[IC] SA Grey Accent (Colors and Kits updated: 2018.5.25)

[nesi]

Hello folks, I'm really happy to share my recent work.

The main idea was to use grey as accents,
so there is no concrete reference for this set, such as an old terminal keyboard, a specific image, or a character.
I’m just a big fan of deep blue… and I hope you like it.
Since I've hungered for a neat Korean(Hangul, exactly)-legend keycap set, there's Hangul kit as an alternative for alphas.
The idea for the layout is from typewriters and Symbolics Lisp Machine.













Here are the colors I've decided so far:

• alpha base - custom
• alpha legend - BFM
• mod base/accent legend - WA
• accent base - GRY
• mod legend/more grey base - GSZ

The significant change on color is that the base color of modifier is changed from pure white to pink-like white,
which was one of major ideas from the very beginning phase of the design.


Here are my kits.
If you have any suggestion, pease feel free to post! It would be a great help.

[Snappo]

I think you have two pics of the same mod kit. Or is it something I'm not seeing?

[nesi]

I think you have two pics of the same mod kit. Or is it something I'm not seeing?

Oh, you're right. Just changed the picture with the right one.
Thank you for letting me know :-)

[kmba]

Yes please

[LightningXI]

Interested if anything for the Hangul

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[hahihuhei]

Hmm, do we have SA mold for Hangul? Or do we PBT it?

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[nesi]

Hmm, do we have SA mold for Hangul? Or do we PBT it?

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Unfortunately there is no mold for Hangul, but it would be harder to dye-sub them as the legends are lighter than the base.
We need 26 new molds, but price would be reasonable if there's enough GB participants (at least 100, IMO)

[Oblotzky]

Hmm, do we have SA mold for Hangul? Or do we PBT it?

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Unfortunately there is no mold for Hangul, but it would be harder to dye-sub them as the legends are lighter than the base.
We need 26 new molds, but price would be reasonable if there's enough GB participants (at least 100, IMO)

Yeah, about 13$ per person at 100 units. I'm in for one.

[jlee755]

Oh my heavens, Hangul legends in SA? Yes, please!

SA Hyundai  )

[young_won]

Take my money : )

[mudcakehoney]

I really like it, will it have an r3 grey enter to balance the esc and spacebar?

[stu-rem]

Oh my heavens, Hangul legends in SA? Yes, please!

SA Hyundai  )

:-)

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[SolidCactus]

This looks pretty beastly. Lovely colour combo.

[schmoktopus]

I'm in if you are going with signature plastics

[Ricinco]

I love this already. SA is my favourite profile, i like the sublegends and like the colourway too.

[nesi]

Hmm, do we have SA mold for Hangul? Or do we PBT it?

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Unfortunately there is no mold for Hangul, but it would be harder to dye-sub them as the legends are lighter than the base.
We need 26 new molds, but price would be reasonable if there's enough GB participants (at least 100, IMO)

Yeah, about 13$ per person at 100 units. I'm in for one.

Yes. I think it is affordable making in SP.
I'm glad you to see here! I love Oblivion keycaps.

[nesi]

Oh my heavens, Hangul legends in SA? Yes, please!

SA Hyundai  )

That makes sense lol
You want SA Kia with red alphas? )

[nesi]

I'm in if you are going with signature plastics

I also like SP SA keycap shape, and color that they produce.

[rly27]

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[Francisco]

Absolutely! I'm totally in for Hangul - it's about time we had a decent Hangul set! Thanks!!! 

Love the blue - not so crazy about the light grey mods - too stark - almost looks white.
For me - All the mods should be in the darker grey...
The mods that are currently in the darker grey would be great in a contrasting red accent... (Esc, Enter, etc.) 

As regards SP - Please make sure they agree to re-run and fix their legend alignment screw-ups...
I'm so sick of their lack of attention to detail.

[jlee755]

Absolutely! I'm totally in for Hangul - it's about time we had a decent Hangul set! Thanks!!! 

Love the blue - not so crazy about the light grey mods - too stark - almost looks white.
For me - All the mods should be in the darker grey...
The mods that are currently in the darker grey would be great in a contrasting red accent... (Esc, Enter, etc.) 

As regards SP - Please make sure they agree to re-run and fix their legend alignment screw-ups...
I'm so sick of their lack of attention to detail.

Isn't that just DSA Royal Navy?

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[FoC_Tow]

Not usually a fan of blue sets but this looks dope.
Color me interested =)

[BobCarltheThird]

I just want the Hangul legends to be honest.

[oh_chesteroni]

In for sure. would love to see a "dark grey" kit or just more dark grey, as you mentioned.

Edit: have you considered dark grey mods with light grey accents (enter, spacebar, esc, etc...)

[BlackInk]

im in for this

[monkt]

This looks really nice.


Most of the mods look white to me, or close to it. And I actually think that looks really good with the blue. It's a great contrast. And mods like that would mix so well with any number of colored alphas from other SA sets. That's something I would very much like to have.

[dc_in_sf]

Blue Keycaps in SA are my weakness, would be in for a set with plain alphas (Hangul isn't my thing). Like the white/grey combo on the mods 

[nesi]

Any possibility for UK-ISO and Icon Arrows? Overall, great design!

Of course I should put ISO kits and icon arrows (with both white and grey).
Thanks for letting me know!

Absolutely! I'm totally in for Hangul - it's about time we had a decent Hangul set! Thanks!!! 

Love the blue - not so crazy about the light grey mods - too stark - almost looks white.
For me - All the mods should be in the darker grey...
The mods that are currently in the darker grey would be great in a contrasting red accent... (Esc, Enter, etc.) 

As regards SP - Please make sure they agree to re-run and fix their legend alignment screw-ups...
I'm so sick of their lack of attention to detail.

Ah, that would be a great idea. I will try renders with a darker one.
Also, I'll put darker grey color chips on my cart )

I didn't know there's such an issue!
Are those legends tilted or rotated?

In for sure. would love to see a "dark grey" kit or just more dark grey, as you mentioned.

Edit: have you considered dark grey mods with light grey accents (enter, spacebar, esc, etc...)

I also love that idea! So we'll have two different modifiers for one alphas )
At the same time, I'm not sure we could make it happen since modifiers kits are really expensive (more than I expected) and fall sharply in proportion to the number of participants.

Or maybe it would be possible to make "darker grey accent kit" ?

[oh_chesteroni]

In for sure. would love to see a "dark grey" kit or just more dark grey, as you mentioned.

Edit: have you considered dark grey mods with light grey accents (enter, spacebar, esc, etc...)

I also love that idea! So we'll have two different modifiers for one alphas )
At the same time, I'm not sure we could make it happen since modifiers kits are really expensive (more than I expected) and fall sharply in proportion to the number of participants.

Or maybe it would be possible to make "darker grey accent kit" ?
[/quote]

I'm game for anything with more dark grey! Darker grey accent kit sounds great!


Edit: I suck at quoting.

[gnunin]

Interested Especially if SP

[pixelpusher]

I like the shade of blue and I really like the light gray.  I would prefer to see the modifiers with the same font color as the main blue on the alphas.  Otherwise it just feels like you've mixed keycaps from two different sets.  The modifiers and the alphas seem to have nothing in common to tie them together.  But then again, using blue text for modifier legends would lose a lot of the gray you have which is coming from modifier text.  I'm watching the IC to see where it goes.

[DMacKB]

Looks lovely to me! I especially love the grey accents for the white mods. I could totally handle more grey too like grey 1u backspace to put next to 1u delete on my number row.

The main thing it's missing for me is a 2.25u and 2.75u keys in grey for my split spacebars. They could be either shift keys, blanks (cheap!) or proper convex mind bars. So long as they're grey and r3

[nesi]

I like the shade of blue and I really like the light gray.  I would prefer to see the modifiers with the same font color as the main blue on the alphas.  Otherwise it just feels like you've mixed keycaps from two different sets.  The modifiers and the alphas seem to have nothing in common to tie them together.  But then again, using blue text for modifier legends would lose a lot of the gray you have which is coming from modifier text.  I'm watching the IC to see where it goes.

That makes sense.
As the main blue of the alphas would be custom color, how about using deep blue like BBI or BFU?
I"m thinking WA as a main white of the modifiers, so the deep blue legends on them would seem darker.
I did some experiment to decide modifiers colors.


custom (same as alphas base)


GSZ (warm dark grey)


BO (lighter blue)


GD (cool light grey)


BFU (darker blue)


All renders are based on color code from https://deskthority.net/wiki/Signature_Plastics_ABS_colours.
Please note that these are just renders with 6500K light, and they may look different under different environment (and also depends on monitors).
At this moment, I think GD looks great with grey accents, whereas GSZ looks calm and BFU looks unique.

Here is a color scheme that I consider provisionally:

• alphas-base custom
• alphas-legend BFM
• modifiers-base WA
• grey accent-base GRY
• grey accent-legend WA

[yap68]

I like the shade of blue and I really like the light gray.  I would prefer to see the modifiers with the same font color as the main blue on the alphas.  Otherwise it just feels like you've mixed keycaps from two different sets.  The modifiers and the alphas seem to have nothing in common to tie them together.  But then again, using blue text for modifier legends would lose a lot of the gray you have which is coming from modifier text.  I'm watching the IC to see where it goes.

I think the modifiers look exactly fine at this moment. Blue text will make it looks like another ordinary keyset.

[oh_chesteroni]

If you do decide to go blue legend on mods then make sure to render them on the darker grey accent mods to see how they look with those.

[nesi]

Looks lovely to me! I especially love the grey accents for the white mods. I could totally handle more grey too like grey 1u backspace to put next to 1u delete on my number row.

The main thing it's missing for me is a 2.25u and 2.75u keys in grey for my split spacebars. They could be either shift keys, blanks (cheap!) or proper convex mind bars. So long as they're grey and r3

Thanks!
So you want grey 1u backspace along with grey 1u delete? )

Ah, yes. I should put split spacebar kits, but still making kits moving keycaps one kit to another.
I'll show you after kits are settled!

[nesi]

If you do decide to go blue legend on mods then make sure to render them on the darker grey accent mods to see how they look with those.

I think it would be better to keep white legend on accent mods, since the blue color for keycaps is not as bright as white, which may make the accent vague.
But I'll try if I go blue legend and arrange the balance with grey accent if necessary ) Thanks!

[Cods]

Looks cool.

[yap68]

Second R1 row in grey like R5 Add? That will increase some cost.

[nesi]

Second R1 row in grey like R5 Add? That will increase some cost.

Do you mean F1~F12 with all grey would be better instead of just adding F5~F8?
(like this kit?)

I'll add that on more grey kit )

[yap68]

I mean the whole row below F1. You can check on the SA R5 Add keyset for some ideas. I think some of us might not like it but I find it quite interesting.

[kmba]

Keep the legend colors as they were. Looks better than any blue.

[nesi]

Hi, just set the colors provisionally, and kit update. :-)

Here are the colors I've decided so far:

• alpha base - custom
• alpha legend - BFM
• mod base/accent legend - WA
• accent base - GRY
• mod legend/more grey base - GSZ

The significant change on color is that the base color of modifier is changed from pure white to pink-like white,
which was one of major ideas from the very beginning phase of the design.





Since white and grey look very different under different environment,
I will order color samples to check with my eyes to compare ones that are chosen and others on the bench.



The kits are refined with advice and suggestion from this and other threads. Thank you all!
If you have any suggestion, please post below

[nesi]

I'm game for anything with more dark grey! Darker grey accent kit sounds great!


Edit: I suck at quoting.

Any possibility for UK-ISO and Icon Arrows? Overall, great design!

I really like it, will it have an r3 grey enter to balance the esc and spacebar?

Looks lovely to me! I especially love the grey accents for the white mods. I could totally handle more grey too like grey 1u backspace to put next to 1u delete on my number row.

The main thing it's missing for me is a 2.25u and 2.75u keys in grey for my split spacebars. They could be either shift keys, blanks (cheap!) or proper convex mind bars. So long as they're grey and r3

Hey, I've updated new kit reflecting your suggestions

[Francisco]

You need dark grey modifiers - (same as "Contrast" grey).

[jlee755]

I like the white change; it's not as strong on the eyes which I think I like more but I agree in that it'll be important to see the samples for yourself against different backgrounds.

[nesi]

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[Baron]

oh this looks great, id love to pair hangul with some dasher mods

[monkeyplusplus]

Ortho kit plz plz? <3

[G1LL3Y]

I’m down for a set. I really like SA set, but I hope that SP can properly produce the keycaps without weld lines. The past two SP sets I have purchased had some weld lines in them which is a little frustrating for the price they charge.

[nesi]

Here's a major update.

I changed dimensions of Hangul legends. From almost 100 images I've made, it looks better with thicker fonts.
Also, there's some subtle changes on vowel stroke length. Images on the top thread will be replaced with these.












I'm waiting for color chips from SP, going to gather more suggestion about kits, and do more base works for the interest check. Thanks!

Edit: the grey color for HHKB layout was different from the others, I changed it

[nesi]

Ortho kit plz plz? <3

Since I know almost nothing about ortho-users' preference, A friend of mine may give me some hints to make a ortholiner kit.
I hope there's enough interest <3

oh this looks great, id love to pair hangul with some dasher mods

That would be a great idea! I hope I would see it

I mean the whole row below F1. You can check on the SA R5 Add keyset for some ideas. I think some of us might not like it but I find it quite interesting.

You mean like this one? https://imgur.com/a/ravg6i4
I'm very interested in this idea.
However I'm afraid it would not be appropriate to this project, since there will be two alphas with 26 new moulds.
I will try it somewhere. (Maybe next project?)

You need dark grey modifiers - (same as "Contrast" grey).

Hi! Thanks for suggestion.
I tried it, but it seems not very harmonious for me;
I feel like the dark grey modifiers suppress alphas as well as grey accents.

I’m down for a set. I really like SA set, but I hope that SP can properly produce the keycaps without weld lines. The past two SP sets I have purchased had some weld lines in them which is a little frustrating for the price they charge.

Hmm. Actually, I have the same experience.
When I first got Godspeed keycaps, almost every bigger keycaps have weld lines on top as well as side.
However I like the shape of the SA keycaps of SP, which is quite different from that of Maxkey's,
and Maxkey also have its problems: not very well reproduced color, absence of variety keycap moulds, etc.
So... I'm so sad that I have no choice. I also hope SP produce the keycaps properly.

[Baron]

have you considered just going with BO for the blue?  it might save some time and money instead of doing a custom color

[nesi]

have you considered just going with BO for the blue?  it might save some time and money instead of doing a custom color

Yes, I've tried SP's other blue colors,
but they seem to make the atmosphere quite different from what I tried to make.

[Francisco]

This looks really great to me - does anybody else like these darker mods?

[Parva Ovis]

I definitely prefer the white mods with light grey accent; the dark modifiers are nice but kind of bland to me.

[jlee755]

have you considered just going with BO for the blue?  it might save some time and money instead of doing a custom color

Yes, I've tried SP's other blue colors,
but they seems to make the atmosphere quite different from what I tried to make.

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This one!!

[hhkbp2]

Looks really nice. Do you have any idea to provide some novelties keys on Korean style/custom to match the Hangul?

[nesi]

Looks really nice. Do you have any idea to provide some novelties keys on Korean style/custom to match the Hangul?

I don't have any idea at this moment.
Let's consider Hangul kit as novelty instead :-)

[Francisco]

Any news on this? Will there be a GB?

[oh_chesteroni]

Any news on this? Will there be a GB?

I hope so! I really dig this set.

[Francisco]

Looks like this is dead... what a tease!

[mudcakehoney]

Please don’t let this die

[nesi]

Please don’t let this die

Looks like this is dead... what a tease!

Sorry, I was on a holiday for a month, and couldn't update it :-)
I will keep this kit alive, but I should look far ahead.
Right now, I have to think how I can make this happen: vendor, etc..

[young_won]

Ortho kit plz~

[adamcobabe]

Interested!

[SongJinGi]

interested! but looks like it's dead.. hopefully, we can get this revived at some point!!!

[Zilleon]

Interested if it gets a Colevrak kit

[mimalik]

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This looks really great to me - does anybody else like these darker mods?

This, dark grey mods brings out the blue, very classic; Plz plz have both white and dark grey full mods set for TKL n Numpad.

[mimalik]

Suggestion: alt blue F keys for contrast b.w white/grey and blue.

[5inn3d-]

looking forward to this GB if it happens.

suggestion: mayb you could offer the alphas in 1 of the greys? i would be all over that!

[Francisco]

What's happening Nesi? We really need this! I'll gladly take over if you've lost interest... 
Maxkey did a great job with Calm Depths - I highly recommend them for this one

What say you?

[japanitrat]

SP or bust

[5inn3d-]

I neeeed this... ASAP..

[beekey]

SP please, the Maxkey finish just looks cheap IMHO.
And waiting times are as bad as SP. Calm Depths took a year.

[nasp]

Looking forward to an update. This set is gorgeous

[AaronR]

would like SP and Mac OSX keys please

[jay_seo]

My favorite go to color combo plus a Hangeul layout that doesn't look cheap?

I'd literally throw my whole wallet at you good sir. 

[lazyfart]

Looks good! I'm in. Hopefully SP won't take 10 years to deliver....

[AaronR]

Is this dead? Haven’t had an update in ages.

[Francisco]

We need this so bad! Hope the guy wakes up from his coma.

[Tom_Kazansky]

seeing MAXKEY York Chan 2600, I think we can totally run this set with MAXKEY
the wait time for York is pretty sick:

Group purchase starts on January 17, 2019 and ends on February 10, 2019
The expected delivery date is February 28, 2019

back to Grey Accent: even with MAXKEY, I think the Hangul kit might be expensive.

[raptorzoz]

Interested. would an eu proxy be possible?

[sl70309]

was GB ended?

[William_S_Jones]

Nice, I’m interested. Any plans for a universal 40 kit?


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[duxbridge]

Nice colour combination! Looking forward to the GMK or JTK Version

[vicissitude]

Navy blue is so cool.
I think SP would do this well,but I'm a little afraid that Maxkey couldn't show this perfectly.

[William_S_Jones]

Navy blue is so cool.
I think SP would do this well,but I'm a little afraid that Maxkey couldn't show this perfectly.

Nah, I believe MaxKey can!


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[hhkbp2]

Any update?

[AaronR]

DEAD! OP hasn't been on since march