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Title: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | GB Thread is up!
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 07 August 2020, 22:25:15
Group Buy / Vendors
Group Buy Starts November 4th, 2020 - December 4th, 2020
GMK Fundamentals
NA:Space (https://spaceholdings.net/collections/live-sales/products/gmk-fundamentals)
EU: Proto[Typist] (https://prototypist.net/)
Oceania: SwitchKeys (https://www.switchkeys.com.au/)
Asia: iLumKB (https://ilumkb.com/)
(https://i.imgur.com/Nl4WLE6.jpg)

LINK TO GROUP BUY THREAD: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109361.0

Keyset Pricing
More
NA [Space] (USD)
Base Kit- $120.00
Accents Kit- $40.00
Additional Kit - $35.00
Spacebars Kit- $25.00

EU [Prototypist] (GBP)
Base Kit- £110.00 inc VAT
Accents Kit- £37.00 inc VAT
Additional Kit - £32.00 inc VAT
Spacebars Kit- £23.00 inc VAT

ASIA [iLumKB] (SGD)
Base Kit- $175.00
Accents Kit- $58.00
Additional Kit - $51.00
Spacebars Kit- $36.00

Oceania [SwitchKeys] (AUD)
Base Kit- $185.00
Accents Kit- $63.00
Additional Kit - $55.00
Spacebars Kit- $35.00


(https://i.imgur.com/NFOThdZ.jpg)


Colors
(https://i.imgur.com/RdEkx9E.png)


Kit Design
Base Kit
Support standard layouts, UK ISO Support, Full Size, TKLs, 75s, 65s, WKL boards, minimal 50s support and more!

(https://i.imgur.com/24J0xSM.png)

Additional Kit
40s support

(https://i.imgur.com/7b0IC8k.png)

Accent Kit
Colored Accents

(https://i.imgur.com/cUhWkmj.png)

Spacebar Kit
Split bars, 6u bars, 3u bars

(https://i.imgur.com/nvFRaul.png)


Renders

Evolv by NathanAlphaMan
(https://i.imgur.com/pbAQtev.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FEalKrl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/E1qKQZd.jpg)

Sakura660 by Satisfactory Designs
(https://i.imgur.com/1PMXL7w.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dMBCDtx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/463zPoj.jpg)

Iron180 by Smith & Rune
(https://i.imgur.com/Fne53wJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ippIztx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vea7A4w.jpg)

Anubis by N.rdy
(https://i.imgur.com/y7A5GqL.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/xQfEFXU.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/rsVvh24.png)



Deskpads

(https://i.imgur.com/IPyaaX4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vDiEgUR.jpg)


Artisan Collaboration:
If you make artisans are are interested in making some artisans for this set feel free to hit me up!

Artisans currently confirmed:

- SodieCaps

- Ukiyokeys

- Win Keys

Waiting to hear back from other artisan designers, will update list as more join on!


Custom Cables by SpaceCables
TBA

Thanks
Many thanks to the following for your help and support during the design of this set:

Bottom Klunk for the love and help with this set!
My Discord (https://discord.gg/BfArswD) for all the feedback and support everyone has given me in there!
Ilikerustoo for the amazing advice and help on this set, and for being a fantastic stream manager for me on twitch!
NathanAlphaMan for helping me out with these amazing renders of the set, your renders are insane!!!!
N.rdy for the dope renders of the Anubis!
Sour for the advice and designs for the set!
PhantomTaco for all the help with the accent colors!

Full Album of renders! (https://imgur.com/a/OnhUXNK)

Next Steps
Add more renders
Go to Group Buy next month

Check for Updates on my Discord
(https://i.imgur.com/sYbcFHB.png]) (https://discord.gg/BfArswD)

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 07 August 2020, 22:25:39
Reserved
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: zakatak on Fri, 07 August 2020, 22:27:24
Nice

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: break on Fri, 07 August 2020, 22:29:35
Welp, this is going to sell like crazy. So clean. GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Zacharius on Fri, 07 August 2020, 22:30:07
Nice


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: sygo_ on Fri, 07 August 2020, 22:31:36
the accent colours are neat! love it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Warrenified on Fri, 07 August 2020, 22:32:44
yes tyson
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: fropsie on Fri, 07 August 2020, 22:32:51
Hellls yeah
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: czarjon on Fri, 07 August 2020, 22:33:26
Yooo this was the exact color way I was hoping someone would do! Definitely down


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 07 August 2020, 22:34:47
At least sell this along side the set so we can do something with the 4 iso enters in the base kit

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-skoPYGOXZ_U/W-8XhE2scNI/AAAAAAACUUU/-IDKkpftbg8Pwr8NhnD3yIjPfWm3LiVdwCLcBGAs/s1600/a.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: mrpetrov on Fri, 07 August 2020, 22:43:05
yes please
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: superdoedoe on Fri, 07 August 2020, 22:44:53
yeees. V nice - good mods  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: of_sam on Fri, 07 August 2020, 22:50:18
Good looks, nice work man.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: crestia on Fri, 07 August 2020, 22:54:48
nice set. looking forward to more information :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: johnnysstash on Fri, 07 August 2020, 22:56:52
colors are on point tyson! digging it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Altephor on Fri, 07 August 2020, 23:00:12
I like this, very clean.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: ProlificPanda on Fri, 07 August 2020, 23:02:45
The album is a lie! No additional renders found.  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: sourmk on Fri, 07 August 2020, 23:07:51
Tyson hype!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: scoopbb on Fri, 07 August 2020, 23:09:53
looks good, wish there was ortho support
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: NathanAlphaMan on Fri, 07 August 2020, 23:23:10
Big hearts, working on this was a lot of fun!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: spacecables on Fri, 07 August 2020, 23:46:24
Love this set! Excited to collab with you again!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: ddrfraser1 on Fri, 07 August 2020, 23:47:05
I like
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 07 August 2020, 23:47:24
The album is a lie! No additional renders found.  ;D

Oops! My bad, I copied the format from GMK Ashes IC page, guess I forgot to change the text for that one hahahah.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: damagepoint on Fri, 07 August 2020, 23:59:08
You and the set are aight, guess I'm in. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Hyphen on Sat, 08 August 2020, 00:02:45
I love this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Seoulcialite on Sat, 08 August 2020, 00:33:51
I guess it's ok. I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Ulliam on Sat, 08 August 2020, 00:56:28
yes please gb when?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: -Jerry- on Sat, 08 August 2020, 01:23:02
Clean, very clean. I like.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: shichinin on Sat, 08 August 2020, 02:23:28
I am bound by contract to join. Also good set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Vinchenzol on Sat, 08 August 2020, 02:40:59
Love the color add-ons :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: rondg on Sat, 08 August 2020, 02:43:45
I would love to see a deskmat in that pattern
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: sagarsiddhpura on Sat, 08 August 2020, 03:22:04
Can you please have deskhero as canadian vendor
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: i luv chuletas on Sat, 08 August 2020, 10:14:19
Colors look sick, this will be selling like hot cakes.

I do however have to point out that 40's support in your additional kit is pretty lacking:
No 1u Tab/Shift/Enter/Backspace.
No 1.75 enter

There are many other keys usually associated with 40's, but there are the more obvious ones! :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: fabijolo on Sat, 08 August 2020, 10:53:41
Nice, I'm completely stocked that we finally got the IC for it, I've been absolutely loving it, and will definitely be picking up at least the base kit for sure :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: neutralstate on Sat, 08 August 2020, 11:47:58
nice, this is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: //gainsborough on Sat, 08 August 2020, 12:00:44
this needs to stop!  There are too many good cap sets coming out!  I can't afford everything!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: santela on Sat, 08 August 2020, 12:17:10
I like clean, so I might be in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: RETURNISO on Sat, 08 August 2020, 12:41:00
Nice combo :thumb:

3k slightly reminds me of Cherry "Hellgrau" and very similar to the Alcatel Mmk caps, but just with N9ish as legends.

gonna look super nice irl! :)

little potato shot for ref
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Congree on Sat, 08 August 2020, 14:46:11
Omg yes i want it now!!! Looks amazing!


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: wholypantalones on Sat, 08 August 2020, 15:12:48
Love it, text and icon mods too!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: ubmit on Sat, 08 August 2020, 17:17:43
I don't know why but this makes me feel like HF and Honeywell had a child. It looks amazing! GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Yakbats on Sat, 08 August 2020, 17:19:16
Nice! I'm a sucker for the gorgeous TU1 blue. I would like to see a more robust 40s kit tho. Something more like the WoB Extension kit that novelkeys ran a few months ago.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: singabore on Sat, 08 August 2020, 20:12:06
What is this goofy ass set

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Clay333 on Sat, 08 August 2020, 20:30:57
Well, guess I am buying another  GMK set. This looks amazing. I need a more basic looking set that can go on anything and this definitely fits the bill. One thing I would love to see is separate the accents from the base kit and go really crazy with colors having tons of different options. Either way this is an instabuy and you can accent it with nearly anything from any set and it will match perfectly.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: surfmurder on Sat, 08 August 2020, 23:54:08
i am buzzing
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: ilikerustoo on Sun, 09 August 2020, 01:34:30
I'd buy
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Maniac on Sun, 09 August 2020, 02:36:53
Nice! I am in for sure, would be my first GMK set :-)
But please, please, include NorDe ISO set as well.

Edit: Also would be nice to have the numpad Enter in accent colors as well, like in other sets. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Tyson on Sun, 09 August 2020, 03:43:33
Nice! I'm a sucker for the gorgeous TU1 blue. I would like to see a more robust 40s kit tho. Something more like the WoB Extension kit that novelkeys ran a few months ago.

I'll be updating the Additional kit with a few more caps to provide more 40s support. Thanks for the kind words!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: helderpimenta on Sun, 09 August 2020, 04:36:50
Hi,

Is the GMK 3K color = White?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: arremkay on Sun, 09 August 2020, 09:57:26
Change the text on the alphas to a gray color and you might get me.. not really feeling the high contrast alphas and low contrast mods
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: thor_r on Sun, 09 August 2020, 10:21:06
I'm in for this, great work!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: fabijolo on Sun, 09 August 2020, 11:12:30
Kind of, but I would say it's definitely more on the grayish/off white side, than "clear white"
Hi,

Is the GMK 3K color = White?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 09 August 2020, 23:38:25
Kind of, but I would say it's definitely more on the grayish/off white side, than "clear white"
Hi,

Is the GMK 3K color = White?

It's kinda off-white or a very light greige

3K is the color of GMK Royal Alpha base. You can see the light greige tint when mounted on a white board. On darker boards it looks like a dull white.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: jas_kidd32 on Mon, 10 August 2020, 04:36:05
This is so clean. I like it a lot.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: alper_maestro on Mon, 10 August 2020, 08:23:08
The color combination is so beautiful  :-*
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: alper_maestro on Mon, 10 August 2020, 08:33:48
Change the text on the alphas to a gray color and you might get me.. not really feeling the high contrast alphas and low contrast mods
+1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: alper_maestro on Mon, 10 August 2020, 08:50:37
I think that it would be cool to see the text color of the alphas in GMK 2B. maybe in the future when there is a round 2.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: lakeboredom on Mon, 10 August 2020, 20:27:39
Sooo this is going to sell extremely well. Like.. maybe record breaking if it's marketed well lots of Reddit post. Anyway, can we please split the numpad out of the basekit to save $$ for the MAJORITY of people. I don't see any kits failing to meet MOQ for such a set, so there's literally no risk for people that want NumPad and $$ to be saved for people buying only the base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Poesjuh on Tue, 11 August 2020, 03:35:57
No, god please no.
Love the base, had everything anyone needs except spacebars stuff. Don’t do the split kits thing.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: lakeboredom on Tue, 11 August 2020, 04:27:06
It could be a $100 Base kit without Numpad/ISO keys.. With them more like $130
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: -Jerry- on Tue, 11 August 2020, 04:27:48
Don’t do the split kits thing.

+1 to that - I hate it when kits split out the numpad, it's massive FOMO. Maybe I'm not using a 96% now, so I only get the Base, then I move to a larger board later. Ugh, nothing worse.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: violeaf on Tue, 11 August 2020, 04:45:28
No split = clean and all kits made and no future regrets
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Poesjuh on Tue, 11 August 2020, 05:22:21
It could be a $100 Base kit without Numpad/ISO keys.. With them more like $130

If you want that buy a different set hehe :P

1800 boards are getting more and more popular, there def is a market for numpads.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: -Jerry- on Tue, 11 August 2020, 05:50:55
1800 boards are getting more and more popular, there def is a market for numpads.

Hell, I use the numpad keys even on a 60%

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Tyson on Tue, 11 August 2020, 15:10:57
Rest assured that the numpad and ISO are staying in the base. I want to provide a ton of coverage for everyone in the base kit!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Tyson on Tue, 11 August 2020, 19:50:25
Vendors:
Running: TBA
US: SpaceCables (https://spaceholdings.net/)
CA: AuraMech (https://auramech.com/)
EU: Proto[Typist] (https://prototypist.net/)
SEA: iLumKB (https://ilumkb.com/)
AU: SwitchKeys (https://www.switchkeys.com.au/)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: singabore on Tue, 11 August 2020, 20:06:37
Vendors:
Running: TBA
US: SpaceCables (https://spaceholdings.net/)
CA: AuraMech (https://auramech.com/)
EU: Proto[Typist] (https://prototypist.net/)
SEA: iLumKB (https://ilumkb.com/)
AU: SwitchKeys (https://www.switchkeys.com.au/)
Dn

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 12 August 2020, 12:28:43
So I've been working on updating the additional kit, would you guy prefer if the spacebars were in a seperate kit, or keep them in the additional kit?

Proposed changes right now:
- Remove Mod colored 1u R1 Pipe key from Base Kit
- Add 1.25u Tab key into Base Kit
- Seperate Spacebars from Additional Kit, create Spacebars Kit
- Adding R3 1.75u enter & R2 backspace for 40s to the Additional Kit

Let me know what you guys think about these changes!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: violeaf on Wed, 12 August 2020, 12:47:16

- Remove Mod colored 1u R4 Pipe key from Base Kit

You mean R1?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: fatboycarney on Wed, 12 August 2020, 13:34:12
Love these colours Tyson great work!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: Starston3 on Wed, 12 August 2020, 13:48:09
Could you add two 1.5u Super and an extra 1u Alt key to the base for tsangan compat for users the prefer GUI next to the spacebar? Similar to what GMK Wavez did.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200812/cd70821bbe2fd0223fb741f496d919d4.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 12 August 2020, 13:51:38

- Remove Mod colored 1u R4 Pipe key from Base Kit

You mean R1?

Yes! My bad! Hahaha
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 12 August 2020, 13:52:46
Could you add two 1.5u Super and an extra 1u Alt key to the base for tsangan compat for users the prefer GUI next to the spacebar? Similar to what GMK Wavez did.
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200812/cd70821bbe2fd0223fb741f496d919d4.png)


I think the base kit might be full, I'd be down to include them in the additional kit! I definitely use my right alt key as my windows keys on all of my WKL boards so adding this in is a must for me too! Thanks for the reccomendation!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: Hyphen on Wed, 12 August 2020, 14:16:54
A Canadian proxy! I'm excited.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: Deanington on Wed, 12 August 2020, 21:25:59
I really like this set. Its hard to add anything beyond how good it is to me. So posting to show support and hopefully will be buying this in the future.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: dallman5 on Wed, 12 August 2020, 23:55:21
Love the concept! I’m just not sure how I feel about the alpha legends being CR? Something lower contrast may be nicer but then you run the risk of looking too similar to Honeywell
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: JCraftCables on Thu, 13 August 2020, 05:32:33
Digging that colour scheme but I would really prefer the more modern GMK modifier legends without the text.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: Tyson on Thu, 13 August 2020, 11:28:47
Digging that colour scheme but I would really prefer the more modern GMK modifier legends without the text.

Text + Icon was an asthetic choice that was chosen to give the set a more classic look. :) It's also one of my favorite mod choices, I love it on R1 Honeywell!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 13 August 2020, 13:49:40
Digging that colour scheme but I would really prefer the more modern GMK modifier legends without the text.

Text + Icon was an asthetic choice that was chosen to give the set a more classic look. :) It's also one of my favorite mod choices, I love it on R1 Honeywell!
Could not agree more.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: scoopbb on Thu, 13 August 2020, 17:35:51
if you do a small kit for 40s + extension please consider adding ortho.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 14 August 2020, 21:00:18
Currently reworking the kits to provide more coverage for everyone

Changes so far:
- Removed  R1 1u Mod Colored Pipe Key
- Added R3 1.25u Tab key & Second B to Base Kit
- Reworked Additional kit to provide way more support for 40s/ortho users
- Added 2x 1.5u Super keys & extra 1u Alt key to the additional kit for tsangan users who would prefer to use these keys
- Created Spacebar kit that offers a ton of support for split space boards


Users mentioned that they are interested in adding accent colored spacebars to the set, I'm a bit hesitant since there are 3 accent colors in the base kit. If I add accent colored bars to the spacebar kit that would add a minimum of 6 extra spacebars to the kit (only offering support for 6.25u & 7u). I don't really want to make the spacebar kit that big, but if there is enough interest we can figure something out.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Deskmat Update!
Post by: Tyson on Thu, 20 August 2020, 17:03:22
New update for the deskmats! Working on getting those kit changes out as soon as I can! Expect that in the next update!

Deskmats

(https://i.imgur.com/IPyaaX4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vDiEgUR.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Deskmat Update!
Post by: MdotMaxson on Fri, 21 August 2020, 06:41:54
I feel like these colors could easily be made with PBT and wonder why everytime people take PBTable colors and cripple them with ABS. I made the mistake of buying a few GMK keysets that I’m afraid to type of because of how disgusting shine looks. Although it appears to me the trend is to buy a keyset and type on it exactly long enough to not develop noticeable shine then sell it on mechmarket for 100$ more than what you paid. So the whole idea of PBT and being cheaper, lasting longer, really I guess doesn’t make sense if you see keyboards as a profitable hobby.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Deskmat Update!
Post by: sevenseacat on Fri, 21 August 2020, 09:18:08
I feel like these colors could easily be made with PBT and wonder why everytime people take PBTable colors and cripple them with ABS. I made the mistake of buying a few GMK keysets that I’m afraid to type of because of how disgusting shine looks. Although it appears to me the trend is to buy a keyset and type on it exactly long enough to not develop noticeable shine then sell it on mechmarket for 100$ more than what you paid. So the whole idea of PBT and being cheaper, lasting longer, really I guess doesn’t make sense if you see keyboards as a profitable hobby.

Cheaper, lasting longer, you just have to look at inconsistent, blurry and/or crooked dye-subbing every time you look at the keyboard.

I have no problem with shine, so I know which I prefer.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Deskmat Update!
Post by: ViciousVerbivore on Sun, 23 August 2020, 09:41:14
I would love to be able to get just those accent keys to pair with WoB!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Deskmat Update!
Post by: Alchemist Keyboards on Sun, 23 August 2020, 10:02:58
Shut up and take my money! Also this needs renders on the OGR ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Deskmat Update!
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Sun, 23 August 2020, 10:29:09
Thought I was done with GMK but I’m definitely down for this set.

It’s so clean!


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Deskmat Update!
Post by: BirgusLatro on Sun, 23 August 2020, 13:54:58
wow nice work!  very interested
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Deskmat Update!
Post by: gilbert on Sun, 23 August 2020, 14:00:30
This is super cool!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: ideus on Sun, 23 August 2020, 15:31:03
Nice combo :thumb:

3k slightly reminds me of Cherry "Hellgrau" and very similar to the Alcatel Mmk caps, but just with N9ish as legends.

gonna look super nice irl! :)

little potato shot for ref
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Is this my opportunity to get a 6u space bar compatible with my Alcatel MMK set?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Tyson on Sun, 23 August 2020, 20:42:22
Nice combo :thumb:

3k slightly reminds me of Cherry "Hellgrau" and very similar to the Alcatel Mmk caps, but just with N9ish as legends.

gonna look super nice irl! :)

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Is this my opportunity to get a 6u space bar compatible with my Alcatel MMK set?

Are the Alcatel MMK caps 3K, because if so then yes!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: ideus on Mon, 24 August 2020, 08:33:06
Nice combo :thumb:

3k slightly reminds me of Cherry "Hellgrau" and very similar to the Alcatel Mmk caps, but just with N9ish as legends.

gonna look super nice irl! :)

little potato shot for ref
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Is this my opportunity to get a 6u space bar compatible with my Alcatel MMK set?

Are the Alcatel MMK caps 3K, because if so then yes!




I will check if there is any reference available in the internet. Based on RETURNISO's picture they look the same. By the way, the MMK color is very nice. It is less saturated than OG Beige. It is actually closer to kaki, than beige. The MMK has dark gray legends and I think that Tyson's proposal will look great with CR legends.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Deskmat Update!
Post by: superdoedoe on Fri, 28 August 2020, 02:20:25
gb when
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Deskmat Update!
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 28 August 2020, 06:43:23
Consider removing the mod-colored R1 1u \| from the base kit. This key is not commonly used. The prevalent split backspace configuration is:

(https://i.imgur.com/J45RnFg.png?1)

The minority of users who like putting tilde first still have the option of doing so, just with alpha-colored keys.

I think you have too many ISO Enters in the base kit. Consider offloading some of them to the additional kit or dropping them altogether. On a related note, I don't think ISO-UK support in base is a must as those keys are only used by about 3% of all users.

As for the additional kit, you can drop the 1.75u space. Not only is that key very uncommon even among 40% boards (it isn't used on anything >40%), but there is only a single board (Vortex Core) that uses one 1.75u; the remaining 2–3 boards (JD40/45, Prime_L) all need two. Plus, the kit doesn't have the keys required to cover those boards anyway.

Speaking of 40% support, from what I've seen, the consensus among 40s and ortho users seems to be that offering just 2–3 keys is not useful at all. “Designers should either offer proper support or not bother at all.” Price isn't as much of an issue; proper compatibility is. As it stands, I don't think any 40s or ortho boards could be correctly covered with the minimal support in this kit (other than Romeo and Equinox, which are designed to be base-kit–compatible anyway).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Deskmat Update!
Post by: violeaf on Fri, 28 August 2020, 07:07:24


I think you have too many ISO Enters in the base kit. Consider offloading some of them to the additional kit or dropping them altogether. On a related note, I don't think ISO-UK support in base is a must as those keys are only used by about 3% of all users.

I think from a seller's perspective the logic is that not including the ISO keys would then lose 3% sales, but including them would not impact non-ISO buyers' decision as much

Personally I don't mind a separate ISO kit, and yes 4 ISO enters is uncommon
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Deskmat Update!
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 28 August 2020, 07:29:31
There are 4 ansi enters in the kit as well.
I guess the fair thing to do, when including iso in base, is to include the same amount of accents like it is now.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Deskmat Update!
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 28 August 2020, 08:21:08
I think from a seller's perspective the logic is that not including the ISO keys would then lose 3% sales, but including them would not impact non-ISO buyers' decision as much

It would. Plus or minus $5 or $10 can actually make a big difference when it comes to sales.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 28 August 2020, 10:00:52
Consider removing the mod-colored R1 1u \| from the base kit. This key is not commonly used. The prevalent split backspace configuration is:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/J45RnFg.png?1)


The minority of users who like putting tilde first still have the option of doing so, just with alpha-colored keys.

I think you have too many ISO Enters in the base kit. Consider offloading some of them to the additional kit or dropping them altogether. On a related note, I don't think ISO-UK support in base is a must as those keys are only used by about 3% of all users.

As for the additional kit, you can drop the 1.75u space. Not only is that key very uncommon even among 40% boards (it isn't used on anything >40%), but there is only a single board (Vortex Core) that uses one 1.75u; the remaining 2–3 boards (JD40/45, Prime_L) all need two. Plus, the kit doesn't have the keys required to cover those boards anyway.

Speaking of 40% support, from what I've seen, the consensus among 40s and ortho users seems to be that offering just 2–3 keys is not useful at all. “Designers should either offer proper support or not bother at all.” Price isn't as much of an issue; proper compatibility is. As it stands, I don't think any 40s or ortho boards could be correctly covered with the minimal support in this kit (other than Romeo and Equinox, which are designed to be base-kit–compatible anyway).

Currently reworking the kits to provide more coverage for everyone

Changes so far:
- Removed  R1 1u Mod Colored Pipe Key
- Added R3 1.25u Tab key & Second B to Base Kit
- Reworked Additional kit to provide way more support for 40s/ortho users
- Added 2x 1.5u Super keys & extra 1u Alt key to the additional kit for tsangan users who would prefer to use these keys
- Created Spacebar kit that offers a ton of support for split space boards


Users mentioned that they are interested in adding accent colored spacebars to the set, I'm a bit hesitant since there are 3 accent colors in the base kit. If I add accent colored bars to the spacebar kit that would add a minimum of 6 extra spacebars to the kit (only offering support for 6.25u & 7u). I don't really want to make the spacebar kit that big, but if there is enough interest we can figure something out.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Deskmat Update!
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 28 August 2020, 11:23:14
gb when

Soon (TM)

Working out all the logistics for the set, waiting for a few more things then going to announce the release date. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals (Vendors Announcement)
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 28 August 2020, 18:14:53
Currently reworking the kits to provide more coverage for everyone

Changes so far:
- Removed  R1 1u Mod Colored Pipe Key
- Added R3 1.25u Tab key & Second B to Base Kit
- Reworked Additional kit to provide way more support for 40s/ortho users
- Added 2x 1.5u Super keys & extra 1u Alt key to the additional kit for tsangan users who would prefer to use these keys
- Created Spacebar kit that offers a ton of support for split space boards


Users mentioned that they are interested in adding accent colored spacebars to the set, I'm a bit hesitant since there are 3 accent colors in the base kit. If I add accent colored bars to the spacebar kit that would add a minimum of 6 extra spacebars to the kit (only offering support for 6.25u & 7u). I don't really want to make the spacebar kit that big, but if there is enough interest we can figure something out.

Nice! I have to admit I missed that post. Looks like you've already covered most of my suggestions (glad to see we're on the same page). Looking forward to seeing the updated kits.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Deskmat Update!
Post by: haystack on Fri, 28 August 2020, 19:49:08
Maybe missed a chance to call it GMK Bronywell & Co, but the colors are lovely.
Title: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Deskmat Update!
Post by: Poesjuh on Sat, 29 August 2020, 13:42:04
Just a thought. I wouldn’t mind seeing all accent keys in a separate kit, so I can get them to pair with other sets :P

So this is me just thinking about me since I’ll most likely won’t join but am interested in the accents.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Final Kit Update!
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 02 September 2020, 16:56:38
Kit's have been adjusted! Everything should now be ready to go for GB! Still working on getting everything ready and will update everyone with GB date along with other news!

Kit Design
Base Kit
Support standard layouts, UK ISO Support, Full Size, TKLs, 75s, 65s, WKL boards, minimal 40s support and more!

(https://i.imgur.com/HQ28eXn.jpg)


Spacebar Kit
Split bars, 6u bars, 3u bars

(https://i.imgur.com/sGUeh5K.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Final Kit Update!
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 02 September 2020, 20:11:39
Some remarks and thoughts on the new kits:

Base Kit
Support standard layouts, UK ISO Support, Full Size, TKLs, 75s, 65s, WKL boards, minimal 40s support and more!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/qjFvDjN.jpg)

• Looks like there is a duplicate R1 End key. One of them can be removed :)

• The 1u numpad 0 key should be alpha-colored instead of mod-colored.

• The kit is missing a R4 1.25u Fn key, which is used on a lot of layouts going from staggered 40% all the way up to full-size. I would suggest replacing the Menu key with Fn, as most sets do. Menu has limited uses, primarily for “standard”/non-programmable TKL and full-size layouts with 6.25u bottom rows. But in these cases, Fn is a viable replacement, whereas Menu isn't really a viable replacement for Fn in other cases. Fn is also more popular overall, so it would be the preferred legend choice here.

• There is a small discrepancy with the legends of the lock keys — Scroll uses a single-line legend, whereas the other two do it the OG way with two lines. However, since a lot of the legends in this set aren't OG-Cherry–style, I would recommend changing Num↲Lock to Num and stepped Caps↲Lock to Caps for a cleaner, more consistent look.

• On the topic of 40s support: adding a R3 1.25u Tab to the base kit does not give you minimal 40s support. Not really, anyway. Physical coverage is one thing, but you'd be hard-pressed to find a 40s user that would be looking forward to covering their board with End or PgDn for Esc, Control or Caps Lock for Enter, and Shifts for spaces. As mentioned previously, 40% users are much more interested in getting proper compatibility than any compatibility, especially if they are already paying for a premium product. This is why the most of them end up getting the 40s kit anyway.
With that in mind, I think the R3 1.25u Tab on its own does not go very far in the way of giving 40s support to those that need it. And to others, it's a dead key. If you'd like to offer a more useful minimal 40s compat in base, consider the following (in addition to the Tab):
This is the bare minimum for what most would consider usable 40% compatibility. But even then, a few important keys would still be missing, e.g. Lower/Raise, and you'd have to resort to using End/PgDn or Super for those. So in summary, I suggest just moving the R3 1.25u Tab into the Additional kit to make it easier for everyone.


Additional Kit
F13, more 40s Support, alternate Tsangan support.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/OZlqAUV.jpg)

• Two boards use R3 1.5u Enter: Pearl and Minivan (and its derivatives). In addition to this key, Pearl also requires a R3 1.5u Tab/Fn, and Minivan requires R2 1.75u Backspace (included) and R4 1.75u Lock. So, as it stands, the support for these boards is incomplete, and consequently, including just R3 1.5u Enter and R2 1.75u Backspace on their own doesn't do much good. You have two options here:
I'd like to add that R4 1.75u Lock can also be used to cover: JD40/JD45/Prime_L, as a second 1.75u spacekey (more on that below); Dimple, as a second 1.75u Shift; and Filco Minila, when combined with a 3u space from the spacebar kit. This, together with the popularity of the two aforementioned boards in the 40% space, makes option 1 the better choice imo.

• I think this kit needs more in the way of ortho support. At least a R3 Enter, R3 Esc and R2 Tab (all 1u).
The thing is that the Planck/Preonic coverage is inconsistent at the moment: the kit has a R4 Enter, which is used on the default OLKB layout, but it doesn't have R2 Tab, R3 Esc which are also part of that layout. On the other hand, a lot of people prefer to use the more familiar R2 Esc and R3 Tab, but then R3 Enter is missing. It'd be nice to have all of these options.
Ideally there would also be a second R4 1u Ctrl and second R4 1u Shift. A generic key like Code could come in handy for these.

• The 1.5u Shift seems a bit of an odd inclusion for such a small kit. This would be useful only for Evolv (which isn't out yet) and UT47.2.


Spacebar Kit
Split bars, 6u bars, 3u bars

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/sGUeh5K.jpg)

• If you aren't going to include the R4 1.75u Lock key in Additional, then the 1.75u space can be removed from here as it's pretty much useless — the only keyboard that uses a single 1.75u space is Vortex Core. No keyboards larger than 40% use this spacebar size.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Final Kit Update!
Post by: scoopbb on Wed, 02 September 2020, 23:16:09
youd prolly get better numbers combining extension and bars. r2 tab, r3 escape for ortho with r4 enter is the regular offering (imo) if youre going to keep it really simple
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Final Kit Update!
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 02 September 2020, 23:46:09
Some remarks and thoughts on the new kits:

Base Kit
Support standard layouts, UK ISO Support, Full Size, TKLs, 75s, 65s, WKL boards, minimal 40s support and more!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/qjFvDjN.jpg)

• Looks like there is a duplicate R1 End key. One of them can be removed :)

• The 1u numpad 0 key should be alpha-colored instead of mod-colored.

• The kit is missing a R4 1.25u Fn key, which is used on a lot of layouts going from staggered 40% all the way up to full-size. I would suggest replacing the Menu key with Fn, as most sets do. Menu has limited uses, primarily for “standard”/non-programmable TKL and full-size layouts with 6.25u bottom rows. But in these cases, Fn is a viable replacement, whereas Menu isn't really a viable replacement for Fn in other cases. Fn is also more popular overall, so it would be the preferred legend choice here.

• There is a small discrepancy with the legends of the lock keys — Scroll uses a single-line legend, whereas the other two do it the OG way with two lines. However, since a lot of the legends in this set aren't OG-Cherry–style, I would recommend changing Num↲Lock to Num and stepped Caps↲Lock to Caps for a cleaner, more consistent look.

• On the topic of 40s support: adding a R3 1.25u Tab to the base kit does not give you minimal 40s support. Not really, anyway. Physical coverage is one thing, but you'd be hard-pressed to find a 40s user that would be looking forward to covering their board with End or PgDn for Esc, Control or Caps Lock for Enter, and Shifts for spaces. As mentioned previously, 40% users are much more interested in getting proper compatibility than any compatibility, especially if they are already paying for a premium product. This is why the most of them end up getting the 40s kit anyway.
With that in mind, I think the R3 1.25u Tab on its own does not go very far in the way of giving 40s support to those that need it. And to others, it's a dead key. If you'd like to offer a more useful minimal 40s compat in base, consider the following (in addition to the Tab):
  • Change R2 PgUp to Out — this lets the R2 PgUp key double as a 1u Esc key for 40s and orthos.
  • Change R3 PgDn to Read or Data — this lets the R3 PgDn key double as a 1u Esc, Tab, Enter, Ctrl, ... key for orthos.
  • Add a generic R4 1u key, e.g. Code — this could work as 1u Enter or Shift for orthos (and even some oddball 60% layouts).
  • Add R3 1.75u Enter — the most popular Enter size on staggered 40% boards.
This is the bare minimum for what most would consider usable 40% compatibility. But even then, a few important keys would still be missing, e.g. Lower/Raise, and you'd have to resort to using End/PgDn or Super for those. So in summary, I suggest just moving the R3 1.25u Tab into the Additional kit to make it easier for everyone.


Additional Kit
F13, more 40s Support, alternate Tsangan support.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/OZlqAUV.jpg)

• Two boards use R3 1.5u Enter: Pearl and Minivan (and its derivatives). In addition to this key, Pearl also requires a R3 1.5u Tab/Fn, and Minivan requires R2 1.75u Backspace (included) and R4 1.75u Lock. So, as it stands, the support for these boards is incomplete, and consequently, including just R3 1.5u Enter and R2 1.75u Backspace on their own doesn't do much good. You have two options here:
  • add the missing keys (R3 1.5u Fn, R4 1.75u Lock) and have full support for these boards and their derivatives; or
  • remove R3 1.5u Enter and R2 1.75u Backspace as they are otherwise not useful.
I'd like to add that R4 1.75u Lock can also be used to cover: JD40/JD45/Prime_L, as a second 1.75u spacekey (more on that below); Dimple, as a second 1.75u Shift; and Filco Minila, when combined with a 3u space from the spacebar kit. This, together with the popularity of the two aforementioned boards in the 40% space, makes option 1 the better choice imo.

• I think this kit needs more in the way of ortho support. At least a R3 Enter, R3 Esc and R2 Tab (all 1u).
The thing is that the Planck/Preonic coverage is inconsistent at the moment: the kit has a R4 Enter, which is used on the default OLKB layout, but it doesn't have R2 Tab, R3 Esc which are also part of that layout. On the other hand, a lot of people prefer to use the more familiar R2 Esc and R3 Tab, but then R3 Enter is missing. It'd be nice to have all of these options.
Ideally there would also be a second R4 1u Ctrl and second R4 1u Shift. A generic key like Code could come in handy for these.

• The 1.5u Shift seems a bit of an odd inclusion for such a small kit. This would be useful only for Evolv (which isn't out yet) and UT47.2.


Spacebar Kit
Split bars, 6u bars, 3u bars

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/sGUeh5K.jpg)

• If you aren't going to include the R4 1.75u Lock key in Additional, then the 1.75u space can be removed from here as it's pretty much useless — the only keyboard that uses a single 1.75u space is Vortex Core. No keyboards larger than 40% use this spacebar size.

Thanks for the feedback, I've taken it into consideration and made some changes per your reccomendations for the base kit, after reading your feedback about the additional kit I understand that the kit as it was would not support enough 40s boards and adding more keys to the base kit would rise base cost price. After some discussion with the vendor I think the best option is to unfortunately not run the kit due to risk of low sales and stuggles from a new keyset vendor. I have also adjusted the correct term for the r3 1.25u tab and called it minimal support for 50% boards.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Final Kit Update!
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 03 September 2020, 05:52:15
Thanks for the feedback, I've taken it into consideration and made some changes per your reccomendations for the base kit, after reading your feedback about the additional kit I understand that the kit as it was would not support enough 40s boards and adding more keys to the base kit would rise base cost price. After some discussion with the vendor I think the best option is to unfortunately not run the kit due to risk of low sales and stuggles from a new keyset vendor. I have also adjusted the correct term for the r3 1.25u tab and called it minimal support for 50% boards.

It's unfortunate to see the kit dropped altogether. I'd like to suggest an alternative approach that I think could work for everyone; but in the meantime, if the kits stay as is, the following keys can be removed from Spacebars as they are only used on 40% boards, which are no longer supported:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Final Kit Update!
Post by: scoopbb on Thu, 03 September 2020, 16:42:12
well at least you made it easy to save money
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: Tyson on Sun, 06 September 2020, 10:36:40
Group Buy Date is set for November 2020!

Thank you everyone who is interested in the keyset! Can't wait to make this set a reality! It's going to be fantastic!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: eeveeatemyessay on Sun, 06 September 2020, 12:51:58
Looks absolutely beautiful. Sadly, with no NorDe, not buying. ANSI doesn't work for me. :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: nu_types on Sun, 06 September 2020, 12:55:07
Looking forward to the GB.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: kiwi03 on Sun, 06 September 2020, 13:16:19
I'm in!

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: Sshimosawa on Sun, 06 September 2020, 13:37:16
Yup. In.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: Tyson on Mon, 14 September 2020, 17:13:15
Added a row numbers along with unit numbers for any caps that are larger than 1u. Everything is on track for the november GB date! First deskmat samples arrived and were too saturated, getting new samples made to adjust the colors.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: stein3 on Tue, 15 September 2020, 00:17:57
Added a row numbers along with unit numbers for any caps that are larger than 1u. Everything is on track for the november GB date! First deskmat samples arrived and were too saturated, getting new samples made to adjust the colors.
Could you label the 0.5u keys as well, just so I can be sure?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: Ramen Champ on Tue, 15 September 2020, 00:26:55
Nice set Tyson! Looking forward to the GB :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: Suavity on Tue, 15 September 2020, 00:33:37
3U included in the space bars kit is such a treat. Great job on the kit! Hopefully more designers incorporate 3U into their designs.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: whitty on Tue, 15 September 2020, 12:14:30
Pls consider stepped “caps lock” vs stepped “caps” 


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 15 September 2020, 13:28:22
Pls consider stepped “caps lock” vs stepped “caps”

Asking for future reference: Is there any particular reason why you prefer stepped Caps↲Lock over Caps? Note that all other keys in the set are single-line.
Title: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: whitty on Tue, 15 September 2020, 14:34:11
It looks better to me, OG keysets use it, and tab isn’t single lined. Have you seen what stepped “caps” looks like on a board? It just looks off to me, like it’s missing something haha. It feels like “innovation” for the sake of innovation, without actually having any benefit


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 15 September 2020, 16:40:54
It looks better to me, OG keysets use it, and tab isn’t single lined. Have you seen what stepped “caps” looks like on a board? It just looks off to me, like it’s missing something haha. It feels like “innovation” for the sake of innovation, without actually having any benefit

Thanks for the explanation; noted.

I also wanna give my own subjective opinion:

I think that single-line Caps looks a lot better since otherwise the left side mods look too dense/text-heavy compared to the right side. And Tab actually exacerbates that problem.

OG sets also use some totally scuffed legends (just look at almost any intl OG set), so that's not really an argument — just because it's OG doesn't mean that it's good.

I agree with keeping everything OG-style if that's the look you're going for (e.g. GMK Hype Abused); but if that's not the case (like here), I don't think there's really any point.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: whitty on Tue, 15 September 2020, 16:58:04
It looks better to me, OG keysets use it, and tab isn’t single lined. Have you seen what stepped “caps” looks like on a board? It just looks off to me, like it’s missing something haha. It feels like “innovation” for the sake of innovation, without actually having any benefit

Thanks for the explanation; noted.

I also wanna give my own subjective opinion:

I think that single-line Caps looks a lot better since otherwise the left side mods look too dense/text-heavy compared to the right side. And Tab actually exacerbates that problem.

OG sets also use some totally scuffed legends (just look at almost any intl OG set), so that's not really an argument — just because it's OG doesn't mean that it's good.

I agree with keeping everything OG-style if that's the look you're going for (e.g. GMK Hype Abused); but if that's not the case (like here), I don't think there's really any point.

Well there’s a reason ansi OG dyesubs are some of the most sought after keycaps in this hobby; people think they look good (including myself)

I completely disagree with the mods looking dense/text heavy with stepped “caps lock”, and I think it actually looks way too bare with a single line stepped caps lock. Look at analog dreams (it’s the first set I’ve seen come out with stepped “caps”), and it completely turned me off in buying the set. So, to me, it feels like “fixing” a problem that doesn’t exist, and actually makes the set less attractive

I’m also the type of person who heavily prefers OG icon mods vs centered icon mods, and I won’t buy a set with centered icons ever again. I just prefer the classic aesthetics


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: FootFingers on Tue, 15 September 2020, 17:02:26
Very nice, commenting so I dont miss
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: holer on Wed, 16 September 2020, 06:38:12


Very nice looking set, the colors look so subtle :)

Looks absolutely beautiful. Sadly, with no NorDe, not buying. ANSI doesn't work for me. :(

.. but the NorDe is also a deal breaker for me.

Good luck with the GB :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 18 September 2020, 12:17:49
Received quotes for the two kits from GMK last week. I wasn't too happy with the pricing so I reworked the kits and brought back the additional kit with corrected compatibility! Here are the kits as they stand right now. I am waiting to hear full feedback from Konstantin and DepletedVespine you guys here in the thread before I give it a full send for renders and to GMK for the second quote. I feel more confident with the kits now that we can achieve a really good base kit price along with good prices for all the other kits! The only thing I wish I could have provided was accents to the Additional kit for 40s users, unfortunately do to how many accents there are I will not be providing support for any specific board. It's either everyone gets accents or nobody at all. I do not have any favoritism to any 40s boards. Here are the KLE renders I have made:

The set is still Icon + Text, I just couldn't figure out how to change it on KLE!

Base Kit

(https://i.imgur.com/G5OjkwS.png)

Additional Kit

(https://i.imgur.com/oyKP9XU.png)

Spacebars Kit

(https://i.imgur.com/q1dQl6G.png)

Accent Kit

(https://i.imgur.com/gRHBbba.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 18 September 2020, 13:46:12
My Minimal and Honeywell & Co set love you for separating the accents


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: Qarmaa on Fri, 18 September 2020, 14:51:04
Thanks for separating accents. Definitely in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: packman86 on Fri, 18 September 2020, 15:13:48
Received quotes for the two kits from GMK last week. I wasn't too happy with the pricing so I reworked the kits and brought back the additional kit with corrected compatibility! Here are the kits as they stand right now. I am waiting to hear full feedback from Konstantin and DepletedVespine you guys here in the thread before I give it a full send for renders and to GMK for the second quote. I feel more confident with the kits now that we can achieve a really good base kit price along with good prices for all the other kits! The only thing I wish I could have provided was accents to the Additional kit for 40s users, unfortunately do to how many accents there are I will not be providing support for any specific board. It's either everyone gets accents or nobody at all. I do not have any favoritism to any 40s boards. Here are the KLE renders I have made:

Base Kit

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/G5OjkwS.png)

Additional Kit

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/oyKP9XU.png)

Spacebars Kit

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/q1dQl6G.png)

Accent Kit

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gRHBbba.png)

I love everything about this update. Removal of icon mods makes the set much cleaner!
EDIT: Corrected by OP in comment below.

And thanks for keeping AltGr :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 18 September 2020, 15:16:03
Received quotes for the two kits from GMK last week. I wasn't too happy with the pricing so I reworked the kits and brought back the additional kit with corrected compatibility! Here are the kits as they stand right now. I am waiting to hear full feedback from Konstantin and DepletedVespine you guys here in the thread before I give it a full send for renders and to GMK for the second quote. I feel more confident with the kits now that we can achieve a really good base kit price along with good prices for all the other kits! The only thing I wish I could have provided was accents to the Additional kit for 40s users, unfortunately do to how many accents there are I will not be providing support for any specific board. It's either everyone gets accents or nobody at all. I do not have any favoritism to any 40s boards. Here are the KLE renders I have made:

Base Kit

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/G5OjkwS.png)

Additional Kit

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/oyKP9XU.png)

Spacebars Kit

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/q1dQl6G.png)

Accent Kit

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gRHBbba.png)

I love everything about this update. Removal of icon mods makes the set much cleaner!

And thanks for keeping AltGr :)

Op, actually the icon + text mods are still in the set. I couldn't figure out how to get them on KLE. 😅 And yeah! For sure! I made sure to change one of the 1.25u Alts to Alt Gr too!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: huey on Fri, 18 September 2020, 15:57:38
Hi,

Is the GMK 3K color = White?

3k is quite white, it might be a very very light grey.
(https://i.imgur.com/cMhcjuI.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: ideus on Fri, 18 September 2020, 16:10:35
Hi,

Is the GMK 3K color = White?

3k is quite white, it might be a very very light grey.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/cMhcjuI.jpg)





Is light grey, with less yellow than L9.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 18 September 2020, 16:38:11
Hi,

Is the GMK 3K color = White?

3k is quite white, it might be a very very light grey.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/cMhcjuI.jpg)





Is light grey, with less yellow than L9.

IMO I'd say the color is more of a Off-White than a light grey. 2M is more of the light grey color to me than 3K.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Group Buy Starts November 2020!
Post by: Tyson on Mon, 28 September 2020, 21:47:38
Reworked kits rendered! Sending these to GMK for final quotes! Will update everyone once prices are set, still got one more thing to be revealed. ;)

Base Kit
Support standard layouts, UK ISO Support, Full Size, TKLs, 75s, 65s, WKL boards, minimal 50s support and more!

(https://i.imgur.com/24J0xSM.png)

Additional Kit
40s support

(https://i.imgur.com/7b0IC8k.png)

Accent Kit
Colored Accents

(https://i.imgur.com/cUhWkmj.png)

Spacebar Kit
Split bars, 6u bars, 3u bars

(https://i.imgur.com/nvFRaul.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | All kits reworked, GB: Nov. 2020!
Post by: nvh2092 on Thu, 01 October 2020, 15:20:36
Please consider adding 1.25u Fn key to the base kit as most of TKL and full size keyboards use this key. Your set looks so good, I don't want to pass on this because of no 1.25u Fn key :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | All kits reworked, GB: Nov. 2020!
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 02 October 2020, 15:06:47
Please consider adding 1.25u Fn key to the base kit as most of TKL and full size keyboards use this key. Your set looks so good, I don't want to pass on this because of no 1.25u Fn key :(

1.25u menu is going to be changed to fn.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | All kits reworked, GB: Nov. 2020!
Post by: nvh2092 on Sat, 03 October 2020, 11:20:43
Please consider adding 1.25u Fn key to the base kit as most of TKL and full size keyboards use this key. Your set looks so good, I don't want to pass on this because of no 1.25u Fn key :(

1.25u menu is going to be changed to fn.
Thank you, definitely a buy  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | All kits reworked, GB: Nov. 2020!
Post by: Sandy on Sat, 03 October 2020, 16:42:14
Wow I love the brutalist vibes I'm getting very sort of concrete/architectural aesthetic with really nice accents. I might be a bit spent on sets but I like this a lot!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | All kits reworked, GB: Nov. 2020!
Post by: rondg on Sat, 03 October 2020, 18:09:18
No more 1.5u right shift?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | All kits reworked, GB: Nov. 2020!
Post by: Tyson on Sat, 03 October 2020, 19:18:10
No more 1.5u right shift?

As far as I'm aware, only 1 board will be able to use it, the Evolv. While I love Nathan for all the work he's done for me unfortunately it was not justified to keep it in the set. Sorry.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | All kits reworked, GB: Nov. 2020!
Post by: nvh2092 on Tue, 06 October 2020, 15:32:11
Hi, I know this is up to your decision but I recommend having another EU vendor like Oblotzky or Mykeyboard since they use Euro. Prototypist uses Gbp which need converting to Euro, resulting in an increase in price since banks will take a conversion fee. I look at their website but don't see the option of converting Gbp to Euro. Also,  this is entirely subjective, Prototypist does not have paypal as payment method, I will have to pay directly directly with my credit card which is not very secure, Google pay for some reasons does not accept my BNP or Orange card and I don't use Iphone  :( . I really want this set and I hope you consider adding a second EU vendor.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | All kits reworked, GB: Nov. 2020!
Post by: holer on Sun, 11 October 2020, 12:25:11
Hi, I know this is up to your decision but I recommend having another EU vendor like Oblotzky or Mykeyboard since they use Euro. Prototypist uses Gbp which need converting to Euro, resulting in an increase in price since banks will take a conversion fee. I look at their website but don't see the option of converting Gbp to Euro. Also,  this is entirely subjective, Prototypist does not have paypal as payment method, I will have to pay directly directly with my credit card which is not very secure, Google pay for some reasons does not accept my BNP or Orange card and I don't use Iphone  :( . I really want this set and I hope you consider adding a second EU vendor.

Let me add another reason: there is currently no trade agreement between EU and UK in 2021. This means that VAT, duty, and taxes could be added again, which is an absolute dealbreaker for any current GB using a UK based vendor.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | All kits reworked, GB: Nov. 2020!
Post by: Tyson on Sun, 11 October 2020, 23:38:26
Hi, I know this is up to your decision but I recommend having another EU vendor like Oblotzky or Mykeyboard since they use Euro. Prototypist uses Gbp which need converting to Euro, resulting in an increase in price since banks will take a conversion fee. I look at their website but don't see the option of converting Gbp to Euro. Also,  this is entirely subjective, Prototypist does not have paypal as payment method, I will have to pay directly directly with my credit card which is not very secure, Google pay for some reasons does not accept my BNP or Orange card and I don't use Iphone  :( . I really want this set and I hope you consider adding a second EU vendor.

Let me add another reason: there is currently no trade agreement between EU and UK in 2021. This means that VAT, duty, and taxes could be added again, which is an absolute dealbreaker for any current GB using a UK based vendor.

You guys are not the first ones to come to me with this worry, it is definitely something that I was not aware of until recently. I am currently going to discuss this and talk to a few people and work on getting something going with another EU vendor so that you guys will not be hit with such hard fees. I apologize for the issue and hope to resolve it before the GB starts.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | All kits reworked, GB: Nov. 2020!
Post by: nvh2092 on Mon, 12 October 2020, 03:05:29
Hi, I know this is up to your decision but I recommend having another EU vendor like Oblotzky or Mykeyboard since they use Euro. Prototypist uses Gbp which need converting to Euro, resulting in an increase in price since banks will take a conversion fee. I look at their website but don't see the option of converting Gbp to Euro. Also,  this is entirely subjective, Prototypist does not have paypal as payment method, I will have to pay directly directly with my credit card which is not very secure, Google pay for some reasons does not accept my BNP or Orange card and I don't use Iphone  :( . I really want this set and I hope you consider adding a second EU vendor.

Let me add another reason: there is currently no trade agreement between EU and UK in 2021. This means that VAT, duty, and taxes could be added again, which is an absolute dealbreaker for any current GB using a UK based vendor.

You guys are not the first ones to come to me with this worry, it is definitely something that I was not aware of until recently. I am currently going to discuss this and talk to a few people and work on getting something going with another EU vendor so that you guys will not be hit with such hard fees. I apologize for the issue and hope to resolve it before the GB starts.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | All kits reworked, GB: Nov. 2020!
Post by: WiseLucas on Tue, 13 October 2020, 11:33:28
This set is a big yes
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | All kits reworked, GB: Nov. 2020!
Post by: rondg on Tue, 13 October 2020, 13:51:09
No more 1.5u right shift?

As far as I'm aware, only 1 board will be able to use it, the Evolv. While I love Nathan for all the work he's done for me unfortunately it was not justified to keep it in the set. Sorry.

There are actually 2. Box 75 is another one.

EDIT: Nope. Nevermind. Don't mind me. Only the Evolv has this layout.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Pricing Announced, GB: Nov. 4th 2020!
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 14 October 2020, 01:52:37
Group Buy starts November 4th!

Here's the pricing for the kits too!

Keyset Pricing
NA [Space] (USD)
Base Kit- $120.00
Accents Kit- $40.00
Additional Kit - $35.00
Spacebars Kit- $25.00

CA [AuraMech] (USD)
Base Kit- $120.00
Accents Kit- $40.00
Additional Kit - $35.00
Spacebars Kit- $25.00

EU [Prototypist] (GBP)
Base Kit- £110.00 inc VAT
Accents Kit- £37.00 inc VAT
Additional Kit - £32.00 inc VAT
Spacebars Kit- £23.00 inc VAT

ASIA [iLumKB] (SGD)
Base Kit- $175.00
Accents Kit- $58.00
Additional Kit - $51.00
Spacebars Kit- $36.00

Oceania [SwitchKeys] (AUD)
Base Kit- $185.00
Accents Kit- $63.00
Additional Kit - $55.00
Spacebars Kit- $35.00
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Pricing Announced, GB: Nov. 4th 2020!
Post by: SunsOut on Wed, 14 October 2020, 02:50:39
Is GMK 3k similar to RAMA Soya color? Like a cream/off-white or a gray?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Pricing Announced, GB: Nov. 4th 2020!
Post by: hong@RebultKeyboards on Wed, 14 October 2020, 03:26:54
Group Buy starts November 4th!

Here's the pricing for the kits too!

Keyset Pricing
NA [Space] (USD)
Base Kit- $120.00
Accents Kit- $40.00
Additional Kit - $35.00
Spacebars Kit- $25.00

CA [AuraMech] (USD)
Base Kit- $120.00
Accents Kit- $40.00
Additional Kit - $35.00
Spacebars Kit- $25.00

EU [Prototypist] (GBP)
Base Kit- £110.00 inc VAT
Accents Kit- £37.00 inc VAT
Additional Kit - £32.00 inc VAT
Spacebars Kit- £23.00 inc VAT

ASIA [iLumKB] (SGD)
Base Kit- $175.00
Accents Kit- $58.00
Additional Kit - $51.00
Spacebars Kit- $36.00

Oceania [SwitchKeys] (AUD)
Base Kit- $185.00
Accents Kit- $63.00
Additional Kit - $55.00
Spacebars Kit- $35.00

Great! Can't wait! Really clean set and like the accents. Thinking about getting this as a lil birthday present for myself  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Pricing Announced, GB: Nov. 4th 2020!
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 14 October 2020, 03:52:39
Is GMK 3k similar to RAMA Soya color? Like a cream/off-white or a gray?

Potentially, Fundamentals would probably look really nice on the board!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Pricing Announced, GB: Nov. 4th 2020!
Post by: alper_maestro on Thu, 15 October 2020, 05:51:05
Pricing for MyKeyboard.eu?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Pricing Announced, GB: Nov. 4th 2020!
Post by: nvh2092 on Thu, 15 October 2020, 07:24:56
Pricing for MyKeyboard.eu?

As much as I like to have mykeyboard.eu as a proper EU vendor, I don't see it listed in runner post.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Pricing Announced, GB: Nov. 4th 2020!
Post by: alper_maestro on Thu, 15 October 2020, 08:35:49
Pricing for MyKeyboard.eu?

As much as I like to have mykeyboard.eu as a proper EU vendor, I don't see it listed in runner post.
It was added afterwards after some feedback from others.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Pricing Announced, GB: Nov. 4th 2020!
Post by: Tyson on Thu, 15 October 2020, 12:03:19
Pricing for MyKeyboard.eu?

As much as I like to have mykeyboard.eu as a proper EU vendor, I don't see it listed in runner post.
It was added afterwards after some feedback from others.

They were not added as a vendor, I apologize for the confusion.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Pricing Announced, GB: Nov. 4th 2020!
Post by: Tyson on Tue, 27 October 2020, 23:08:14
Things are ramping up for Fundamentals! The GB starts in a week and things are moving very fast for all of my sets and my personal life! Just wanted to let you guys know that there is now a Fundamentals theme on https://monkeytype.com/!!!! We are still waiting on updates for the Salvun caps along with the cables for the set, but all will be unveiled when the GB starts! We have confirmation that the third round of deskmat samples are a lot more accurate to the colors than the original samples! We will more than likely use those for the deskmats that we will sell during the GB. I also want to announce that there will be giveaways during the GB for the set along with a potential day 1 price discount for all base kit purchased on spacecables site! I'll post more info on that discount towards the beginning of the GB!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fundamentals | Pricing Announced, GB: Nov. 4th 2020!
Post by: Tyson on Sun, 01 November 2020, 22:28:16
Group Buy thread has been approved! Locking this thread, follow the set here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109361.0