Author Topic: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates (Read 45224 times)

otanishock · « **Reply #50 on:** Thu, 15 August 2019, 12:09:05 »

Quote from: Mcnos on Thu, 15 August 2019, 09:00:35

Sure sure, you will watch it

shut up u fat hoe

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lamenthe · « **Reply #51 on:** Thu, 15 August 2019, 23:49:30 »

Any new updates on this?

reconsiderit · « **Reply #52 on:** Fri, 16 August 2019, 16:29:27 »

So I pulled the 910 out yesterday and took a look at the USB port and it does look like there should be enough room for a 1.2mm PCB to fit. The main issue is the cable as the USB tunnel for the 910 is on the smaller side. The cable pictured is just a simple sleeved cable but anything larger would probably have fitment issues with 1.2

Last picture are calipers opened to 0.45mm. It's on the same focus plane as the USB port to give you guys an idea of how much room you'd be working with.

gxtcha · « **Reply #53 on:** Sat, 17 August 2019, 10:52:06 »

Apologies if I missed this but will the USB port be updated to USB-C?

1391401 · « **Reply #54 on:** Sun, 18 August 2019, 21:23:13 »

dumb question - whats the point of the slits cut in the pcb? I see that on the Polaris too

Puddsy · « **Reply #55 on:** Sun, 18 August 2019, 21:38:58 »

Quote from: 1391401 on Sun, 18 August 2019, 21:23:13

dumb question - whats the point of the slits cut in the pcb? I see that on the Polaris too

"adds flex"

LightningXI · « **Reply #56 on:** Mon, 19 August 2019, 17:36:50 »

Is there a timeline for this? Just wondering when a GB would open.

otanishock · « **Reply #57 on:** Mon, 19 August 2019, 22:44:20 »

Good call. I took a look at the pcb and I think right now the Unikorn 1.2 pcb just sits right on top of the brass weight/bottom case with very little gap in between. Anything thicker than ~~1.2mm~~ 1.6 mm you will probably run into risk of hitting against the bottom case.

EDIT: Sorry I didn't realize it was actually 1.6mm. Thanks Lightning for pointing out.

LightningXI · « **Reply #58 on:** Mon, 19 August 2019, 22:57:31 »

IIRC the TGR-910 PCB is called TGR-Unicorn v1.2 (with a C) and is 1.6mm, the standard thickness, so otanishock probably meant anything thicker than 1.6mm would have issues.

otanishock · « **Reply #59 on:** Mon, 19 August 2019, 23:05:46 »

Quote from: LightningXI on Mon, 19 August 2019, 22:57:31

IIRC the TGR-910 PCB is called TGR-Unicorn v1.2 (with a C) and is 1.6mm, the standard thickness, so otanishock probably meant anything thicker than 1.6mm would have issues.

You are absolutely right. Sorry I was mistaken. Thanks for pointing out.

lamenthe · « **Reply #60 on:** Thu, 22 August 2019, 02:18:57 »

+1 on timeline, so ready for this.

reconsiderit · « **Reply #61 on:** Thu, 22 August 2019, 02:56:27 »

Quote from: gxtcha on Sat, 17 August 2019, 10:52:06

Apologies if I missed this but will the USB port be updated to USB-C?

Will not. USB-C doesn't fit the 910 USB tunnel.

reconsiderit · « **Reply #62 on:** Thu, 22 August 2019, 03:33:17 »

Quote from: LightningXI on Mon, 19 August 2019, 17:36:50

Is there a timeline for this? Just wondering when a GB would open.

Targeting late next week. Need to do some CAD work on the plate. Looks like most people want a universal plate.

Will also be doing either a brass option on top of Polycarb and maybe FR4.

GB should be open for two weeks or so and production will take about two months at most. Cutting anodizing out of the process saves a ton of time.

New IC with updated options: https://forms.gle/6Z3CcviLrx89w52h7

rora · « **Reply #63 on:** Thu, 22 August 2019, 04:39:05 »

Excited for this! Thanks! : )

Filled out the form.

Traveler · « **Reply #64 on:** Thu, 22 August 2019, 11:17:30 »

Next week? Sounds nice.

lamenthe · « **Reply #65 on:** Sun, 25 August 2019, 13:57:39 »

Quote from: reconsiderit on Thu, 22 August 2019, 03:33:17

Quote from: LightningXI on Mon, 19 August 2019, 17:36:50
Is there a timeline for this? Just wondering when a GB would open.

Targeting late next week. Need to do some CAD work on the plate. Looks like most people want a universal plate.

Will also be doing either a brass option on top of Polycarb and maybe FR4.

GB should be open for two weeks or so and production will take about two months at most. Cutting anodizing out of the process saves a ton of time.

New IC with updated options: https://forms.gle/6Z3CcviLrx89w52h7

YES! Crossing my fingers on the brass.

After looking at the new IC Form - does anyone know if the original 910 plate was considered uncoated or coated brass?

smittysteve · « **Reply #66 on:** Sun, 25 August 2019, 18:34:21 »

Quote from: lamenthe on Sun, 25 August 2019, 13:57:39

Quote from: reconsiderit on Thu, 22 August 2019, 03:33:17
Quote from: LightningXI on Mon, 19 August 2019, 17:36:50
Is there a timeline for this? Just wondering when a GB would open.

Targeting late next week. Need to do some CAD work on the plate. Looks like most people want a universal plate.

Will also be doing either a brass option on top of Polycarb and maybe FR4.

GB should be open for two weeks or so and production will take about two months at most. Cutting anodizing out of the process saves a ton of time.

New IC with updated options: https://forms.gle/6Z3CcviLrx89w52h7

YES! Crossing my fingers on the brass.

After looking at the new IC Form - does anyone know if the original 910 plate was considered uncoated or coated brass?

Original plates are sandblasted brass.

gxtcha · « **Reply #67 on:** Wed, 04 September 2019, 21:52:42 »

Is this still happening?

lamenthe · « **Reply #68 on:** Thu, 05 September 2019, 22:00:41 »

bump for visibility - hoping this is still happening too

Mcnos · « **Reply #69 on:** Fri, 06 September 2019, 21:55:56 »

reconsiderit · « **Reply #70 on:** Thu, 19 September 2019, 00:46:01 »

Quote from: Mcnos on Fri, 06 September 2019, 21:55:56

Still happening, but am ordering PCBs in 1.2 and 1.6 right now for proto. Will also finish my SP65 GB before I start this

gxtcha · « **Reply #71 on:** Sat, 21 September 2019, 10:07:50 »

Awesome! Thanks for the update!

lamenthe · « **Reply #72 on:** Sat, 21 September 2019, 21:04:32 »

Thank you

fleeceman · « **Reply #73 on:** Tue, 24 September 2019, 17:27:41 »

I am interested!

Edit: Oh ansi only? No chance of an iso version?

alexfry · « **Reply #74 on:** Mon, 30 September 2019, 23:44:37 »

I need this badly.
I think I just borked the PCB in my EXENT.

rclewright · « **Reply #75 on:** Tue, 01 October 2019, 10:02:14 »

Does anyone know if the pcb will be compatible with the kyuu?

Thank you!

vegs · « **Reply #76 on:** Thu, 03 October 2019, 04:25:09 »

Quote from: fleeceman on Tue, 24 September 2019, 17:27:41

I am interested!

Edit: Oh ansi only? No chance of an iso version?

+1, iso version would be great.

zekkin · « **Reply #77 on:** Thu, 03 October 2019, 10:43:44 »

Quote from: rclewright on Tue, 01 October 2019, 10:02:14

Does anyone know if the pcb will be compatible with the kyuu?

Thank you!

It will not, I'm pretty sure the compatibility for this is only for the 910 and EXENT.

alexfry · « **Reply #78 on:** Sun, 06 October 2019, 15:42:35 »

Actually is this compatible with the EXENT?

I understand the originals were identical between the two boards, but this seems to be missing the key on the top right and has a gap on the bottom row on the right. (Based on the renders on page 1).

Is it possible to support both boards? The EXENT community is badly in need of replacement PCBs.

Mcnos · « **Reply #79 on:** Sun, 06 October 2019, 17:47:04 »

Quote from: alexfry on Sun, 06 October 2019, 15:42:35

Actually is this compatible with the EXENT?

I understand the originals were identical between the two boards, but this seems to be missing the key on the top right and has a gap on the bottom row on the right. (Based on the renders on page 1).

Is it possible to support both boards? The EXENT community is badly in need of replacement PCBs.

If it has any value, the original 910 PCB has a slot of a switch in the blocker but it's not used.

alexfry · « **Reply #80 on:** Sun, 06 October 2019, 20:47:33 »

Quote from: Mcnos on Sun, 06 October 2019, 17:47:04

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If it has any value, the original 910 PCB has a slot of a switch in the blocker but it's not used.

According to this https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2799758#msg2799758 post by quadcube, the original 910 and EXENT PCBs are the same “electrical and mechanical” design, but the same does not appear to be true of this replacement design.

fruitofconfusion · « **Reply #81 on:** Sun, 06 October 2019, 23:42:23 »

If this could work as an Exent replacement as well, it would be an instant buy for me.

Are there details as to why it might (not) work?

reconsiderit · « **Reply #82 on:** Tue, 08 October 2019, 00:37:11 »

Quote from: fruitofconfusion on Sun, 06 October 2019, 23:42:23

If this could work as an Exent replacement as well, it would be an instant buy for me.

Are there details as to why it might (not) work?

At the moment, this has no compat for the key under the 910 blocker. Extent has a key there.

If you guys can confirm that the 910 PCB is the same (save for the corner blocker) I can ask the designer to add compat for it which is just another switch under where the 910 blocker is.

vegs · « **Reply #83 on:** Tue, 08 October 2019, 07:52:58 »

Quote from: reconsiderit on Tue, 08 October 2019, 00:37:11

Quote from: fruitofconfusion on Sun, 06 October 2019, 23:42:23
If this could work as an Exent replacement as well, it would be an instant buy for me.

Are there details as to why it might (not) work?

At the moment, this has no compat for the key under the 910 blocker. Extent has a key there.

If you guys can confirm that the 910 PCB is the same (save for the corner blocker) I can ask the designer to add compat for it which is just another switch under where the 910 blocker is.

I recently got a 910 RE which came with an original 910 plate and a Exent PCB. I had no issues building it.

LightningXI · « **Reply #84 on:** Tue, 08 October 2019, 10:29:10 »

Quote from: vegs on Tue, 08 October 2019, 07:52:58

Quote from: reconsiderit on Tue, 08 October 2019, 00:37:11
Quote from: fruitofconfusion on Sun, 06 October 2019, 23:42:23
If this could work as an Exent replacement as well, it would be an instant buy for me.

Are there details as to why it might (not) work?

At the moment, this has no compat for the key under the 910 blocker. Extent has a key there.

If you guys can confirm that the 910 PCB is the same (save for the corner blocker) I can ask the designer to add compat for it which is just another switch under where the 910 blocker is.
I recently got a 910 RE which came with an original 910 plate and a Exent PCB. I had no issues building it.

This was the case for me as well.

otanishock · « **Reply #85 on:** Tue, 08 October 2019, 11:35:40 »

Quote from: reconsiderit on Tue, 08 October 2019, 00:37:11

If you guys can confirm that the 910 PCB is the same (save for the corner blocker) I can ask the designer to add compat for it which is just another switch under where the 910 blocker is.

If you want to make it Exent-compatible, my instinct is that you have to rework the bottom row too. Right now you have blank space for the half u blocker to the left of the arrow cluster which Exent does not have.

LightningXI · « **Reply #86 on:** Tue, 08 October 2019, 11:38:19 »

Quote from: otanishock on Tue, 08 October 2019, 11:35:40

Quote from: reconsiderit on Tue, 08 October 2019, 00:37:11

If you guys can confirm that the 910 PCB is the same (save for the corner blocker) I can ask the designer to add compat for it which is just another switch under where the 910 blocker is.
If you want to make it Exent-compatible, my instinct is that you have to rework the bottom row too. Right now you have blank space for the half u blocker to the left of the arrow cluster which Exent does not have.

This is probably right - from how I see it on the pic in the OP, the current state of the PCB accounts for a right-side 0.5u blocker, but not for an unblocked bottom row. So that'd have to change in addition to the top right corner key.

Dimension-wise, however, it does look like the EXENT PCB fits the 910, so the reverse might be applicable as well.

Traveler · « **Reply #87 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 14:31:26 »

Quote from: otanishock on Tue, 08 October 2019, 11:35:40

If you want to make it Exent-compatible, my instinct is that you have to rework the bottom row too. Right now you have blank space for the half u blocker to the left of the arrow cluster which Exent does not have.

As an EXENT owner following this thread, that is definitely an issue that goes through my mind. For me personally that 0.5 U blocker is actually a bigger issue than the top right key. I think it would be easy to find something that visually replaces that corner, but finding/rigging something to visually replace the 0.5 U blocker a the bottom will take some work.

To me though all of that is just visual issues that I'm willing to work around. As long as the PCB fits in the case and plays nicely with most of the switch plate I'll be happy. And from what I can tell the TGR 910 PCB should meet those two criteria. I'll willing to buy one and see, at least.

alexfry · « **Reply #88 on:** Sat, 12 October 2019, 03:14:03 »

I know this could be seen as a bit of a rude thread derail (apologies reconsiderit), but for the EXENT crowd, I feel I should mention that there is now a GB up for a re-run of EXENT PCBs by quadcube.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102878.0

Should mean there is less of a need for sourcing odd spacers for us EXENT people, and less of a demand for adding complexity to a 910 specific board as is being discussed here.

(Again, sorry if this is out of line)

reconsiderit · « **Reply #89 on:** Sun, 13 October 2019, 01:19:42 »

If its going to be reworked, I'll ask the designer to add the non-blocked bottom row compatibility. There's not a horrible much amount of complexity in there as there aren't any conflicting key positions between the two boards. If I've correctly looked things over, the PCB should be able to accommodate both the 910 bottom rows and all the extent bottom row options

liangalv · « **Reply #90 on:** Sun, 13 October 2019, 15:27:47 »

Any plans for alternative plate materials?

vegs · « **Reply #91 on:** Sun, 10 November 2019, 12:04:40 »

Any news?

romevi · « **Reply #92 on:** Mon, 16 December 2019, 17:03:01 »

Any news?

reconsiderit · « **Reply #93 on:** Wed, 25 December 2019, 04:15:01 »

Shipping out the last Southpaw 65 boards this week and am working on getting southpaw full size redone and sorted out.

Should be running it in January along with Jubi. Delivery most likely after CNY.

lamenthe · « **Reply #94 on:** Thu, 02 January 2020, 19:43:02 »

Yess!!!

vegs · « **Reply #95 on:** Fri, 03 January 2020, 00:30:30 »

Nice!

CherryTeam · « **Reply #96 on:** Fri, 03 January 2020, 01:19:48 »

Very nice bro ! GL

reconsiderit · « **Reply #97 on:** Wed, 08 January 2020, 04:02:56 »

Going to be finalizing plate files and checking things over this week.

GB most likely next week or the week after.

dantambok · « **Reply #98 on:** Wed, 08 January 2020, 07:32:39 »

LightningXI · « **Reply #99 on:** Fri, 10 January 2020, 07:42:25 »

Quote from: reconsiderit on Wed, 08 January 2020, 04:02:56

Going to be finalizing plate files and checking things over this week.

GB most likely next week or the week after.

Hype. Can't wait for a poly plate and extra PCB.

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Author Topic: [IC] TGR 910 PCBs and Plates (Read 45224 times)