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Title: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:01:41
OFFICIAL GROUP BUY THREAD (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=118133)

GMK Frost Witch 2

(https://i.imgur.com/XuNPyoh.png)

Hi everyone! Adam still loves Emilia.

After deliberation with the designer of GMK Frost Witch, megaforce, we would like to let you all know that a rerun of Frost Witch is going to happen soon! The original GMK Frost Witch run was over 2 years ago, and since there seems to be a pretty significant demand we thought it a good time for this set to be rerun. There are some pretty drastic kitting changes from the first set, as well as usage of the updated hiragana legends. We invite you to participate in this buy, and hope you'll enjoy it.

The GB will be running from August 19 to September 16.


Base
(https://i.imgur.com/zJX0EbK.png)

Novelties
(https://i.imgur.com/Yn4cLhH.png)

Regional Vendors (Proxies)
USA: Switchmod Keyboards
Europe: Oblotzky Industries
China: ZFrontier
Asia: iLumKB
Australia: Daily Clack
MX: Rheset
CA: DeskHero
UK: Prototypist
KR: Swagkeys


Vendorwide Pricing (will be updated as prices are given)

Switchmod Keyboards (USA)
Base: $135
Novelty: $30
Latin Addon: $60

Oblotzky Industries (EU)
Base: TBA
Novelty: TBA
Latin Addon: TBA

ZFrontier (CN)
Base: ¥969.0
Novelty: TBA
Latin Addon: TBA

iLum (Asia)
Base: TBA
Novelty: TBA
Latin Addon: TBA

Daily Clack (AU)
Base: TBA
Novelty: TBA
Latin Addon: TBA

Deskhero (CA)
Base: TBA
Novelty: TBA
Latin Addon: TBA

Rheset (MX)
Base: $3,099 mxn
Novelties: $679 mxn
Latin addon: $1,299 mxn

Prototypist (UK)
Base: TBA
Novelty: TBA
Latin Addon: TBA

Swagkeys (KR)
Base: TBA
Novelty: TBA
Latin Addon: TBA



Extra sale items

Deskmat

(https://i.imgur.com/tkuhW6T.png)
Artwork by @izzymelz

Hibi Caps Collab

(https://i.imgur.com/oBDGPbn.png)

These are some pictures that I've asked of from the Switchmod Keyboards discord for use in this IC. While the colors remain the same, the legends shown in these pictures will not be accurate to the legends that we will be using on the group buy.

(https://i.imgur.com/l0E8awN.jpg)
Picture by LDLag1

(https://i.imgur.com/wJDKhbe.jpg)
Picture by Idyllic

(https://i.imgur.com/MHMbpYR.jpg)
Picture by Hinkerbottom

(https://i.imgur.com/Jdrg5Js.jpg)
Picture by PacBear

(https://i.imgur.com/obWDjv7.jpg)
Picture by jr2417



I'd like to extend a big thanks to Adam, the designer of the set. Oblotzky, who did the renders. I'd also like to thank OneCreativeMind, as he designed the original novelties that we will be reprising for Frost Witch 2. Lastly, everyone else, there are a lot of you, thanks for the support.

If you'd like to keep up with this set and Switchmod Keyboards' future projects, my discord is at https://discord.gg/invite/8TkjXTr. Thank you!


Kit developments can still be made at this time, we trimmed down and modified the kits heavily but any worthwhile caps that we overlooked could still possibly be added - please let us know.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:02:17
reserved
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: of_sam on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:03:03
This is not an IC.

Now it is.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: LaserCrafter on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:06:24
Lol
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: spedywin on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:06:25
krel
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: xLeHoy on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:07:26
Gonna grab this for sure
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Qwapa on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:08:48
hi hinker
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: zekkin on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:12:13
Emilia daisuki
Adam daisuki
Krelbit daisuki
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: terokk on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:15:03
God I love Krelbit and the sexy work he does at switchmod and on his GH posts. And Megubeef making Emilia best girl again
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: bakuretsu on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:18:29
I love Emilia
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: vhaarr on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:19:46
hi hinker looks great what is price of base set pls
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Qarmaa on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:19:52
ok weeb
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: yafe on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:20:37
thank you for your patience Krelbit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: itsadrianyo on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:21:40
LESSSGO been waiting on this set for a while glwic
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Crooks on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:22:23
Excited for this!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Peter6109 on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:22:36
Hi. I don't see support for my ibm model f or beamspring. Pls fix
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:23:20
Seems odd to me to have so many spacebars but not include any 2.75u to go with the 2.25u ones.

Unless those 3.00u ones are mislabeled.

Checked the KLE, they are mislabeled, my bad. They should be 2.75u.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: akkigami on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:23:56
Created a Geekhack simply so I could support. Frost Witch is amazing!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:24:46
Hi. I don't see support for my ibm model f or beamspring. Pls fix

grandpa is pulling out the vhs tapes again and wondering why he cant find a vcr for sale
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: hali on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:26:10
why the 2x1u ctrl, alt gr, and excess of spacebars?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: B_D on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:27:14
Please add 6u space bars to base for hhkb. Other wise set looks great! Definitely in for a base.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Seunghyun Lee on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:30:22
reserved.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:32:09
why the 2x1u ctrl, alt gr,

we'd like to keep broad 1800 and tsangan compatibility, also adam likes altgr.

and excess of spacebars?

We trimmed our Spacebar kit from GMK Frost Witch, and reintroduced it into Frost Witch 2's Base, as well as the accents. The new base is an amalgamation of all 3 kits with more underused keys being removed.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: megaforce on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:37:32
Where we droppin
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: vhaarr on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:38:49
Will there be nordeuk this time?

edit: also 6u space pls
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: KeebOnMe on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:42:22
Appreciate you running the set again, definitely interested in this set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: NivlakN on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:48:22
mmm purple
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:50:31
Will there be nordeuk this time?

edit: also 6u space pls

unfortunately no nordeuk at this time. If the demand for 6u space actually becomes more visible we could probably add it - It's just that we never really see anyone use it aside from the 5 people who really like (true) MX HHKB.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Hinkerbottom on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:52:19
Nice work krillfish!

hi hinker

Hi qwoopa
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: EffectMoon on Sat, 06 August 2022, 12:53:06
Reserved
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: vhaarr on Sat, 06 August 2022, 13:01:00
reserved

also without nordeuk I won't buy (I've typed on blanks since 2008 so not that I need it, but ffs if there's going to be lettering on my board it should at least reflect reality), so -1 for 6u space as well :-P
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: pears on Sat, 06 August 2022, 13:02:11
(https://i.imgur.com/Yae9ois.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 13:02:30
reserved

also without nordeuk I won't buy (I've typed on blanks since 2008 so not that I need it, but ffs if there's going to be lettering on my board it should at least reflect reality), so -1 for 6u space as well :-P

Super understandable - I personally just can't swing it most times, with the amount of sales the nordeuk kits get.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: ankit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 13:03:26
unfortunately no nordeuk at this time. If the demand for 6u space actually becomes more visible we could probably add it - It's just that we never really see anyone use it aside from the 5 people who really like (true) MX HHKB.

There have been an influx of 6u MX HHKB boards recently (AKB Vero and Baul's Type-B) for which 6u support would be nice. Also we finally have good MX sliders for topre in the des option. Would definitely like to see a 6u spacebar option offered, especially since 1.5u supers are already being included in base.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 13:05:20
unfortunately no nordeuk at this time. If the demand for 6u space actually becomes more visible we could probably add it - It's just that we never really see anyone use it aside from the 5 people who really like (true) MX HHKB.

There have been an influx of 6u MX HHKB boards recently (AKB Vero and Baul's Type-B) for which 6u support would be nice. Also we finally have good MX sliders for topre in the des option. Would definitely like to see a 6u spacebar option offered, especially since 1.5u supers are already being included in base.

Oh. real? I'll give it a hard consider, need to research around a bit more, yeah?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: elongatedmusk on Sat, 06 August 2022, 13:17:16
Would love a 6u instead of extra accent colored spacebars, imo!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: SirShakes on Sat, 06 August 2022, 13:17:40
Where is the google maps key
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Bub on Sat, 06 August 2022, 13:19:20
unfortunately no nordeuk at this time. If the demand for 6u space actually becomes more visible we could probably add it - It's just that we never really see anyone use it aside from the 5 people who really like (true) MX HHKB.

There have been an influx of 6u MX HHKB boards recently (AKB Vero and Baul's Type-B) for which 6u support would be nice. Also we finally have good MX sliders for topre in the des option. Would definitely like to see a 6u spacebar option offered, especially since 1.5u supers are already being included in base.

Oh. real? I'll give it a hard consider, need to research around a bit more, yeah?

since you are going hard on spacebars, i'd add an alpha color 6u.

i personally wouldnt run that spacebar kitting in base.. but its unique for todays standards and your price is fine  :thumb:

glad to see this set come back. maybe ill grab a kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Razz1023 on Sat, 06 August 2022, 13:23:32
very cool keycaps!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: ThiccRice69 on Sat, 06 August 2022, 13:31:56
will definitely join the groupbuy for this, but any chance we can see a possibility for latin alphas as a separate kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 13:33:24
will definitely join the groupbuy for this, but any chance we can see a possibility for latin alphas as a separate kit?

The last time we tried Latin, in a market that seems stronger than our current market, it failed. We are hesitant about trying it again, we see very little actual demand for it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Kokaloo on Sat, 06 August 2022, 13:34:33
even zam has proper 40s now you're the one stuck in the past, gramps
Seems like you shifted from over including caps locks to bars this time
Your prime e picture is a nice way to showcase how awful this set will look on smaller boards
One off row key and four incorrect legends, but it is imperative this set has two stepped caps
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 13:40:18
kit change: we're gonna nix the accent bars and add 6u bars, please make your complaints heard or we're gonna run it down
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: megaforce on Sat, 06 August 2022, 13:41:02
who is puck
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: megaforce on Sat, 06 August 2022, 13:43:25
even zam has proper 40s now you're the one stuck in the past, gramps
Seems like you shifted from over including caps locks to bars this time
Your prime e picture is a nice way to showcase how awful this set will look on smaller boards
One off row key and four incorrect legends, but it is imperative this set has two stepped caps

thank you for your comment

we look forward towards your support in <60% keyboard sets in the future

have a nice day

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: ThiccRice69 on Sat, 06 August 2022, 13:44:45
will definitely join the groupbuy for this, but any chance we can see a possibility for latin alphas as a separate kit?

The last time we tried Latin, in a market that seems stronger than our current market, it failed. We are hesitant about trying it again, we see very little actual demand for it.


I understand this, as a lot of people buy this set as a weeb set and want the hiragana sublegends, but I feel that as Frost Witch R1 shipped out, a lot more people saw the colorway in real pictures instead of renders, and the set gained a lot of popularity, so hopefully this time around there can be more support for the latin kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: white_rabbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 14:00:49
You should add minimal 40s support to base. You only need:

R2 1.75U Backspace
R3 1.25U Tab
R3 1.5U Enter


Thanks! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Fraaaan on Sat, 06 August 2022, 14:08:02
why the 2x1u ctrl, alt gr,

we'd like to keep broad 1800 and tsangan compatibility, also adam likes altgr.

Nobody uses 1800s with full 1u bottom row. Even if they did, you need a 6u spacebar for it which the set doesn't have. IMO double 1u Control is pretty useless. I think a 2nd 2.25u Shift for 660-esque layouts, a 2u Shift for 60s with arrows or a double zero would be useful to more people.

Seriously consider adding a 6u spacebar into the base kit since you're trying to make it all inclusive.
Nevermind, you did it as I was writing it. Good stuff!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: OmegaZero55 on Sat, 06 August 2022, 14:21:56
Damn, I was hoping to get the accent spacebars since that's the only kit I don't have from round 1.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: benski on Sat, 06 August 2022, 14:38:26
Why remove puck's face from the novelties?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 15:23:40
You should add minimal 40s support to base. You only need:

R2 1.75U Backspace
R3 1.25U Tab
R3 1.5U Enter


Thanks! :thumb:

I will super duper look into this.

Edit: We'll do it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: dededecline on Sat, 06 August 2022, 15:27:28
This isn't an IC lol

Kitting is some real "throw darts at a board" energy:


I have no pretense that any of this will be changed in the two weeks between now and GB starts but figured I'd say it anyways.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Nuclear Nachos on Sat, 06 August 2022, 16:19:39
ok
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 16:32:55
ok

thank you so much i respect it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Sat, 06 August 2022, 16:42:57
You already know my opinion, but here I go:

What I wish for is:
- at least 3key 40s support; at best 4key 40s support
- xt addon; at best with uwu legends

optional, but I personally wouldnt buy:
- nordeuk
- latin
- relegendables
- r5
- accent sb
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 16:43:46
You already know my opinion, but here I go:

What I wish for is:
- at least 3key 40s support; at best 4key 40s support
- xt addon; at best with uwu legends

optional, but I personally wouldnt buy:
- nordeuk
- latin
- relegendables
- r5
- accent sb

you'll take 3 key 40s support and you'll like it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: alvrnicu on Sat, 06 August 2022, 17:22:05
Omg it's finally here! Finally I can get it without spending $300  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Druah on Sat, 06 August 2022, 17:23:36
[attachimg=1]
reserved
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 17:26:40
(Attachment Link)
reserved

i genuinely do not undestand please help me
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 06 August 2022, 17:27:07
Late to the party. I love Emilia.

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5f68da90297b94613c756dd6/db3c17dc-e928-42e2-bc32-5ba9e670ccaa/LXI03627.jpg?format=1500w)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: caap on Sat, 06 August 2022, 17:31:09
Why remove puck's face from the novelties?

IP and legality issues

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Hinkerbottom on Sat, 06 August 2022, 17:33:22
hi hinker looks great what is price of base set pls

hi vharr thank you so much took lots of work base set costs 69 schmeckles (reserved)

Late to the party. I love Emilia.

Show Image
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5f68da90297b94613c756dd6/db3c17dc-e928-42e2-bc32-5ba9e670ccaa/LXI03627.jpg?format=1500w)


not late to the party, i love lightning keyboards
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: IMZO on Sat, 06 August 2022, 17:41:21
Yay, my favorite purple set , i can finally get without paying flip
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: MSA_Vision on Sat, 06 August 2022, 17:45:20
[attachimg=1]
👍
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Aaronn on Sat, 06 August 2022, 18:05:58
no latin alphas kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 19:19:09
(Attachment Link)
👍

this was meant for diego and no one else
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: c0d3r on Sat, 06 August 2022, 19:58:51
missing R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 06 August 2022, 20:37:43
missing R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn?

We have opted to cut them in this run.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 06 August 2022, 20:45:26
no latin alphas kit?

Don’t expect em to be run, but if you did I’d go for two of em.

Thanks for running stuff Krel
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Bluejay on Sat, 06 August 2022, 21:04:42
Already mentioned to you on Discord, but I'll mention it here again for visibility:

Please consider keeping at least the 6.25u and 7u accent spacebars in the base kit instead of removing them completely.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: megaforce on Sat, 06 August 2022, 21:09:05
let me tell yall right now

no shot on god will there be latin alphas, additonal 40s keys (outside of the 3 1.xx keys added) , puck novelty, nordeuk, or relegendables  will be added.

please stop asking

c:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: c0d3r on Sat, 06 August 2022, 21:51:22
missing R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn?

We have opted to cut them in this run.

why? there are lots of 65% boards with top right badge blocks, these 2 keys are very useful on these boards.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: infinitum on Sat, 06 August 2022, 21:52:08
we love emilia
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: zhol on Sat, 06 August 2022, 21:54:27
seconded on replacing ⌫ legend on 1.5u backspace with ←
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: finalarcadia on Sat, 06 August 2022, 22:00:17
Good thing 6u is back, Matrix 3.0 60% is rumored to be true hhkb.
Also love 1.5u supers and stepped ctrl. GJ I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: BearlyAlive on Sat, 06 August 2022, 22:41:39
Any chance of having 1 of each r2 r3 r4 1u novelties? I think it's a great way to add flexibility.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: nonuser on Sat, 06 August 2022, 23:39:01
BRUHHH!!!!!! I JUST BOUGHT THIS SET SEALED FOR $800 FNF :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( Should of dropped the ic earlier !!  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Mecxs on Sat, 06 August 2022, 23:52:58
BRUHHH!!!!!! I JUST BOUGHT THIS SET SEALED FOR $800 FNF :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( Should of dropped the ic earlier !!  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

If you consider how long this set will take to ship, that's less than $1 a day to start using it now. Pretty good deal.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: megaforce on Sun, 07 August 2022, 00:40:47
missing R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn?

We have opted to cut them in this run.

why? there are lots of 65% boards with top right badge blocks, these 2 keys are very useful on these boards.

nah just use the numpad keys c:


seconded on replacing ⌫ legend on 1.5u backspace with ←


nah xbox backspace is country miles better than arrow c:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Riizmaa on Sun, 07 August 2022, 01:20:37
WEEBS ****ING ASSEMBLE  :) TIME TO PLAN YOUR WEEB BUILD!!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sun, 07 August 2022, 10:43:38
Any chance of having 1 of each r2 r3 r4 1u novelties? I think it's a great way to add flexibility.

It's possible - would probably add cost for everyone. I am not sure there will be any more changes to the novelty kit as is, I can consider it if there is ample demand.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: soundstage on Sun, 07 August 2022, 11:44:54
What is the ETA for delivery? Yes, I know this is GMK we are talking about, still an ETA will give confidence.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Ando on Sun, 07 August 2022, 12:09:10
Any chance of having 1 of each r2 r3 r4 1u novelties? I think it's a great way to add flexibility.

I second this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: ShogoMcD on Sun, 07 August 2022, 13:13:16
Damn, I was hoping to get the accent spacebars since that's the only kit I don't have from round 1.

I just heard of this IC just recently and looks like I'm too late. I also would like accent spacebars, even if it's just 6.25U and 7U bars.

Before smarta$$es ask why, I like accent spacebars.

Regardless, thank you very much for running Frost Witch again.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: TjarleN on Sun, 07 August 2022, 13:51:34
Didn't oblo say that he is not gonna run any gmk until they catch up? As far as I know that was the reason why Hineybeige moved to the end of the year.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Fraaaan on Sun, 07 August 2022, 14:45:33
Didn't oblo say that he is not gonna run any gmk until they catch up? As far as I know that was the reason why Hineybeige moved to the end of the year.

Oblotzky never said he's completely stopping with proxying GMK GBs, he's just slowing down until GMK catches up and lead times are more reasonable.

Also Hineybeige GB date was never moved. The first and only announcement made by Hiney stated November because that's when Novelkeys, the lead vendor, was comfortable running it. Nothing to do with Oblotzky.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Turnip487 on Sun, 07 August 2022, 14:54:40
would appreciate a consideration for r3 page up and r4 page down
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: twah on Sun, 07 August 2022, 15:22:39
I love Emilia
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: ThiccRice69 on Sun, 07 August 2022, 16:11:17
let me tell yall right now

no shot on god will there be latin alphas, additonal 40s keys (outside of the 3 1.xx keys added) , puck novelty, nordeuk, or relegendables  will be added.

please stop asking

c:


is their any chance for considering another alphas kit? like mono katakana/hiragana? I think sublegends make the alphas look cluttered and a second alphas kit can let people buy 1 base + alphas and use it on 2 boards
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: popkorn62 on Sun, 07 August 2022, 17:16:46
gib
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sun, 07 August 2022, 17:55:29
gib

ok thank u bobgorn92
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: megaforce on Sun, 07 August 2022, 18:28:58
gib

when we pullin up to sookdal or magal
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Mecxs on Sun, 07 August 2022, 19:50:58
What is the ETA for delivery? Yes, I know this is GMK we are talking about, still an ETA will give confidence.

The only thing you can be confident about with a GMK estimate is that it will be wrong. They have been late on 100% of their sets in the last 2 years. They would need to ship 66 sets tomorrow in order to catch up. At their current average of ~5-6 sets per month, that's a one year delay.

If the current rate of production stays the same, a set finishing today will ship in mid 2025.

If the current rate of production increases by 50%, then a set finishing today will ship in mid 2024.

If the current rate of production increases by 100% (doubles), then a set finishing today will finish in late 2023, which is the current GMK estimate for sets running currently.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: ChrisJoy on Sun, 07 August 2022, 20:42:48
GMK now has the longest lead time in the world. Joining GB requires courage and tons of patience.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: B_D on Sun, 07 August 2022, 20:46:24
What is the ETA for delivery? Yes, I know this is GMK we are talking about, still an ETA will give confidence.

The only thing you can be confident about with a GMK estimate is that it will be wrong. They have been late on 100% of their sets in the last 2 years. They would need to ship 66 sets tomorrow in order to catch up. At their current average of ~5-6 sets per month, that's a one year delay.

If the current rate of production stays the same, a set finishing today will ship in mid 2025.

If the current rate of production increases by 50%, then a set finishing today will ship in mid 2024.

If the current rate of production increases by 100% (doubles), then a set finishing today will finish in late 2023, which is the current GMK estimate for sets running currently.
You also have to remember that there is no color matching needed for this set. All these ETAS are (mostly) for new sets that need color matching which can take 6-12 months at least. We should be seeing this sooner than later because 1. Gmk is getting new machines from what I have seen on their socials which will make sets a lot faster and 2. it is already color matched and they just need to submit the order to gmk. Please correct me if im wrong!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: zekkin on Sun, 07 August 2022, 20:46:38
GMK now has the longest lead time in the world. Joining GB requires courage and tons of patience.

(https://c.tenor.com/Y7oYsf79vXYAAAAC/king-of-the-hill-bobby-h-ill.gif)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Mecxs on Sun, 07 August 2022, 21:07:55
What is the ETA for delivery? Yes, I know this is GMK we are talking about, still an ETA will give confidence.

The only thing you can be confident about with a GMK estimate is that it will be wrong. They have been late on 100% of their sets in the last 2 years. They would need to ship 66 sets tomorrow in order to catch up. At their current average of ~5-6 sets per month, that's a one year delay.

If the current rate of production stays the same, a set finishing today will ship in mid 2025.

If the current rate of production increases by 50%, then a set finishing today will ship in mid 2024.

If the current rate of production increases by 100% (doubles), then a set finishing today will finish in late 2023, which is the current GMK estimate for sets running currently.
You also have to remember that there is no color matching needed for this set. All these ETAS are (mostly) for new sets that need color matching which can take 6-12 months at least. We should be seeing this sooner than later because 1. Gmk is getting new machines from what I have seen on their socials which will make sets a lot faster and 2. it is already color matched and they just need to submit the order to gmk. Please correct me if im wrong!

It's all speculation, so nobody is 'wrong'. But looking at recent R2 sets, the average delay is ~176 days. By comparison, for R1 sets, the average delay is ~197 days. So we're looking at saving ~3 weeks.

GMK has been posting about adding new machines for over a year. The number of sets that they've been shipping per month has not changed at all over that time (4-7 sets per month, consistently). If I had to guess, I would suspect that most of the new machines are being used to pump out in stock white on black and red samurai sets for Drop.

Again - this is all speculation. But it's speculation based on a consistent track record, as opposed to GMK's estimates which have an accuracy of 0%. Just don't get too hyped up by the "it doesn't need colour matching" line, because all that means is that it's not going to be a blowout like GMK Nord or Dracula, not that it's going to bypass the massively congested queue somehow. The queue is not being held up by colour matching.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Yakizu on Sun, 07 August 2022, 21:14:43
count me in but wish it could come sooner cause I may change address by the time it ships
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sun, 07 August 2022, 21:41:34
Damn, I was hoping to get the accent spacebars since that's the only kit I don't have from round 1.

Whatever vendor you decide to go with - I'm sure they'll be able to accomodate you.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Nuap on Sun, 07 August 2022, 21:51:52
GMK now has the longest lead time in the world. Joining GB requires courage and tons of patience.


I think Keyreative has stolen their crown.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Jubileus on Mon, 08 August 2022, 10:48:37
Bring back accent bars!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: 3yatt on Mon, 08 August 2022, 10:58:25
In my humble opinion the accent bars add balance to every kit. Possibility of having a separate accent bars kit? Will definitely cop but will suck looking for these bars on the aftermarket.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: aruwu on Mon, 08 August 2022, 11:31:38
Would love to see 2x 3u spacebars for 7u split space bar support, because I am a general split spacebar lover. Possibly in a separate kit, maybe with accents too?
Definitely copping these either way, thanks for running this again!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: jono3160 on Mon, 08 August 2022, 11:41:52
I would like to keep accent spacebars. Not knowledgable in kitting process, so I don’t have solution suggestions. I just simply like the look of the accent bars. Would pay extra for a big boi base kit or child kits if you can make it work.

I know there will still be alice support even without the accent bars. Very grateful for that. At the end of the day, nixing accent bars for more compat is understandable.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: BrickParade on Mon, 08 August 2022, 12:39:37
Would also like to voice my support for keeping the accent bars, even if it means they'd have to go in a separate kit or something as others have suggested
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 08 August 2022, 13:48:39
Regarding accent bars:

I really have to say that if I had to choose between physical compatibility for more sets and adding accent spacebars, I'd rather choose to support more layouts than add extra flourishes for existing layouts.

At this time adding purely the accent spacebars could be a choice; however we are fairly reluctant to add more kits, especially considering that the climate towards GMK sets as a whole is colder.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Kokaloo on Mon, 08 August 2022, 13:56:08
Regarding accent bars:

I really have to say that if I had to choose between physical compatibility for more sets and adding accent spacebars, I'd rather choose to support more layouts than add extra flourishes for existing layouts.

At this time adding purely the accent spacebars could be a choice; however are fairly reluctant to add more kits, especially considering that the climate towards GMK sets as a whole is colder.

would love to have a time machine and send you back with this mentality
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: ShogoMcD on Mon, 08 August 2022, 14:39:57
I suggest looking for accent spacebars now on r/mm or where ever you buy aftermarket stuff before the sellers catches wind of its rarity. No joke.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 08 August 2022, 14:45:34
Regarding accent bars:

I really have to say that if I had to choose between physical compatibility for more sets and adding accent spacebars, I'd rather choose to support more layouts than add extra flourishes for existing layouts.

At this time adding purely the accent spacebars could be a choice; however are fairly reluctant to add more kits, especially considering that the climate towards GMK sets as a whole is colder.

would love to have a time machine and send you back with this mentality

that vegas heat must be getting to your brain
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: EffectMoon on Tue, 09 August 2022, 00:00:59
Bring back accent bars!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Bluejay on Tue, 09 August 2022, 05:07:39
Regarding accent bars:

I really have to say that if I had to choose between physical compatibility for more sets and adding accent spacebars, I'd rather choose to support more layouts than add extra flourishes for existing layouts.

At this time adding purely the accent spacebars could be a choice; however we are fairly reluctant to add more kits, especially considering that the climate towards GMK sets as a whole is colder.

Please bring them back, even as some separate kit. There's clear support for them. It feels wrong to have it in the initial IC only to be taken away with no alternative.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Evasive on Tue, 09 August 2022, 10:02:55
I wouldn't mind accent bars but not if it's going to raise the price of the base kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: JQ27 on Tue, 09 August 2022, 17:05:07
reserved

also without nordeuk I won't buy (I've typed on blanks since 2008 so not that I need it, but ffs if there's going to be lettering on my board it should at least reflect reality), so -1 for 6u space as well :-P

Super understandable - I personally just can't swing it most times, with the amount of sales the nordeuk kits get.

I feel like this is a self-fulfilling prophecy when often GMK NorDeUK kits often cost more than 50% of the base kit (when other manus are much more reasonable in the pricing (10-30% of base)), also in sets like this will more than likely not have the sub-legends to match, so even if it was included you'd end up with missing characters all over the board which would destroy the look of the keyset.
So makes sense for just going with physical ISO support with sub-legends (apart from the potentially duplicated ろ).

Not for me, sadly, as when paying premium prices for a keyset I would rather make sure it ticks all the boxes without compromising on anything. But best of luck nonetheless, I know plenty of people who've been hoping for a R2!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: vinhsanity on Tue, 09 August 2022, 20:09:43
let me tell yall right now

no shot on god will there be latin alphas, additonal 40s keys (outside of the 3 1.xx keys added) , puck novelty, nordeuk, or relegendables  will be added.

please stop asking

c:
please gib latin alphas
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: maelkesnot on Wed, 10 August 2022, 11:13:00
Ok. Needs Latin🧍‍
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Wed, 10 August 2022, 11:45:25
The updated base kit render has been added to the main post.

Thank you for your input friends

A price requote is pending but we will see if the rekitting adds cost or not.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Rilow on Wed, 10 August 2022, 12:53:20
Very sad about no R2 Home and R3 End
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: caz1e on Wed, 10 August 2022, 13:17:56
I personally prefer more kit options than having one big kit that lacks a quite a few keys. Also, accent bars.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: hali on Wed, 10 August 2022, 14:15:20
thanks for being so open to community input on this one. the new kit looks a lot better, though i still think the alt gr is a little silly
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Wed, 10 August 2022, 14:59:17
will definitely join the groupbuy for this, but any chance we can see a possibility for latin alphas as a separate kit?

no latin alphas kit?


no latin alphas kit?

Don’t expect em to be run, but if you did I’d go for two of em.

Thanks for running stuff Krel

please gib latin alphas


https://forms.gle/73TdkPkfFfDe4k8v7

(https://i.imgur.com/Fv6bm8v.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Wed, 10 August 2022, 15:45:32
XT UWU Addon if you are already starting to add more kits  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: AnonyMoose_ on Wed, 10 August 2022, 15:58:40
ne accent bars avail?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Cylent on Wed, 10 August 2022, 16:10:40
this set is screaming for a separate bars kit, I really don't get why it's not happening. spacebar kits are the most consistent-selling child kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 10 August 2022, 17:08:02
I have filled out the form and indicated that I would buy more than one kit.

Want Latin alphas? Fill out this:

https://forms.gle/73TdkPkfFfDe4k8v7

Edit: this better be moq 100 or 150. Go for moq250 rn you’ll have a hard time.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: elisyan on Wed, 10 August 2022, 17:46:33
Please consider r3/r4 PgUp/PgDn in place of 2x 1u ctrl. The keys allow a range of different r1/r2 options to be used on 65%.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Wed, 10 August 2022, 19:22:53
Edit: this better be moq 100 or 150. Go for moq250 rn you’ll have a hard time.

ye

100
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: mr_foggy on Wed, 10 August 2022, 20:00:58
in for everything and the latin alphas.

need to swap them on the R1 basekit bc I can no longer stand to stare at the abomination in my avatar.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: clewstah on Thu, 11 August 2022, 17:03:56
I'm definitely in on this, minus the Latin alphas.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 11 August 2022, 22:19:41
woa

hibi

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/539602196476723220/1006535701728346183/HB-CHE-R1-FROS-R.1.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: incrediblejr on Fri, 12 August 2022, 02:21:57
I'm definitely in on this, with the Latin alphas.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: ShogoMcD on Fri, 12 August 2022, 02:57:51
Welp, I spent $100 on accent bars in the aftermarket, that was fun. RIP wallet.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: zzkhan1996 on Fri, 12 August 2022, 11:06:00
Jesus, that base remind me of the base of GMK Regal, another way to squeeze money I guess

Haizz, there goes my hope for the accent space
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 12 August 2022, 19:28:52
The interest in latin alphas looks to a level where we will be comfortable with running it.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Jubileus on Fri, 12 August 2022, 22:19:24
Accent bars please! It looks too naked without it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 13 August 2022, 11:24:59
Better shot of the hibi cap, will make this one the front facing thread image.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/627243461988581446/1008048087098466324/fros__001_A_iso.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: megaforce on Sat, 13 August 2022, 12:56:43
lord forgive me for i have sinned
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Sat, 13 August 2022, 18:32:45
Better shot of the hibi cap, will make this one the front facing thread image.

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/627243461988581446/1008048087098466324/fros__001_A_iso.png)


It looks much darker in this pic somehow :wat:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Hiiro_XoXo on Sun, 14 August 2022, 08:49:18
i dont understand why extend the base without at least adding accent color bars. better off making child kit for bars.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: caap on Mon, 15 August 2022, 23:25:58
in for both base and latin.

thanks krelbit and adam

 :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: kylekwong1 on Wed, 17 August 2022, 01:19:35
It doesn't make sense to me to have 6u bars in the base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 17 August 2022, 02:14:09
dzheng is a demon
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: B_D on Wed, 17 August 2022, 10:12:08
It doesn't make sense to me to have 6u bars in the base kit.
OG HHKB (6u) is being used more and more so it would not make sense to just completely take it out of the set for accent bars.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: dededecline on Wed, 17 August 2022, 10:13:32
It doesn't make sense to me to have 6u bars in the base kit.
OG HHKB (6u) is being used more and more so it would not make sense to just completely take it out of the set for accent bars.

Especially given that HHKB mods were added to the kit.

It’s also sometimes used in 40%, 75%, and 1800 layouts
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Wed, 17 August 2022, 11:29:29
(https://i.imgur.com/je1RMDH.png)

I have renders and pricing for the Latin Kit - $60 USD, with a lower MOQ than ran with FW1.

The extra bars did not contribute to the final pricing, but they help people that don't want the FW base kit use it outside of the set.

Well, there it is.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: digd on Wed, 17 August 2022, 14:02:50
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/je1RMDH.png)


I have renders and pricing for the Latin Kit - $60 USD, with a lower MOQ than ran with FW1.

The extra bars did not contribute to the final pricing, but they help people that don't want the FW base kit use it outside of the set.

Well, there it is.

Hey,
would you like think about adding 'tab' key to latin kit?

If, I think it would be a good set :)
(if it is, can be used on tkl / 60 two set keeb...)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Something_Magical on Wed, 17 August 2022, 14:11:09
Looks great, can't wait to join the GB
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Wed, 17 August 2022, 15:31:15
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/je1RMDH.png)


I have renders and pricing for the Latin Kit - $60 USD, with a lower MOQ than ran with FW1.

The extra bars did not contribute to the final pricing, but they help people that don't want the FW base kit use it outside of the set.

Well, there it is.

Hey,
would you like think about adding 'tab' key to latin kit?

If, I think it would be a good set :)
(if it is, can be used on tkl / 60 two set keeb...)

Unfortunately, the GB is in 2 days, a bit too little time to requote, have every vendor reprice, etc.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Jho on Wed, 17 August 2022, 20:43:27
Rem best girl, but I think I have to get, just looks so good. (Emilia pretty ****ing sick too)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: deviant324 on Thu, 18 August 2022, 02:13:07
Of all the things to kill, why accent bars sadge
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Frost Witch 2
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 18 August 2022, 23:16:47
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=118133 GB LIVE GO GB THREAD