Post by: sennin32 on Tue, 04 July 2017, 06:07:14
We got some cases left.
Please check it here : https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/001kba8fc-s (https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/001kba8fc-s)
Thanks for geekhack user TheEerieCold https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=63616 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=63616).
He tested several pcbs/keyboards.
I've updated report from him!
PCBs fit for this case without any modify:
Filco TKL
CM MasterKeys (From TheEerieCold)
QFR Plate + Phantom (From TheEerieCold)
KBParadise V80 (From TheEerieCold)
MK Disco (From TheEerieCold)
PCBs fit for this case, but have to modify:
Phantom (Need to add extra support inside, ie. paper, rubber...etc)
Quickfire Rapid (Only 1 mounting hole fit, but bent plate make the other screws work great, https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90406.msg2499317#msg2499317 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90406.msg2499317#msg2499317))
LFK87 with custom SS plate (QFR copy)(bottom screw spacers required, by TheEerieCold)
Deck Francium (need washers for top screws, by TheEerieCold)
Phantom with mechanicalkeyboards.com plate (needs bottom screw spacers, by TheEerieCold)
PCBs does not fit at all
Code, no upper screw holes (From TheEerieCold)
CoolerMaster QFRi (From TheEerieCold)
CM Nova Touch (From TheEerieCold)
(http://imgur.com/MlPCChu.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/MRTNH5A.jpg)
Update 170831:
Pic of reprocessed anodizing.
With all 4 colors!
http://imgur.com/a/O8GKg (http://imgur.com/a/O8GKg)
Update 170722:
Upload More pics : http://imgur.com/a/1LzJS
Update 170710:
Color reference : http://imgur.com/a/Zg8J0
Hi,
This is group buy for anodized aluminum case & separable cable for Filco TKL keyboards
Perfect one piece main body without cutting lines on the side.
And make cable become separable.
Price is $100 per set.
But boxing might not be decent one.
Just plain white or black box.
IC link : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89893 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89893)
(http://imgur.com/tE6krUj.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/cWHSOAv.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/Be0A58K.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/ulBBrAj.jpg)
Time Line :
7/4 GB start
7/23 GB ends
(I'm in Paris now, my colleague help me to check the sample. But I want wo confirm the sample by myself before GB ends)
8/31 Estimate shipping date
This case is design for Filco TKL ANSI layout keyboard.
We're not sure if it fits other TKL keyboard/PCB.
If there's any body in Taiwan want to test your keyboard/PCB.
Please send us message here : www.facebook.com/douystudio
Post by: cherpalla on Sun, 09 July 2017, 16:38:36
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 09 July 2017, 16:43:15
Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 09 July 2017, 17:17:49
Post by: sennin32 on Sun, 09 July 2017, 17:52:33
I still want to see a picture of the bottom before I commit. Thank you!Post just approved.
We've update some pic of bottom on imgur.
Update 170709:
New sample pics for bottom(Not anodized) :
(http://imgur.com/WRdE1yk.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/RkNV65h.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/3PKqFqW.jpg)
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 09 July 2017, 17:58:35
I still want to see a picture of the bottom before I commit. Thank you!Post just approved.
We've update some pic of bottom on imgur.
Update 170709:
New sample pics for bottom(Not anodized) :Show Image(http://imgur.com/WRdE1yk.jpg)Show Image(http://imgur.com/RkNV65h.jpg)Show Image(http://imgur.com/3PKqFqW.jpg)
Besides the question about the angle being the same as the stock Filco case.
Can we see some pictures of the inside of the case?
Post by: sennin32 on Sun, 09 July 2017, 18:04:00
Is it the exact same angle as the stock case without the feet?Hi,
I'm not really sure what you mean.
Do you mean will the design is exact the same as final product?
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 09 July 2017, 18:12:07
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 09 July 2017, 18:14:38
He's asking about the stock Filco case, not the design.Correct
Post by: s3vv4 on Sun, 09 July 2017, 18:16:38
Post by: sennin32 on Mon, 10 July 2017, 06:46:11
Any anodized samples?We don't have anodized samples now.
But I can show you some anodized aluminum plate/case we made before.
You might want to check here :
Color reference : http://imgur.com/a/Zg8J0 (http://imgur.com/a/Zg8J0)
Post by: sennin32 on Mon, 10 July 2017, 07:11:20
You mean the angle of case from side?He's asking about the stock Filco case, not the design.Correct
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 10 July 2017, 07:16:16
Yeah.You mean the angle of case from side?He's asking about the stock Filco case, not the design.Correct
Post by: codywanks on Mon, 10 July 2017, 12:38:41
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 11 July 2017, 13:01:14
I've tried to checkout with PayPal but there doesn't seem to be a shipping charge. Is it free or will it be billed later?Was also wondering about the shipping price.
Post by: sennin32 on Tue, 11 July 2017, 22:32:20
I've tried to checkout with PayPal but there doesn't seem to be a shipping charge. Is it free or will it be billed later?
I've tried to checkout with PayPal but there doesn't seem to be a shipping charge. Is it free or will it be billed later?Was also wondering about the shipping price.
It should calculate automatically :)
You'll see the shipping cost when check out.
Post by: sennin32 on Tue, 11 July 2017, 22:44:04
More pics : http://imgur.com/a/dZ5YT
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 11 July 2017, 23:53:22
I've tried to checkout with PayPal but there doesn't seem to be a shipping charge. Is it free or will it be billed later?I've tried to checkout with PayPal but there doesn't seem to be a shipping charge. Is it free or will it be billed later?Was also wondering about the shipping price.
It should calculate automatically :)
You'll see the shipping cost when check out.
Okay, I see it now. Takes a minute for it to load
Post by: sennin32 on Wed, 12 July 2017, 05:58:58
I've tried to checkout with PayPal but there doesn't seem to be a shipping charge. Is it free or will it be billed later?I've tried to checkout with PayPal but there doesn't seem to be a shipping charge. Is it free or will it be billed later?Was also wondering about the shipping price.
It should calculate automatically :)
You'll see the shipping cost when check out.
Okay, I see it now. Takes a minute for it to load
Sad.
I can not find reason why the extension's response time takes so long.
It should be just a simple sql query...
Sucks
Post by: codywanks on Wed, 12 July 2017, 13:53:09
Okay, I see it now. Takes a minute for it to load
Me too. Problem is, I'm pretty sure it could be bypassed (i.e. you end up just paying the $100) thus creating problems for the organizer.
Post by: odd on Wed, 12 July 2017, 23:34:46
Post by: sennin32 on Thu, 13 July 2017, 09:53:26
Okay, I see it now. Takes a minute for it to load
Me too. Problem is, I'm pretty sure it could be bypassed (i.e. you end up just paying the $100) thus creating problems for the organizer.
I think after accept auth.
It will bring you to review order.
And if you didn't select shipping method before.
System will ask you to chose.
After chose shipping method and accept again, paypal will get update.
You can try it and tell me about result @@
Due to paypal policy.
I can not try it with any card issue Taiwan.
(pp Taiwan account can not transfer any money to another pp account in Taiwan)
Post by: sennin32 on Thu, 13 July 2017, 09:55:16
Does this case fit people who have frosty flakes and Pegasus hoof replacement controllers? Is there clearances for Phantom builds using teensy controllers?
I don't have any 3rd controllers and Phantom PCB, so not able to test it.
If the controller is no bigger than origin.
It should works.
But about Phantom PCB, I know nothing about that :(
Post by: sennin32 on Thu, 13 July 2017, 15:19:05
All cases are awaiting for anodizing.
But I haven't get final sample and take more pics myself.
It's hard to ask for manufacturer to take better quality photos.
I'm not sure what's going on with the carrier now.
Any way, we should get the case this week.
And although in the interesting check, get almost 100 feedbacks, until now, permit to order quantity is way far from MoQ.
So I think we have to extend the GB time for 1 week to see if we can achieve MoQ.
And show more photos after we get final sample.
Hope that can solve many guys question.
Although we still won't have idea if it will fit other PCBs cause we don't own so many different keyboards.
If not, we'll refund those who've already paid and sell those cases for retail only :)
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 13 July 2017, 15:20:21
Okay, I see it now. Takes a minute for it to load
Me too. Problem is, I'm pretty sure it could be bypassed (i.e. you end up just paying the $100) thus creating problems for the organizer.
It doesn't, after you log in via Paypal, it kicks you back into the basket and asks you to pick a shipping method.
Anyway, I managed to place an order, it took bloody ages for the website to load, but I left it sitting a few minutes and everything went through eventually! Now we play the waiting game. Thanks Sennin for hosting this group buy
Post by: sennin32 on Thu, 13 July 2017, 15:33:27
Okay, I see it now. Takes a minute for it to load
Me too. Problem is, I'm pretty sure it could be bypassed (i.e. you end up just paying the $100) thus creating problems for the organizer.
It doesn't, after you log in via Paypal, it kicks you back into the basket and asks you to pick a shipping method.
Anyway, I managed to place an order, it took bloody ages for the website to load, but I left it sitting a few minutes and everything went through eventually! Now we play the waiting game. Thanks Sennin for hosting this group buy
Hope our business goes better and I can afford a full time engineer to manage and make custom mods for the site haha= =
Instead of use a expensive but slow ****.
I know only things about mobile apps, never develop any website before :'(
So not able to optimize it myself.
It takes damn long to load, I can't bear that as you do.
And have no idea why it takes so long to make a simple query.
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 13 July 2017, 17:20:05
Hi,Glad to see the GB is being extended a little bit.
All cases are awaiting for anodizing.
But I haven't get final sample and take more pics myself.
It's hard to ask for manufacturer to take better quality photos.
I'm not sure what's going on with the carrier now.
Any way, we should get the case this week.
And although in the interesting check, get almost 100 feedbacks, until now, permit to order quantity is way far from MoQ.
So I think we have to extend the GB time for 1 week to see if we can achieve MoQ.
And show more photos after we get final sample.
Hope that can solve many guys question.
Although we still won't have idea if it will fit other PCBs cause we don't own so many different keyboards.
If not, we'll refund those who've already paid and sell those cases for retail only :)
I kept thinking that it seemed like a short time for a group buy.
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 13 July 2017, 17:25:49
Okay, I see it now. Takes a minute for it to load
Me too. Problem is, I'm pretty sure it could be bypassed (i.e. you end up just paying the $100) thus creating problems for the organizer.
It doesn't, after you log in via Paypal, it kicks you back into the basket and asks you to pick a shipping method.
Anyway, I managed to place an order, it took bloody ages for the website to load, but I left it sitting a few minutes and everything went through eventually! Now we play the waiting game. Thanks Sennin for hosting this group buy
Hope our business goes better and I can afford a full time engineer to manage and make custom mods for the site haha= =
Instead of use a expensive but slow ****.
I know only things about mobile apps, never develop any website before :'(
So not able to optimize it myself.
It takes damn long to load, I can't bear that as you do.
And have no idea why it takes so long to make a simple query.
Hopefully we get closer to MOQ by the time GB close, because it's really a great price for the case.
In the case that we don't meet MOQ, how much will it cost later on if you sell them for retail price?
Post by: sennin32 on Fri, 14 July 2017, 04:40:31
Okay, I see it now. Takes a minute for it to load
Me too. Problem is, I'm pretty sure it could be bypassed (i.e. you end up just paying the $100) thus creating problems for the organizer.
It doesn't, after you log in via Paypal, it kicks you back into the basket and asks you to pick a shipping method.
Anyway, I managed to place an order, it took bloody ages for the website to load, but I left it sitting a few minutes and everything went through eventually! Now we play the waiting game. Thanks Sennin for hosting this group buy
Hope our business goes better and I can afford a full time engineer to manage and make custom mods for the site haha= =
Instead of use a expensive but slow ****.
I know only things about mobile apps, never develop any website before :'(
So not able to optimize it myself.
It takes damn long to load, I can't bear that as you do.
And have no idea why it takes so long to make a simple query.
Hopefully we get closer to MOQ by the time GB close, because it's really a great price for the case.
In the case that we don't meet MOQ, how much will it cost later on if you sell them for retail price?
I think will be around $130~150.
Depends on the cost for new box.
Post by: Blazestorm on Fri, 14 July 2017, 12:43:16
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 14 July 2017, 14:56:30
In for 2 (Blue and Grey)!, not going to build w/ a Filco but this plate looks compatible: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2551 and I have a PCB that's compatible w/ that plate :D (Not Phantom, so no Teensy sticking out the bottom)
Any Phantom plate should work.
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 14 July 2017, 16:18:31
In for 2 (Blue and Grey)!, not going to build w/ a Filco but this plate looks compatible: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2551 and I have a PCB that's compatible w/ that plate :D (Not Phantom, so no Teensy sticking out the bottom)
Any Phantom plate should work.
Yeah, I'm wondering how that'll work since a stock Filco plate has those bends, and phantom plates doesn't.
Post by: odd on Fri, 14 July 2017, 16:50:25
Does this case fit people who have frosty flakes and Pegasus hoof replacement controllers? Is there clearances for Phantom builds using teensy controllers?
I don't have any 3rd controllers and Phantom PCB, so not able to test it.
If the controller is no bigger than origin.
It should works.
But about Phantom PCB, I know nothing about that :(
Does this case fit people who have frosty flakes and Pegasus hoof replacement controllers? Is there clearances for Phantom builds using teensy controllers?
I don't have any 3rd controllers and Phantom PCB, so not able to test it.
If the controller is no bigger than origin.
It should works.
But about Phantom PCB, I know nothing about that :(
Well I have all 3 and would be willing to test them for you if you send a case my way 😄
Post by: odd on Fri, 14 July 2017, 16:53:50
In for 2 (Blue and Grey)!, not going to build w/ a Filco but this plate looks compatible: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2551 and I have a PCB that's compatible w/ that plate :D (Not Phantom, so no Teensy sticking out the bottom)
What PCB are you using?
Post by: Blazestorm on Fri, 14 July 2017, 20:25:47
In for 2 (Blue and Grey)!, not going to build w/ a Filco but this plate looks compatible: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2551 and I have a PCB that's compatible w/ that plate :D (Not Phantom, so no Teensy sticking out the bottom)
What PCB are you using?
It's made by the same guy who makes the VA68 PCBs: www.lfk78.com
He sold me an earlier prototype, but he's working on an IC/GB soon (as far as I know). Goes by ca178858 on reddit and GH.
Supports Alps and MX (PCB mount), RGB Underglow and in-switch LEDs (not RGB), and 2 RGB indicator lights (where the numlock/capslock normally go), and plate-mounted stabs. and he recommends pairing this mk.com plate w/ it. I think he said the next revision will have split-spacebar support.
These mk.com plates also support Alps so you're good to go, just need switches and keycaps and you can build a new TKL Alps board =)
EDIT: I asked ca178858 and he said it's alright to post some pictures of the prototype that we think should fit this case: http://imgur.com/a/x8O8w
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 15 July 2017, 08:06:02
In for 2 (Blue and Grey)!, not going to build w/ a Filco but this plate looks compatible: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2551 and I have a PCB that's compatible w/ that plate :D (Not Phantom, so no Teensy sticking out the bottom)
What PCB are you using?
It's made by the same guy who makes the VA68 PCBs: www.lfk78.com
He sold me an earlier prototype, but he's working on an IC/GB soon (as far as I know). Goes by ca178858 on reddit and GH.
Supports Alps and MX (PCB mount), RGB Underglow and in-switch LEDs (not RGB), and 2 RGB indicator lights (where the numlock/capslock normally go), and plate-mounted stabs. and he recommends pairing this mk.com plate w/ it. I think he said the next revision will have split-spacebar support.
These mk.com plates also support Alps so you're good to go, just need switches and keycaps and you can build a new TKL Alps board =)
EDIT: I asked ca178858 and he said it's alright to post some pictures of the prototype that we think should fit this case: http://imgur.com/a/x8O8w
I can chime in here, also bought a few of his PCBs in the past (and I've also got them TKL PCBs coming from him very soon! for use with this very case!)
He's a really nice chap, and knows his stuff when it comes to PCBs (likely lots of EE experience in the past). Highly recommended :thumb:
Post by: codywanks on Sat, 15 July 2017, 13:51:52
It doesn't, after you log in via Paypal, it kicks you back into the basket and asks you to pick a shipping method.
Anyway, I managed to place an order, it took bloody ages for the website to load, but I left it sitting a few minutes and everything went through eventually! Now we play the waiting game. Thanks Sennin for hosting this group buy
Yup you're correct. Put an order in for two. Hope the GB wait time is shorter than the website loading time. Heh heh
Post by: Ramiel on Sat, 15 July 2017, 20:06:59
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 15 July 2017, 20:34:24
It's out of topic but the green legend keycaps look pretty cool
They are indeed, very similar to GMK Royal Alpha. Anyone know where we can get these?
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 16 July 2017, 01:35:40
Hi,
All cases are awaiting for anodizing.
But I haven't get final sample and take more pics myself.
It's hard to ask for manufacturer to take better quality photos.
I'm not sure what's going on with the carrier now.
Any way, we should get the case this week.
And although in the interesting check, get almost 100 feedbacks, until now, permit to order quantity is way far from MoQ.
So I think we have to extend the GB time for 1 week to see if we can achieve MoQ.
And show more photos after we get final sample.
Hope that can solve many guys question.
Although we still won't have idea if it will fit other PCBs cause we don't own so many different keyboards.
If not, we'll refund those who've already paid and sell those cases for retail only :)
So when will the new official end date of the Group Buy be now, July 22nd?
Post by: sennin32 on Mon, 17 July 2017, 00:37:20
Does this case fit people who have frosty flakes and Pegasus hoof replacement controllers? Is there clearances for Phantom builds using teensy controllers?
I don't have any 3rd controllers and Phantom PCB, so not able to test it.
If the controller is no bigger than origin.
It should works.
But about Phantom PCB, I know nothing about that :(Does this case fit people who have frosty flakes and Pegasus hoof replacement controllers? Is there clearances for Phantom builds using teensy controllers?
I don't have any 3rd controllers and Phantom PCB, so not able to test it.
If the controller is no bigger than origin.
It should works.
But about Phantom PCB, I know nothing about that :(
Well I have all 3 and would be willing to test them for you if you send a case my way 😄
May I ask the area you're living?
I'll try send you a sample to test it :)
It doesn't, after you log in via Paypal, it kicks you back into the basket and asks you to pick a shipping method.
Anyway, I managed to place an order, it took bloody ages for the website to load, but I left it sitting a few minutes and everything went through eventually! Now we play the waiting game. Thanks Sennin for hosting this group buy
Yup you're correct. Put an order in for two. Hope the GB wait time is shorter than the website loading time. Heh heh
The loading time is horrible = =
But not yet find any way to optimize it.
I'll try update to php7 later.
It's out of topic but the green legend keycaps look pretty cool
It's out of topic but the green legend keycaps look pretty cool
They are indeed, very similar to GMK Royal Alpha. Anyone know where we can get these?
That's one of the sample from dye-sub manufacturer.
We might run a group buy for other color from the same manufacturer in the future.
http://imgur.com/a/CwxOH (http://imgur.com/a/CwxOH)
(http://imgur.com/nEukkHc.jpg)
Yup :)Hi,
All cases are awaiting for anodizing.
But I haven't get final sample and take more pics myself.
It's hard to ask for manufacturer to take better quality photos.
I'm not sure what's going on with the carrier now.
Any way, we should get the case this week.
And although in the interesting check, get almost 100 feedbacks, until now, permit to order quantity is way far from MoQ.
So I think we have to extend the GB time for 1 week to see if we can achieve MoQ.
And show more photos after we get final sample.
Hope that can solve many guys question.
Although we still won't have idea if it will fit other PCBs cause we don't own so many different keyboards.
If not, we'll refund those who've already paid and sell those cases for retail only :)
So when will the new official end date of the Group Buy be now, July 22nd?
Post by: nurupism on Wed, 19 July 2017, 15:13:36
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 21 July 2017, 11:30:35
I'd like to grab a couple of these before the GB ends.
Post by: s3vv4 on Fri, 21 July 2017, 11:48:55
Post by: sennin32 on Fri, 21 July 2017, 16:15:07
I want to change my ordered color, but you didn't respond yet, is it possible?
Do you have order #?
I will check it for you :)
Any updates on samples?
I'd like to grab a couple of these before the GB ends.
Updated: http://imgur.com/a/1LzJS (http://imgur.com/a/1LzJS)
Hi, nice to see that the group buy is being extended; I might be interested in getting in on this. Do you have an idea how much the case will weigh?
Around 1~1.5 kg :)
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 21 July 2017, 16:33:09
Post by: cruk on Sat, 22 July 2017, 04:33:54
Any updates on the numbers? I really would like this GB to go ahead!
I'd like to know too before committing, as I'd rather not lose out on conversion fees if it's still far away.
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 22 July 2017, 04:34:55
Any updates on the numbers? I really would like this GB to go ahead!
Would like to know this also.
Post by: bciamny on Sat, 22 July 2017, 10:07:28
Post by: sysfury on Sat, 22 July 2017, 13:42:18
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 22 July 2017, 13:44:07
Any chance this would fit an ISO Majestouch-2?
plate dimensions are the same, so yes
Post by: sennin32 on Sat, 22 July 2017, 14:01:45
Any updates on the numbers? I really would like this GB to go ahead!
Any updates on the numbers? I really would like this GB to go ahead!
Would like to know this also.
Any updates on the numbers? I really would like this GB to go ahead!
I'd like to know too before committing, as I'd rather not lose out on conversion fees if it's still far away.
Around 15 set short now.
I'll post update on reddit tomorrow.
I think it is highly possible to get MoQ.
And refund won't charge any fee I think.
sennin, is there a way to get an extra break out board with my order?
Mmmm... we didn't plan to sell the PCB only :(
Post by: sennin32 on Sat, 22 July 2017, 14:03:55
Any chance this would fit an ISO Majestouch-2?
I think the PCB is the same :)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 22 July 2017, 15:22:31
Any chance this would fit an ISO Majestouch-2?
Pretty sure there's absolutely no physical difference between ANSI and ISO versions of this particular keyboard aside from the layout
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 22 July 2017, 16:15:19
Any chance this would fit an ISO Majestouch-2?
Pretty sure there's absolutely no physical difference between ANSI and ISO versions of this particular keyboard aside from the layout
+1 They should be the same.
Post by: sysfury on Sat, 22 July 2017, 17:41:25
plate dimensions are the same, so yes
I think the PCB is the same :)
Pretty sure there's absolutely no physical difference between ANSI and ISO versions of this particular keyboard aside from the layout
+1 They should be the same.
Thanks guys! I'm ordering two.
Post by: sennin32 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 01:07:53
The only different is the software in controller I guess.
(Maybe the software is also the same!? I didn't spend much time to trace the PCB layout)
Post by: sysfury on Sun, 23 July 2017, 02:17:09
Do you think there are a lot of differences between these cases?
Post by: sennin32 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 04:47:57
Just saw this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Anodized-Aluminum-Case-Shell-For-Filco-87-Tenkeyless-Mechanical-Keyboard-Including-Key-line-separation/32617566709.html
Do you think there are a lot of differences between these cases?
Major different is that the case on Aliexpress is not angled case.
So they have feet include.
The bottom and PCB is slightly different.
Post by: wholypantalones on Sun, 23 July 2017, 06:54:03
If you open any Filco keyboards, you'll find that the PCB layout fits several different keyboards layout.
The only different is the software in controller I guess.
(Maybe the software is also the same!? I didn't spend much time to trace the PCB layout)
The PCB supports Japanese, ANSI and ISO layout only, but you need a separate plate to support each layout and a separate controller.
Post by: Stresemann on Sun, 23 July 2017, 07:57:04
Anyone know ?
Post by: s3vv4 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 08:51:31
I want to change my ordered color, but you didn't respond yet, is it possible?
Do you have order #?
I will check it for you :)
Sorry, took some time to find out the order confirmation landed in my junkmail, the order nr. is #000000970.
Thanks ;D
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 23 July 2017, 11:45:03
I am wondering if this case is compatible with Filco Majestouch Convertible 2.
Anyone know ?
Is that the one where the cable sticks out of the end, or is the USB port on the bottom somewhere?
Post by: sennin32 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 14:38:06
I am wondering if this case is compatible with Filco Majestouch Convertible 2.
Anyone know ?
I think it won't support Convertible ver.
The PCB size is different.
Post by: sennin32 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 14:39:28
If you open any Filco keyboards, you'll find that the PCB layout fits several different keyboards layout.
The only different is the software in controller I guess.
(Maybe the software is also the same!? I didn't spend much time to trace the PCB layout)
The PCB supports Japanese, ANSI and ISO layout only, but you need a separate plate to support each layout and a separate controller.
Right, I forgot the plate haha.
I found the bottom row also has several layout.
But I didn't check it carefully.
Post by: sennin32 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 14:41:02
I am wondering if this case is compatible with Filco Majestouch Convertible 2.
Anyone know ?
Is that the one where the cable sticks out of the end, or is the USB port on the bottom somewhere?
USB port on the size of case.
You can check it in the latest imgur post.
http://imgur.com/jg3RSYc.jpg (http://imgur.com/jg3RSYc.jpg)
Post by: Blazestorm on Thu, 27 July 2017, 17:46:33
You mentioned we were 15 units short on 7/22. And I noticed the GB page is gone.
Post by: punksinatra on Thu, 27 July 2017, 18:19:45
Post by: sennin32 on Sat, 29 July 2017, 16:10:33
Any extra cases? This is shipping from Taiwan?
Yes, Ship from Taiwan :)
Post by: punksinatra on Sun, 30 July 2017, 02:29:10
YAny extra cases? This is shipping from Taiwan?
Yes, Ship from Taiwan :)
Any extras?
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 30 July 2017, 07:50:00
YAny extra cases? This is shipping from Taiwan?
Yes, Ship from Taiwan :)
Hey Sennin can you update us on the MOQ situation? Since there was no notification of refunds, I assume we're still going ahead?
Post by: SBJ on Mon, 31 July 2017, 01:26:29
I'd be interested to know as well if there are any extra's available?YAny extra cases? This is shipping from Taiwan?
Yes, Ship from Taiwan :)
Any extras?
Post by: punksinatra on Mon, 31 July 2017, 10:54:44
Does the gray look something like this http://imgur.com/a/J4XX8?
If you have any extras for the gray please let me know. I am interested to get one
Post by: sennin32 on Tue, 01 August 2017, 04:37:14
Hi @sennin32
Does the gray look something like this http://imgur.com/a/J4XX8?
If you have any extras for the gray please let me know. I am interested to get one
Hard to tell from the link you provide.
Every pic look like different color due to light setting.
But I think it will be close to the color.
Maybe a little lighter or darker.
Post by: punksinatra on Thu, 03 August 2017, 20:21:50
Hi @sennin32
Does the gray look something like this http://imgur.com/a/J4XX8?
If you have any extras for the gray please let me know. I am interested to get one
Hard to tell from the link you provide.
Every pic look like different color due to light setting.
But I think it will be close to the color.
Maybe a little lighter or darker.
Ok thanks. Are you pushing for the groupbuy? Will there be extras? If yes what colors? Thanks
Post by: mnm on Sat, 05 August 2017, 18:12:13
Post by: bciamny on Sun, 06 August 2017, 00:28:55
I guess this is not happening. Too bad, since there is no word on a refund and no other communication I will start the paypal disputes.
sennin is a pretty good seller so i don't think you need to make a paypal dispute quite yet. the expected timeline was the end of the month for shipping to begin and paypal protection exists for 6 months from what i understand.
i think he has placed the order and will sell additional units for a markup through his store. although it would be nice if he could confirm in this thread :)
Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 06 August 2017, 00:59:00
I guess this is not happening. Too bad, since there is no word on a refund and no other communication I will start the paypal disputes.
He's pretty good. I bought switches from him and it was the quickest GB.
Post by: mnm on Sun, 06 August 2017, 03:56:08
Post by: sennin32 on Sun, 06 August 2017, 17:09:36
We're processing this GB @@
The case is doing anodizing now.
Sorry for let you misunderstand.
Post by: Blazestorm on Sun, 06 August 2017, 17:13:16
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 06 August 2017, 20:48:38
Hi,
We're processing this GB @@
The case is doing anodizing now.
Sorry for let you misunderstand.
You did mention that these will be available on your website for purchase after the GB, correct ?
Post by: mnm on Mon, 07 August 2017, 02:44:54
Post by: punksinatra on Mon, 07 August 2017, 13:33:55
Hi,
We're processing this GB @@
The case is doing anodizing now.
Sorry for let you misunderstand.
You did mention that these will be available on your website for purchase after the GB, correct ?
What is his website address?
@Sennin
I saw a post from you about having 15 sets to meet MOQ.. Just like to confirm if there will be extras in gray color. Thanks
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 07 August 2017, 17:09:00
Hi,
We're processing this GB @@
The case is doing anodizing now.
Sorry for let you misunderstand.
You did mention that these will be available on your website for purchase after the GB, correct ?
Doyu studio, same site you order the GB items from
What is his website address?
@Sennin
I saw a post from you about having 15 sets to meet MOQ.. Just like to confirm if there will be extras in gray color. Thanks
Post by: gr4v3m4n on Tue, 08 August 2017, 03:52:36
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 08 August 2017, 05:36:00
any confirmation about the fit for phantom plate and pcb?? where to join this gb anyway? went to doyustudio website and theres no link.
Group buy ended. You missed it by 2 weeks
Post by: gr4v3m4n on Tue, 08 August 2017, 05:57:37
any confirmation about the fit for phantom plate and pcb?? where to join this gb anyway? went to doyustudio website and theres no link.
Group buy ended. You missed it by 2 weeks
i see, any chance sennin going to sell it in his website?
Post by: sennin32 on Sun, 13 August 2017, 11:48:04
any confirmation about the fit for phantom plate and pcb?? where to join this gb anyway? went to doyustudio website and theres no link.
It's ended @@
We'll list on our site after ship all orders.
Post by: sennin32 on Wed, 16 August 2017, 08:08:28
Anodizing is finished today.
(http://imgur.com/XPGfK1B.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/AaVHTtA.jpg)
But there's some defect for some cases, we've send it back to process again.
(http://imgur.com/NoXlx7R.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/WiO3ZqO.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/YHneadz.jpg)
Post by: cruk on Wed, 16 August 2017, 08:15:34
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Post by: sennin32 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 00:19:55
We'll check them all and take some pic in next few days!
Post by: Blazestorm on Mon, 28 August 2017, 02:47:52
Got all the parts ordered for 3 of these, just waiting on PCBs and the cases to arrive... =)
Post by: joey on Mon, 28 August 2017, 03:25:45
Post by: sennin32 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 03:06:36
Pic of reprocessed anodizing.
With all 4 colors!
http://imgur.com/a/O8GKg (http://imgur.com/a/O8GKg)
Post by: Blazestorm on Fri, 01 September 2017, 10:20:50
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 01 September 2017, 12:22:35
Post by: cruk on Fri, 01 September 2017, 19:41:21
Update :
Pic of reprocessed anodizing.
With all 4 colors!
http://imgur.com/a/O8GKg (http://imgur.com/a/O8GKg)
Is it just the photos or does the black have uneven anodising?
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 01 September 2017, 21:33:13
Update :
Pic of reprocessed anodizing.
With all 4 colors!
http://imgur.com/a/O8GKg (http://imgur.com/a/O8GKg)
Is it just the photos or does the black have uneven anodising?
I hope it's just finger smudges as I've ordered a black one..
Post by: Cotay on Sat, 02 September 2017, 14:19:50
If that is correct, I've seen this method of holding the plate/pcb before in the MKC Geekey 87A. That's interesting because the MKC Geekey 87a shares its PCB and plate design with the Ganss GS87 and Noppoo Mid 87, which are also rumored to fit in a Filco case.
I have an MKC Geekey 87a (non-working) and a Ganss GS87 on order (to donate parts into the MKC case). I'm almost willing to order this case when it is available in the Doyu store just to try and confirm. At the very least, if it doesn't work I'll have an excuse to buy a Filco finally. :)
Post by: gr4v3m4n on Sat, 02 September 2017, 18:38:26
Post by: wholypantalones on Sat, 02 September 2017, 20:25:32
will the case fit phantom pcb and plate??
I'll let you know once mine gets here.
Post by: Sempre on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:25:50
will the case fit phantom pcb and plate??
I'll let you know once mine gets here.
Thank you. I'll also be awaiting conformation.
Post by: sennin32 on Mon, 04 September 2017, 07:29:02
Are these possibly shipping soon, or are we still at the end of September?
All finished,
But we have to check every one before shipping :)
Will finish that this week.
Update :
Pic of reprocessed anodizing.
With all 4 colors!
http://imgur.com/a/O8GKg (http://imgur.com/a/O8GKg)
Is it just the photos or does the black have uneven anodising?
It is because of light :)
Post by: sennin32 on Mon, 04 September 2017, 07:43:54
From the looks of this, it seems that the PCB/plate is being attached to the case with through PCB/plate screws into the gap between the F-row and the Num-row. I can't tell from the pictures, but it would seem then that the bottom of the plate/pcb must be secured with some tabs (or screws with a lip) that lip over the lower part of the plate to hold it in the case.
If that is correct, I've seen this method of holding the plate/pcb before in the MKC Geekey 87A. That's interesting because the MKC Geekey 87a shares its PCB and plate design with the Ganss GS87 and Noppoo Mid 87, which are also rumored to fit in a Filco case.
I have an MKC Geekey 87a (non-working) and a Ganss GS87 on order (to donate parts into the MKC case). I'm almost willing to order this case when it is available in the Doyu store just to try and confirm. At the very least, if it doesn't work I'll have an excuse to buy a Filco finally. :)
Basically you got it!
The only screw position we can use is those 2 near F row.
There's no other mounting point on origin Filco Keyboards.
In order to prevent the unstable of PCB.
There's 2 extra screw position on the bottom of the case.
And it will hold PCB by screw and washer.
Post by: sennin32 on Thu, 07 September 2017, 13:58:13
Every body.
Cases have finished, but got a layout issue on the separable module.
This makes the keyboard has no response after finished.
We've spotted the bug today and figure out what cause it.
The engineer made a mistake, usb pins are reversed.
Means, it should be 12345, but become 54321.
Trying to find cable that is reversed instead of make all PCBs again.
:eek:
Post by: Blazestorm on Thu, 07 September 2017, 14:04:15
Post by: codywanks on Thu, 07 September 2017, 18:37:02
You might be able to do it manually if you just pop out the pins and swap them around
I pity the poor sod who has to do it for all 80 (?) orders :blank:
Post by: Blazestorm on Thu, 07 September 2017, 18:52:25
Post by: sennin32 on Thu, 07 September 2017, 22:36:07
Might take a few hours. But might be better than re-manufacturing the PCBs and delaying it longer. I doubt any reversed cables exist...
If we can not find it, we might have to do that T_T
We use the cable similiar to the pic below:
http://www.ksdxl.com/product/20159/2015091178212161.jpg (http://www.ksdxl.com/product/20159/2015091178212161.jpg)
I tried to pop the pin out, but it's really tight.
Post by: Cotay on Fri, 08 September 2017, 01:08:17
I don't know which breakout USB board you used, but these can be customized by the end user: https://world.taobao.com/item/555092264486.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.675ba573ZflL0z#detail
Post by: sennin32 on Sat, 09 September 2017, 12:47:29
See if these guys can make it work for you: https://world.taobao.com/item/529129770382.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.675ba573GcOUi5#detail
I don't know which breakout USB board you used, but these can be customized by the end user: https://world.taobao.com/item/555092264486.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.675ba573ZflL0z#detail
We've modified the cables!
They works now.
Every PCB might has different definition.
For example, filco and varmilo is inverse.
Post by: Cotay on Sat, 09 September 2017, 13:33:03
Post by: codywanks on Sat, 09 September 2017, 15:22:09
I ordered an aluminum case for a Varmilo
do you have a link to that?
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 09 September 2017, 15:39:58
I ordered an aluminum case for a Varmilo
do you have a link to that?
Pretty sure you just email the Varmilo sales rep and order one straight from them. Her details is listed in the vendor threads somewhere. Failing that (or if you're too lazy to deal with emails, you could always wait until the next time they drop on Massdrop, it pops up every so often
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/varmilo-87-key-aluminum-case
Edit: Also found it here on aliexpress, no need to wait for MassDelay: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/VA87-VB87-Anodized-Aluminum-CNC-Case-CNC-Aluminum-Feet-for-Varmilo-VA87-VB87-Mechanical-Keyboard/32756038138.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10152_10065_10151_10068_10130_10192_10190_10307_10301_10137_10303_10060_10155_10154_10056_10055_10054_10059_100031_10099_10338_10103_10102_440_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10051_10324_10325_10326_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10179_143_10312_10313_10184_10314_10078_10079_10073,searchweb201603_17,ppcSwitch_7&btsid=2f3e4497-6d40-4a24-a642-73ff30a27703&algo_expid=9c0c0627-2031-4220-9ffd-c8a8f8a1db43-0&algo_pvid=9c0c0627-2031-4220-9ffd-c8a8f8a1db43
Post by: Cotay on Sat, 09 September 2017, 18:58:31
I ordered an aluminum case for a Varmilo
do you have a link to that?
Pretty sure you just email the Varmilo sales rep and order one straight from them. Her details is listed in the vendor threads somewhere. Failing that (or if you're too lazy to deal with emails, you could always wait until the next time they drop on Massdrop, it pops up every so often
Varmilo doesn't make an aluminum case for their TKL boards, on the VA68M. The only available case for the Varmilo TKL boards is a third party product (from YMD Tech).
Amazon has two colors (black and silver) currently, but note that it also ships from overseas. YMD also has a Taobao store in addition to their AliEx store mentioned: https://world.taobao.com/item/553673627864.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.675ba573L4buJL#detail Apparently only the Taobao store has all colors available at present.
Post by: codywanks on Sat, 09 September 2017, 23:08:59
Post by: Cotay on Sun, 10 September 2017, 01:29:58
@duynguyen: I already have several Varmilo cases, both from MD and Taobao, but none of them came with a breakout board. Which is why I was curious about Cotay's case.
Just to clarify, mine was ordered through their Amazon listing. I thought it was strange that it had the USB breakout board when the Varmilo already has one. I'm keeping it around for when I might want to modify a cabled board to have a removable cable.
Post by: kbdfans on Sun, 10 September 2017, 04:56:06
Post by: sennin32 on Sun, 10 September 2017, 20:44:53
@duynguyen: I already have several Varmilo cases, both from MD and Taobao, but none of them came with a breakout board. Which is why I was curious about Cotay's case.
@duynguyen: I already have several Varmilo cases, both from MD and Taobao, but none of them came with a breakout board. Which is why I was curious about Cotay's case.
If you open the keyboard, you can find the PCB :)
Post by: codywanks on Mon, 11 September 2017, 00:38:31
If you open the keyboard, you can find the PCB :)
I thought it was strange that it had the USB breakout board when the Varmilo already has one.
Yeah exactly this.
Post by: Blazestorm on Mon, 18 September 2017, 14:13:41
Post by: sennin32 on Tue, 19 September 2017, 10:12:37
We take several days to pack the cases.
Will send most orders this week.
But there's still some defect shows up in second anodize.
Most of them are black and blue.
So for orders in blue, might have to wait for few days more.
We take some pics today to show the color and how the case stick PCB steady.
Check all the pics here :
https://imgur.com/a/eQ8lE (https://imgur.com/a/eQ8lE)
(https://imgur.com/fPtZavb.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/a/eQ8lE.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/0CDQB63.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/DXtleAR.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/mFdf104.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/ROB0N0P.jpg)
Post by: sennin32 on Tue, 19 September 2017, 10:14:41
But for actual case, Gray is much darker than silver.
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 19 September 2017, 12:44:18
Any estimates on when they will be available on your website?
Post by: sennin32 on Tue, 19 September 2017, 17:45:37
Nice, I really regret not being able to join the GB for a grey one.
Any estimates on when they will be available on your website?
Will be this week.
Black and blue is not enough cause these colors is easier damaged.
More defect, we've send them back to anodize processing again.
Gray and silver will have some more extra available.
Post by: wholypantalones on Tue, 19 September 2017, 18:48:42
Nice, I really regret not being able to join the GB for a grey one.
Any estimates on when they will be available on your website?
Will be this week.
Black and blue is not enough cause these colors is easier damaged.
More defect, we've send them back to anodize processing again.
Gray and silver will have some more extra available.
I just want to make sure I understand this correctly; since I ordered a black case there's an additional wait for re-anodizing a third time?
Post by: jrfhoutx on Tue, 19 September 2017, 20:24:35
Nice, I really regret not being able to join the GB for a grey one.
Any estimates on when they will be available on your website?
Will be this week.
Black and blue is not enough cause these colors is easier damaged.
More defect, we've send them back to anodize processing again.
Gray and silver will have some more extra available.
So then will the grey and silver be shipping for gb orders this week?
Post by: sennin32 on Wed, 20 September 2017, 20:32:58
Nice, I really regret not being able to join the GB for a grey one.
Any estimates on when they will be available on your website?
Will be this week.
Black and blue is not enough cause these colors is easier damaged.
More defect, we've send them back to anodize processing again.
Gray and silver will have some more extra available.
I just want to make sure I understand this correctly; since I ordered a black case there's an additional wait for re-anodizing a third time?
Hi,
Not all cases, only some of them.
So most orders will be sent this week.
Around 1~2 orders will delay.
Post by: punksinatra on Wed, 20 September 2017, 21:23:57
Any other cases you have tried to fit?
phantom, ikbc c-f-mf, v80, code, kul-es, masterkeys?
Post by: sennin32 on Wed, 20 September 2017, 23:45:52
only filco was tested with this case right? so the old QFR that was made by costar should fit?
Any other cases you have tried to fit?
phantom, ikbc c-f-mf, v80, code, kul-es, masterkeys?
We don't have other PCBs to test :(
It is nothing to do with stabs.
Only PCB size and screw position matters.
Post by: codywanks on Thu, 21 September 2017, 05:11:57
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 21 September 2017, 06:56:12
Post by: sennin32 on Thu, 21 September 2017, 09:38:36
Will send all except 1 order next week :)
(Blue go too many defect... not enough to full fill all orders)
Post by: clasicks on Thu, 21 September 2017, 10:49:09
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 21 September 2017, 16:33:08
any extra or b stock for sale?
Any estimates on when they will be available on your website?
Will be this week.
I think that sums it up.
Post by: clasicks on Thu, 21 September 2017, 17:23:01
any extra or b stock for sale?Any estimates on when they will be available on your website?
Will be this week.
I think that sums it up.
Thanks!
Post by: sennin32 on Sun, 24 September 2017, 20:05:27
Here it is.
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:47:25
Excellent quality on the anodisation though, very nice and smooth and initial inspection reveals no blemishes!
Now to go and find a plate for this to use with my LFK TKL Alps PCB :))
Post by: Blazestorm on Mon, 25 September 2017, 14:43:20
Mine showed up today, I thought I got the Grey version but turned out it was Black :rolleyes: I must've selected the wrong option at checkout.
Excellent quality on the anodisation though, very nice and smooth and initial inspection reveals no blemishes!
Now to go and find a plate for this to use with my LFK TKL Alps PCB :))
I have 3 of these cases showing up today and I already have 3x LFK PCBs and 3x mk.com Phantom Plates to install in them. I'll let you know if they work out, I suspect I might need something on the bottom edge of the plate/pcb to fit better/add support underneath, but we'll see. The Phantom plates have cut-outs for Alps and Cherry but have an issue with plate thickness. It's about 1.5mm where the recommendation is ~1.2mm for Alps. They still fit and clip in fine, but some Alps switches will wear out if you install/remove them a bunch of times.
Post by: wholypantalones on Mon, 25 September 2017, 16:07:35
Honestly, there's still some machining marks under the anodizing and a small bump in the corner but I guess it's acceptable. No rubber feet or bumpons were supplied. Anodizing isn't bad, but it's not a $300 custom either. Kinda disappointing.
Imgur gallery review Phantom PCB test fit: https://imgur.com/a/wwcKC
Post by: DasGnome on Mon, 25 September 2017, 16:56:18
Post by: donjoan666 on Mon, 25 September 2017, 20:28:34
Thanks for your great work! Mine arrived today and it looks great! :thumb:
However, the package didn't include the USB module, connector and additional screws (basically the ziploc from the other picture).
Can I get that as well? Please let me know!
Thanks!
DH
Post by: clasicks on Mon, 25 September 2017, 20:53:37
I will have to look into crafting a badge to sink into the LED holes... :P
Post by: Sempre on Tue, 26 September 2017, 10:15:40
Post by: ullr on Tue, 26 September 2017, 14:00:08
I can confirm that it does work with a Japanese majestouch 2; except only the two screws towards the back of the PCB (when sitting like you use it) work so if you have really absurdly heavy switches that might leave too much flex. The cable does work and the case does fit though.
I am more or less happy with the case, I think the top surface should be a lot thicker though if I had one gripe.
Post by: sennin32 on Wed, 27 September 2017, 10:06:48
Got mine today after missing the mailman yesterday
I can confirm that it does work with a Japanese majestouch 2; except only the two screws towards the back of the PCB (when sitting like you use it) work so if you have really absurdly heavy switches that might leave too much flex. The cable does work and the case does fit though.
I am more or less happy with the case, I think the top surface should be a lot thicker though if I had one gripe.
@@
There's two extra screw holes on the bottom side (Side close to your body).
It is for adding screws and keep the PCB on the position without moving.
You can try that, will be much better.
Post by: Blazestorm on Wed, 27 September 2017, 20:45:30
Now to start building them =)
The mk.com Phantom Plate requires additional support on the bottom because the Filco OEM plate has that 90* bend which the bottom screws push against. A small piece of metal/acrylic/wood would work to fill the gap.
The mk.com Phantom Plate also has some small gaps on the left/right edges because it's just a little too narrow, I don't think you'd really see that much once the PCB and switches are installed.
And there were no feet, I guess because this case was meant to replace the stock Filco case, it was assumed you would take the feet off your Filco case (which I don't have). So now I'm looking at finding some rubber feet: 40mm x 10mm x 3mm w/ 5mm radius is what I think we need. I found a seller on Amazon that seems to do custom sizes and if he can make this size I might order a bunch and sell extras to anyone who wants some.
Weight for just the case comes in at just over 2.0lbs which is pretty decent.
First one built: https://imgur.com/a/BXHAd
(https://i.imgur.com/e3qgF7d.jpg)
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 28 September 2017, 07:58:02
https://imgur.com/a/Wkwi4
Now to start building them =)
The mk.com Phantom Plate requires additional support on the bottom because the Filco OEM plate has that 90* bend which the bottom screws push against. A small piece of metal/acrylic/wood would work to fill the gap.
The mk.com Phantom Plate also has some small gaps on the left/right edges because it's just a little too narrow, I don't think you'd really see that much once the PCB and switches are installed.
And there were no feet, I guess because this case was meant to replace the stock Filco case, it was assumed you would take the feet off your Filco case (which I don't have). So now I'm looking at finding some rubber feet: 40mm x 10mm x 3mm w/ 5mm radius is what I think we need. I found a seller on Amazon that seems to do custom sizes and if he can make this size I might order a bunch and sell extras to anyone who wants some.
Weight for just the case comes in at just over 2.0lbs which is pretty decent.
First one built: https://imgur.com/a/BXHAdShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/e3qgF7d.jpg)
Can you show the inside? Which plate have you uses and did you have to make any modifications to get it to sit securely in the case?
Post by: Blazestorm on Thu, 28 September 2017, 11:40:10
To fit the plate securely I just added a bunch of drawer liner under the PCB, so when you put the bottom plate on, it pushes the plate against the top case. Not perfect, but works pretty well I think. I can take some pictures later to show the gap that you need to fill to get the 2nd set of screws to fit. You could use a thin piece of metal/wood/acrylic that goes between the plate and the bottom screws. The two top screws fit this plate fine, just the bottom has a gap because it was designed for Filco plate/PCB
A second note about this PCB/Plate combo is the screw-holes on the LFK PCB are not large enough for the screws provided. So you need to install them onto the plate first before you start installing switches. I used some more scotch tape to hold the screw in-place while I went to solder. Alternatively you could just find some other screws that have a slightly smaller radius (this only applies to this LFK PCB).
So aside from the rubber feet, the next part of polish/improvement is lightpipes for the LEDs, the lfkeyboard PCB has RGB SMD LEDs for the two indicators, which is great, you can customize the colors, etc. But because they're SMD, the light isn't very focused. I used some scotch tape to diffuse the LED a bit. So now I'm also looking at getting some lightpipes from mouser or a similar place.
It also turns out my plate was bent a little bit so I needed to add extra padding to push the right half of the plate up against the top plate. Not sure if I bent it while soldering/installing, or if it was bent before. I'll check my other two plates later. Great part about this plate though is it supports Alps + MX (Just like the PCB) and if you're using MX, you also get switch-top opening as well.
I don't really want to take this one apart again just yet, the bottom plate is actually a really tight fit and it becomes a problem to remove it. Even if you unscrew all 8 screws, it's stuck in there with tension and you have nothing to access it with. I used a screw-driver through the top of my PCB (through another layout's switch cut-out) to push the bottom plate out. I knew because of the drawer liner all at the bottom.I wouldn't damage the bottom plate. But I have 2 more plates and 2 more cases, so I can take some better pictures to show the issue.
Post by: codywanks on Thu, 28 September 2017, 17:15:17
Thanks Sennin for the smooth run! I've got your store bookmarked and will check back from time to time.
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 28 September 2017, 19:45:57
I used the mechanicalkeyboards.com Phantom plate w/ lfkeyboards.com TKL PCB.
To fit the plate securely I just added a bunch of drawer liner under the PCB, so when you put the bottom plate on, it pushes the plate against the top case. Not perfect, but works pretty well I think. I can take some pictures later to show the gap that you need to fill to get the 2nd set of screws to fit. You could use a thin piece of metal/wood/acrylic that goes between the plate and the bottom screws. The two top screws fit this plate fine, just the bottom has a gap because it was designed for Filco plate/PCB
A second note about this PCB/Plate combo is the screw-holes on the LFK PCB are not large enough for the screws provided. So you need to install them onto the plate first before you start installing switches. I used some more scotch tape to hold the screw in-place while I went to solder. Alternatively you could just find some other screws that have a slightly smaller radius (this only applies to this LFK PCB).
So aside from the rubber feet, the next part of polish/improvement is lightpipes for the LEDs, the lfkeyboard PCB has RGB SMD LEDs for the two indicators, which is great, you can customize the colors, etc. But because they're SMD, the light isn't very focused. I used some scotch tape to diffuse the LED a bit. So now I'm also looking at getting some lightpipes from mouser or a similar place.
It also turns out my plate was bent a little bit so I needed to add extra padding to push the right half of the plate up against the top plate. Not sure if I bent it while soldering/installing, or if it was bent before. I'll check my other two plates later. Great part about this plate though is it supports Alps + MX (Just like the PCB) and if you're using MX, you also get switch-top opening as well.
I don't really want to take this one apart again just yet, the bottom plate is actually a really tight fit and it becomes a problem to remove it. Even if you unscrew all 8 screws, it's stuck in there with tension and you have nothing to access it with. I used a screw-driver through the top of my PCB (through another layout's switch cut-out) to push the bottom plate out. I knew because of the drawer liner all at the bottom.I wouldn't damage the bottom plate. But I have 2 more plates and 2 more cases, so I can take some better pictures to show the issue.
Thanks for the info!
Post by: sennin32 on Thu, 28 September 2017, 23:26:48
https://imgur.com/a/Wkwi4
Now to start building them =)
The mk.com Phantom Plate requires additional support on the bottom because the Filco OEM plate has that 90* bend which the bottom screws push against. A small piece of metal/acrylic/wood would work to fill the gap.
The mk.com Phantom Plate also has some small gaps on the left/right edges because it's just a little too narrow, I don't think you'd really see that much once the PCB and switches are installed.
And there were no feet, I guess because this case was meant to replace the stock Filco case, it was assumed you would take the feet off your Filco case (which I don't have). So now I'm looking at finding some rubber feet: 40mm x 10mm x 3mm w/ 5mm radius is what I think we need. I found a seller on Amazon that seems to do custom sizes and if he can make this size I might order a bunch and sell extras to anyone who wants some.
Weight for just the case comes in at just over 2.0lbs which is pretty decent.
First one built: https://imgur.com/a/BXHAdShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/e3qgF7d.jpg)
Oh damn.,
We should provide the feet. totally forgot that.
For those who is hard to find the feet and looking for us to send you one set.
Please reply here/send us PM include your order #.
Post by: sennin32 on Thu, 28 September 2017, 23:29:10
I used the mechanicalkeyboards.com Phantom plate w/ lfkeyboards.com TKL PCB.
To fit the plate securely I just added a bunch of drawer liner under the PCB, so when you put the bottom plate on, it pushes the plate against the top case. Not perfect, but works pretty well I think. I can take some pictures later to show the gap that you need to fill to get the 2nd set of screws to fit. You could use a thin piece of metal/wood/acrylic that goes between the plate and the bottom screws. The two top screws fit this plate fine, just the bottom has a gap because it was designed for Filco plate/PCB
A second note about this PCB/Plate combo is the screw-holes on the LFK PCB are not large enough for the screws provided. So you need to install them onto the plate first before you start installing switches. I used some more scotch tape to hold the screw in-place while I went to solder. Alternatively you could just find some other screws that have a slightly smaller radius (this only applies to this LFK PCB).
So aside from the rubber feet, the next part of polish/improvement is lightpipes for the LEDs, the lfkeyboard PCB has RGB SMD LEDs for the two indicators, which is great, you can customize the colors, etc. But because they're SMD, the light isn't very focused. I used some scotch tape to diffuse the LED a bit. So now I'm also looking at getting some lightpipes from mouser or a similar place.
It also turns out my plate was bent a little bit so I needed to add extra padding to push the right half of the plate up against the top plate. Not sure if I bent it while soldering/installing, or if it was bent before. I'll check my other two plates later. Great part about this plate though is it supports Alps + MX (Just like the PCB) and if you're using MX, you also get switch-top opening as well.
I don't really want to take this one apart again just yet, the bottom plate is actually a really tight fit and it becomes a problem to remove it. Even if you unscrew all 8 screws, it's stuck in there with tension and you have nothing to access it with. I used a screw-driver through the top of my PCB (through another layout's switch cut-out) to push the bottom plate out. I knew because of the drawer liner all at the bottom.I wouldn't damage the bottom plate. But I have 2 more plates and 2 more cases, so I can take some better pictures to show the issue.
Thanks for report!
Seems the only way to support plates not come from filco is to add some thick pad in the buttom of PCB@@
Post by: clasicks on Fri, 29 September 2017, 09:27:21
I used some cardboard to get the plate centered in the case - just little equal sized buffers on each side along the inner case wall.
The quickfire rapid unfortunately has only one mounting hole on the f-row rail, so that did not work. I used some thick foam from a pelican case and sandwiched the pcb to the roof, which worked really well for now. I will eventually drill out the plate, as the PCB shares the same holes that the traditional filco uses for mounting. Should make it feel really solid - but with the amount of foam i squished in there i have no movement of the plate.
Only visual difference, no LEDS in the led holes. but this is OK as it just goes down to a black steel plate.
The included breakout board worked perfectly - love that.
Fit and finish is excellent - no complaints there!
Small gallery ( was mostly taking pictures of the artisans here... but this is the case!)
https://imgur.com/a/yRhXr
Post by: DasGnome on Fri, 29 September 2017, 09:32:02
I put my Quickfire Rapid in this case last night, worked out well. The bent plate worked great on the lower bout, included screws held it perfectly.
I used some cardboard to get the plate centered in the case - just little equal sized buffers on each side along the inner case wall.
The quickfire rapid unfortunately has only one mounting hole on the f-row rail, so that did not work. I used some thick foam from a pelican case and sandwiched the pcb to the roof, which worked really well for now. I will eventually drill out the plate, as the PCB shares the same holes that the traditional filco uses for mounting. Should make it feel really solid - but with the amount of foam i squished in there i have no movement of the plate.
Only visual difference, no LEDS in the led holes. but this is OK as it just goes down to a black steel plate.
The included breakout board worked perfectly - love that.
Fit and finish is excellent - no complaints there!
You weren't able to use all 4 case screws to secure the PCB inside the case? I used all the available screw mounts for my QFR including two in the F row, so that's weird...
Post by: clasicks on Fri, 29 September 2017, 09:38:06
As i said, the PCB definitely has the right holes - just my plate does not have the corresponding holes. Will honestly take 2 minutes with a drill press, just have to make a visit to my dad's place.
EDIT: This is what mine looks like (not my image, but same plate design) https://imgur.com/a/w1czs
Post by: sennin32 on Fri, 29 September 2017, 15:17:39
my quickfire only has a single thru hole on the plate, right in the center of the f-row mounting line. I guess mine may be an older one? You lucked out!
As i said, the PCB definitely has the right holes - just my plate does not have the corresponding holes. Will honestly take 2 minutes with a drill press, just have to make a visit to my dad's place.
EDIT: This is what mine looks like (not my image, but same plate design) https://imgur.com/a/w1czs
Thanks for your report!
Will it works fine with only 3 screw?
Or must have to make some modification?
Post by: clasicks on Fri, 29 September 2017, 15:23:17
my quickfire only has a single thru hole on the plate, right in the center of the f-row mounting line. I guess mine may be an older one? You lucked out!
As i said, the PCB definitely has the right holes - just my plate does not have the corresponding holes. Will honestly take 2 minutes with a drill press, just have to make a visit to my dad's place.
EDIT: This is what mine looks like (not my image, but same plate design) https://imgur.com/a/w1czs
Thanks for your report!
Will it works fine with only 3 screw?
Or must have to make some modification?
see above, for now i just use foam - will be able to modify my plate easily tho, thanks for the great case!
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 30 September 2017, 17:33:18
https://imgur.com/a/Wkwi4
Now to start building them =)
The mk.com Phantom Plate requires additional support on the bottom because the Filco OEM plate has that 90* bend which the bottom screws push against. A small piece of metal/acrylic/wood would work to fill the gap.
The mk.com Phantom Plate also has some small gaps on the left/right edges because it's just a little too narrow, I don't think you'd really see that much once the PCB and switches are installed.
And there were no feet, I guess because this case was meant to replace the stock Filco case, it was assumed you would take the feet off your Filco case (which I don't have). So now I'm looking at finding some rubber feet: 40mm x 10mm x 3mm w/ 5mm radius is what I think we need. I found a seller on Amazon that seems to do custom sizes and if he can make this size I might order a bunch and sell extras to anyone who wants some.
Weight for just the case comes in at just over 2.0lbs which is pretty decent.
First one built: https://imgur.com/a/BXHAdShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/e3qgF7d.jpg)
Oh damn.,
We should provide the feet. totally forgot that.
For those who is hard to find the feet and looking for us to send you one set.
Please reply here/send us PM include your order #.
I would like the feet! Sent you a PM with my order number.
Thanks Sennin!
Post by: ullr on Sat, 30 September 2017, 20:24:18
Post by: cruk on Sat, 30 September 2017, 20:33:37
Post by: Sempre on Sat, 30 September 2017, 23:34:50
Post by: edsucks on Sun, 01 October 2017, 06:11:24
I'd like some feet if you could add them to my order please. :thumb:
Order #000001443.
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 01 October 2017, 07:35:48
I've already PM'd you, but posting here to be sure.
I'd like some feet if you could add them to my order please. :thumb:
Order #000001443.
Sup Ed ;D
Post by: mnm on Sun, 01 October 2017, 15:04:30
Post by: edsucks on Mon, 02 October 2017, 14:57:27
I've already PM'd you, but posting here to be sure.
I'd like some feet if you could add them to my order please. :thumb:
Order #000001443.
Sup Ed ;D
Hey there Duy :)
Post by: sennin32 on Thu, 05 October 2017, 13:25:21
We'll send feet after received our order :)
Post by: clasicks on Thu, 05 October 2017, 14:14:28
Post by: Blazestorm on Thu, 05 October 2017, 18:56:59
Hi,
We'll send feet after received our order :)
Do you have pictures of the feet? Do they fit correctly inside the cut-outs on the bottom of the case? =)
Thanks!
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 05 October 2017, 21:01:06
if we got the case aftermarket, can we purchase feet from you?
I can get the feet and send them to you if not.
I'd like feet too. Order #000001070
Post by: clasicks on Thu, 05 October 2017, 21:02:35
Very kind, thanks!if we got the case aftermarket, can we purchase feet from you?
I can get the feet and send them to you if not.
I'd like feet too. Order #000001070
Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk
Post by: donjoan666 on Fri, 06 October 2017, 02:07:09
Post by: donjoan666 on Fri, 06 October 2017, 16:19:09
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Post by: sysfury on Fri, 06 October 2017, 17:10:17
The cases are looking good otherwise. Just a couple of nicks and dents on the black case. With some black marker I don't think it will be too noticeable.
Post by: s3vv4 on Sat, 07 October 2017, 10:58:20
Post by: sennin32 on Tue, 10 October 2017, 00:28:40
Could you post an image of the feet so that I can decide whether they are worth waiting for or if they are just the standard feet that I can get at a nearby shop for very cheap?
Hi,
It is just normal rubber feet.
I think you can get it very easily.
But we'll send it without extra charge.
Post by: cruk on Mon, 16 October 2017, 22:58:38
Post by: sennin32 on Thu, 19 October 2017, 13:33:52
Hey sennin, any updates on the remaining cases? I'm still waiting for my black case :)
Sent today!
Post by: sennin32 on Thu, 19 October 2017, 13:34:44
We received the feet today.
Will sorting them out and send them in next few days :)
Post by: Trente on Sat, 21 October 2017, 13:39:16
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 21 October 2017, 13:44:15
I am curious if there is any left over from this buy as I would like to assemble a smooth board with this good looking case
https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/001kba8fc-s
Post by: Trente on Sat, 21 October 2017, 16:18:10
I am curious if there is any left over from this buy as I would like to assemble a smooth board with this good looking case
https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/001kba8fc-s
Thank you so much! The original link seems dead so I wasn't able to find it
Post by: Trente on Sat, 21 October 2017, 19:08:47
In for 2 (Blue and Grey)!, not going to build w/ a Filco but this plate looks compatible: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2551 and I have a PCB that's compatible w/ that plate :D (Not Phantom, so no Teensy sticking out the bottom)
What PCB are you using?
It's made by the same guy who makes the VA68 PCBs: www.lfk78.com
He sold me an earlier prototype, but he's working on an IC/GB soon (as far as I know). Goes by ca178858 on reddit and GH.
Supports Alps and MX (PCB mount), RGB Underglow and in-switch LEDs (not RGB), and 2 RGB indicator lights (where the numlock/capslock normally go), and plate-mounted stabs. and he recommends pairing this mk.com plate w/ it. I think he said the next revision will have split-spacebar support.
These mk.com plates also support Alps so you're good to go, just need switches and keycaps and you can build a new TKL Alps board =)
EDIT: I asked ca178858 and he said it's alright to post some pictures of the prototype that we think should fit this case: http://imgur.com/a/x8O8w
I can chime in here, also bought a few of his PCBs in the past (and I've also got them TKL PCBs coming from him very soon! for use with this very case!)
He's a really nice chap, and knows his stuff when it comes to PCBs (likely lots of EE experience in the past). Highly recommended :thumb:
It's so nice to know this PCB fits the case, also wondering how much space will be remaining in case after PCB and switch plate installed. I am assuming the bottom of the case is more like a thick metal plate, so the case is pretty hollow. Would this case be heavy enough to sit tight on desk? And did any one had experience different sound on this board compared to those custom using similar switch and plate setup?
Post by: Blazestorm on Sun, 22 October 2017, 02:09:29
I'm going to get around to building one of these boards w/ Matias QC switches soon, once I get some time (have to get some keycaps that fit Alps)
Post by: Trente on Sun, 22 October 2017, 18:09:11
The PCB and plate fit, but there's a small gap on the bottom side of the board so the bottom 2 screws don't do anything if you don't add a spacer between the screw and the plate. I just used a lot of shelf-liner to fill in the "hollow" part of the case, it resulted in a really nice sound. It's much more muted than I'm used to, which I like. I added QMX clips and it's very quiet now.
I'm going to get around to building one of these boards w/ Matias QC switches soon, once I get some time (have to get some keycaps that fit Alps)
In the case of the gap at the bottom side, would some partially cut washer help filling in the gap to hold the plate (while not sticking out of case) ?
Also, very interested in your next build! Hope there could be some pic!
Post by: Blazestorm on Sun, 22 October 2017, 20:56:45
Post by: jrfhoutx on Sun, 05 November 2017, 21:50:24
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Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 13 November 2017, 17:05:37
Any news on shipping out those missing feet?
Post by: donjoan666 on Mon, 13 November 2017, 18:25:33
Hi Sennin!
Thanks for your great work! Mine arrived today and it looks great! :thumb:
However, the package didn't include the USB module, connector and additional screws (basically the ziploc from the other picture).
Can I get that as well? Please let me know!
Thanks!
DH
Hi Sennin!
No rush but the cable didn't arrive yet. Any news I could get? Thanks,
Post by: sennin32 on Mon, 13 November 2017, 23:49:48
Hi Sennin!
Thanks for your great work! Mine arrived today and it looks great! :thumb:
However, the package didn't include the USB module, connector and additional screws (basically the ziploc from the other picture).
Can I get that as well? Please let me know!
Thanks!
DH
Hi Sennin!
No rush but the cable didn't arrive yet. Any news I could get? Thanks,
I guess I missed your message.
Could you tell us your order#?
Hey sennin,
Any news on shipping out those missing feet?
All shipped.
If there's anyone does not receive before Dec, please pm :)
Post by: sennin32 on Mon, 13 November 2017, 23:51:03
Finally finished my build. such a nice case, thank you sennin!
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@Q@
Seems we should offer clear bottom plate :-*
MoQ...
Post by: donjoan666 on Tue, 14 November 2017, 03:30:51
Hi Sennin!
Thanks for your great work! Mine arrived today and it looks great! :thumb:
However, the package didn't include the USB module, connector and additional screws (basically the ziploc from the other picture).
Can I get that as well? Please let me know!
Thanks!
DH
Hi Sennin!
No rush but the cable didn't arrive yet. Any news I could get? Thanks,
I guess I missed your message.
Could you tell us your order#?
#000001097
Post by: Myoth on Fri, 24 November 2017, 16:46:03
Has anyone tried putting a Novatouch in this ?
You can't in the TEX case, and it's expected not to in this one too but I just wanted to be sure !
Post by: jrfhoutx on Sat, 25 November 2017, 13:07:33
Finally finished my build. such a nice case, thank you sennin!
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@Q@
Seems we should offer clear bottom plate :-*
MoQ...
Plate was made by Jordi Olimon ( https://www.jolimonkb.com (https://www.jolimonkb.com) ). He also cut one for me in frosted acrylic (diffuses the underglow a little better). You would have to ask him about MOQ for a group buy or to stock in your store. I will say whether it was intentional or not, the stock bottom plate is 3mm thick, which makes it perfect to replace with 3mm acrylic.
Post by: sennin32 on Sun, 26 November 2017, 04:32:56
Do we have a list of keyboards that actually fit this case ?
Has anyone tried putting a Novatouch in this ?
You can't in the TEX case, and it's expected not to in this one too but I just wanted to be sure !
I edited the origin post with the list.
Hope get more reports.
Post by: Blazestorm on Tue, 28 November 2017, 12:31:33
Thanks!
Post by: sysfury on Tue, 28 November 2017, 17:49:19
Post by: sennin32 on Wed, 29 November 2017, 22:03:00
I also got the feet/rubber strips the other day, but one of the packages only contained one strip. I guess I will have to find my own solution.
:eek:
We made a mistake T_T
Post by: codywanks on Fri, 01 December 2017, 11:26:33
Hey sennin,
Any news on shipping out those missing feet?
All shipped.
If there's anyone does not receive before Dec, please pm :)
Received the feet last week. Thanks Sennin. Not sure if you intended for the colour of the feet to match the colour of the cases, but mine do and I appreciate the detail :thumb:
Post by: Blazestorm on Fri, 01 December 2017, 16:00:11
Hey sennin,
Any news on shipping out those missing feet?
All shipped.
If there's anyone does not receive before Dec, please pm :)
Received the feet last week. Thanks Sennin. Not sure if you intended for the colour of the feet to match the colour of the cases, but mine do and I appreciate the detail :thumb:
They were all grey for me, and I have grey, black, and blue cases =) I just saw he posted red cases, now I want one of those! :)
Post by: donjoan666 on Tue, 05 December 2017, 19:42:25
I was wondering if my cables, and screws + bumpons are shipped since I guess others are receiving theirs.
My order ID was : #000001097
It's 2 month passing after I got the case and I couldn't even hook up my keyboard to PC. Please help.
Post by: sennin32 on Wed, 06 December 2017, 04:43:56
Hi Sennin,
I was wondering if my cables, and screws + bumpons are shipped since I guess others are receiving theirs.
My order ID was : #000001097
It's 2 month passing after I got the case and I couldn't even hook up my keyboard to PC. Please help.
Let me check the status for you.
Have you send us message about parts missing?
Seems I can not find message record.
If oyu send through email, you can pm me with mail address :)
Post by: donjoan666 on Wed, 06 December 2017, 14:29:33
Hi Sennin,
I was wondering if my cables, and screws + bumpons are shipped since I guess others are receiving theirs.
My order ID was : #000001097
It's 2 month passing after I got the case and I couldn't even hook up my keyboard to PC. Please help.
Let me check the status for you.
Have you send us message about parts missing?
Seems I can not find message record.
If oyu send through email, you can pm me with mail address :)
sent pm
Post by: Oatburner on Wed, 23 January 2019, 16:00:40
Post by: sennin32 on Thu, 14 February 2019, 21:55:27