[IC] GMK 'Miami Nights'

[IvanIvanovich]

NOW IN GROUPBUY!

[Joey Quinn]

Yup! I'm sold.

[slickmamba]

Excited!  The alphas look amazing!  Can't wait for the patch and CMYK sets too! 

[Lastpilot]

I'm in.

[exitfire401]

I'll have to see if I can scratch the cash together in time for it. If so, I'll highly consider a set.

[jdcarpe]

A-profile and F-profile?? No thanks.

[Halverson]

Very excited for this, will be my first cap set purchase in a long time. Liking the CMYK V2 idea as well. Now to hunt down older GMK sets to go with this eventually....

[VesperSAINT]

BLARGH! I'm really liking this... Has 1800 support too... I'm so into this...

[Halverson]

A-profile and F-profile?? No, thanks.

FTFY

[jonathanyu]

I like this idea, but I can already see people complain about the non-uniform top row and 1.25 bottom row.

I really like this though, I am in

[BunnyLake]

great set sir, id be in for 4

[iamtootallforthis]

Will probably be in for CMYK v2 and the spacebars.

[billnye]

Any possibility of adding scoops?

[IvanIvanovich]

True, but being on different blocks with separation on most boards it shouldn't be very disruptive to have B profile 1.25 and A profile cursor and numblock. Adding the B profile for those as well would raise the price dramatically. Likewise the F keys being F profile with the separation with the E profile print/scroll/break keys shouldn't be a real problem in my view. Again cost and availability come into play there as well. I just feel it would be neat to have something different, and that is generally quite difficult to find even in the used market.

Of course the set will have scoops, for whatever reason GMK keeps putting those bar style on the mock ups.

[nubbinator]

I really like the look, just my two cents:

I'm with jd on not having hybrid profiles. 

Like Bill asked, scoops please.  And if you're going old school profiles, scoops are more appropriate.  You addressed it already.

The Enter key on the num pad looks ****y and I'm not keen on return over Enter.  That and they should match legends IMO.

A 60% symmetry option would be nice and it's only two more keys (or one if you do Esc).

The function row should match most traditional sets and have F5-F8 legends be cyan. 

The Spanish isn't my favorite, but it's not a deal breaker, it just doesn't look as clean.

Lastly, any thought of "making it dusky" and mixing black and dark grey or doing the dark grey?  I think that would also work better with the inverted CMYK mods, but either looks great.

[taylordcraig]

Holy **** I want the alphas more than anything in the world. I've always wanted Pulse GMK. [bbq comes insanely close to GMK cyan]
Scoops are tight.

[radio_killah]

God damnit.. I'm in.

My comments though:

- Not a fan of the spanish accents.
- Unsure of the profile, I think it should be the same as the Dolch you did
- Blank windowed keys seem unnecessary, they are fine on caps lock, num luck, scroll lock only
- Not sure but I see 1800 support, which is nice
- Love the semi HHKB support

[sethk_]

I would be in as long as it is affordable. A bit more interesting than classic WoB, but still the classiness of WoB

[Karura]

Ivan, this set is cool as ****, but I have a request.

Two things:

THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING 1800 MODS! I LOVE YOU FOR THAT!

Could we please get windowed caps/scroll/num lock keys as an option?

I'm just envisioning a PERFECT TX1800 (Black case) with Cyan LEDs and Magenta LEDs, and I wish to also have the windowed padprint keycaps to top it off, to show off the LEDs.

[HoffmanMyster]

I'm in, though I'm not a huge fan of the vertical Enter legend.

Lastly, any thought of "making it dusky" and mixing blank and dark grey or doing the dark grey?  I think that would also work better with the inverted CMYK mods, but either looks great.

^  +1

[nubbinator]

I'm in, though I'm not a huge fan of the vertical Enter legend.

Nor am I, hence the statement that it's ****y.

[Karura]

+1 on the vertical enter, not a big fan.

[HoffmanMyster]

I'm in, though I'm not a huge fan of the vertical Enter legend.

Nor am I, hence the statement that it's ****y.

Woops, I skipped that line while speed-reading your response.   

Basically, I agree with nubs. 

[inanis]

I'm really liking the look of this set. It feels subtly flashy, which is the best kind of flashy. I would agree with comments regarding that the numpad enter and that there should be keys for 60% symmetry.

[ShardZer0]

Sweet! I'm in for atleast 1.

Edit: that vertical enter is not my thing, hope you can change that...

[CPTBadAss]

I'm way into this set. Instant cop for me. Would also like to see B profile.

[random_rockets]

TX800 support? countme in

[Blackehart]

Interested
That numpad enter looks tacky as f***, imo.

[pichu23]

oh boy, the mock up looks pretty. interested!

[LXXXIX]

I like this way more than the other Miami sets. This is a perfect balance between unique, elegance,  and bold.

As a native Floridian I respect the legends, and I think you should run it.

By any chance would you be able to include the same pink and green into a spacebar? Maybe 1 of each would? Pweety pwese?

[cryptowillem]

Right off the bat, I like the style. I like that it's not as flashy as Miami -- more subdued.

Consider me interested. I'll follow this project closely.

[naasfu]

+1 for the vertical numpad Enter.  It looks a bit wonky to me.

Sorry, but I'm not too knowledgeable about old school profiles.  What are the reasons for the differing profiles for on the top row?  I've seen Ivan's previous comments about GMK not having Prt/Scroll/Break legends in F profile (I think this is what he was saying, please correct me if I'm wrong), but why not do the Esc/F* row in E profile?  Is it for the aesthetics of having a raised top row, with the tradeoff that they don't match the right side?  And I'm guessing that the reason for A profile on the bottom is to mimic old school Cherry boards?  Personally I don't think I'll mind the varying profiles too much, and I'm mostly curious about the reasoning.

Anyways, I'm definitely in for everything.  This looks awesome.   Thanks, Ivan!

[Puddsy]

i am very with it

[Liar]

I am committed already

I had debated purchasing a Miami set before - now, I am glad I waited

[tjweir]

Can one of the R0 windowed keys be an 'Esc' ?
Not picky about the legend colour.

Pls bro, pls.

[Latin00032]

I like this set allot.

My only concern is if you have too many add-on packs. Most people will aim for the "base" set that includes most keys needed for most common keyboards.

People are going to be hard pressed to add one or two more kits.

[strict]

Interested in picking up a set, but am I right in reading that the bottom row is going to have mixed profiles for 125 layouts (like the TA set)? So we would end up with mixed F-row profiles and potentially mixed bottom row profiles? Sounds like it might end up looking janky.

[IvanIvanovich]

I would love to just have A profile for the entire bottom row but there isn't an option for that for 1.25 keys as the tooling doesn't exist at all. I've also seen some people rocking BSP RGB which come in A profile on an otherwise B profile bottom row. I assure you it's not really a big deal when there is separation as is common on almost every keyboard. Same goes with the F row function keys. If you think about it, it may actually be nice as you will be able to touch feel quite easily and notice a subtle difference without having to look as much. For those that have a lot of varied keycaps... if you put on some OEM profile keys on the F row, and SP DCS on the bottom row you could have a somewhat close approximation if you want to see for yourself. It's not 100%, but would give you a bit of an idea. It's not terrible... some people have been doing things like that on a pretty regular basis anyway with novelty keys and the like.

I would really like to get these done since A and F profile is not very common and difficult to find, and I am not getting a TA set because I don't like the faux yellowing colorway.

I like the vertical numpad Enter legend... this is what it looks like in real


Otherwise if everyone seriously hates it then it would become 'Invio' to go along with the Spanish doubleshot legends on the rest of the numblock.

I really would like to keep the Spanish on there, I think it goes along with being 'Miami' for one, plus it may add some appeal from our international users. It is one of the most widely spoken language on the planet after all. Plus it adds very little cost vs adding in additional language keys which no one wants for cost reasons.
Same goes for adding in keys for this and that... it will increase the cost and most people won't want that. As it stands the price should be pretty close to $100 while still offering some nice extras for certain use cases.
There will be no add on packs for this set. The minipacks are stand alones and don't really have anything to do with the full set... unless you want to add a C M Y spacebar but that is a low cost thing.


I'm not trying to be stubborn and shoot down feedback here, mostly just explaining my rational.

[Lastpilot]

My suggestions:

1. A normal 'E' key
2. Normal numpad Enter
3. Prt Sc, Scroll Lock, Break on R0
4. Having seen the dolch add-on set in person, Cyan on CR N9is probably one of my favorite combos. <3

With that being said, I am still on this buy with or without changes.

[nubbinator]

Hearing you, living the colors, still disagree. 

I'm not a fan of mixed profiles.  I've dive what you suggested in the past and it feels horrible.

Still think vertical enter looks awful.  Invio, IMO, is just as bad since there's no consistency with the Enter keys.  Plus you are now mixing and matching English and Spanish legends.  Spanish side printed legends works be better if you have to have them.

And with adding a symmetry key, it's a marginal cost for one cap and more people would be impacted than HHKB layout keys (and I love that layout).  Keys like that mage mite sense to me than blank windowed keys.

With that being said, I am still on this buy with or without changes. Having seen the dolch add-on set in person, Cyan on CR is probably one of my favorite combos. <3

Dolch is N9 mods and CC alphas I believe, not CR.  I'm a huge fan of that color, it's why I asked about a "ducky" version or doing N9 over CR on the CMY set.

[jdcarpe]

Yeah, as in the TA buy, I'm out if out has mixed profiles. I like my 104 keyboards, and my OCD won't allow for mixed profiles on the same row, regardless of separation.

It seems there are always assurances that it's "really no big deal" or "not an issue" when it obviously is a huge issue to some people. Others just won't say anything, because they are afraid to rock the boat, so the few of us who speak up have to represent all those others who won't.

[Lastpilot]

Dolch is N9 mods and CC alphas I believe, not CR.  I'm a huge fan of that color, it's why I asked about a "ducky" version or doing N9 over CR on the CMY set.

Oh damn, well then count N9 as one of my suggestions! Probably a long shot but who knows. :]

[HoffmanMyster]

I respect that you want to make this A profile since it hasn't been done yet (other than TA), but have you considered adding the respective B profile caps to give a complete set of B profile bottom row for 1.25 mods?  It would add a bit to the cost, but would avoid fragmenting buyers.  I know I'm a proponent of not adding a ton of caps, but if one "mission" of the set is to make A profile, I think it would make sense to at least consider adding the necessary caps to make B profile work as well.

[pasph]

'Invio' is Italian, 'Intro' is Spanish

[Lastpilot]

Damn, the mockups made it look like cyan on dark grey (N9), and I thought it made perfect sense since you made the add-on pack yourself. I didn't realize it would be pure black. Now I'm not sure I'll be buying this...

[Karura]

While I'm not preferring the mixed profile, I want to support this GB anyway due to the colourway, and 1800 support.

That said, I plan to do a hybrid winkey/winkeyless layout, and I would like the chance to match the profiles of both 1.5 and 1.25 if possible

[jdcarpe]

I respect that you want to make this A profile since it hasn't been done yet (other than TA), but have you considered adding the respective B profile caps to give a complete set of B profile bottom row for 1.25 mods?  It would add a bit to the cost, but would avoid fragmenting buyers.  I know I'm a proponent of not adding a ton of caps, but if one "mission" of the set is to make A profile, I think it would make sense to at least consider adding the necessary caps to make B profile work as well.

+1

Hoff manages to say things without sounding like an ass.

[strict]

I respect that you want to make this A profile since it hasn't been done yet (other than TA), but have you considered adding the respective B profile caps to give a complete set of B profile bottom row for 1.25 mods?  It would add a bit to the cost, but would avoid fragmenting buyers.  I know I'm a proponent of not adding a ton of caps, but if one "mission" of the set is to make A profile, I think it would make sense to at least consider adding the necessary caps to make B profile work as well.

+1

Hoff manages to say things without sounding like an ass.

I like this idea, even if it adds a little to the price I think its worth it to having matching profiles.

[naasfu]

Damn, the mockups made it look like cyan on dark grey (N9), and I thought it made perfect sense since you made the add-on pack yourself. I didn't realize it would be pure black. Now I'm not sure I'll be buying this...

I would also love to have this keyset on dark grey rather than black.  Black feels so harsh, and I love love the dark grey for Dolch.  Plus we could then use this set to mix and match with Dolch.

I respect that you want to make this A profile since it hasn't been done yet (other than TA), but have you considered adding the respective B profile caps to give a complete set of B profile bottom row for 1.25 mods?  It would add a bit to the cost, but would avoid fragmenting buyers.  I know I'm a proponent of not adding a ton of caps, but if one "mission" of the set is to make A profile, I think it would make sense to at least consider adding the necessary caps to make B profile work as well.

+1

Hoff manages to say things without sounding like an ass.

I like this idea, even if it adds a little to the price I think its worth it to having matching profiles.

I would be fine with added cost to get matching profiles.  But would the people who dislike mismatched bottom row profile be okay with the different profiles for the top row?   

[jdcarpe]

Damn, the mockups made it look like cyan on dark grey (N9), and I thought it made perfect sense since you made the add-on pack yourself. I didn't realize it would be pure black. Now I'm not sure I'll be buying this...

I would also love to have this keyset on dark grey rather than black.  Black feels so harsh, and I love love the dark grey for Dolch.  Plus we could then use this set to mix and match with Dolch.

I respect that you want to make this A profile since it hasn't been done yet (other than TA), but have you considered adding the respective B profile caps to give a complete set of B profile bottom row for 1.25 mods?  It would add a bit to the cost, but would avoid fragmenting buyers.  I know I'm a proponent of not adding a ton of caps, but if one "mission" of the set is to make A profile, I think it would make sense to at least consider adding the necessary caps to make B profile work as well.

+1

Hoff manages to say things without sounding like an ass.

I like this idea, even if it adds a little to the price I think its worth it to having matching profiles.

I would be fine with added cost to get matching profiles.  But would the people who dislike mismatched bottom row profile be okay with the different profiles for the top row?   

Personally, I like the black better. Sherry already did charred orange on dark grey.


And no, I'm not okay with the mismatched profiles for the F-row, either.