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Title: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Thu, 27 January 2022, 12:37:55
(https://i.imgur.com/NHpxUDT.png)

DCS ''Yellowed''

Consider filling out IC Form, I'm considering WYSE legends. Extra thoughts are welcome as well.

IC Form:https://forms.gle/xhwuGhoLbJrJPCEu7 (https://forms.gle/xhwuGhoLbJrJPCEu7)

IG:https://www.instagram.com/prestonwalzdesignstudio (https://www.instagram.com/prestonwalzdesignstudio)

Discord: https://discord.gg/nWTAbK5sY9 (https://discord.gg/nWTAbK5sY9)

Inpiration

DCS ''Yellowed'', is inspired by vintage keyboards that are often found with aged yellowed keycaps. Typically, enthusiast restore their yellowed keycaps to their former glory, but... Why not embrace the yellow?
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I made this set with the goal of retaining that vintage style we all know and love, whilst modernizing it to a point where it would sit comfortably in contemporary desk setups.

Why DCS

DCS profile is slowly making its return to the keyboard scene. I think there are already so many cherry profile keysets (I'm slightly bored of it), DCS offers an entirely different feel and typing experience. The DCS profile has a thinner profile than GMK caps, this means a slightly ''chirpier'' sound, you'll also be able to fully appreciate the finer characteristics of the keyboard and key-feel when typing. This leads to a distinct typing experience some can describe as ''raw'', or ''pure''.
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I'm a fan

Vendors

US TBA
CA TBA
EU TBA
UK TBA
CN TBA
KR TBA
OCE TBA

When

(Estimate)
Q2 2022

Proposed Kits

(https://i.imgur.com/A0uhdwj.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/PxKvc7y.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/BaLorAp.png)

Accessories

TBA

RENDERS:

(https://i.imgur.com/PmcipOI.png?2)(https://i.imgur.com/mTB1hwV.png?2)
(https://i.imgur.com/2ABDLw9.png)(https://i.imgur.com/7v501L1.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/LqnRoiy.png)(https://i.imgur.com/bwRRizb.png)



TECHNICAL SPECS

  • Made in Washington by Signature Plastics LLC
  • DCS profile (1-1-2-3-4-4) w Cherry legends
  • Compatible with MX Style switches
  • ABS plastic
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Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Thu, 27 January 2022, 12:38:38
Changelog:

1/27 - IC Posted
1/27 - Fixed IC question
1/28 - Fixed Discord link
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: of_sam on Thu, 27 January 2022, 12:39:09
Why
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: kameron on Thu, 27 January 2022, 12:40:24
please consider adding 3/4key and terminal iso support as while as using Wyse legends
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Sandy on Thu, 27 January 2022, 12:41:09
Are the mods triple shot? The text and icon are different colors or is that just an illusion from font weight
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: DubbTom on Thu, 27 January 2022, 12:43:39
How about a pre-shined kit as well  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Fraaaan on Thu, 27 January 2022, 12:47:33
RGB mods are great! +1 for WYSE legends.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: LaserCrafter on Thu, 27 January 2022, 12:53:48
do wyse legends pls and ty
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: notquant on Thu, 27 January 2022, 12:54:19
Looking good, love the RGB mods. Wyse support would be appreciated as well!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: nu_types on Thu, 27 January 2022, 12:55:49
Once it eventually yellows you'll have DCS Brown
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Aiwanei on Thu, 27 January 2022, 12:56:18
another +1 for Wyse Legends, fits the vintage DCS concept a lot better imo.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Moods on Thu, 27 January 2022, 12:57:36
Nice F13  :))
Would like to see WYSE also
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: stewfayew on Thu, 27 January 2022, 12:58:28
Like a fine aged cheese...

Edit: Consider using WYSE legends :) and adding mod tilde
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Thu, 27 January 2022, 13:05:07
You have some goofiness going on with your ISO compatibility alpha-wise.  Right now you're halfway between two common setups.

Currently you have:

R3 '@
R3 #~
R4 <>


I recommend one of these setups:

UK ISO, which requires 6 alphas

R1 `¬ or `¬¦
R1 2"
R1 3£
R3 '@
R3 #~
R4 \|


Terminal Minimal US ISO, which requires 2 alphas

R3 \|
R4 <>


Windows Minimal US ISO, also just 2 alphas, though less recommended outside certain contexts

R3 \|
R4 \|


Apple US International ISO, 3 alphas, very rarely seen in the hobby

R1 §±
R3 \|
R4 `~
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: fruitykeeb on Thu, 27 January 2022, 13:07:09
looks good! please consider 3-key in base for 40s compatibility  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Neely_12 on Thu, 27 January 2022, 13:14:16
Unless you plan on offering the numpad kit at a high moq, it would probably be best to include it in base. Kitting needs a good bit of work, and I would like to see the quality of the renders improved a little to better represent what you’re trying to show. Personally think you should go with wyse or gorton legends for this. Finally target pricing would be nice, since it’s relatively easy to get quotes. I’ve listed all the kitting changes are immediately apparent to me below:

Base:
Add the four uk iso keys you are missing (not, mod not, 1, and 2) or just change to terminal
Move R1 end and pg dn to numpad kit or move numpad kit to base
Change the stepped caps to say double line “caps lock” instead of “caps”
Add mod tilde
Change 1.5u backspace and iso enter to text+icon, and would encourage 1.25u to be text only.

Numpad:
If you keep it separate of base: add equals
Remove second enter
Would encourage adding arrows and Nav subs
Change “num” to double line “num lock”
Add 1u + and -

Other:
Please add a spacebars kit
Please list what stock colors you are using
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: MIGHTY CHICKEN on Thu, 27 January 2022, 13:21:38
Another +1 for wise legends
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: ZavaZ86 on Thu, 27 January 2022, 13:37:13
Fix the 1.25u shifts, it's supposed to be icon+text and not icon only. It is also sitting higher than the other icons. Also don't just include UK-ISO because of a very loud minority.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: herbologist on Thu, 27 January 2022, 14:12:53
I'm a fan of the theme, but there definitely needs to be some changes.

numpad should really be in the base, you're missing a spacebar kit currently. Please use wyse on dcs, especially because it's a vintage themed set. not everything needs to use cherry legends.

Sent from my Pixel 6 Pro using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: PixelPlays__ on Thu, 27 January 2022, 14:23:37
Why is there no render for F13?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: carlfink on Thu, 27 January 2022, 14:42:39
+1 for wyse  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: paulgali on Thu, 27 January 2022, 15:05:06
Here's a funny thing
More
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/760910775438671887/936365022437859440/unknown.png)

Jokes aside, you have 10u, but no other spacebar kits, and very strange compat on ISO - consider NoPunIn10Did's comment. Also f13 box? huh
I understand its targeting that old school layout but add compat for modern layouts. People might like it and there's no need to alienate people because of that.

If that base kit is over 80USD I would be shocked
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Thu, 27 January 2022, 15:24:15
You have some goofiness going on with your ISO compatibility alpha-wise.  Right now you're halfway between two common setups.

Currently you have:

R3 '@
R3 #~
R4 <>


I recommend one of these setups:

UK ISO, which requires 6 alphas

R1 `¬ or `¬¦
R1 2"
R1 3£
R3 '@
R3 #~
R4 \|


Terminal Minimal US ISO, which requires 2 alphas

R3 \|
R4 <>


Windows Minimal US ISO, also just 2 alphas, though less recommended outside certain contexts

R3 \|
R4 \|


Apple US International ISO, 3 alphas, very rarely seen in the hobby

R1 §±
R3 \|
R4 `~


Thank you for the suggestions, I will be taking a closer look and make changes accordingly.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Thu, 27 January 2022, 15:30:05
Here's a funny thing
More
Show Image
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/760910775438671887/936365022437859440/unknown.png)

Jokes aside, you have 10u, but no other spacebar kits, and very strange compat on ISO - consider NoPunIn10Did's comment. Also f13 box? huh
I understand its targeting that old school layout but add compat for modern layouts. People might like it and there's no need to alienate people because of that.

If that base kit is over 80USD I would be shocked

Thank you for the joke, you just made my day. Jokes aside (heh), similar description of DCS.. yes. Do I genuinely feel this way about DCS... also yes. The F13 box, sorry haha. Likely, I'm going to render again with the kitting changes suggested and F13 as an actual key, with mod and alpha colors.

I will also consider spacebar kitting for the set. Thank you for the valuable input.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Thu, 27 January 2022, 15:31:30
Why is there no render for F13?

I will be fixing soon, alongside adding mod colored F13 and other kitting additions. Thank you for the input.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Thu, 27 January 2022, 15:33:43
please consider adding 3/4key and terminal iso support as while as using Wyse legends

I will take a look. For WYSE legends, I am still in consideration. Though, yours and others feedback is heard. Thank you for the input.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Tyson on Thu, 27 January 2022, 19:40:30
If that base kit is over 80USD I would be shocked

As much as I would love to also see the base kit price be $80, I could be wrong but even if this uses stock SP colors there's potential for it to be $90+ due to the price of resin being extremely high right now. After getting multiple quotes for DCS Rectifier no matter how small I tried making the base kit I was unable to consider any price point under $100 due to the prices SP quoted me. But then again I could be wrong, SP prices could be very different set to set. I'm down for this if you are able to price it at $80!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: paulgali on Thu, 27 January 2022, 22:50:34
please consider adding 3/4key and terminal iso support as while as using Wyse legends

I will take a look. For WYSE legends, I am still in consideration. Though, yours and others feedback is heard. Thank you for the input.

Send me the colors and ill run you a WYSE render in under a minute in private. At least you could have an idea of how it looks.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Fri, 28 January 2022, 00:09:56
Are the mods triple shot? The text and icon are different colors or is that just an illusion from font weight

No, nothing is triple shot. It's likely the weight of the fonts causing a slight illusion as you mentioned. I apologize
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Juan. on Fri, 28 January 2022, 04:15:16
Response:
[TBA]
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: treeleaf64 on Fri, 28 January 2022, 11:39:25
It look like 9009   Are   you making a   copy cat
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Fri, 28 January 2022, 12:16:58
It look like 9009   Are   you making a   copy cat

No treeleaf. It's ''yellowed''.  :D
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Mikhail on Fri, 28 January 2022, 12:21:25
RGB mods is good idea. Maybe add yellow sys/code caps like in GMK RGBYK?
And, if SP have cherry style font for DCS, can they made cherry style Russian subletters?))
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Fri, 28 January 2022, 12:29:52
RGB mods is good idea. Maybe add yellow sys/code caps like in GMK RGBYK?
And, if SP have cherry style font for DCS, can they made cherry style Russian subletters?))

I will consider adding yellow, but I want to keep the cost low. Personally, I don't like how the yellow ends up looking when applied, I much prefer the RGB modifier WKL builds.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: kameron on Fri, 28 January 2022, 13:01:18
It look like 9009   Are   you making a   copy cat

Big Fan Mr Treeleaf69-5 this is clearly yellow and draws no inspiration from pauls set smh my head
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: TheNeonKnight on Fri, 28 January 2022, 16:04:24
Will the 10u bar be 7u stabbed?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Fri, 28 January 2022, 16:53:42
Will the 10u bar be 7u stabbed?

Yes. The 10u spacebar will require 7u stabilizers.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Mechboards on Fri, 28 January 2022, 16:55:49
This looks great!
Title: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 28 January 2022, 17:09:43
+1 for WYSE legends, also to make it stand out more compared to 9009.

On that same note, I wonder if this is “yellowed enough” or still too close to the classic beige combo. Perhaps have a side by side render?


And your discord link is broken ;)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Fri, 28 January 2022, 17:12:34
+1 for WYSE legends, also to make it stand out more compared to 9009.

On that same note, I wonder if this is “yellowed enough” or still too close to the classic beige combo. Perhaps have a side by side render?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm currently developing a render with different beige sets next to DCS ''Yellowed'' to compare. Thank you for the suggestion.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 28 January 2022, 17:16:10
+1 for WYSE legends, also to make it stand out more compared to 9009.

On that same note, I wonder if this is “yellowed enough” or still too close to the classic beige combo. Perhaps have a side by side render?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm currently developing a render with different beige sets next to DCS ''Yellowed'' to compare. Thank you for the suggestion.
Nice :)

It’s probably very visible irl. I have some og doubleshots that in a vacuum don’t look that Yellow. But hold it next to a new set and it looks like the og’s have mustard all over it :P


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Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Fri, 28 January 2022, 17:29:51
+1 for WYSE legends, also to make it stand out more compared to 9009.

On that same note, I wonder if this is “yellowed enough” or still too close to the classic beige combo. Perhaps have a side by side render?


And your discord link is broken ;)

Good catch. Fixed discord link.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sat, 29 January 2022, 00:47:37
It look like 9009   Are   you making a   copy cat

No treeleaf. It's ''yellowed''.  :D



v helpful "yellow"   what are the colors
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Kokaloo on Sat, 29 January 2022, 00:51:47
It look like 9009   Are   you making a   copy cat

No treeleaf. It's ''yellowed''.  :D



v helpful "yellow"   what are the colors

yellow
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: HappyB0T on Sat, 29 January 2022, 02:31:04
Treeleaf
yellow + blue = green
you will be fine.
___________________________

Missed opportunity not to render this on a vintage board.
Most of render color choices don't seem to pair with the board / keyset well.
Consider A beige board > A soft green > A deep green > a yellow board.

This set reminds me of yellow teeth. Get the theme but not really into it.
If the spirit of the ic was "make your old boards look old again with something new" I probably would not feel so confused right now. +1 Wyse Legends
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sun, 30 January 2022, 16:31:23
what is SP color you are using so i can be at peace  that it is not copy  cat
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Sun, 30 January 2022, 18:19:03
what is SP color you are using so i can be at peace  that it is not copy  cat

Modifier color: SP stock color GAW
Alpha color: PANTONE 11-0617 TCX

I'll be adding these colors to the IC thread soon.
Title: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: mcmcmc on Sun, 30 January 2022, 22:55:18
+2 for wyse
i like your inspiration.

P.S. i know that you are using krk, if you are thinking of changing to wyse there’s Fooblitzky’s model you can use. it’s much better than krk.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: zyyg on Tue, 22 February 2022, 04:58:26
HI ,When will start groupbuy
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Tue, 22 February 2022, 11:02:01
HI ,When will start groupbuy

Feel free to join my Discord Server, or follow my Instagram page. I'll be posting updates/news regarding this project on both platforms.

edit* links:

Discord Server: https://discord.gg/nWTAbK5sY9
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prestonwalzdesignstudio/
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Fraaaan on Wed, 23 February 2022, 12:35:26
HI ,When will start groupbuy

Feel free to join my Discord Server, or follow my Instagram page. I'll be posting updates/news regarding this project on both platforms.

edit* links:

Discord Server: https://discord.gg/nWTAbK5sY9
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prestonwalzdesignstudio/

No updates here on Geekhack?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Wed, 23 February 2022, 13:18:04
HI ,When will start groupbuy

Feel free to join my Discord Server, or follow my Instagram page. I'll be posting updates/news regarding this project on both platforms.

edit* links:

Discord Server: https://discord.gg/nWTAbK5sY9
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prestonwalzdesignstudio/

No updates here on Geekhack?

There will be updates here on Geekhack. For me, I prefer my keyboard related updates on these two platforms (Discord Instagram), feel free to follow this project on whichever is best for you.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: mr_foggy on Wed, 23 February 2022, 16:45:46
thank god it's abs
+1 for wyse legends pls
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Wed, 23 February 2022, 17:34:15
thank god it's abs
+1 for wyse legends pls

Haha yes, WYSE renders will come soon.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: vishydesigns on Sun, 27 February 2022, 18:40:35
Definitely do WYSE legends!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: antran99 on Sun, 27 March 2022, 05:13:22
OG DCS legend please
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: whitewolf154 on Sun, 27 March 2022, 11:50:19
+2 wyse legend  :p
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Fri, 20 May 2022, 12:43:08
Hello Geekhack.

Development on this project has been paused. I'll hopefully continue soon after GMK + DCS RGBYK 2022: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=117300.0
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Preston Walz on Wed, 17 August 2022, 22:50:22
Hello project - ''Yellowed'' enjoyer,

I removed the RGB modifiers kit. Reason being, my GMK + DCS RGBYK 2022 GB is live right now, and features better compatibility, more keys included, and is an overall better package. Here's the GH link, please consider purchasing a set: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=118119.0

This is just a quick update to inform of the removal of the RGB kit, and the currently running RGBYK 2022 GBs. DCS ''Yellowed'' will continue its development and undergo suggested changes/feedback hopefully before the end of this year.

Here's a small list of changes you can expect to take place when development resumes:

- Major kitting revamp (I want to try my best to keep the set sub $110 pricing, even less if possible)
- Legends will be switched to OG DCS WYSE/Gorton, meaning renders will also be updated.
- Plastic stock and custom colors will be posted to IC.


Thank you for the read!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: CaesarAZealad on Thu, 18 August 2022, 10:50:56
As both a DCS enjoyer and a yellowed ABS enjoyer, I approve of this :)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: ankit on Tue, 23 August 2022, 07:42:38
- Major kitting revamp (I want to try my best to keep the set sub $110 pricing, even less if possible)

My brother in Christ it's a TKL base kit how are you gonna make it smaller. You can hit $110 with your current kitting.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: lewisflude on Tue, 23 August 2022, 08:53:55
Looks really nice! Good luck with IC
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 23 August 2022, 08:55:52
- Major kitting revamp (I want to try my best to keep the set sub $110 pricing, even less if possible)

My brother in Christ it's a TKL base kit how are you gonna make it smaller. You can hit $110 with your current kitting.

the ol "make the base kit cheap and then add a $60 extension kit everyone is forced to buy because the base kit has nothing in it" strategy
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: lewisflude on Tue, 23 August 2022, 08:57:25
- Major kitting revamp (I want to try my best to keep the set sub $110 pricing, even less if possible)

My brother in Christ it's a TKL base kit how are you gonna make it smaller. You can hit $110 with your current kitting.

the ol "make the base kit cheap and then add a $60 extension kit everyone is forced to buy because the base kit has nothing in it" strategy

That's actually a very good point  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS ''Yellowed''
Post by: superjackie on Tue, 30 August 2022, 01:40:43
gb q2 2022? what?