Water cooling looks cooler.
Water cooling looks cooler.
Also really expensive.
290 for the kit + 100 for the gpu waterblock
Water cooling looks cooler.
Also really expensive.
290 for the kit + 100 for the gpu waterblock
That's expensive indeed. By reading this thread I'd say the extra work + price + dangers do not compensate. I mean, air cooling is 'equivalent' right?
balcony cooling here in russia.
balcony cooling here in russia.
i used to live in the old fund => thick walls => big distance between window frames => pc cooled between frames ftw!balcony cooling here in russia.
He's not kidding, I used to stick my PC next to an open window in my flat in St. Pete in the winter.
FREEZING temps. literaly.
i used to live in the old fund => thick walls => big distance between window frames => pc cooled between frames ftw!balcony cooling here in russia.
He's not kidding, I used to stick my PC next to an open window in my flat in St. Pete in the winter.
FREEZING temps. literaly.
I USED TO HAVE A DELL PENTIUM 4 LAPTOP WHERE I'D PUT IT IN THE FREEZER TO KEEP IT FROM OVERHEATING.
corsair closed loop H Series.
never worry about leaks,evaporation,algae.
almost as powerful as triple rad setups (the 2x120), none of the hassle.
there are now many closed looped systems available from different manufacturers (i only say corsair cuz that's my experience)
i think last i saw Artic cooling is even releasing a gpu only closed loop 120mm
that means on most modern cases you could have a
2x120mm cpu closed loop connect to the top
and a 1x120mm gpu connect to the back.
you don't have to deal with leaks, reservoirs, cleaning...
admittedly it is a 2 loop system, it's not gonna be as powerful as a more finely tuned triple rad, and have 2 pumps, but i'm sure it'll be at least 75% cheaper, be nearly as quiet and nearly as effective.
i don't remember the last time i opened up my pc or even checked my overclock, but it's an amd be dual core something that i unlocked the other 2 cores (so it's a quad) and went from 2.5 to 3.5G overclock. I think i've been running it for 2 years? this is on quiet too, i have the pump on the quiet setting (1 of 3) and my fans are controlled by speedfan, they've been spinning at 45% for years (unless i reboot, they go 100%).
the last air cooler i bought was some $50 monstrosity that worked really well but weighed as much as a show dog and needed 2 120mm fans. I gladly payed $90 for this closed loop 2x120mm corsair (i think it was a sale)
On the quieter mid-range setting, the H100 loses out to the NH-D14, Silver Arrow, Silver Arrow SB-E, TC14PE, and, I believe, the Archon SB-E. It only beats them when you put it in the very loud high performance setting and only then by a 1C, 2C on a good day. The Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme is as loud as the H100 on the highest setting and beats it at the highest setting by several C.
That kit you're linking to is ancient in water cooling terms. It loses out to Swiftech's H220 and is handily beat by any custom loop on the market with a 240mm rad. The XSPC Raystorm with AX360 (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20836/ex-wat-264/XSPC_Raystorm_750_AX360_Universal_CPU_Water_Cooling_Kit_New_Rev_4_Pump_Included_w_Free_Dead-Water.html?tl=g30c321s1310) is dramatically cheaper than the Swiftech you linked to and will dance circles around it and the H100. You can also pick up an even cheaper XSPC Raystorm kit with 240mm rad (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21235/ex-wat-270/XSPC_Raystorm_750_EX240_Extreme_Universal_CPU_Water_Cooling_Kit_New_Rev_4_Pump_Included_w_Free_Dead-Water.html?tl=g30c321s1310) that will dance circles around the H100, H100i, and any other 240mm CLC and costs the same as the CLCs and a new pair of fans.
@ eth0s ... I will agree with most of what you said and don't want to start an in-depth discussion of WC rigs, but I will say that the 17 Gentle Typhoon 1850's on my Aquaero is NO WHERE near as loud as what it took to air cool three GTX 470s. I would guess my average RPM for the fans is 800 to 900 and the rig is very close to dead silent. The Aquaero is an absolutely amazing controller. I only ramp up the rpms when needed, based on component temp, water temp or temp deltas, which are all setup in the controller.
Also, like yourself, I really enjoy building things. It was a great learning experience but next time I will go air, if I ever even build another pc. I don't game anymore and portables, including smartphones can do most things nowdays.
John
@ eth0s ... I will agree with most of what you said and don't want to start an in-depth discussion of WC rigs, but I will say that the 17 Gentle Typhoon 1850's on my Aquaero is NO WHERE near as loud as what it took to air cool three GTX 470s. I would guess my average RPM for the fans is 800 to 900 and the rig is very close to dead silent. The Aquaero is an absolutely amazing controller. I only ramp up the rpms when needed, based on component temp, water temp or temp deltas, which are all setup in the controller.
Also, like yourself, I really enjoy building things. It was a great learning experience but next time I will go air, if I ever even build another pc. I don't game anymore and portables, including smartphones can do most things nowdays.
John
If I had a problem with noise, I'd just add some longer cables and stick it in another room :PObviously you have not experienced loud. I mean loud enough to wake up every person in a 6 unit apartment building. You literally could not sit at the pc and do anything.
If I had a problem with noise, I'd just add some longer cables and stick it in another room :PObviously you have not experienced loud. I mean loud enough to wake up every person in a 6 unit apartment building. You literally could not sit at the pc and do anything.
If I had a problem with noise, I'd just add some longer cables and stick it in another room :PObviously you have not experienced loud. I mean loud enough to wake up every person in a 6 unit apartment building. You literally could not sit at the pc and do anything.
LOL, that is exactly the fan I had, in addition to the 3 on card fans of the 470. It sounded like a freakin jet airplane and the middle card still ran hot. In less than a week I was planning the move to wc.If I had a problem with noise, I'd just add some longer cables and stick it in another room :PObviously you have not experienced loud. I mean loud enough to wake up every person in a 6 unit apartment building. You literally could not sit at the pc and do anything.
^ + 1. Yeah. You have no idea about loud.
If you want to learn about loud, put one of these Delta's in your case: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8147/fan-500/Delta_Mega_Fast_120mm_x_38mm_Fan_-_252_CFM_-_Bare_Lead_PFB1212UHE-F00.html?tl=g36c15s562&id=otNeECuk
You won't need two.
I overclocked my i5 2500k to 4.6 GHz and can passively cool it with a Hyper 212+. The only fans I need running in my computer are the built-in PSU and GPU ones. Idle, the CPU temperature is about 38C, and playing games it's around 83C.
As for danger with water cooling, it's there. Anybody with long-term water cooling experience, who is not a liar, can list the parts that have been ruined by leaks.
I USED TO HAVE A DELL PENTIUM 4 LAPTOP WHERE I'D PUT IT IN THE FREEZER TO KEEP IT FROM OVERHEATING.
I bet it was a Prescott core. lol
Any reviews on the new swiftech kits?
I have a H110 (dual 140mm) closed loop system on mine, and I'm pretty happy with it for what I use my computer for. I have the PWM Noctua fans turned all the way down, and it keeps things cool enough for me.MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/7f9byx5.jpg)
after reading eth0s' words, I dunno if I will try real water cooling now...I was under the assumption that water cooling had come a long way since the early days and that maintenance was very minimal and that risks were also minimal...seems not to be the case at all