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Offline jcoffin1981

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Cleaning off factory lube
« on: Fri, 23 July 2021, 22:27:00 »
What do you guys use to clean factory lube from switches.  Sometimes switches will come inconsistently lubed or with a grease that is too thick and you will want to re-lube them yourself.  I have found that Ronsonol lighter fluid does an amazing job at breaking down most oils and grease.  Soak the parts for a bit and scrub with a toothbrush.  Is there go-to method used in the keyboard hobby? I have never heard it mentioned actually.
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Offline pome

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Re: Cleaning off factory lube
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 26 July 2021, 06:29:09 »
You can use isopropyl alcohol and a q-tip to clean off most of the lube decently, if you do then you should be careful around the leaf. 

If you don't feel comfortable using alcohol, warm water and some soap could work pretty well (Water on it's own wont be very good at cleaning off lube because of polar and nonpolar reaction. So you'll have to add soap).

Another method I've seen a lot of people use is an ultrasonic cleaner, now this might be overkill but if you have access to one it's worth a shot.


Offline Leslieann

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Re: Cleaning off factory lube
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 26 July 2021, 23:03:56 »
If it's silicone, which most is, have fun. Silicone does not clean up easily. You can use alcohol, whatever, truth is you won't really get it completely clean. It may look clean, it may feel clean to the touch but it is not clean and if you happen to use a lube that is incompatible all that work will be for nothing.

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Pome says use q-tips, stop and think about this for a minute, how long it will take to properly clean a switch this way, now multiply that times however many switches, and you still need to lube them when done. Most people YOLO it but if you really want to do this you can buy small ultra sonic cleaners for about $40 which will do it better, faster and a whole lot easier and it would be WELL worth the money rather than trying to clean them by hand.
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Offline jcoffin1981

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Re: Cleaning off factory lube
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 28 July 2021, 21:46:28 »
To clean oil/grease  from a bulk amount of switches, stems, or non-keyboard related items I've used an ultrasonic cleaner successfully.  You also add a small amount of Dawn dish soap.  Besides helping to lift oil and grease, the soap actually allows the the sonic waves to better penetrate the water and get to the nooks and crannies.   I do highly recommend using lighter fluid as a cleaner- just don't put it in the ultrasonic cleaner  :p
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Offline Leslieann

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Re: Cleaning off factory lube
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 29 July 2021, 01:27:39 »
Lighter fluid is petroleum based and will cause micro fractures, soften plastic and more depending on the plastic, ABS in particular can react to it at a micro level.

Another concern is POM, it will do similar in hot water, so be careful with temps in a cleaner.
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Offline jcoffin1981

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Re: Cleaning off factory lube
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 01 August 2021, 03:55:32 »
I am looking for some info on ABS, POM, and PBT reactivity with petroleum distillates and haven't found much.  I've used it before on PBT, but the contact time was brief, and the lighter fluid evaporates VERY quickly.  I will do some more digging. It might be neat experiment to soak some keycaps in lighter fluid for an extended time.  I'm gonna try this.
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Offline Leslieann

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Re: Cleaning off factory lube
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 01 August 2021, 05:47:20 »
PBT is used in automotive connectors and wiring and doesn't typically react to solvents, holds up well to heat and fire.  Best I can tell it doesn't react to petroleum products.

ABS, hot water can cause issues with it softening, boiling water is almost identical to it's TG temp (where it softens), but it can weaken and change shape at temps lower than that... One major problem with ABS is the formula, there are many formulas for it and it can change on a whim. In this case, the amount of Acrylonitrile matters for petroleum, it will struggle without lots and you will usually only find this formulation in specific use cases. If there's no need, manufacturers tend to use the cheapest formulation they can get. After working with it on printers it's one of my least liked plastics to work with these days.

POM is even worse about heat, even the dishwasher can ruin it over time. I have some old black POM handled kitchen knives that look gray there is so many microfractures in them. Similar to ABS, there are several similar formulas and most do not like petroleum products but plays well with alcohol.

Polycarbonate is probably the worst of these to use petroleum products on, tons of things mess up polycarbonate. Ultra violet rays, it's easy to scratch, prone to warping and can lead to problems for people who are in constant contact with it. It's a terrible plastic to use in keyboards.

Sorry, this doesn't answer everything.
Be careful messing with some of these, they can off-gas some pretty nasty stuff.
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