[IC] Polaris - GB has begun

[krisst]

I asked ai03 previously (via insta) and was told the split spacebar is compatible with HHKB layout.

For WKL/HHKB split space, the bottom row will be limited to these layouts.

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I can't say they're the most aesthetically pleasing layouts, but I guess they work physically.

Thanks for the update, would be nice if you could update the OP with latest news and changes.

And yeah, split doesn't look good imo

[fleeceman]

Looks really good! Any chances of colour samples for each option? Want to pick up a purple or blue polaris but need it to be quite dark.

[tex_live_utility]

Looks really good! Any chances of colour samples for each option? Want to pick up a purple or blue polaris but need it to be quite dark.

I would assume it's the same ano colors as on other KBDFans boards, which are not dark at all. See examples on the KBD8x MkII group buy page: https://kbdfans.cn/products/coming-soon-kbd8x-mkii-custom-mechanical-keyboard-kit

[nguyenhimself]

I asked ai03 previously (via insta) and was told the split spacebar is compatible with HHKB layout.

For WKL/HHKB split space, the bottom row will be limited to these layouts.

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I can't say they're the most aesthetically pleasing layouts, but I guess they work physically.

FYI, with that second layout, you essentially just solved one of the main reasons why people can’t switch to the HHKB layout: The lack of arrow keys.
Sure, it’s not 100% aesthetically pleasing, but it’s 90% there, and I think most will be fine with that.
I for one know that’ll be my preferred layout.

[funderburker]

I asked ai03 previously (via insta) and was told the split spacebar is compatible with HHKB layout.

For WKL/HHKB split space, the bottom row will be limited to these layouts.

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I can't say they're the most aesthetically pleasing layouts, but I guess they work physically.

FYI, with that second layout, you essentially just solved one of the main reasons why people can’t switch to the HHKB layout: The lack of arrow keys.
Sure, it’s not 100% aesthetically pleasing, but it’s 90% there, and I think most will be fine with that.
I for one know that’ll be my preferred layout.

Well, why switch to HHKB layout if not for the aesthetics and also the functionality of it's key mapping? Going with an un-aesthetically pleasing and limiting (for some) layout is the worst idea for something that costs this much (or any custom for that matter).

Also how are you planning to keymap a split space HHKB layout for those arrow keys?

[nguyenhimself]

I asked ai03 previously (via insta) and was told the split spacebar is compatible with HHKB layout.

For WKL/HHKB split space, the bottom row will be limited to these layouts.

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I can't say they're the most aesthetically pleasing layouts, but I guess they work physically.

FYI, with that second layout, you essentially just solved one of the main reasons why people can’t switch to the HHKB layout: The lack of arrow keys.
Sure, it’s not 100% aesthetically pleasing, but it’s 90% there, and I think most will be fine with that.
I for one know that’ll be my preferred layout.

Well, why switch to HHKB layout if not for the aesthetics and also the functionality of it's key mapping? Going with an un-aesthetically pleasing and limiting (for some) layout is the worst idea for something that costs this much (or any custom for that matter).

Also how are you planning to keymap a split space HHKB layout for those arrow keys?

See those four keys on the right? The T shape?
Yep.
I assume there wills still be a split right shift. If not, we can always remap the Caps Lock key. Easy.
Re. the aesthetic, well for me it’s the blockers on either sides that form the HHKB aesthetic. If I can have that AND arrow keys, I’m game to compromise a bit.
Yes, I need the arrow keys. I use my keyboard for more than just typing.
Fn + HJKL is fine until you need to hit combos like Fn + Shift + Alt + HJKL, then you start to run into hand twisting problems.
And nobody is forcing you to use that layout. Just leave it as an option for people who don’t mind it.

[vafan]

I`m in

[dededecline]

I asked ai03 previously (via insta) and was told the split spacebar is compatible with HHKB layout.

For WKL/HHKB split space, the bottom row will be limited to these layouts.

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I feel like people undervalue using WASD or IJKL for arrow keys. Not having to move my hands to use arrows has been such a great benefit.

I can't say they're the most aesthetically pleasing layouts, but I guess they work physically.

FYI, with that second layout, you essentially just solved one of the main reasons why people can’t switch to the HHKB layout: The lack of arrow keys.
Sure, it’s not 100% aesthetically pleasing, but it’s 90% there, and I think most will be fine with that.
I for one know that’ll be my preferred layout.

[Laiain]

Definitely in

[funderburker]

I asked ai03 previously (via insta) and was told the split spacebar is compatible with HHKB layout.

For WKL/HHKB split space, the bottom row will be limited to these layouts.

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I can't say they're the most aesthetically pleasing layouts, but I guess they work physically.

FYI, with that second layout, you essentially just solved one of the main reasons why people can’t switch to the HHKB layout: The lack of arrow keys.
Sure, it’s not 100% aesthetically pleasing, but it’s 90% there, and I think most will be fine with that.
I for one know that’ll be my preferred layout.

Well, why switch to HHKB layout if not for the aesthetics and also the functionality of it's key mapping? Going with an un-aesthetically pleasing and limiting (for some) layout is the worst idea for something that costs this much (or any custom for that matter).

Also how are you planning to keymap a split space HHKB layout for those arrow keys?

See those four keys on the right? The T shape?
Yep.
I assume there wills still be a split right shift. If not, we can always remap the Caps Lock key. Easy.
Re. the aesthetic, well for me it’s the blockers on either sides that form the HHKB aesthetic. If I can have that AND arrow keys, I’m game to compromise a bit.
Yes, I need the arrow keys. I use my keyboard for more than just typing.
Fn + HJKL is fine until you need to hit combos like Fn + Shift + Alt + HJKL, then you start to run into hand twisting problems.
And nobody is forcing you to use that layout. Just leave it as an option for people who don’t mind it.

Well, to each his own. I'm not again your opinion so if that works for you, great. It just doesn't for me. 

[ai03]

E-yellow with brass plate and weight.




Poly photos will be posted once they are confirmed functional.

[Visionaire]

ITS HAPPENING

[Solotov]

LOVE IT 

[ai03]

One more photo that showcases the e-yellow color.

[jonowarren94]

Thats nice! Will plate files be available after the GB?

[jives]

One more photo that showcases the e-yellow color.

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This looks awesome, can't wait!

[ai03]

Thats nice! Will plate files be available after the GB?

I'll try to open source the PCB and plate files before the product ships, hopefully some time during the GB phase or very early after it closes.

[hyppialonso]

Once the prototypes are confirmed functional, the GB will kick-off very soon, right? So can I now be anticipated for the coming GB ? )))))

[jonowarren94]

Once the prototypes are confirmed functional, the GB will kick-off very soon, right? So can I now be anticipated for the coming GB ? )))))

So this wont support 'regular 60% pcbs?

EDIT: Found my answer earlier on thanks.

[PoohGom]

One more photo that showcases the e-yellow color.

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OOF. I did not know an E-Yellow color was an option, I was interested in this keyboard before, but now I am definitely going to get the E-Yellow. Thank you for the update!

[donkey]

> OOF. I did not know an E-Yellow color was an option, I was interested in this keyboard before, but now I am definitely going to get the E-Yellow. Thank you for the update!

KBDfans just started selling E-Yellow Tofu so maybe that's why. Hope E-Yellow Polaris doesn't cost extra like Tofu version.

[funderburker]

> OOF. I did not know an E-Yellow color was an option, I was interested in this keyboard before, but now I am definitely going to get the E-Yellow. Thank you for the update!

KBDfans just started selling E-Yellow Tofu so maybe that's why. Hope E-Yellow Polaris doesn't cost extra like Tofu version.

Anodizing and E-coating are two different ways of surface finish so there's different costs for doing that. Possibly fail rates or smth. Polaris has a great price anyway so paying extra for an E-coated one would still be worth it more than paying extra for a Tofu (not a bad starter board, no offence).

[cyriously]

Also oof. I always wanted yellow case. As soon as Tofu E-Yellow in stock, I bought it. I should have waited for this.

Sorry for this, but has anyone seen WKL with split space layout? I remember I saw it somewhere.... Scrolled through the thread pages but didn't see it. Or it was just in my dream @_@

[fractl]

Also oof. I always wanted yellow case. As soon as Tofu E-Yellow in stock, I bought it. I should have waited for this.

Sorry for this, but has anyone seen WKL with split space layout? I remember I saw it somewhere.... Scrolled through the thread pages but didn't see it. Or it was just in my dream @_@

Scroll up this page for the WKL split spacebar layout.

[funderburker]

Also oof. I always wanted yellow case. As soon as Tofu E-Yellow in stock, I bought it. I should have waited for this.

Sorry for this, but has anyone seen WKL with split space layout? I remember I saw it somewhere.... Scrolled through the thread pages but didn't see it. Or it was just in my dream @_@

Literally second post in this page.

[cyriously]

Also oof. I always wanted yellow case. As soon as Tofu E-Yellow in stock, I bought it. I should have waited for this.

Sorry for this, but has anyone seen WKL with split space layout? I remember I saw it somewhere.... Scrolled through the thread pages but didn't see it. Or it was just in my dream @_@

Scroll up this page for the WKL split spacebar layout.

Also oof. I always wanted yellow case. As soon as Tofu E-Yellow in stock, I bought it. I should have waited for this.

Sorry for this, but has anyone seen WKL with split space layout? I remember I saw it somewhere.... Scrolled through the thread pages but didn't see it. Or it was just in my dream @_@

Literally second post in this page.

dum dum, checked all pages, didn't checked the last one, thanks

[donkey]

Tofu's thinner side bezels bugged me more than I thought but I guess it's too late to complain.

[ai03]

Hope E-Yellow Polaris doesn't cost extra like Tofu version.

It will.
E-coatings cost significantly more than anodizing.

[pixelpusher]

The prototype looks great.  Good work, man.  Any plans to put some switches and caps on it for more photos in the near future? Looking forward to the group buy. 

[mr.squishy]

Are there any renders for the Olive Green Color? I can't seem to find any.

[ddnomad]

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Ahh, I though it would be more like olive green LSJ Ares.

Too bad, that color won’t much GMK Olive I guess.

[ai03]

After some consideration, we will likely be adding the following options:

- E-yellow cases
- FR4 plates
- Another brass finish (for weight and plate) which will be announced in the near future

[Ivanddt]

I don't think I've seen any blue grey options on any of the KBDfans cases. Is it just a naming thing, or is this a new colour?

[pixelpusher]

I don't think I've seen any blue grey options on any of the KBDfans cases. Is it just a naming thing, or is this a new colour?

Yeah, I'd like to know as well.  I was assuming it was their "blue" color they use on the tofu and other new boards

[vi0till]

I assume there will be new price revision?

After some consideration, we will likely be adding the following options:

- E-yellow cases
- FR4 plates
- Another brass finish (for weight and plate) which will be announced in the near future

[ai03]

I assume there will be new price revision?

E-coatings and such that cost more to produce will be a bit more expensive, but for the default aluminum case, price will be as stated originally.

[vi0till]

Sweet!!  waiting for GB then

I assume there will be new price revision?

E-coatings and such that cost more to produce will be a bit more expensive, but for the default aluminum case, price will be as stated originally.

[KawabataLuis]

I hope I don't go to through the dilemma of colors. Waiting for the PC proto 

[nguyenhimself]

I hope I don't go to through the dilemma of colors. Waiting for the PC proto 

PC still? Even after this post from OP?

To be absolutely honest, I discourage people from buying the poly case option.

I designed the board around aluminum levels of structural integrity; the lid has thin portions where it is sandwiched between the top and the weight.
We will be testing a poly lid to make sure it achieves the required levels of durability, but it is undeniable that it will be weaker than aluminum.
Polycarbonate threads are far more prone to stripping from overtightening screws, and the material scratches far easier.
The absolute mess of gaskets and foam on the interior will be visible.
Poly is known to yellow due to exposure to UV light. After many years, the board that was paid premium for may not look too pretty.

[The_Royal]

THAT'S WHAT E-YELLOW LOOKS LIKE!?!?

That looks incredible.  Reminds me of those older kitchen appliances that used a similar color, but powder coated probably of course.



That will 100% be my color choice!  Can't wait for this deal!

[Digitize]

How I feel after the prototype photo. In my head I am totally in for the e-white to go with the Kurt Shiro set once it ships.



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[KawabataLuis]

I hope I don't go to through the dilemma of colors. Waiting for the PC proto 

PC still? Even after this post from OP?

To be honest, maybe. Will depend a bit on the prototype feedback and stuff. I kinda really like the idea of PC, and don't have any boards in PC. But i'm ok, still plenty of time to decide, but I definitely prefer to hear all the info before deciding.

[KawabataLuis]

And there are a few points actually.
"PC is weaker than alu.", well.. ain't that expected since its plastic vs alu?
"Mess of gasket will be visible.". Don't think I mind that. Will try to research a bit, but I really think I'm ok with it.
"PC will yellow with time". Wasn't exactly expecting this, but I do have a bit yellowed hhkb, and don't mind that much as well.

But with all of this. Still am thinking

[bobgr8]

Please run this GB after September!

[sevenseacat]

Another brass finish for the weight sounds good!

[ai03]

Please run this GB after September!

It will run as soon as prototypes are confirmed functional, so likely very soon.

[RubMyKoala]

After some consideration, we will likely be adding the following options:

- E-yellow cases
- FR4 plates
- Another brass finish (for weight and plate) which will be announced in the near future

I would kill for a Purple brass finish similar to the GMK Vaporwave Rama cap, unlikely I know. But one can dream.

[sevenseacat]

I would kill for a Purple brass finish similar to the GMK Vaporwave Rama cap, unlikely I know. But one can dream.

That would be sexy af.

[Mekberg]

Here’s a tip for future case prototype shots or general photos of the available colors: https://external-preview.redd.it/tuN1R4FhLu1Fv5Jy70hB9DaQ01qbgiaASVIzBGhXPV4.png?auto=webp&s=66ad93908067d4eb92e026ecc4dabc5aa77ecb9f

[realxmlforce]

I would kill for a Purple brass finish similar to the GMK Vaporwave Rama cap, unlikely I know. But one can dream.

That would be sexy af.

Omg yes!
But the case has to be made of brass or stainless steel (afaik) to make pvd finish to work. I would gladly pay for that though