bottom row for winkey-less boards; any decent black on beige kit should have them.No. You don't want a set as large as that. Also, why would you need 1.5u keys when the original set you're converting already has them?
A beige modifiers set replica should have row 5 profile mods to be faithful to the original. Bluegaloo already has 1.5u mods, it is just a matter of make them row 5 profile if interested parties want them.
In my case I do not use 1.25u mods, but that is irrelevant; I'd say, give the potential buyers the option and let them decide, I will buy the modifiers set with B or A mods profile, as long as it has 1.5 mods, otherwise I cannot use it.
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:46:26
Played a bit with the mockups this afternoon, imo this would make a solid moggle kit.
Possibly remove the grey pipeline and some of the capslock/Ctrl key.
The reason for 2.75&1.75 Rshift is so people with a 1800 keyset can put it on TKL people with a WKL keyset can have a split Rshift.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:48:21
Show Image(http://puu.sh/l5CIw/9120b7d118.jpg)
Played a bit with the mockups this afternoon, imo this would make a solid moggle kit.
Possibly remove the grey pipeline and some of the capslock/Ctrl key.
The reason for 2.75&1.75 Rshift is so people with a 1800 keyset can put it on TKL people with a WKL keyset can have a split Rshift.
Let the row 5 live.
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:49:57
A beige modifiers set replica should have row 5 profile mods to be faithful to the original. Bluegaloo already has 1.5u mods, it is just a matter of make them row 5 profile if interested parties want them.No, you misunderstand.
In my case I do not use 1.25u mods, but that is irrelevant; I'd say, give the potential buyers the option and let them decide, I will buy the modifiers set with B or A mods profile, as long as it has 1.5 mods, otherwise I cannot use it.
The purpose of a moogle kit is to convert a commonly available original set. In this case it's an original Cherry doubleshot beige set, which 99.9% of the time comes with 1.5u A-profile bottom row. Therefore having 1.5u keys in the moogle kit is pointless. It should contain only 1.25u bottom row keys, and perhaps arrow/numpad keys in B-profile for a full, matching bottom row.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:50:21
Show Image(http://puu.sh/l5CIw/9120b7d118.jpg)
Played a bit with the mockups this afternoon, imo this would make a solid moggle kit.
Possibly remove the grey pipeline and some of the capslock/Ctrl key.
The reason for 2.75&1.75 Rshift is so people with a 1800 keyset can put it on TKL people with a WKL keyset can have a split Rshift.
Let the row 5 live.
Are you proposing a Row 5 standard bottom row? Would GMK have molds for that?
Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:52:33
When azhdar mentioned this this is what I came up with. Mine has a good bit of keys though, a considerable amount moreShow Image(http://puu.sh/l5CIw/9120b7d118.jpg)
Played a bit with the mockups this afternoon, imo this would make a solid moggle kit.
Possibly remove the grey pipeline and some of the capslock/Ctrl key.
The reason for 2.75&1.75 Rshift is so people with a 1800 keyset can put it on TKL people with a WKL keyset can have a split Rshift.
i would do center caps, stepped windows caps, and center windowed caps, both iso shift and enter and pipeline, ansi shift and enter and pipeline, short shift, long shift, full 1.25 bottom row, w/o space bar, full 1.5 r4 bottom row, w/o spacebar, r5 winkeys, hhkb/70/1800 adapter
and then offer spacebars separately
Post by: ideus on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:55:56
A beige modifiers set replica should have row 5 profile mods to be faithful to the original. Bluegaloo already has 1.5u mods, it is just a matter of make them row 5 profile if interested parties want them.No, you misunderstand.
In my case I do not use 1.25u mods, but that is irrelevant; I'd say, give the potential buyers the option and let them decide, I will buy the modifiers set with B or A mods profile, as long as it has 1.5 mods, otherwise I cannot use it.
The purpose of a moogle kit is to convert a commonly available original set. In this case it's an original Cherry doubleshot beige set, which 99.9% of the time comes with 1.5u A-profile bottom row. Therefore having 1.5u keys in the moogle kit is pointless. It should contain only 1.25u bottom row keys, and perhaps arrow/numpad keys in B-profile for a full, matching bottom row.
What you say has a lot of sense and I got you since the first post that you wrote on this. But you should consider that some of us old boring Joes with existing OG Cherry sets may want to get a couple of extra mod sets to pair with existing alpha sets. But, I really want to have this done, that I'd buy a set, even if it does not have the beloved row A bottom row, just for the sake of supporting the GB, however, I cannot use it as I have my boards configured with 1.5u mods, and I prefer the taller mods, but who cares, do it as you want, I will be in, anyway.
Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 21 November 2015, 05:59:09
Post by: jaffers on Sat, 21 November 2015, 07:06:26
Post by: luckyryan333 on Sat, 21 November 2015, 10:40:51
I'd be super happy to jump back on this group buy to give it another go but it would have to be next year. I've got a lot on my plate currently, especially with christmas coming up. Still, I really really want this set, its the keycaps part of my endgame for mx switches
You are speaking for my feeling exactly. :(
Post by: Vaun on Mon, 23 November 2015, 03:41:02
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 23 November 2015, 03:42:27
This needs to happen, sooner or later.
+1 Really hope he gives it another try sometime after Xmas.
Post by: beltet on Mon, 23 November 2015, 07:25:12
This needs to happen, sooner or later.
Yes, yes, yes...
Post by: wodan on Tue, 01 December 2015, 16:45:07
Show Image(http://puu.sh/l5CIw/9120b7d118.jpg)
Played a bit with the mockups this afternoon, imo this would make a solid moggle kit.
Possibly remove the grey pipeline and some of the capslock/Ctrl key.
The reason for 2.75&1.75 Rshift is so people with a 1800 keyset can put it on TKL people with a WKL keyset can have a split Rshift.
Love it, could use at least 3 of those kits
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 03 December 2015, 04:43:30
I would also get two moogle sets like this. But I'd hope for a R5 1u Win Key with the Win8/10 logo.Show Image(http://puu.sh/l5CIw/9120b7d118.jpg)
Played a bit with the mockups this afternoon, imo this would make a solid moggle kit.
Possibly remove the grey pipeline and some of the capslock/Ctrl key.
The reason for 2.75&1.75 Rshift is so people with a 1800 keyset can put it on TKL people with a WKL keyset can have a split Rshift.
Post by: Crossfire on Mon, 21 December 2015, 07:41:58
I'll write to Santa anyway...
Post by: ideus on Mon, 21 December 2015, 11:31:59
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 21 December 2015, 11:39:45
Now that sets in standard colors have lower MoQ it may happen.
+1 on lower MOQ. How many orders do we get last time? Do we have a chance with lower MOQ?
Post by: Crossfire on Mon, 21 December 2015, 14:25:13
Maybe we should spread the word more when it's ready because the cherry classic is getting more and more popular...
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 21 December 2015, 14:36:25
How many moq are we speaking? I can lend a hand with european orders, namely, keysets will be made in germany, so why bother the trip to other continent and back?
Maybe we should spread the word more when it's ready because the cherry classic is getting more and more popular...
European orders for this buy were always going to ship from the EU (from photekq in UK). Only US/non-EU were going to ship from USA.
Post by: Crossfire on Mon, 21 December 2015, 14:52:28
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 21 December 2015, 15:33:02
Now that sets in standard colors have lower MoQ it may happen.
+1 on lower MOQ. How many orders do we get last time? Do we have a chance with lower MOQ?
+1 Really need some sets of these.
Post by: NorrisB on Mon, 21 December 2015, 17:12:00
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 21 December 2015, 17:13:05
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 21 December 2015, 17:13:54
Why hasn't massdrop done this yet?
That would require them to understand keyboards.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 21 December 2015, 17:14:37
Well they usually take ideas from here and just run them regardless.Why hasn't massdrop done this yet?
That would require them to understand keyboards.
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 21 December 2015, 17:39:37
Post by: xqwtz on Mon, 21 December 2015, 18:55:26
Post by: kekstee on Mon, 21 December 2015, 20:31:51
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 21 December 2015, 21:49:50
Why hasn't massdrop done this yet?
lol even unicorn vomit gmk sets get wayyy too much hate on there. Can you imagine what people would say if it was this much for a "stupid boring beige set".
Post by: ideus on Tue, 22 December 2015, 04:26:38
Why hasn't massdrop done this yet?
lol even unicorn vomit gmk sets get wayyy too much hate on there. Can you imagine what people would say if it was this much for a "stupid boring beige set".
I really love my stupid boring beige set.
(http://i.imgur.com/3ZPMV3E.jpg)
Post by: naasfu on Tue, 22 December 2015, 04:32:52
Why hasn't massdrop done this yet?
lol even unicorn vomit gmk sets get wayyy too much hate on there. Can you imagine what people would say if it was this much for a "stupid boring beige set".
I really love my stupid boring beige set.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3ZPMV3E.jpg)
wow that is indeed a stupid boring beige set. i would not order one of these.
(it would be more like two or three...)
Post by: kekstee on Tue, 22 December 2015, 08:55:51
(https://i.imgur.com/Z9J3Cu3.jpg)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 22 December 2015, 10:25:04
Post by: trenzafeeds on Tue, 22 December 2015, 15:57:04
Everybody needs stupid boring beige. But preferably with all matching keys....Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Z9J3Cu3.jpg)
Win 98 keys are the only way
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 22 December 2015, 16:25:01
Post by: jaffers on Tue, 22 December 2015, 16:45:01
Every time this thread gets pinged I get excited. :'(
I always forget that it has [GB] in the title instead of [IC] and think for a moment that the buy is starting up again... :'(
Post by: ideus on Tue, 22 December 2015, 19:02:25
Post by: rm-rf on Tue, 22 December 2015, 19:04:55
Every time this thread gets pinged I get excited. :'(
I always forget that it has [GB] in the title instead of [IC] and think for a moment that the buy is starting up again... :'(
you are not the only one.
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 22 December 2015, 19:18:07
Everybody needs stupid boring beige. But preferably with all matching keys....Oh that 's (\) 1x with E profile? Where did you find it?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Z9J3Cu3.jpg)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 22 December 2015, 19:32:04
Everybody needs stupid boring beige. But preferably with all matching keys....Oh that 's (\) 1x with E profile? Where did you find it?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Z9J3Cu3.jpg)
That is a good question.
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 22 December 2015, 20:14:16
Oh that 's (\) 1x with E profile? Where did you find it?Could be from a Portuguese layout Cherry board or from a G80-2100HDU :)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 22 December 2015, 20:15:26
Oh that 's (\) 1x with E profile? Where did you find it?Could be from a Portuguese layout Cherry board or from a G80-2100HDU :)
Have you ever considered to re-run the GB now with the lower MoQ that GMK has for common colors?
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 22 December 2015, 20:20:06
Have you ever considered to re-run the GB now with the lower MoQ that GMK has for common colors?Lower MOQ = higher costs. I don't think the price would be reasonable at 150 units, so it doesn't grab me too much.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 22 December 2015, 20:21:53
Have you ever considered to re-run the GB now with the lower MoQ that GMK has for common colors?Lower MOQ = higher costs. I don't think the price would be reasonable at 150 units, so it doesn't grab me too much.
It makes sense, it is a shame a classic set like this did not reach MoQ, thank you for trying.
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 22 December 2015, 21:12:44
Everybody needs stupid boring beige. But preferably with all matching keys....Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Z9J3Cu3.jpg)
Win 98 keys are the only way
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Random%20Funny%20Picks/Drunken-Cool-YES.gif)
Post by: kekstee on Wed, 23 December 2015, 04:24:26
Everybody needs stupid boring beige. But preferably with all matching keys....Oh that 's (\) 1x with E profile? Where did you find it?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Z9J3Cu3.jpg)
Yes, portuguese. Unfortunately my beige ANSI set is very light on the alpha color, so it doesn't match completely.
//e and then there is the issue of this stuff being on my table, not the GH60 which probably never arrives. Enough time for a rerun of this next year :3
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 23 December 2015, 07:30:47
Everybody needs stupid boring beige. But preferably with all matching keys....Oh that 's (\) 1x with E profile? Where did you find it?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Z9J3Cu3.jpg)
Yes, portuguese. Unfortunately my beige ANSI set is very light on the alpha color, so it doesn't match completely.
//e and then there is the issue of this stuff being on my table, not the GH60 which probably never arrives. Enough time for a rerun of this next year :3
Sound great. Thanks both photekq & kekstee.
Can you send me portuguese board pics via pm?
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 23 December 2015, 07:41:02
Everybody needs stupid boring beige. But preferably with all matching keys....Oh that 's (\) 1x with E profile? Where did you find it?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Z9J3Cu3.jpg)
Yes, portuguese. Unfortunately my beige ANSI set is very light on the alpha color, so it doesn't match completely.
//e and then there is the issue of this stuff being on my table, not the GH60 which probably never arrives. Enough time for a rerun of this next year :3
Sound great. Thanks both photekq & kekstee.
Can you send me portuguese board pics via pm?
for example :
(http://i.imgur.com/buV0d.jpg)
Post by: n__dles on Wed, 23 December 2015, 17:40:53
it is a shame a classic set like this did not reach MoQ, thank you for trying.2nded. You'd think everyone who doesn't have a set of OG Cherrys would have these at the top of their list. I'm in for a set, or 2 if it would help reach MOQ, if photek decides try again some day.
Win 98 keys are the only wayDefinitely, the new Win key looks out of place on classic sets.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 23 December 2015, 19:29:32
You'd think everyone who doesn't have a set of OG Cherrys would have these at the top of their list. I'm in for a set, or 2 if it would help reach MOQ, if photek decides try again some day.You sound like you would like a set of OG doubleshots. They're actually not very hard to get at all, I feel like some people develop this myth that they're hard to track down. Just post on DT.
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 23 December 2015, 19:37:21
You sound like you would like a set of OG doubleshots. They're actually not very hard to get at all, I feel like some people develop this myth that they're hard to track down. Just post on DT.Not everyone is happy to settle for DE ISO.. :rolleyes:
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 23 December 2015, 19:37:59
You sound like you would like a set of OG doubleshots. They're actually not very hard to get at all, I feel like some people develop this myth that they're hard to track down. Just post on DT.Not everyone is happy to settle for DE ISO.. :rolleyes:
I've actually had pretty good luck finding ansi, it's just more expensive
Post by: JulienC on Wed, 23 December 2015, 20:44:44
Post by: n__dles on Wed, 23 December 2015, 21:27:52
I've actually had pretty good luck finding ansi, it's just more expensiveInstead of posting in the what's in worth thread, I'll ask here: What's the non-inflated price for OG Cherry doubleshots?
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 23 December 2015, 21:28:26
I've actually had pretty good luck finding ansi, it's just more expensiveInstead of posting in the what's in worth thread, I'll ask here: What's the non-inflated price for OG Cherry doubleshots?
In what layout?
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 23 December 2015, 21:38:05
Everybody needs stupid boring beige. But preferably with all matching keys....Oh that 's (\) 1x with E profile? Where did you find it?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Z9J3Cu3.jpg)
Yes, portuguese. Unfortunately my beige ANSI set is very light on the alpha color, so it doesn't match completely.
//e and then there is the issue of this stuff being on my table, not the GH60 which probably never arrives. Enough time for a rerun of this next year :3
Sound great. Thanks both photekq & kekstee.
Can you send me portuguese board pics via pm?
for example :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/buV0d.jpg)
Great! Thanks azhdar.
Post by: luckyryan333 on Wed, 23 December 2015, 22:12:09
Paypal people mostly used was NOT accepted at that time because of PayPal account lockdown issue.
Don't we have really any chance to collaborate with a vendor like MD accepts PayPal for this GB in the near future?
I'd like to remind you how intelli78, Karura, and ghostjuggernaut deal with their GB to make them successful.
FYI, I saw an annoucement (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77944.0) from Hoffman MD joined a GH vendor officially a few days ago.
Post by: n__dles on Wed, 23 December 2015, 23:09:58
In what layout?Uups, thought I'd put ANSI.
Post by: xqwtz on Thu, 24 December 2015, 01:55:21
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 24 December 2015, 01:56:24
Did Photekq ever say how many sets were ordered? Like, was the MOQ missed by a lot or a little?I can't remember exactly but it was a little over 100. Like 120 or something. So around half.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 24 December 2015, 11:31:46
If you happen to have a Beige set already, just enjoy it, and do not let it go under any circumstance, it may not be any chance to get a new authentic one any time soon.
Post by: Acerk on Thu, 24 December 2015, 18:34:32
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 24 December 2015, 18:42:35
I imagine [CTRL]ALT and JTK will pick this up eventually.I hope not. Well, at least I hope I don't see this colourway done with JTK. It deserves better keycaps than those, unless tonnes of improvements are made to their moulds.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 24 December 2015, 19:22:55
I imagine [CTRL]ALT and JTK will pick this up eventually.I hope not. Well, at least I hope I don't see this colourway done with JTK. It deserves better keycaps than those, unless tonnes of improvements are made to their moulds.
I think we can totally make this work with the lower GMK Moq. We just need someone willing to lead it again.
Post by: Auxo on Thu, 24 December 2015, 22:08:09
Post by: jaffers on Thu, 24 December 2015, 22:39:41
If we pair with a vendor like Originative who can buy a heap of sets for us as well as people from the IC than we will make it a lot closer to the IC and they won't have to shell out a huge lump of cash for 250 sets and instead can make a safer investment for less sets which will all eventually be bought due to this set gaining interest from non hardcore keyboarders.
Or even UK keycaps (? i think thats what they are called, they are a relatively new company in the UK) but we need a vendor to jump on board with this. MD is **** and will jack the price a bit so they have a cut. We need a VENDOR. And besides, no one on MD will vote for the set cause they are all **** redditors who are more concerned with Dolch (yuk)
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 24 December 2015, 22:51:10
GMK won't lower the IC.
Keep up with the times bud. GMK is lowering to 250 moq
Post by: jaffers on Thu, 24 December 2015, 23:48:10
GMK won't lower the IC.
Keep up with the times bud. GMK is lowering to 250 moq
I am up with the times bud. That was the MOQ for this IC. But that is still too high for this set. And they ain't going to lower it any further
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 24 December 2015, 23:50:42
GMK won't lower the IC.
Keep up with the times bud. GMK is lowering to 250 moq
I am up with the times bud. That was the MOQ for this IC. But that is still too high for this set. And they ain't going to lower it any further
MOQ was 250 when this GB ran, but didn't it actually just lower to 150? I think that's what trenza is referring to.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 24 December 2015, 23:53:05
It just lowered for sure, I was confused about the numbers for standard vs custom colors. I believe the new standard moq is 150, and that's what beige is.GMK won't lower the IC.
Keep up with the times bud. GMK is lowering to 250 moq
I am up with the times bud. That was the MOQ for this IC. But that is still too high for this set. And they ain't going to lower it any further
MOQ was 250 when this GB ran, but didn't it actually just lower to 150? I think that's what trenza is referring to.
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Thu, 31 December 2015, 16:36:32
Post by: ideus on Thu, 31 December 2015, 17:21:58
It just lowered for sure, I was confused about the numbers for standard vs custom colors. I believe the new standard moq is 150, and that's what beige is.GMK won't lower the IC.
Keep up with the times bud. GMK is lowering to 250 moq
I am up with the times bud. That was the MOQ for this IC. But that is still too high for this set. And they ain't going to lower it any further
MOQ was 250 when this GB ran, but didn't it actually just lower to 150? I think that's what trenza is referring to.
This was explained before already, that one hundred and fifty minimum quantity order requires higher prices, that, according with Photo may be prohibiting that he is not interested in explore that possibility.
Post by: apejonk on Fri, 01 January 2016, 06:32:59
Post by: gameaholic on Fri, 01 January 2016, 06:56:34
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 01 January 2016, 07:10:06
I think besides the MOQ and price point issues there was also a bit of a timing conflict. I seem to recall spending on black pbt and hyperfuse gmk right before before this. I still scrounged together for this though because this is pretty much my end game set and I'm in for at least two of these sets. Also I remember the payment method being different than other group buys so that may have put since people off.
There was a timing issue sort of, but it wasn't for want of trying. From what I remember, Photek waited until Hyperfuse was over, but then another GMK buy just appeared taking a lot of attention away from beige, I can't remember what it was.
I think a lot of people were put off by the store as well, but I think it's a bit silly unless you are physically unable to use a certain payment method like some people have done with the CTRL-ALT GB checkout.
Post by: s3vv4 on Fri, 01 January 2016, 13:24:14
I think besides the MOQ and price point issues there was also a bit of a timing conflict. I seem to recall spending on black pbt and hyperfuse gmk right before before this. I still scrounged together for this though because this is pretty much my end game set and I'm in for at least two of these sets. Also I remember the payment method being different than other group buys so that may have put since people off.
There was a timing issue sort of, but it wasn't for want of trying. From what I remember, Photek waited until Hyperfuse was over, but then another GMK buy just appeared taking a lot of attention away from beige, I can't remember what it was.
I think a lot of people were put off by the store as well, but I think it's a bit silly unless you are physically unable to use a certain payment method like some people have done with the CTRL-ALT GB checkout.
Massdrop was running GMK Dolch at the same time, which is what I switched to since the runner of this didn't accept any of my payment options.
Post by: Pieminister on Fri, 01 January 2016, 15:32:46
Post by: pichu23 on Fri, 01 January 2016, 15:44:00
I would totally love to give Classic Beige another try, but I think a more well recognized payment method is a must. Whether that is by Massdrop or paypal or whatever. For some irrational reason I was just put off using stripe - i.e. paying up front to a private user. Yes I know there are safe guards etc. It's my hind brain thinking.
Maybe Massdrop? But I know many might be turned off by their recent issues. (GMK TA). But who knows.
Still holding out for this set or something similar eventually. :)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 01 January 2016, 16:02:56
I would totally love to give Classic Beige another try, but I think a more well recognized payment method is a must. Whether that is by Massdrop or paypal or whatever. For some irrational reason I was just put off using stripe - i.e. paying up front to a private user. Yes I know there are safe guards etc. It's my hind brain thinking.
Maybe Massdrop? But I know many might be turned off by their recent issues. (GMK TA). But who knows.
Still holding out for this set or something similar eventually. :)
Massdrop was crossed off for the initial run.
Post by: pichu23 on Fri, 01 January 2016, 16:18:43
I would totally love to give Classic Beige another try, but I think a more well recognized payment method is a must. Whether that is by Massdrop or paypal or whatever. For some irrational reason I was just put off using stripe - i.e. paying up front to a private user. Yes I know there are safe guards etc. It's my hind brain thinking.
Maybe Massdrop? But I know many might be turned off by their recent issues. (GMK TA). But who knows.
Still holding out for this set or something similar eventually. :)
Massdrop was crossed off for the initial run.
Ah okay, my bad. :-X
Forget bout massdrop then.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 01 January 2016, 19:14:38
Any way, we would need a well established group leader to pull this to completion, I just hope Photo to reconsider running it any time soon. It may be one of the few keyboard items that I may consider to invest in on 2016.
Post by: jaffers on Fri, 01 January 2016, 20:18:37
Post by: Vaun on Sat, 02 January 2016, 04:27:51
@pichu, I do not like massdrop myself, but it may be a way to get extra exposure for the set. For balance, it should be noted that at massdrop there are many individuals that are very vocal against any set other than the cheap TaiHaos and similar other china made ones, therefore, for a luxury classic set like this it would not be the best marketing channel. That may be even harder when you see an over one hundred dollars set along with a cheap under eighty dollars full keyboard, that even comes with PBT key caps that appears to be a magic word to command sales for people buying at MD.
Any way, we would need a well established group leader to pull this to completion, I just hope Photo to reconsider running it any time soon. It may be one of the few keyboard items that I may consider to invest in on 2016.
Don´t forget that the hypemaster Elrick is usually there to inform the crowd of their wrongful thinking ;)
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 02 January 2016, 05:12:47
Post by: Pieminister on Sat, 02 January 2016, 08:36:15
You will get all the usual people that would order it from geekhack, that number won't really change, and then you will get a few extra people that see the set on MassDrop that don't frequent GeekHack. I think ultimately the most important factors to ensure success are having a desirable keyset with decent marketing (mockups etc).
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 02 January 2016, 08:50:37
I never understood why people think that having a set on Massdrop would get low order numbers just because the MD community usually only likes cheap sets.
You will get all the usual people that would order it from geekhack, that number won't really change, and then you will get a few extra people that see the set on MassDrop that don't frequent GeekHack. I think ultimately the most important factors to ensure success are having a desirable keyset with decent marketing (mockups etc).
Some people for one reason or another dislike using Massdrop entirely. I am not one of those, but I understand why people have preferences over who they give their hard earned cash to. Admittedly this wouldn't affect the amount of buyers by a lot, a lot of GB runners are also against running on MD because of bad experiences.
From what I have witnessed, it also makes it harder for large groups from other non-English speaking forums in Asia for example to get in and submit large amounts of orders.
Their packing has left a lot to be desired, but it will be interesting to see how the
Post by: Pieminister on Sat, 02 January 2016, 10:46:51
Post by: ideus on Sat, 02 January 2016, 11:18:23
Fair, I never considered that MD might be bad for international communities. I live in Europe and shipping already sucks, but Asia might be even worse.
MD does not ship to some countries as close as Mexico, for example; therefore, if I want something I have to use my ConUS address, that sucks, the package may be lost while I can get it there, besides I should wait until I can travel to get the thing.
Post by: pichu23 on Sat, 02 January 2016, 11:42:21
@pichu, I do not like massdrop myself, but it may be a way to get extra exposure for the set. For balance, it should be noted that at massdrop there are many individuals that are very vocal against any set other than the cheap TaiHaos and similar other china made ones, therefore, for a luxury classic set like this it would not be the best marketing channel. That may be even harder when you see an over one hundred dollars set along with a cheap under eighty dollars full keyboard, that even comes with PBT key caps that appears to be a magic word to command sales for people buying at MD.
Any way, we would need a well established group leader to pull this to completion, I just hope Photo to reconsider running it any time soon. It may be one of the few keyboard items that I may consider to invest in on 2016.
Fair point. I too hope to get this set.
Although I'm in no rush to get it, so I don't think massdrop is needed for exposure. Last I think ppl got turned off by the price isn't it?
I would of course set aside my funds for this buy before I spend my money on other purposes. ^-^
@pichu, I do not like massdrop myself, but it may be a way to get extra exposure for the set. For balance, it should be noted that at massdrop there are many individuals that are very vocal against any set other than the cheap TaiHaos and similar other china made ones, therefore, for a luxury classic set like this it would not be the best marketing channel. That may be even harder when you see an over one hundred dollars set along with a cheap under eighty dollars full keyboard, that even comes with PBT key caps that appears to be a magic word to command sales for people buying at MD.
Any way, we would need a well established group leader to pull this to completion, I just hope Photo to reconsider running it any time soon. It may be one of the few keyboard items that I may consider to invest in on 2016.
Don´t forget that the hypemaster Elrick is usually there to inform the crowd of their wrongful thinking ;)
Ah Elrick, haha. ;D
Post by: ideus on Sat, 02 January 2016, 12:08:42
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 02 January 2016, 12:17:56
Post by: ATXTider on Sat, 02 January 2016, 12:18:37
By the way, there is an Elrick at MD but I am not sure if it is the same we have at GH, the one there has a guy with a mohawk hair cut as avatar.
Same asshat. He has a different avatar here.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 02 January 2016, 12:58:00
By the way, there is an Elrick at MD but I am not sure if it is the same we have at GH, the one there has a guy with a mohawk hair cut as avatar.
Same asshat. He has a different avatar here.
It is good to know is the same guy, but I am not sure to recognize his prose there.
Post by: shower_king on Sat, 02 January 2016, 13:40:14
so many GMK's GB badly split the demand for the GMK. however i think we could summon up enough time and money for this SNES and Classis beige at some time in the near future.
i could fully appreciate and understand the sadness from Photekq and i know the great and hard work photekq have done to make this happen.
i have joined all these GMK's gb , i am not tired and exhausted but my wallet was.
after this failure, i also so many kind people shows continuous interest and attention on this set. i think this classic beige along with the SNES one do have a possibility to try make this happen again at a foreseeable future.
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 02 January 2016, 14:00:44
Post by: ATXTider on Sat, 02 January 2016, 16:31:37
even SNES is on the ropes on MD
More like the count is at 7
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Sat, 02 January 2016, 18:10:44
from hyperfuse to triumph adler, to miami night , to skidata.
so many GMK's GB badly split the demand for the GMK. however i think we could summon up enough time and money for this SNES and Classis beige at some time in the near future.
i could fully appreciate and understand the sadness from Photekq and i know the great and hard work photekq have done to make this happen.
i have joined all these GMK's gb , i am not tired and exhausted but my wallet was.
after this failure, i also so many kind people shows continuous interest and attention on this set. i think this classic beige along with the SNES one do have a possibility to try make this happen again at a foreseeable future.
when are you going to get GMK CMYK going finally? need this for miami nights, which btw is another GMK run coming up
Post by: wodan on Sun, 03 January 2016, 05:49:08
And almost everyone with OG Cherrys needs a modern bottom row.
I'm sure that would reach much higher order counts since the price could be lower and it's something almost every owner of OG Cherry sets needs.
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 03 January 2016, 06:31:25
And almost everyone with OG Cherrys needs a modern bottom row.And a centered-stem Caps lock.
Post by: pichu23 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 07:07:17
And almost everyone with OG Cherrys needs a modern bottom row.And a centered-stem Caps lock.
There's a centered-stem caps lock.
I'm guessing you meant the stepped caps lock? That's only for off centered.
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 03 January 2016, 07:14:04
No, I mean the full touch R3 centered stem, I haven't seen it in any OG set.And almost everyone with OG Cherrys needs a modern bottom row.And a centered-stem Caps lock.
There's a centered-stem caps lock.
I'm guessing you meant the stepped caps lock? That's only for off centered.
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 07:25:11
(http://i.imgur.com/ctSwi.jpg)
However, OG Cherry boards isn't use Center Capslock. Cherry only use Center-off Stepped Capslock. So, you can't find it.
Post by: pichu23 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 08:25:12
No, I mean the full touch R3 centered stem, I haven't seen it in any OG set.And almost everyone with OG Cherrys needs a modern bottom row.And a centered-stem Caps lock.
There's a centered-stem caps lock.
I'm guessing you meant the stepped caps lock? That's only for off centered.
Talking Tree mentioned this caps:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ctSwi.jpg)
However, OG Cherry boards isn't use Center Capslock. Cherry only use Center-off Stepped Capslock. So, you can't find it.
Yeah, got it now. sorry for the confusion.
Post by: wodan on Sun, 03 January 2016, 09:07:57
I'll have 10 !!!
You can use the rightshift from 1800 Cherry boards as capslock, looks okay. That's how my Skidata Poker got a Capslock. Missing the rightshift then though ;)
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 03 January 2016, 09:32:38
Post by: wodan on Sun, 03 January 2016, 09:49:11
I'm just incapable of pursuing anything for more than a months though.
Post by: padath on Sun, 03 January 2016, 12:59:52
Don't forget to include spacebars as well.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 03 January 2016, 14:37:24
It's great news that a GMK moogle kit is in the planning :thumb:
Don't forget to include spacebars as well.
Is it? I do not think so, it was only some people talking about their wishes.
Post by: padath on Sun, 03 January 2016, 14:52:28
Is it? I do not think so, it was only some people talking about their wishes.
Yes, I think you're right after re-reading, wishful thinking on my part.
I think I remember somebody saying some weeks ago that they had asked GMK for a quote for a moogle kit GB but I don't recall who it was.
Post by: wodan on Sun, 03 January 2016, 15:29:49
Post by: ideus on Sun, 03 January 2016, 17:51:17
Is it? I do not think so, it was only some people talking about their wishes.
Yes, I think you're right after re-reading, wishful thinking on my part.
I think I remember somebody saying some weeks ago that they had asked GMK for a quote for a moogle kit GB but I don't recall who it was.
This thread should be closed, it is about a GB that has been cancelled, because it did not meet MoQ, after that, everything here has been a long discussion about possibilities of rerunning it, that seems pretty much unfeasible. If someone wants to run a kit he/she should open an IC thread on that, meanwhile, everything we have here could be entertaining, but it is not going anywhere.
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 03 January 2016, 17:57:31
This thread should be closed, it is about a GB that has been cancelled, because it did not meet MoQ, after that, everything here has been a long discussion about possibilities of rerunning it, that seems pretty much unfeasible. If someone wants to run a kit he/she should open an IC thread on that, meanwhile, everything we have here could be entertaining, but it is not going anywhere.Agreed.