DSA Retro Set (SHIPPED!)

[Matt3o]

personally I'm against round 2s.

the set should be one of a kind limited edition

I will definitely work on new group buys, but in different colors/materials.

[Krogenar]

personally I'm against round 2s.

the set should be one of a kind limited edition

I will definitely work on new group buys, but in different colors/materials.

Artists don't repeat themselves! 

[oluf]

personally I'm against round 2s.

the set should be one of a kind limited edition

I will definitely work on new group buys, but in different colors/materials.

I agree... And, I'm excited to see what you come up with next! =D

[deSheol]

Anyone have an extra 7x spacebar? T_T

[Hellmark]

personally I'm against round 2s.

the set should be one of a kind limited edition

I will definitely work on new group buys, but in different colors/materials.

Personally, I'd love a set with black background, white foreground. If I could still get the brown set, I'd want all browns anyway. I like monochrome schemes.

[Rendom]

Having the same problem as this with my Phantom, and my Ducky. Anyone know how can I fix it? Do I really have to deassemble it? (0% soldering skills.)

I do not own a Ducky, but I have the same problem with my poker (beast plate + plate mounted cherry stabs).

The DSA spacebar fits in the stabilizers correctly and everything seems fine but it doesn't go up easily. If I press hard the spacebar can stay stuck at the lower position. I believe there some friction on the stabs that makes harder the spacebar to go up.

There is no problem like that with DCS spacebars from SP I have.

This is a bit off this thread's topic but I had the same problem as you and figured I'd chime in.

If you are installing a plate with cherry stabilizers you need to make sure the space bar stabilizer wire looks like this with a flat wire. And not like this with a curve in the center. It may depend on the height of curve but in my case it grinded against the plate and prevented the space bar from moving smoothly.

I figured this out too late and ended up having to pull the cherry stabilizers out of the already installed plate which ended up damaging the stabilizers.

Thanks but the wire I have is flat. I'm using a DCS spacebar without any problem.

If it's possible I wouldn't mind using a DCS retro spacebar if there is some available...

[SpAmRaY]

^^ I couldn't use DSA space bar on my ducky, it fit but wouldn't go up and down properly.

[yasuo]

what difference feel DSA than DCS OEM

[Rendom]

^^ I couldn't use DSA space bar on my ducky, it fit but wouldn't go up and down properly.

That's my problem too, it won't even go up for me as soon as I press it down. lol

[oldskulrulz]

Try out a good old C64

[Matt3o]

would anybody be interested in DSA Retro but in SA fragrance?

[nuclearsandwich]

Does anybody would be interested in DSA Retro but in SA fragrance?

OMYES

[pasph]

Yes

[domoaligato]

yes

[SpAmRaY]

would anybody be interested in DSA Retro but in SA fragrance?

Don't tease us

[Loligagger]

would anybody be interested in DSA Retro but in SA fragrance?

Sure, go for it.

[reziak]

Any known fixes for this? I just bought a set and the spacrbar is usable - just feels like crap...

Having the same problem as this with my Phantom, and my Ducky. Anyone know how can I fix it? Do I really have to deassemble it? (0% soldering skills.)

I do not own a Ducky, but I have the same problem with my poker (beast plate + plate mounted cherry stabs).

The DSA spacebar fits in the stabilizers correctly and everything seems fine but it doesn't go up easily. If I press hard the spacebar can stay stuck at the lower position. I believe there some friction on the stabs that makes harder the spacebar to go up.

There is no problem like that with DCS spacebars from SP I have.

This is a bit off this thread's topic but I had the same problem as you and figured I'd chime in.

If you are installing a plate with cherry stabilizers you need to make sure the space bar stabilizer wire looks like this with a flat wire. And not like this with a curve in the center. It may depend on the height of curve but in my case it grinded against the plate and prevented the space bar from moving smoothly.

I figured this out too late and ended up having to pull the cherry stabilizers out of the already installed plate which ended up damaging the stabilizers.

Thanks but the wire I have is flat. I'm using a DCS spacebar without any problem.

If it's possible I wouldn't mind using a DCS retro spacebar if there is some available...

[rowdy]

Any known fixes for this? I just bought a set and the spacrbar is usable - just feels like crap...

Is your space bar warped at all?  If you put it on a flat surface, does it lie completely flat?

[reziak]

Any known fixes for this? I just bought a set and the spacrbar is usable - just feels like crap...

Is your space bar warped at all?  If you put it on a flat surface, does it lie completely flat?

That's a really good question. I'm away from home a week or so, but I'll check when I get back. If it is, is there an easy way to bend it back?

[rowdy]

Any known fixes for this? I just bought a set and the spacrbar is usable - just feels like crap...

Is your space bar warped at all?  If you put it on a flat surface, does it lie completely flat?

That's a really good question. I'm away from home a week or so, but I'll check when I get back. If it is, is there an easy way to bend it back?

The two generally accepted methods are to heat it with a hair dryer or immerse it in hot water.

Then place it on a completely flat surface with something heavy (but not TOO heavy!) on top until it cools.

[reziak]

Any known fixes for this? I just bought a set and the spacrbar is usable - just feels like crap...

Is your space bar warped at all?  If you put it on a flat surface, does it lie completely flat?

That's a really good question. I'm away from home a week or so, but I'll check when I get back. If it is, is there an easy way to bend it back?

The two generally accepted methods are to heat it with a hair dryer or immerse it in hot water.

Then place it on a completely flat surface with something heavy (but not TOO heavy!) on top until it cools.

I'll give it a shot when I get home and report back!

[mapple]

hey guys two questions :
1) anyone have them on white backlight? i would very much appreciate some pictures.
2) any1 in europe wanna resell them?

[Matt3o]

I would really like them on amber backlight actually

[nuclearsandwich]

I would really like them on amber backlight actually

Hear hear! Darkish gold case with amber LEDs. When GON's NeRD 108 boards are ready I think that's what I'll be doing with one.

[CrapTypist]

would anybody be interested in DSA Retro but in SA fragrance?

YUSSSS

[metalliqaz]

In my experience they do a good job of blocking LED light, so any backlights are only going to show along the edges.

[mapple]

In my experience they do a good job of blocking LED light, so any backlights are only going to show along the edges.

ok that would be enough. now your experience is based on having ones or just seeing? where i'm going with it is another question. Does anyone who bought that retro set have put them on backlight cause letters/digits are white do they glow?

[usopia]

no, the LEDs do not shine through. I've tested it with red and blue lighting. It's like metalliqaz said before.

[metalliqaz]

In my experience they do a good job of blocking LED light, so any backlights are only going to show along the edges.

ok that would be enough. now your experience is based on having ones or just seeing? where i'm going with it is another question. Does anyone who bought that retro set have put them on backlight cause letters/digits are white do they glow?

I own them and they are installed on my backlit qazpad... as shown in my avatar...

The white letters don't glow at all.  Remember they are all center printed, so the letters are over the stem.

[skuphundaku]

YEEEAAAAHHHH!!!!!

[mapple]

In my experience they do a good job of blocking LED light, so any backlights are only going to show along the edges.

ok that would be enough. now your experience is based on having ones or just seeing? where i'm going with it is another question. Does anyone who bought that retro set have put them on backlight cause letters/digits are white do they glow?

I own them and they are installed on my backlit qazpad... as shown in my avatar...

The white letters don't glow at all.  Remember they are all center printed, so the letters are over the stem.

k, based on that info i did ordered dsa white pbt from keycaps direct  hopefully those ones will pass some light i'll upload a photo as soon they'll arrive.

[sean4star]

Does anyone have a spare 6.2u dsa profile spacebar?

I picked up a set from the classified section, kit 1 and 3 with a spacebar, but the spacebar was the dcs profile and I don't like it as well.

I'm also looking for a kit 4, the number pad. Anyone willing to sell?

[kaltar]

personally I'm against round 2s.

the set should be one of a kind limited edition

I will definitely work on new group buys, but in different colors/materials.

Artists don't repeat themselves! 

Are you kidding? Artists DO repeat themselves all the time. That's how they are known for a "style".

Heck, even JS Bach repeated the same melodies multiple times in different works!

I'm all in for a new round!

[DamienG]

Does anyone have a spare 6.2u dsa profile spacebar?

I picked up a set from the classified section, kit 1 and 3 with a spacebar, but the spacebar was the dcs profile and I don't like it as well.

I'm also looking for a kit 4, the number pad. Anyone willing to sell?

Bear in mind the 6.2u DSA spacebar mounting points were not universal hence why a universal 6.2u DCS was offered. Measure how far yours are from the center stem - if they are 50mm you're good to go. Would hate to see you track one down only to find it didn't fit!

[)amien

[samwisekoi]

I might have a spacebar. Where in the world are you?

 - Ron I samwisekoi

[Krogenar]

Does anyone have a spare 6.2u dsa profile spacebar?

I picked up a set from the classified section, kit 1 and 3 with a spacebar, but the spacebar was the dcs profile and I don't like it as well.

I'm also looking for a kit 4, the number pad. Anyone willing to sell?

Bear in mind the 6.2u DSA spacebar mounting points were not universal hence why a universal 6.2u DCS was offered. Measure how far yours are from the center stem - if they are 50mm you're good to go. Would hate to see you track one down only to find it didn't fit!

[)amien

Yeah, this. I have a DSA spacebar and it doesn't actuate or mount properly on my Ducky fullsize keyboard, so I switched to DCS (of the proper color) and have no problems with the set.

[SpAmRaY]

Does anyone have a spare 6.2u dsa profile spacebar?

I picked up a set from the classified section, kit 1 and 3 with a spacebar, but the spacebar was the dcs profile and I don't like it as well.

I'm also looking for a kit 4, the number pad. Anyone willing to sell?

Bear in mind the 6.2u DSA spacebar mounting points were not universal hence why a universal 6.2u DCS was offered. Measure how far yours are from the center stem - if they are 50mm you're good to go. Would hate to see you track one down only to find it didn't fit!

[)amien

Yeah, this. I have a DSA spacebar and it doesn't actuate or mount properly on my Ducky fullsize keyboard, so I switched to DCS (of the proper color) and have no problems with the set.

Had the same problem!

[sean4star]

Right now I have the caps on a Poker II.  Looks like the spacebar uses the center mount with the stabilizers on the far ends.  I just measure these at 50mm from the center.  So I think I should be good.  Thanks for the help!


Ron, I sent you a PM.

[sean4star]

Thanks Ron, for the spacebar!  The mount spacing fits my Poker 2 perfectly.


I'm still looking for the kit 4 number pad if anyone has one for sale.

[typedd]

Will this Group Buy be happening again? Can't find anything similar anywhere!!!

[Hellmark]

Typedd, I don't think they'll do another retro.

I am in the very, very early stages of trying to figure out a group buy for a similar set. Black DSA with white legend.

[rowdy]

Will this Group Buy be happening again? Can't find anything similar anywhere!!!

Welcome to Geekhack!

Based on the popularity and the number of requests for a round 2, it is possible that this might happen again at some stage.

But AFAIK no-one is planning anything at the moment.

[kektr0city]

Will this Group Buy be happening again? Can't find anything similar anywhere!!!

Welcome to Geekhack!

Based on the popularity and the number of requests for a round 2, it is possible that this might happen again at some stage.

But AFAIK no-one is planning anything at the moment.

If a round 2 were to happen, it would likely happen via the SP GB website.  They currently have the set up as an expired GB.

http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/dsa-retro-set/

[Matt3o]

the set was meant to be a "limited edition".

I might run an SA (instead of DSA) round 2 though.

[mashby]

the set was meant to be a "limited edition".

I might run an SA (instead of DSA) round 2 though.

[Hofy]

the set was meant to be a "limited edition".

I might run an SA (instead of DSA) round 2 though.

You tease.

[Oobly]

the set was meant to be a "limited edition".

I might run an SA (instead of DSA) round 2 though.

I would get in on that (if it's the full sculpted profile, not just row 3 for everything).

[rowdy]

the set was meant to be a "limited edition".

I might run an SA (instead of DSA) round 2 though.

SA would be even more like the C64 keycaps.

[isaske]

The more i'm watching those past GB's that included the DSA family, the more I'm telling myself that I can't miss the next one.
Beautiful sets. How different does DSA feel from the ordinary DCS family?

[nuclearsandwich]

The more i'm watching those past GB's that included the DSA family, the more I'm telling myself that I can't miss the next one.
Beautiful sets. How different does DSA feel from the ordinary DCS family?

DSA is a uniform profile whereas DCS, OEM, and Cherry profile are sculpted. In other words, if you took a DCS set and wanted to switch to some other layout like Dvorak or Coleman your keys would feel all wonky because the E key is designed for the top alpha row. With DSA that's not an issue because the profile on every key is "flat". In my experience it works really well on clicky and tactile switches but I'm not sure how I like it on linear switches. I also think it feels better on on keyboards that have relatively shallow typing angles from the bottom row to the top and looks amazing on boards where the top of the case is the switch plate like this one.