[GB] Delta Blues - Alps DCS keyset from SP - GB in now live on PMK

[intelli78]

Just want to say this is good **** and I will buy a set no matter what to support the cause.

[tyvar1]

Delta Blues (Black based SoWaRe) will be rocking with the combo of GreenTea SmallFry Kit on my JD40 

Language packs would be awesome with SW Nordic ÅÄÖ keys 

[CPTBadAss]

The JD40 doesn't support Alps as far as I know. How are you going to get Green Tea and this Alps set on there?

[tyvar1]

The JD40 doesn't support Alps as far as I know. How are you going to get Green Tea and this Alps set on there?

Wopsie, i missed that it was Alps  thank you for the warning!

[mclarenman01]

This is looking great! I cant wait for this GB! 

[Badwrench]

I'm working on a mockup for the international kit here: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/6495b1a1ae2aa0cf5998e30edd60cba8
Currently it includes DE/DK/SE/NO and I'd like to include IT/FR/UK as well, but I currently don't have the time for that. I used 7bit's Round 5 as a reference, the missing kits are these:

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I'd be very happy if someone else could include these in the mockup. I'll also post this on deskthority, there is a greater international community, I think.

I have no way to do these mockups as I am on an ANSI board with Windows.  For the UK layout, those keys make up the ISO kit. 

If we want to include them, someone will need to put them together so that I can submit them to SP for price quoting.  Thanks. 

[Nuum]

I should have time tomorrow, so I'll finish it then.

[Badwrench]

I should have time tomorrow, so I'll finish it then.

Sounds good.  No rush as i am waiting for official mockups as well.  Thanks.

[Nuum]

I'm terribly sorry, but I didn't manage to do the mockup, I'll try to finish it this week, although it looks like I don't really have time for it. I would be glad if someone else could do it.

[Badwrench]

numiru was kind enough to do some renders with the Cherry font. 

Not the exact sets, but close enough to give you a pretty good idea of how it will look.







I was leaning toward the Win7 logo for the winkeys, but would like some feedback so that we can make the most people happy.

[geniekid]

Thanks numiru

I'd prefer a Win 8 logo but nothing you put on that Win key will stop me from supporting this GB

[deci]

Infinty custom alps board is live on MD right now.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-keyboard-kit

Perfect timing for some custom Alps keysets.

Will buy this regardless, but that White based Soware looks so nice.


Probably mentioned already (sorry if I missed) but can we get an addon with 1.75 r-shift and a 1x1 fn key?

Edit: Do you think enough people would be interested in a HHKB style addon pack?

[CommonCurt]

numiru was kind enough to do some renders with the Cherry font. 

Not the exact sets, but close enough to give you a pretty good idea of how it will look.

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I was leaning toward the Win7 logo for the winkeys, but would like some feedback so that we can make the most people happy.

Looks good.  Can't wait to see the renders.   

Win7 is good with me.    Just Please No win8 logo.

[Badwrench]

Infinty custom alps board is live on MD right now.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-keyboard-kit

Perfect timing for some custom Alps keysets.

Will buy this regardless, but that White based Soware looks so nice.


Probably mentioned already (sorry if I missed) but can we get an addon with 1.75 r-shift and a 1x1 fn key?

Edit: Do you think enough people would be interested in a HHKB style addon pack?

Here are all the packs I am planning.  I will be including the 1.75x shift key with the standard set as a lot more people are going with the Pure style layout, but the R4 fn key is in the HHKB kit.   
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62274.msg1492452#msg1492452

[jacobolus]

Do you have any idea about pricing at different quantities? If so, could you add that info to the OP?

[Badwrench]

Do you have any idea about pricing at different quantities? If so, could you add that info to the OP?

Not yet.  I am actually going to submit it tomorrow for pricing now that the design is finally nailed down.  I will update as soon as I have something. 

[deci]

Infinty custom alps board is live on MD right now.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-keyboard-kit

Perfect timing for some custom Alps keysets.

Will buy this regardless, but that White based Soware looks so nice.


Probably mentioned already (sorry if I missed) but can we get an addon with 1.75 r-shift and a 1x1 fn key?

Edit: Do you think enough people would be interested in a HHKB style addon pack?

Here are all the packs I am planning.  I will be including the 1.75x shift key with the standard set as a lot more people are going with the Pure style layout, but the R4 fn key is in the HHKB kit.   
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62274.msg1492452#msg1492452

Oh awesome. Sorry I didn't see it before.

 

edit: hmmm the more I look at it the more that Infinity keyboard on MD looks like a GON skinny clone with an HHKB layout.

[Elrick]

Do you have any idea about pricing at different quantities? If so, could you add that info to the OP?

Not yet.  I am actually going to submit it tomorrow for pricing now that the design is finally nailed down.  I will update as soon as I have something.

Looking forward to this because it will encourage me to go out and buy some Matias Keyboards for this key-set  .

[MahBoi]

I'm really looking forward to this. I recently acquired a Duck Mini but don't have a proper set of keycaps for it. Would've loved either of the white-based sets, but the black looks nice too.

[jacobolus]

You should really talk to SP about pricing ASAP, so you can give folks an idea of what kind of pricing they’ll be able to hit.

From what I understand, they make Alps caps quite a bit more expensive than MX, and Alps DCS in particular are very expensive.

To be honest, I think they’re going to over time lose their currently privileged position providing high-quality custom-designed keycaps to hobbyists, because their pricing is really opaque and confusing, and way too high.

[Badwrench]

You should really talk to SP about pricing ASAP, so you can give folks an idea of what kind of pricing they’ll be able to hit.

From what I understand, they make Alps caps quite a bit more expensive than MX, and Alps DCS in particular are very expensive.

To be honest, I think they’re going to over time lose their currently privileged position providing high-quality custom-designed keycaps to hobbyists, because their pricing is really opaque and confusing, and way too high.

Sets were submitted today for quotes.  I am really hoping this will be somewhat similar in pricing to mx DCS.  There are no custom caps and no spacebars, so hopefully it will fall close to current mx pricing. 

[Badwrench]

Ok, pricing is up in the OP.  Putting it here as well 

The pricing is pretty similar to MX.  It seems high for the alphas and mods, but they include the numpad as well as some odd keys. 

I am planning on putting the pricing starting at the minimums.  Would people be against this, let me know.  The possibility of having a very pricey tsangan/hhkb kit/inverted kit if they don't make the first price drop is unknown. 

Pricing is below:
Alphas:
25 sets                   $50 per set
50 sets                   $45 per set
75 sets                   $43 per set
100 sets                 $42 per set
150 sets                 $41 per set
250 sets                 $40 per set
 
Mods:
25 sets                   $72 per set
50 sets                   $50 per set
75 sets                   $43 per set
100 sets                 $40 per set
150 sets                 $36 per set
200 sets                 $34 per set
250 sets                 $33 per set
 
HHKB Kit:
10 sets                   $40 per set
25 sets                   $20 per set
50 sets                   $13 per set
75 sets                   $11 per set
100 sets                 $10 per set
150 sets                 $8 per set
 
Tsangan:
10 sets                   $38 per set
25 sets                   $19 per set
50 sets                   $12 per set
75 sets                   $10 per set
100 sets                 $9 per set
150 sets                 $8 per set
250 sets                 $7 per set
 
ISO Set
Alphas:
10 sets                   $24 per set
25 sets                   $13 per set
50 sets                   $9 per set
75 sets                   $8 per set
100 sets                 $7 per set
250 sets                 $6 per set
 
Inverted Kit:
10 sets                   $22 per set
25 sets                   $11 per set
50 sets                   $7 per set
75 sets                   $6 per set
100 sets                 $5 per set
200 sets                 $4 per set

[geniekid]

Good to see progress

Prices seem okay to me.  It's not great but one can't be all that picky when it comes to Alps caps at this time.

[Badwrench]

Good to see progress

Prices seem okay to me.  It's not great but one can't be all that picky when it comes to Alps caps at this time.

If we can hit the 50 MOQ on the base sets and 25 on the others, it's not bad at all: $158 for all 6 sets. 

[Heliosphere]

Good to see progress

Prices seem okay to me.  It's not great but one can't be all that picky when it comes to Alps caps at this time.

If we can hit the 50 MOQ on the base sets and 25 on the others, it's not bad at all: $158 for all 6 sets. 

Should be possible if we spread the word around enough. Alps-compatible custom keysets are few and far between so any Matias or Alps user should pick up a set.

[CommonCurt]

Since everyone is supposed to get their spacebars from Matias.   Does Matias make 6.25 spacebars?

Also, how is that going to work, are we going to have a separate GB for them?

[HoffmanMyster]

I'm liking where this is going.  I can get behind those 50 set numbers pretty easily, so I'll probably grab a set when this GB goes live.   

[Badwrench]

Since everyone is supposed to get their spacebars from Matias.   Does Matias make 6.25 spacebars?

Also, how is that going to work, are we going to have a separate GB for them?

Yup, they do.  I will get in contact with Matias to see what we need to do to get a GB started for some spacebars (6x (for those that got the Infinity in the HHKB style), 6.25x, and 7x) with cherry stabilizer mounts in black.  Some people may not need a spacebar (those getting sets for the V60 or the Infinity board if they got the offered caps). 

[Blaise170]

I will be interested in this for sure for my Chicony 5161. May have to sell off a keyboard to afford it though...  )

[Badwrench]

I will be interested in this for sure for my Chicony 5161. May have to sell off a keyboard to afford it though...  )

You will actually be able to use the entire base set on the Chicony since it uses Costar stabilizers, though you will have an empty space above the enter key where the top of the "Big Ass Enter" was.  I might make a little plate for mine there and paint the whole thing black. 

[Matias]

Since everyone is supposed to get their spacebars from Matias.   Does Matias make 6.25 spacebars?

Also, how is that going to work, are we going to have a separate GB for them?

Yup, they do.  I will get in contact with Matias to see what we need to do to get a GB started for some spacebars (6x (for those that got the Infinity in the HHKB style), 6.25x, and 7x) with cherry stabilizer mounts in black.  Some people may not need a spacebar (those getting sets for the V60 or the Infinity board if they got the offered caps).

This is a timely question...  :-)

We just received our first keycap shipment.  You can see the 7x spacebars in the top-right of the photo (below).  We also just placed an order for 6.25x spacebars.

[Blaise170]

You will actually be able to use the entire base set on the Chicony since it uses Costar stabilizers, though you will have an empty space above the enter key where the top of the "Big Ass Enter" was.  I might make a little plate for mine there and paint the whole thing black.

Do you know if the Chicony I have will have the correct sizes for alphas/mods? If so, I'm definitely interested.

If not, I'll need to know how to measure them so that I can potentially order the different sizing.

[Badwrench]

You will actually be able to use the entire base set on the Chicony since it uses Costar stabilizers, though you will have an empty space above the enter key where the top of the "Big Ass Enter" was.  I might make a little plate for mine there and paint the whole thing black.

Do you know if the Chicony I have will have the correct sizes for alphas/mods? If so, I'm definitely interested.

If not, I'll need to know how to measure them so that I can potentially order the different sizing.

I have the same board.  Other than the bigass enter, the only thing you will need is the tsangan kit for the 1.5x R4 mods.  A standard enter key will work in place of the big enter but will leave a gap above it.  Ifyou justwent alpas, they will completely replace all light keys on your board.

[CPTBadAss]

Just posting again to say I'm still very interested in this set. Thanks for providing the prices!

[geniekid]

Is the plan to run the GB through SP/PMK and have a separate GB for the Matias spacebar?

[Badwrench]

Is the plan to run the GB through SP/PMK and have a separate GB for the Matias spacebar?

Yes.  The IC should be up soon at PMK and if that goes through to gb status I will set up something with Matias to get spacebars for those that want them.

[geniekid]

Awesome!  I will help spread the word when the IC is up on PMK

[Matias]

Is the plan to run the GB through SP/PMK and have a separate GB for the Matias spacebar?

Yes.  The IC should be up soon at PMK and if that goes through to gb status I will set up something with Matias to get spacebars for those that want them.

Spacebars will be available on our website soon, and will continue to be available on an ongoing basis.  We have 7x spacebars in black and white now, and have 6.25x spacebars on order.

[geniekid]

Geekhack makes me forget that sometimes you can just buy things through a website like a normal person.

[Badwrench]

Geekhack makes me forget that sometimes you can just buy things through a website like a normal person.

Same.  Thanks for the update Matias    Once they are up, pm or post the link and I will add it to the OP. 

[jacobolus]

Spacebars will be available on our website soon, and will continue to be available on an ongoing basis.  We have 7x spacebars in black and white now, and have 6.25x spacebars on order.

What about 2.5x1.5 or 4.5x1.5 spacebars?

Also, what about tiny sizes (Japanese keyboards, etc.) like 2.5x1, 4x1, 4.5x1, etc. I don’t ever remember precisely which spacebar shapes you guys use for all your various keyboards.

[Matias]

Geekhack makes me forget that sometimes you can just buy things through a website like a normal person.

Same.  Thanks for the update Matias    Once they are up, pm or post the link and I will add it to the OP.

Will do...

Spacebars will be available on our website soon, and will continue to be available on an ongoing basis.  We have 7x spacebars in black and white now, and have 6.25x spacebars on order.

What about 2.5x1.5 or 4.5x1.5 spacebars?

2.5x1.5 spacebars will be available as around the same time as the Ergo Pro.  4.5x1.5 spacebars will be available later.

Also, what about tiny sizes (Japanese keyboards, etc.) like 2.5x1, 4x1, 4.5x1, etc. I don’t ever remember precisely which spacebar shapes you guys use for all your various keyboards.

The smallest size we use for Japanese spacebars is 4.5x1.  We can get some of those in if there's interest.

[jacobolus]

2.5x1.5 spacebars will be available as around the same time as the Ergo Pro.  4.5x1.5 spacebars will be available later.

Awesome. As soon as they’re available, I’m going to want like 20 white 2.5x1.5 keys to use in various projects. :-)

[Badwrench]

Updating OP with official renders courtesy of Numiru. 

Official IC is pending with PMK 

[CommonCurt]

Updating OP with official renders courtesy of Numiru. 

Official IC is pending with PMK 

Great news 

[Badwrench]

The Matias spacebars have landed - looks like the black will match great 

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65194.0

[ideus]

I'd like to have seen this had happened 2 years ago when I switched from ALPS to Cherry because of the lack of alternative sets for my boards. Two boards, one old and one relatively new went into the classifieds for cheap. Anyway, I am really happy to see some interest in them now at GH. BTW the Matias' boards did not get much demand at their last Massdrop's offers. Only a fraction of boards users appear to be interested in these, that are otherwise nice ALPS boards.

[Badwrench]

I'd like to have seen this had happened 2 years ago when I switched from ALPS to Cherry because of the lack of alternative sets for my boards. Two boards, one old and one relatively new went into the classifieds for cheap. Anyway, I am really happy to see some interest in them now at GH. BTW the Matias' boards did not get much demand at their last Massdrop's offers. Only a fraction of boards users appear to be interested in these, that are otherwise nice ALPS boards.

Yeah, I kept reading through the discussion on the Infinity buy and most people went with Cherry.  Nothing wrong with that, I just like a bit of variety. 

[KatzenKinder]

Oh wow, just stumbled upon these. I would be all over any of these colorways.

[Badwrench]

IC is now live on PMK.  Head on over and vote!  Lets get this thing going.
http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/delta-blues-alps-dcs-set/