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Title: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 5/5/2020 Kit changings, new renders, minor changings)
Post by: Scucka on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:04:14
ePBT Musician
(https://i.imgur.com/mmvkO4G.jpg)

Ladies and Gentlemen may I present to you ePBT Musician. This set is inspired by the magnificent musical instrument Piano. A hobby of mine which I practice 7 years. 1 Year ago I got into the keyboard community. Then my goal was to create a set by my favourite musical instrument piano. The sets aims to simplicity and minimalism using gmk colors. Yes I know it's a bow and wob set but with a little change to it


Please fill out this updated google form! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScnsREX3Kf4otZVa3kTjy6vgEndigA61nYSby0fQFFd-TJ_1Q/viewform?usp=sf_link

Kits


The Composer Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/XGMu1Qf.png)
The Maestro Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/Hs4V0DS.png)
The Quartet Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/s1jffx5.png)
The Capriccio Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/WIOeO1c.png)
The Espressivo Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/xuOkRbf.png)


Colors Used
(https://i.imgur.com/OvE8G83.jpg)


Renders
Colors may differ due to different lighting setups
Rama M60-A
(https://i.imgur.com/Y4ljN8H.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5T0v0N2.jpg)
Rama U80-A
(https://i.imgur.com/C4ASpzM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Hle5Y5f.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hJzERtD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5Vry9eJ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/bakvGtL.png)


This is how the Capriccio Kit looks like on the ortho and normal 60% layout. Should I let it be?
(https://i.imgur.com/9yeghKu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5Vry9eJ.png)


Pricing
expected to be 100~

Vendors
- KBDfans



Todo:
To finalize the kits
To do a collab
To make a deskmat

BIG SPECIAL THANKS TO:
- Swishy and all the designers discord

My discord: Scucka#3751

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UPDATE 4/9/2020:
 - Added another kit "The Addons Kit" becuase many people wanted a more piano look. (Basically black stripes)
 - Change Alt key to "Alto"
 - Minor changings
 - Added new renders


UPDATE 4/10/2020:
 - Changed the GMK manufacturer to ePBT
 - Minor changings
 - New vendor!

UPDATE 4/11/2020:
 - Added a few keys in the quartet kit
 - Added new novelties
 - New renders
 - Minor changings

UPDATE 4/19/2020
 - Added a new kit "The Espressivo Kit"
 - Fixed and added new renders
 - Minor changings

UPDATE 5/5/2020
 - Added some keys to "The Capriccio Kit"
 - Fixed and added new renders
 - Minor changings

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: -Jerry- on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:06:14
This looks exceedingly classy.

I don't know if it might resemble a piano a little bit more with the black and white alternating for the QWERTY row?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: quaddepos on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:09:43
Normally I'm not a big fan of rows being a different color but this does look classy!

I would only recommend looking into the GMK stock colors as they look quite close to WS2 and n9
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: nasp on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:10:21
I don't know if it quite resembles a piano either, but you could def. make it work on an ortho board with alternating black and white columns (wouldn't reach the end of the board of course).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: fakedSkill on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:12:50
Interesting concept, maybe you can actually render it on an ortho and have white, black, white, black, white, white, black, white etc  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: Abec13 on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:13:27
The face will not be producible by GMK in its current level of detail
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: Scucka on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:15:19
The face will not be producible by GMK in its current level of detail
I'll try to make it less detailed
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: Jampot_298 on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:16:15
This has potential, but please consider using gmk stock colours to keep costs low. Also please include UK iso if possible!!! Thanks

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: Pylon on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:17:55
Why custom colors instead of say, N9 and WS2?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: Scucka on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:22:20
Why custom colors instead of say, N9 and WS2?
I'm changing it right now just wait
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: pngu on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:24:08
bro your piano is wrong it needs to be striped left to right not top to bottom
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: SirShakes on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:41:57
Why not vertical stripes for a piano?

Stick to RAL if you are not using GMK colors btw
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: Scucka on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:43:13
Why not vertical stripes for a piano?

Stick to RAL if you are not using GMK colors btw
I tried this and it didn't looked that awesome
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: KuroTheCrazy on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:45:08
Shouldn't the top row of 40s mods be wob like the base kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: nasp on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:47:48
Shouldn't the top row of 40s mods be wob like the base kit?


At least r2 should be black like the base kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: pngu on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:49:46
Why not vertical stripes for a piano?

Stick to RAL if you are not using GMK colors btw
I tried this and it didn't looked that awesome

its a lot more awesomer imo

(https://i.imgur.com/64Dgtzs.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: SirShakes on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:55:26
Why not vertical stripes for a piano?

Stick to RAL if you are not using GMK colors btw
I tried this and it didn't looked that awesome

its a lot more awesomer imo

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/64Dgtzs.png)


Looks like a keyboard now imo
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: adxlk on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:57:24
Why not vertical stripes for a piano?

Stick to RAL if you are not using GMK colors btw
I tried this and it didn't looked that awesome

its a lot more awesomer imo

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/64Dgtzs.png)


Looks like a keyboard now imo

i only see a piano
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: Scucka on Wed, 08 April 2020, 15:02:29
Color fixed
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: mrkantz on Wed, 08 April 2020, 15:53:18
I like the way OP has it, the vertical stripes look so tacky
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: 2Moons on Wed, 08 April 2020, 18:55:45
I second the way OP has it vs zeebra stripes. If OP keeps it the way he has it now, I'm totally in.

I would love to see the novelties a bit smaller on the key. It seems they are pretty large.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: conternecticus on Wed, 08 April 2020, 19:18:57
So I saw an earlier post trying to mimic the piano look with the colorways... I wanna tried and see how it would look like, so I photoshopped the render a bit.

More
(https://i.imgur.com/F22UWAu.png)

I think the idea would work better on an ortho.

But how about a simplified view from the top of a grand piano? Like this:

More
(https://i.imgur.com/y7xqazN.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/3IpZdtx.png)

Or maybe an alternating 2 blacks - 3 blacks thing on the piano (I barely know where Do is so I'm not sure what those notes are called xd):

(https://i.imgur.com/tlGRwQZ.png)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: wil on Wed, 08 April 2020, 19:45:04
kinda cracks me up that another BoW set avoids doing text + icon mods. damn
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: 1391401 on Wed, 08 April 2020, 19:52:21
Render looks Grey and White - every piano I have ever played on had the sharp and flat keys in Piano Black.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: gnho on Wed, 08 April 2020, 21:55:53
Is it possible to have two colors on one cap?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: lenznel on Wed, 08 April 2020, 22:29:13
Have you ever considered this layout?
(https://imgur.com/rQlAn02)
Making the keyset fun practical at the same time! ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 08 April 2020, 22:56:20
GMK Clavier sounds classier to me, and is more descriptive.  Am musician.  Will buy
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: pengoot02 on Thu, 09 April 2020, 06:02:16
WS2 for white plz
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: Scucka on Thu, 09 April 2020, 07:26:40
WS2 for white plz
why ws2?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 09 April 2020, 08:51:48
WS2 for white plz
why ws2?

Yeah, aren't piano keys a warm off-white color like WS1 or CP? I think they were traditionally made from ivory, which isn't pure white.

I guess you could get a GMK color ring just to confirm that WS1 is the best match.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: Jaltr on Thu, 09 April 2020, 09:00:03
Yeah they're made out of ivory originally and have a warm tone.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: Emir on Thu, 09 April 2020, 09:49:14
Anyone with minimal and wob with my icon mod kit that wants to take a real life photo of how this would look like? :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: Scucka on Thu, 09 April 2020, 10:47:26
Anyone with minimal and wob with my icon mod kit that wants to take a real life photo of how this would look like? :D
oh hey! didn't expected you here
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 4/11/2020)
Post by: ecbob on Sun, 12 April 2020, 12:54:15
Are you planning for epbt pbt or epbt abs?
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 4/11/2020)
Post by: Scucka on Sun, 12 April 2020, 14:27:01
Are you planning for epbt pbt or epbt abs?
pbt
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 4/11/2020)
Post by: gnho on Mon, 13 April 2020, 00:52:02
I feel my comment was ignored. If reverse dye-sub is possible, I feel it's also possible to partially dye a cap and make the set actually piano like, no?
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 4/11/2020)
Post by: i luv chuletas on Mon, 13 April 2020, 06:19:44
Super interested in this!

As an aside, epbt cool kids ran into the issue that ePBT does not offer r2/r3 1.25 molds, but I see it in your 40's kit?  :confused:
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 4/11/2020)
Post by: Scucka on Mon, 13 April 2020, 08:23:31
Super interested in this!

As an aside, epbt cool kids ran into the issue that ePBT does not offer r2/r3 1.25 molds, but I see it in your 40's kit?  :confused:
I asked kbd about this and they said epbt has 1.25 mold
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 4/11/2020)
Post by: rockydbull on Mon, 13 April 2020, 09:27:02
Super interested in this!

As an aside, epbt cool kids ran into the issue that ePBT does not offer r2/r3 1.25 molds, but I see it in your 40's kit?  :confused:
I asked kbd about this and they said epbt has 1.25 mold

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105617.msg2887178#msg2887178

seems like there is conflicting info going out.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 4/11/2020)
Post by: Scucka on Thu, 23 April 2020, 03:38:37
Super interested in this!

As an aside, epbt cool kids ran into the issue that ePBT does not offer r2/r3 1.25 molds, but I see it in your 40's kit?  :confused:
I asked kbd about this and they said epbt has 1.25 mold

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105617.msg2887178#msg2887178

seems like there is conflicting info going out.
Fixed
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 4/19/2020 New kit, new renders, minor changings)
Post by: kbye on Thu, 23 April 2020, 21:28:48
This will run into the same problem as Kuro/Shiro, no? If I recall, the reverse dye-sub was difficult for them to get right hence why R2 does not have many black keys.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 5/5/2020 Kit changings, new renders, minor changings)
Post by: Scucka on Tue, 05 May 2020, 10:22:24
Hey everyone! There weren't updates due to missing time. This time I bringed a minor update adding some keys to "The Capriccio Kit", the renders were fixed and added new ones. Rest are very minor changins. Please fill the google form! I would be proud to get some feedback on adding something that you would want.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 5/5/2020 Kit changings, new renders, minor changings)
Post by: Scucka on Tue, 05 May 2020, 10:26:28
Hey everyone! There weren't updates due to missing time. This time I bringed a minor update adding some keys to "The Capriccio Kit", the renders were fixed and added new ones. Rest are very minor changings. Please fill the google form! I would be proud to get some feedback on adding something that you would want.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 5/5/2020 Kit changings, new renders, minor changings)
Post by: scoopbb on Tue, 05 May 2020, 11:06:15
can you put row values in the quartet kit. thoroughly confused by the kiting. the " is redundant, there is no white row2 escape or tab (but your planck render has one, also that render has a white r2 tab thats not anywhere in your kits)
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 5/5/2020 Kit changings, new renders, minor changings)
Post by: Scucka on Tue, 05 May 2020, 11:49:30
can you put row values in the quartet kit. thoroughly confused by the kiting. the " is redundant, there is no white row2 escape or tab (but your planck render has one, also that render has a white r2 tab thats not anywhere in your kits)
fixed
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 5/5/2020 Kit changings, new renders, minor changings)
Post by: rozc on Sun, 24 May 2020, 10:30:08
amazing set!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200524/f4df08de1061376873ff767b137bdf9f.jpg)

and add these key on r1 and consider them as arrow keys will be really nice i think :)
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 5/5/2020 Kit changings, new renders, minor changings)
Post by: amperrsand on Mon, 25 May 2020, 21:48:23
I've seen this pop up before, but I think for some reason my eyes glanced over the fact you're going with ePBT. Kinda interested now that I've read the title correctly lol
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 5/5/2020 Kit changings, new renders, minor changings)
Post by: low_key_keyboards on Mon, 25 May 2020, 23:14:12
This is super classy and nice!
Might be my new favourite set.

Please stick with PBT. I really prefer it over GMK.

 :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 5/5/2020 Kit changings, new renders, minor changings)
Post by: BapoDonu on Mon, 08 June 2020, 09:29:38
Any updates?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Musician
Post by: Mistah on Sun, 21 June 2020, 21:48:36
Why not vertical stripes for a piano?

Stick to RAL if you are not using GMK colors btw
I tried this and it didn't looked that awesome

its a lot more awesomer imo

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/64Dgtzs.png)


I love the stripes in the Capriccio kit, however I think that it should keep the pattern from the above comment. The even stripes throughout doesn't look very piano-y. I think starting on the C note (having QA in black) is a good idea, but in that case, the Y, I, and P rows should be black instead of the T, U, and O rows. Pretty awesome that a full octave fits on an ortho, but keeping the keys as they are would keep the B note omitted (as the backspace row would act as a B Flat).

Alternatively, you could just include the entire R2/R3 rows and let people customize it as they wish (not sure how much that would drive up the overall cost). With QMK supporting MIDI, I think this could be a really cool thing to have if the colors properly correspond with notes.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 5/5/2020 Kit changings, new renders, minor changings)
Post by: OxC0FFEE on Mon, 22 June 2020, 11:57:24
This is a great idea, and I have done something similar on my preonic:
[attachimg=1]

Can you make a kit with the proper number of white and black keys per octave like above? As someone above noted, when w/b alternate every other column, sharps/flats end up in the wrong place but if you have two white columns part way through then it's correct piano spacing. If so then MIDI enabled ortho keebs would have sharps and flats where they belong. If so I'd buy in a heartbeat because I'd prefer sculpted to flat keys like I have on mine now.

One easy way to solve this would be to make a full set of keys in black AND white and let people mix and match as they see fit. Might reduce the price and help MOQ too.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Musician (UPDATE 5/5/2020 Kit changings, new renders, minor changings)
Post by: TameFlame on Mon, 22 June 2020, 17:59:05
Beautiful concept - I support it.