Post by: SuperVan on Sat, 01 December 2018, 11:27:38
I'm SuperVan. I'm pleased to announce that the Gsus Switches group buy is now live.
First of all, I want to express my sincere gratitude for friends who have supported me and apology to some Geekhack users who have supported me but I responded negatively. As you guys probably have seen on the IC thread, I received attacks from some with vicious intentions. These vicious attackers’ verbal abuse made me feel depressed. I regret having said something irrational when I feel I was being wronged. Sometimes I can't precisely express my thoughts because of a lack of solid grasp of English, compounded with cultural differences. However, some ill-intentioned attackers described me as a scammer, an unpleasant man, and a person who is only interested in profit in this cause. I countered their points with facts and most importantly, the timely delivery of Gsus. It is simply not fair to me to be defamed without any proof. In the United States, even the accused are innocent until proven guilty. I should have been offered the benefits of doubt, but not endless attacks. Before the actual testings of Nathan Kim, TOPCLACK and Manofinterests, some attackers said SuperVan is a scam. After these three well-regarded streamers confirmed that the Gsus switch is practically the same as the OG Panda, some continued to use other reasons to attack me. I stood up and fought hard to protect myself against these personal attacks. What’s interesting is, in this process, the attackers provided a lot of theories and arguments, but they never provided any actual proof. I think all they wanted to do was to force me to give up to run the GB. But at the end of the day, I think this will come to an end, and I am here, proudly announcing that Gsus switch will be available soon.
To put things into perspective, the past month is the most difficult time for me. I lost my elder cousin, who is also my best friend on Nov. 19th. He was only 31 years old. According to Chinese tradition, my family won't build a graveyard for him because he was an unmarried man and didn't have a child. His funeral service has been done in China, but I couldn't even attend his funeral. I knew nobody could feel my pain at that time, but I had experience traumatic events and this might have made me lost control in my emotions. That said, I feel very sorry for many people I have replied in a mad mood and I would like to apologize for that.
I'm a runner for sure, but It doesn't mean I'm not a keyboard fan. As a guy who have joined many group buys, what I hate most is waiting endlessly. So for this GB, I tried my best to improve the group buy process. The switches for the group buy are all purchase upfront with my own money, which also means I will ship your switches at the as soon as the GB payments are collected. I want to note that some people tried hard to emphasize the Gsus price will be 1.5 dollars. As a matter of fact, that is the starting price, and it can drop to $1. I am very confident about the quality of the Gsus and I am confident about my ability to deliver, so I have decided to change the pricing to a uniform price of $1 dollar per switch, with a MOQ of 10k. Note that this is products ready to ship, not something you typically need to wait six months to get (with a lot of anxiety and hassle). Considering my own financial and social costs I have incurred, and the risks I have taken, I think $1 is a reasonable price.
At the last, I hope you everyone will enjoy his or her life and enjoy the hobby of mechanical keyboards. You have the right to join or skip this GB, I will support all your decisions about the GB. I hope no one will detract this GB post with personal attacks, thank you.
IC thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97651.0
Reviews
Nathan Kim's Review:
Manofinterests's Review:
Quakemz's Review:
Group Buy Information (Updated)
Name: GSUS Linear Switch (New Panda Switch)
Spring weight: 67g buttom out
Price: $0.6/pcs
Paypal fee: 4.4%
Shipping fee: $15 worldwide (shipping from China)
Deadline: 2018/12/19
Shipping Time: start at 2018/12/20
Join the GB here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf_IsUwOlJuz3xap-mD9QTvrVRzUH_HbVYQCOeFFS6LhiYCoA/viewform?usp=sf_link
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 01 December 2018, 13:42:58
Post by: clickityClackity on Sat, 01 December 2018, 13:48:49
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 01 December 2018, 13:51:25
I literally had a dream about these 2 days ago. It's a sign!!
Today's the third day. Maybe it is a sign.
Post by: ChrisSwires on Sat, 01 December 2018, 13:51:52
And I'll end it buy saying at $1 - the same as the og panda. I'll be taking a punt and buying in.
Good look with the sale.
Post by: futurecrime on Sat, 01 December 2018, 13:58:04
Post by: txclack on Sat, 01 December 2018, 14:01:05
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sat, 01 December 2018, 14:07:05
Given the reviews - why don’t you sell just the housings ?
Post by: Mcnos on Sat, 01 December 2018, 14:13:04
It is very difficult to obtain switches on hand ready to ship and I believe 1$ is a pretty fair break given the amount of money and effort put forth however the means.
I'll be in on this to say the least.
Huey hot af.
Post by: Juiceion on Sat, 01 December 2018, 14:14:33
Post by: asphyxia on Sat, 01 December 2018, 14:16:03
Post by: ReverbSlush on Sat, 01 December 2018, 14:18:50
Quote
Deadline: 2018/12/26
I'm gonna hopefully pick some up if I get a little extra xmas $$ the day before. I have a bunch of trues so why not? :thumb:
Post by: phatty on Sat, 01 December 2018, 14:33:57
All the while going through some tough life challenges. There's been ups and downs, and Pandas are basically here to stay.
I was doubtful and had a little fun leading up to the end result.
Sure, there's been some back and forth but he's proved he will listen to the community. He's changed the moq from 50k to 10k, and dropped the starting price to $1.
Not much more can be said besides the fact that this is the jump in point. Pretty much exactly what you wanted - better than. They're not $5 panda, they're $1 gsus. Why wouldn't you buy?
Congratulations SuperVan.
Ps, don't think about the China buy, think about mechmarket.
Post by: snelltrail on Sat, 01 December 2018, 14:39:27
Will all the invoices be sent out once the GB ends? Or will they be sent out progressively since it is now one price? My wallet needs to recover from GMK Carbon haha.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 01 December 2018, 14:46:49
Hi Supervan. Sorry for the difficulties you’ve been going through, and thank you for all your hard work and investment in bringing these switches back to the market.
Will all the invoices be sent out once the GB ends? Or will they be sent out progressively since it is now one price? My wallet needs to recover from GMK Carbon haha.
In for about 550 dollars of GMK carbon, still hoping some kits get made
Post by: mrpetrov on Sat, 01 December 2018, 14:56:39
Post by: _ODIN_ on Sat, 01 December 2018, 14:58:08
Post by: OtherAndrew on Sat, 01 December 2018, 15:01:20
In for about 550 dollars of GMK carbon, still hoping some kits get made
weird flex but ok
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Sat, 01 December 2018, 15:03:21
Hi Supervan. Sorry for the difficulties you’ve been going through, and thank you for all your hard work and investment in bringing these switches back to the market.
Will all the invoices be sent out once the GB ends? Or will they be sent out progressively since it is now one price? My wallet needs to recover from GMK Carbon haha.
In for about 550 dollars of GMK carbon, still hoping some kits get made
Post by: kakan on Sat, 01 December 2018, 15:16:40
Post by: moonux on Sat, 01 December 2018, 15:24:18
Post by: JubJubCity on Sat, 01 December 2018, 15:54:27
Post by: Nigolski on Sat, 01 December 2018, 16:40:49
Post by: rondg on Sat, 01 December 2018, 16:52:16
Post by: Quakemz on Sat, 01 December 2018, 17:23:55
I know my stream was REALLY long, at around 5.5 hours, so I'll summarize my findings here:
My testing revealed very much what Manofinterests' science did. The switch feels virtually identical to the original. Mine actually feel smoother than the original, though perhaps a bit wobblier.
I made [lubed] Holy Pandas/Gsus' and compared them side by side with my original Holy Panda board. In terms of feel, it feelsgoodman.
If I had the time, I would have broken-in the switches to produce a smoother final version, but lubing certainly helped.
The only difference in feel I can notice is actually at the start of the upstroke, as depicted in Manofinterests' force graphs.
In real-world typing, it's basically impossible to notice, but if you intentionally press very slowly, you can feel the start of the upstroke is a tad sharper than the more original Holy Panda.
It's worth noting that, because of this, some larger stabilized keys CAN have trouble returning, depending on what spring you use. For this test, I used the stock 67g spring provided in the Gsus'.
If I press my stabilized enter key too slowly, it gets stuck. Pressing it normally gives it enough bounce to return properly, but this is still worth keeping in mind.
My other stabilized keys work well enough, but do feel a tad sluggish on return. Anyone desiring to use lighter than 67g springs in these should keep this in mind for their stabilized keys, at the very least.
55g springs worked well enough in my hand with the Holy Gsus, but probably not so on larger keys. 78g spring reduced the tactility for me, noticeably, so I avoided that.
I still want to test with 72g springs or perhaps a progressive rate 68g.
Please let me know if you have any questions!
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 01 December 2018, 18:04:54
Happy to see the uniform price. I think that sets people's minds more at ease and, it's very cool that people will get these SOON. :thumb:
I know my stream was REALLY long, at around 5.5 hours, so I'll summarize my findings here:
My testing revealed very much what Manofinterests' science did. The switch feels virtually identical to the original. Mine actually feel smoother than the original, though perhaps a bit wobblier.
I made [lubed] Holy Pandas/Gsus' and compared them side by side with my original Holy Panda board. In terms of feel, it feelsgoodman.
If I had the time, I would have broken-in the switches to produce a smoother final version, but lubing certainly helped.
The only difference in feel I can notice is actually at the start of the upstroke, as depicted in Manofinterests' force graphs.
In real-world typing, it's basically impossible to notice, but if you intentionally press very slowly, you can feel the start of the upstroke is a tad sharper than the more original Holy Panda.
It's worth noting that, because of this, some larger stabilized keys CAN have trouble returning, depending on what spring you use. For this test, I used the stock 67g spring provided in the Gsus'.
If I press my stabilized enter key too slowly, it gets stuck. Pressing it normally gives it enough bounce to return properly, but this is still worth keeping in mind.
My other stabilized keys work well enough, but do feel a tad sluggish on return. Anyone desiring to use lighter than 67g springs in these should keep this in mind for their stabilized keys, at the very least.
55g springs worked well enough in my hand with the Holy Gsus, but probably not so on larger keys. 78g spring reduced the tactility for me, noticeably, so I avoided that.
I still want to test with 72g springs or perhaps a progressive rate 68g.
Please let me know if you have any questions!
Thanks! By breaking in the switch, do you mean retooling the base?
Post by: Solotov on Sat, 01 December 2018, 18:25:45
Post by: Quakemz on Sat, 01 December 2018, 18:29:22
Happy to see the uniform price. I think that sets people's minds more at ease and, it's very cool that people will get these SOON. :thumb:
I know my stream was REALLY long, at around 5.5 hours, so I'll summarize my findings here:
My testing revealed very much what Manofinterests' science did. The switch feels virtually identical to the original. Mine actually feel smoother than the original, though perhaps a bit wobblier.
I made [lubed] Holy Pandas/Gsus' and compared them side by side with my original Holy Panda board. In terms of feel, it feelsgoodman.
If I had the time, I would have broken-in the switches to produce a smoother final version, but lubing certainly helped.
The only difference in feel I can notice is actually at the start of the upstroke, as depicted in Manofinterests' force graphs.
In real-world typing, it's basically impossible to notice, but if you intentionally press very slowly, you can feel the start of the upstroke is a tad sharper than the more original Holy Panda.
It's worth noting that, because of this, some larger stabilized keys CAN have trouble returning, depending on what spring you use. For this test, I used the stock 67g spring provided in the Gsus'.
If I press my stabilized enter key too slowly, it gets stuck. Pressing it normally gives it enough bounce to return properly, but this is still worth keeping in mind.
My other stabilized keys work well enough, but do feel a tad sluggish on return. Anyone desiring to use lighter than 67g springs in these should keep this in mind for their stabilized keys, at the very least.
55g springs worked well enough in my hand with the Holy Gsus, but probably not so on larger keys. 78g spring reduced the tactility for me, noticeably, so I avoided that.
I still want to test with 72g springs or perhaps a progressive rate 68g.
Please let me know if you have any questions!
Thanks! By breaking in the switch, do you mean retooling the base?
I just mean using it more, so it becomes a little smoother. For example, with linears I lube, I often use them stock/unlubed for a couple weeks to smooth them out a bit before lubing, because the better a switch is before lubing, the better it can be after lubing. If I had the time, I would have used them without lube for a while to forcibly smooth them out a little.
Post by: otanishock on Sat, 01 December 2018, 18:36:48
Happy to see the uniform price. I think that sets people's minds more at ease and, it's very cool that people will get these SOON. :thumb:Hi Quakemz. Thanks for your input. Quick question. How do these new Holy Gsus fare against the new v2 Zealios?
I know my stream was REALLY long, at around 5.5 hours, so I'll summarize my findings here:
My testing revealed very much what Manofinterests' science did. The switch feels virtually identical to the original. Mine actually feel smoother than the original, though perhaps a bit wobblier.
I made [lubed] Holy Pandas/Gsus' and compared them side by side with my original Holy Panda board. In terms of feel, it feelsgoodman.
If I had the time, I would have broken-in the switches to produce a smoother final version, but lubing certainly helped.
The only difference in feel I can notice is actually at the start of the upstroke, as depicted in Manofinterests' force graphs.
In real-world typing, it's basically impossible to notice, but if you intentionally press very slowly, you can feel the start of the upstroke is a tad sharper than the more original Holy Panda.
It's worth noting that, because of this, some larger stabilized keys CAN have trouble returning, depending on what spring you use. For this test, I used the stock 67g spring provided in the Gsus'.
If I press my stabilized enter key too slowly, it gets stuck. Pressing it normally gives it enough bounce to return properly, but this is still worth keeping in mind.
My other stabilized keys work well enough, but do feel a tad sluggish on return. Anyone desiring to use lighter than 67g springs in these should keep this in mind for their stabilized keys, at the very least.
55g springs worked well enough in my hand with the Holy Gsus, but probably not so on larger keys. 78g spring reduced the tactility for me, noticeably, so I avoided that.
I still want to test with 72g springs or perhaps a progressive rate 68g.
Please let me know if you have any questions!
Post by: dPaK on Sat, 01 December 2018, 18:38:09
Post by: Quakemz on Sat, 01 December 2018, 19:14:05
Happy to see the uniform price. I think that sets people's minds more at ease and, it's very cool that people will get these SOON. :thumb:Hi Quakemz. Thanks for your input. Quick question. How do these new Holy Gsus fare against the new v2 Zealios?
I know my stream was REALLY long, at around 5.5 hours, so I'll summarize my findings here:
My testing revealed very much what Manofinterests' science did. The switch feels virtually identical to the original. Mine actually feel smoother than the original, though perhaps a bit wobblier.
I made [lubed] Holy Pandas/Gsus' and compared them side by side with my original Holy Panda board. In terms of feel, it feelsgoodman.
If I had the time, I would have broken-in the switches to produce a smoother final version, but lubing certainly helped.
The only difference in feel I can notice is actually at the start of the upstroke, as depicted in Manofinterests' force graphs.
In real-world typing, it's basically impossible to notice, but if you intentionally press very slowly, you can feel the start of the upstroke is a tad sharper than the more original Holy Panda.
It's worth noting that, because of this, some larger stabilized keys CAN have trouble returning, depending on what spring you use. For this test, I used the stock 67g spring provided in the Gsus'.
If I press my stabilized enter key too slowly, it gets stuck. Pressing it normally gives it enough bounce to return properly, but this is still worth keeping in mind.
My other stabilized keys work well enough, but do feel a tad sluggish on return. Anyone desiring to use lighter than 67g springs in these should keep this in mind for their stabilized keys, at the very least.
55g springs worked well enough in my hand with the Holy Gsus, but probably not so on larger keys. 78g spring reduced the tactility for me, noticeably, so I avoided that.
I still want to test with 72g springs or perhaps a progressive rate 68g.
Please let me know if you have any questions!
Great question:
I think they are just different, so hard to nail down an overall winner. Here is how I feel about it: The tactility is fairly similar, but placed slightly differently. The Zealios v2 practically start you in the bump when you press, leaving a bit more dead space after the bump, if you ask me.
Holy Panda is basically the same kind of tactility, long round bump, but moved down slightly, so it feels like you start the tactility with the press instead of being "already in it", if that makes sense. Both offer a very nice round tactile bump that I love. Holy Panda tactility feels a bit longer to me, which I actually prefer, though the Zealios v2 have a bit larger of a bump and a bit more stability, while also being smoother, cheaper, and less effort than a Holy Panda. Trade-offs either way, methinks. Regardless, I will VERY happily use both, very often. :)
Post by: Shados on Sat, 01 December 2018, 19:46:08
I'll preface this by saying I'm sorry for your loss, and as difficult as it is, never take attacks, be they perceived or otherwise within keyboards personally. Everyone is chasing the best product, and sometimes thanks to the fact that we're behind the keyboard, comments come across as over personal or critical. That's not the intention. The sad fact of the group buy structure is that all the common person can do is theorise, so we do so. There was no personal malice meant on my part certainly.
And I'll end it buy saying at $1 - the same as the og panda. I'll be taking a punt and buying in.
Good look with the sale.
Just a correction, the original Pandas weren't $1/switch at GB, that was post-GB retail price. During GB, the 110 packs were $70 USD/ea, so about $0.64/switch.
Post by: neojonathan on Sat, 01 December 2018, 21:22:17
Post by: adb7 on Sat, 01 December 2018, 21:27:27
Post by: gasp on Sat, 01 December 2018, 21:31:50
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 01 December 2018, 21:36:41
I appreciate the lowered price for sure. The price being almost double the og is still hard to swallow, especially for something that will be used exclusively for modding, but at the end of the day I'll still probably join. I do agree that maybe running the housings as well at some point may be a good idea? Just a thought.
SuperVan indicates on Reddit that he has no plan to run a future Gsus GB: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/a25l37/gbgsus_new_panda_linear_switch/eavb3gp
Post by: mrpetrov on Sat, 01 December 2018, 22:00:36
I appreciate the lowered price for sure. The price being almost double the og is still hard to swallow, especially for something that will be used exclusively for modding, but at the end of the day I'll still probably join. I do agree that maybe running the housings as well at some point may be a good idea? Just a thought.
SuperVan indicates on Reddit that he has no plan to run a future Gsus GB: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/a25l37/gbgsus_new_panda_linear_switch/eavb3gp
That leaves a lot of wiggle room and (edit: I) wouldn't take it as gospel (ha!). His plans may change of course, or I suppose supervan may sell the molds or a grant a licence to use the molds to someone else.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 01 December 2018, 22:11:25
I appreciate the lowered price for sure. The price being almost double the og is still hard to swallow, especially for something that will be used exclusively for modding, but at the end of the day I'll still probably join. I do agree that maybe running the housings as well at some point may be a good idea? Just a thought.
SuperVan indicates on Reddit that he has no plan to run a future Gsus GB: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/a25l37/gbgsus_new_panda_linear_switch/eavb3gp
That leaves a lot of wiggle room and wouldn't take it as gospel (ha!). His plans may change of course, or I suppose supervan may sell the molds or a grant a licence to use the molds to someone else.
True. License it and count money :)
I am curious who holds the Panda/Gsus IP now (or is there one).
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 01 December 2018, 22:32:56
GB ending soon I think.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 01 December 2018, 22:55:44
I appreciate the lowered price for sure. The price being almost double the og is still hard to swallow, especially for something that will be used exclusively for modding, but at the end of the day I'll still probably join. I do agree that maybe running the housings as well at some point may be a good idea? Just a thought.
SuperVan indicates on Reddit that he has no plan to run a future Gsus GB: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/a25l37/gbgsus_new_panda_linear_switch/eavb3gp
That leaves a lot of wiggle room and wouldn't take it as gospel (ha!). His plans may change of course, or I suppose supervan may sell the molds or a grant a licence to use the molds to someone else.
True. License it and count money :)
I am curious who holds the Panda/Gsus IP now (or is there one).
the patent expired on the design, which is why we can have all these custom switches in the first place
Post by: lanyusea on Sun, 02 December 2018, 01:53:23
Post by: _ODIN_ on Sun, 02 December 2018, 02:44:30
Gesendet von meinem H8416 mit Tapatalk
Post by: Quakemz on Sun, 02 December 2018, 04:19:15
Do these have 5 pins (PCB mount)?
Gesendet von meinem H8416 mit Tapatalk
Judging by the samples me and the other reviewers got, no, they are plate-mount, sadly.
Post by: SuperVan on Sun, 02 December 2018, 04:55:08
Post by: audax989 on Sun, 02 December 2018, 05:22:20
Post by: phatty on Sun, 02 December 2018, 05:23:19
There are better linear switches
Post by: feralfoo on Sun, 02 December 2018, 05:34:08
Post by: audax989 on Sun, 02 December 2018, 06:18:34
Does it matter?
There are better linear switches
I would think so, I am paying $1 per switch and I expect it to be a decent linear at least.
edited
Post by: Stallon on Sun, 02 December 2018, 06:58:25
Post by: wixxzblu on Sun, 02 December 2018, 07:07:11
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 02 December 2018, 08:25:59
I would think so, I am paying $1 per switch and I expect it to be a decent linear at least.
Unlucky
Post by: Mcnos on Sun, 02 December 2018, 09:11:49
Does it matter?
There are better linear switches
I would think so, I am paying $1 per switch and I expect it to be a decent linear at least.
edited
In for a rude awakening.
Post by: clik_clak on Sun, 02 December 2018, 09:29:21
Does it matter?
There are better linear switches
I would think so, I am paying $1 per switch and I expect it to be a decent linear at least.
edited
Lol.
Huey compared the stems to the original for 1 reason....to show these aren't exact copies. If you noticed from that point forward, the stems weren't used for anything more than that.
If you're buying these to use them in stock form, there's about 20 other options that are cheaper/better for you.
You obviously watched a bit of the video, I'm not sure how came to the conclusion that these should be great, stock linears.
Post by: dario on Sun, 02 December 2018, 09:41:54
I am paying $1 per switch and I expect it to be a decent linear at least.
Don't act like a primma donna, we all know why people want these switches. If you want a good linear, buy Tealio/Healio, retooled/vintage black, or the best of them all, green ALPS.
If it was used for its original intention, nobody would ever heard of Panda switch.
Post by: blankertboy12 on Sun, 02 December 2018, 10:37:45
Post by: poodude on Sun, 02 December 2018, 10:45:51
Post by: iliketimex on Sun, 02 December 2018, 11:03:22
(excerpt) If you want a good linear, buy Tealio/Healio, retooled/vintage black, or the best of them all, green ALPS.
Gateron Yellow KS-8 Series at $0.20 still best bang for buck linear. Tealios are great if you want to spend some for smoothness.
Post by: clik_clak on Sun, 02 December 2018, 11:03:50
Great to see this come to fruition, albeit at quite a price premium. Would be cool to see a run of just housings as that's all it will ever be used for. I'll probably be in one 1 board worth. :thumb:
He already said on Reddit he is planning 1 run and 1 run only. The link is up higher in this thread.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 02 December 2018, 11:37:34
How many switches sold SuperVan and when the GB ends?
Looks like already over 10k sold based on the spreadsheet Supervan shared
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 02 December 2018, 12:24:34
Is this going to be the only run of these or do u plan to make more?
You're asking a reasonable question but truly there really is only one (honest) answer you're ever gonna get. Do you want people to save their pennies and potentially (or not) buy next round or would you rather them buy in now and then maybe even buy some more during R2, 3, 4 if they like what they received and/or have more money?
This is meant as no disrespect to SuperVan, it's also not to say there will surely be future rounds, I'm just saying it's not a very productive question to ask.
Post by: DefinePenguins on Sun, 02 December 2018, 12:40:11
Is this going to be the only run of these or do u plan to make more?
You're asking a reasonable question but truly there really is only one (honest) answer you're ever gonna get. Do you want people to save their pennies and potentially (or not) buy next round or would you rather them buy in now and then maybe even buy some more during R2, 3, 4 if they like what they received and/or have more money?
This is meant as no disrespect to SuperVan, it's also not to say there will surely be future rounds, I'm just saying it's not a very productive question to ask.
I'd say this isn't much of a productive answer either
Post by: Audiobs on Sun, 02 December 2018, 12:56:49
Post by: wholypantalones on Sun, 02 December 2018, 13:12:16
Does it matter?
There are better linear switches
I would think so, I am paying $1 per switch and I expect it to be a decent linear at least.
edited
I'll bet you $1 a switch from experience that you're pretty disappointed.
Post by: Oni74 on Sun, 02 December 2018, 13:55:07
Post by: dario on Sun, 02 December 2018, 16:28:21
At least Jesus does.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 02 December 2018, 16:31:56
What I find most fascinating about all this rollercoaster-switch-thriller story is that neither Invyr not mech27 ever said anything on this matter, not a single fuking word. (Well, except the initial statement that it's impossible to produce new switches.) It's thought-provoking stuff. I bet all three of these guys from the Panda story know a lot more than they were really ready to say. And we may never know what really happened.
At least Jesus does.
27 never posted on GH but he talked about a bit in slack and personally with me
tl;dr the og panda mold does exist, but its broken
dunno what the plan is there
EDIT: the mold is damaged, and is in the process of being repaired
there are more original pandas coming
MD is currently gearing up for production of stock holy pandas. Supposedly they will be available this month.
Post by: otanishock on Sun, 02 December 2018, 16:51:15
You are seriously not joking are you? Is that actually happening?
27 never posted on GH but he talked about a bit in slack and personally with me
tl;dr the og panda mold does exist, but its broken
dunno what the plan is there
EDIT: the mold is damaged, and is in the process of being repaired
there are more original pandas coming
MD is currently gearing up for production of stock holy pandas. Supposedly they will be available this month.
Post by: dario on Sun, 02 December 2018, 16:51:47
The mold is damaged, and is in the process of being repaired
there are more original pandas coming
MD is currently gearing up for production of stock holy pandas. Supposedly they will be available this month.
Thank you, I like what I'm hearing. Both of these are good news. Although, you might consider deleting your post because you're ruining this guy's business. XD
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 02 December 2018, 16:57:36
You are seriously not joking are you? Is that actually happening?
27 never posted on GH but he talked about a bit in slack and personally with me
tl;dr the og panda mold does exist, but its broken
dunno what the plan is there
EDIT: the mold is damaged, and is in the process of being repaired
there are more original pandas coming
MD is currently gearing up for production of stock holy pandas. Supposedly they will be available this month.
it has been confirmed to me by at least 2 people working on the project
Post by: dario on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:01:25
It'll happen eventually, and I intend to live for a long time.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:02:35
I'll just wait for the next step on the evolution path of the Panda switch - silent Halo stem. ;D
It'll happen eventually, and I intend to live for a long time.
might not have to wait as long as you think
Post by: wholypantalones on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:04:45
there are more original pandas coming
MD is currently gearing up for production of stock holy pandas. Supposedly they will be available this month.
Oof. I'll bet they're not in stock and ready to ship at the low, low price of these though.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:05:46
What I find most fascinating about all this rollercoaster-switch-thriller story is that neither Invyr not mech27 ever said anything on this matter, not a single fuking word. (Well, except the initial statement that it's impossible to produce new switches.) It's thought-provoking stuff. I bet all three of these guys from the Panda story know a lot more than they were really ready to say. And we may never know what really happened.
At least Jesus does.
27 never posted on GH but he talked about a bit in slack and personally with me
tl;dr the og panda mold does exist, but its broken
dunno what the plan is there
EDIT: the mold is damaged, and is in the process of being repaired
there are more original pandas coming
MD is currently gearing up for production of stock holy pandas. Supposedly they will be available this month.
Massdrop is selling stock holy pandas?
Interesting development
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:06:06
there are more original pandas coming
MD is currently gearing up for production of stock holy pandas. Supposedly they will be available this month.
Oof. I'll bet they're not in stock and ready to ship at the low, low price of these though.
considering the majority of the switch cost in the original GB went to making the molds, i think it's safe to assume that pricing will be very reasonable
Post by: otanishock on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:06:36
Very nice! Might actually sit out on this if that's the case. Never wanted to support this kind of group buy in the first place but I was kinda torn in between. Now I got valid reasons to be holding back then.
it has been confirmed to me by at least 2 people working on the project
Post by: dario on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:07:41
might not have to wait as long as you think
Sweet Lord (Jesus?), what are you doing to me man, this is 18+ stuff right there.
Post by: lendflat on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:08:10
Post by: phatty on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:08:34
If Holy Pandas are run by MD for $1 then that's already cheaper than this buy.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:11:18
What I find most fascinating about all this rollercoaster-switch-thriller story is that neither Invyr not mech27 ever said anything on this matter, not a single fuking word. (Well, except the initial statement that it's impossible to produce new switches.) It's thought-provoking stuff. I bet all three of these guys from the Panda story know a lot more than they were really ready to say. And we may never know what really happened.
At least Jesus does.
27 never posted on GH but he talked about a bit in slack and personally with me
tl;dr the og panda mold does exist, but its broken
dunno what the plan is there
EDIT: the mold is damaged, and is in the process of being repaired
there are more original pandas coming
MD is currently gearing up for production of stock holy pandas. Supposedly they will be available this month.
Massdrop is selling stock holy pandas?
Interesting development
they've been working on it for a few months, this GB has nothing to do with it
and they are using the orignal panda switch molds for it
Puddsy been spreading the same rumor since June.
(https://i.imgur.com/chzi4Y5.png) eat pant
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:11:36
Yeah, I'd say the price will be better than this.
If Holy Pandas are run by MD for $1 then that's already cheaper than this buy.
"significantly less"
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:14:53
Puddsy been spreading the same rumor since June.
Proof?
Will be interesting if MD will actually release holy panda this month
Post by: phatty on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:15:32
Yeah, I'd say the price will be better than this.
If Holy Pandas are run by MD for $1 then that's already cheaper than this buy.
"significantly less"
My point exactly. Combine the components, save the money.
On an unrelated side note, where does one buy Stocks in Massdrop?
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:16:26
Yeah, I'd say the price will be better than this.
If Holy Pandas are run by MD for $1 then that's already cheaper than this buy.
"significantly less"
My point exactly. Combine the components, save the money.
On an unrelated side note, where does one buy Stocks in Massdrop?
privately traded company
Puddsy been spreading the same rumor since June.
Proof?
Will be interesting if MD will actually release holy panda this month
i think it was actually may
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:17:44
What I find most fascinating about all this rollercoaster-switch-thriller story is that neither Invyr not mech27 ever said anything on this matter, not a single fuking word. (Well, except the initial statement that it's impossible to produce new switches.) It's thought-provoking stuff. I bet all three of these guys from the Panda story know a lot more than they were really ready to say. And we may never know what really happened.
At least Jesus does.
27 never posted on GH but he talked about a bit in slack and personally with me
tl;dr the og panda mold does exist, but its broken
dunno what the plan is there
EDIT: the mold is damaged, and is in the process of being repaired
there are more original pandas coming
MD is currently gearing up for production of stock holy pandas. Supposedly they will be available this month.
Massdrop is selling stock holy pandas?
Interesting development
they've been working on it for a few months, this GB has nothing to do with it
and they are using the orignal panda switch molds for itPuddsy been spreading the same rumor since June.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/chzi4Y5.png)eat pant
Interesting, I’d like to believe this will become true.
Did 27 say that the original mold was broken or edited somehow multiple times? Is it a new mold paid by MAssdrop?
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:19:01
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98414.0
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:19:52
Post by: dario on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:20:22
On an unrelated side note, where does one buy Stocks in Massdrop?
Stock market.
But they are probably private-owned, not a joint-stock company, so you can't do anything about it. Just a guess.
Post by: MonsterZero on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:21:58
What I find most fascinating about all this rollercoaster-switch-thriller story is that neither Invyr not mech27 ever said anything on this matter, not a single fuking word. (Well, except the initial statement that it's impossible to produce new switches.) It's thought-provoking stuff. I bet all three of these guys from the Panda story know a lot more than they were really ready to say. And we may never know what really happened.
At least Jesus does.
27 never posted on GH but he talked about a bit in slack and personally with me
tl;dr the og panda mold does exist, but its broken
dunno what the plan is there
EDIT: the mold is damaged, and is in the process of being repaired
there are more original pandas coming
MD is currently gearing up for production of stock holy pandas. Supposedly they will be available this month.
Massdrop is selling stock holy pandas?
Interesting development
they've been working on it for a few months, this GB has nothing to do with it
and they are using the orignal panda switch molds for itPuddsy been spreading the same rumor since June.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/chzi4Y5.png)eat pant
so THIS is why MD refused to sell stems straight to SuperVan and kbdfans, they wanna produce OG pandas themselves! thank you for coming up and confirming this :D
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:25:14
What I find most fascinating about all this rollercoaster-switch-thriller story is that neither Invyr not mech27 ever said anything on this matter, not a single fuking word. (Well, except the initial statement that it's impossible to produce new switches.) It's thought-provoking stuff. I bet all three of these guys from the Panda story know a lot more than they were really ready to say. And we may never know what really happened.
At least Jesus does.
27 never posted on GH but he talked about a bit in slack and personally with me
tl;dr the og panda mold does exist, but its broken
dunno what the plan is there
EDIT: the mold is damaged, and is in the process of being repaired
there are more original pandas coming
MD is currently gearing up for production of stock holy pandas. Supposedly they will be available this month.
Massdrop is selling stock holy pandas?
Interesting development
they've been working on it for a few months, this GB has nothing to do with it
and they are using the orignal panda switch molds for itPuddsy been spreading the same rumor since June.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/chzi4Y5.png)eat pant
so THIS is why MD refused to sell stems straight to SuperVan and kbdfans, they wanna produce OG pandas themselves! thank you for coming up and confirming this :D
As a matter of fact it’s just a rumor. Don’t think anyone confirmed anything.
We will find out soon if MD is making holy pandas available this month I guess.
Post by: phatty on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:25:35
On an unrelated side note, where does one buy Stocks in Massdrop?
Stock market.
But they are probably private-owned, not a joint-stock company, so you can't do anything about it. Just a guess.
Post by: MonsterZero on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:25:58
Quote
As a matter of fact it’s just a rumor. Don’t think anyone confirmed anything.
We will find out soon if MD is making holy pandas available this month I guess.
Doesn't seem like a rumor to me, I trust 27's reputation.
Post by: bluesclera on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:31:28
QuoteAs a matter of fact it’s just a rumor. Don’t think anyone confirmed anything.
We will find out soon if MD is making holy pandas available this month I guess.
Doesn't seem like a rumor to me, I trust 27's reputation.
Reputation?? Didnt 27 and Invyr say it was impossible? Seems like they were trying to undermine SuperVan from the start. And now this rumor about Massdrop....haha...all is fair in business i guess.
Post by: 27 on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:33:16
Post by: MonsterZero on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:33:52
QuoteAs a matter of fact it’s just a rumor. Don’t think anyone confirmed anything.
We will find out soon if MD is making holy pandas available this month I guess.
Doesn't seem like a rumor to me, I trust 27's reputation.
Reputation?? Didnt 27 and Invyr say it was impossible? Seems like they were trying to undermine SuperVan from the start. And now this rumor about Massdrop....haha...all is fair in business i guess.
True I guess time will tell.
Post by: MonsterZero on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:34:52
It's not a rumor.
👀👀👀
Post by: dario on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:41:14
What I find most fascinating about all this rollercoaster-switch-thriller story is that neither Invyr not mech27 ever said anything on this matter, not a single fuking word. (Well, except the initial statement that it's impossible to produce new switches.) It's thought-provoking stuff. I bet all three of these guys from the Panda story know a lot more than they were really ready to say. And we may never know what really happened.
At least Jesus does.
Well, this kinda answers my original question.
the mold was damaged, but is being fixed by massdrop
i have been told that the damage was not to the actual part where the switches are molded, so the housings will be basically unchanged
So, I guess the reason why original makers didn't fix the mold for such a long time was because Massdrop offered them a lot of money not to repair it, but to instead sell it?
Post by: otanishock on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:41:29
It's not a rumor.
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Post by: oldcat on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:52:28
It's not a rumor.
Will see if Massdrop starts a GB of HP this month. Good for the community if MD can mass produce HPs and sell under $1
So far there is no proof I guess until MD starts the GB or make a public announcement
Post by: dantambok on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:59:34
Post by: KaosJ on Sun, 02 December 2018, 18:19:01
It's not a rumor.
W H E N ?
Post by: dario on Sun, 02 December 2018, 18:21:25
Post by: Luciqueii on Sun, 02 December 2018, 18:56:17
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Post by: otanishock on Sun, 02 December 2018, 19:03:01
Hello I joined gb few days ago but I wanna withdraw/cancel from it. I think registered as Victorlungan, I would be glad if you remove me from the GB. Thanks!LOL you can edit the form yourself. A copy is sent to your email. RIP this GB rofl
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Post by: Luciqueii on Sun, 02 December 2018, 19:12:31
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LOL you can edit the form yourself. A copy is sent to your email. RIP this GB rofl
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I did not get any emails of it or any updates, weird.
Post by: Luciqueii on Sun, 02 December 2018, 19:15:48
Hello I joined gb few days ago but I wanna withdraw/cancel from it. I think registered as Victorlungan, I would be glad if you remove me from the GB. Thanks!LOL you can edit the form yourself. A copy is sent to your email. RIP this GB rofl
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Ohh I did find it... but I cannot delete my information what do I change more correctly? :)
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Post by: fatpolomanjr on Sun, 02 December 2018, 19:20:11
Ohh I did find it... but I cannot delete my information what do I change more correctly? :)
As long as you haven't actually paid anything, worst case is you just don't pay your invoice once it's sent to you. It's not like you were asked to pay ahead of time or asked for any card info.
Post by: dario on Sun, 02 December 2018, 19:25:49
RIP this GB rofl
Well, he did sold ~10k+ switches which is at least enough to cover the cost of making his mold (I hope).
Also, it turns out he was right when when he was saying from the start that they are lying to undermine his business.
But he lied too, because he claimed he's actually using the original mold.
Basically, absolutely every person involved in Pandagate lied in one way or the other.
This story truly justifes its drama status. We got money, intrigue, secrets, plottwist and turarounds, the only thing missing (for now) are hot chicks.
Post by: Hokabuki on Sun, 02 December 2018, 19:28:02
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 02 December 2018, 20:13:26
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Sun, 02 December 2018, 20:17:49
Please, as much as possible, stick with the actual topic of this group buy. If you wish to discuss any other potential future group buy, please do it in another thread (there's already another thread open for the switches brought up by Puddsy). Baiting the OP constitutes threadcrapping and is subject to moderation.Sorry photo, was about to edit my posts to remove them. Looks like you beat me to it - thank you.
Post by: fireworm on Sun, 02 December 2018, 22:35:45
Thought you said Holy Chickies. The other "panda killer".RIP this GB rofl
Well, he did sold ~10k+ switches which is at least enough to cover the cost of making his mold (I hope).
Also, it turns out he was right when when he was saying from the start that they are lying to undermine his business.
But he lied too, because he claimed he's actually using the original mold.
Basically, absolutely every person involved in Pandagate lied in one way or the other.
This story truly justifes its drama status. We got money, intrigue, secrets, plottwist and turarounds, the only thing missing (for now) are hot chicks.
Post by: Clix4Clax on Mon, 03 December 2018, 07:30:37
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 03 December 2018, 07:32:27
It's not a rumor.
Glad I’m holding out. More pandas for EVERYONE.
Post by: Signature on Mon, 03 December 2018, 10:30:51
Post by: dario on Mon, 03 December 2018, 10:33:40
Supervan, can you please tell us what's the material Holy Jesus switch top is made of? There has been a lot of speculation about this before.You will be afraid to buy substandard products making with low-quality mold.
You avoided answering my question, but OK, you don't have to do it if you don't want to.
Besides, I don't know why would I be afraid of the new-old Inyr mold. As far I'm able to understand, a bad mold doesn't necessarily mean a bad product. It just means lower yield rate ie lower profit on the seller side.
Also, original Panda wasn't sticking on the upstroke, so te me as a layman it seems his molds are actually a little bit better than yours.
Post by: SuperVan on Mon, 03 December 2018, 10:45:24
Keep the discussion about the alleged MD drop to the keyboards thread ty or we have to dish out some warnings.They have already put the unproved information here. It's not fair to delete my reply for announcing some information.
Post by: Signature on Mon, 03 December 2018, 10:47:13
The discussion is ok if you do it here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98414.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98414.0) . This is for the GB related info onlyKeep the discussion about the alleged MD drop to the keyboards thread ty or we have to dish out some warnings.They have already put the unproved information here. It's not fair to delete my reply only.
Post by: regionfree on Mon, 03 December 2018, 11:01:31
Post by: wikidpanda on Mon, 03 December 2018, 11:03:45
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 03 December 2018, 11:21:56
Post by: lendflat on Mon, 03 December 2018, 11:35:03
Nothing has been officially confirmed or denied by Massdrop, and no other group buy is yet open. Even if Massdrop is working on their own version of the Holy Panda switch, a group buy might be months away--it's completely unknown at this time, so keep that in mind. Furthermore, this group buy has a limited number of switches supposedly already produced, so it's not going to cover everyone, unlike Massdrop which would likely have a much larger number produced. Please use this thread to discuss this particular group buy and not hypothetical other future group buys. No switches are worth the amount of emotional investment that has been shown so far, and there's also quite a bit of trying to sidestep the competition with support going one way or the other. Geekhack is a free platform for any vendor/group buy, given that the process follows site rules, and competition is natural, but any anti-competitive drama posts are subject to moderation.
To be fair Puddsy caused all the drame with his unfounded Massdrop 'soon' comment....even going so far as to say a December drop.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 03 December 2018, 11:40:44
Nothing has been officially confirmed or denied by Massdrop, and no other group buy is yet open. Even if Massdrop is working on their own version of the Holy Panda switch, a group buy might be months away--it's completely unknown at this time, so keep that in mind. Furthermore, this group buy has a limited number of switches supposedly already produced, so it's not going to cover everyone, unlike Massdrop which would likely have a much larger number produced. Please use this thread to discuss this particular group buy and not hypothetical other future group buys. No switches are worth the amount of emotional investment that has been shown so far, and there's also quite a bit of trying to sidestep the competition with support going one way or the other. Geekhack is a free platform for any vendor/group buy, given that the process follows site rules, and competition is natural, but any anti-competitive drama posts are subject to moderation.
To be fair Puddsy caused all the drame with his unfounded Massdrop 'soon' comment....even going so far as to say a December drop.
How is that causing drama? All he said was that new pandas are coming from massdrop.
Post by: Signature on Mon, 03 December 2018, 11:43:14
Trying to sabotage someones GB with claims not confirmed by MD?Nothing has been officially confirmed or denied by Massdrop, and no other group buy is yet open. Even if Massdrop is working on their own version of the Holy Panda switch, a group buy might be months away--it's completely unknown at this time, so keep that in mind. Furthermore, this group buy has a limited number of switches supposedly already produced, so it's not going to cover everyone, unlike Massdrop which would likely have a much larger number produced. Please use this thread to discuss this particular group buy and not hypothetical other future group buys. No switches are worth the amount of emotional investment that has been shown so far, and there's also quite a bit of trying to sidestep the competition with support going one way or the other. Geekhack is a free platform for any vendor/group buy, given that the process follows site rules, and competition is natural, but any anti-competitive drama posts are subject to moderation.
To be fair Puddsy caused all the drame with his unfounded Massdrop 'soon' comment....even going so far as to say a December drop.
How is that causing drama? All he said was that new pandas are coming from massdrop.
Post by: SuperVan on Mon, 03 December 2018, 11:44:53
So I extended the deadline and waiting for holy pandas. If no holy panda stocking on MD this month, it will be proved what he said is a rumor, you guys still have an opportunity to get your Gsus switches.Nothing has been officially confirmed or denied by Massdrop, and no other group buy is yet open. Even if Massdrop is working on their own version of the Holy Panda switch, a group buy might be months away--it's completely unknown at this time, so keep that in mind. Furthermore, this group buy has a limited number of switches supposedly already produced, so it's not going to cover everyone, unlike Massdrop which would likely have a much larger number produced. Please use this thread to discuss this particular group buy and not hypothetical other future group buys. No switches are worth the amount of emotional investment that has been shown so far, and there's also quite a bit of trying to sidestep the competition with support going one way or the other. Geekhack is a free platform for any vendor/group buy, given that the process follows site rules, and competition is natural, but any anti-competitive drama posts are subject to moderation.
To be fair Puddsy caused all the drame with his unfounded Massdrop 'soon' comment....even going so far as to say a December drop.
Post by: mrpetrov on Mon, 03 December 2018, 11:55:34
Post by: SuperVan on Mon, 03 December 2018, 11:59:04
Might there be a third player...is it possible the factory is supplying the same housings to more than two parties?No. There's no factory only produce stems or housings for selling.
Post by: Luciqueii on Mon, 03 December 2018, 12:05:04
I think I saw you writing that you might try bring something better in future?
Sincerely,
-F.L.
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Post by: icho on Mon, 03 December 2018, 14:35:46
Post by: romevi on Mon, 03 December 2018, 17:01:39
Post by: homerowco on Mon, 03 December 2018, 17:06:51
It's the same product, to a potentially 30%+ cheaper price. It's not unconfirmed, he has samples already.
Samples means nothing - you don't have those samples, you don't sell the product - not your place to announce it.
It's about etiquette here. If you don't like the GB I'm 100% on your side, if you don't like the drama I'm absolutely on your side as well, if you don't like the price look how much Zealios cost, if you post other competing products in someones GB I think you should get a temp ban just for that. It's just not okay, no matter how much you don't like someones GB or the person running it or the product he tries to sell or anything about it and the color of his shoes, you shouldn't do that. Post "I don't like the price, it's overpriced because X", that's your opinion. It should go into the IC but whatever. Just don't post competing products. If we start with this, what's next? Someone makes a new tactile switch and you say Zealios are the golden standard and so much better here is a link to his shop. If someone makes a new split board you link someone elses split board GB? You just don't do that.
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 03 December 2018, 17:17:26
It's the same product, to a potentially 30%+ cheaper price. It's not unconfirmed, he has samples already.
Samples means nothing - you don't have those samples, you don't sell the product - not your place to announce it.
It's about etiquette here. If you don't like the GB I'm 100% on your side, if you don't like the drama I'm absolutely on your side as well, if you don't like the price look how much Zealios cost, if you post other competing products in someones GB I think you should get a temp ban just for that. It's just not okay, no matter how much you don't like someones GB or the person running it or the product he tries to sell or anything about it and the color of his shoes, you shouldn't do that. Post "I don't like the price, it's overpriced because X", that's your opinion. It should go into the IC but whatever. Just don't post competing products. If we start with this, what's next? Someone makes a new tactile switch and you say Zealios are the golden standard and so much better here is a link to his shop. If someone makes a new split board you link someone elses split board GB? You just don't do that.
I will agree with this, let's keep the topic within the topic. Advertising another buy or potential buy is grounds for moderation and should be handled as such.
It would also be bad taste to try and downplay someone's project or buy.
Post by: nuclear_wizard on Mon, 03 December 2018, 17:23:56
It's the same product, to a potentially 30%+ cheaper price. It's not unconfirmed, he has samples already.
Samples means nothing - you don't have those samples, you don't sell the product - not your place to announce it.
It's about etiquette here. If you don't like the GB I'm 100% on your side, if you don't like the drama I'm absolutely on your side as well, if you don't like the price look how much Zealios cost, if you post other competing products in someones GB I think you should get a temp ban just for that. It's just not okay, no matter how much you don't like someones GB or the person running it or the product he tries to sell or anything about it and the color of his shoes, you shouldn't do that. Post "I don't like the price, it's overpriced because X", that's your opinion. It should go into the IC but whatever. Just don't post competing products. If we start with this, what's next? Someone makes a new tactile switch and you say Zealios are the golden standard and so much better here is a link to his shop. If someone makes a new split board you link someone elses split board GB? You just don't do that.
There's more nuance to it than that though. If as Emil claims, Novelkeys will have the same product, then I'd say absolutely as someone interested in this GB that's something I'd want to know and it's pertinent information.
However, posting a discord screenshot that could be about anything (literally all it said was factory says I can make them for under $0.70/switch, but I need to figure out shipping costs) and claiming Mike said this and that, I would say is just fanning the flames and definitely doesn't contribute to the conversation about this GB. Not only that, but if Mike wanted to bring it up here (or not) then I'd say its his place to do so and his alone until it's actually being offered on NK.
I don't understand why some people are so hellbent on attempting to derail this GB. SuperVan has been more transparent about his process than a lot of GBs that get praise for their transparency just because people have been calling him out, and it seems that he's delivered every time. Some comments may be obtuse, but English isn't his first language. I'd say the scamming claims have been quelled by reviewers' comments, and while it isn't a literal Panda replacement due to the upstroke, this is the only thing currently being offered that seems to have a very similar force curve in GB right now.
Post by: dPaK on Mon, 03 December 2018, 18:05:34
These actions aren't typical for a keyboard-enthusiast community like geekhack. It is bad taste to see this kind of drama. Everyone can make his opinion, but when the line is crossed to become an attack it becomes something different.
It doesn't matter who is lying, or if all the truth have been spoken, this is what happens every single day around everywhere, and more in the business world and the user isn't interested about that, only the final product that is he can pick and touch. The competition is always good for the user, and people aren't jerks, everyone chooses where to spend his time and money.
It seems that Gsus is enough similar to Invyr, to make Nathan and others don't complain about the result, despite not perfect. So is good for a newbie like me too.
Yes, I think 1.5$ for a switch is very expensive, considering you only want the housing. Also, 1$ is too expensive, but a little fairer. Is the price he chose, and you can be ok with that or not, but not throwing him stones to his face if you dislike this.
I will experiment Gsus for my own, and if MD sells Holy Panda v2 I will do too, making my own conclusions, and not what someone told me to do.
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 03 December 2018, 18:12:55
It's the same product, to a potentially 30%+ cheaper price. It's not unconfirmed, he has samples already.
Samples means nothing - you don't have those samples, you don't sell the product - not your place to announce it.
It's about etiquette here. If you don't like the GB I'm 100% on your side, if you don't like the drama I'm absolutely on your side as well, if you don't like the price look how much Zealios cost, if you post other competing products in someones GB I think you should get a temp ban just for that. It's just not okay, no matter how much you don't like someones GB or the person running it or the product he tries to sell or anything about it and the color of his shoes, you shouldn't do that. Post "I don't like the price, it's overpriced because X", that's your opinion. It should go into the IC but whatever. Just don't post competing products. If we start with this, what's next? Someone makes a new tactile switch and you say Zealios are the golden standard and so much better here is a link to his shop. If someone makes a new split board you link someone elses split board GB? You just don't do that.
Not related to the part about posting products, but Zealios are primarily going to be used as-is while for the most part Pandas and these GSUS are primarily going to be used for franken-switches, so I'd see why most people buying these for that purpose would be more apprehensive of $1 for one part of a frankenswitch vs $1 for a "use it as it is" switch.
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 03 December 2018, 18:34:47
Post by: rondg on Mon, 03 December 2018, 19:15:55
So I extended the deadline and waiting for holy pandas. If no holy panda stocking on MD this month, it will be proved what he said is a rumor, you guys still have an opportunity to get your Gsus switches.Nothing has been officially confirmed or denied by Massdrop, and no other group buy is yet open. Even if Massdrop is working on their own version of the Holy Panda switch, a group buy might be months away--it's completely unknown at this time, so keep that in mind. Furthermore, this group buy has a limited number of switches supposedly already produced, so it's not going to cover everyone, unlike Massdrop which would likely have a much larger number produced. Please use this thread to discuss this particular group buy and not hypothetical other future group buys. No switches are worth the amount of emotional investment that has been shown so far, and there's also quite a bit of trying to sidestep the competition with support going one way or the other. Geekhack is a free platform for any vendor/group buy, given that the process follows site rules, and competition is natural, but any anti-competitive drama posts are subject to moderation.
To be fair Puddsy caused all the drame with his unfounded Massdrop 'soon' comment....even going so far as to say a December drop.
Will the shipping still start on December 27th?
Post by: ItsAllen on Wed, 05 December 2018, 14:56:42
Post by: txclack on Wed, 05 December 2018, 15:17:34
Post by: PoochZag on Wed, 05 December 2018, 15:23:49
How can I cancel my form?
You can edit the form you should have received a link when you first filled it out
Post by: zekkin on Wed, 05 December 2018, 15:49:16
I see the MD link as directly related to this GB because people want to buy these to make Holy Pandas. This will probably get deleted but I felt it important to say something.
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 05 December 2018, 15:53:34
I'm not sure if deleting the posts regarding the MD Holy Panda page is a great idea. It is directly related to why this GB came about and I really think it's kinda shady to just delete the posts that merely serve to inform people that their money may be better spent elsewhere (the 'nice' posts are definitely just spam).
I see the MD link as directly related to this GB because people want to buy these to make Holy Pandas. This will probably get deleted but I felt it important to say something.
It's very much the right thing to do, as it's disrespectful and anti-competitive to post competing product ads into ongoing group buys. Each group buy thread is for discussion of that particular group buy and could include mentions of any additional related projects by the group buy runner. It's every individual's own job to do their own research on what they want to spend their money.
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Wed, 05 December 2018, 16:27:16
I want to show, SuperVan, that I have serious interest in your Gsus switch at private Chinese GB prices. If you ever change your mind about the price, please let us know :)
Post by: Cktenders on Wed, 05 December 2018, 16:29:17
Post by: Little4Real on Wed, 05 December 2018, 16:38:31
Post by: KaosJ on Wed, 05 December 2018, 16:40:48
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 05 December 2018, 16:58:06
This may still be the most cost effective (lol) way for the group of people who are already sitting on Halo stems that need [panda] housings, otherwise they are just collecting dust for a lot of folks. Not sure there will be a lot of people out there looking for Halo switches in the near future. Not sure what makes more sense financially, selling Halos a for loss vs buying these, but just offering another view point. Sunk cost fallacy I guess.
Not to derail the post further as regardless of how I feel toward the GB, Photo has a good point and I intent to try and respect the rules as they are (rightfully) enforced... however, if you're not time constricted and even taking into consideration you may be sitting on halos already, the alternative to this still provides you the housings for a significant amount cheaper does it not? Basically you're paying more for less regardless of trustworthiness/integrity of the 2 sellers and/or the fact you're comparing a clone to the (alleged) real deal - you're getting a bunch of useless, scratchy, linear panda stems instead of usable halo stems or entire halo switches depending on how you look at it, both of which can be sold for a reasonable amount of money on the classifieds section or mechmarket.
PS: I'd echo the sentiment that I'd take some of these at CN GB prices but realistically I don't know if I actually would being a fan of mostly linears. Maybe try 50 cents.
Post by: txclack on Wed, 05 December 2018, 17:17:24
Post by: MeloDet on Wed, 05 December 2018, 17:32:54
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 05 December 2018, 17:52:27
You could at least open the thread again, now that there's no reason to keep it closed other than potential drama but if that's a problem you might as well shut down the whole forum.I'm not sure if deleting the posts regarding the MD Holy Panda page is a great idea. It is directly related to why this GB came about and I really think it's kinda shady to just delete the posts that merely serve to inform people that their money may be better spent elsewhere (the 'nice' posts are definitely just spam).
I see the MD link as directly related to this GB because people want to buy these to make Holy Pandas. This will probably get deleted but I felt it important to say something.
It's very much the right thing to do, as it's disrespectful and anti-competitive to post competing product ads into ongoing group buys. Each group buy thread is for discussion of that particular group buy and could include mentions of any additional related projects by the group buy runner. It's every individual's own job to do their own research on what they want to spend their money.
Post by: Albatross on Wed, 05 December 2018, 18:05:01
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 05 December 2018, 18:24:48
Just want to jump in and say that I am sitting on Halo switches/stems and still have interest in this GB, especially if the group buy price were to match the one in China.
Remember, these Gsus are just clones - they don't have the same exact housing of the OG Panda. Very similar (hence "clone"), but the difference still exists in the upstroke, although might be unnoticeable in daily use.
Post by: wholypantalones on Wed, 05 December 2018, 18:31:13
I'll also withdraw my order if the price doesn't come down a fair bit.
I like how the price at $1 a switch suddenly becomes a problem once another option is presented.
Post by: nuclear_wizard on Wed, 05 December 2018, 18:43:19
You might as well have said you liked how $4/switch r/mm prices were only a problem until this GB happened too.I'll also withdraw my order if the price doesn't come down a fair bit.
I like how the price at $1 a switch suddenly becomes a problem once another option is presented.
People will go with what is cheaper at a comparable performance, especially in the case where the "real" deal is cheaper.
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Post by: Hedgey on Wed, 05 December 2018, 19:13:56
You might as well have said you liked how $4/switch r/mm prices were only a problem until this GB happened too.I'll also withdraw my order if the price doesn't come down a fair bit.
I like how the price at $1 a switch suddenly becomes a problem once another option is presented.
People will go with what is cheaper at a comparable performance, especially in the case where the "real" deal is cheaper.
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Right?!? People were still unhappy at $1 a switch and you still needed halos as well for what are clones..
Post by: Albatross on Wed, 05 December 2018, 19:15:49
I'll also withdraw my order if the price doesn't come down a fair bit.
I like how the price at $1 a switch suddenly becomes a problem once another option is presented.
There is no problem, I simply have no reason to buy into this GB now that there is an alternative GB available that is a better value. I only want the Panda housings really, but even then the other GB still manages to be cheaper with a more valuable stem included.
Post by: wholypantalones on Wed, 05 December 2018, 19:39:24
You might as well have said you liked how $4/switch r/mm prices were only a problem until this GB happened too.I'll also withdraw my order if the price doesn't come down a fair bit.
I like how the price at $1 a switch suddenly becomes a problem once another option is presented.
People will go with what is cheaper at a comparable performance, especially in the case where the "real" deal is cheaper.
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I liked how $4/switch r/mm prices were only a problem until this GB happened too, but if you're desperate enough to pay those prices for scratchy housings you've got other issues you should probably take care of.
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Wed, 05 December 2018, 19:45:46
I like how the price at $1 a switch suddenly becomes a problem once another option is presented.
Well, obviously. At $1/switch why wouldn't it be a problem?
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Wed, 05 December 2018, 20:18:18
Post by: clik_clak on Wed, 05 December 2018, 20:24:12
Given Massdrop's price of $1/switch, wouldn't the price of these need to be like $0.45/ea to make this attractive enough to buy? You still need to get Halo switches from Massdrop, which I believe are $0.50/ea.
Some of us have a stockpile of Halo switches sitting around already.
Post by: reidd on Wed, 05 December 2018, 21:05:16
Given Massdrop's price of $1/switch, wouldn't the price of these need to be like $0.45/ea to make this attractive enough to buy? You still need to get Halo switches from Massdrop, which I believe are $0.50/ea.
Some of us have a stockpile of Halo switches sitting around already.
This ^^^^
Post by: phatty on Wed, 05 December 2018, 21:18:34
Post by: poodude on Wed, 05 December 2018, 21:40:39
Post by: Justin_aka_OsP_SSJ4 on Wed, 05 December 2018, 21:47:07
(*playing the optimist)
Post by: Gondolindrim on Wed, 05 December 2018, 22:03:01
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 05 December 2018, 22:40:36
Just want to jump in and say that I am sitting on Halo switches/stems and still have interest in this GB, especially if the group buy price were to match the one in China.
Remember, these Gsus are just clones - they don't have the same exact housing of the OG Panda. Very similar (hence "clone"), but the difference still exists in the upstroke, although might be unnoticeable in daily use.
Are these just using the Bsun housing?
Post by: P1kas on Wed, 05 December 2018, 23:33:02
Are these just using the Bsun housing?
I don't think the Bsun housings felt the same even during the downstroke, so I'm leaning towards no
Post by: Jkshowman on Thu, 06 December 2018, 00:11:35
Post by: nulltorious on Thu, 06 December 2018, 07:19:50
Post by: dario on Thu, 06 December 2018, 08:24:51
I like how the price at $1 a switch suddenly becomes a problem once another option is presented.
Yeah, except there is no other option. There has been long Supervan's explanation on why supposed MD's Panda won't happen the way people expect it happen, but it has been deleted by the moderators
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 06 December 2018, 10:13:11
I wish the prices would come down due to new competition in the Holy Panda market. But I will still purchase 110x switches. I need some housings for my Halo stems.
Not really sure I follow the logic here, wouldn't getting a full switch at 90 cents off of Massdrop make more sense even if you only need the housing? You're basically throwing away 11 dollars and you're getting useless linear stems no one wants instead of a full switch you know is identical to the original one meaning you can then just sell your stock Halos (or even just the stems if you don't have the full switches) on MM.
Just seems like a complete waste of money even if you already have the other half, unless you really want to get them fast seeing as MD will probably take a while to get them shipped out and these clones are ready to go.
Post by: Aqiz on Thu, 06 December 2018, 10:14:39
Post by: Gacct on Thu, 06 December 2018, 11:19:31
Given Massdrop's price of $1/switch, wouldn't the price of these need to be like $0.45/ea to make this attractive enough to buy? You still need to get Halo switches from Massdrop, which I believe are $0.50/ea.
Some of us have a stockpile of Halo switches sitting around already.
Was massdrop's price released? Where can I find this info? Thanks
Post by: mopaska on Thu, 06 December 2018, 11:34:18
Sorry but pulled out as well :( MD prices are just better
Until some actual explanation is given, I'm not giving my money to either party.
Did Mech27 and Supervan both RND their own molds, independently, and finish around the same time? Did they collaborate and have a falling out? Did one of them invest all the money and the other poach?
And yeah, neither party owes me or the community anything in the way of an explanation. It's just my personal objection that I want to know who the scumbag is before I spend.
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Thu, 06 December 2018, 11:41:41
Given Massdrop's price of $1/switch, wouldn't the price of these need to be like $0.45/ea to make this attractive enough to buy? You still need to get Halo switches from Massdrop, which I believe are $0.50/ea.
Some of us have a stockpile of Halo switches sitting around already.
Was massdrop's price released? Where can I find this info? Thanks
On Massdrop lol.
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 06 December 2018, 11:55:47
Until some actual explanation is given, I'm not giving my money to either party.
Did Mech27 and Supervan both RND their own molds, independently, and finish around the same time? Did they collaborate and have a falling out? Did one of them invest all the money and the other poach?
And yeah, neither party owes me or the community anything in the way of an explanation. It's just my personal objection that I want to know who the scumbag is before I spend.
SuperVan had his own replica moulds funded and made with Bsun. 27 collaborated with Massdrop (for months, since like March), who obviously have the funds, the manpower and the communicative skills/know how to work with the factory directly and have the old, unusable Panda moulds fixed/recouped - something 27 and Zisb/Invyr did not which is why a future run was deemed infeasible until just now (or until 27 was approached by MD back when the project started).
Post by: mopaska on Thu, 06 December 2018, 12:50:08
Until some actual explanation is given, I'm not giving my money to either party.
Did Mech27 and Supervan both RND their own molds, independently, and finish around the same time? Did they collaborate and have a falling out? Did one of them invest all the money and the other poach?
And yeah, neither party owes me or the community anything in the way of an explanation. It's just my personal objection that I want to know who the scumbag is before I spend.
SuperVan had his own replica moulds funded and made with Bsun. 27 collaborated with Massdrop (for months, since like March), who obviously have the funds, the manpower and the communicative skills/know how to work with the factory directly and have the old, unusable Panda moulds fixed/recouped - something 27 and Zisb/Invyr did not which is why a future run was deemed infeasible until just now (or until 27 was approached by MD back when the project started).
I see.
So what's the issue with Supervan's price gouging? It is Supervan that took the gamble, investing in the project. If the payout doesn't come then it's Supervan who is out the money. Why does anyone else care?
Post by: Laughmaster on Thu, 06 December 2018, 13:08:59
I've noticed people get really upset about vendors making a high ROI within the mech keys community. There's an expectation that every vendor should be in it for the community and not to make money, because a lot of GB runners minimize their ROI in order to meet MOQs.Until some actual explanation is given, I'm not giving my money to either party.
Did Mech27 and Supervan both RND their own molds, independently, and finish around the same time? Did they collaborate and have a falling out? Did one of them invest all the money and the other poach?
And yeah, neither party owes me or the community anything in the way of an explanation. It's just my personal objection that I want to know who the scumbag is before I spend.
SuperVan had his own replica moulds funded and made with Bsun. 27 collaborated with Massdrop (for months, since like March), who obviously have the funds, the manpower and the communicative skills/know how to work with the factory directly and have the old, unusable Panda moulds fixed/recouped - something 27 and Zisb/Invyr did not which is why a future run was deemed infeasible until just now (or until 27 was approached by MD back when the project started).
I see.
So what's the issue with Supervan's price gouging? It is Supervan that took the gamble, investing in the project. If the payout doesn't come then it's Supervan who is out the money. Why does anyone else care?
For example, there are a ton of people who refuse to buy Zeal's switches because regular Gaterons are something like half the cost of what he charges. Despite him claiming that he had to get custom molds made and uses different materials than regular Gaterons, he gets regularly accused of price gouging.
In this particular example, this same GB runner has (supposedly?) previously sold this exact switch at $0.60 each. Meaning that his minimum ROI for this GB is +67%, assuming that the previous GB was run at +0% ROI. People were previously okay with this because there were no alternatives and a lot of people bought Halo switches last time Massdrop made a batch of them. Now that there is an alternative, especially a significantly cheaper alternative, people are no longer okay with the inflated price. So the people who already have Halo switches are saying they'll stick with this GB if Supervan undercuts MD's prices.
(Edited because I accidentally called Halos "Holys")
Post by: Little4Real on Fri, 07 December 2018, 10:50:40
Post by: regionfree on Fri, 07 December 2018, 11:11:53
Post by: SuperVan on Fri, 07 December 2018, 11:20:30
I thought SuperVan would've been responded to thisWhy not? I was very busy in the past days. I will evaluate the price later. Look foward to it.
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Post by: Mcnos on Fri, 07 December 2018, 11:40:53
I thought SuperVan would've been responded to thisWhy not? I was very busy in the past days. I will evaluate the price later. Look foward to it.
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Oh nice, looking forward to seeing how this turns out as I've got about 180 halos from multiple experiments lol.
Post by: Mekuno on Fri, 07 December 2018, 12:23:13
I personally will be buying some, but the price needs to go down. Looking forward to it.
Post by: laughatpain on Fri, 07 December 2018, 13:51:58
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 07 December 2018, 19:30:03
I thought SuperVan would've been responded to thisWhy not? I was very busy in the past days. I will evaluate the price later. Look foward to it.
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Would you consider lowering price to Chinese private GB price?
Lots of unanswered questions regarding MD’s HP GB, at least you have a proven product.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 07 December 2018, 19:30:58
I thought SuperVan would've been responded to thisWhy not? I was very busy in the past days. I will evaluate the price later. Look foward to it.
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Oh nice, looking forward to seeing how this turns out as I've got about 180 halos from multiple experiments lol.
I still have 140 halos trapped in Holy skies
Post by: JubJubCity on Fri, 07 December 2018, 20:10:10
As do i lolI thought SuperVan would've been responded to thisWhy not? I was very busy in the past days. I will evaluate the price later. Look foward to it.
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Oh nice, looking forward to seeing how this turns out as I've got about 180 halos from multiple experiments lol.
I still have 140 halos trapped in Holy skies
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 07 December 2018, 22:52:04
Lots of unanswered questions regarding MD’s HP GB, at least you have a proven product.
Curious... what unanswered questions?
Post by: cdhoffmann on Fri, 07 December 2018, 23:09:25
Post by: donkey on Sat, 08 December 2018, 01:35:11
Given that Gsus potential buyers are now reduced to switch modders and those who bought Halo switches, I think these are more reasonable prices:
If MD HP review turns up Gsus-like flaws, $0.70~$0.80.
If not, $0.65~$0.75.
As for me, I have 140 Halo stems in need of better housings. I also want to build Clear-minded Panda and Zanda V2.
Price I'd be interested in are in the ranges above.
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 08 December 2018, 03:08:48
If the price was dropped to .60 cents a switch, i would be in!
Same, i joined MD already but have many stems around, at Chinese GB price i would join. Or 0.7 with pp fees
Post by: nasp on Sat, 08 December 2018, 08:52:36
Post by: lendflat on Sat, 08 December 2018, 08:56:06
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 08 December 2018, 10:11:27
What a bunch of circling vultures we have here. I hope you dont drop your price. Your hard work needs to be rewarded.
:eek:
Post by: fireworm on Sat, 08 December 2018, 10:11:35
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 08 December 2018, 11:19:09
Lots of unanswered questions regarding MD’s HP GB, at least you have a proven product.
Curious... what unanswered questions?
Lots of discussions on Reddit. I will not repeat here. One question I have is whether the actual product looks like what’s advertised. There were some discussion that top was transparent, but the MD page shows og panda? And what is the status of the mold? MD said it’s being repaired, so what mold Md is using to make the samples? Are there multiple molds? Are the molds from original factory bsun or md made new molds with Kaihua?
I just feel MD’s GB is very much rushed, maybe they haven’t figured out the details but just open early to sabotage Supervan.
After all MD has worked on this since March (7-8 months) and haven’t bulk produced, and Supervan worked on it for 1.5 months and now he is ready to ship.
Anyway, i echo other users and I am still rooting for Supervan reducing pricing to Chinese GB price.
Post by: chuckdee on Sat, 08 December 2018, 11:21:32
Lots of unanswered questions regarding MD’s HP GB, at least you have a proven product.
Curious... what unanswered questions?
Lots of discussions on Reddit. I will not repeat here. One question I have is whether the actual product looks like what’s advertised. There were some discussion that top was transparent, but the MD page shows og panda? And what is the status of the mold? MD said it’s being repaired, so what mold Md is using to make the samples? Are there multiple molds? Are the molds from original factory bsun or md made new molds with Kaihua?
I just feel MD’s GB is very much rushed, maybe they haven’t figured out the details but just open early to sabotage Supervan.
After all MD has worked on this since March (7-8 months) and haven’t bulk produced, and Supervan worked on it for 1.5 months and now he is ready to ship.
Anyway, i echo other users and I am still rooting for Supervan reducing pricing to Chinese GB price.
The ones that you stated above are actually asked and answered in the drop.
Post by: SuperVan on Sat, 08 December 2018, 11:24:04
Thanks for your reply. I'm not able to talk about other GB. I'm still evaluating the price now. Maybe I will announce it tomorrow.Lots of unanswered questions regarding MD’s HP GB, at least you have a proven product.
Curious... what unanswered questions?
Lots of discussions on Reddit. I will not repeat here. One question I have is whether the actual product looks like what’s advertised. There were some discussion that top was transparent, but the MD page shows og panda? And what is the status of the mold? MD said it’s being repaired, so what mold Md is using to make the samples? Are there multiple molds? Are the molds from original factory bsun or md made new molds with Kaihua?
I just feel MD’s GB is very much rushed, maybe they haven’t figured out the details but just open early to sabotage Supervan.
After all MD has worked on this since March (7-8 months) and haven’t bulk produced, and Supervan worked on it for 1.5 months and now he is ready to ship.
Anyway, i echo other users and I am still rooting for Supervan reducing pricing to Chinese GB price.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 08 December 2018, 11:28:41
Lots of unanswered questions regarding MD’s HP GB, at least you have a proven product.
Curious... what unanswered questions?
Lots of discussions on Reddit. I will not repeat here. One question I have is whether the actual product looks like what’s advertised. There were some discussion that top was transparent, but the MD page shows og panda? And what is the status of the mold? MD said it’s being repaired, so what mold Md is using to make the samples? Are there multiple molds? Are the molds from original factory bsun or md made new molds with Kaihua?
I just feel MD’s GB is very much rushed, maybe they haven’t figured out the details but just open early to sabotage Supervan.
After all MD has worked on this since March (7-8 months) and haven’t bulk produced, and Supervan worked on it for 1.5 months and now he is ready to ship.
Anyway, i echo other users and I am still rooting for Supervan reducing pricing to Chinese GB price.
The ones that you stated above are actually asked and answered in the drop.
Care to help clarify? Can’t find the info actually
Post by: Hedgey on Sat, 08 December 2018, 13:07:49
I just feel MD’s GB is very much rushed, maybe they haven’t figured out the details but just open early to sabotage Supervan.
You believe, that MD (A semi-large company with lots of employees, products, and a full scale logistics department) was so concerned about a Chinese guy living in Russia, that they rushed a project they've been working on to "Sabotage" said person???
Post by: KingzandBean on Sat, 08 December 2018, 14:17:44
I mean, definitely not sabatoge but they might have changed when they were releasing the product
I just feel MD’s GB is very much rushed, maybe they haven’t figured out the details but just open early to sabotage Supervan.
You believe, that MD (A semi-large company with lots of employees, products, and a full scale logistics department) was so concerned about a Chinese guy living in Russia, that they rushed a project they've been working on to "Sabotage" said person???
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Post by: clik_clak on Sat, 08 December 2018, 14:18:24
I just feel MD’s GB is very much rushed, maybe they haven’t figured out the details but just open early to sabotage Supervan.
You believe, that MD (A semi-large company with lots of employees, products, and a full scale logistics department) was so concerned about a Chinese guy living in Russia, that they rushed a project they've been working on to "Sabotage" said person???
If you look at the people that have been working with MD on this project, yes...100%.
Additionally, it's very strange that they haven't answered how they are getting review samples out this morning when the molds have been damaged.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 08 December 2018, 14:22:08
I just feel MD’s GB is very much rushed, maybe they haven’t figured out the details but just open early to sabotage Supervan.
You believe, that MD (A semi-large company with lots of employees, products, and a full scale logistics department) was so concerned about a Chinese guy living in Russia, that they rushed a project they've been working on to "Sabotage" said person???
Oh well, how about the Halo switches fiasco that happened before, and Whitefox?
FYI, I joined MD's Holy Panda drop already, and I am voicing my concerns.
Post by: booleanjulien on Sat, 08 December 2018, 20:35:06
Additionally, it's very strange that they haven't answered how they are getting review samples out this morning when the molds have been damaged.
Already joined the MD drop, but this is what concerns me the most.
Post by: TieuNgu on Sat, 08 December 2018, 21:56:28
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 08 December 2018, 23:15:07
I'm not joining MD drop. If it is successful, they will definitely bring it back so it's safer to join R2. There are plenty of other good switches out there for now.
There are currently no plans for an R2 of the MDHP, no matter the outcome of it.
Post by: kokugatsu on Sat, 08 December 2018, 23:28:49
What a bunch of circling vultures we have here. I hope you dont drop your price. Your hard work needs to be rewarded.
He'll still make a profit even if the price drops, no?
Post by: clik_clak on Sat, 08 December 2018, 23:39:18
I'm not joining MD drop. If it is successful, they will definitely bring it back so it's safer to join R2. There are plenty of other good switches out there for now.
There are currently no plans for an R2 of the MDHP, no matter the outcome of it.
You seem to know more about this drop than most people...Why don't you answer us why they refuse to answer how they have review samples for a switch being created from damaged molds that apparently haven't been fixed yet.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 09 December 2018, 00:50:45
I'm not joining MD drop. If it is successful, they will definitely bring it back so it's safer to join R2. There are plenty of other good switches out there for now.
There are currently no plans for an R2 of the MDHP, no matter the outcome of it.
You seem to know more about this drop than most people...Why don't you answer us why they refuse to answer how they have review samples for a switch being created from damaged molds that apparently haven't been fixed yet.
More than one mold.
Post by: regionfree on Sun, 09 December 2018, 01:22:37
You seem to know more about this drop than most people...Why don't you answer us why they refuse to answer how they have review samples for a switch being created from damaged molds that apparently haven't been fixed yet.More than one mold.
Then won't that make further rounds even more probable? Considering how much effort and work (they say they started working on this since March) went into restoring/fixing MULTIPLE molds? With Massdrop being a business who's primary goal is to make money from sustainable products?
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 09 December 2018, 01:54:42
You seem to know more about this drop than most people...Why don't you answer us why they refuse to answer how they have review samples for a switch being created from damaged molds that apparently haven't been fixed yet.More than one mold.
Then won't that make further rounds even more probable? Considering how much effort and work (they say they started working on this since March) went into restoring/fixing MULTIPLE molds? With Massdrop being a business who's primary goal is to make money from sustainable products?
They'll make enough money from this drop to offset that cost several times over. It's just a logistical nightmare. They've already sold WELL over 100k switches by my math.
This is getting off topic, if you have more questions PM me here (not reddit or discord please). I don't have direct communication with Massdrop, so take everything I say from here on with a grain of salt.
Please try to keep this thread to GSUS GB discussion only.
Post by: cdhoffmann on Sun, 09 December 2018, 09:21:39
I'm not joining MD drop. If it is successful, they will definitely bring it back so it's safer to join R2. There are plenty of other good switches out there for now.
There are currently no plans for an R2 of the MDHP, no matter the outcome of it.
You seem to know more about this drop than most people...Why don't you answer us why they refuse to answer how they have review samples for a switch being created from damaged molds that apparently haven't been fixed yet.
More than one mold.
Lol. This seems like BS. If they had more than one mold and only 1 was damaged, 27 would’ve been making pandas already without MD. What would the point be of repairing the damaged one if they had working ones? To speed up manufacturing? Sure, but that doesn’t explain what 27 originally stated which caused the panda prices to go up so much.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 09 December 2018, 15:31:17
I'm not joining MD drop. If it is successful, they will definitely bring it back so it's safer to join R2. There are plenty of other good switches out there for now.
There are currently no plans for an R2 of the MDHP, no matter the outcome of it.
You seem to know more about this drop than most people...Why don't you answer us why they refuse to answer how they have review samples for a switch being created from damaged molds that apparently haven't been fixed yet.
More than one mold.
Lol. This seems like BS. If they had more than one mold and only 1 was damaged, 27 would’ve been making pandas already without MD. What would the point be of repairing the damaged one if they had working ones? To speed up manufacturing? Sure, but that doesn’t explain what 27 originally stated which caused the panda prices to go up so much.
My primary question has been, Massdrop has been working with mech27 since March, it's a very long period of time. Nothing happened until Supervan put together a GB. And even now it seems Massdrop's HP will be shipped in 6 months. But within 1.5 months' of time, supervan was able to make prototypes, send to reviewers (probably took 2-3 weeks), and now ready to ship. Is it such a difficult GB to put together for Massdrop or mech27? Afterall mech27 should have most information about the og panda, right? Is the mold destroyed or not? Who has ownership of the mold? What is the current status of the mold? How were the samples made?
What is really happening here is baffling me. I have long been a big supporter of Massdrop, having spent tens of thousands of dollars on the platform, not to mention that I have been organically promoting Massdrop and its products in my social media accounts. But for this Holy Panda thing, more transparency is needed. I also think on that front, supervan did a good job in paying for the goods upfront, getting samples to reviewers before starting a GB.
I am hoping to see a substantial reduction in pricing for the GSUS. After all, more competition is always good for the community.
Post by: SuperVan on Sun, 09 December 2018, 15:39:48
Post by: booleanjulien on Sun, 09 December 2018, 16:25:24
Hi, guys. I've already reduced the price to $0.6/pcs. The deadline has been changed from 2018/12/31 to 2018/12/19. I will start to ship them from 2018/12/20. Considering all of these switches are spot goods, I think the price will be reasonable. Hope you can get your Holy Gsus switches as soon as possible.
Reason for moving up the deadline?
Post by: cdhoffmann on Sun, 09 December 2018, 16:27:39
Hi, guys. I've already reduced the price to $0.6/pcs. The deadline has been changed from 2018/12/31 to 2018/12/19. I will start to ship them from 2018/12/20. Considering all of these switches are spot goods, I think the price will be reasonable. Hope you can get your Holy Gsus switches as soon as possible.
Awesome. I’m in! When will invoices go out?
Post by: JubJubCity on Sun, 09 December 2018, 16:53:00
Hi, guys. I've already reduced the price to $0.6/pcs. The deadline has been changed from 2018/12/31 to 2018/12/19. I will start to ship them from 2018/12/20. Considering all of these switches are spot goods, I think the price will be reasonable. Hope you can get your Holy Gsus switches as soon as possible.Great can't wait to pay and receive them.
Post by: Juiceion on Sun, 09 December 2018, 16:57:48
Hi, guys. I've already reduced the price to $0.6/pcs. The deadline has been changed from 2018/12/31 to 2018/12/19. I will start to ship them from 2018/12/20. Considering all of these switches are spot goods, I think the price will be reasonable. Hope you can get your Holy Gsus switches as soon as possible.
Reason for moving up the deadline?
I would assume since they will probably sell really fast at the new price.
Post by: Darknight00z on Sun, 09 December 2018, 16:59:15
Post by: clik_clak on Sun, 09 December 2018, 17:04:25
Invoice #:0008
Post by: Mcnos on Sun, 09 December 2018, 17:05:08
having spent tens of thousands of dollars on the platform
Weird flex, but okay
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 09 December 2018, 17:05:33
I even retooled 150 of them.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 09 December 2018, 17:06:04
having spent tens of thousands of dollars on the platform
Weird flex, but okay
Actually probably even more than that. That’s ok.
Post by: Stallon on Sun, 09 December 2018, 17:30:17
Hi, guys. I've already reduced the price to $0.6/pcs. The deadline has been changed from 2018/12/31 to 2018/12/19. I will start to ship them from 2018/12/20. Considering all of these switches are spot goods, I think the price will be reasonable. Hope you can get your Holy Gsus switches as soon as possible.
I entered more than a week ago but got no invoice, now i edited the form and added more switches.
Checked and I have no invoice, it's just me?
Post by: SuperVan on Sun, 09 December 2018, 17:36:26
Thanks for your support. I will send your invoice this week. Don't worry.Hi, guys. I've already reduced the price to $0.6/pcs. The deadline has been changed from 2018/12/31 to 2018/12/19. I will start to ship them from 2018/12/20. Considering all of these switches are spot goods, I think the price will be reasonable. Hope you can get your Holy Gsus switches as soon as possible.
I entered more than a week ago but got no invoice, now i edited the form and added more switches.
Checked and I have no invoice, it's just me?
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Post by: quinnx on Sun, 09 December 2018, 17:37:14
Post by: OtherAndrew on Sun, 09 December 2018, 17:40:18
Now what to do with my 300 Outemu skies :(
I even retooled 150 of them.
weird flex but okay
Post by: Stallon on Sun, 09 December 2018, 17:40:44
Thanks for your support. I will send your invoice this week. Don't worry.Hi, guys. I've already reduced the price to $0.6/pcs. The deadline has been changed from 2018/12/31 to 2018/12/19. I will start to ship them from 2018/12/20. Considering all of these switches are spot goods, I think the price will be reasonable. Hope you can get your Holy Gsus switches as soon as possible.
I entered more than a week ago but got no invoice, now i edited the form and added more switches.
Checked and I have no invoice, it's just me?
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Okay thanks :thumb:
Post by: poodude on Sun, 09 December 2018, 18:21:12
Post by: clik_clak on Sun, 09 December 2018, 18:23:43
How are these being shipped? Would it be possible to use epacket from China? I ask because the shipping + PayPal fee adds $18 to a 90 switch order. So roughly $20 less than just buying the Massdrop switches.
Are you also counting MD's $10 shipping cost? Not really fair to count it on one GB and not another.
Post by: Hongook on Sun, 09 December 2018, 18:26:10
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Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 09 December 2018, 18:26:22
Post by: Oni74 on Sun, 09 December 2018, 18:46:12
Hi, guys. I've already reduced the price to $0.6/pcs. The deadline has been changed from 2018/12/31 to 2018/12/19. I will start to ship them from 2018/12/20. Considering all of these switches are spot goods, I think the price will be reasonable. Hope you can get your Holy Gsus switches as soon as possible.Thanks for lowering the price! I was hesitant to stay in the gb, but with the lowered price, I'm going to stay in. Looking forward to getting the invoice and sending you the payment.
Thanks for staying true to your goals and creating the win-win for the community despite all the drama.
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Post by: Solotov on Sun, 09 December 2018, 19:11:34
Post by: airlangga07 on Sun, 09 December 2018, 20:37:11
Post by: Idragonist on Sun, 09 December 2018, 20:43:22
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Post by: tex_live_utility on Sun, 09 December 2018, 21:20:16
I mean, definitely not sabatoge but they might have changed when they were releasing the product
I just feel MD’s GB is very much rushed, maybe they haven’t figured out the details but just open early to sabotage Supervan.
You believe, that MD (A semi-large company with lots of employees, products, and a full scale logistics department) was so concerned about a Chinese guy living in Russia, that they rushed a project they've been working on to "Sabotage" said person???
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They did it before with Troubled Minds and NGE.
Post by: tex_live_utility on Sun, 09 December 2018, 21:24:41
Nice to see the price drop to the promotional, non-profit amount of the private CN buy. Still some nice people out there working pro bono for no benefit other than that of fostering the community spirit.
Even 75c per switch would have been fine. It's the fact that he had the balls to try 1.50 in the first place that made people upset.
Post by: Mekuno on Sun, 09 December 2018, 22:58:22
Post by: vegs on Mon, 10 December 2018, 02:38:51
Post by: Lansky on Mon, 10 December 2018, 03:31:50
Post by: shengpizi on Mon, 10 December 2018, 03:53:48
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 10 December 2018, 04:53:17
Received! (Attachment Link)
From the private chinese GB? nice!
Post by: vikipedeer on Mon, 10 December 2018, 05:17:02
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 10 December 2018, 11:15:41
For those who want a clear stem I guess
Post by: spooknik on Mon, 10 December 2018, 11:39:21
Post by: Ashardalon on Mon, 10 December 2018, 12:53:56
Post by: Ejusdemgeneris on Mon, 10 December 2018, 12:59:02
I am currently living in China. Is it possible for me to join the Chinese group buys without the 15 usd shipping fees and pay with alipay or wechat pay instead? Thank you so much.
Post by: clik_clak on Mon, 10 December 2018, 13:00:25
I have one and have never noticed any lag. Though I top out at like 70/80 WPM.Could you experiment with the debounce, as others have reported, and see if that produces lag?
I don't know what debounce is, I don't know that I want to introduce something that would create lag though
It's a configurable delay built into most firmware to deal with potential ghost keypresses if the keyboard matrix is scanned to often/rapidly.
The theory is that the lag is caused by the debounce delay being set too high and that lowering it will resolve the issue.
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Set it to 1.
If you run into issues with keys being registered multiple times keep bumping it up by 1 until it stops.
With the price drop I'm really considering going in on these and comparing them to Holy Pandas or playing around with the spring weight, but the PayPal fees are a bit ****ty, especially since PayPal has specifically stated not to charge it on orders like this.
Pretty common practice in the keyboard community. I can't remember the last KB GB I joined outside of MD that hasn't had a paypal fee included.
Post by: trg1234 on Mon, 10 December 2018, 13:11:02
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 10 December 2018, 13:54:55
With the price drop I'm really considering going in on these and comparing them to Holy Pandas or playing around with the spring weight, but the PayPal fees are a bit ****ty, especially since PayPal has specifically stated not to charge it on orders like this.
Ya sure no paypal fee at $1.5 per switch. :thumb: Your choice
I am sure Supervan can accommodate that :)
Post by: Ashardalon on Mon, 10 December 2018, 14:51:59
Post by: SuperVan on Mon, 10 December 2018, 15:14:38
I sent in a request for an invoice a little while ago but haven't received any as of yet. Would I be able to get an update on this, please?Thanks for your support. I'm sending invoices now. Wait a moment plz, I need a little time.
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 10 December 2018, 15:41:01
With the price drop I'm really considering going in on these and comparing them to Holy Pandas or playing around with the spring weight, but the PayPal fees are a bit ****ty, especially since PayPal has specifically stated not to charge it on orders like this.
Pretty common practice in the keyboard community. I can't remember the last KB GB I joined outside of MD that hasn't had a paypal fee included.
TBF, most vendors doing keyset GBs have fees calculated ahead of time. It's not especially difficult to just do (your price)/.956(for intl orders, or just .97 for CONUS only) to get approximately what the price will be with the fee included.
Post by: SuperVan on Mon, 10 December 2018, 17:02:07
Thanks for all your support. The first 50 invoices have seen sent. Feel free to contact me if you have any question.
Post by: booleanjulien on Mon, 10 December 2018, 17:10:46
Post by: SuperVan on Mon, 10 December 2018, 17:16:49
50 out of how many? Still waiting for mine.I will try to finish sending invoices tomorrow. ;D
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 10 December 2018, 17:17:44
50 out of how many? Still waiting for mine.
Relax bro, you will get your invoice in the new few days
Edit: Didn't see OP has replied
Post by: kairuwu on Mon, 10 December 2018, 18:34:04
Post by: msvming on Mon, 10 December 2018, 18:54:18
Im in for 90. ;D
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 10 December 2018, 19:13:34
What shipping service are you planning on using to send these?
It should be express shipping. Not like 3 day, but like a week from China.
Post by: KingzandBean on Mon, 10 December 2018, 19:20:28
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Post by: oldcat on Mon, 10 December 2018, 19:39:44
I really want to make a healios x Gsus = Jesus's Sun frankenswitch but just so my keeb can rep one of my favorite books
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I did try Tealio stem + panda casing. its interesting
Post by: JubJubCity on Mon, 10 December 2018, 20:57:45
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 11 December 2018, 01:49:56
I really want to make a healios x Gsus = Jesus's Sun frankenswitch but just so my keeb can rep one of my favorite books
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I did try Tealio stem + panda casing. its interesting
Interesting in a good way? I've heard Pandas in their stock form was hella scratchy.
Post by: Regret on Tue, 11 December 2018, 04:14:20
Post by: up-in on Tue, 11 December 2018, 04:18:01
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 11 December 2018, 06:47:42
Post by: Solotov on Tue, 11 December 2018, 06:53:22
Hey guys, i’m interested to buy some and going to add halo stem into it, but i have a question. I also want to lube the switches to reduce the sound, do you guys know which lube to use that good enough for these and easy to get in Europe?
I lubed my original holy panda with Tribosys 3203, and I didn't lube on the leg parts. IMO, lubing doesn't reduce the sound much, and actually it reduces the tactile of holy panda to a degree, which I prefer it unlubed. But the springs do have ping sound, so it's a benefit to lube the spring. That is for original holy panda though. The gsus has a different spring, so things maybe different. Also, people may have different opinions based on their tastes. :thumb:
Post by: spooknik on Tue, 11 December 2018, 07:43:42
Hey guys, i’m interested to buy some and going to add halo stem into it, but i have a question. I also want to lube the switches to reduce the sound, do you guys know which lube to use that good enough for these and easy to get in Europe?
Mykeyboard (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/accessories/lubricant_43/) usually stocks from Tribosys 3204. They seems to be sold out at the moment. I assume they'll get more in eventually.
Post by: up-in on Tue, 11 December 2018, 09:07:06
Mykeyboard (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/accessories/lubricant_43/) usually stocks from Tribosys 3204. They seems to be sold out at the moment. I assume they'll get more in eventually.
I lubed my original holy panda with Tribosys 3203, and I didn't lube on the leg parts. IMO, lubing doesn't reduce the sound much, and actually it reduces the tactile of holy panda to a degree, which I prefer it unlubed. But the springs do have ping sound, so it's a benefit to lube the spring. That is for original holy panda though. The gsus has a different spring, so things maybe different. Also, people may have different opinions based on their tastes. :thumb:
thanks for the responses, i'm going to try without lube first and hope mykeyboard eu restock the lube.
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 11 December 2018, 09:44:13
Mykeyboard (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/accessories/lubricant_43/) usually stocks from Tribosys 3204. They seems to be sold out at the moment. I assume they'll get more in eventually.I lubed my original holy panda with Tribosys 3203, and I didn't lube on the leg parts. IMO, lubing doesn't reduce the sound much, and actually it reduces the tactile of holy panda to a degree, which I prefer it unlubed. But the springs do have ping sound, so it's a benefit to lube the spring. That is for original holy panda though. The gsus has a different spring, so things maybe different. Also, people may have different opinions based on their tastes. :thumb:
thanks for the responses, i'm going to try without lube first and hope mykeyboard eu restock the lube.
Try 65g sprit spring, it’s very good on HP
Post by: ian13 on Tue, 11 December 2018, 10:09:44
And man, that tealio stem on panda housing sounds interesting. Does it make the sound "more appealing" (i.e. deeper, lesser clack, plasticky sound) than stock tealio housing?
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 11 December 2018, 12:39:17
Has anyone tried zilent stems on panda housing?
And man, that tealio stem on panda housing sounds interesting. Does it make the sound "more appealing" (i.e. deeper, lesser clack, plasticky sound) than stock tealio housing?
Tealio stem is shorter than halo I believe, so doesnt really have any sound in the downstroke (unless you smash it)
Post by: mrpetrov on Tue, 11 December 2018, 14:09:51
Post by: ttot on Tue, 11 December 2018, 14:22:18
I haven't received an invoice yet...
same here
Post by: Vermilionone on Tue, 11 December 2018, 15:01:14
Thank you!
Post by: SuperVan on Tue, 11 December 2018, 15:39:57
I haven't received an invoice yet...
same here
I'm not sure if I was supposed to alert SuperVan separately. I am also waiting for an invoice.Thanks for your support. I need some time to send your invoices. Don't worry about your invoices.
Thank you!
Post by: SuperVan on Tue, 11 December 2018, 15:47:47
Post by: Aox on Tue, 11 December 2018, 17:02:42
Post by: trg1234 on Tue, 11 December 2018, 18:11:47
Post by: CtrlAlt on Tue, 11 December 2018, 21:11:56
Post by: JubJubCity on Tue, 11 December 2018, 21:59:15
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 11 December 2018, 22:00:34
Can't wait just ordered some more halo's from massdrop
I just ordered 220 more halo trues haha
Post by: nulltorious on Tue, 11 December 2018, 22:09:55
Can't wait just ordered some more halo's from massdrop
I just ordered 220 more halo trues haha
I'm in for 110 more as well since the recent halo drop. Please invoice soon for GSUS!
Post by: JubJubCity on Tue, 11 December 2018, 22:16:15
Lol no need to wait till May to have some panda'sCan't wait just ordered some more halo's from massdrop
I just ordered 220 more halo trues haha
Post by: Keebmeupscotty on Wed, 12 December 2018, 00:41:06
Post by: SuperVan on Wed, 12 December 2018, 02:35:22
Invoice paid for 75. I feel like the shipping was a bit rough, but I can see you wanting to average it out across all orders and that some might cost more than others. Regardless, thx for giving my holy chickies the opportunity to mature into holy GSUSes :-)Thanks for your understanding. :)
Post by: firezlife on Wed, 12 December 2018, 06:55:21
Post by: Mekuno on Wed, 12 December 2018, 09:43:51
Post by: Kurisu666 on Wed, 12 December 2018, 15:24:47
At the end of the day whatever story doesn't matter. The fact that good switches are out in the wild is good for everyone. And so far no one's been scammed so no harm no foul. Live and let live.
Post by: rondg on Wed, 12 December 2018, 16:02:10
Post by: donkey on Wed, 12 December 2018, 16:18:52
Anyway, looking forward to my invoice under reddit account 'donpark' for 200 soon.
- Don
Post by: SuperVan on Wed, 12 December 2018, 16:22:34
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 12 December 2018, 18:16:43
Post by: portbaron on Wed, 12 December 2018, 22:24:21
Post by: ihalatch on Wed, 12 December 2018, 22:47:05
Post by: Ashardalon on Wed, 12 December 2018, 23:13:20
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 12 December 2018, 23:22:47
Post by: RamenTechMech on Wed, 12 December 2018, 23:26:25
Post by: ilouis_07 on Thu, 13 December 2018, 09:44:14
I still haven't received mine. :(Me too:(
Post by: nulltorious on Thu, 13 December 2018, 09:55:36
Post by: trg1234 on Thu, 13 December 2018, 11:52:52
Post by: Poblopuablo on Thu, 13 December 2018, 13:50:53
Post by: SuperVan on Thu, 13 December 2018, 13:55:25
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Post by: Vermilionone on Thu, 13 December 2018, 14:07:07
Post by: Lansky on Thu, 13 December 2018, 14:13:26
Post by: elpepe21 on Thu, 13 December 2018, 14:18:15
Post by: spooknik on Thu, 13 December 2018, 14:53:13
First 300 invoices have been sent.
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Received mine and paid! Thanks.
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 13 December 2018, 15:27:04
Paid. Time to start takin apart these halos
Did you get a nutcracker by Louis?
Post by: elpepe21 on Thu, 13 December 2018, 15:51:40
Paid. Time to start takin apart these halos
Did you get a nutcracker by Louis?
Nope, but it sounds like I should check it out. I just got a pair of trusty tweezers atm.....
Post by: Little4Real on Thu, 13 December 2018, 16:31:03
Post by: nasp on Thu, 13 December 2018, 17:01:34
Post by: clik_clak on Thu, 13 December 2018, 17:03:53
Am I silly to use these by themselves? I like linears.
For the price, yes. You have much better options at less than half the cost of these.
I'd suggest some retooled blacks from Arrow for .27 a piece with free shipping. New customers can get 15% off their first order, too.
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 13 December 2018, 17:14:08
Am I silly to use these by themselves? I like linears.
For the price, yes. You have much better options at less than half the cost of these.
I'd suggest some retooled blacks from Arrow for .27 a piece with free shipping. New customers can get 15% off their first order, too.
i second this
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Thu, 13 December 2018, 17:33:15
First 300 invoices have been sent.
Wew, 300 invoices. Is there a shipping difference between early and later invoices? I signed up late. X(
Are all of these switches being produced then shipped at the same time? Or in batches?
Post by: WilySouser on Thu, 13 December 2018, 18:28:32
Post by: CtrlAlt on Thu, 13 December 2018, 21:25:34
Post by: nulltorious on Thu, 13 December 2018, 21:31:29
No invoice received :(
Invoice received and paid :)
Post by: vonswoopington on Thu, 13 December 2018, 21:39:45
Post by: donkey on Thu, 13 December 2018, 22:50:15
Would be nice to have them shipped ASAP w/o waiting for GB to end.
There is still good chance some of us can get them before X-mas. :-)
Post by: vegs on Fri, 14 December 2018, 01:31:01
Post by: cucgach on Fri, 14 December 2018, 04:03:01
Post by: vikipedeer on Fri, 14 December 2018, 06:48:46
Post by: online on Fri, 14 December 2018, 08:09:19
Post by: leece3 on Fri, 14 December 2018, 12:52:28
Am I silly to use these by themselves? I like linears.
For the price, yes. You have much better options at less than half the cost of these.
I'd suggest some retooled blacks from Arrow for .27 a piece with free shipping. New customers can get 15% off their first order, too.
But what about some top notch stem (like retooled black? gateron?) in a GSUS housing? Anybody tried such with the old Invyr Panda? If it works for tactile switches/stems, why not for linears...?
Post by: trg1234 on Fri, 14 December 2018, 13:12:30
Post by: SuperVan on Fri, 14 December 2018, 14:03:26
Post by: RamenTechMech on Fri, 14 December 2018, 14:11:05
Post by: DasGnome on Fri, 14 December 2018, 14:11:25
Am I silly to use these by themselves? I like linears.
For the price, yes. You have much better options at less than half the cost of these.
I'd suggest some retooled blacks from Arrow for .27 a piece with free shipping. New customers can get 15% off their first order, too.
But what about some top notch stem (like retooled black? gateron?) in a GSUS housing? Anybody tried such with the old Invyr Panda? If it works for tactile switches/stems, why not for linears...?
Because people only kind of care about the housing for the sound as it's a bit scratchy. It's the large tactile leaf that is the biggest draw; it protrudes out farther and in a particular way that people like. No reason to use this housing when you can get smoother housings for cheaper (vintage black, retooled black, black bottom gateron, TTC black, etc). Panda linears do have fans, but they were a hard sell until the tactile combination was discovered if go read the old Invyr Panda GB thread.
Post by: RamenTechMech on Fri, 14 December 2018, 23:10:22
Paid!!! Thank you for your hard work SuperVan!!!
Hi SuperVan,
How may I order more under the same email? Do I have to email you and place another order manually?
Post by: 2ndRoad805 on Fri, 14 December 2018, 23:24:05
I regret paying $70 for half a switch.
*Edit* I mistakenly read MD's Holy Panda switch costs. They come out around $1/switch. While these with the halo trues/clears will come out at a similar price now with the price reduction. Apologies.
Post by: ptiede on Sat, 15 December 2018, 00:07:52
Post by: 2ndRoad805 on Sat, 15 December 2018, 00:23:55
Post by: 1023andy on Sat, 15 December 2018, 00:52:24
Post by: Ashardalon on Sat, 15 December 2018, 00:53:23
That's exactly what happened. I am not thrilled that MD uses that kind of tactic to make their switches seem competitive at first glance.
They're able to do that because they're ordering them to be manufactured, these are already in-stock, but Invyr Panda/GSUS are **** switches without the Halo stem, so you basically have to buy them anyway, which means even at the price these are at and the Halo switches, it's still $1/switch USD.
It's not a "tactic", it's actually offering buyers the chance to get better value per switch, and this happens with lots of products.
Post by: Ashardalon on Sat, 15 December 2018, 00:53:54
I just bought 90 but didn't get the invoice yet
He has to manually create his invoices, but he'll send it to you in the next few days.
Post by: 2ndRoad805 on Sat, 15 December 2018, 01:08:18
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sat, 15 December 2018, 01:29:08
When I see something listed as +$70 I'm not thinking base $20 + $70 = $90 actual price. Why not just list the actual price? I can't tell you how you would interpret that, but I can tell you it was deceptive to me.
It's just pricing tiers. It's also there because the price drops after you buy so many switches.
Post by: cucgach on Sat, 15 December 2018, 01:41:30
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 15 December 2018, 05:25:51
- who has leftover halo stems
- who wants to use other stems (cherry clear stem, zealio stem, outemu clear stem).
Daily remainder, the most tactile switch is clear/outemu +panda, not the holy panda. The holy panda is just very particular in the travel/rounded tactility
Post by: donkey on Sat, 15 December 2018, 06:24:59
Everyone assuming that the halo switch is the only stem used in pandas. You should join both GBs. Even if It's different from OG panda and i trust the massdrop output more, gsus at 0.6 is actually nice for:
- who has leftover halo stems
- who wants to use other stems (cherry clear stem, zealio stem, outemu clear stem).
Daily remainder, the most tactile switch is clear/outemu +panda, not the holy panda. The holy panda is just very particular in the travel/rounded tactility
Yup. I can verify that MX Clear and Zealios V1/V2 stems in Panda housing retain their own distinct feel but with extra 'oof' tactility. To me, Panda Effect is reduced with Outemu Sky stems for some reason. The non-Halo combo I liked the most is Zealios V2 stem combo, aka Zanda V2, which added something extra to the Zealios V2 feel.
Post by: SuperVan on Sat, 15 December 2018, 12:07:25
You can send me a message or email. I will update your order.Paid!!! Thank you for your hard work SuperVan!!!
Hi SuperVan,
How may I order more under the same email? Do I have to email you and place another order manually?
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 15 December 2018, 12:40:28
The massdrop holy panda is a dollar a switch unless you get 330 switches for $260+$20 (don't forget the base price) which is 78 cents a switch.
Hmm, math comes out as 0.848 though if I am not mistaken
Post by: ptiede on Sat, 15 December 2018, 12:56:05
The massdrop holy panda is a dollar a switch unless you get 330 switches for $260+$20 (don't forget the base price) which is 78 cents a switch.
Hmm, math comes out as 0.848 though if I am not mistaken
You are correct. I must've accidentally put in 360 switches. This is what I get for not sleeping for the last few weeks.
Post by: Vermilionone on Sat, 15 December 2018, 18:32:21
Post by: Little4Real on Sat, 15 December 2018, 18:52:16
will shipping come with tracking?
Same thing I'm wondering
Post by: spooknik on Sun, 16 December 2018, 02:05:29
will shipping come with tracking?
Same thing I'm wondering
IIRC, I saw somewhere that it would be sent via SF Express, which is tracked.
Post by: Lansky on Sun, 16 December 2018, 07:13:03
Post by: Ashardalon on Sun, 16 December 2018, 11:24:58
Luckily I managed to get in on the Halo True drop on MD two days ago and got the shipping notification a few hours later. So now I'm crossing my fingers that these GSUS switches will be shipping out soon as well. ^-^
SuperVan said he'll be shipping them out on the 20th. Unfortunate it's not a bit sooner but you can have them ready to make some Holy GSUS by then!
Post by: SuperVan on Sun, 16 December 2018, 12:18:47
will shipping come with tracking?
Same thing I'm wonderingOf course. ;D
Post by: Lansky on Sun, 16 December 2018, 14:09:15
Luckily I managed to get in on the Halo True drop on MD two days ago and got the shipping notification a few hours later. So now I'm crossing my fingers that these GSUS switches will be shipping out soon as well. ^-^
SuperVan said he'll be shipping them out on the 20th. Unfortunate it's not a bit sooner but you can have them ready to make some Holy GSUS by then!
Thanks for the heads up! I probably won't have time to play around with keyboard related stuff until after New Years, so it's not super urgent. But good to hear he's planning on shipping them out soon. ;)
Post by: ZyBeR on Sun, 16 December 2018, 14:43:43
Post by: Little4Real on Sun, 16 December 2018, 15:21:36
will shipping come with tracking?Same thing I'm wonderingOf course. ;D
By the way, what shipping service are you using?
Post by: SaiZn on Sun, 16 December 2018, 17:57:35
Post by: donkey on Sun, 16 December 2018, 19:39:39
I just got my SF Express tracking number. I wonder if he'll start shipping early
Sounds great. Hope shipment is in payment order as I doubt I'll get mine 'this year' if its invoice order. :-)
Post by: sad0022 on Sun, 16 December 2018, 20:08:50
Post by: online on Mon, 17 December 2018, 03:46:59
Post by: ZyBeR on Mon, 17 December 2018, 14:25:34
Post by: asphyxia on Mon, 17 December 2018, 21:35:31
Post by: 2ndRoad805 on Tue, 18 December 2018, 00:24:49
Post by: glack23 on Tue, 18 December 2018, 00:46:59
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Post by: Ashardalon on Tue, 18 December 2018, 01:20:54
What is the recommended lube for pandas?
Depends on preference. Most would say Tribosys 3204, I'm going to try 3204 and 205g0 to see which I prefer. Might also try one with GHV4 for fun.
Post by: SuperVan on Tue, 18 December 2018, 07:26:21
Is there a order list we can check the status of the order?I will update later.
Post by: Chewwy on Tue, 18 December 2018, 07:59:33
Anyone intend to do springswap?I might use my old 78g from V1 Zealios. I'm not a big fan of lighter switches. May even try the Halo True springs and see how that feels.
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Post by: Little4Real on Tue, 18 December 2018, 10:29:14
What is the recommended lube for pandas?
Depends on preference. Most would say Tribosys 3204, I'm going to try 3204 and 205g0 to see which I prefer. Might also try one with GHV4 for fun.
You might wanna try Tribosys 3203 instead so you don't lose much of the tactility versus a thicker grease
Post by: Little4Real on Tue, 18 December 2018, 10:31:52
Anyone intend to do springswap?I might use my old 78g from V1 Zealios. I'm not a big fan of lighter switches. May even try the Halo True springs and see how that feels.
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I literally just ordered 72g progressive springs from SPRiT
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 18 December 2018, 12:43:09
What is the recommended lube for pandas?
Depends on preference. Most would say Tribosys 3204, I'm going to try 3204 and 205g0 to see which I prefer. Might also try one with GHV4 for fun.
You might wanna try Tribosys 3203 instead so you don't lose much of the tactility versus a thicker grease
Can confirm that 3203 works better for holy panda
Post by: Lansky on Tue, 18 December 2018, 14:20:54
Anyone intend to do springswap?
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I have some 68g catweewee gold springs leftover, I'll probably try those.
Post by: booleanjulien on Tue, 18 December 2018, 16:13:52
Anyone intend to do springswap?I might use my old 78g from V1 Zealios. I'm not a big fan of lighter switches. May even try the Halo True springs and see how that feels.
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I literally just ordered 72g progressive springs from SPRiT
May I ask where you were able to order the progressive springs? Their website seems to only sell S series, not P:
https://www.spritdesigns.com/product-page/mx
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Tue, 18 December 2018, 16:40:25
I might use my old 78g from V1 Zealios. I'm not a big fan of lighter switches. May even try the Halo True springs and see how that feels.
This Holy Pandas review is pretty against using the halo springs if you plan to lube:
Update: Holier Pandas feel like absolute garbage when lubed. So, if you do plan to do Holier Pandas, don't lube them at all. If you do want to lube, go with Holy Pandas. Difference between Holy and Holier pandas are the springs (Holier Pandas use Halo True spring, while Holy Pandas use the 67g Panda spring), thats it.
Source (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7x7lgf/holy_panda_review_halo_stem_panda_housing_and/)
I'm going to try using my 78g Zealios v1 Round 10 springs. Didn't even know about Tribosys 3203 until reading these comments.
Post by: onefivenine on Tue, 18 December 2018, 16:50:07
May I ask where you were able to order the progressive springs? Their website seems to only sell S series, not P:
https://www.spritdesigns.com/product-page/mx
https://www.spritdesigns.com/product-page/progressive
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 18 December 2018, 17:22:32
I might use my old 78g from V1 Zealios. I'm not a big fan of lighter switches. May even try the Halo True springs and see how that feels.
This Holy Pandas review is pretty against using the halo springs if you plan to lube:
Update: Holier Pandas feel like absolute garbage when lubed. So, if you do plan to do Holier Pandas, don't lube them at all. If you do want to lube, go with Holy Pandas. Difference between Holy and Holier pandas are the springs (Holier Pandas use Halo True spring, while Holy Pandas use the 67g Panda spring), thats it.
Source (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7x7lgf/holy_panda_review_halo_stem_panda_housing_and/)
I'm going to try using my 78g Zealios v1 Round 10 springs. Didn't even know about Tribosys 3203 until reading these comments.
Thought Holier Pandas just used market springs and Holy Pandas used the original Panda springs
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Tue, 18 December 2018, 17:25:05
Thought Holier Pandas just used market springs and Holy Pandas used the original Panda springs
I'm not sure what Holier Pandas refers to outside of that link I posted, but within the confines of that particular review:
I was in for a surprise, but, I have to say, I have grown too accustomed to the Halo True springs and I swapped the springs out for those, and honestly, I'd call these the "Holier Pandas".
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Tue, 18 December 2018, 17:25:28
Post by: booleanjulien on Tue, 18 December 2018, 21:05:03
May I ask where you were able to order the progressive springs? Their website seems to only sell S series, not P:
https://www.spritdesigns.com/product-page/mx
https://www.spritdesigns.com/product-page/progressive
Thanks.. for some reason I thought "STORE" and "PRODUCTS" had the same content.
Post by: donkey on Wed, 19 December 2018, 04:23:54
If there are any remaining stock, I'm pretty sure they'll sell out fast on r/MM, even at $1/switch, when a flood of Holy Gsus posts starts.
Post by: spooknik on Wed, 19 December 2018, 06:36:41
Edit: I've PM'ed you Supervan.
Post by: Sissy on Wed, 19 December 2018, 06:50:05
Post by: Drake9800 on Wed, 19 December 2018, 12:44:55
Post by: booleanjulien on Wed, 19 December 2018, 12:46:43
Post by: RamenTechMech on Wed, 19 December 2018, 12:51:20
Any way to increase my order amount? I already paid my invoice. I thought I could go submit the form again, but now it says I already responded.
Send SuperVan a direct message on how many more you want and he'll adjust it for you
Post by: booleanjulien on Wed, 19 December 2018, 12:54:14
Any way to increase my order amount? I already paid my invoice. I thought I could go submit the form again, but now it says I already responded.
Send SuperVan a direct message on how many more you want and he'll adjust it for you
Just did that. Thanks :)
Post by: SuperVan on Wed, 19 December 2018, 13:18:50
Like a total rookie I placed an order this morning after seeing reviews about Gsus holy pandas/massdrop holy pandas being no different. I was unaware these required further assembly and different parts to make Holy pandas. I've asked for a refund and hope it's not too late :'(
Any way to increase my order amount? I already paid my invoice. I thought I could go submit the form again, but now it says I already responded.
Send SuperVan a direct message on how many more you want and he'll adjust it for you
Just did that. Thanks :)
Done.
Post by: SuperVan on Wed, 19 December 2018, 13:22:28
Thanks for your support.
The GB will be closed at Dec. 20th 0:00am pst.
Feel free to ask any question by personal message.
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 19 December 2018, 13:46:39
Like a total rookie I placed an order this morning after seeing reviews about Gsus holy pandas/massdrop holy pandas being no different. I was unaware these required further assembly and different parts to make Holy pandas. I've asked for a refund and hope it's not too late :'(
F
Post by: get_weird on Wed, 19 December 2018, 19:12:55
Post by: donkey on Wed, 19 December 2018, 22:15:45
Is there an estimate for how long shipping to the US will take?
Should take about a week to US, I think.
Post by: Ensaum on Thu, 20 December 2018, 00:53:57
Post by: SuperVan on Thu, 20 December 2018, 01:07:08
Is there an estimate for how long shipping to the US will take?Sorry, I cannot promise. According to my previous experience using SF-Express, it will take 2-3 week.
Post by: SuperVan on Thu, 20 December 2018, 02:00:06
I need a few hours to collate information, then I will ship Gsus switches to you.
Thank you again for your support.
After shipping, I will focus on designing a new stem which fits Gsus perfectly.
Post by: ZyBeR on Thu, 20 December 2018, 02:51:36
Post by: Lansky on Thu, 20 December 2018, 03:19:03
Post by: rondg on Thu, 20 December 2018, 03:44:27
The GB ended. I will cancel unpaid invoices later.
I need a few hours to collate information, then I will ship Gsus switches to you.
Thank you again for your support.
After shipping, I will focus on designing a new stem which fits Gsus perfectly.
So you're making a proper linear switch? Nice!
Post by: MonsterZero on Thu, 20 December 2018, 07:10:24
Post by: schoolbus on Thu, 20 December 2018, 07:33:08
Damn MD really played this community and GSUS like a fiddle! Announcing that their samples were fake just on a day competitors' GB is closing :))
That's why you diversify your bonds, per Wu-Tang financial.
Post by: spooknik on Thu, 20 December 2018, 07:59:48
Damn MD really played this community and GSUS like a fiddle! Announcing that their samples were fake just on a day competitors' GB is closing :))
It's ironic because in the IC post people were claiming that SuperVan would just send OG pandas as samples (which he didn't) and then MD pulls that same trick. Glad I bought some Gsus switches that's all I can say.
Post by: donkey on Thu, 20 December 2018, 09:30:52
Just don't take risks you don't want to take and leave it at that.
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 20 December 2018, 11:32:25
IMO, habit of reading between the lines is not healthy, mentally.
Just don't take risks you don't want to take and leave it at that.
occam's razor
Post by: cemoon on Thu, 20 December 2018, 13:24:18
Post by: SuperVan on Thu, 20 December 2018, 13:28:34
Did they get shipped? I've never gotten an email, or they just don't do that?I'm filling your shipping information. I need some time to do that. ;D
Post by: wcmbk on Thu, 20 December 2018, 13:45:33
Post by: cemoon on Thu, 20 December 2018, 13:47:50
Did they get shipped? I've never gotten an email, or they just don't do that?I'm filling your shipping information. I need some time to do that. ;D
OK, great! I thought you forgot me!! Thanks!!
Post by: ullr on Thu, 20 December 2018, 14:23:45
Post by: Signature on Thu, 20 December 2018, 18:08:32
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Thu, 20 December 2018, 18:16:55
Post by: Signature on Thu, 20 December 2018, 18:23:04
thank Doggo modback at ya
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Post by: taptaptap on Fri, 21 December 2018, 05:20:34
Post by: H3NT4I on Fri, 21 December 2018, 07:55:19
Post by: ZyBeR on Fri, 21 December 2018, 08:15:53
Post by: Mcnos on Fri, 21 December 2018, 08:21:28
Post by: SuperVan on Fri, 21 December 2018, 09:43:20
Post by: vtachkov on Fri, 21 December 2018, 09:52:23
Post by: JubJubCity on Fri, 21 December 2018, 11:05:56
Post by: YiZZo on Fri, 21 December 2018, 11:20:15
Post by: RamenTechMech on Fri, 21 December 2018, 11:21:51
May your tracking #'s bring you joy ;)
Post by: donkey on Fri, 21 December 2018, 11:24:08
Post by: up-in on Fri, 21 December 2018, 13:17:07
woohoo i got shipping info too. i am surprised too since since I joined the very last minute. Praise GSUS!
very lucky! I still have not gotten mine, though i ordered not that last minute :rolleyes:
but still, Praise GSUS! ;D
Post by: Koatl on Fri, 21 December 2018, 15:00:22
Gsus' name be praised!
Post by: tunadesu on Fri, 21 December 2018, 19:16:39
Post by: kakiharaOne on Fri, 21 December 2018, 19:53:39
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Post by: Ashardalon on Fri, 21 December 2018, 23:30:07
Post by: Mcnos on Fri, 21 December 2018, 23:31:06
Post by: Vermilionone on Sat, 22 December 2018, 00:06:06
Post by: Ashardalon on Sat, 22 December 2018, 01:01:37
Post by: DillonHightower on Sat, 22 December 2018, 04:54:56
Post by: pino38 on Sat, 22 December 2018, 07:22:13
Post by: ThomasTH on Sat, 22 December 2018, 07:43:38
Still havnt received mine , and im within the first 100 orders :( (#0093)Didn't get mine either, maybe we aren't in the main ordering countries
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Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 22 December 2018, 09:26:08
Small gb extension of a day or two would boost some serious sales at this point
Is that because there is absolutely no way there'll be a second round any time soon now that the tooling has been funded and that people have seemingly accepted that the practical effect of these is the same as OGs?
Post by: pino38 on Sat, 22 December 2018, 10:10:44
Lucky us!Still havnt received mine , and im within the first 100 orders :( (#0093)Didn't get mine either, maybe we aren't in the main ordering countries
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Post by: Lansky on Sat, 22 December 2018, 15:27:11
Post by: JubJubCity on Sat, 22 December 2018, 15:36:20
Post by: trg1234 on Sat, 22 December 2018, 19:53:24
Post by: JubJubCity on Sat, 22 December 2018, 20:53:14
Are these tracking for SF?Mine is
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 22 December 2018, 21:07:18
Are these tracking for SF?
after it lands in US, it's either UPS or USPS
Post by: dimo on Sat, 22 December 2018, 22:09:05
I wish the gb was extended a bit because of the md stuff
Post by: Mcnos on Sat, 22 December 2018, 22:15:27
Should've probably got some :c
I wish the gb was extended a bit because of the md stuff
Welp
Post by: Kurisu666 on Sat, 22 December 2018, 23:51:20
Post by: JubJubCity on Sun, 23 December 2018, 18:21:34
Post by: donkey on Sun, 23 December 2018, 18:39:58
I was able to track the shipment to Beijing Tongzhou Distribution Center using the tracking number on Paypal payment record but got same messages.
By 'customer', I assume it's @SuperVan but have no idea what related fees are.
While shipments to US appears to be stuck in Beijing, looks like Korean buyers already got theirs 2 days ago:
Post by: SuperVan on Sun, 23 December 2018, 18:48:18
Not sure what this message means hoping this gets resolved
> Customer hasn't pay off related fees. We will follow up.Hi,
I was able to track the shipment to Beijing Tongzhou Distribution Center using the tracking number on Paypal payment record but got same messages.
By 'customer', I assume it's @SuperVan but have no idea what related fees are.
While shipments to US appears to be stuck in Beijing, looks like Korean buyers already got theirs 2 days ago:
Sorry about that. Beacause of lag of SF-Express and time difference, I didn't pay for shipping fee on time. But I have paid for it now, you can check your ship information later.
Post by: dimo on Sun, 23 December 2018, 18:50:06
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Post by: JubJubCity on Sun, 23 December 2018, 18:59:42
Thanks for the clarification supervan, can't wait to slap some trues in them and make some holy GSUSNot sure what this message means hoping this gets resolved> Customer hasn't pay off related fees. We will follow up.Hi,
I was able to track the shipment to Beijing Tongzhou Distribution Center using the tracking number on Paypal payment record but got same messages.
By 'customer', I assume it's @SuperVan but have no idea what related fees are.
While shipments to US appears to be stuck in Beijing, looks like Korean buyers already got theirs 2 days ago:
Sorry about that. Beacause of lag of SF-Express and time difference, I didn't pay for shipping fee on time. But I have paid for it now, you can check your ship information later.
Post by: RamenTechMech on Sun, 23 December 2018, 19:01:09
Thanks for the clarification supervan, can't wait to slap some trues in them and make some holy GSUSNot sure what this message means hoping this gets resolved> Customer hasn't pay off related fees. We will follow up.Hi,
I was able to track the shipment to Beijing Tongzhou Distribution Center using the tracking number on Paypal payment record but got same messages.
By 'customer', I assume it's @SuperVan but have no idea what related fees are.
While shipments to US appears to be stuck in Beijing, looks like Korean buyers already got theirs 2 days ago:
Sorry about that. Beacause of lag of SF-Express and time difference, I didn't pay for shipping fee on time. But I have paid for it now, you can check your ship information later.
Waiting game now ;DThanks for the clarification supervan, can't wait to slap some trues in them and make some holy GSUSNot sure what this message means hoping this gets resolved> Customer hasn't pay off related fees. We will follow up.Hi,
I was able to track the shipment to Beijing Tongzhou Distribution Center using the tracking number on Paypal payment record but got same messages.
By 'customer', I assume it's @SuperVan but have no idea what related fees are.
While shipments to US appears to be stuck in Beijing, looks like Korean buyers already got theirs 2 days ago:
Sorry about that. Beacause of lag of SF-Express and time difference, I didn't pay for shipping fee on time. But I have paid for it now, you can check your ship information later.
Post by: Darknight00z on Sun, 23 December 2018, 19:02:36
Post by: SuperVan on Sun, 23 December 2018, 19:38:44
Anyone else waiting for shipping notifications?I found that I have uploaded your shipment information just now. ;D
Post by: booleanjulien on Sun, 23 December 2018, 21:11:53
Post by: ptiede on Sun, 23 December 2018, 22:22:16
Post by: Ashardalon on Sun, 23 December 2018, 23:33:22
Post by: Mekuno on Mon, 24 December 2018, 00:48:16
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 24 December 2018, 01:21:41
Post by: Lansky on Mon, 24 December 2018, 05:27:43
Post by: vegs on Mon, 24 December 2018, 09:47:39
Post by: donkey on Mon, 24 December 2018, 14:09:04
Quote
QuoteCustomer hasn't pay off related fees. We will follow up.
Sorry about that. Beacause of lag of SF-Express and time difference, I didn't pay for shipping fee on time. But I have paid for it now, you can check your ship information later.
@SuperVan,
Looks like my suspicions may be wrong. Just got this update:
Quote
Shipment loaded at 【Beijing Tongzhou Distribution Center 】, prepare to send to 【Dongguan Shatian Distribution Center】I just hope it's moving forward and not backward. :fingers-crossed:
Post by: Enemy on Mon, 24 December 2018, 20:14:12
Post by: vikipedeer on Mon, 24 December 2018, 20:44:53
how do I track my order?
Post by: clik_clak on Mon, 24 December 2018, 20:50:48
I got my tracking number but I can't use it on sf-express site
how do I track my order?
It takes 2-3 days usually for the tracking to show up through SF
Post by: distracteddev on Tue, 25 December 2018, 00:56:44
Post by: cucgach on Tue, 25 December 2018, 07:07:27
Post by: cemoon on Tue, 25 December 2018, 08:39:33
Post by: rondg on Tue, 25 December 2018, 09:17:12
Got my tracking number, but shipment information not found on sf-express tracking site.
Wait for 3 to 4 days. Mine was also like that at first.
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 25 December 2018, 11:03:44
Dang it
Post by: DukeEsquire on Tue, 25 December 2018, 11:17:22
Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 25 December 2018, 11:18:27
Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Post by: SaiZn on Tue, 25 December 2018, 11:29:07
Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Isn’t that $3 per switch? $29.99 for a 10 pack.
Post by: clik_clak on Tue, 25 December 2018, 11:31:36
Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Isn’t that $3 per switch? $29.99 for a 10 pack.
No, that's 10 packs. Each pack contains 10 switches, so 100 switches.... .30 a switch
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 25 December 2018, 11:32:03
Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Isn’t that $3 per switch? $29.99 for a 10 pack.
Each pack is 10 pcs it’s been confirmed by a user I think
Also read descriptions
Post by: SaiZn on Tue, 25 December 2018, 11:34:44
https://kono.store/products/novelkeys-royal-switches
Post by: DukeEsquire on Tue, 25 December 2018, 11:35:14
Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Thanks for pointing that out. That's really weird then because I was under the impression that Kono Store could not sell them.
I wonder if something changed.
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 25 December 2018, 11:37:18
Post by: DukeEsquire on Tue, 25 December 2018, 11:38:10
Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Isn’t that $3 per switch? $29.99 for a 10 pack.
No, that's 10 packs. Each pack contains 10 switches, so 100 switches.... .30 a switch
That can't be right.
Otherwise, they have some crazy prices for switches.
https://kono.store/collections/all-products-list/products/ergo-mechanical-switches
80 switches in 80 packs for $40?
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 25 December 2018, 11:40:05
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Post by: Atredl on Tue, 25 December 2018, 12:44:09
I wonder if this means MDs patent didn’t get approved. That’s the only way I see this making sense unless IC and MD are friends again (unlikely).Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Thanks for pointing that out. That's really weird then because I was under the impression that Kono Store could not sell them.
I wonder if something changed.
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 25 December 2018, 12:56:45
Another possibility is MD and IC reached an agreement to purchase Halos from MD, though that is less likely.
Post by: DukeEsquire on Tue, 25 December 2018, 13:06:53
I wonder if this means MDs patent didn’t get approved. That’s the only way I see this making sense unless IC and MD are friends again (unlikely).Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Thanks for pointing that out. That's really weird then because I was under the impression that Kono Store could not sell them.
I wonder if something changed.
This has nothing to do with patents as far as I know. It was a contractual agreement between IC and MD that the switches developed by IC and financed by MD would be owned by MD.
That said, I think this link is an error. You can't find any mention of these switches on the Kono website.
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 25 December 2018, 13:10:08
I wonder if this means MDs patent didn’t get approved. That’s the only way I see this making sense unless IC and MD are friends again (unlikely).Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Thanks for pointing that out. That's really weird then because I was under the impression that Kono Store could not sell them.
I wonder if something changed.
This has nothing to do with patents as far as I know. It was a contractual agreement between IC and MD that the switches developed by IC and financed by MD would be owned by MD.
That said, I think this link is an error. You can't find any mention of these switches on the Kono website.
Quite a few people in a qq group I’m in have ordered I think. Will see if they ship out. I’ve asked Andrew in IC discord and have not received an official answer yet
Post by: DukeEsquire on Tue, 25 December 2018, 13:37:57
I wonder if this means MDs patent didn’t get approved. That’s the only way I see this making sense unless IC and MD are friends again (unlikely).Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Thanks for pointing that out. That's really weird then because I was under the impression that Kono Store could not sell them.
I wonder if something changed.
This has nothing to do with patents as far as I know. It was a contractual agreement between IC and MD that the switches developed by IC and financed by MD would be owned by MD.
That said, I think this link is an error. You can't find any mention of these switches on the Kono website.
Quite a few people in a qq group I’m in have ordered I think. Will see if they ship out. I’ve asked Andrew in IC discord and have not received an official answer yet
Didn't you say someone confirmed that it was a 10 pack of 10 switches? Who confirmed that? Someone from Kono?
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 25 December 2018, 13:46:38
I wonder if this means MDs patent didn’t get approved. That’s the only way I see this making sense unless IC and MD are friends again (unlikely).Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Thanks for pointing that out. That's really weird then because I was under the impression that Kono Store could not sell them.
I wonder if something changed.
This has nothing to do with patents as far as I know. It was a contractual agreement between IC and MD that the switches developed by IC and financed by MD would be owned by MD.
That said, I think this link is an error. You can't find any mention of these switches on the Kono website.
Quite a few people in a qq group I’m in have ordered I think. Will see if they ship out. I’ve asked Andrew in IC discord and have not received an official answer yet
Didn't you say someone confirmed that it was a 10 pack of 10 switches? Who confirmed that? Someone from Kono?
Someone in a qq group. I’ve not verified but I’m trying to. Just a messenger here, don’t get agitated.
And I don’t think this is anything urgent, I’ve already got over 500 halo switches from massdrop and most people who need the halos already bought them. If anyone intends to buy from Kono, feel free to directly confirm with Kono about availability
I’m more interested in what’s going on than buying more halos.
Post by: DukeEsquire on Tue, 25 December 2018, 13:50:51
I wonder if this means MDs patent didn’t get approved. That’s the only way I see this making sense unless IC and MD are friends again (unlikely).Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Thanks for pointing that out. That's really weird then because I was under the impression that Kono Store could not sell them.
I wonder if something changed.
This has nothing to do with patents as far as I know. It was a contractual agreement between IC and MD that the switches developed by IC and financed by MD would be owned by MD.
That said, I think this link is an error. You can't find any mention of these switches on the Kono website.
Quite a few people in a qq group I’m in have ordered I think. Will see if they ship out. I’ve asked Andrew in IC discord and have not received an official answer yet
Didn't you say someone confirmed that it was a 10 pack of 10 switches? Who confirmed that? Someone from Kono?
Someone in a qq group. I’ve not verified but I’m trying to. Just a messenger here, don’t get agitated.
And I don’t think this is anything urgent, I’ve already got over 500 halo switches from massdrop and most people who need the halos already bought them. If anyone intends to buy from Kono, feel free to directly confirm with Kono about availability
I’m more interested in what’s going on than buying more halos.
I'm not getting agitated. I'm trying to get information.
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 25 December 2018, 14:27:41
I wonder if this means MDs patent didn’t get approved. That’s the only way I see this making sense unless IC and MD are friends again (unlikely).Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Thanks for pointing that out. That's really weird then because I was under the impression that Kono Store could not sell them.
I wonder if something changed.
This has nothing to do with patents as far as I know. It was a contractual agreement between IC and MD that the switches developed by IC and financed by MD would be owned by MD.
That said, I think this link is an error. You can't find any mention of these switches on the Kono website.
Quite a few people in a qq group I’m in have ordered I think. Will see if they ship out. I’ve asked Andrew in IC discord and have not received an official answer yet
Didn't you say someone confirmed that it was a 10 pack of 10 switches? Who confirmed that? Someone from Kono?
Someone in a qq group. I’ve not verified but I’m trying to. Just a messenger here, don’t get agitated.
And I don’t think this is anything urgent, I’ve already got over 500 halo switches from massdrop and most people who need the halos already bought them. If anyone intends to buy from Kono, feel free to directly confirm with Kono about availability
I’m more interested in what’s going on than buying more halos.
I'm not getting agitated. I'm trying to get information.
I'll bet my left nut, literally, that it is not 10 packs of 10 switches for 30 bucks. I will cut it off and mail it to you, no joke. Just look at their 36 switch offerings for their hakos. That would mean 36 packs of 36 switches for whatever they're selling them for.
Sometimes a bit of common sense goes a long way.
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 25 December 2018, 14:56:46
The common sense goes both ways though. $3/switch is getting close to pre-crash Panda prices. Nobody is going to pay that for a switch that comes up regularly for $.50 on MD.I wonder if this means MDs patent didn’t get approved. That’s the only way I see this making sense unless IC and MD are friends again (unlikely).Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Thanks for pointing that out. That's really weird then because I was under the impression that Kono Store could not sell them.
I wonder if something changed.
This has nothing to do with patents as far as I know. It was a contractual agreement between IC and MD that the switches developed by IC and financed by MD would be owned by MD.
That said, I think this link is an error. You can't find any mention of these switches on the Kono website.
Quite a few people in a qq group I’m in have ordered I think. Will see if they ship out. I’ve asked Andrew in IC discord and have not received an official answer yet
Didn't you say someone confirmed that it was a 10 pack of 10 switches? Who confirmed that? Someone from Kono?
Someone in a qq group. I’ve not verified but I’m trying to. Just a messenger here, don’t get agitated.
And I don’t think this is anything urgent, I’ve already got over 500 halo switches from massdrop and most people who need the halos already bought them. If anyone intends to buy from Kono, feel free to directly confirm with Kono about availability
I’m more interested in what’s going on than buying more halos.
I'm not getting agitated. I'm trying to get information.
I'll bet my left nut, literally, that it is not 10 packs of 10 switches for 30 bucks. I will cut it off and mail it to you, no joke. Just look at their 36 switch offerings for their hakos. That would mean 36 packs of 36 switches for whatever they're selling them for.
Sometimes a bit of common sense goes a long way.
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 25 December 2018, 15:10:40
Good point, I won't argue that. I think what might be the case is that kono has priced it as such so that people don't add it to their cart. Kind of like when you price something at $999999 because the page is a placeholder for when a product is ready. I'm more inclined to think this may be the case and that kono isn't actually selling halos because you can't find it on their switch page unless you have that specific url or use their search bar to search halo.The common sense goes both ways though. $3/switch is getting close to pre-crash Panda prices. Nobody is going to pay that for a switch that comes up regularly for $.50 on MD.I wonder if this means MDs patent didn’t get approved. That’s the only way I see this making sense unless IC and MD are friends again (unlikely).Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Thanks for pointing that out. That's really weird then because I was under the impression that Kono Store could not sell them.
I wonder if something changed.
This has nothing to do with patents as far as I know. It was a contractual agreement between IC and MD that the switches developed by IC and financed by MD would be owned by MD.
That said, I think this link is an error. You can't find any mention of these switches on the Kono website.
Quite a few people in a qq group I’m in have ordered I think. Will see if they ship out. I’ve asked Andrew in IC discord and have not received an official answer yet
Didn't you say someone confirmed that it was a 10 pack of 10 switches? Who confirmed that? Someone from Kono?
Someone in a qq group. I’ve not verified but I’m trying to. Just a messenger here, don’t get agitated.
And I don’t think this is anything urgent, I’ve already got over 500 halo switches from massdrop and most people who need the halos already bought them. If anyone intends to buy from Kono, feel free to directly confirm with Kono about availability
I’m more interested in what’s going on than buying more halos.
I'm not getting agitated. I'm trying to get information.
I'll bet my left nut, literally, that it is not 10 packs of 10 switches for 30 bucks. I will cut it off and mail it to you, no joke. Just look at their 36 switch offerings for their hakos. That would mean 36 packs of 36 switches for whatever they're selling them for.
Sometimes a bit of common sense goes a long way.
Post by: Luciqueii on Tue, 25 December 2018, 15:13:55
holy gsus!!!!
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Can you provide sound and video? Looks clean ;)
Post by: otanishock on Tue, 25 December 2018, 16:40:24
Post by: SuperVan on Tue, 25 December 2018, 17:08:05
Post by: MonsterZero on Tue, 25 December 2018, 17:31:43
Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
is Kono a US based store? do they ship worldwide? if so how much are the shipping costs usually?
(sorry for off-top but i really need to know)
edit: nevermind there's a shipping calc on their site lol
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 25 December 2018, 18:49:29
Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Isn’t that $3 per switch? $29.99 for a 10 pack.
(https://i.imgur.com/4KKhOk1.png)
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 25 December 2018, 18:53:26
Halo now selling for 0.3 per pcs on Kono store ....
Dang it
Are you talking about the Hako Trues?
Kono does not (and cannot) sell Halo Trues.
Hako and Halo are completely different switches.
https://kono.store/products/halo-true-mechanical-keyboard-switches
Isn’t that $3 per switch? $29.99 for a 10 pack.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4KKhOk1.png)
Looks like Kono updates the listing to clarify its 10 switches. No go then
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 25 December 2018, 19:12:34
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 25 December 2018, 20:19:39
I get to keep my left nut.
Can I have your right?
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 25 December 2018, 20:31:31
Traded it for an etf :(I get to keep my left nut.
Can I have your right?
Post by: scoopbb on Wed, 26 December 2018, 01:32:49
Post by: RamenTechMech on Wed, 26 December 2018, 01:36:05
got tracking info dec 22. sf express still says no information about waybill. possible the number was input wrong?It takes a couple of days to see movement once you receive your tracking number. Just wait a couple more days, it shouldn't take more than a week till you see movement.
Post by: scoopbb on Wed, 26 December 2018, 01:41:43
It takes a couple of days to see movement once you receive your tracking number. Just wait a couple more days, it shouldn't take more than a week till you see movement.
alright thanks.
Post by: asphyxia on Wed, 26 December 2018, 23:00:53
Post by: portbaron on Thu, 27 December 2018, 15:40:38
Post by: Mcnos on Thu, 27 December 2018, 15:47:27
They in
Where are you at?
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 27 December 2018, 15:49:56
They in
Wow this is like 400 pcs?
Post by: portbaron on Thu, 27 December 2018, 16:04:09
LAThey in
Where are you at?
560 I think. Don't have that many boards planned, but just in case.
Post by: RamenTechMech on Thu, 27 December 2018, 16:07:38
OMG lol, well he is well stocked now :)LAThey in
Where are you at?
560 I think. Don't have that many boards planned, but just in case.
Post by: donkey on Thu, 27 December 2018, 16:59:10
Post by: Mcnos on Thu, 27 December 2018, 18:00:59
Post by: distracteddev on Fri, 28 December 2018, 01:26:03
Post by: senryo on Fri, 28 December 2018, 03:24:29
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Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 28 December 2018, 03:34:49
SF Express always cucks me, they don't like shipping to me. It's always a 2 week minimum lol.
Don't worry, it could always be worse. My TGR910 came via SF Express, arrived in the UK after 4 days and then tracking stopped, was declared missing for a month and then it just arrived one day, tracking still says it's in the UK.
Post by: 1Weeb on Fri, 28 December 2018, 04:20:17
Post by: xoxox1029 on Fri, 28 December 2018, 04:33:40
Post by: Ashardalon on Fri, 28 December 2018, 19:10:34
Quote
22:39:08 Customer hasn't pay off related fees. We will follow up.
Hey SuperVan, received this notification not long ago. Hopefully you can quickly resolve this and have it sent out before the new year!
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Fri, 28 December 2018, 21:57:57
Quote22:39:08 Customer hasn't pay off related fees. We will follow up.
Hey SuperVan, received this notification not long ago. Hopefully you can quickly resolve this and have it sent out before the new year!
I got the same message.
Post by: scoopbb on Fri, 28 December 2018, 23:15:56
Quote22:39:08 Customer hasn't pay off related fees. We will follow up.
Hey SuperVan, received this notification not long ago. Hopefully you can quickly resolve this and have it sent out before the new year!
I got the same message.
in the same boat
Post by: 1Weeb on Sat, 29 December 2018, 02:13:54
Quote22:39:08 Customer hasn't pay off related fees. We will follow up.
Hey SuperVan, received this notification not long ago. Hopefully you can quickly resolve this and have it sent out before the new year!
I got the same message.
in the same boat
same here
Post by: SleepIsAllINeed on Sat, 29 December 2018, 19:04:45
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Sun, 30 December 2018, 00:16:52
Post by: bard on Sun, 30 December 2018, 04:14:31
Post by: vegs on Sun, 30 December 2018, 05:09:24
Post by: clik_clak on Sun, 30 December 2018, 09:09:33
For what it's worth, my tracking has been updating the last few days. I found my tracking number on PayPal.
Where are you guys finding your tracking numbers on PP? I got an email when the package shipped, but going to look at the transaction details, it just says shipped with no additional tracking info.
My SF tracking I got in my PP email hasn't updated since Christmas day and I figured the package should be in the US now but no updated info.
Post by: scoopbb on Sun, 30 December 2018, 11:27:55
For what it's worth, my tracking has been updating the last few days. I found my tracking number on PayPal.
Where are you guys finding your tracking numbers on PP? I got an email when the package shipped, but going to look at the transaction details, it just says shipped with no additional tracking info.
My SF tracking I got in my PP email hasn't updated since Christmas day and I figured the package should be in the US now but no updated info.
the email that came from paypal had the tracking info. most of ours updated it seems. just all stuck at the same point.
Post by: schoolbus on Sun, 30 December 2018, 11:49:47
Hell it might get delivered and still not update.
Post by: clik_clak on Sun, 30 December 2018, 11:59:03
For what it's worth, my tracking has been updating the last few days. I found my tracking number on PayPal.
Where are you guys finding your tracking numbers on PP? I got an email when the package shipped, but going to look at the transaction details, it just says shipped with no additional tracking info.
My SF tracking I got in my PP email hasn't updated since Christmas day and I figured the package should be in the US now but no updated info.
the email that came from paypal had the tracking info. most of ours updated it seems. just all stuck at the same point.
What point is everyone stuck at? Mine has been waiting to be put on a plane to USA since Christmas day. One of the other carriers usually pick them up from that point, but my tracking isn't working on any other site.
Post by: scoopbb on Sun, 30 December 2018, 12:03:11
For what it's worth, my tracking has been updating the last few days. I found my tracking number on PayPal.
Where are you guys finding your tracking numbers on PP? I got an email when the package shipped, but going to look at the transaction details, it just says shipped with no additional tracking info.
My SF tracking I got in my PP email hasn't updated since Christmas day and I figured the package should be in the US now but no updated info.
the email that came from paypal had the tracking info. most of ours updated it seems. just all stuck at the same point.
What point is everyone stuck at? Mine has been waiting to be put on a plane to USA since Christmas day. One of the other carriers usually pick them up from that point, but my tracking isn't working on any other site.
mine has gone from chanchun lixin, chanchun changqing, beijing air distro, beijing capital distro, beijing tongzhou now says "customer hasn't pay off related fees. will follow up" and has said that since the 28th.
Post by: donkey on Sun, 30 December 2018, 14:55:33
Post by: Mcnos on Sun, 30 December 2018, 15:01:15
Post by: scoopbb on Sun, 30 December 2018, 15:50:59
sfexpress is bad.
ive purchased plenty of things that have gone through sf express and really never had issues
Post by: ihalatch on Sun, 30 December 2018, 20:32:02
Post by: otanishock on Sun, 30 December 2018, 22:18:31
This is what I get after trying to track my parcel: "Customer hasn't pay off related fees. We will follow up."???Same. Me too.
Post by: neoCobweb on Sun, 30 December 2018, 22:24:18
Mine had this for a couple of days and just today it has continued to ship. I'm sure itll fix itself for everyone soonThis is what I get after trying to track my parcel: "Customer hasn't pay off related fees. We will follow up."???Same. Me too.
Post by: scoopbb on Mon, 31 December 2018, 02:52:47
Post by: donkey on Mon, 31 December 2018, 10:03:13
Post by: Little4Real on Mon, 31 December 2018, 14:36:59
Location matters but I think JCE is far better than SF Express. PCB I ordered from KBDfans on 27th and shipped from Changzhou, landed in LA yesterday and is now being trucked from San Jose just 30min from where I live. Same $15 shipping.
JCEX is always better. Everytime I use KBDFans, it take 3-4 days from the moment I pay to receive it and I'm in Ohio. I got my tracking on the 19th and I haven't received an update since it got to the distribution center to be shipped to the USA and that was the 25th
Post by: SaiZn on Tue, 01 January 2019, 00:09:58
Location matters but I think JCE is far better than SF Express. PCB I ordered from KBDfans on 27th and shipped from Changzhou, landed in LA yesterday and is now being trucked from San Jose just 30min from where I live. Same $15 shipping.
JCEX is always better. Everytime I use KBDFans, it take 3-4 days from the moment I pay to receive it and I'm in Ohio. I got my tracking on the 19th and I haven't received an update since it got to the distribution center to be shipped to the USA and that was the 25th
Same here. I got my tracking on the 16th and there haven't been any updates since it was loaded at Hong Kong Tsing Yi Distribution Center on the 25th. JCEX is definitely better.
Post by: donkey on Tue, 01 January 2019, 01:21:25
Could you ping SF Express to find out what's going on?
Post by: lovetree on Tue, 01 January 2019, 05:33:52
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 01 January 2019, 16:40:22
@SuperVan, there seems to be a log jam in Hong Kong where many of us got our shipments seemingly stuck there.
Could you ping SF Express to find out what's going on?
Same.
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Tue, 01 January 2019, 18:57:21
@SuperVan, there seems to be a log jam in Hong Kong where many of us got our shipments seemingly stuck there.
Could you ping SF Express to find out what's going on?
This is international outgoing mail. I take it you've never had something stuck in customs?
Post by: DJSwayde on Tue, 01 January 2019, 19:24:13
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 01 January 2019, 22:32:40
Post by: scoopbb on Tue, 01 January 2019, 23:22:24
Post by: donkey on Wed, 02 January 2019, 00:42:26
This is international outgoing mail. I take it you've never had something stuck in customs?
Others have been stuck there for 7 days. Mine, 3 days. Are you suggesting I should shut up? What exactly is your problem with my raising a flag?
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 02 January 2019, 01:43:30
Might be stuck at customs, might be due to fees, could be a number of things.
Post by: ilouis_07 on Wed, 02 January 2019, 02:36:40
Post by: lasernasaur on Wed, 02 January 2019, 03:00:42
Post by: Lansky on Wed, 02 January 2019, 06:17:08
Pretty confusing tracking information. I'm guessing (and hoping) that the latest update is an error. :-X
Post by: rondg on Wed, 02 January 2019, 06:29:02
EDIT: Sorry, just noticed that it was already in Denmark then it went back to Hong Kong.
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Wed, 02 January 2019, 06:42:03
Others have been stuck there for 7 days. Mine, 3 days. Are you suggesting I should shut up? What exactly is your problem with my raising a flag?
My point is you guys need to chill out. Not only is it common for stuff to get stuck in customs --I've had this happen to epackets for 3 weeks from kbdfans before-- but even worse is that it is during the holidays.
Post by: donkey on Wed, 02 January 2019, 07:06:08
My point is you guys need to chill out. Not only is it common for stuff to get stuck in customs --I've had this happen to epackets for 3 weeks from kbdfans before-- but even worse is that it is during the holidays.
That's more helpful than the previous response. Thanks.
And my point is that actively pooling information and experience can make huge differences where just chilling, while convenient, is not helpful when faced with uncertainty or conflicting information. Where chilling helps more is in preventing false information from spreading.
Post by: DJSwayde on Wed, 02 January 2019, 08:28:11
My point is you guys need to chill out. Not only is it common for stuff to get stuck in customs --I've had this happen to epackets for 3 weeks from kbdfans before-- but even worse is that it is during the holidays.
That's more helpful than the previous response. Thanks.
And my point is that actively pooling information and experience can make huge differences where just chilling, while convenient, is not helpful when faced with uncertainty or conflicting information. Where chilling helps more is in preventing false information from spreading.
You also have to realize that the switches were sent internationally during peak holiday season. I'd be more shocked if the switches WEREN'T delayed.
Post by: Helldrop on Wed, 02 January 2019, 09:33:47
I live in South Korea very close to China. It's been almost a month, but no longer moves.
SF Express is amazing!
Post by: bard on Wed, 02 January 2019, 11:01:07
Post by: Little4Real on Wed, 02 January 2019, 12:16:38
mine is moving all the time across China :))
That's what mine did from the 19th to the 25th before tracking eventually came to a halt.
Post by: donkey on Wed, 02 January 2019, 12:18:15
Post by: Little4Real on Wed, 02 January 2019, 13:54:12
Post by: scoopbb on Wed, 02 January 2019, 14:09:08
Post by: Little4Real on Wed, 02 January 2019, 16:47:10
got a new update. eparcel registered. guessing it will show up in us customs sometime this week.
Just finally got that notification too. After a more than a week Jesus Christ
Post by: donkey on Wed, 02 January 2019, 16:50:53
got a new update. eparcel registered. guessing it will show up in us customs sometime this week.
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yeah, that's the latest update for me too, on 29th.
Post by: cdhoffmann on Wed, 02 January 2019, 19:36:12
got a new update. eparcel registered. guessing it will show up in us customs sometime this week.
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yeah, that's the latest update for me too, on 29th.
Get ready to wait some more, mine has been stuck on that step since Christmas lol...
Post by: schoolbus on Wed, 02 January 2019, 19:46:04
My point is you guys need to chill out. Not only is it common for stuff to get stuck in customs --I've had this happen to epackets for 3 weeks from kbdfans before-- but even worse is that it is during the holidays.
That's more helpful than the previous response. Thanks.
And my point is that actively pooling information and experience can make huge differences where just chilling, while convenient, is not helpful when faced with uncertainty or conflicting information. Where chilling helps more is in preventing false information from spreading.
I think the bigger point is that the product is out of SuperVan's hands, and nobody works for the parcel delivery service so nobody here can truly or definitively help you- only feed your speculation.
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 02 January 2019, 19:56:24
got a new update. eparcel registered. guessing it will show up in us customs sometime this week.
(Attachment Link)
yeah, that's the latest update for me too, on 29th.
Get ready to wait some more, mine has been stuck on that step since Christmas lol...
Damn all my packages are stuck!
Post by: Fatboychard on Wed, 02 January 2019, 22:01:18
SA: GMK:
Enjoy!
Post by: Boy_314 on Wed, 02 January 2019, 22:29:56
Polycarbonate SINGA Typing tests
SA: GMK:
Enjoy!
crisp :thumb:
Post by: cdhoffmann on Wed, 02 January 2019, 22:31:10
Polycarbonate SINGA Typing tests
SA: GMK:
Enjoy!
Wait, you already got yours?
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Wed, 02 January 2019, 22:50:58
Polycarbonate SINGA Typing tests
What springs are you using? The ones that come with GSUS by default? Or do you recommend different springs, like from switchmod or spirit springs (though I don't like supporting scammers). My favorite weight is 78g, which I've extracted from the latest Zealios v1, but I've heard that anything higher than 67g "ruins" holy pandas.
I just want to know the best springs for these pricey little frankenstein switches.
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 03 January 2019, 00:02:14
On the day of transaction, MassDrop just said there was an error with my PayPal transaction - which has been working fine for me for all the purchases in between all these time.
And they just cancelled my order in this drop.
What is going on with these guys at MD......
Post by: Ashardalon on Thu, 03 January 2019, 00:26:45
I joint MassDrop for the Holy Panda but missed this GB.
On the day of transaction, MassDrop just said there was an error with my PayPal transaction - which has been working fine for me for all the purchases in between all these time.
And they just cancelled my order in this drop.
What is going on with these guys at MD......
I'd send an e-mail to their support to let them know what's going on and have them put in an order for you manually due to the error that occurred. They've been really accommodating with one of my issues recently so hopefully they are for yours too.
Post by: asphyxia on Thu, 03 January 2019, 09:07:06
Inwood is in NY.. and I'm from OR.. not sure what agent means, might be a proxy, but I can't wait to get my gsus!
Post by: clik_clak on Thu, 03 January 2019, 10:33:05
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/uffTugW.png)
Inwood is in NY.. and I'm from OR.. not sure what agent means, might be a proxy, but I can't wait to get my gsus!
Yours looks like its stuck where the rest of ours is...12/25 and transiting to next station.
Post by: asphyxia on Thu, 03 January 2019, 15:13:59
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/uffTugW.png)
Inwood is in NY.. and I'm from OR.. not sure what agent means, might be a proxy, but I can't wait to get my gsus!
Yours looks like its stuck where the rest of ours is...12/25 and transiting to next station.
? It says its in, inwood.
Last update was 12/31 though.
Post by: Rumai on Thu, 03 January 2019, 15:25:44
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/uffTugW.png)
Inwood is in NY.. and I'm from OR.. not sure what agent means, might be a proxy, but I can't wait to get my gsus!
Yours looks like its stuck where the rest of ours is...12/25 and transiting to next station.
? It says its in, inwood.
Last update was 12/31 though.
By that logic, it was also "in" Inwood on the 29th, and then back in Shenzhen less than an hour later :p
Post by: asphyxia on Thu, 03 January 2019, 15:53:47
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/uffTugW.png)
Inwood is in NY.. and I'm from OR.. not sure what agent means, might be a proxy, but I can't wait to get my gsus!
Yours looks like its stuck where the rest of ours is...12/25 and transiting to next station.
? It says its in, inwood.
Last update was 12/31 though.
By that logic, it was also "in" Inwood on the 29th, and then back in Shenzhen less than an hour later :p
oh what the... , do you have an eagle eye i didn't even see that
as i was typing this, i got an update.. I think? tracking seems scuffed
LAX seems to be California, so maybe my tacking is messed up and it should be here pretty soon 1-4 days~
(https://i.imgur.com/CKTkqoG.png)
Post by: scoopbb on Thu, 03 January 2019, 16:20:10
Post by: Little4Real on Fri, 04 January 2019, 01:20:15
ive had SF express do that on a previous package. never figured out exactly what was going on but i ended up getting it at some point lol.
I know one thing, I'll never use SF Express again
Post by: shensmobile on Fri, 04 January 2019, 01:32:06
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 04 January 2019, 02:40:05
I joint MassDrop for the Holy Panda but missed this GB.
On the day of transaction, MassDrop just said there was an error with my PayPal transaction - which has been working fine for me for all the purchases in between all these time.
And they just cancelled my order in this drop.
What is going on with these guys at MD......
I'd send an e-mail to their support to let them know what's going on and have them put in an order for you manually due to the error that occurred. They've been really accommodating with one of my issues recently so hopefully they are for yours too.
They replied saying that's already too late, just asked me to check e-mail spam filter next time so that I may be able to respond within 24 hours if something like that happens...
Post by: RETURNISO on Fri, 04 January 2019, 03:00:02
SuperVan, on Reddit you said there might be a chance that after the GB orders are shipped out, you’ll sell the remaining switches. Is that still the case? :)
+1
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 04 January 2019, 08:11:18
SuperVan, on Reddit you said there might be a chance that after the GB orders are shipped out, you’ll sell the remaining switches. Is that still the case? :)
+1
+1
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 04 January 2019, 11:48:27
Post by: clik_clak on Fri, 04 January 2019, 12:15:33
somehow my most recent SF express package uses USPS within US
I checked my USPS informed delivery page and lo and behold, I have a package coming from SF Express via USPS that apparently has been sitting in NY since Dec. 23rd. I'm not 100% positive that's my GSUS order, but I can't remember having anything else coming via SF that I ordered in the last month or so.
Post by: scoopbb on Fri, 04 January 2019, 12:29:06
Post by: tunadesu on Fri, 04 January 2019, 12:43:19
how did you actually check. did you put the sf express tracking number into the usps site?
Yeah I think SF uses a waybill just like DHL. The waybill (tracking)# should pop up in USPS tracking system when it reaches our shores.
Post by: clik_clak on Fri, 04 January 2019, 12:44:17
how did you actually check. did you put the sf express tracking number into the usps site?
Nope, I just went to my informed delivery page and looked through packages I have coming to me.
I never noticed it before because it was about 10 packages down on the list and hadn't been updated since Dec 23
Post by: YiZZo on Fri, 04 January 2019, 14:00:55
INWOOD,NY 11096"
Maybe it's in NY still? I live in CA, may its enroute?
Post by: clik_clak on Fri, 04 January 2019, 14:05:18
I just looked up my USPS Informed Delivery page as well and there is an item from SF Express. Last update was December 26 that says, "Picked Up by Shipping Partner, USPS Awaiting Item
INWOOD,NY 11096"
Maybe it's in NY still? I live in CA, may its enroute?
Mine says the same thing, just a few days earlier.
My guess is they're stuck in customs and they're playing catch up from the holiday season...At least that's what I'm hoping that's what's happening.
Post by: PoochZag on Fri, 04 January 2019, 16:50:42
Post by: DukeEsquire on Fri, 04 January 2019, 18:07:39
I'm in the same boat as everyone else it seems: no movement since late December.
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Fri, 04 January 2019, 18:18:48
Post by: bard on Fri, 04 January 2019, 18:29:18
Post by: scoopbb on Fri, 04 January 2019, 18:37:25
Post by: SaiZn on Fri, 04 January 2019, 23:07:58
Quote
January 4, 2019, 10:46 am
Arrived Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
ELIZABETHPORT, NJ 07206
Your item arrived at a shipping partner facility at 10:46 am on January 4, 2019 in ELIZABETHPORT, NJ 07206. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date.
Post by: RamenTechMech on Fri, 04 January 2019, 23:56:42
My switches have finally moved from Hong Kong.QuoteJanuary 4, 2019, 10:46 am
Arrived Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
ELIZABETHPORT, NJ 07206
Your item arrived at a shipping partner facility at 10:46 am on January 4, 2019 in ELIZABETHPORT, NJ 07206. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date.
Oof lucky! Many of ours are still in Hong Kong Tsing Yi Distribution Center haha
Hope ours moves on pretty soon :D
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Sat, 05 January 2019, 09:56:35
Post by: clik_clak on Sat, 05 January 2019, 10:16:10
Why does my tracking say Changchun to Los Angeles when I live in NY?
Because LA is an import city and the most logical place for it to stop to go through customs...
My shipping finally updated as well and it looks like my switches are in customs in the US right now.
Post by: Mcnos on Sat, 05 January 2019, 14:03:56
Why does my tracking say Changchun to Los Angeles when I live in NY?
Because LA is an import city and the most logical place for it to stop to go through customs...
My shipping finally updated as well and it looks like my switches are in customs in the US right now.
I'm just hoping to get mine before I get to the new apartment.
Post by: W00gala on Sat, 05 January 2019, 21:09:14
Why does my tracking say Changchun to Los Angeles when I live in NY?
Because LA is an import city and the most logical place for it to stop to go through customs...
My shipping finally updated as well and it looks like my switches are in customs in the US right now.
I'm just hoping to get mine before I get to the new apartment.
I was hoping to get mine before you move into your new apartment too.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 05 January 2019, 23:17:37
[attachimg=1]
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 06 January 2019, 00:38:03
Post by: donkey on Sun, 06 January 2019, 16:30:33
[attachimg=1]
Post by: JubJubCity on Mon, 07 January 2019, 15:58:28
Finally started moving again although it's not clear whether the 'US crossboarder sub contractor A' is in US or at some other location.I would suggest calling SF express, i just called them and they informed me my package is being delivered to the wrong address and state. I live in CA and its going to NJ.
(Attachment Link)
Post by: Little4Real on Mon, 07 January 2019, 18:18:56
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Mon, 07 January 2019, 19:34:03
Hey Supervan, if anyone else buy in the future, can you consider using JCEX or EMS for tracking?
I would definitely prefer EMS, even if it costs me a bit extra. With a name like sf-express you would expect it to be a bit faster.
Post by: SuperVan on Mon, 07 January 2019, 21:27:42
I've been back to China for few days. And I have something to deal with.
I will back to GH this week. Don't worry if something wrong with your shipment information. I'd like to solve your problem.
Post by: Boy_314 on Mon, 07 January 2019, 23:35:02
Post by: clik_clak on Mon, 07 January 2019, 23:57:24
my switches arrived, sf express says they were at the Hong Kong Tsing Yi Distribution Center since new years eve, and suddenly it arrived in my mailbox.
Where do you live?
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Tue, 08 January 2019, 00:05:22
my switches arrived, sf express says they were at the Hong Kong Tsing Yi Distribution Center since new years eve, and suddenly it arrived in my mailbox.
That's awesome! Here's hoping for the same. This E7-V1 is ready for it. Holtites installed and all.
Post by: donkey on Tue, 08 January 2019, 00:08:22
my switches arrived, sf express says they were at the Hong Kong Tsing Yi Distribution Center since new years eve, and suddenly it arrived in my mailbox.
That's great. SF Express say mine is still in 'US custom contractor A' while 17 track say it's been moved from Elizabeth to Greenwood. Confusing as heck.
Update: Just found a SF Express's help wanted page on Glassdoor for jobs in Elizabeth, NJ so looks like it's already in the US, albeit on the wrong coast.
Post by: Little4Real on Tue, 08 January 2019, 09:00:05
my switches arrived, sf express says they were at the Hong Kong Tsing Yi Distribution Center since new years eve, and suddenly it arrived in my mailbox.
Mine said they were at the distribution center since the 24th and still haven't arrived
Post by: limepie on Tue, 08 January 2019, 13:38:34
Update: Guess its coming tomorrow :'(
Update 2: They are finally here. :)
Post by: mrpetrov on Tue, 08 January 2019, 15:28:50
Post by: donkey on Wed, 09 January 2019, 02:51:06
[attachimg=1]
My shipment is indeed in US which means US cross border blah blah is almost certainly Elizabeth, NJ.
Greenwood, as reported by 17track is in Indiana. Not sure why it's being handed over to USPS mid-country but hey, I'm glad it's on the other side of the Rockies.
Post by: rondg on Wed, 09 January 2019, 04:51:05
Rejoice! Shroud of mystery evaporated just now:
(Attachment Link)
My shipment is indeed in US which means US cross border blah blah is almost certainly Elizabeth, NJ.
Greenwood, as reported by 17track is in Indiana. Not sure why it's being handed over to USPS mid-country but hey, I'm glad it's on the other side of the Rockies.
Same here! Woohoo! ;D
Post by: Little4Real on Wed, 09 January 2019, 09:44:44
Post by: spyruf on Wed, 09 January 2019, 10:37:25
Post by: Xynerorias on Wed, 09 January 2019, 10:46:18
No but for real though, is this normal ? I don't really care about the delay I just want my switches.
Post by: Helldrop on Wed, 09 January 2019, 10:58:37
Now it seems to be on the way to hell. SF means “Super Fast”, doesn’t it?
Post by: scoopbb on Wed, 09 January 2019, 11:26:50
Post by: clik_clak on Wed, 09 January 2019, 14:41:55
Post by: cemoon on Wed, 09 January 2019, 14:51:34
SF picked up my package on 12/23 (2 weeks now). Poor me!
Post by: asphyxia on Wed, 09 January 2019, 15:20:29
(https://i.imgur.com/fNFXrKu.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/eFLfPi1.png)
Post by: Poblopuablo on Wed, 09 January 2019, 15:27:56
I'm in MN and in the upper 200's in invoices. Just trying to get an idea of ETA :)
Post by: smoian on Wed, 09 January 2019, 15:35:27
Post by: tunadesu on Wed, 09 January 2019, 15:40:56
To those who recieved them in the US, where about are you located? And what invoice were you?
I'm in MN and in the upper 200's in invoices. Just trying to get an idea of ETA :)
I live in MA and mine just showed up! I was invoice #237
Post by: kakiharaOne on Wed, 09 January 2019, 15:53:50
To those who recieved them in the US, where about are you located? And what invoice were you?
I'm in MN and in the upper 200's in invoices. Just trying to get an idea of ETA :)
I’m in TX and they’re in Dallas right now so should have them this week or next. Invoice was in the 300’s.
Post by: clik_clak on Wed, 09 January 2019, 15:54:14
To those who recieved them in the US, where about are you located? And what invoice were you?
I'm in MN and in the upper 200's in invoices. Just trying to get an idea of ETA :)
Invoice 211 and in UT.
Post by: RamenTechMech on Wed, 09 January 2019, 15:54:37
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 09 January 2019, 16:48:28
Oh my, I have been using SF Express tracking page and that shows very limited information, I look up my tracking # on 17Track (I just found out about it today) and it's waaayyyy more detailed. I'm gald it's about to reach USPS :cool:
Mines in a city north of me, super close.
Post by: Poblopuablo on Wed, 09 January 2019, 16:53:59
Oh my, I have been using SF Express tracking page and that shows very limited information, I look up my tracking # on 17Track (I just found out about it today) and it's waaayyyy more detailed. I'm gald it's about to reach USPS :cool:
Thanks for the source. Mine was last in IN. So a couple states away. Maybe it'll be here by Friday. :)
Post by: rondg on Wed, 09 January 2019, 17:13:43
Post by: donkey on Wed, 09 January 2019, 18:15:01
A question for everyone: Do you plan to use your GSUS with switches other than Halos?
I'll be using some to make Clear-minded Gsus since Ergo Clear is my thing.
Post by: CtrlAlt on Wed, 09 January 2019, 18:17:05
(https://imgur.com/a/5h7lCiv)
Post by: nulltorious on Wed, 09 January 2019, 18:30:08
Why does mine say its in sweden when im in manila what the heck?! :/Show Image(https://imgur.com/a/5h7lCiv)
Same here... I live in Bangkok and switches are in Sweden now?!
Post by: feralfoo on Wed, 09 January 2019, 20:17:34
Same here... I live in Bangkok and switches are in Sweden now?!
Yeah somethings not right. I live in Australia, but currently tracking says its in the NETHERLANDS ?!?
Post by: asphyxia on Wed, 09 January 2019, 21:25:31
(https://i.imgur.com/puvq1cO.png)
Post by: SaiZn on Wed, 09 January 2019, 21:26:39
To those who recieved them in the US, where about are you located? And what invoice were you?
I'm in MN and in the upper 200's in invoices. Just trying to get an idea of ETA :)
Invoice number makes no difference. I'm invoice #6 and in WA and I'm still waiting. My switches left Greenwood 2 days ago.
Post by: RamenTechMech on Wed, 09 January 2019, 21:48:03
My invoice is in the mid 300's and mine left Greenwood as well :eek:To those who recieved them in the US, where about are you located? And what invoice were you?
I'm in MN and in the upper 200's in invoices. Just trying to get an idea of ETA :)
Invoice number makes no difference. I'm invoice #6 and in WA and I'm still waiting. My switches left Greenwood 2 days ago.
Post by: mwahlig on Wed, 09 January 2019, 22:23:46
Post by: donkey on Wed, 09 January 2019, 22:57:30
Mine said it made it to New York and now its back in China...Anyone else experience this?
Yup. That's just noise.
Post by: spooknik on Wed, 09 January 2019, 23:50:48
Same here... I live in Bangkok and switches are in Sweden now?!
Yeah somethings not right. I live in Australia, but currently tracking says its in the NETHERLANDS ?!?
SFexpress gets picked up by PostNL when it enters Europe. I assume it's cheaper this way? Seems sorta counter-intuitive though.
Post by: vegs on Thu, 10 January 2019, 00:35:06
Progress!!
Post by: Lansky on Thu, 10 January 2019, 03:17:07
Post by: spooknik on Thu, 10 January 2019, 06:26:24
According to 17track my package is in Copenhagen now and arrived at the PostNL sorting center. Hopefully it'll get here soon. I'm still not sure if I can trust the tracking, though. Seems pretty shady. :-\
Similar story here. Mine doesn't say say Copenhagen though, it just says 'Denmark, Denmark'. :(
Post by: razor_blade on Thu, 10 January 2019, 08:15:20
According to 17track my package is in Copenhagen now and arrived at the PostNL sorting center. Hopefully it'll get here soon. I'm still not sure if I can trust the tracking, though. Seems pretty shady. :-\
Thank you, 17track worked great! Mine is out for delivery today!
Post by: liv05 on Thu, 10 January 2019, 09:58:35
https://intl.sf-express.com/query/toOrderQuery.do
Anyone who needs correct postnl tracking number try this page.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: spooknik on Thu, 10 January 2019, 10:33:26
I’m in Japan and my package also went to Europe..
https://intl.sf-express.com/query/toOrderQuery.do
Anyone who needs correct postnl tracking number try this page.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Hey that worked for me, thanks! I got a tracking number for Denmark's regular post. Seems like mine is still a few days out.
Post by: cemoon on Thu, 10 January 2019, 14:40:47
PS: Where the heck is Elizabeth?
Package status: In transit
Destination: United States
Origin: China
2019-01-10 06:51 Elizabeth, 【Elizabeth】 Arrived at the local distribution center
2019-01-05 14:14 Hong Kong, 【Hong Kong】 Shipment transiting to next station
2019-01-02 12:07 Hong Kong, 【Hong Kong】 Shipment arrive at Hong Kong distribution center
2019-01-02 01:48 Shenzhen, 【Shenzhen】 Shipment transiting to next station
2019-01-01 02:42 CHINA, 【CHINA】 Shipment ready for leaving the warehouse.
2019-01-01 01:29 Shenzhen, 【Shenzhen】 Shipment arrive at Shenzhen distribution center
2019-01-01 00:04 Shenzhen, 【Shenzhen】 Shipment transiting to next station
2018-12-31 23:05 Inwood, 【Inwood】 Collect by Agent
2018-12-31 21:29 Shenzhen, 【Shenzhen】 Shipment arrive at Shenzhen distribution center
2018-12-31 17:05 United States, 【United States】Picked Up by Shipping Partner, USPS Awaiting Item -> Your item was picked up by a shipping partner at 5:05 pm on December 31, 2018 in INWOOD, NY 11096. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date.
2018-12-31 16:41 Dongguan, 【Dongguan】 Shipment transiting to next station
2018-12-31 15:37 CHINA, 【CHINA】 Shipment arrive at the warehouse.
2018-12-31 15:13 Dongguan, 【Dongguan】 Shipment arrive at Dongguan distribution center
2018-12-29 05:12 Beijing, 【Beijing】 Shipment transiting to next station
2018-12-28 21:26 CHINA, 【CHINA】 Shipment arrive at the warehouse.
2018-12-28 07:40 Beijing, 【Beijing】 Shipment arrive at Beijing distribution center
2018-12-27 10:30 Beijing, 【Beijing】 Shipment arrive at Beijing distribution center
2018-12-27 10:30 Beijing, 【Beijing】 Shipment transiting to next station
2018-12-27 03:17 Changchun, 【Changchun】 Shipment transiting to next station
2018-12-26 19:02 Changchun, 【Changchun】 S.F. Express has picked up the shipment
2018-12-23 06:12 Order information saved.
======================================
Powered by www.17track.net
Post by: rondg on Thu, 10 January 2019, 15:00:25
This is what I got so far in 18 days.
PS: Where the heck is Elizabeth?
Package status: In transit
Destination: United States
Origin: China
2019-01-10 06:51 Elizabeth, 【Elizabeth】 Arrived at the local distribution center
2019-01-05 14:14 Hong Kong, 【Hong Kong】 Shipment transiting to next station
2019-01-02 12:07 Hong Kong, 【Hong Kong】 Shipment arrive at Hong Kong distribution center
2019-01-02 01:48 Shenzhen, 【Shenzhen】 Shipment transiting to next station
2019-01-01 02:42 CHINA, 【CHINA】 Shipment ready for leaving the warehouse.
2019-01-01 01:29 Shenzhen, 【Shenzhen】 Shipment arrive at Shenzhen distribution center
2019-01-01 00:04 Shenzhen, 【Shenzhen】 Shipment transiting to next station
2018-12-31 23:05 Inwood, 【Inwood】 Collect by Agent
2018-12-31 21:29 Shenzhen, 【Shenzhen】 Shipment arrive at Shenzhen distribution center
2018-12-31 17:05 United States, 【United States】Picked Up by Shipping Partner, USPS Awaiting Item -> Your item was picked up by a shipping partner at 5:05 pm on December 31, 2018 in INWOOD, NY 11096. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date.
2018-12-31 16:41 Dongguan, 【Dongguan】 Shipment transiting to next station
2018-12-31 15:37 CHINA, 【CHINA】 Shipment arrive at the warehouse.
2018-12-31 15:13 Dongguan, 【Dongguan】 Shipment arrive at Dongguan distribution center
2018-12-29 05:12 Beijing, 【Beijing】 Shipment transiting to next station
2018-12-28 21:26 CHINA, 【CHINA】 Shipment arrive at the warehouse.
2018-12-28 07:40 Beijing, 【Beijing】 Shipment arrive at Beijing distribution center
2018-12-27 10:30 Beijing, 【Beijing】 Shipment arrive at Beijing distribution center
2018-12-27 10:30 Beijing, 【Beijing】 Shipment transiting to next station
2018-12-27 03:17 Changchun, 【Changchun】 Shipment transiting to next station
2018-12-26 19:02 Changchun, 【Changchun】 S.F. Express has picked up the shipment
2018-12-23 06:12 Order information saved.
======================================
Powered by www.17track.net
I think it's in New Jersey
Post by: Poblopuablo on Thu, 10 January 2019, 15:01:23
Post by: cemoon on Thu, 10 January 2019, 15:09:44
This is what I got so far in 18 days.
PS: Where the heck is Elizabeth?
Package status: In transit
Destination: United States
Origin: China
2019-01-10 06:51 Elizabeth, 【Elizabeth】 Arrived at the local distribution center
2019-01-05 14:14 Hong Kong, 【Hong Kong】 Shipment transiting to next station
2019-01-02 12:07 Hong Kong, 【Hong Kong】 Shipment arrive at Hong Kong distribution center
2019-01-02 01:48 Shenzhen, 【Shenzhen】 Shipment transiting to next station
2019-01-01 02:42 CHINA, 【CHINA】 Shipment ready for leaving the warehouse.
2019-01-01 01:29 Shenzhen, 【Shenzhen】 Shipment arrive at Shenzhen distribution center
2019-01-01 00:04 Shenzhen, 【Shenzhen】 Shipment transiting to next station
2018-12-31 23:05 Inwood, 【Inwood】 Collect by Agent
2018-12-31 21:29 Shenzhen, 【Shenzhen】 Shipment arrive at Shenzhen distribution center
2018-12-31 17:05 United States, 【United States】Picked Up by Shipping Partner, USPS Awaiting Item -> Your item was picked up by a shipping partner at 5:05 pm on December 31, 2018 in INWOOD, NY 11096. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date.
2018-12-31 16:41 Dongguan, 【Dongguan】 Shipment transiting to next station
2018-12-31 15:37 CHINA, 【CHINA】 Shipment arrive at the warehouse.
2018-12-31 15:13 Dongguan, 【Dongguan】 Shipment arrive at Dongguan distribution center
2018-12-29 05:12 Beijing, 【Beijing】 Shipment transiting to next station
2018-12-28 21:26 CHINA, 【CHINA】 Shipment arrive at the warehouse.
2018-12-28 07:40 Beijing, 【Beijing】 Shipment arrive at Beijing distribution center
2018-12-27 10:30 Beijing, 【Beijing】 Shipment arrive at Beijing distribution center
2018-12-27 10:30 Beijing, 【Beijing】 Shipment transiting to next station
2018-12-27 03:17 Changchun, 【Changchun】 Shipment transiting to next station
2018-12-26 19:02 Changchun, 【Changchun】 S.F. Express has picked up the shipment
2018-12-23 06:12 Order information saved.
======================================
Powered by www.17track.net
I think it's in New Jersey
Really? So it is near me (1h30 driving). The site never posted it departed from HongKong.
Post by: donkey on Thu, 10 January 2019, 16:09:50
1. Open browser to https://intl.sf-express.com/query/toOrderQuery.do
2. Get past the browser security warning (their SSL cert is likely outdated)
3. Enter the SF Express tracking number aka waybill number and get past the puzzle.
4. In the resulting page, one of the first few numbers shown will be your local carrier tracking number.
In my case, it was the long number in the second line and I had to guess carrier was USPS.
Now using that number at USPS tracking page (google USPS tracking) showed this:
Quote
On Its Way to USPS
January 9, 2019 at 2:35 pm
Arrived Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
SPARKS, NV 89441
Post by: RamenTechMech on Thu, 10 January 2019, 16:16:56
Just found out how to track the package locally using the URL mentioned above:
1. Open browser to https://intl.sf-express.com/query/toOrderQuery.do
2. Get past the browser security warning (their SSL cert is likely outdated)
3. Enter the SF Express tracking number aka waybill number and get past the puzzle.
4. In the resulting page, one of the first few numbers shown will be your local carrier tracking number.
In my case, it was the long number in the second line and I had to guess carrier was USPS.
Now using that number at USPS tracking page (google USPS tracking) showed this:QuoteOn Its Way to USPS
January 9, 2019 at 2:35 pm
Arrived Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
SPARKS, NV 89441
Thank you!!
Post by: kakiharaOne on Thu, 10 January 2019, 16:23:35
Post by: Master_Zebra on Thu, 10 January 2019, 16:33:55
Post by: rondg on Thu, 10 January 2019, 17:16:19
Just found out how to track the package locally using the URL mentioned above:
1. Open browser to https://intl.sf-express.com/query/toOrderQuery.do
2. Get past the browser security warning (their SSL cert is likely outdated)
3. Enter the SF Express tracking number aka waybill number and get past the puzzle.
4. In the resulting page, one of the first few numbers shown will be your local carrier tracking number.
In my case, it was the long number in the second line and I had to guess carrier was USPS.
Now using that number at USPS tracking page (google USPS tracking) showed this:QuoteOn Its Way to USPS
January 9, 2019 at 2:35 pm
Arrived Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
SPARKS, NV 89441
Nice! Thank you!
Post by: firezlife on Thu, 10 January 2019, 17:45:51
Post by: razor_blade on Thu, 10 January 2019, 19:37:17
Any chance that supporters of the first buy can pick up a few more? I need like 55 more than I bought, because I can't count my own switches. LOL
Post by: Justin_aka_OsP_SSJ4 on Thu, 10 January 2019, 20:37:21
Hopefully they live up to peoples expectations.
Post by: yaya on Thu, 10 January 2019, 22:27:43
I would recommend anyone in the US to sign up for USPS Informed Delivery. If anything gets handed off to them, it will show up there with tracking info automatically.
This.
Mine was in my email this morning and in my mailbox this afternoon.
Post by: highdrone on Fri, 11 January 2019, 06:49:52
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Post by: b3nkei on Fri, 11 January 2019, 11:00:28
Post by: RamenTechMech on Fri, 11 January 2019, 11:04:42
Hopefully I get mine next week :thumb:
Post by: Ashardalon on Fri, 11 January 2019, 12:51:33
Post by: kakiharaOne on Fri, 11 January 2019, 13:21:56
Big plans this weekend!
Post by: YiZZo on Fri, 11 January 2019, 15:57:21
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Post by: vonswoopington on Fri, 11 January 2019, 16:06:32
Post by: smoian on Sat, 12 January 2019, 00:07:54
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 12 January 2019, 00:58:46
my GSUS switches finally came in! Like other people who got theirs, it's going to be a busy weekend. :)
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I got both too, unfortunately the nutcracker doesn’t work well with panda at all. I’m very sad.
Post by: spooknik on Sat, 12 January 2019, 02:53:28
my GSUS switches finally came in! Like other people who got theirs, it's going to be a busy weekend. :)
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I got both too, unfortunately the nutcracker doesn’t work well with panda at all. I’m very sad.
How doesn't it work very well? Is it a size/spacing issue?
Post by: donkey on Sat, 12 January 2019, 06:02:40
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Guess I'm not going anywhere Saturday evening. :-)
Post by: kakiharaOne on Sat, 12 January 2019, 09:08:22
my GSUS switches finally came in! Like other people who got theirs, it's going to be a busy weekend. :)
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I got both too, unfortunately the nutcracker doesn’t work well with panda at all. I’m very sad.
How doesn't it work very well? Is it a size/spacing issue?
I don't have The Nutcracker but they're really tight and you have to apply more force (compared to other switches) to open them using the KiiBOSS. The Switchcracker (3D Printed) works better, surprisingly. I think b/c the edges are sharper. That's just my experience opening a few. I haven't done the lot yet.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 12 January 2019, 09:57:12
It's California's turn to get our Gsus.
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Guess I'm not going anywhere Saturday evening. :-)
Well, go on a date with Gsus :)
Post by: cemoon on Sat, 12 January 2019, 10:07:05
Post by: RamenTechMech on Sat, 12 January 2019, 13:51:12
It's California's turn to get our Gsus.
(Attachment Link)
Guess I'm not going anywhere Saturday evening. :-)
Ahhh!! Mine says out for delivery for today as well!! :eek: :p
Edit: NV btw :)
Post by: RamenTechMech on Sat, 12 January 2019, 19:32:02
Thanks!
Post by: clik_clak on Sat, 12 January 2019, 19:39:36
Hey guys! Got my switches today and was wondering what is the best lube that could be used for these switches.
Thanks!
Best is subjective....
Either 3204 or 205 would be my thoughts, I used 3204 on mine and can't complain.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 12 January 2019, 21:37:35
Hey guys! Got my switches today and was wondering what is the best lube that could be used for these switches.
Thanks!
Best is subjective....
Either 3204 or 205 would be my thoughts, I used 3204 on mine and can't complain.
Yeah, I use 3203, difference of the holy gsus between using 3203 and 3024 is quite marginal IMO.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 12 January 2019, 21:38:30
Mine came today (Philadelphia, PA).
I love Philadelphia. Great city, bro.
Post by: cemoon on Sat, 12 January 2019, 21:40:18
Where are you from?Mine came today (Philadelphia, PA).
I love Philadelphia. Great city, bro.
Post by: macclack on Sat, 12 January 2019, 21:51:56
Hey guys! Got my switches today and was wondering what is the best lube that could be used for these switches.
Thanks!
Topclack posted a video recreating Holy Pandas and Quakemz talks about the lube he originally used.
Personally I'm going to use a combination of Krytox 106 on the slider and a light touch of Krytox 205 on the spring. I like using a thicker lube on the spring because there's no chance of it settling to the bottom of the switch like a less viscous lube can and it totally neutralizes any spring noises.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 12 January 2019, 22:03:52
Where are you from?Mine came today (Philadelphia, PA).
I love Philadelphia. Great city, bro.
Go Eagles :)
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 12 January 2019, 22:05:08
Hey guys! Got my switches today and was wondering what is the best lube that could be used for these switches.
Thanks!
Topclack posted a video recreating Holy Pandas and Quakemz talks about the lube he originally used.
Personally I'm going to use a combination of Krytox 106 on the slider and a light touch of Krytox 205 on the spring. I like using a thicker lube on the spring because there's no chance of it settling to the bottom of the switch like a less viscous lube can and it totally neutralizes any spring noises.
Good point. I currently use 3203 on the slider and Krytox 105 on the spring. I should try other mods and see how they change the feelings.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 12 January 2019, 22:06:02
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Post by: donkey on Sat, 12 January 2019, 22:12:44
As observed in some of the review videos, Gsus housing fits slightly tighter than OG Panda housing, tight enough to turn opening with KiiOpener into an exercise. I hate to be applying same amount of force to install Gsus into polycarb plate. For now, I'll insert the switches into brass plate as-is then open the tops using switch opener from mechanicalkeyboards before stem swapping and lubing.
Post by: macclack on Sat, 12 January 2019, 22:15:28
Let the fun begin.
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You're not messing around.
Just got my order today as well. Just waiting for some Halos to arrive.
Post by: DillonHightower on Sun, 13 January 2019, 00:00:44
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Sun, 13 January 2019, 06:42:55
Gsus housing fits slightly tighter than OG Panda housing
I don't know how tight of a fit og pandas are, but these gsus are crazy tight. At least on my E7-V1 custom. After pushing it through the plate a few times it loosened up a bit and fits like a tight switch, but man were my thumbs in pain. I recommend using a cloth to push them through.
Otherwise these are solid switches. Got em all lubed up with trybosis 3203.
Post by: menuhin on Sun, 13 January 2019, 07:08:55
However, all I can find are some Holy Gsus videos, not just the performance and comparison between Gsus and Invyr Panda.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 13 January 2019, 13:07:31
Have been trying to look for some typing demo of the GSUS.
However, all I can find are some Holy Gsus videos, not just the performance and comparison between Gsus and Invyr Panda.
But no one really uses them as linear switches....
Post by: lbaron on Sun, 13 January 2019, 13:32:03
Gsus housing fits slightly tighter than OG Panda housing
I don't know how tight of a fit og pandas are, but these gsus are crazy tight. At least on my E7-V1 custom. After pushing it through the plate a few times it loosened up a bit and fits like a tight switch, but man were my thumbs in pain. I recommend using a cloth to push them through.
Otherwise these are solid switches. Got em all lubed up with trybosis 3203.
Same here. Pushed them into my k-type I was sure I was going to bend ever pin because it was so hard to get on the plate. Ended up putting a penny on top and pushing with all my might. Glad I’m not the only one having this problem.
Post by: clik_clak on Sun, 13 January 2019, 13:37:28
Gsus housing fits slightly tighter than OG Panda housing
I don't know how tight of a fit og pandas are, but these gsus are crazy tight. At least on my E7-V1 custom. After pushing it through the plate a few times it loosened up a bit and fits like a tight switch, but man were my thumbs in pain. I recommend using a cloth to push them through.
Otherwise these are solid switches. Got em all lubed up with trybosis 3203.
Same here. Pushed them into my k-type I was sure I was going to bend ever pin because it was so hard to get on the plate. Ended up putting a penny on top and pushing with all my might. Glad I’m not the only one having this problem.
Same thing for me. I wouldn't really call this a problem though. I'd rather have a tight switch than a loose one.
Post by: smoian on Sun, 13 January 2019, 13:48:59
Anyone else getting any type of response from supervan? I have messaged him a few different times with no response?
I’m in the same boat. It’s been about a week since I initially messaged him, but no responses so far.
Post by: cemoon on Sun, 13 January 2019, 17:19:32
Hey hey, Go Eagles.Where are you from?Mine came today (Philadelphia, PA).
I love Philadelphia. Great city, bro.
Go Eagles :)
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 14 January 2019, 02:50:55
Have been trying to look for some typing demo of the GSUS.
However, all I can find are some Holy Gsus videos, not just the performance and comparison between Gsus and Invyr Panda.
But no one really uses them as linear switches....
I followed the original Invyr Panda IC and GB closely but I saw that the design will probably fail as a good linear switch and therefore changed my mind and didn’t join...
Post by: kakiharaOne on Mon, 14 January 2019, 08:28:01
Let the fun begin.
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How does the Nutcracker compare to the KiiBOSS? Any preference?
Post by: JubJubCity on Mon, 14 January 2019, 11:48:42
Post by: Ashardalon on Mon, 14 January 2019, 12:43:32
Post by: Diskfix on Mon, 14 January 2019, 13:44:22
Post by: online on Mon, 14 January 2019, 18:39:56
what stem you guys gonna put in?
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 14 January 2019, 18:56:38
just received mine.
what stem you guys gonna put in?
razer purples
Post by: asphyxia on Mon, 14 January 2019, 22:02:40
Post by: otanishock on Tue, 15 January 2019, 09:16:52
Post by: Rumblehotep on Tue, 15 January 2019, 09:55:42
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 15 January 2019, 12:36:12
My tracking shows it was last updated on the 4th of January and its 15th as of today. So about 10 days went by without me hearing anything. Should I be concerned?
Yes
Post by: Diskfix on Tue, 15 January 2019, 13:37:05
Mine today appeared as Delivery failed and Being returned to the sender, i'm a Sad Panda now.
Plot twist: They arrived today!
Post by: itsundone on Tue, 15 January 2019, 20:43:57
and Im in South East Asia....
Told Supervan not to use SF, didnt listen.... :(
Post by: Jacob4341 on Tue, 15 January 2019, 21:46:35
Post by: ptiede on Tue, 15 January 2019, 22:17:39
Looking to buy 60-70 switches, pm if selling! :)Novelkeys is supposedly selling a red version of these now.
https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/frontpage/products/yok-red-pandas
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 15 January 2019, 22:21:34
damn mine is in SWEDEN now...
and Im in South East Asia....
Told Supervan not to use SF, didnt listen.... :(
I tell everyone not to use SF
Post by: ballinboyz on Tue, 15 January 2019, 22:53:26
damn mine is in SWEDEN now...
and Im in South East Asia....
Told Supervan not to use SF, didnt listen.... :(
I'm in Korea, and tracking indicates that mine too is in Sweden. I see comments on the previous page from people in Asia having similar situations as well..
Post by: nulltorious on Wed, 16 January 2019, 00:07:15
damn mine is in SWEDEN now...
and Im in South East Asia....
Told Supervan not to use SF, didnt listen.... :(
I received my switches on Monday. I live in Thailand and tracking info was saying package was in Sweden. I found if you use 17track with Postnord Sweden as the carrier I got faster tracking updates for some reason. In total it took about 3 weeks to receive the package.
Post by: ZyBeR on Wed, 16 January 2019, 01:12:02
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Wed, 16 January 2019, 01:17:30
If that's the issue then at least all the packages are on their way.
Post by: asphyxia on Wed, 16 January 2019, 01:28:24
fyi its 11:28pm right now and i didn't get my package, and it got updated to deliver by "friday" instead of today
(https://i.imgur.com/ezbGyWQ.png)
Post by: Helldrop on Wed, 16 January 2019, 01:45:48
I'm in South Korea located nearby China, but I didn't receive mine yet. It's been almost 6 weeks.
I can't believe its shipping fee was $15.
Post by: SuperVan on Wed, 16 January 2019, 08:04:49
I'm back now.
Plz allow me some time to solve your problems.
Post by: SuperVan on Wed, 16 January 2019, 08:05:56
(Attachment Link)Hi, there.
I'm in South Korea located nearby China, but I didn't receive mine yet. It's been almost 6 weeks.
I can't believe its shipping fee was $15.
Sorry for my late reply. I will contact SF tomorrow. I'm not sure what's wrong with your shipment.
Post by: SuperVan on Wed, 16 January 2019, 08:07:44
Sent PM regarding my missing order. Please respond when you can!Hi, there. I will check your shipment information right now. I will reply soon.
Post by: SuperVan on Wed, 16 January 2019, 08:10:58
damn mine is in SWEDEN now...I have no choice. I really wanna use EMS and contact them for several times. There was no reply. :(
and Im in South East Asia....
Told Supervan not to use SF, didnt listen.... :(
Post by: bard on Wed, 16 January 2019, 12:04:10
Post by: KaosJ on Wed, 16 January 2019, 14:02:32
no updates for my package since a week :(
Mine just travelled around the whole China, touched every city he could and later fly'd to my country, same no updates since a while. SF is kind of a joke tbh, it was always like that
Post by: asphyxia on Wed, 16 January 2019, 15:54:05
it seems that supervan might of wrote down your email as your actual address
If you still haven't gotten your package yet and if its in your town, go to your PO and give them the tracking number, they will look for it in the PO and hopefully you will get it, my package was not being delivered and when i went there i got it.
This might be the reason why so many packages are being strange right now, they might be stuck in china or somewhere else because of this.
I don't know how international shipping works or korea/sweden etc. and how they handle packages, but i'm very thankful they still sent it to my zip code PO
(https://i.imgur.com/wd3zrcv.png)
Post by: ItsAllen on Wed, 16 January 2019, 16:00:18
Okay, Discovered some troubling news :-X
it seems that supervan might of wrote down your email as your actual address
If you still haven't gotten your package yet and if its in your town, go to your PO and give them the tracking number, they will look for it in the PO and hopefully you will get it, my package was not being delivered and when i went there i got it.
This might be the reason why so many packages are being strange right now, they might be stuck in china or somewhere else because of this.
I don't know how international shipping works or korea/sweden etc. and how they handle packages, but i'm very thankful they still sent it to my zip code POShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/wd3zrcv.png)
Yikes.
Post by: romevi on Wed, 16 January 2019, 16:22:46
Okay, Discovered some troubling news :-X
it seems that supervan might of wrote down your email as your actual address
If you still haven't gotten your package yet and if its in your town, go to your PO and give them the tracking number, they will look for it in the PO and hopefully you will get it, my package was not being delivered and when i went there i got it.
This might be the reason why so many packages are being strange right now, they might be stuck in china or somewhere else because of this.
I don't know how international shipping works or korea/sweden etc. and how they handle packages, but i'm very thankful they still sent it to my zip code POShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/wd3zrcv.png)
lol WTF
You're not in Tokyo, JP!
Post by: janglad on Wed, 16 January 2019, 16:38:53
Okay, Discovered some troubling news :-X
it seems that supervan might of wrote down your email as your actual address
If you still haven't gotten your package yet and if its in your town, go to your PO and give them the tracking number, they will look for it in the PO and hopefully you will get it, my package was not being delivered and when i went there i got it.
This might be the reason why so many packages are being strange right now, they might be stuck in china or somewhere else because of this.
I don't know how international shipping works or korea/sweden etc. and how they handle packages, but i'm very thankful they still sent it to my zip code POShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/wd3zrcv.png)
What the hell, HOW???
Post by: asphyxia on Wed, 16 January 2019, 16:48:06
Quote
lol WTF
You're not in Tokyo, JP!
I have a house in tokyo and in the US, double PR
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 16 January 2019, 17:06:38
Mine arrived today, totally out of the blue, all the local tracking numbers were complete garbage and didn't show up anywhere.
Post by: glack23 on Wed, 16 January 2019, 19:29:31
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Post by: cucgach on Wed, 16 January 2019, 21:14:10
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Post by: scoopbb on Thu, 17 January 2019, 00:32:35
Post by: 1Weeb on Thu, 17 January 2019, 02:12:31
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 17 January 2019, 02:16:53
got mine today. did about 12 switches before baby started crying like a maniac. feels pretty good
Haha, can relate with cutting short on your own time cause kids.
Post by: dankdesire on Thu, 17 January 2019, 04:43:22
Finland, 【Finland】 Delivery failed.【 Reason:"
I haven't received anything.
I've tried the tracking services of my local post office, postnord, dhl and ups and none of them have any information with the tracking number.
Any idea what's going on :mad:
Edit: I sent my postoffice the picture that asphyxia sent in a previous message. They told me that it could be that I need the number used in the bigger barcode instead of the small sf express number
Post by: g_mr_p on Thu, 17 January 2019, 10:13:47
Post by: Mekuno on Thu, 17 January 2019, 12:13:58
This is actually probably the slowest shipping I have ever experienced for such a small sized item, this is an almost unacceptable lead time imo.
Post by: kennardsmith on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:32:12
Not sure if I should just continue to wait patiently or…who to contact even.
(https://imgur.com/C2l0LN2.jpg)
Post by: mwahlig on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:46:28
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:54:07
Not sure what is going on but with my tracking info it still shows it is in china, if that tracking map on their site is any indication. I have been patiently waiting for weeks like everyone here and unsure if I am even going to get the switches. I am from Canada. The way that it is travelling is it even going to my country?
This is actually probably the slowest shipping I have ever experienced for such a small sized item, this is an almost unacceptable lead time imo.
Hello fellow Canadian. The switches travel all over China before being shipped to Canada. Just to give you a indication of how long it would take, my shipment shipped on 12/26 and just got to Canada on 1/15. I have yet to receive them, but at least they're in the country. I think. I'm hopeful I get them in another week, but I'm not holding my breath. I'm in Alberta, if that's of any consequence.
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Thu, 17 January 2019, 15:11:35
Post by: rondg on Thu, 17 January 2019, 15:53:53
I am not sure if this is always the case though...
EDIT: I'm not sure if it was Hong Kong or Taiwan...
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 17 January 2019, 17:30:09
Post by: rudy44 on Thu, 17 January 2019, 20:14:36
For those of you who have received it, did shipping actually cost $15?
Post by: clik_clak on Thu, 17 January 2019, 20:26:25
This shipping is indeed terrible. For $15 I expected better.
For those of you who have received it, did shipping actually cost $15?
$15 shipping and you're expecting amazing things from something coming from the other side of the world?
TX charged me $120 for my last keyboard purchase.
Post by: Ashardalon on Thu, 17 January 2019, 21:07:09
Not sure what is going on but with my tracking info it still shows it is in china, if that tracking map on their site is any indication. I have been patiently waiting for weeks like everyone here and unsure if I am even going to get the switches. I am from Canada. The way that it is travelling is it even going to my country?
This is actually probably the slowest shipping I have ever experienced for such a small sized item, this is an almost unacceptable lead time imo.
Hello fellow Canadian. The switches travel all over China before being shipped to Canada. Just to give you a indication of how long it would take, my shipment shipped on 12/26 and just got to Canada on 1/15. I have yet to receive them, but at least they're in the country. I think. I'm hopeful I get them in another week, but I'm not holding my breath. I'm in Alberta, if that's of any consequence.
Mine said they touched down in Canada on the 9th, and then said the same thing on the 15th, so I'm just guessing it'll be next week until they get here.
Post by: Mekuno on Thu, 17 January 2019, 21:16:17
This shipping is indeed terrible. For $15 I expected better.
For those of you who have received it, did shipping actually cost $15?
$15 shipping and you're expecting amazing things from something coming from the other side of the world?
TX charged me $120 for my last keyboard purchase.
I've ordered tons of international items and especially from China (e.g superbuy etc) and their shipping is around that same price for 3-5 days max.. don't forget this is a LIGHT weight parcel. Keyboards that are a lot heavier I would understand.
Post by: rudy44 on Thu, 17 January 2019, 22:02:15
This shipping is indeed terrible. For $15 I expected better.
For those of you who have received it, did shipping actually cost $15?
$15 shipping and you're expecting amazing things from something coming from the other side of the world?
TX charged me $120 for my last keyboard purchase.
To clarify, I'm in Asia. Small packages from China are usually under $5.
Post by: vegs on Fri, 18 January 2019, 01:07:38
Post by: boxfrommoon on Sat, 19 January 2019, 09:53:28
Post by: PaultheSloth on Sat, 19 January 2019, 09:56:59
Post by: bard on Sat, 19 January 2019, 11:57:27
Code: [Select]
2019-01-18 11:00
Poland, 【Poland】 Shipment transfers to SF appointed self-pickup location
2019-01-18 10:21
Poland, 【Poland】Item postingI've noticed a move for mine, but I do not have a post office notification or something. Looks like a fake tracking notification.
Question to all who already got their packages, was it delivered by a local post office or a private company like DHL/UPS and so on?
Post by: scoopbb on Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:25:55
Post by: ZyBeR on Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:32:21
Post by: mudcakehoney on Sun, 20 January 2019, 00:49:04
Post by: bard on Sun, 20 January 2019, 02:17:54
Post by: dankdesire on Sun, 20 January 2019, 09:34:31
local post. the local tracking number was available from https://intl.sf-express.com/ , as someone else posted once you do the captcha and all that there are 3 tracking numbers. 1 was the sf express, one was local and i have no idea what the third was.
Where oin the site did you find the local tracking number? I have a tracking number that I got through paypal, but theres only the sf-exress one
Post by: Lansky on Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:28:33
(https://i.imgur.com/tsLpjwF.jpg)
Post by: kokoon on Sun, 20 January 2019, 14:21:22
Do the tracking on sf-express website, when they show you the tracking information, there are additional tracking numbers. The second one worked for my local post tracking, I'm expecting the package to be delivered tomorrow.local post. the local tracking number was available from https://intl.sf-express.com/ , as someone else posted once you do the captcha and all that there are 3 tracking numbers. 1 was the sf express, one was local and i have no idea what the third was.
Where oin the site did you find the local tracking number? I have a tracking number that I got through paypal, but theres only the sf-exress one
(https://i.imgur.com/LCmKWeb.png)
Post by: mudcakehoney on Sun, 20 January 2019, 14:37:24
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 20 January 2019, 18:38:04
This shipping is indeed terrible. For $15 I expected better.
For those of you who have received it, did shipping actually cost $15?
$15 shipping and you're expecting amazing things from something coming from the other side of the world?
TX charged me $120 for my last keyboard purchase.
120 for shipping is not too crazy. I have had a $200 shipping via express (for about 8KG)
Post by: bard on Mon, 21 January 2019, 00:23:04
Do the tracking on sf-express website, when they show you the tracking information, there are additional tracking numbers. The second one worked for my local post tracking, I'm expecting the package to be delivered tomorrow.local post. the local tracking number was available from https://intl.sf-express.com/ , as someone else posted once you do the captcha and all that there are 3 tracking numbers. 1 was the sf express, one was local and i have no idea what the third was.
Where oin the site did you find the local tracking number? I have a tracking number that I got through paypal, but theres only the sf-exress oneShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/LCmKWeb.png)
I see just one the origin tracking number :confused:
Post by: kokoon on Mon, 21 January 2019, 01:11:14
Post by: bard on Mon, 21 January 2019, 02:31:20
I queried by the tracking number that was added to my paypal when the item was shipped. On the screenshot, see where I circled a tracking number - that's a different one. Below that is the tracking number I queried by and above the circled one is a third one, I couldn't get any matches for that one.
Yeah I really tied :))
(https://i.imgur.com/nBHt5pN.png)
Post by: GoatMaster on Mon, 21 January 2019, 03:42:01
Post by: cucgach on Mon, 21 January 2019, 07:10:19
Mine was sent since Dec 27 and the status is still In transit. It is weird to take that long from China to Vietnam despite the holiday season. Haizzz
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just discover my package was sent to Sweden direct link back to Vietnam. It does not make any sense to go way up to Europe before return back to South Asia. That's logistic epic calculation ??!?! Haizzzz
Post by: bard on Mon, 21 January 2019, 08:49:22
The funny thing is that it was delivered by local mail office, but the package was sent by a company from my small as f__k home city to a place where I live now (300 km / 190 ml).
My first thought was that a family member sent me a git, but I got GSUSed ;)
Post by: neoCobweb on Mon, 21 January 2019, 17:09:40
Post by: spooknik on Tue, 22 January 2019, 05:15:50
Post by: RETURNISO on Tue, 22 January 2019, 05:41:38
The Danish post (PostNord) has lost my package in the local delivery depot and say there's nothing that can be done and I need to contact the sender. Anyone know what to do here? It seems like RiP Gsus for me.
Typisk postnord.. Det virker om de generalt har svært ved at håndtere SF.. du burde klage til dem hvis du kan finde det international pakke nr? Ellers så håbe den ryger retur og OP modtaget den.
Post by: spooknik on Tue, 22 January 2019, 06:10:13
The Danish post (PostNord) has lost my package in the local delivery depot and say there's nothing that can be done and I need to contact the sender. Anyone know what to do here? It seems like RiP Gsus for me.
Typisk postnord.. Det virker om de generalt har svært ved at håndtere SF.. du burde klage til dem hvis du kan finde det international pakke nr? Ellers så håbe den ryger retur og OP modtaget den.
Jeg har international pakke nr. og den står i distributionscenter i min by, men de kan ikke find pakken der ned. Jeg snakkede men distributionscenter leder og han sagde fordi det var sendt som en 'Registered Letter' (kun tracking) og ikke en rekommanderet brev så er det ikke forsikring. De skal kig igen i distributionscenter men det lyder ikke godt. Det er 100% PostNords fejl.
[Sorry non-Scandinavians]
Post by: cucgach on Tue, 22 January 2019, 12:29:00
Post by: rudy44 on Tue, 22 January 2019, 20:36:20
Post by: Ashardalon on Wed, 23 January 2019, 00:05:02
I feel tired and frustrated about the shipping experience.. worst shipping service ever! (or maybe because i'm too angry ..)
Yeah this has taken a month and I haven't had any updates on the shipping since the 15th, and I still don't have the package.
Post by: Velvet_Crowe on Thu, 24 January 2019, 16:27:07
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 25 January 2019, 12:04:52
Post by: neon_tom on Fri, 25 January 2019, 12:10:39
Anyone in canada receive theirs?
Yep. Got mine this week in Toronto.
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 25 January 2019, 12:39:49
Okay, thanks. So hopefully another week to reach ABAnyone in canada receive theirs?
Yep. Got mine this week in Toronto.
Post by: cucgach on Fri, 25 January 2019, 21:26:17
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Post by: ilouis_07 on Sat, 26 January 2019, 11:28:09
Post by: Signature on Sat, 26 January 2019, 11:30:41
Just when i though "f*** it, i don't care anymore", the package arrived out of the blue..Intresting to have it return to a PO Box in Malmö in Sweden in case of not delivering :rolleyes:Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190126/99f46c74ce993a42f1bc2e503a64f323.jpg)
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Post by: DJSwayde on Sat, 26 January 2019, 16:45:20
Post by: cucgach on Sat, 26 January 2019, 21:40:35
Just when i though "f*** it, i don't care anymore", the package arrived out of the blue..Intresting to have it return to a PO Box in Malmö in Sweden in case of not delivering :rolleyes:Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190126/99f46c74ce993a42f1bc2e503a64f323.jpg)
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Haha.. actually it has 2 tracking, 1 is the original SF tracking and the other is Direct Link from Sweden. Guess they have a drop point there in Sweden..
Post by: Xynerorias on Sun, 27 January 2019, 09:34:53
I tried to pm SuperVan but still no answer after a week :(
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Sun, 27 January 2019, 14:14:51
So apparently my package's informations was all messed up (no appartement number, just the building, and also there was my first name instead of my last name and there was actually nothing for the first name) so the delivery guy couldn't well, deliver it, and so now it's going ack all the way to China apparently. Great...Who did you contact to get this kind of information? Sf express? USPS?
I tried to pm SuperVan but still no answer after a week :(
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 27 January 2019, 14:22:46
So apparently my package's informations was all messed up (no appartement number, just the building, and also there was my first name instead of my last name and there was actually nothing for the first name) so the delivery guy couldn't well, deliver it, and so now it's going ack all the way to China apparently. Great...
I tried to pm SuperVan but still no answer after a week :(
how in the ****
Post by: ZyBeR on Sun, 27 January 2019, 15:25:07
Just when i though "f*** it, i don't care anymore", the package arrived out of the blue..Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190126/99f46c74ce993a42f1bc2e503a64f323.jpg)
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WTF... I'm from Sweden and on my package it had a return address to Estonia(!)
This whole GB is pretty sketchy... (happy with the switches they, they are awesome!)
Post by: smoian on Sun, 27 January 2019, 17:31:13
Overall no complaints with my experience. Switches work great as well.
Post by: cucgach on Mon, 28 January 2019, 00:52:32
LoL.. i totally don't understand tbe logistic logic behind this GB. At least we received the package and it's important..Just when i though "f*** it, i don't care anymore", the package arrived out of the blue..Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190126/99f46c74ce993a42f1bc2e503a64f323.jpg)
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WTF... I'm from Sweden and on my package it had a return address to Estonia(!)
This whole GB is pretty sketchy... (happy with the switches they, they are awesome!)
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Post by: Xynerorias on Mon, 28 January 2019, 04:09:01
So apparently my package's informations was all messed up (no appartement number, just the building, and also there was my first name instead of my last name and there was actually nothing for the first name) so the delivery guy couldn't well, deliver it, and so now it's going ack all the way to China apparently. Great...Who did you contact to get this kind of information? Sf express? USPS?
I tried to pm SuperVan but still no answer after a week :(
I was out of town for the weekend and they tried to deliver it 2 times in 2 days, and the second day the delivery guy tried to call me and left me a voicemail telling me about the messed up informations. I tried to call him back the next day and the day after that but nothing. I tracked my package on the sf-express website and there's no news of my package, it just sits at failed delivery and it reads "The delivery of the item was unsuccessful,Item returned to sender".
I tried to pm him in case he got any news of a package coming back and to let him know that if so I'm willing to pay for another shipping with a different courrier but like I said, no answer.
Post by: bard on Mon, 28 January 2019, 08:05:47
Even we paid (10-15 USD) for the shipping it's not worth it, in comparison to NK - I paid 14-15USD for shipping (registered priority mail) and got my package in 12 days (29d for S.F. Express with GSUS).
I guess that someone wanted to cut some costs :))
Post by: mrpetrov on Mon, 28 January 2019, 18:50:51
Post by: KaosJ on Tue, 29 January 2019, 00:55:03
Any opinions on what springs to use with these housings? The stock spring doesn't look like much on visual inspection.
Sprit everyday
Post by: mrpetrov on Tue, 29 January 2019, 08:38:51
Any opinions on what springs to use with these housings? The stock spring doesn't look like much on visual inspection.
Sprit everyday
What weight did you go for and progressive or not?
Post by: rudy44 on Tue, 29 January 2019, 10:58:10
When it took over 5 weeks to arrive, I had to reach out to SF express to find out how much it actually cost to ship.
I was informed my package cost 20 CNY which is about US$3.
Considering packing and other factors, wouldn't 5 or even 10 dollars be a more reasonable amount? At $15, I don't see how no money was made off shipping.
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 29 January 2019, 11:13:26
Post by: booleanjulien on Tue, 29 January 2019, 21:15:28
A bit disappointed that these don't fit in my K-Type or CTRL, though... they're too big.
Post by: RamenTechMech on Wed, 30 January 2019, 00:01:40
Finally got mine yesterday!
A bit disappointed that these don't fit in my K-Type or CTRL, though... they're too big.
You have to force them in :'(
Post by: dankdesire on Wed, 30 January 2019, 03:40:22
17track is showing me:
2019-01-29 06:17
Finland, 【Finland】 The shipment is being returned【 Reason: Returned to sender for receiver refusal】
Never got a local shipping number from anywhere, never got any note or package deliver home or anything.
SuperVan if you are reading this, please message me or I will file for a refund in paypal after 1.5 week
Post by: zizard on Wed, 30 January 2019, 03:41:52
Post by: booleanjulien on Wed, 30 January 2019, 09:11:55
Finally got mine yesterday!
A bit disappointed that these don't fit in my K-Type or CTRL, though... they're too big.
You have to force them in :'(
Seems like switch housing size and hence fit into hotswaps can vary a lot. I find cherry mx easy to remove from my GMMK, whereas NK are difficult. Not sure why this is... seems like the external housing dimensions should be well-specified.
I use box Royals in my hot swap boards all the time, but the slight difficuly there is just because of the slightly larger north facing plate clips. If you put them in south-side first, then it requires a bit of force but they then snap in (and are subsequently easier, as they're shaved down by that first insertion).
These GSUS switches are totally different, though. I can't even force them in, as the force required is beyond my "I might damage my board" threshold. In the past (before describing the NK insertion method described above) I've forced in Box Royals when the pins weren't lined up, and since they were hard to insert anyway, there was no feedback indication of said pins not lining up, so I ended up popping out a few of the hot sockets without even knowing it.
Post by: Xynerorias on Thu, 31 January 2019, 14:55:24
SF-Express is now showing 2019-01-14 Monday 08:02:00 Out for delivery
17track is showing me:
2019-01-29 06:17
Finland, 【Finland】 The shipment is being returned【 Reason: Returned to sender for receiver refusal】
Never got a local shipping number from anywhere, never got any note or package deliver home or anything.
SuperVan if you are reading this, please message me or I will file for a refund in paypal after 1.5 week
I think I'm going to do the same. If I don't get a response from you SuperVan either through DMs, the email I sent you or here in 15 days, I'll file a refund too.
Post by: RamenTechMech on Thu, 31 January 2019, 15:00:31
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Thu, 31 January 2019, 15:22:21
SF-Express is now showing 2019-01-14 Monday 08:02:00 Out for delivery
17track is showing me:
2019-01-29 06:17
Finland, 【Finland】 The shipment is being returned【 Reason: Returned to sender for receiver refusal】
Never got a local shipping number from anywhere, never got any note or package deliver home or anything.
SuperVan if you are reading this, please message me or I will file for a refund in paypal after 1.5 week
I think I'm going to do the same. If I don't get a response from you SuperVan either through DMs, the email I sent you or here in 15 days, I'll file a refund too.
Did you use the email address linked to his PayPal? I'm at the end of the road too, and emailing is my last resort before I go to PayPal for a refund.
Post by: daneb on Fri, 01 February 2019, 04:59:56
I would like just to encourage you who have not received your switches yet, that you will probably see them in the end... I have received them just today - after more than month (Czech Rep., EU). Tracking path was confusing from the beginning, showing moving goods between China and Hong-Kong, not indicating it is anyway near Europe. The parcel came through Netherlands - which is return address on it - so I suppose they are sending big packages of packages to EU and then they re-send them from within EU as individual packages, which can further complicate tracking). I am not apologizing such problematic shipping services, just explaining where problems might be. I think the same may be valid for other areas.
Post by: Xynerorias on Fri, 01 February 2019, 11:12:48
SF-Express is now showing 2019-01-14 Monday 08:02:00 Out for delivery
17track is showing me:
2019-01-29 06:17
Finland, 【Finland】 The shipment is being returned【 Reason: Returned to sender for receiver refusal】
Never got a local shipping number from anywhere, never got any note or package deliver home or anything.
SuperVan if you are reading this, please message me or I will file for a refund in paypal after 1.5 week
I think I'm going to do the same. If I don't get a response from you SuperVan either through DMs, the email I sent you or here in 15 days, I'll file a refund too.
Did you use the email address linked to his PayPal? I'm at the end of the road too, and emailing is my last resort before I go to PayPal for a refund.
Yes I did.
Post by: Helldrop on Fri, 01 February 2019, 13:21:16
Post by: Ashardalon on Fri, 01 February 2019, 15:34:45
It’s already been two months. I live near China, but I haven’t received the switches yet, and even the tracking of my package hasn’t been updated for a month. So I requested SuperVan to resolve this issue, but I didn’t get any responses from him. I’m sick of his irresponsible attitude.
I also messaged him over a week ago and haven't received a response. Wish I had just waited and gone for the YOK Red Pandas.
Post by: jobest06 on Tue, 05 February 2019, 19:33:00
Post by: frothy on Thu, 14 February 2019, 16:14:29
Post by: Rob27shred on Thu, 14 February 2019, 18:12:21
Any opinions on what springs to use with these housings? The stock spring doesn't look like much on visual inspection.
If they are the same springs that YOK Red Pandas use (which considering YOKs are the same as GSUS, just a different color I'd bet they are) you're absolutely right, they're trash. When I first got my YOKs I did some messing around with swapping the stems & springs of few different switches with them. I put a YOK spring & Halo stem in a V2 Zealio housing & the YOK spring created the worst spring noise I have ever heard. Crunch or ping are woefully understating the sounds that came out that monstrosity, basically it was a very loud grinding noise! That said they did not sound nearly that bad in the YOK housings, but it did kill any confidence I have in using those springs in any switch.
Anyways the springs I used for my "Satanic Pandas" were Spirit 72g stainless steel ones & I am very happy with the feel of them. It really depends on your personal preferences on spring weighting, but for me 67g to 78g springs seems to be the sweet spot for Holy Pandas & Holy variants. :thumb:
Post by: wellbeing44 on Sat, 16 February 2019, 01:02:33
Any opinions on what springs to use with these housings? The stock spring doesn't look like much on visual inspection.
If they are the same springs that YOK Red Pandas use (which considering YOKs are the same as GSUS, just a different color I'd bet they are) you're absolutely right, they're trash. When I first got my YOKs I did some messing around with swapping the stems & springs of few different switches with them. I put a YOK spring & Halo stem in a V2 Zealio housing & the YOK spring created the worst spring noise I have ever heard. Crunch or ping are woefully understating the sounds that came out that monstrosity, basically it was a very loud grinding noise! That said they did not sound nearly that bad in the YOK housings, but it did kill any confidence I have in using those springs in any switch.
Anyways the springs I used for my "Satanic Pandas" were Spirit 72g stainless steel ones & I am very happy with the feel of them. It really depends on your personal preferences on spring weighting, but for me 67g to 78g springs seems to be the sweet spot for Holy Pandas & Holy variants. :thumb:
Isn't it a given that the only thing worth using in Panda switches and clones is the housing? I've never heard of anyone using the springs or stems unironically.
Post by: Starston3 on Sat, 16 February 2019, 01:03:59
Any opinions on what springs to use with these housings? The stock spring doesn't look like much on visual inspection.
If they are the same springs that YOK Red Pandas use (which considering YOKs are the same as GSUS, just a different color I'd bet they are) you're absolutely right, they're trash. When I first got my YOKs I did some messing around with swapping the stems & springs of few different switches with them. I put a YOK spring & Halo stem in a V2 Zealio housing & the YOK spring created the worst spring noise I have ever heard. Crunch or ping are woefully understating the sounds that came out that monstrosity, basically it was a very loud grinding noise! That said they did not sound nearly that bad in the YOK housings, but it did kill any confidence I have in using those springs in any switch.
Anyways the springs I used for my "Satanic Pandas" were Spirit 72g stainless steel ones & I am very happy with the feel of them. It really depends on your personal preferences on spring weighting, but for me 67g to 78g springs seems to be the sweet spot for Holy Pandas & Holy variants. :thumb:
Isn't it a given that the only thing worth using in Panda switches and clones is the housing? I've never heard of anyone using the springs or stems unironically.
OG pandas had a decent spring. Clones do not.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 17 February 2019, 16:02:12
Any opinions on what springs to use with these housings? The stock spring doesn't look like much on visual inspection.
If they are the same springs that YOK Red Pandas use (which considering YOKs are the same as GSUS, just a different color I'd bet they are) you're absolutely right, they're trash. When I first got my YOKs I did some messing around with swapping the stems & springs of few different switches with them. I put a YOK spring & Halo stem in a V2 Zealio housing & the YOK spring created the worst spring noise I have ever heard. Crunch or ping are woefully understating the sounds that came out that monstrosity, basically it was a very loud grinding noise! That said they did not sound nearly that bad in the YOK housings, but it did kill any confidence I have in using those springs in any switch.
Anyways the springs I used for my "Satanic Pandas" were Spirit 72g stainless steel ones & I am very happy with the feel of them. It really depends on your personal preferences on spring weighting, but for me 67g to 78g springs seems to be the sweet spot for Holy Pandas & Holy variants. :thumb:
Isn't it a given that the only thing worth using in Panda switches and clones is the housing? I've never heard of anyone using the springs or stems unironically.
OG pandas had a decent spring. Clones do not.
For OG pandas, I'd still swap them out for SPRiT 65g or 63.5g :)
Post by: nulltorious on Sun, 17 February 2019, 19:36:27
Post by: rondg on Mon, 18 February 2019, 22:21:16
I used Sprit 72g progressive springs, they turned out quite well. No spring crunch and weighting feels snappy.
I'm really curious about this.. Does the progressive spring have any noticeable advantage over the non-progressive spring?
Post by: nulltorious on Mon, 18 February 2019, 22:53:16
I used Sprit 72g progressive springs, they turned out quite well. No spring crunch and weighting feels snappy.
I'm really curious about this.. Does the progressive spring have any noticeable advantage over the non-progressive spring?
I have the 1.1v springs, which feel the same as a non-progressive spring. The weighting at the ends are too similar to make a noticeable feel. However, the 1.2v springs have a greater difference between the actuation(I have not tried the 1.2v yet).
My comment is mainly about 72g Sprit springs being very good weight for Holy GSUS.
Post by: Ashardalon on Tue, 19 February 2019, 00:06:25
Any opinions on what springs to use with these housings? The stock spring doesn't look like much on visual inspection.
If they are the same springs that YOK Red Pandas use (which considering YOKs are the same as GSUS, just a different color I'd bet they are) you're absolutely right, they're trash. When I first got my YOKs I did some messing around with swapping the stems & springs of few different switches with them. I put a YOK spring & Halo stem in a V2 Zealio housing & the YOK spring created the worst spring noise I have ever heard. Crunch or ping are woefully understating the sounds that came out that monstrosity, basically it was a very loud grinding noise! That said they did not sound nearly that bad in the YOK housings, but it did kill any confidence I have in using those springs in any switch.
Anyways the springs I used for my "Satanic Pandas" were Spirit 72g stainless steel ones & I am very happy with the feel of them. It really depends on your personal preferences on spring weighting, but for me 67g to 78g springs seems to be the sweet spot for Holy Pandas & Holy variants. :thumb:
Do you find that there's any major difference between SS springs and gold-plated? The gold-plated look nice, but they're a fair bit more expensive and I'm not sure if the cost is truly justified.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 19 February 2019, 01:42:22
Any opinions on what springs to use with these housings? The stock spring doesn't look like much on visual inspection.
If they are the same springs that YOK Red Pandas use (which considering YOKs are the same as GSUS, just a different color I'd bet they are) you're absolutely right, they're trash. When I first got my YOKs I did some messing around with swapping the stems & springs of few different switches with them. I put a YOK spring & Halo stem in a V2 Zealio housing & the YOK spring created the worst spring noise I have ever heard. Crunch or ping are woefully understating the sounds that came out that monstrosity, basically it was a very loud grinding noise! That said they did not sound nearly that bad in the YOK housings, but it did kill any confidence I have in using those springs in any switch.
Anyways the springs I used for my "Satanic Pandas" were Spirit 72g stainless steel ones & I am very happy with the feel of them. It really depends on your personal preferences on spring weighting, but for me 67g to 78g springs seems to be the sweet spot for Holy Pandas & Holy variants. :thumb:
Do you find that there's any major difference between SS springs and gold-plated? The gold-plated look nice, but they're a fair bit more expensive and I'm not sure if the cost is truly justified.
there is no difference at all aside from aesthetic
some have claimed that gold springs will be smoother but i have seen no evidence of this either way
Post by: faxe on Wed, 20 February 2019, 04:11:54
SF-Express is now showing 2019-01-14 Monday 08:02:00 Out for delivery
17track is showing me:
2019-01-29 06:17
Finland, 【Finland】 The shipment is being returned【 Reason: Returned to sender for receiver refusal】
Never got a local shipping number from anywhere, never got any note or package deliver home or anything.
SuperVan if you are reading this, please message me or I will file for a refund in paypal after 1.5 week
Exactly the same thing happened to me. Tried contacting SuperVan, waiting on reply as well. Did you get any?
Post by: spooknik on Wed, 20 February 2019, 05:37:03
SF-Express is now showing 2019-01-14 Monday 08:02:00 Out for delivery
17track is showing me:
2019-01-29 06:17
Finland, 【Finland】 The shipment is being returned【 Reason: Returned to sender for receiver refusal】
Never got a local shipping number from anywhere, never got any note or package deliver home or anything.
SuperVan if you are reading this, please message me or I will file for a refund in paypal after 1.5 week
Exactly the same thing happened to me. Tried contacting SuperVan, waiting on reply as well. Did you get any?
My switches never came, so I tried writing Supervan a PM and an email, gave him two weeks. Never heard anything. I filed a claim on Paypal about a month ago. The seller should respond and you should work out a deal with the seller. Never heard anything from Supervan. Asked paypal to escalate the claim meaning they will look into it and make decision if I get the money back. So i'm waiting for them to come back with an answer next Monday. I suggest anyone who hasn't gotten their switches to take it up with paypal.
Supervan is MIA and not willing to work things out 1 to 1 get your money back while you can.
Post by: Rumai on Sun, 24 February 2019, 23:03:26
Please post any updates re: your disputes
Post by: spooknik on Sun, 24 February 2019, 23:56:36
Please post any updates re: your disputes
Today was the 10 day deadline for Supervan to reply to the depute on Paypal. It seems he has not done that. So paypal will make a decision about the case on their own.
I'll update this post with that happens.
Post by: cdaman on Mon, 25 February 2019, 11:39:59
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Post by: Gondolindrim on Mon, 25 February 2019, 13:17:06
Post by: Xynerorias on Mon, 25 February 2019, 15:01:08
Is he still taking orders? From what I see he's kinda missing, not even replying to PP disputes
No he's not, and even if he were I would strongly advise against it because as you said he doesn't even reply to any Paypal dispute (including mine, that's why I'm writing this down I'm kinda butthurt, I've given up on the switches I just want my money back at this point) I really wish I joined the holy pandas buy on Massdrop when this rolled out instead of giving this a try.
If you really want some, mechmarket is the place to go :thumb:
Please post any updates re: your disputes
Today was the 10 day deadline for Supervan to reply to the depute on Paypal. It seems he has not done that. So paypal will make a decision about the case on their own.
I'll update this post with that happens.
Please do. I'm in the same boat, just a little bit late. I'd like to know if I'll get my money back :D
Post by: spyruf on Mon, 25 February 2019, 18:06:39
Is he still taking orders? From what I see he's kinda missing, not even replying to PP disputes
No he's not, and even if he were I would strongly advise against it because as you said he doesn't even reply to any Paypal dispute (including mine, that's why I'm writing this down I'm kinda butthurt, I've given up on the switches I just want my money back at this point) I really wish I joined the holy pandas buy on Massdrop when this rolled out instead of giving this a try.
If you really want some, mechmarket is the place to go :thumb:Please post any updates re: your disputes
Today was the 10 day deadline for Supervan to reply to the depute on Paypal. It seems he has not done that. So paypal will make a decision about the case on their own.
I'll update this post with that happens.
Please do. I'm in the same boat, just a little bit late. I'd like to know if I'll get my money back :D
From my experience with PayPal you will receive your money back. If the switches do appear at a later point the seller can claim the refund back (e.g. you pay then for the switches).
Post by: Gondolindrim on Mon, 25 February 2019, 18:27:18
Is he still taking orders? From what I see he's kinda missing, not even replying to PP disputes
No he's not, and even if he were I would strongly advise against it because as you said he doesn't even reply to any Paypal dispute (including mine, that's why I'm writing this down I'm kinda butthurt, I've given up on the switches I just want my money back at this point) I really wish I joined the holy pandas buy on Massdrop when this rolled out instead of giving this a try.
If you really want some, mechmarket is the place to go :thumb:Please post any updates re: your disputes
Today was the 10 day deadline for Supervan to reply to the depute on Paypal. It seems he has not done that. So paypal will make a decision about the case on their own.
I'll update this post with that happens.
Please do. I'm in the same boat, just a little bit late. I'd like to know if I'll get my money back :D
From my experience with PayPal you will receive your money back. If the switches do appear at a later point the seller can claim the refund back (e.g. you pay then for the switches).
My condolences. This sucks big time. As for me I'll get some YOKs I guess. Thanks for the advice.
Post by: Rumblehotep on Mon, 25 February 2019, 18:58:10
Post by: spooknik on Wed, 06 March 2019, 02:37:38
Is he still taking orders? From what I see he's kinda missing, not even replying to PP disputes
No he's not, and even if he were I would strongly advise against it because as you said he doesn't even reply to any Paypal dispute (including mine, that's why I'm writing this down I'm kinda butthurt, I've given up on the switches I just want my money back at this point) I really wish I joined the holy pandas buy on Massdrop when this rolled out instead of giving this a try.
If you really want some, mechmarket is the place to go :thumb:Please post any updates re: your disputes
Today was the 10 day deadline for Supervan to reply to the depute on Paypal. It seems he has not done that. So paypal will make a decision about the case on their own.
I'll update this post with that happens.
Please do. I'm in the same boat, just a little bit late. I'd like to know if I'll get my money back :D
From my experience with PayPal you will receive your money back. If the switches do appear at a later point the seller can claim the refund back (e.g. you pay then for the switches).
PayPal refunded me today. Supervan was MIA for the whole process. Thankfully mykeyboard.eu has some Yoks In stock, so I'll treat myself.
Post by: Xynerorias on Wed, 06 March 2019, 05:34:03
Is he still taking orders? From what I see he's kinda missing, not even replying to PP disputes
No he's not, and even if he were I would strongly advise against it because as you said he doesn't even reply to any Paypal dispute (including mine, that's why I'm writing this down I'm kinda butthurt, I've given up on the switches I just want my money back at this point) I really wish I joined the holy pandas buy on Massdrop when this rolled out instead of giving this a try.
If you really want some, mechmarket is the place to go :thumb:Please post any updates re: your disputes
Today was the 10 day deadline for Supervan to reply to the depute on Paypal. It seems he has not done that. So paypal will make a decision about the case on their own.
I'll update this post with that happens.
Please do. I'm in the same boat, just a little bit late. I'd like to know if I'll get my money back :D
From my experience with PayPal you will receive your money back. If the switches do appear at a later point the seller can claim the refund back (e.g. you pay then for the switches).
PayPal refunded me today. Supervan was MIA for the whole process. Thankfully mykeyboard.eu has some Yoks In stock, so I'll treat myself.
Thanks for the update! Paypal is now looking at my case and seeing how it turned out for you makes me hopeful! I just hope there'll be some YOK left when they'll refund me! I kinda wanted to get the OG look with the white housing from the GSUS though but I think I'm past that now.
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 06 March 2019, 10:08:52
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Post by: rudy44 on Sat, 09 March 2019, 07:14:48
Seeing all the problems throughout as well as the lack of communication and unwillingness to refund "missing" ordersShow Image(https://i.gyazo.com/577912d076ba8163d101f8ee23bef768.png)
and the dishonesty regarding the shipping costs.
Post by: Sintpinty on Mon, 12 August 2019, 19:32:17
Hi, guys,
I'm SuperVan. I'm pleased to announce that the Gsus Switches group buy is now live.
First of all, I want to express my sincere gratitude for friends who have supported me and apology to some Geekhack users who have supported me but I responded negatively. As you guys probably have seen on the IC thread, I received attacks from some with vicious intentions. These vicious attackers’ verbal abuse made me feel depressed. I regret having said something irrational when I feel I was being wronged. Sometimes I can't precisely express my thoughts because of a lack of solid grasp of English, compounded with cultural differences. However, some ill-intentioned attackers described me as a scammer, an unpleasant man, and a person who is only interested in profit in this cause. I countered their points with facts and most importantly, the timely delivery of Gsus. It is simply not fair to me to be defamed without any proof. In the United States, even the accused are innocent until proven guilty. I should have been offered the benefits of doubt, but not endless attacks. Before the actual testings of Nathan Kim, TOPCLACK and Manofinterests, some attackers said SuperVan is a scam. After these three well-regarded streamers confirmed that the Gsus switch is practically the same as the OG Panda, some continued to use other reasons to attack me. I stood up and fought hard to protect myself against these personal attacks. What’s interesting is, in this process, the attackers provided a lot of theories and arguments, but they never provided any actual proof. I think all they wanted to do was to force me to give up to run the GB. But at the end of the day, I think this will come to an end, and I am here, proudly announcing that Gsus switch will be available soon.
To put things into perspective, the past month is the most difficult time for me. I lost my elder cousin, who is also my best friend on Nov. 19th. He was only 31 years old. According to Chinese tradition, my family won't build a graveyard for him because he was an unmarried man and didn't have a child. His funeral service has been done in China, but I couldn't even attend his funeral. I knew nobody could feel my pain at that time, but I had experience traumatic events and this might have made me lost control in my emotions. That said, I feel very sorry for many people I have replied in a mad mood and I would like to apologize for that.
I'm a runner for sure, but It doesn't mean I'm not a keyboard fan. As a guy who have joined many group buys, what I hate most is waiting endlessly. So for this GB, I tried my best to improve the group buy process. The switches for the group buy are all purchase upfront with my own money, which also means I will ship your switches at the as soon as the GB payments are collected. I want to note that some people tried hard to emphasize the Gsus price will be 1.5 dollars. As a matter of fact, that is the starting price, and it can drop to $1. I am very confident about the quality of the Gsus and I am confident about my ability to deliver, so I have decided to change the pricing to a uniform price of $1 dollar per switch, with a MOQ of 10k. Note that this is products ready to ship, not something you typically need to wait six months to get (with a lot of anxiety and hassle). Considering my own financial and social costs I have incurred, and the risks I have taken, I think $1 is a reasonable price.
At the last, I hope you everyone will enjoy his or her life and enjoy the hobby of mechanical keyboards. You have the right to join or skip this GB, I will support all your decisions about the GB. I hope no one will detract this GB post with personal attacks, thank you.
IC thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97651.0
Reviews
Nathan Kim's Review:
Manofinterests's Review:
Quakemz's Review:
Group Buy Information (Updated)
Name: GSUS Linear Switch (New Panda Switch)
Spring weight: 67g buttom out
Price: $0.6/pcs
Paypal fee: 4.4%
Shipping fee: $15 worldwide (shipping from China)
Deadline: 2018/12/19
Shipping Time: start at 2018/12/20
Join the GB here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf_IsUwOlJuz3xap-mD9QTvrVRzUH_HbVYQCOeFFS6LhiYCoA/viewform?usp=sf_link
Rerun pls
Post by: rondg on Tue, 13 August 2019, 00:10:08
Rerun pls
Why not buy Yoks from NovelKeys_? They are basically the same...