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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 16 February 2016, 11:28:48 »
no altgr ,nice i'm in

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 16 February 2016, 12:10:22 »
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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 16 February 2016, 17:01:27 »
Just stick with icon mods and leave out ISO, I feel like that is a different pool of people.

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #53 on: Tue, 16 February 2016, 19:00:18 »
I'd be down for some clean icon mods!



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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 16 February 2016, 22:06:15 »
I'd be more down for a full white on black set, but down for this regardless.

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 03:00:06 »
Iso AltGr represent a siginificant number.
I'm not interested in sets without altGr
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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 03:28:52 »
I think we don't need R4 control, alt. Becase every keyset have had. We can have lower price

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #57 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 03:37:20 »
is there a wob gmk base set?

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #58 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 03:57:15 »
the story of this IC:

- dumbass ansi "purists" want textless ISO mods, refuse to include the remaining 2 ISO caps, block any potencial ISO buyers (who aren't few btw), clueless and perfect IC!  :)) :))
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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #59 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 04:20:27 »
the story of this IC:

- dumbass ansi "purists" want textless ISO mods, refuse to include the remaining 2 ISO caps, block any potencial ISO buyers (who aren't few btw), clueless and perfect IC!  :)) :))
agree  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #60 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 04:22:44 »
the story of this IC:

- dumbass ansi "purists" want textless ISO mods, refuse to include the remaining 2 ISO caps, block any potencial ISO buyers (who aren't few btw), clueless and perfect IC!  :)) :))

woah woah chill.

i'm still looking at what keys that might be redundant that people wouldn't need, like esc, tilde and such

which 2 iso caps you mean? left shift and iso enter? or strg + altgr?

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #61 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 04:25:38 »
1.25u shift and enter, yes.

the AltGr is only a matter of legend, but it can be also included (like it was in all @Ivan modifier GBs - CMYK, Purple mods, etc)
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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #62 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 04:28:35 »

woah woah chill.

i'm still looking at what keys that might be redundant that people wouldn't need, like esc, tilde and such

which 2 iso caps you mean? left shift and iso enter? or strg + altgr?

Agreed. It's a great initiative and I like the discussion so far.

STRG would be redundant, as there are an incredible amount of them out there. Me and other cherry collectors have boatloads of them.

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #63 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 04:30:18 »
iso is still relevant in the keyboard world?

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #64 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 04:33:02 »

woah woah chill.

i'm still looking at what keys that might be redundant that people wouldn't need, like esc, tilde and such

which 2 iso caps you mean? left shift and iso enter? or strg + altgr?

Agreed. It's a great initiative and I like the discussion so far.

STRG would be redundant, as there are an incredible amount of them out there. Me and other cherry collectors have boatloads of them.

Thank you :)

Can I have some strg and altgrs? haha

Iso AltGr represent a siginificant number.
I'm not interested in sets without altGr

Okay, so no strg but include one altgr?

if we remove a few redundant keys then we might be able to include this in.





Also guys, another thing, would you guys still be interested if there's no control, alt and winkey? If there's lotsa people (maybe >80%) doesn't want or need those keys, we can exclude them from this set and make this set cheaper as well.

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #65 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 04:34:13 »
STRG would be redundant, as there are an incredible amount of them out there. Me and other cherry collectors have boatloads of them.

no one wants STRG legend, as it's german and not ISO. the AltGr on the other hand it's "a must" on ISO board.

iso is still relevant in the keyboard world?

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #66 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 04:36:10 »
iso is still relevant in the keyboard world?

I believe so, mostly the EU region though.

off topic, you've asked about the PC stickers in /r/mm? if no one wants them with the PC stickers then i'll let you know.

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #67 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 04:39:21 »
Also guys, another thing, would you guys still be interested if there's no control, alt and winkey?

Not as interested (especially without the 1u and 1.25u winkey) It's a mod pack after all =)

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #68 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 04:39:58 »
Also guys, another thing, would you guys still be interested if there's no control, alt and winkey? If there's lotsa people (maybe >80%) doesn't want or need those keys, we can exclude them from this set and make this set cheaper as well.

If you take that out, the interest on the mod kit it drop to ZERO. People are basically looking for moogle kits, which are last row/capslock/spacebar... so you should included beige/dolch/WoB 6.25u spacebars as well   :thumb:
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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #69 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 04:49:05 »
Also guys, another thing, would you guys still be interested if there's no control, alt and winkey? If there's lotsa people (maybe >80%) doesn't want or need those keys, we can exclude them from this set and make this set cheaper as well.

If you take that out, the interest on the mod kit it drop to ZERO. People are basically looking for moogle kits, which are last row/capslock/spacebar... so you should included beige/dolch/WoB 6.25u spacebars as well   :thumb:

maybe a separate buy for spacebars? since people can always buy the spacebars to stockup without buying the mods

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #70 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 05:33:12 »
Separate spacebar will be better idea.

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #71 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 05:45:59 »
I'd be down for one of each if the ISO keys (shift, enter, AltGr) make it.

Not as interested if the bottom row caps are left out, not fussed about spacebars either as I'm a wierdo that likes 6u anyway :D

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #72 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 07:50:03 »
1.5 modifiers in white on black, double shot and in cherry profile are very rare, I know only one old keyboard that has them. Only those two, or three key caps, if you decide to include the Alt Gr, will be the piece of resistance to open my wallet; actually, I have most of the other keys in the sets, but these ones. For the keyboard connoisseur, even if they do not use these key caps, their inclusion should make them a must have. Of course, many of us just want a moogle to put some key sets to use, that is also an acceptable interest, but three short key caps will not make the difference in the final cost.

If the 1.25u modifiers are taken out of the offer, I will buy them anyway, as long as they have the 1.5u modifiers. The ISO enter in the other hand is an interesting key cap, that I would be very happy to pay for, even if I do not use it, I want to have some at hand, just in case I want to give ISO enter a try, again. The aesthetics is nice, I am not sure about the ergonomics, that I think is far better on the ANSI layout.

This would be my ideal minimum:

RowSize LegendQtyNote
11Esc1
11~`1
11\|1
12Backspace1
21.5Tab1
21.5\|1Backspace side printed
31.75Lock1
31.75Lock1Stepped
32.25Enter1
41.75Shift1
42.25Shift1
42.75Shift1
41Windows2
41Fn1
41.5Alt2
41.5Control2
41.5Alt Gr1
2,31.5/1.25Enter1ISO standard Enter
« Last Edit: Wed, 17 February 2016, 08:11:12 by ideus »

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #73 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 10:03:42 »


imo this mod kit is great, although it's missing Altgr R4 (1.25u and 1.5u) and possibly ISO enter (no text, just like on german boards)
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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #74 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 10:14:06 »
Definitely interested in this for HHKBish layout support.

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #75 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 15:51:53 »
Proposed kit looks pretty good to me, consider me in.
Separate spacebar buy would be great.
Another vote for HHKB support, split backspace coverage and R3 1.75 Control please.

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #76 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 17:04:19 »
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« Reply #77 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 17:18:57 »
Added to the GMK Database

I really want these sets to be actually manufactured; but, isn't it too soon to add them to the database?

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #78 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 17:51:05 »
Added to the GMK Database

I really want these sets to be actually manufactured; but, isn't it too soon to add them to the database?

There's an Interest Check section in the database, helps me keep track of what's happening. I was going to put some of the IC renders up there as well, that way if they move to GB then I just move the code... but we'll see.

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #79 on: Wed, 17 February 2016, 20:55:46 »
Added to the GMK Database

I really want these sets to be actually manufactured; but, isn't it too soon to add them to the database?

There's an Interest Check section in the database, helps me keep track of what's happening. I was going to put some of the IC renders up there as well, that way if they move to GB then I just move the code... but we'll see.

Alright then. It seems you will be pretty busy this year, with all the sets that are already in the works.

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 18 February 2016, 08:56:20 »
Also guys, another thing, would you guys still be interested if there's no control, alt and winkey? If there's lotsa people (maybe >80%) doesn't want or need those keys, we can exclude them from this set and make this set cheaper as well.

If you take that out, the interest on the mod kit it drop to ZERO. People are basically looking for moogle kits, which are last row/capslock/spacebar... so you should included beige/dolch/WoB 6.25u spacebars as well   :thumb:

If you look up in the IC, myself and plenty of others were interested in a textless mod replacement kit, without a bunch of bloat like Ctrl/Alt/Win + ISO + Spacebars.

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« Reply #81 on: Thu, 18 February 2016, 10:00:36 »
Added to the GMK Database

I really want these sets to be actually manufactured; but, isn't it too soon to add them to the database?

There's an Interest Check section in the database, helps me keep track of what's happening. I was going to put some of the IC renders up there as well, that way if they move to GB then I just move the code... but we'll see.

Alright then. It seems you will be pretty busy this year, with all the sets that are already in the works.

not really, it takes 1 second to add the link in the IC section. Whether they go to GB or not is a different story.

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #82 on: Thu, 18 February 2016, 11:07:12 »
Also guys, another thing, would you guys still be interested if there's no control, alt and winkey? If there's lotsa people (maybe >80%) doesn't want or need those keys, we can exclude them from this set and make this set cheaper as well.

If you take that out, the interest on the mod kit it drop to ZERO. People are basically looking for moogle kits, which are last row/capslock/spacebar... so you should included beige/dolch/WoB 6.25u spacebars as well   :thumb:

If you look up in the IC, myself and plenty of others were interested in a textless mod replacement kit, without a bunch of bloat like Ctrl/Alt/Win + ISO + Spacebars.

Seriously, if you want moogle kits... get moogle kits. I'm fine either way with the CTRL/ALT/WIN but Iso and spacebars I'm not about.
    

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #83 on: Thu, 18 February 2016, 11:26:08 »
The sets are ok as they are already, there is no reason to take things out, nor in at this point, just get quotations and run the GB, only actual demand will tell the final story. We have learned over time that even some very hyped buys had not reached MoQ, while others with lower profiles did.

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #84 on: Thu, 18 February 2016, 11:46:08 »
I'd be in for a Beige set. I'd also vote for a separate space bar order.

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #85 on: Fri, 19 February 2016, 02:16:59 »
Alright, after gathering data from the feedback in this IC, I'm gonna get another set of renders based on the keys below:

HHKB set:

Size            Profile         Key             
1.5u          R2          Backspace with the special icon
1u          R1          Pipe / Backslash

Main set:

Size          Profile          Key         
1u          R1          Escape         
1u          R1          Tilde         
2u          R1          Icon Backspace
1.5u          R2          Icon Tab         
1.5u          R2          Pipe / Backslash
1.75u          R3          Icon Caps Lock - Full
1.75u          R3          Icon Caps Lock - Stepped
2.25u          R3          Icon Enter         
ISO          R2 R3          Icon Enter - ISO
1.25u          R4          Icon Shift - ISO
1.75u          R4          Icon Shift
2.25u          R4          Icon Shift         
2.75u          R4          Icon Shift
1u          R4          2x Win         
1.25u          R4          2x Win         
1.25u          R4          Menu         
1u          R4          FN         
1.25u          R4          2x Control
1.25u          R4          2x Alt         
1.5u          R4          2x Control
1.5u          R4          2x Alt         
1.5u          R4          AltGr         
1.25u          R4          AltGr         

Spacebar:

Profile      Size     
R4      7u     
R4      6.25u     

If the setup above looks alright then I'll get updated renders
« Last Edit: Fri, 19 February 2016, 02:27:38 by zennasyndroxx »

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #86 on: Fri, 19 February 2016, 02:34:59 »
Alright, after gathering data from the feedback in this IC, I'm gonna get another set of renders based on the keys below:

HHKB set:

Size            Profile         Key             
1.5u          R2          Backspace with the special icon
1u          R1          Pipe / Backslash

Main set:

Size          Profile          Key         
1u          R1          Escape         
1u          R1          Tilde         
2u          R1          Icon Backspace
1.5u          R2          Icon Tab         
1.5u          R2          Pipe / Backslash
1.75u          R3          Icon Caps Lock - Full
1.75u          R3          Icon Caps Lock - Stepped
2.25u          R3          Icon Enter         
ISO          R2 R3          Icon Enter - ISO
1.25u          R4          Icon Shift - ISO
1.75u          R4          Icon Shift
2.25u          R4          Icon Shift         
2.75u          R4          Icon Shift
1u          R4          2x Win         
1.25u          R4          2x Win         
1.25u          R4          Menu         
1u          R4          FN         
1.25u          R4          2x Control
1.25u          R4          2x Alt         
1.5u          R4          2x Control
1.5u          R4          2x Alt         
1.5u          R4          AltGr         
1.25u          R4          AltGr         

Spacebar:

Profile      Size     
R4      7u     
R4      6.25u     

If the setup above looks alright then I'll get updated renders

I would buy a few main sets in WOB and Beige. Very interested.
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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #87 on: Fri, 19 February 2016, 03:04:34 »

I would buy a few main sets in WOB and Beige. Very interested.
Same, looks spot on to me.

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #88 on: Fri, 19 February 2016, 03:29:49 »
hopefully with this much keys in the main pack the price wouldn't be expensive.


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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #89 on: Fri, 19 February 2016, 03:34:07 »
seems good, 7u spacebars aren't needed as people already have that in their OG sets.

I do vote to include Dolch colorway as well... it's as important as the beige or wob ;) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37760.0)
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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #90 on: Fri, 19 February 2016, 03:39:59 »
seems good, 7u spacebars aren't needed as people already have that in their OG sets.

I do vote to include Dolch colorway as well... it's as important as the beige or wob ;) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37760.0)

the spacebars will be in a separate pack though. because some might need extra spacebar replacements but don't need the set.

I'm thinking of these colors:

black on beige
white on black
dolch
skidata (for those who currently owns charred orange set)
olivetti

i might not run all at once. maybe we'll do stage by stage? this way, it won't hurt your wallet as much and i don't have to declare (value) a lot at one go, therefore lesser to no import tax for those who's in EU

but still, I'll get the renders all at once so we have a bigger picture

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #91 on: Fri, 19 February 2016, 04:06:44 »
colored spacebars will be available as well? p.e, orange V2 for skidata, blue V4 for olivetti
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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #92 on: Fri, 19 February 2016, 04:47:22 »
I would keep it small to reduce the price so to buy different sets in the same group buy.

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #93 on: Fri, 19 February 2016, 05:11:47 »
Can anyone take a picture of Olivetti mods on classic beige? I'd love to see how that would look.

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #94 on: Fri, 19 February 2016, 05:13:36 »
Can anyone take a picture of Olivetti mods on classic beige? I'd love to see how that would look.
OG Olivetti? They are a bit darker than the Classic beige grey mods.
Anyway if you wanna see OG Olivetti on OG Beige I'll post some pictures later today.
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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #95 on: Fri, 19 February 2016, 05:15:33 »
I would keep it small to reduce the price so to buy different sets in the same group buy.

or maybe we run a set at a time? would that work well?

also, post the pictures here :D

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #96 on: Fri, 19 February 2016, 05:18:28 »
I would keep it small to reduce the price so to buy different sets in the same group buy.

or maybe we run a set at a time? would that work well?
No, that would work much better.  :thumb:

also, post the pictures here :D
In a couple of hours for sure.
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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #97 on: Fri, 19 February 2016, 07:19:29 »
I would keep it small to reduce the price so to buy different sets in the same group buy.

or maybe we run a set at a time? would that work well?

also, post the pictures here :D

If you keep them together that may save some tents of dollars in shipping costs for internationals, if people is getting more than one, that is the only sensible choice, you should have all of them, as modifiers they can be mixed and matched with many other alphas, even if you do not have a beige of a black, but who doesn't have at least one classic OG black and an OG beige? any serious keyboard aficionado should have at least one of each.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #98 on: Fri, 19 February 2016, 07:20:27 »
Definitely interested in Classic Beige

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Re: [IC] GMK icon mods for various sets
« Reply #99 on: Fri, 19 February 2016, 07:43:05 »
OG Olivetti mods on OG Beige alphas.






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