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Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Fri, 30 March 2012, 13:43:34
Update:

Just got the firm quote back from the place that does finishing and anodizing and I've uploaded it here so you can see for yourself:

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I should be able to take about $4 off the total of whatever you choose (as I mentioned before, this would make brushing for the case free and polishing only a bit more) because we don't have to pay for glass beading anymore but I'm still waiting to get a re-quote from the metal working shop. So as I was saying before, you probably only need to get the case done but if you want to do the insert as well you are welcome to.

For those people who don't want it blue, they do clear anodizing which keeps the natural color of the aluminum. You need to do this because the anodizing process protects the aluminum from scratches and things like that. If you /really/ can't afford the few extra dollars, I'll try to pay it myself because I understand it wasn't an advertised cost.

Here's the new spreadsheet which is a bit more clear: Anodizing and Finishing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai3njS0ds_RVdEtjdlh6enpuV0NBaWFkalFuR3dSUXc)
I'll PM everybody in a bit so they're aware of it.

The old one is still available for reference if you want to refer back to it.

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This is concerning anodizing of the aluminum poker cases found in this thread: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?28730-Taking-payments-Aluminum-poker-case

I will PM everybody who placed an order to bring their attention here. If you don't want it anodized at all you don't have to post anything.

The colors available are red, blue and gold. The colors may be a bit darker than what is shown here since our aluminum is apparently a bit darker (5052 aluminum instead of 6xxx as shown in the pictures). It may be a bit closer to the big metal plate.

There is a minimum order quantity of about $90 per color.

It costs about $4 to color the case and about $3 to color the metal insert. You don't have to get both colored and I would suggest just doing the case since you can't even see the metal insert!

Since there were only 24 orders, if everyone went with the same color it would meet the minimum order quantity and the prices listed above would be good. If we go with two colors we have to pay $180 so the price would go up (about $7.5 if everyone chose to anodize just their case). Keep in mind though that if not everyone chooses to anodize this won't be the case! For example if we get 10 for red and 10 for blue then 180/20 = $9 per person.

What you should do:

[strike]Fill in this Google spreadsheet saying what colors you want for anodizing, if any:[/strike]
This is old but you can still look at it for reference. The new one is near the top.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai3njS0ds_RVdFpxaXJodlZEU1pYTVl4VkJuOTdDelE

If you have any special instructions, like not gluing the two pieces together, please write them in there too.

You do not need to PM and I will not ask you to paypal me the money for this right now, I'll just add it on to the cost of shipping when it's time to send these out. I'm pretty sure that the two colors we'll be going with are red and blue as I doubt that too many people would be interested in gold and it wouldn't be worth the increase in price to have just a few orders of gold. If there's not enough interest in red it may be dropped as well.

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Just to mention it, instead of brushed aluminum, polished is another option but it costs $8 to polish the case ($4 more than brushed, which is included for free).

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Since some people are kind of borderline on the price going up anymore I didn't want to mention it too much because everyone has to kind of go with the same thing I /think/. If I can do a mix of polished and brushed and you would prefer polished and are willing to pay the extra $4 for it, mention you would like polished in the special instructions column of the spreadsheet and I'll see, but for now assume brushed.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: boost on Fri, 30 March 2012, 13:45:10
The colors look good, but ill pass on the coloring.


Sent from a phone...
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 30 March 2012, 13:48:26
insert and frame both in blue

TEAM BLUE
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 30 March 2012, 13:52:07
btw, do they consider this an anodize or hard anodize?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: emptythecache on Fri, 30 March 2012, 13:56:24
How visible will the welds on the case be with anodizing? I am also with mkawa, team blue. Both case and insert.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Fri, 30 March 2012, 13:56:55
Quote from: mkawa;561723
btw, do they consider this an anodize or hard anodize?

I don't quite know the difference. D:

He said it gave it a very resistant kind of finish though. I could ask if you tell me exactly what to ask.

Quote from: emptythecache;561726
How visible will the welds on the case be with anodizing? I am also with mkawa, team blue. Both case and insert.

They will be visible, how different it'll look I'm not sure but there won't be anything we can do to avoid that.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 30 March 2012, 13:58:09
nah, it's good. if he didn't ask you it'll probably be whatever their best finish is. ALL GOOD BRO
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Fri, 30 March 2012, 14:01:07
Quote from: mkawa;561728
nah, it's good. if he didn't ask you it'll probably be whatever their best finish is. ALL GOOD BRO

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Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: emptythecache on Fri, 30 March 2012, 14:02:43
if the brushed blue looks anything like the last picture in the OP, I will be super stoked.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: demik on Fri, 30 March 2012, 14:03:31
I WANT PINK!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Fri, 30 March 2012, 14:13:35
Actually, to make things easier, could everyone use this Google spreadsheet? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai3njS0ds_RVdFpxaXJodlZEU1pYTVl4VkJuOTdDelE
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Kisakuku on Fri, 30 March 2012, 14:15:30
Quote from: demik;561736
I WANT PINK!

Tsangan, why did you hack Demik's account?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: demik on Fri, 30 March 2012, 14:16:30
Quote from: Kisakuku;561753
Tsangan, why did you hack Demik's account?

all your base are belong to us
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: ekw808 on Fri, 30 March 2012, 14:22:51
Need to be added!
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Post by: J-P on Fri, 30 March 2012, 14:34:17
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Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Ovoxo on Fri, 30 March 2012, 15:13:40
I am down for either blue or red. Whatever has the most votes.
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Post by: Elrobo on Fri, 30 March 2012, 16:23:03
Put in my want for full blue. Also wow those examples look very nice, super stoked to see the end result.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: xbb on Fri, 30 March 2012, 16:25:09
will the color scratch off?
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Post by: mkawa on Fri, 30 March 2012, 16:29:51
no it should be pretty durable. the anodizing process forms a hard layer on the surface of the aluminum.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: metafour on Fri, 30 March 2012, 16:53:34
Just to be clear, every case is going to get the brushed finish regardless of anodizing? So they will all be produced at the one shop and then all of them will be dropped off at the other shop for the brushed finish with some also being anodized?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Fri, 30 March 2012, 16:58:18
Yea, they'll all be brushed by the place that does anodizing instead of being glass beaded by the place that makes the cases. This is because the brushed look is probably nicer and it works much better with anodizing if you decide to have anodizing done. You won't have to pay for brushing since the cost of doing so is payed for by the glass beading that got replaced.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: metafour on Fri, 30 March 2012, 17:00:54
Cool. I added my info to the spreadsheet. Thanks for doing this!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Reptile on Fri, 30 March 2012, 17:09:30
Do you by chance know what they would charge for 1?

Just trying to get a general idea of how much I would be looking at if I got it done locally in a different color.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: metafour on Fri, 30 March 2012, 17:13:05
Quote from: Reptile;561885
Do you by chance know what they would charge for 1?

Just trying to get a general idea of how much I would be looking at if I got it done locally in a different color.

Didn't he say there was a minimum charge of $90? E.g. if you only want 1 from them it'll be $90. Another shop could charge more or less though.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Reptile on Fri, 30 March 2012, 17:31:09
Quote from: metafour;561891
Didn't he say there was a minimum charge of $90? E.g. if you only want 1 from them it'll be $90. Another shop could charge more or less though.

Damn I need to get a quote from the shop here then
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 30 March 2012, 17:38:29
90$ is consistent with the quotes i got.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: ekw808 on Fri, 30 March 2012, 17:42:56
There are some dings on those pieces of metal in the pictures would that easily happen to the cases??
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 30 March 2012, 17:50:16
aluminum without anodizing or coating is pretty soft, and does scratch pretty easily. the anodized units will have a much more durable surface.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: jonnybastard on Fri, 30 March 2012, 23:36:08
Info added, looks like blue's a clear favorite.  Also fkn lol at the t-rex..
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Sat, 31 March 2012, 00:11:39
Yea, at this point it looks like we'll probably go with just blue, which will keep the cost low. There's a couple people going for uncolored as well as myself which makes a fine second option with the nice silvery look.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Autolyze on Sat, 31 March 2012, 00:20:21
Is there any particular reason why people are requesting no glue?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Sat, 31 March 2012, 00:34:33
Quote from: Autolyze;562255
Is there any particular reason why people are requesting no glue?

No idea, but it makes life easier for me! I think people just want to use their own brand of glue or trust themselves to do a better gluing job than me. I've never done this before but I don't imagine there's much to it.

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Just to mention it, instead of brushed aluminum, polished is another option but it costs $8 to polish the case ($4 more than brushed).

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Since some people are kind of borderline on the price going up anymore I didn't want to mention it too much because everyone has to kind of go with the same thing I /think/. If I can do a mix of polished and brushed and you would prefer polished and are willing to pay the extra $4 for it, mention it in the special instructions column of the spreadsheet and I'll see, but for now assume brushed.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 31 March 2012, 00:48:06
oh my god the polished finish looks effing amazing christ
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: net2522 on Sat, 31 March 2012, 00:52:19
Please, dont put it to much option. I'll broke till next years!!!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Sat, 31 March 2012, 00:54:29
Yea, it looks pretty awesome. It's a shame I didn't have a fully finished example to show off from the start, I'm sure I'd have a lot more buyers which would have brought the prices lower. Right now I'm crossing my fingers now that the quoted price for the case doesn't go up too much since we only ended up having 26 orders. I've got enough padding in the original $80 charged to accommodate some change though, I just won't be able to get my own case for free probably, but that's fine by me.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 31 March 2012, 00:54:42
if we get the polishing, i will buy a second.

seriously, these are going to look amazing. it's too bad there's no chance at a second run because, ironically, once people see how good these end up looking, everyone's going to want one...
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Sat, 31 March 2012, 01:01:40
If there are seriously enough numbers for a second run, I'll see what I can do but the price would probably be a fair amount higher since they are doing it special for me this time. I think that we're getting close to the saturation point and there aren't enough people with Pokers left who would want one though.

I'll email the place that does the coloring to see if I can do a mix of polished and brushed and let you know when they get back to me, which won't be until Monday I assume.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: seferphier on Sat, 31 March 2012, 01:54:05
team blue!

these are going to look fantastic with polished blue. hopefully the polish would cover up some of the defects of the poker case (if any)
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 31 March 2012, 01:56:26
well there are at least 20 more out there (ie, there were that many units in the IC). oh well, onward and upward.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: net2522 on Sat, 31 March 2012, 02:24:50
Is it possible to put in copper pillar (really short one) instead of glue & soldering. If I plan to take it off in the future?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: 500_pts on Sat, 31 March 2012, 05:21:10
super on the fence about your case, i really want to get it, but i would love to see just one picture of a final product annodized :D

i would love you forever and buy a case if you could possibly post a pic by the time you close your orders :P
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: emptythecache on Sat, 31 March 2012, 06:21:29
Quote from: 500_pts;562417
super on the fence about your case, i really want to get it, but i would love to see just one picture of a final product annodized :D

i would love you forever and buy a case if you could possibly post a pic by the time you close your orders :P

not gonna happen. He's got to give a final number to the shop before they make any.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: emptythecache on Sat, 31 March 2012, 06:22:26
Also, I'm all for polished blue. I just hope the weld marks are more visible on the polished than brushed finish.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: metafour on Sat, 31 March 2012, 06:49:38
I've changed my mind.

I'm in for polishing and blue anodizing on my case. I'll update the spreadsheet later today to formalize my support.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 31 March 2012, 09:51:16
Quote from: 500_pts;562417
super on the fence about your case, i really want to get it, but i would love to see just one picture of a final product annodized :D

i would love you forever and buy a case if you could possibly post a pic by the time you close your orders :P
they're going to look awesome. get one!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Kisakuku on Sat, 31 March 2012, 10:14:35
Hmm, I'm assuming the polished finish would get scratched way too easily without anodizing/dyeing?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 31 March 2012, 10:17:13
probably. aluminum in general scratches easily without anodization
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: jonnybastard on Sat, 31 March 2012, 10:18:05
So awesome that I'm tempted to get a 2nd case... hmmm I'll sleep on it.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: xbb on Sat, 31 March 2012, 10:25:59
add polished blue for me also please
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Sat, 31 March 2012, 10:50:48
Quote from: xbb;562528
add polished blue for me also please

You can enter anything you want here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai3njS0ds_RVdFpxaXJodlZEU1pYTVl4VkJuOTdDelE#gid=0
For now I added you as blue polish for case only, if you also want the metal insert you'll have to add that on yourself as I can't read your mind. :)

Also just a heads up, for those who want the metal insert anodized I don't think that it will be finished (brushed or polished). The finishing cost I got was just for the case since the metal insert should be smooth as it doesn't undergo any harsh treatment like the case has to go through and so it shouldn't need finishing to hide any marks (and it's not visible anyways). If people are /really/ interested in also having the metal insert finished I'll ask about that and see if I can absorb the cost into what was already paid.

So much to do! Busy busy busy!
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Post by: xbb on Sat, 31 March 2012, 11:10:32
Thanks, as you said the metal insert will not be visible from the outside so should be fine :)
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Post by: mkawa on Sat, 31 March 2012, 11:18:24
added another case for me on the spreadsheet
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: 500_pts on Sat, 31 March 2012, 12:47:48
Quote from: mkawa;562497
they're going to look awesome. get one!


this is why im so on the fence.

i either get this now, or wait for the mythical round 2 imsto cases
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 31 March 2012, 12:51:45
you can get another of these now or you can wait forever for something that may or may not ever happen. ever.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Sat, 31 March 2012, 13:25:33
Quote from: 500_pts;562651
this is why im so on the fence.

i either get this now, or wait for the mythical round 2 imsto cases

I'd say go with your gut and pass on this. These aren't machine perfect and that just doesn't suit some people's tastes. I'm not making money off of these so it's not worth me dealing with the risk of an unhappy customer. :)
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Post by: tsangan on Sat, 31 March 2012, 13:56:31
No one picked gold? :|
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Post by: Ovoxo on Sat, 31 March 2012, 16:39:04
polished blue looks amazing...wonder how polished red would look
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Sat, 31 March 2012, 16:52:55
Quote from: Ovoxo;562779
polished blue looks amazing...wonder how polished red would look

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They do coloring in 3 different ways which I think were liquid (?), powdercoating and anodizing. I can't remember if these were anodized or done using some other process (probably the liquid whatever way), but this might give you a hint at what polished red would look like. I'm guessing that these are not anodized because that would probably be the gunmetal that people were interested in on the left but he told me that for anodizing they only have red, blue and gold. The other ways of getting them colored costs like three times as much and the powdercoating looked pretty bad, like the kind of cheap paint job you would see on a child's toy that you can really tell is a separate layer on top of the metal, at least in my opinion.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Elrobo on Sat, 31 March 2012, 18:00:33
Well bumped mine up to polished as well, that looks ridiculously slick.
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Post by: Kisakuku on Sat, 31 March 2012, 18:04:03
Polished red looks a lot better than brushed red, if that's indeed how anodized polished red would look like...
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Sat, 31 March 2012, 18:14:55
Quote from: Kisakuku;562836
Polished red looks a lot better than brushed red, if that's indeed how anodized polished red would look like...

I sent another email to ask if that's polished and anodized red. I also asked if that gunmetal color is available just in case I misunderstood or maybe they just didn't mention it because they are out of stock.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Kisakuku on Sat, 31 March 2012, 18:16:25
Quote from: oneproduct;562843
I sent another email to ask if that's polished and anodized red. I also asked if that gunmetal color is available just in case I misunderstood or maybe they just didn't mention it because they are out of stock.

Thanks, you are doing great work on this project, people better appreciate it.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 31 March 2012, 22:59:42
Quote from: Kisakuku;562844
Thanks, you are doing great work on this project, people better appreciate it.
OR ELSE
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Reptile on Sat, 31 March 2012, 23:17:49
Quote from: tsangan;562684
No one picked gold? :|

I think I want gold :thumbup:

Sent from my mobile
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 01 April 2012, 09:29:06
Good choice, these people are crazy for not wanting gold
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Sun, 01 April 2012, 09:55:12
There's still probably a bit more or less than a week before I have to worry about finalizing orders for coloring, but just to make it clear, if you don't mark that you want the insert to be finished, it won't be. If you don't mark that you want the insert to be colored, it won't be. If you don't mark that you want polishing, it will be brushed. If you say don't mentioning anything about gluing, I'll assume you want me to glue it for you.

I'll post updates as it gets closer to the time I need to place the coloring order and I'll PM everyone to give them one last chance to look over things.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 01 April 2012, 15:06:09
I want to strip the anodize on my imsto poker case and make it gold!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: dippingriz on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:12:23
Damn it, put me in for one more.  Payment sent.
That's 3.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:41:20
After I visit the coloring place tomorrow to ask a few more questions I'm going to remake the spreadsheet. Right now it's a bit hard to tell what some people want and I don't want to make any mistakes.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:43:30
Quote from: dippingriz;564059
Damn it, put me in for one more.  Payment sent.
That's 3.
thumbs up!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: net2522 on Mon, 02 April 2012, 03:36:53
Payment Sent!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 04 April 2012, 12:35:56
Just got the firm quote back from the place that does finishing and anodizing and I've uploaded it here so you can see for yourself. It's about $3 more than the rough estimate he gave me when I first visited.

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I should be able to take about $4 off the total of whatever you choose (as I mentioned before, this will make brushing free and polishing a bit more, $3 more for the insert, $4 more for the case) because we don't have to pay for glass beading anymore but I'm still waiting to get a re-quote from the metal working shop. So as I was saying before, you probably only need to get the case done but if you want to do the insert as well you are welcome to.

For those people who don't want it blue, they do clear anodizing which keeps the natural color of the aluminum. You need to do this because the anodizing process protects the aluminum from scratches and things like that. If you /really/ can't afford the few extra dollars, I'll try to pay it myself because I understand it wasn't an advertised cost (though it's only $6 more).

I'll put up a new spreadsheet later today that's a bit more clear for me to read and you'll have to fill that out again to make sure I order the right thing for you.

Also, there's a minimum paint charge for the clear anodizing but I do really want to leave this option in there since obviously it's not fair to force you to have it blue if you don't like blue. Since I'm pretty sure we're under that minimum for clear, I'll try to cover some of it using the money I had set aside for extra stuff like screws, insulation and glue. I got the screws cheaper than I expected and most people are telling me they don't want theirs glued so I have some extra there. I am a bit worried that the quote for the case itself will go up a bit since we were under our target amount so I'll let you know for sure once I get the re-quote from them.

They don't have that gunmetal color for anodizing, those fancy looking plates were done using another method that is far more expensive.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: net2522 on Wed, 04 April 2012, 13:17:08
oneproduct, can they do matte finishing?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 04 April 2012, 13:25:22
@net2522
I didn't see any examples of it in their showroom, so I don't think so.

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Made the new spreadsheet: Anodizing and Finishing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai3njS0ds_RVdEtjdlh6enpuV0NBaWFkalFuR3dSUXc)
Will PM everybody so they're aware of it in a bit.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: net2522 on Wed, 04 April 2012, 13:36:45
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The first picture is the brush + clear?
and polish + clear on the second? correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 04 April 2012, 13:37:27
let's put up the spreadsheet and organize ourselves before you put effort into trying to allocate slush fund cash oneproduct. given the new options, i'll probably do one polished blue and one brushed clear, so that should get us a little way towards making the minimum order for clear for those who want it.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 04 April 2012, 13:39:34
Those are both brush and blue.
Clear is the one that has the natural color of the metal (silver color).
Polished is the funny shaped blue thing near the bottom for the first post. It will be very smooth and shiny.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 04 April 2012, 13:42:21
i likes the shine
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Reptile on Wed, 04 April 2012, 14:04:13
Can someone explain the glue again to me? Just want to get this right...
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Kisakuku on Wed, 04 April 2012, 14:09:22
Quote from: mkawa;566760
given the new options, i'll probably do one polished blue and one brushed clear

Copycat!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 04 April 2012, 15:14:01
Quote from: Reptile;566785
Can someone explain the glue again to me? Just want to get this right...

The two pieces will need to be attached to each other. Since I have to get anodizing done I can't weld them together because they can't work on them when they are attached already. So instead they will be glued together afterwards. I know that gluing sounds a lot less awesome than welding, but we're talking about crazy glue/industrial strength glues that are purposely made for gluing together metals so it should be really good. Some people want to do extra work on their pieces, some people want to use their own brand of glue, but some people just want me to do it for them, which is fine. So if you aren't planning to do anything special, you should pick yes for gluing.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 04 April 2012, 15:40:19
Is the brushed blue going to similar to the last brushed blue picture?
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Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 04 April 2012, 15:51:15
It will probably be somewhere between the light blue circular thing and the dark blue sheet. He can sort of control it by choosing how long to leave the pieces submerged. I was thinking to try to get it towards the lighter side but it might be good for people to put out their opinions if they want it on the lighter or darker side.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 04 April 2012, 16:42:50
Can I get it in that exact blue?
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Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 04 April 2012, 17:01:01
For the most part I'd just like to have them all done the same. I don't really want to complicate things too much by going to them and saying "can you do 5 in light blue, 3 in dark blue, 8 in navy blue, 4 in sky blue..." etc.

I'm not sure exactly how much control they have over it either. It has to be in there for a minimum amount of time for the anodizing to be done properly and then they can make it a bit darker by leaving it in there for longer I believe but at some point I imagine that it won't get any darker than it is once it reaches a sort of saturation point. So there's a limit for how light and how dark it can get, but I'm not sure exactly what that is for our 5052 aluminum since all the aluminum in the showroom is 6xxx aluminum.

But on that note, I do need to know if you guys would prefer if we try for lighter or darker, so feel free to throw in your opinion.
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Post by: net2522 on Wed, 04 April 2012, 17:16:12
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How about this blue?    :D
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Post by: emptythecache on Wed, 04 April 2012, 17:24:54
I prefer darker blue, but it doesn't super matter.
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Post by: mkawa on Wed, 04 April 2012, 17:28:09
i just want a thick coating and something that looks nice. i trust the anodizing guys on specifics.
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Post by: ekw808 on Wed, 04 April 2012, 17:34:22
I'd like somethIng that can be easily matched to upcoming sets I.e retro and that blue cream cheese set and maybe upcoming skulls hopefully.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Autolyze on Wed, 04 April 2012, 19:36:33
Oh man... All the options look great. I think I might have to switch back to clear, since after some thought I now feel like the red PCB and my current black/white + red esc key setup could look a little odd with blue.

Anyone have thoughts on polished + clear vs brushed + clear?
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Post by: jonnybastard on Wed, 04 April 2012, 19:51:38
A nice bright blue would be my preference but I'm sure whatever they do will end up looking great.
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Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 04 April 2012, 19:58:16
Quote from: Autolyze;567083
Anyone have thoughts on polished + clear vs brushed + clear?

Here's just some random pictures I took off a Google image search:

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Brushed has a more even, work ready look while polished has a shiny, show-off look.
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Post by: Autolyze on Wed, 04 April 2012, 20:47:58
This is making me wish I got two cases, despite only having one Poker. I think I'm currently leaning towards the brushed option, but I really like them both.
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Post by: seferphier on Thu, 05 April 2012, 00:09:21
sweet. Thanks oneproduct for doing this again!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Fri, 06 April 2012, 12:38:12
Okay, well I'm sure that everyone by now has seen that imsto has started an interest check for his a second round of poker cases and now treble318 has something starting up in the classifieds http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?29827-Custom-KBC-Poker-Aluminum-Tray-amp-More-%29

I don't know why these two both decided to pop up at the same time as each other (and thus have to compete against each other) and why they decided to do so while I was already in the process of doing this. I understand that some people are probably having second thoughts about having ordered one from me now, so I'll go ahead and be the one to talk about the elephant in the room.

First I'd just like to point at the differences between the case I'm making and the ones they are making.

1. Both imsto's and treble318's cases are more expensive. With polishing and blue anodizing mine comes out to about $95, treble's is $100 + cost of coloring, and imsto said that his would be more expensive than last round, which was $140 I think.

2. Both of theirs use the same mounting system, which is to have the PCB lie on several cylinders which accept screws rather than supporting the whole PCB as the metal insert for this one does which was to help with the PCB flexing problem the original case has. However, as there will have to be a layer of insulation between the metal insert and the PCB, there may be some "flex" due to compression of the insulating material, I'll have to try this out once I get some better insulation instead of what I was using so far. The insert also makes it considerably heavier for those who like that.

3. There's no dip switch cut out for this case, which I treat as a plus, because really you won't be changing your dip switches more than once or twice probably and so it's nice to have a smooth bottom for the case.

4. Mine has no feet. Imsto wins flat out here with his machined ones. treble318 has some rubber ones which he just sticks on, which could be mimicked for my cases but you'd have to do it on your own.

5. Both of theirs are machined, and as such are more perfect looking. You've seen the videos I've posted and you can tell that the corners were welded on mine, which may or may not bother you.

So anyways, with that being said, if everyone would really want to opt out and go with one of theirs, I can try to see if I can stop the order. I'm not sure how far they've gotten into it yet, if at all, and it may be possible that I wouldn't be able to refund the whole amount if they were in the middle of things (in particular, they probably already ordered the aluminum they need to work on, but they might not have gotten it yet to start making the cases). This would have to be an all or nothing thing though, I can't really have half the people opt out since then the prices would no longer be good in a group buy sense.

Anyways, let me know what you guys think. Kind of sucks that this happened so late in the process... -_-

It also kind of sucks that they both have a more finished product they can show off while I only have that first prototype, because once my case is polished and anodized it will probably look much more comparable to theirs but right now that glass beaded outside pales in comparison.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Reptile on Fri, 06 April 2012, 13:23:43
Well I guess I be first to say I would like a refund. Nothing against your work but when I originally paid I asked imsto a time frame and he was thinking many months. Now obviously this isn't the case :doh:
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Post by: seferphier on Fri, 06 April 2012, 13:27:14
ahhh.. i'm undecided.

on one hand, i'm committed to this project. on the other, i love the perfection of CNC. the price difference between treble and you case isn't too significant.

i'm leaning towards pulling out..
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Post by: boost on Fri, 06 April 2012, 13:28:49
-_-
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Post by: oneproduct on Fri, 06 April 2012, 13:33:47
Quote from: Reptile;569039
Well I guess I be first to say I would like a refund. Nothing against your work but when I originally paid I asked imsto a time frame and he was thinking many months. Now obviously this isn't the case :doh:

No worries, I won't take any of this personally and I wasn't in it to make money so I won't really lose anything except time. It's good for people to be honest.

I'll talk to them on Monday to see how far they've gone along and if possible I'll get them to cancel it if that's what people are looking for. If we do cancel, we'll still have to pay for prototyping costs, the cost of materials (if they ordered them) and then time spent with the people I was in contact with (e.g. my point of contact who worked with me on the blueprint and such), but we'd save all the labor, which is the primary cost. Might be a bit awkward to tell them this but I'll do what I have to.
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Post by: mkawa on Fri, 06 April 2012, 13:37:41
those are both looking about 2-3 months out. we've already contracted the shop. oneproduct: you are completely in the right to finish the order.
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Post by: Reptile on Fri, 06 April 2012, 13:41:24
Quote from: mkawa;569061
those are both looking about 2-3 months out. we've already contracted the shop. oneproduct: you are completely in the right to finish the order.

imsto told me a few weeks...
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: seferphier on Fri, 06 April 2012, 13:51:13
well, maybe let's just halt the order to see what other people's opinion and the cost of pulling out...
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Blackhawk19 on Fri, 06 April 2012, 13:54:41
I think we should finish the order.  I'd prefer to have a more perfect case, but as mkawa said, we've already contracted the shop.  This of course depends on the amount of money we would receive back (original price - prototyping cost and all), and how much you value your time and doing 90% of the work and coordination to get to this point.

While imsto and treble are seemingly reputable, I think it's rather ridiculous that neither of them spoke up at any point in time to say that they had possible orders coming up.  I mean, this whole process has been going on for approximately 2 months and they both appear to be active enough that they should have seen it...

It seems rather common sense and decency to at least say something and save you a lot of development time for something they already clearly had completed...
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Post by: mkawa on Fri, 06 April 2012, 14:04:21
Quote from: Reptile;569065
imsto told me a few weeks...
so a month until he starts taking orders, another month of production, debugging, working out orders, and a couple weeks to distribute. hence, 2-3 months. recall when this buy started, and check the date. it takes time to make things.

i'm not saying i won't be buying one of each of their cases, but i don't expect product from them for a while since they're both still in IC mode.

but you might say "oh, why does it take time to do all of this stuff?", well, read the threads for this buy. people waffle, ask for weird stuff, no one can decide on anything. it's a miracle we've made it this far, and at this point if we stay the course we will have product in hand in weeks. so i say let's do that. oneproduct can inquire on status and see if the order can still be changed slightly, but it's one thing to inquire and another thing to pull out completely. hint: the latter will make it difficult for him to deal with them ever again.

anyway, i want my darned polished blue case.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: ekw808 on Fri, 06 April 2012, 14:30:25
lets keep this going, ill use the other threads to try to get one for my race
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Post by: WRXChris on Fri, 06 April 2012, 14:41:17
i agree with everything mkawa said.  I want my polished blue oneproduct case!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: emptythecache on Fri, 06 April 2012, 14:57:41
Quote from: mkawa;569101
so a month until he starts taking orders, another month of production, debugging, working out orders, and a couple weeks to distribute. hence, 2-3 months. recall when this buy started, and check the date. it takes time to make things.

i'm not saying i won't be buying one of each of their cases, but i don't expect product from them for a while since they're both still in IC mode.

but you might say "oh, why does it take time to do all of this stuff?", well, read the threads for this buy. people waffle, ask for weird stuff, no one can decide on anything. it's a miracle we've made it this far, and at this point if we stay the course we will have product in hand in weeks. so i say let's do that. oneproduct can inquire on status and see if the order can still be changed slightly, but it's one thing to inquire and another thing to pull out completely. hint: the latter will make it difficult for him to deal with them ever again.

anyway, i want my darned polished blue case.


You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. I'm 100% still in for this buy. I want my polished blue case too.
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Post by: Autolyze on Fri, 06 April 2012, 14:59:48
I also want to stick with this. I might end up getting one of the imsto ones too, but surely I'm not the only one who likes the human element in the cases here.
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Post by: oneproduct on Fri, 06 April 2012, 15:05:13
The shop is closed for Easter, but I contacted my friend whose dad owns the shop. I asked him to ask his dad exactly where they were in the process right now (nothing done yet, only ordered metal, or already working) and to ask him about some options including reducing the order count and what it would cost if things did indeed have to be cancelled.

I'm sorry for the confusion and awkwardness this is causing. This is a non-profit project and my main goal right now is to try to do the right thing and make sure everyone is happy, and that includes trying to not have people end up with buyer's remorse. For those who still want to order, I'll try to pursue the reduced order quantity option but for those who want to opt out I hope you understand if I can't provide a full refund at this point. Although I know imsto and treble318 were not intending to cause any trouble for me, their choice of timing is a bit of a problem. :(

Please be vocal about whether you like to keep your order or opt out, and for those who do decide to stay with this, please don't take it out on those that don't want to. If you want to opt out but would prefer to do so outside the public eye, feel free to PM me instead. If people don't say anything I'll have to assume that they're okay to keep with this.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 06 April 2012, 15:22:07
I'm keeping it.
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Post by: boost on Fri, 06 April 2012, 15:30:23
I'm keeping mine

Sent from a phone...
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Post by: Elrobo on Fri, 06 April 2012, 15:53:25
Quote from: mkawa;569101

anyway, i want my darned polished blue case.


Going with this, I want my dang case, I didn't wait all this time (while trying to hunt down a new poker for myself) just to have the whole thing thrown out the window, and oneproducts relationship with these people under the bus.
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Post by: oneproduct on Fri, 06 April 2012, 15:57:06
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Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 06 April 2012, 16:00:31
You're a hippy?
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Post by: Autolyze on Fri, 06 April 2012, 16:04:42
We have similar freaky long spider fingers, oneproduct.
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Post by: oneproduct on Fri, 06 April 2012, 16:09:22
Quote from: elton5354;569215
You're a hippy?

I think I look kind of like a psychologist or something haha.

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But yea, my hair is getting a bit too long now.
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Post by: WRXChris on Fri, 06 April 2012, 16:12:06
Quote from: Autolyze;569222
We have similar freaky long spider fingers, oneproduct.

haha you read my mind, I also have similar freaky long spider fingers!  I think that's why I prefer mx reds!
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Post by: boost on Fri, 06 April 2012, 17:11:55
Quote from: oneproduct;569230
I think I look kind of like a psychologist or something haha.

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But yea, my hair is getting a bit too long now.

I thought bbm poses were played out. LOL

Sent from a phone...
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Post by: metafour on Fri, 06 April 2012, 17:15:31
I agree that their timing is imperfect but I'm with mkawa. I'm staying with this case.
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Post by: oneproduct on Fri, 06 April 2012, 17:25:25
Quote from: boost;569279
I thought bbm poses were played out. LOL

Sent from a phone...

lol probably, but it's awkward to just go to someone and say "hey, can you take a picture of me?"
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 06 April 2012, 17:29:32
if it wasn't clear already, i'm keeping my order.
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Post by: ekw808 on Fri, 06 April 2012, 18:13:11
You sir have handled the situation like a true Canadian
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Post by: net2522 on Fri, 06 April 2012, 22:42:14
So, we need to buy more poker then   lol


I'm still in!!
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Post by: jonnybastard on Fri, 06 April 2012, 22:55:07
Yeah I'm still in this for sure, would be a shame to see all your hard work go to waste oneproduct, plus these will end up being the exclusive cases what with such a small run of numbers and imsto's ones starting back up again :p
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Post by: ekw808 on Sat, 07 April 2012, 22:40:47
pretty stoked for this case
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Post by: ekw808 on Mon, 09 April 2012, 22:02:53
I hope this isn't dead
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Post by: Gawkbasher on Mon, 09 April 2012, 22:47:43
Yeah I don't think we're going to be dead because I'm keeping mine too.  This is going to be a damned awesome and unique case.  I think Reptile is the only cancel so far, right?

I also think imsto's case is about 2 months out and I'll probably get one of those too.  Not interested in that other machined case though.

This case is going to be awesome.

If you think about it really, this is a case that was completely designed by/within this community and is much more customizable than any of the other offerings.  It's also a great example group buy where we got something manufactured for ourselves.  I want to support that and I think this is a very compelling product offering compared to imsto's case.
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Post by: net2522 on Mon, 09 April 2012, 22:53:29
Oneproduct~~~
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Post by: oneproduct on Tue, 10 April 2012, 08:10:46
Yup, still going with this. I spoke with them and they already ordered all the metal but I told them to make a few fewer cases since we had a few people opt out, but it shouldn't affect things much. For those who did opt out the refund will come but it may be a bit as I try to get everything sorted out. I also have two exams in the next 6 days so I'm a bit busy at the moment but after that I'll be free to give this as much attention as it needs.
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Post by: mkawa on Tue, 10 April 2012, 10:33:42
thanks for the update oneproduct!
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Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 11 April 2012, 15:37:33
Not all that exciting, but the screws I ordered arrived today. I'll be giving out 6 per order which is the 5 you need for a Poker + 1 if you intend to use it with a Pure or just a spare otherwise.

In other news, my parallel programming final exam is tomorrow! ARSOITENRDONDUVOPUFFOKVWFENO!
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Post by: net2522 on Wed, 11 April 2012, 15:46:46
Good luck with your exam. ARSOITENRDONDUVOPUFFOKVWFENO!!!!
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Post by: jonnybastard on Wed, 11 April 2012, 20:48:30
Woot glad these are going ahead, good luck with the exams!
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Post by: KyesaRRi on Wed, 11 April 2012, 21:01:37
Good luck man!
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Post by: mkawa on Wed, 11 April 2012, 23:14:57
good luck dude!!
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Post by: oneproduct on Thu, 12 April 2012, 17:53:03
Aced it. One more exam on Monday then I'm clear! Summer job starts the week after though. On the bright side it's video game 1st party requirements testing (which is actually not as fun as it sounds, but by no means bad either).

I read in the mods forum about people using the white pocket/sleeve of spongy material that the Poker keyboard comes shipped with as a way to pad the hollow part under the PCB to reduce flex and then it occurred to me that that would probably be a good insulating material which is also inexpensive and easy to get. It would at least be better than what I was originally planning to use, which is the same thing that imsto's case used.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: kaiserreich on Thu, 12 April 2012, 20:39:16
Quote from: oneproduct;574086
Aced it. One more exam on Monday then I'm clear! Summer job starts the week after though. On the bright side it's video game 1st party requirements testing (which is actually not as fun as it sounds, but by no means bad either).

I read in the mods forum about people using the white pocket/sleeve of spongy material that the Poker keyboard comes shipped with as a way to pad the hollow part under the PCB to reduce flex and then it occurred to me that that would probably be a good insulating material which is also inexpensive and easy to get. It would at least be better than what I was originally planning to use, which is the same thing that imsto's case used.

I use bubble wrap =)
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Mon, 16 April 2012, 22:42:41
Finished my last exam, hoorah. Few things:

1. I sent an email to the metal shop to see how things are coming along with them, so hope to hear back from them soon.
2. I'm going to start looking into getting all the shipping materials and details sorted out. If anybody is planning to try to do combined shipping with someone else in the same country (other than US for which we already have mkawa as a redistributor to save on shipping costs) try to let me know so I can get some boxes big enough to ship out multiple orders in them for that.
3. I just saw treble318's glass beaded and powder coated case and it's pretty nice looking. I do think that the polishing option for these handmade ones is going to be their cool distinguishing feature for those who like the shiny bling look.
4. For those who requested to opt out, I'm planning to give a full refund so you can expect that in a week or two once I get some accounting finished up. If you really need it sooner feel free to contact me and I'll see what I can do. At this time though I can't really allow anyone else to opt out because I already told them the readjusted order count.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: net2522 on Mon, 16 April 2012, 23:01:50
oneproduct  I want This!!!  Powder Coated Matt!!!!
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Post by: mkawa on Mon, 16 April 2012, 23:58:27
congrats oneproduct!

anyway, it's worth noting that the only finish that treble can do is bead blast + powdercoat. the selection we're getting here is tres cool.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Tue, 17 April 2012, 06:35:04
Ya, I think both brushing and polishing are much cooler looking than bead blasting in terms of a finish and I think anodizing is cooler than powder coating. :)

I've never really been a fan of the matte look though, so bead blasting does provide that for those who like it. The coloring place told me that apparently anodizing doesn't work so well with bead blasting though because the surface is not as even.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: net2522 on Tue, 17 April 2012, 06:39:30
matte FREAK!!--------------ME
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Post by: emptythecache on Tue, 17 April 2012, 07:31:26
I feel like you might be in the wrong thread.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Omerta on Tue, 17 April 2012, 10:53:37
Any chance of doing a HHKP2 aluminum cases Group buy?

I've love a red matte/carbon fiber HHKP2 Case.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: emptythecache on Tue, 17 April 2012, 11:44:31
you might be in the wrong thread too.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 25 April 2012, 09:28:55
So I looked into shipping a bit more and these are prices I found sending a single case to New York (and which should be pretty representative of everywhere in the US within a few dollars):

Expedited Parcel - 4 business days ~ $18.36
Small Packet – Air - 4 to 10 business days ~ $15.67
Small Packet – Surface - 6 to 12 business days ~ $12.66

This is using Canada Post, which is generally the cheapest option for sending things that don't need rush delivery. People in Canada can probably expect something around this or a few dollars cheaper.

To send 6 cases to mkawa costs about $42 using UPS, which is about $7 per case, but then when I look at the USPS site it seems that that $7 + domestic shipping won't really beat the individual Canada Post prices, so I'll probably send them out to the people in the US individually, which means you'll get them faster too once they're ready to go.

For international people, anything other than Canada Post is pretty much out of the question. I checked Purolator, UPS, TNT and DHL and their prices start at about $80 to send something across the ocean because they only do rush delivery. Using Canada Post, I get something like this to Germany (UK and the rest of Europe is about the same):

Small Packet – Air - 6 to 10 business days ~ $34.82
Small Packet – Surface - 4 to 6 weeks ~ $15.85

So it's possible to get a cheap price, but it will take awhile to get there if I go with that.

Thailand is about $1 more than Europe.
Australia is about $2 more than Europe.

Just wanted to give this as a little heads up. If anybody across an ocean finds something faster/cheaper I'd be happy to use it. While $16ish dollars seems like a good price 4-6 weeks is a long time to wait for mail.

edit: I'll be out for most of the day but feel free to ask any question either here or in a PM to me as always.
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Post by: mkawa on Wed, 25 April 2012, 09:42:12
there are <6 of us left in the US? :/

sounds like direct is the way to go.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: net2522 on Wed, 25 April 2012, 09:51:04
Is it ready to ship out yet?
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Post by: Gawkbasher on Wed, 25 April 2012, 10:51:59
Now to decide if I want you to glue it for me or to do it myself.  I really wanted to give it a good inspection/appreciation and then do it but my lazy vibes are kicking in.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 25 April 2012, 11:50:15
for those who were waiting for me to come ip with an attachment solution, i've pretty much settled on using 3m command strips if my plates need to be attached. i'm pretty sure you're all capable of using adhesive strips yourself, so i wouldn't worry too much about your case not passing through me
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Gawkbasher on Wed, 25 April 2012, 12:07:45
Not a bad idea, mkawa.  Thanks!
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Post by: boost on Wed, 25 April 2012, 12:57:45
Cant wait to get this and powder coat it textured red to match my wrist rest....
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 25 April 2012, 13:36:20
oh man, maybe we should do a powdercoating group via treble to hve the natural colored ones painted (!!!)
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: WRXChris on Wed, 25 April 2012, 15:15:16
Quote from: mkawa;581887
for those who were waiting for me to come ip with an attachment solution, i've pretty much settled on using 3m command strips if my plates need to be attached. i'm pretty sure you're all capable of using adhesive strips yourself, so i wouldn't worry too much about your case not passing through me


Sounds like a solid plan.  I've never used 3m command strips before, how many do you think I should use to ensure no movement without going overboard?  8 strips maybe?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 25 April 2012, 16:51:26
Quote from: mkawa;581760
there are <6 of us left in the US? :/

sounds like direct is the way to go.

Oh no, there's 17 left in the US. There were only 3 people who opted out in all and another person who had to cancel prior to that for other reasons. If I could find a box big enough to fit in all 17 while at the same time not being too overly large (since they charge you by volumetric weight in additional to actual weight) then it would probably be less than $7 per case, but overall you'd only maybe be saving like $3 but you'd have to wait much longer for it to get to you, so it's easier to just send it directly since Canada Post to the US vs domestic US isn't that different in price to begin with. I only mentioned 6 because I found a box that can fit 6 cases perfectly so I was going to do 3 x 6 if I went with that plan I think.

Can someone link me to these 3M command strips you guys are talking about? Should I try to get some of those instead of gluing the two pieces? Still open to suggestions on this part. I found this but there's not much to look at in terms of pictures: http://products3.3m.com/catalog/ca/en001/office/-/node_LGSTKVVC48ge/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_GSZCZYKRQ9ge/theme_ca_en_office_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: metafour on Wed, 25 April 2012, 17:18:06
I've had a a couple of Pokers shipped from Canada and the Canada Post Surface took the same amount of time as Air.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 25 April 2012, 17:20:32
Is it almost done? :D
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 25 April 2012, 17:27:14
The cases should be done within the next two days. Then I have to bring them to get anodized, which will take a minimum of 3 days, not sure what the max time is. After that I'll have to make a simple jig and glue the ones for those that requested it and I think I have to let the glue set for several hours. So while the glue is setting I'll send out the ones that didn't ask for it and the day after I'll send out the glued ones. So I'm expecting to have them ready around the end of next week or, if not, early the week after so long as everything goes well.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Thu, 26 April 2012, 16:21:04
Good news first:
1. The cases were finished today and I rushed over to pick them up.
2. The price didn't change for our lower order quantity, so it's still $64 base cost.
3. I paid in cash under the table, so we don't have to pay the 14.975% tax which reduces the cost of the case by about $9.60. As this is a non-profit project as always, any extra money will be used towards the cost of anodizing/shipping.
4. I immediately rushed over to the anodizing place to put in the order with them.

Bad news:
1. The anodizing place told me it would be 2-3 weeks. :(

Boost didn't want any finishing/anodizing done so here's some quick video of the case, but it's nothing you haven't really seen before:

[video=youtube_share;a_GPDytXYh4]http://youtu.be/a_GPDytXYh4[/video]

Then some pictures of all the cases and the inserts that are going in for finishing/anodizing:

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Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: net2522 on Thu, 26 April 2012, 16:24:23
:clap2::clap2:
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: J-P on Thu, 26 April 2012, 16:24:50
Lookin good! :)
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: ekw808 on Thu, 26 April 2012, 16:58:45
Dope, is the 2-3 week option for the anodizing the best option we have right now?? Or are they already underway to be painted?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: emptythecache on Thu, 26 April 2012, 17:06:04
Those weld marks look WAY better than I remember them looking on the prototype. That was my biggest concern by far.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Thu, 26 April 2012, 17:17:32
Quote from: ekw808;583129
Dope, is the 2-3 week option for the anodizing the best option we have right now?? Or are they already underway to be painted?

I already left the cases with them and placed the order. There's not much that I can do about the time frame unfortunately.

Quote from: emptythecache;583138
Those weld marks look WAY better than I remember them looking on the prototype. That was my biggest concern by far.

Because they are made by hand some are extremely clean, some are a little bit messier, but overall they're pretty good I think, and the brushing/polishing will probably help to hide them even more.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: jonnybastard on Thu, 26 April 2012, 17:54:31
Looking really good I must say!  Shame about the anodizing wait time but another few weeks wont hurt, thanks again wahnproduct :)
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 26 April 2012, 19:54:45
good work takes time :)

those look effing great!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Thu, 26 April 2012, 20:33:37
Quote from: mkawa;583318
good work takes time :)

those look effing great!

I'm pretty eager myself. I can't wait to see what the polished finish ends up looking like, it's going to be so super awesome and shiny. :D
I bought a full set of blank silver zinc keycaps from feng to use with it except for the spacebar and right shift which he doesn't have unfortunately.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: metafour on Thu, 26 April 2012, 20:35:50
Quote from: oneproduct;583344
I bought a full set of blank silver zinc keycaps from feng to use with it except for the spacebar and right shift which he doesn't have unfortunately.

I bet that was cheap... ;)
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: dippingriz on Thu, 26 April 2012, 21:24:50
Personal PM sent.  These look great.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: emptythecache on Fri, 27 April 2012, 05:23:56
I feel like my oneproduct and treble318 cases are going to show up within days of each other. I only have one poker. No clue which one I'll end up using.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: net2522 on Fri, 27 April 2012, 05:26:17
^ I'm in the same boat.  lol :becky:
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Fri, 27 April 2012, 15:56:52
And Boost's case if off! It should be arriving to him around Wednesday next week. The insert is wrapped in the white stuff which also doubles as insulating material to use between the insert and the case (you'll have to cut it to size after it serves it's double duty)! The insert itself is wrapped in two pieces of the foam and then I included a third one just in case. There are 6 screws which is the 5 you need for a Poker plus 1 spare or if you get a Pure in the future you can use it for that.

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Shipping materials weigh more than I though, so for people in the US I can't actually use the small packets as it exceeds the maximum weight for that shipping type.

Expedited Parcel - 4 business days ~ $18.36
[strike]Small Packet – Air - 4 to 10 business days ~ $15.67[/strike]
[strike]Small Packet – Surface - 6 to 12 business days ~ $12.66[/strike]

I'll look at UPS and USPS again sometime to check if it's worth sending them all to mkawa and then having him send them out domestically. For non-US international destinations the weight limit for small packet is higher so I can still use that.

I ordered some better fitting boxes today as well. It's pretty hard to find something to fit these cases which are 11-3/4" x 4-1/4" x 1". The one in the picture was something like 12-1/2" x 9" x 3" but I managed to get 12" x 6" x 2" boxes which I'll use for the other cases once they all get back from anodizing.

Just to mention a final price, without finishing/anodizing it came out to $87 total = case ($64) + shipping to US (this may go down a dollar or two) + materials (currently $2.74 per case). If you added on brushed finish + blue anodize for example that would be around $98 total, so in general it's just a little shy of treble's cases which cost $113 domestically. I hope these compare well to his.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 27 April 2012, 15:59:18
Sorry, I just stalked you on Google Maps
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: net2522 on Fri, 27 April 2012, 16:27:09
so, jelly BOOST!!!!!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 27 April 2012, 20:13:15
we have a couple weeks to figure out shipping logistics, so take your time oneproduct. i'm still happy to proxy for everyone fwiw
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: KyesaRRi on Sat, 12 May 2012, 01:18:13
Any update over the weekend oneproduct?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Sat, 12 May 2012, 05:51:57
No word back from the anodizing place yet. They had told me 2-3 weeks 16 days ago, so they're still within their time frame. If I don't hear from them by then I'll go visit them to see how things are going.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: boost on Sat, 12 May 2012, 09:17:42
Quote from: net2522;584177
so, jelly BOOST!!!!!

:D

(http://img.tapatalk.com/47a70367-70d0-e7b4.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/47a70367-70e5-a71f.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/47a70367-70f7-551f.jpg)
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Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: boost on Sat, 12 May 2012, 10:39:23
Quote from: ripster;590648
Those are nice pics you sent by TapaTalk.

Ye sent by tapatalk :D
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: snowboarder3 on Sat, 12 May 2012, 14:24:38
what in the hell did boost cover that with? looks neat-o
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: DanGWanG on Sat, 12 May 2012, 14:36:25
Quote from: snowboarder3;590884
what in the hell did boost cover that with? looks neat-o

The blood and sweat of a 100 Chinese factory workers.

But in all seriousness, I think he referred to it as a textured [strike]anodize[/strike] powder-coated process?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: boost on Sat, 12 May 2012, 14:54:35
Quote from: snowboarder3;590884
what in the hell did boost cover that with? looks neat-o

Powder coated Honda textured red :D

This is the same paint that are on the Honda viable covers. Honda head know what I'm talking about, I was once Honda head(good ole days)
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: KyesaRRi on Sat, 12 May 2012, 17:42:26
Quote from: oneproduct;590526
No word back from the anodizing place yet. They had told me 2-3 weeks 16 days ago, so they're still within their time frame. If I don't hear from them by then I'll go visit them to see how things are going.


Cool cool thanks man oh and very nice keyboard there boost =D
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: alaricljs on Sat, 12 May 2012, 20:41:10
Quote from: boost;590900
Powder coated Honda textured red :D

This is the same paint that are on the Honda viable covers. Honda head know what I'm talking about, I was once Honda head(good ole days)

You mean valve cover?  :)  I don't think I've had a Honda w/ red.  (2 CRXs (90/91), Civic Si (02))
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 12 May 2012, 20:43:49
all the type r motors have had red valve covers (b18c-r, k20a-r, etc)
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: alaricljs on Sat, 12 May 2012, 20:46:06
Oh yeah, that would be all those models I never had the opportunity to own for one reason or another.  :(  Would have lurved an SiR.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 12 May 2012, 20:56:19
also all f-series s2000 motors have red valve covers and i believe all nsx valve covers are red (but the latter i'm really not sure about).

fun honda fact: before the mortgage bubble crashed, honda was designing an s2000 type r to close out the s2000's production run. instead, we got the CR (type-S in japan).  (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

(note that all type Rs have motors hand-built to higher tolerances with uprated internals. basically every type R comes with another design pass for the motor. hence, the f2xc motors never got a significant design change after 2000 because of the housing bubble :/)
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Mon, 14 May 2012, 18:47:39
The anodizing place called me today to let me know they're getting started on it now (they had been working on things from earlier customers). I asked them how long but they said they didn't know. Sorry this is taking so long guys, not much I can really do.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 14 May 2012, 18:58:01
eh, stuff happens. thanks for the update man!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: boost on Mon, 14 May 2012, 19:15:04
I really wanna see how this comes out..
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 16 May 2012, 10:44:15
The finishing/anodizing place called me again this morning. They brushed one case and polished another one for testing purposes. Apparently the brushed one looks great but the polishing was a little bit pitted (I presume he means where they polish over the welded corners). I'm going to go over and visit them in about two hours to check for myself and I'll take some pictures or videos to show you guys. If the polishing really looks bad, I'm going to just have them all brushed instead.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 16 May 2012, 13:06:06
The first case is polished, the second is brushed. Sorry it's so blurry, it's just a cellphone camera.

You may want to mute the audio or lower your volume a little, there's some buzzing from machinery in the background.
[video=youtube_share;Y8UPsmHZ31c]http://youtu.be/Y8UPsmHZ31c[/video]

You can see a bit better in the pictures I took (first three are of the polished case's pits, last is the brushed case):

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You can see that there are little "pits" visible in the polished one which become visible when you polish off some of the surface of the aluminum. I'll send a PM to those who wanted it polished to see if they'd want to get it brushed instead.

edit: It's hard to tell from these video and pictures, but they look very nice in person and the finishing hid all the signs of welding on the outside corners (you can still see a tiny bit along the top edge though). Sorry I couldn't take more, they were in a hurry and didn't want to babysit me in the shop while I was taking pictures. I have to let them know what to go with as soon as possible, so I'm going to be calling them tomorrow morning. I personally don't think that the little pits are too bad, so if I don't hear back from people I'm going to assume that it's okay to go ahead with polishing.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: emptythecache on Wed, 16 May 2012, 13:21:59
eeee those pits look a little rough. Hard to tell about the scale of them though. And did he say anything about whether or not the anodizing would fill them in or hide them?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 16 May 2012, 13:24:36
The second picture lets you see them at a better scale (about the size of a pinprick), in the first picture I'm pretty zoomed in on them. The anodizing won't hide them since it's more like changing the color of the aluminum rather than applying a layer of paint over it.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: boost on Wed, 16 May 2012, 13:25:47
I don't think it will fill the deeper ones..but the brushed looks great
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 16 May 2012, 14:40:03
that's unfortunate. i'll think about it and decide tonight when i can look at the images on my computer

if i don't get back to this, just make my polished case brushed. the pits look pretty visible on the polished unit on my phone
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: J-P on Wed, 16 May 2012, 15:28:00
Lookin' good dude - happy to stick with the brushed decision ;)
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: ekw808 on Wed, 16 May 2012, 16:13:13
Since it is only brushed will it be more prone to scratches and knicks?? I get the feeling that if the brushed on were on my desk the bottom of the case that is not elevated and resting on my desk could get scratched by some dirt or dust on my desk (not that my desk is dirty but it seems like a possible issue), but the polished looks like the clear outer coat could protect it from what I mentioned. Are the pits guaranteed to show up on polished cases?? and is it going to be a polished vs brushed decision as a whole??
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 16 May 2012, 16:46:43
For the finishing you choose polished or brushed, then whichever you choose, it will also be anodized, and the anodizing protects it from scratches and such.

The pits would be random for each piece of aluminum.

It won't be polished vs brushed as a whole. You can choose the finish you want individually.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: ekw808 on Wed, 16 May 2012, 20:00:41
Ok, in that case I'll take mine brushed then I dont want to see those pits
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Elrobo on Wed, 16 May 2012, 20:05:30
Sticking with polished because hey it's a slight gamble, might turn out perfect, plus I won't see it too often unless the front is mangled or something.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 16 May 2012, 20:08:57
oneproduct: how noticeable would you say the pits were when viewed from a reasonable distance? also, were they big enough to feel if you brushed your hand over them? i love the mirror finish, but i don't want gaping holes anodized into it. if they're pretty minor imperfections that's fine, and i'll keep the polishing on my blue (although i wouldn't object if they wanted to put a tiny bit of filler material in and polish and anodize over more noticeable pitting...). if you think they're pretty noticeable, i'll go with the safer option.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 16 May 2012, 20:37:19
Quote from: ekw808;594274
Ok, in that case I'll take mine brushed then I dont want to see those pits

Confirmed.

Quote from: Elrobo;594279
Sticking with polished because hey it's a slight gamble, might turn out perfect, plus I won't see it too often unless the front is mangled or something.

Yea, I'm sticking with polished too. Also I'll be taking the ones that come out the worst for myself so that you guys get the nicer ones.

Quote from: mkawa;594282
oneproduct: how noticeable would you say the pits were when viewed from a reasonable distance? also, were they big enough to feel if you brushed your hand over them? i love the mirror finish, but i don't want gaping holes anodized into it. if they're pretty minor imperfections that's fine, and i'll keep the polishing on my blue (although i wouldn't object if they wanted to put a tiny bit of filler material in and polish and anodize over more noticeable pitting...). if you think they're pretty noticeable, i'll go with the safer option.

I only really looked at it from pretty close up, but from far away (i.e. maybe a person sitting one seat to your side) I doubt you'd really notice. Unless you're really scrutinizing it, I think the second picture I put up is probably already closer than most people would look at the case from (the camera is close enough that the case fills its entire vision) and from that distance you can see that the holes are already pretty small. The other two pictures I took of it are super zoomed in. Also keep in mind that these pits were on the bottom so it's not like you'll be seeing them anyways. I don't think there were any on the walls, though that doesn't guarantee that there couldn't be any.

I didn't try to run my fingers over them, but I doubt you'd feel them. They're pretty small, when he mentioned it over the phone I thought it would be something really bad but when I got there my first reaction was like "oh, that's it?" It's also a question of how picky you are, and I know a lot of us are pretty picky. I'm not bothered by it personally. But again, my first concern is that people are happy, so if you have doubts, going with the safer option might be good.

-----

For anybody else who would like to change, you have to let me know before around 7am EST tomorrow, May 17 (12pm GMT). I'll be calling first thing in the morning to tell them to make the appropriate number changes and go ahead.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 16 May 2012, 20:49:20
Also, the pits would probably be less noticeable on blue because there would be less contrast between them and the case.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Gawkbasher on Wed, 16 May 2012, 21:01:17
Surprisingly (to myself, even), I still want to go polished.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 16 May 2012, 23:45:04
ok i'm sticking to polished. will also pm you oneproduct.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: WRXChris on Wed, 16 May 2012, 23:49:15
I'm going to stick with polished.  It's what convinced me to join this GB in the first place :)
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Thu, 17 May 2012, 06:28:26
Alright, I'm going to be calling them now with the changed polishing/brushing quantities. If you haven't already chimed in I'm keeping it how you already had it.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: jonnybastard on Thu, 17 May 2012, 07:10:41
Shouldn't be too noticeable I don't think, still keen4polish!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Blackhawk19 on Thu, 17 May 2012, 14:17:03
Let's be honest, who is really going to be turning over the keyboard and looking at the underside to complain about the pits on a regular basis...
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: emptythecache on Thu, 17 May 2012, 14:18:11
you must be new around here.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: metafour on Thu, 17 May 2012, 14:24:44
Quote from: Blackhawk19;594785
Let's be honest, who is really going to be turning over the keyboard and looking at the underside to complain about the pits on a regular basis...


Part of the concern might be that the pits won't just be on the bottom because they can show up in random places.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: dippingriz on Sat, 19 May 2012, 14:21:49
I still think the polished will look great.  I can't tell you how many times this term comes to mind on this site.  
McRip Effect (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?23217-Ripster-Mythbusting-The-quot-McRip-Effect-quot-!)

Big props to oneproduct for this whole project.  It shows leadership and integrity that he's taking the worst cases for himself.  Much respect for you man.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 27 May 2012, 22:44:45
Are they done yet? Been almost 2 weeks since last update! Can't wait!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Mon, 28 May 2012, 14:06:59
Nothing new yet, and trust me, I'm dying as well. I just got a full set of silver colored zinc keycaps to go with it to have an all metal keyboard!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: metafour on Tue, 05 June 2012, 16:33:49
Any word on the progress and status of these?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 06 June 2012, 06:09:39
Last time I spoke with them was when telling them the adjusted quantities for each type of finishing. Nothing since then. That was about two weeks ago.

They are taking quite a bit longer than I expected, but I assume it's because I'm pretty far back in the queue for things. When I went to go visit there was literally like a football field sized area where metal was hanging from kind of clotheslines that spanned the width of the place that they were working on.

Anyways, I'll try to shoot them an email to see what's up. I'm itching to get mine back. I started the tedious task of dremeling the set of zinc keycaps I got from feng to have a full metal keyboard (except for the spacebar). I'm very sorry it's taking this long, when I started all this I never expected it to take the amount of time it's taking now.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 06 June 2012, 13:37:43
Just got this back:

Quote
They should be finished in the next couple of days.

Thank you,

[Name removed]
Customer Service - Service à la Clientèle
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: WRXChris on Wed, 06 June 2012, 14:04:56
About time! ;)  Can't wait to see pics of the polished finish!!!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: dippingriz on Tue, 12 June 2012, 01:29:27
The wait will be worth it.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: metafour on Wed, 13 June 2012, 09:03:56
Any status updates?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 13 June 2012, 11:45:33
Not since the "in the next couple of days" they told me last week sadly. :/
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: metafour on Wed, 13 June 2012, 12:35:33
Those savages. ;)
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: metafour on Sat, 16 June 2012, 13:52:21
I'm really not trying to harass you about this but what's the plan of action? Are you going to wait until they contact you?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 16 June 2012, 17:11:41
well on the upside they didn't finish them while i was gone, so i can still do the US forwarding :)
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Sat, 16 June 2012, 19:56:54
Quote from: metafour;614897
I'm really not trying to harass you about this but what's the plan of action? Are you going to wait until they contact you?

No worries, I don't feel harassed at all. I totally understand and am getting pretty annoyed at them myself with how long they are taking. The actual production of the cases (once all the designing was finished) took less time than this. But on the other hand I have to say that getting angry at them probably won't benefit us that much. I'll contact them again on Monday.

For the record though, I have to say that the person I talk with there quite obviously doesn't treat me as professionally as he probably does with their bigger customers. Probably since I come in wearing plain clothes, I'm young-ish and I'm not a company with a big order. If I ever do something like this again I might try to look for another place as I'm not too impressed with how they went so far over the estimated time they gave me.

@mkawa
I'm going to ship them out directly to everyone myself just to get it out faster once they are done. People have already waited so long, it's not worth saving a few bucks.

---

As a side note, I recently got an IBM Model M SSK and I'm looking for someone in the US to bolt mod it as well as put in a new set of springs, hammers and keycaps which I'd order and have shipped to you (I'd also pay for the bolt modding materials as well of course). If anybody is interested I would pay the cost of anodizing and shipping for one of your cases in exchange for the service.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 16 June 2012, 20:58:37
sounds good.

also i think i may be able to help you with the bolt modding oneproduct, and i'm going to order a set of caps from unicomp soon too. PM me dude
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: metafour on Wed, 20 June 2012, 14:06:53
Did they get back to you at all?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 20 June 2012, 14:19:06
unfortunately i'm guessing no. :(

think you can run by oneproduct?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: Elrobo on Wed, 20 June 2012, 20:27:06
No scrutiny to oneproduct who I thank for getting all this together, but when he swings by he should swat someone with a rolled up calendar.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 20 June 2012, 20:47:44
I hope it's done by the weekend of July 6th cause I'll be in town for a few days. I can come by to pick it up and save $10 on shipping =D
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 20 June 2012, 20:52:27
Quote from: Elrobo;618278
No scrutiny to oneproduct who I thank for getting all this together, but when he swings by he should swat someone with a rolled up calendar.
you canadians are too nice. i think i'd have some choicer words for them
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 20 June 2012, 22:03:55
If only we had easy access to guns here ;)

I send an email earlier today but didn't hear anything back yet.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Fri, 22 June 2012, 16:37:52
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Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, they will be ready on the 26th june…we will call you!!

[name]
Customer Service - Service à la Clientèle

Finally!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: KyesaRRi on Fri, 22 June 2012, 19:22:03
Quote from: oneproduct;619819
Finally!

Great news
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 23 June 2012, 05:52:34
otoh this is great, otoh i still want to go there and slap someone.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: WRXChris on Mon, 25 June 2012, 16:13:52
I sure can't wait for tomorrow; I hope you're planning on getting some pictures up for us ASAP! :D
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Mon, 25 June 2012, 19:06:01
Will definitely put up some pictures and video first thing when I get them. Here's hoping they come out well!

Tomorrow will be pretty much dedicated to getting out the trays for people that did not request me to glue their two pieces together since I can do that fastest. Once those are out, I'll work on getting the others glued and send those out after. Wednesday I have summer classes from 11 am to 11 pm so I won't be able to do much then and will have to wait for Thursday.

That reminds me, I'm going to PM everyone and ask for addresses again because it's been so long that I want to make sure that everyone is still in the same spot.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 25 June 2012, 19:36:03
huge thanks for your dedicated oneproduct!
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: jonnybastard on Mon, 25 June 2012, 19:56:15
Cheers dude!! :bounce:
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Mon, 25 June 2012, 20:45:53
So I just took a peek at shipping costs again, pretty much exactly what I had posted a long time ago.

The cases will be shipping out in boxes that are 12"x6"x2" which are pretty much the smallest boxes I could find that fits a poker. Having sent one of the unanodized cases to boost already, I know that it weighs dangerously close to 1 kg when all packaged up. For destinations outside North America, this isn't a problem since the weight limit for the cheaper shipping options is 2 kg, but for North America it's 1 kg. I actually had to trim off some of the box flaps when I sent it to boost so that it was under 1 kg, it was literally like 50 g overweight before I did that and they wouldn't accept it. I'll pretty confident I'll be able to get it under 1 kg though.

All the shipping prices I'm quoting here are rounded to the nearest dollar from the Canada Post website and you're free to double check for yourself if you like. My postal code is H9R 5L9.

Canada (this one varies greatly with how far you are from Quebec, so I'll have to either let you know individually or you could sort of ballpark it. The first figure is within Quebec, the second is for Vancouver on the other side of Canada)
$9 - $14 ground (3 to 7 days)
$13 - $24 express (1 to 2 days; comes with tracking number)

US
$13 ground (6 to 12 days)
$16 air (4 to 10 days)
$21 expedited (4 days; comes with a tracking number)
--for those that ordered 2 it should be $27 expedited and for those that ordered 3 it should be $29 expedited (the other two methods aren't available for the weight of more than 1 case)

Europe/Australia/Thailand (the latter two are actually like $1 more but it's close enough)
$16 ground (4 to 6 weeks) <-- this is kind of slow sadly, but sending it by air is pretty expensive :S
$35 air (6 to 10 days)
--Note that neither of these come with tracking numbers, the options that do cost as much as the case itself... I've shipped a few things to Europe before without problem though. If something goes missing along the way I'll cover for it.

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So once I get these back tomorrow and make sure that they're okay, I'll start collecting the remainder for the anodizing and shipping method of your choice. When you pay this amount please tell me the shipping method you would like and if you need me to declare the package a certain way (i.e. as a gift of a certain value, but please only ask if you know you need it declared like that).
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: metafour on Mon, 25 June 2012, 21:07:45
You only have to worry about the 1kg limit to the US with the ground shipping correct?
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Mon, 25 June 2012, 21:18:44
Both with ground and air, but I should be able to get it under. I'll just have to use lighter padding.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 25 June 2012, 22:02:39
I'll take the Xpress Post - $13.
Title: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 25 June 2012, 23:22:34
my package is going to be huge since it's two cases and your SSK. just do whatever needs to be done to get it here and we'll work it out later.
Title: Re: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: J-P on Mon, 23 July 2012, 04:46:38
 ;D Arrived!

Looks awesome too dude.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o107/hatarakibachi/5b689210.jpg)

Only one problem - I can't screw in the board... did I miss something? Do I need to buy some longer screws maybe....
Title: Re: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: oneproduct on Tue, 24 July 2012, 07:40:19
There should have been 6 screws included in the package in a ziplock bag, though it's possible I forgot to include it with yours. If that's the case send me a PM and I could send a set in a regular white envelope.
Title: Re: ANODIZING for aluminum poker cases
Post by: KyesaRRi on Sat, 04 August 2012, 00:11:25
Got mine a little while ago, the glue has come off so the plate was rattling around in the case during shipping. There is a little ding on the back of the case but other than those minor issues its perfect.