[url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106031.0][img width=384 height=120]https://i.imgur.com/27I3ske.png[/img][/url]My Japanese is not that good, even though I'm a native but.
That Japanese looks off.
Akari vs Hikari (depends for what you're going for)
But the last part "見 つ け て" is making me to believe it's an incomplete sentence.
I dunno, maybe I'm wrong.
This looks great.
As for the Japanese, I would like to add that it is slightly off grammatically but nothing major
その明かりをもう一度見つけて is more accurate replacing は with を
明かり is perfectly fine in my opinion. 光り means light where 明かり means "glow" or "illumination" which has a nice soft sound.
Looks interesting.I fix it in prototype before, the render image just about outside look. You can see in the image below
How will top mount be achieved? From the renders you currently have it appears you have some interferences between the screw heads holding the plate and the bottom case bosses. Additionally there are some very thin features that look like they will easily bend even during machining, in addition to handling and assembly.
This looks pretty great, very unique blockers/layout! The leaf spring on the plate seems pretty huge, so keep that in mind if you want to offer more flexible plate materials. Looking forward to seeing the proto for this!
Also, have you decided on a format for the GB? Interested to know if this will be run as FCFS, raffle, etc. This is important from a personal expectation management standpoint :)
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Cool. Will keep an eye out for the IC form. Hope all goes well and we get to GB quickly. All the best!Also, have you decided on a format for the GB? Interested to know if this will be run as FCFS, raffle, etc. This is important from a personal expectation management standpoint :)
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After I have the prototype I will open the IC form.
At the moment, I don't know what format GB should be.
After see some image origami ... I have an idea.This is just lovely. I am sold on this.
To be honest, my theory would be assemble. But I had to wait for the production unit technical advisor to answer me. Extremely excited!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7ByxyIA.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/C2rZY5o.jpg)
After see some image origami ... I have an idea.
To be honest, my theory would be assemble. But I had to wait for the production unit technical advisor to answer me. Extremely excited!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7ByxyIA.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/C2rZY5o.jpg)
Just wanted to clarify but when you say copper weights do you mean copper (pure copper) or brass (copper + zinc)?
All good! Figured it was probably a translation thing. Really excited for this!Just wanted to clarify but when you say copper weights do you mean copper (pure copper) or brass (copper + zinc)?
Sorry for my word make confusing.
Weight will be using Brass material (not copper)
After discussing my technical advisors, the only feasible way to make the logo is using wire edm. The accuracy would be high (after anoding, it may not fit because anode makes the surface about 25 micron thicker)
In order to guarantee the accuracy, I booked 2 more top parts with new logo for the prototype.
Rip my wallet :(
After discussing my technical advisors, the only feasible way to make the logo is using wire edm. The accuracy would be high (after anoding, it may not fit because anode makes the surface about 25 micron thicker)Dang. Excited to see.
In order to guarantee the accuracy, I booked 2 more top parts with new logo for the prototype.
Rip my wallet :(
Love youAfter discussing my technical advisors, the only feasible way to make the logo is using wire edm. The accuracy would be high (after anoding, it may not fit because anode makes the surface about 25 micron thicker)Dang. Excited to see.
In order to guarantee the accuracy, I booked 2 more top parts with new logo for the prototype.
Rip my wallet :(
Edges cross between the bird and the sun is very sharp, so we can't using cnc tools for cut that part.After discussing my technical advisors, the only feasible way to make the logo is using wire edm. The accuracy would be high (after anoding, it may not fit because anode makes the surface about 25 micron thicker)
In order to guarantee the accuracy, I booked 2 more top parts with new logo for the prototype.
Rip my wallet :(
CNC the red sun. Make the place where it fits into about 0.10 mm larger and it should still fit after ano and you'll barely notice the gap.
sexy af.
Bác mà chạy là anh em VKG ủng hộ hết mình :))
Edges cross between the bird and the sun is very sharp, so we can't using cnc tools for cut that part.
That looks really clean and amazing, can't wait to see it!thanks you sir
Wire EDM is very interesting way to cut material.Edges cross between the bird and the sun is very sharp, so we can't using cnc tools for cut that part.
I hear you. Can't you fillet the inside edges like 0.1mm so a drill bit would be able to do that? Not sure how visible the effect would be, but at least it would allow you to cnc it.
Really like the design and both logos are cool in their own way!Thanks you sir
Good luck and def interested. Me and my girlfriend finished both Ori games during the quarantine as well, with both of us finishing the 2nd game literally within seconds of each other - and rate it as one of the best game(s) we've played. Made me wonder how AAA games cannot capture the charm and simplicity of these games, yet with much more budget and resources.
More image from CNC prototype phase, not finish yet. We still have a polish phase, but look pretty good.
My new Top part with new logo will cnc tomorrow.
Thanks for your time.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VHMWky3.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CrRgO0r.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/F1OMfNN.jpg)
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Filled out the IC form. Board is gorgeous and I really hope you continue forward with it!
filled out the form! Really excited to see progress on this!
(https://i.imgur.com/27I3ske.png) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106031.0)I actually have a discord, but currently I rarely have time to chat / reply on the discord. But when Group Buy is available, there will certainly be sever Discord and Blog to be updated for everyone.
I love this. Reserved.
I would love to have a discord to talk about this!
Interested to see that new logo on a proto! Looks great
Looking good so far!!
Wish it wasn’t limited to 10. Looks like we’re gonna have to fight for a spot
Looking good so far! How is the PCB prototyping going? Will you be putting one of the prototypes together? I'm interested in how the keyboard feels and sounds because aesthetic wise its on point.PCB i bought from hi end team, so please don't worry.
I can't wait for more developments. :D
p.s. What is the height of the front end?
That is the most beautiful keyboard logo I've seen to date. GLthanks you
Looking great, interest is building.thanks you
Love the design choices here. Interested!Thanks you
Love it overall. If this makes it for a decent price. I'm definitely in!
I am in on this one. Im going to try to be #10 lolIf nothing change, price point will be 380 for standard kit.
What is the price point?
this looks so good. hopefully I'd be able to get in on this :-[
Wish it wasn’t limited to 10. Looks like we’re gonna have to fight for a spot
Love it. Can't wait to TRY to get into this GB.
Any chance you'll make more than 10? Not sure how your first 10 will be picked but I'm in!
New logo looks really good! Two things that caught my mind on the proto;I will check that usb port, maybe i will make it bigger just a litte bit.
- bottom row of the plate is cheese, would hope for more fixed plates for the lucky 10 buyers
- the USB port cutout is clean, I do wonder if it’s not too small for all the fancy custom cables we use
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This looks incredible - 1. Is there any updates on the GB date? 2. IM DEFINITELY IN
Im still waitting for next prototype. and i think i will limited in 15 set. 20 is to risky with my finance.
Sorry for potato image, but I'm too excited to be able to share it with you.
It worked! 100%Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/utB12vH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/d3gQRrN.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1JB4elK.jpg)
Need to know asap if it’s a raffle so I can start preachin for the RNG gods!! Otherwise, glwicIm still waitting for next prototype. and i think i will limited in 15 set. 20 is to risky with my finance.
Can't wait to see, thanks for your hard work. Do you have an idea of how the GB will operate? Is it a raffle or firs come first serve?
ok, im booking for new Weight prototype .
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SS polish --> Brass sandblast ---> alu red anodizing
Is there a new invite link to the discord channel. Would love to follow this project!
Is there a new invite link to the discord channel. Would love to follow this project!
As someone who has been in the origami hobby since I was a child, this is incredibly exciting for me and it goes without saying that it would be an instant purchase for me!
Edit: Just read that it'll only be 10 units. Do you know if it will be raffe, fcfs, etc? Legitimately need this in my life
Get away from my ORI;D
Every Update gets me even more exited.:thumb:,
You're improving it every time, by A LOT.
Even if you only raffle off fewer numbers at the start I'm sure there would be a big draw for a round 2.Even when I had just a little now, I felt very pressured already. :cool:
The prototype image is anodizing finished, taken at the factory. Tomorrow I'll go pick up.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BXqGprf.jpg)
The prototype image is anodizing finished, taken at the factory. Tomorrow I'll go pick up.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BXqGprf.jpg)
I'm so happy, I forgot to buy a screw.
Silver case + red logo + red weight aluShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/wL6vRsf.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wL6vRsf.jpg)
Black case + brass logo + brass weightShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/iQrkTQf.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bjtWVxu.jpg)
that ano job is gorgeous. amazing work!thanks man
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The only sad thing about this is the limited quantity. With my luck I would never get one :(Thanks man
But the design is truly outrageous. Love it!
Hope you have a successful Gb and gather some vendors for a subsequent R2.
I'm so happy, I forgot to buy a screw.
Silver case + red logo + red weight aluShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/wL6vRsf.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wL6vRsf.jpg)
Black case + brass logo + brass weightShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/iQrkTQf.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bjtWVxu.jpg)
That looks pretty amazing! Very nice work!
I'm so happy, I forgot to buy a screw.
Silver case + red logo + red weight aluShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/wL6vRsf.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/s5nkxm5.jpg)
Black case + brass logo + brass weightShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/iQrkTQf.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bjtWVxu.jpg)
that ano job is gorgeous. amazing work!
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Hethat ano job is gorgeous. amazing work!
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Here : https://www.instagram.com/p/CAkH_B3AcbE/?igshid=3f47rby7g0i5
Note, this guy is a known scammer. He ran the Makeaboard which never shipped.That's pretty bold.. And the links don't seem to be proofs or am I missing something??
Proof:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/714651885512163398/unknown.png?width=398&height=403
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/714651909927075910/97438271_4045062282178147_6177431442994233344_n.png?width=305&height=303
They are both posts from the same account advertising the boards.Note, this guy is a known scammer. He ran the Makeaboard which never shipped.That's pretty bold.. And the links don't seem to be proofs or am I missing something??
Proof:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/714651885512163398/unknown.png?width=398&height=403
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/714651909927075910/97438271_4045062282178147_6177431442994233344_n.png?width=305&height=303
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They are both posts from the same account advertising the boards.Note, this guy is a known scammer. He ran the Makeaboard which never shipped.That's pretty bold.. And the links don't seem to be proofs or am I missing something??
Proof:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/714651885512163398/unknown.png?width=398&height=403
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/714651909927075910/97438271_4045062282178147_6177431442994233344_n.png?width=305&height=303
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I suggest reading the comments in https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93342.0They are both posts from the same account advertising the boards.Note, this guy is a known scammer. He ran the Makeaboard which never shipped.That's pretty bold.. And the links don't seem to be proofs or am I missing something??
Proof:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/714651885512163398/unknown.png?width=398&height=403
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/714651909927075910/97438271_4045062282178147_6177431442994233344_n.png?width=305&height=303
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Yup very bold. Would love some context tho. Do you have any links regarding makeaboard? Also reason why that keyboard never shipped.
i have bingosame
i have bingo
what do i wini have bingosame
1 GB spot for a board that will never ship ?i have bingowhat do i wini have bingosame
1. I do not hide the fact that I am the designer of MakeABoard, read carefully the Story section of the IC.
2. Designer differs from people who actually take money and host.
3. You have taken a screenshot of my facebook, so you're a local market person. So why are you using clones? Are you 15 years old?
4. It seems you enjoy screen-taking of other people's personal information, over and over again.
Shame
1. I do not hide the fact that I am the designer of MakeABoard, read carefully the Story section of the IC.
2. Designer differs from people who actually take money and host.
3. You have taken a screenshot of my facebook, so you're a local market person. So why are you using clones? Are you 15 years old?
4. It seems you enjoy screen-taking of other people's personal information, over and over again.
Shame
RipRip indeed.
Thanks for the heads up.RipRip indeed.
1. I do not hide the fact that I am the designer of MakeABoard, read carefully the Story section of the IC.
2. Designer differs from people who actually take money and host.
3. You have taken a screenshot of my facebook, so you're a local market person. So why are you using clones? Are you 15 years old?
4. It seems you enjoy screen-taking of other people's personal information, over and over again.
Shame
Aw man I was so excited for this..He should just sell the design to a known vendor, and not do any more boards or have any involvement with it.
Unless OP can reasonably explain what happened and guarantees in stock sales - I don't think I can proceed..
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Wow, thanks for the heads up. I'm new to GH and read through all the comments in that thread link you posted - what a **** show (pardon my french).RipRip indeed.
Wow, thanks for the heads up. I'm new to GH and read through all the comments in that thread link you posted - what a **** show (pardon my french).:thumb:
Dam this went downhill fast...From what I have heard, he just writes a long giant statement and then ignores everyone.
OP you should definitely make a better statement. People would find it hard place trust in the project considering what happened in the past. No need for pitchforks yet but I'd love to hear a proper response on the situation.
welp, guess that's one less tkl to look forward to. more money in our pockets i guess.I suggest removing it from your signature haha
welp, guess that's one less tkl to look forward to. more money in our pockets i guess.I suggest removing it from your signature haha
So you are using "The Rising Sun" which is related to war criminal as a weight.very meta
lol
such a plot twist, was eager to get this :eek::(
Looking at the prototype and how it turned out somehow make me trust the OP.Let's wait for a response
Yeah, i think he need to clarify what actually happened with his former team and incident around the previous GB. Looking at how much effort he put on prototype, i think we should give OP a second chance.Looking at the prototype and how it turned out somehow make me trust the OP.Let's wait for a response
As long as he did not receive any money seems to be somewhat innocent.
Dear all,
I create this topic to explain all problems. First, wading back to the time of MAB, MAB consists of 3 members: Tuan Anh, Vu and me.
I was invited into the team as a designer. Vu (make pcb) joined the team later only when beginning opening GB R96.
It is the fact that my role is only to design, Vu’s is to make pcb and Tuan Anh is totally in charge of machining.
The cash flow of MAB was set: Paypal (mine) -> currency conversion -> give Tuan Anh to pay for machining factory.
I GAVE ALL THE MONEY RECEIVED TO TUAN ANH with a promise of 10% GB but never ever happened.
And I never ever receive any money of R96, 60S, rose.
Matter arising when finishing anodizing R96, some of pieces was failed and had to remake. During that time, Tuan Anh on his own sold R96 for others (even though who hadn’t follow GB)
It resulted in short of goods and money is only Tuan Anh knew.
Then, opening new GB of 60S to make up for R96 loss.
(Even at this time, I didn’t receive any money as salary or commission)
My paypal now is claim up to -3700$ but contacting Tuan Anh just receive nothing.
After 60S, I left MAB (If still called a team) because I didn’t agree with that working way. And I have worked in another field for a long time and didn’t think about making keyboard anymore.
I want to make clear that I never ever received any money of any GB of MAB and have no idea of cash flow at that time.
If I open GB ORI just due to money or scam or something else, I don’t have to use my true account? I can stand under another’s name, is it much more easier?
About ORI, I have done 2 prototypes and nearly get 1 more to make sure about the quality.
ORI is my design and LOKA is manufacturer. In addition, LOKA and I signed legal contract.
I have talked all what related to me above. I lost money, lost reputation, lost time. For the time beings, even in difficulty I didn’t bring this story to get the community’s tear. But this time, everything goes too far, when some people don’t consider or maybe hate me and try to ruin me.
Now, it does not influence only me but also LOKA that support me very well.
In conclusion, this is my first as well as my last time to make an explanation about MAB and me. Everything is true or not, many people know.
If I open GB ORI just due to money or scam or something else, I don’t have to use my true account? I can stand under another’s name, is it much more easier?
If I open GB ORI just due to money or scam or something else, I don’t have to use my true account? I can stand under another’s name, is it much more easier?
Plus for this tbh.
If he wanted to scam people he could have just created a new account and not mention that he designed the MAB at all. But he did.
And if he really just designed the MAB and was not involved in the rest of the GB process then it's fine I guess.
Also the prototypes look fire. I like :)
AgreedIf I open GB ORI just due to money or scam or something else, I don’t have to use my true account? I can stand under another’s name, is it much more easier?
Plus for this tbh.
If he wanted to scam people he could have just created a new account and not mention that he designed the MAB at all. But he did.
And if he really just designed the MAB and was not involved in the rest of the GB process then it's fine I guess.
Also the prototypes look fire. I like :)
hmm, either risk money on a fire design. or hold money and spend it on another design thats fire that will come later on.. its not like this board is the end all be all of all well designed/innovativley designed TKLs......
So I've read the Old 60S thread and this one and from what I can tell all we have on the guy running this GB is that he helped design a board that failed and promoted that board on his social media (as you do). I'm not quite sure how that links him to the ****ery concerning the finances and manufacturing of the old board. The guy transfered funds but that was about it. For a 10 unit GB the design process has been perfectly transparent so far with anodized protos already being presented. I personally don't think the old thread or any of the "evidence" presented really implicates this person as a scammer. I would be interested in hearing about the other points of view here though since most of the criticism so far has come in the form of big red text and a facebook screenshot.
Interesting to see drama unfolding. I don't really have an opinion on OP's credibility (both sides seem to have a point) but I do have a problem with the Rising Sun being used for the bottom design. It's distasteful, same way using a modified version of a swastika on a keyboard design would be.To be fair it isn't identical to the actual rising sun iconography. So what, were never allowed put a sun rise on a Japanese themed board? I think it's a pretty far stretch, unless you can link to an instance where a similar style was used in propoganda or affiliation with the WWII regime?
Interesting to see drama unfolding. I don't really have an opinion on OP's credibility (both sides seem to have a point) but I do have a problem with the Rising Sun being used for the bottom design. It's distasteful, same way using a modified version of a swastika on a keyboard design would be.To be fair it isn't identical to the actual rising sun iconography. So what, were never allowed put a sun rise on a Japanese themed board? I think it's a pretty far stretch, unless you can link to an instance where a similar style was used in propoganda or affiliation with the WWII regime?
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I'll def take a look and see what's there. But I mean it's a sunrise. The swastika really only has one identity outside being a religious symbol rarely used in modern times. I'm not saying it's not wrong, just feel like it's more of a stretch. Sunrises mean a lot of different things for many people, the swastika clearly has one major symbolic representation.Interesting to see drama unfolding. I don't really have an opinion on OP's credibility (both sides seem to have a point) but I do have a problem with the Rising Sun being used for the bottom design. It's distasteful, same way using a modified version of a swastika on a keyboard design would be.To be fair it isn't identical to the actual rising sun iconography. So what, were never allowed put a sun rise on a Japanese themed board? I think it's a pretty far stretch, unless you can link to an instance where a similar style was used in propoganda or affiliation with the WWII regime?
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It's not identical, but there's obvious reference to the iconography—hence my comparison to a 'modified' swastika.
One of the few places you would see that flag flown publicly these days is Japanese right-wing extremist protests—more specifically hate groups like Zaitokukai.
This does not explain why it just shipped in Vietnam or why when the moderators tried to contact you to help, and you declined. There is a reason you were banned, even my post got on VMG with people saying I was right. Also why should someone who uses K3KC as a photographer be trusted. From what I have heard from friends, you ****ted on the Vietnamese community and hurt their community. I will try to get more information, but that's what I can think about right now.
Dear all,
I create this topic to explain all problems. First, wading back to the time of MAB, MAB consists of 3 members: Tuan Anh, Vu and me.
I was invited into the team as a designer. Vu (make pcb) joined the team later only when beginning opening GB R96.
It is the fact that my role is only to design, Vu’s is to make pcb and Tuan Anh is totally in charge of machining.
The cash flow of MAB was set: Paypal (mine) -> currency conversion -> give Tuan Anh to pay for machining factory.
I GAVE ALL THE MONEY RECEIVED TO TUAN ANH with a promise of 10% GB but never ever happened.
And I never ever receive any money of R96, 60S, rose.
Matter arising when finishing anodizing R96, some of pieces was failed and had to remake. During that time, Tuan Anh on his own sold R96 for others (even though who hadn’t follow GB)
It resulted in short of goods and money is only Tuan Anh knew.
Then, opening new GB of 60S to make up for R96 loss.
(Even at this time, I didn’t receive any money as salary or commission)
My paypal now is claim up to -3700$ but contacting Tuan Anh just receive nothing.
After 60S, I left MAB (If still called a team) because I didn’t agree with that working way. And I have worked in another field for a long time and didn’t think about making keyboard anymore.
I want to make clear that I never ever received any money of any GB of MAB and have no idea of cash flow at that time.
If I open GB ORI just due to money or scam or something else, I don’t have to use my true account? I can stand under another’s name, is it much more easier?
About ORI, I have done 2 prototypes and nearly get 1 more to make sure about the quality.
ORI is my design and LOKA is manufacturer. In addition, LOKA and I signed legal contract.
I have talked all what related to me above. I lost money, lost reputation, lost time. For the time beings, even in difficulty I didn’t bring this story to get the community’s tear. But this time, everything goes too far, when some people don’t consider or maybe hate me and try to ruin me.
Now, it does not influence only me but also LOKA that support me very well.
In conclusion, this is my first as well as my last time to make an explanation about MAB and me. Everything is true or not, many people know.
Thanks for clearing this out and saving my money. I am out of this :)Thank you for trusting me haha :)
I did not mention everything to prove that I am not wrong. During the R96 / 60S, the owner of MAB sold the product on their own initiative without telling me. That is why the product is shipped in Vietnam. It was natural for me to have a non-cooperative attitude towards the community at the time, because I had to keep my team private and protected.Could you at least focus on shipping your last project? All you are doing is shifting the blame on someone else.
I was very wrong and immature to conceal it, but at the time, I still thought I could revive everything if the GB 60s went smoothly.
But in the end, if I wanted to swear at me about MAB, I agreed. But don't drag Ori in because it's irrelevant, and even because your current post I can't deal a good price on the Ori keyboard. Only 10-15 slots you have to understand is very difficult to be able to get sponsors ready to produce for me with high quality.
If you prove I've been involved with the Scam team, then you've succeeded. And even more successful now that no one in the local market wants to receive my design anymore, congratulations.
but blame who ? The last project i work in MAB is 60SYou are saying the rest of the team messed up and not you, but in fact you all did. Also you had a period when you didn't respond to the MAB buyers for about two years. If you are saying I don't have proof, where is yours?
but blame who ? The last project i work in MAB is 60SYou are saying the rest of the team messed up and not you, but in fact you all did. Also you had a period when you didn't respond to the MAB buyers for about two years. If you are saying I don't have proof, where is yours?
Just to clarify. When you talk about him being banned, and lack of communication, are you talking about on GH, and was he the main person involved in communication for the GB?but blame who ? The last project i work in MAB is 60SYou are saying the rest of the team messed up and not you, but in fact you all did. Also you had a period when you didn't respond to the MAB buyers for about two years. If you are saying I don't have proof, where is yours?
I'm slightly confused here about whos job it was to communicate updates to the public. If it is true that the GB runner for this project was only working as a designer on the 60S why would he be involved in any of the stuff that went south? ( Communication, production etc.) It seems to me that you are holding him responsible for all the things that went wrong eventhough those weren't the areas he was working in. From what I can tell there weren't any problems with the design. And how could he have communicated updates about the manufacturing process if he himself couldn't reach the person in charge?
but blame who ? The last project i work in MAB is 60SYou are saying the rest of the team messed up and not you, but in fact you all did. Also you had a period when you didn't respond to the MAB buyers for about two years. If you are saying I don't have proof, where is yours?
I'm slightly confused here about whos job it was to communicate updates to the public. If it is true that the GB runner for this project was only working as a designer on the 60S why would he be involved in any of the stuff that went south? ( Communication, production etc.) It seems to me that you are holding him responsible for all the things that went wrong eventhough those weren't the areas he was working in. From what I can tell there weren't any problems with the design. And how could he have communicated updates about the manufacturing process if he himself couldn't reach the person in charge?He could at least respond to buyers saying he left the project and what he is going to do to have their money back. Though.
He was the main communicator and designer. He did all PR for the MAB brand.Just to clarify. When you talk about him being banned, and lack of communication, are you talking about on GH, and was he the main person involved in communication for the GB?but blame who ? The last project i work in MAB is 60SYou are saying the rest of the team messed up and not you, but in fact you all did. Also you had a period when you didn't respond to the MAB buyers for about two years. If you are saying I don't have proof, where is yours?
I'm not sure if it's just translating to English but you use a lot of "you" seeming to imply that he was the sole person responsible for all these things your blaming him for. But if the GB wasn't actually communicated by him I'm not sure the blame of lack of communication falls on him personally.
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I'm slightly confused here about whos job it was to communicate updates to the public. If it is true that the GB runner for this project was only working as a designer on the 60S why would he be involved in any of the stuff that went south? ( Communication, production etc.) It seems to me that you are holding him responsible for all the things that went wrong eventhough those weren't the areas he was working in. From what I can tell there weren't any problems with the design. And how could he have communicated updates about the manufacturing process if he himself couldn't reach the person in charge?He could at least respond to buyers saying he left the project and what he is going to do to have their money back. Though.
He was the main communicator and designer. He did all PR for the MAB brand.Just to clarify. When you talk about him being banned, and lack of communication, are you talking about on GH, and was he the main person involved in communication for the GB?but blame who ? The last project i work in MAB is 60SYou are saying the rest of the team messed up and not you, but in fact you all did. Also you had a period when you didn't respond to the MAB buyers for about two years. If you are saying I don't have proof, where is yours?
I'm not sure if it's just translating to English but you use a lot of "you" seeming to imply that he was the sole person responsible for all these things your blaming him for. But if the GB wasn't actually communicated by him I'm not sure the blame of lack of communication falls on him personally.
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I mean he definitely shouldn't go back and say he'll get there money back if he simply can't get their money back. Apparently the cost is sunk. He can't just materialize cash. He can run this GB and try to pay them back with the profits, but the design and cost he's expecting it won't be nearly enough to actually pay them.I'm slightly confused here about whos job it was to communicate updates to the public. If it is true that the GB runner for this project was only working as a designer on the 60S why would he be involved in any of the stuff that went south? ( Communication, production etc.) It seems to me that you are holding him responsible for all the things that went wrong eventhough those weren't the areas he was working in. From what I can tell there weren't any problems with the design. And how could he have communicated updates about the manufacturing process if he himself couldn't reach the person in charge?He could at least respond to buyers saying he left the project and what he is going to do to have their money back. Though.
Even he said he was lol.He was the main communicator and designer. He did all PR for the MAB brand.Just to clarify. When you talk about him being banned, and lack of communication, are you talking about on GH, and was he the main person involved in communication for the GB?but blame who ? The last project i work in MAB is 60SYou are saying the rest of the team messed up and not you, but in fact you all did. Also you had a period when you didn't respond to the MAB buyers for about two years. If you are saying I don't have proof, where is yours?
I'm not sure if it's just translating to English but you use a lot of "you" seeming to imply that he was the sole person responsible for all these things your blaming him for. But if the GB wasn't actually communicated by him I'm not sure the blame of lack of communication falls on him personally.
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So what ur saying is that "Maylily" and "BruceDinh" are the same person? And if so how do u get to that conclusion?
He could have used the money from the protos to at least refund a few people.I mean he definitely shouldn't go back and say he'll get there money back if he simply can't get their money back. Apparently the cost is sunk. He can't just materialize cash. He can run this GB and try to pay them back with the profits, but the design and cost he's expecting it won't be nearly enough to actually pay them.I'm slightly confused here about whos job it was to communicate updates to the public. If it is true that the GB runner for this project was only working as a designer on the 60S why would he be involved in any of the stuff that went south? ( Communication, production etc.) It seems to me that you are holding him responsible for all the things that went wrong eventhough those weren't the areas he was working in. From what I can tell there weren't any problems with the design. And how could he have communicated updates about the manufacturing process if he himself couldn't reach the person in charge?He could at least respond to buyers saying he left the project and what he is going to do to have their money back. Though.
Not saying any of this excuses whatever role he had. But I'd rather take silence then promises of refunds which simply won't appear.
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Sure. And then what about the others. And claims of favoritism. And resentment in the community. Etc. I don't know. It's just not as easy to do. If refunds are given, a lump total sum to all is best. And again, if it's not completely his fault, it's an unfair financial burden to lay at one person in a teams feet.He could have used the money from the protos to at least refund a few people.I mean he definitely shouldn't go back and say he'll get there money back if he simply can't get their money back. Apparently the cost is sunk. He can't just materialize cash. He can run this GB and try to pay them back with the profits, but the design and cost he's expecting it won't be nearly enough to actually pay them.I'm slightly confused here about whos job it was to communicate updates to the public. If it is true that the GB runner for this project was only working as a designer on the 60S why would he be involved in any of the stuff that went south? ( Communication, production etc.) It seems to me that you are holding him responsible for all the things that went wrong eventhough those weren't the areas he was working in. From what I can tell there weren't any problems with the design. And how could he have communicated updates about the manufacturing process if he himself couldn't reach the person in charge?He could at least respond to buyers saying he left the project and what he is going to do to have their money back. Though.
Not saying any of this excuses whatever role he had. But I'd rather take silence then promises of refunds which simply won't appear.
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Even he said he was lol.He was the main communicator and designer. He did all PR for the MAB brand.Just to clarify. When you talk about him being banned, and lack of communication, are you talking about on GH, and was he the main person involved in communication for the GB?but blame who ? The last project i work in MAB is 60SYou are saying the rest of the team messed up and not you, but in fact you all did. Also you had a period when you didn't respond to the MAB buyers for about two years. If you are saying I don't have proof, where is yours?
I'm not sure if it's just translating to English but you use a lot of "you" seeming to imply that he was the sole person responsible for all these things your blaming him for. But if the GB wasn't actually communicated by him I'm not sure the blame of lack of communication falls on him personally.
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So what ur saying is that "Maylily" and "BruceDinh" are the same person? And if so how do u get to that conclusion?
Yeah, I could see that. I think it was a poor idea for him to run it if they don't have the capital to do refunds anyways.Sure. And then what about the others. And claims of favoritism. And resentment in the community. Etc. I don't know. It's just not as easy to do. If refunds are given, a lump total sum to all is best. And again, if it's not completely his fault, it's an unfair financial burden to lay at one person in a teams feet.He could have used the money from the protos to at least refund a few people.I mean he definitely shouldn't go back and say he'll get there money back if he simply can't get their money back. Apparently the cost is sunk. He can't just materialize cash. He can run this GB and try to pay them back with the profits, but the design and cost he's expecting it won't be nearly enough to actually pay them.I'm slightly confused here about whos job it was to communicate updates to the public. If it is true that the GB runner for this project was only working as a designer on the 60S why would he be involved in any of the stuff that went south? ( Communication, production etc.) It seems to me that you are holding him responsible for all the things that went wrong eventhough those weren't the areas he was working in. From what I can tell there weren't any problems with the design. And how could he have communicated updates about the manufacturing process if he himself couldn't reach the person in charge?He could at least respond to buyers saying he left the project and what he is going to do to have their money back. Though.
Not saying any of this excuses whatever role he had. But I'd rather take silence then promises of refunds which simply won't appear.
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That said maybe his reputation is just done for at this point and it's time for a new hobby. Lol.
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Sure. And then what about the others. And claims of favoritism. And resentment in the community. Etc. I don't know. It's just not as easy to do. If refunds are given, a lump total sum to all is best. And again, if it's not completely his fault, it's an unfair financial burden to lay at one person in a teams feet.He could have used the money from the protos to at least refund a few people.I mean he definitely shouldn't go back and say he'll get there money back if he simply can't get their money back. Apparently the cost is sunk. He can't just materialize cash. He can run this GB and try to pay them back with the profits, but the design and cost he's expecting it won't be nearly enough to actually pay them.I'm slightly confused here about whos job it was to communicate updates to the public. If it is true that the GB runner for this project was only working as a designer on the 60S why would he be involved in any of the stuff that went south? ( Communication, production etc.) It seems to me that you are holding him responsible for all the things that went wrong eventhough those weren't the areas he was working in. From what I can tell there weren't any problems with the design. And how could he have communicated updates about the manufacturing process if he himself couldn't reach the person in charge?He could at least respond to buyers saying he left the project and what he is going to do to have their money back. Though.
Not saying any of this excuses whatever role he had. But I'd rather take silence then promises of refunds which simply won't appear.
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That said maybe his reputation is just done for at this point and it's time for a new hobby. Lol.
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Yeah. Definitely agree there. And he may have "learned" if he's limiting the Ori to a number he could financially cover. But I'm confident a lot of private group buys ran on GH wouldn't survive refunding a total loss. Luckily the worst case is usually just long delays.Yeah, I could see that. I think it was a poor idea for him to run it if they don't have the capital to do refunds anyways.Sure. And then what about the others. And claims of favoritism. And resentment in the community. Etc. I don't know. It's just not as easy to do. If refunds are given, a lump total sum to all is best. And again, if it's not completely his fault, it's an unfair financial burden to lay at one person in a teams feet.He could have used the money from the protos to at least refund a few people.I mean he definitely shouldn't go back and say he'll get there money back if he simply can't get their money back. Apparently the cost is sunk. He can't just materialize cash. He can run this GB and try to pay them back with the profits, but the design and cost he's expecting it won't be nearly enough to actually pay them.I'm slightly confused here about whos job it was to communicate updates to the public. If it is true that the GB runner for this project was only working as a designer on the 60S why would he be involved in any of the stuff that went south? ( Communication, production etc.) It seems to me that you are holding him responsible for all the things that went wrong eventhough those weren't the areas he was working in. From what I can tell there weren't any problems with the design. And how could he have communicated updates about the manufacturing process if he himself couldn't reach the person in charge?He could at least respond to buyers saying he left the project and what he is going to do to have their money back. Though.
Not saying any of this excuses whatever role he had. But I'd rather take silence then promises of refunds which simply won't appear.
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That said maybe his reputation is just done for at this point and it's time for a new hobby. Lol.
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Yeah. Definitely agree there. And he may have "learned" if he's limiting the Ori to a number he could financially cover. But I'm confident a lot of private group buys ran on GH wouldn't survive refunding a total loss. Luckily the worst case is usually just long delays.Yeah, I could see that. I think it was a poor idea for him to run it if they don't have the capital to do refunds anyways.Sure. And then what about the others. And claims of favoritism. And resentment in the community. Etc. I don't know. It's just not as easy to do. If refunds are given, a lump total sum to all is best. And again, if it's not completely his fault, it's an unfair financial burden to lay at one person in a teams feet.He could have used the money from the protos to at least refund a few people.I mean he definitely shouldn't go back and say he'll get there money back if he simply can't get their money back. Apparently the cost is sunk. He can't just materialize cash. He can run this GB and try to pay them back with the profits, but the design and cost he's expecting it won't be nearly enough to actually pay them.I'm slightly confused here about whos job it was to communicate updates to the public. If it is true that the GB runner for this project was only working as a designer on the 60S why would he be involved in any of the stuff that went south? ( Communication, production etc.) It seems to me that you are holding him responsible for all the things that went wrong eventhough those weren't the areas he was working in. From what I can tell there weren't any problems with the design. And how could he have communicated updates about the manufacturing process if he himself couldn't reach the person in charge?He could at least respond to buyers saying he left the project and what he is going to do to have their money back. Though.
Not saying any of this excuses whatever role he had. But I'd rather take silence then promises of refunds which simply won't appear.
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That said maybe his reputation is just done for at this point and it's time for a new hobby. Lol.
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Yeah. No. Def a bad way to do things for sure. Just wish I had a better picture of what his actual involvement was. Or how much influence he had. Probably things we'll never get answered. I mean it wouldn't be the first time a team has coerced it's members into thinking the best course of action is complete radio silence. Def not the first time it's happened here on GH. Haha.Sure. And then what about the others. And claims of favoritism. And resentment in the community. Etc. I don't know. It's just not as easy to do. If refunds are given, a lump total sum to all is best. And again, if it's not completely his fault, it's an unfair financial burden to lay at one person in a teams feet.He could have used the money from the protos to at least refund a few people.I mean he definitely shouldn't go back and say he'll get there money back if he simply can't get their money back. Apparently the cost is sunk. He can't just materialize cash. He can run this GB and try to pay them back with the profits, but the design and cost he's expecting it won't be nearly enough to actually pay them.I'm slightly confused here about whos job it was to communicate updates to the public. If it is true that the GB runner for this project was only working as a designer on the 60S why would he be involved in any of the stuff that went south? ( Communication, production etc.) It seems to me that you are holding him responsible for all the things that went wrong eventhough those weren't the areas he was working in. From what I can tell there weren't any problems with the design. And how could he have communicated updates about the manufacturing process if he himself couldn't reach the person in charge?He could at least respond to buyers saying he left the project and what he is going to do to have their money back. Though.
Not saying any of this excuses whatever role he had. But I'd rather take silence then promises of refunds which simply won't appear.
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That said maybe his reputation is just done for at this point and it's time for a new hobby. Lol.
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Had there been reasonable communication in 2018 from the OP, he'd most likely be in an OK position and we'd likely not be having this conversation. He should have updated users here when he knew things were going south, not coming back 2 years later and passing the buck when he wants to make a new board.
That to me just screams poor pricing. Clearly they expected to hit a moq they just didn't. And instead of canceling, assumes they could find a new vendor or solution that could do it for the price they wanted. Def a bad move.Yeah. Definitely agree there. And he may have "learned" if he's limiting the Ori to a number he could financially cover. But I'm confident a lot of private group buys ran on GH wouldn't survive refunding a total loss. Luckily the worst case is usually just long delays.Yeah, I could see that. I think it was a poor idea for him to run it if they don't have the capital to do refunds anyways.Sure. And then what about the others. And claims of favoritism. And resentment in the community. Etc. I don't know. It's just not as easy to do. If refunds are given, a lump total sum to all is best. And again, if it's not completely his fault, it's an unfair financial burden to lay at one person in a teams feet.He could have used the money from the protos to at least refund a few people.I mean he definitely shouldn't go back and say he'll get there money back if he simply can't get their money back. Apparently the cost is sunk. He can't just materialize cash. He can run this GB and try to pay them back with the profits, but the design and cost he's expecting it won't be nearly enough to actually pay them.I'm slightly confused here about whos job it was to communicate updates to the public. If it is true that the GB runner for this project was only working as a designer on the 60S why would he be involved in any of the stuff that went south? ( Communication, production etc.) It seems to me that you are holding him responsible for all the things that went wrong eventhough those weren't the areas he was working in. From what I can tell there weren't any problems with the design. And how could he have communicated updates about the manufacturing process if he himself couldn't reach the person in charge?He could at least respond to buyers saying he left the project and what he is going to do to have their money back. Though.
Not saying any of this excuses whatever role he had. But I'd rather take silence then promises of refunds which simply won't appear.
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That said maybe his reputation is just done for at this point and it's time for a new hobby. Lol.
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I'll repeat my point that one of his main reasonings behind delays previously were the low order numbers, so that doesnt support him well imo.
Also since no one brought this up yet, MAB had someone else make artisans for them and from what I heard did not pay the requested amount.Haha. Sounds about right. Next we'll find out there's a dog fighting ring under their office building. lol
Probably cats.Also since no one brought this up yet, MAB had someone else make artisans for them and from what I heard did not pay the requested amount.Haha. Sounds about right. Next we'll find out there's a dog fighting ring under their office building. lol
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Also since no one brought this up yet, MAB had someone else make artisans for them and from what I heard did not pay the requested amount.
The runaway keycap! Quick go catch it!Also since no one brought this up yet, MAB had someone else make artisans for them and from what I heard did not pay the requested amount.
Wouldnt surprise me.
Their explanation was that the artisan "Suddenly left them" lol
Dam what a **** show this has become. I read the other GB thread, is that other OP the same as this OP? It's such a nice design, I'm sad to see it go like this...Yes, I am sad too because of how such a good design it is. Maybe OP will surprise us and actually ship, its hard to say though.
Dam what a **** show this has become. I read the other GB thread, is that other OP the same as this OP? It's such a nice design, I'm sad to see it go like this...Yes, I am sad too because of how such a good design it is. Maybe OP will surprise us and actually ship, its hard to say though.
Let's see.
- Period of no contact for around 2 years
- Coming back as a completely new profile and hiding the only explanation in a show more section tucked in between a few things
- K3KC as a photographer
These kinds of things really don't instill confidence. Even if this is as you're explaining, and maybe you aren't at fault, shouldn't you have come back and explained that in the 60s thread here? Maybe not just leave people hanging after randomly popping into a thread that you abandoned 2 separate times?
Plus, last time you blamed delays on low order numbers and a negative paypal balance. Won't both of those be a problem here considering you're ordering 10-15 units, and have already said something about a negative paypal balance?
Even if this isn't a scam, we should not support him for his past actions.Dam what a **** show this has become. I read the other GB thread, is that other OP the same as this OP? It's such a nice design, I'm sad to see it go like this...Yes, I am sad too because of how such a good design it is. Maybe OP will surprise us and actually ship, its hard to say though.
Yeah but I feel like OP has been putting way too much effort for this to be a scam. Unless its something I'm missing, but isn't this heading for a third or fourth prototype? Plus its a 10-15 group buy run, I really don't see the potential for much profit if this were a scam, what would be the point? I could be blind to something but spending so much time and effort prototyping and redesigning for a 10 spot scam seems counterproductive...
Dam what a **** show this has become. I read the other GB thread, is that other OP the same as this OP? It's such a nice design, I'm sad to see it go like this...Yes, I am sad too because of how such a good design it is. Maybe OP will surprise us and actually ship, its hard to say though.
Yeah but I feel like OP has been putting way too much effort for this to be a scam. Unless its something I'm missing, but isn't this heading for a third or fourth prototype? Plus its a 10-15 group buy run, I really don't see the potential for much profit if this were a scam, what would be the point? I could be blind to something but spending so much time and effort prototyping and redesigning for a 10 spot scam seems counterproductive...
Could you do something in stock maybe? So people can chargeback if you don't ship at least.
Let's see.
- Period of no contact for around 2 years
- Coming back as a completely new profile and hiding the only explanation in a show more section tucked in between a few things
- K3KC as a photographer
These kinds of things really don't instill confidence. Even if this is as you're explaining, and maybe you aren't at fault, shouldn't you have come back and explained that in the 60s thread here? Maybe not just leave people hanging after randomly popping into a thread that you abandoned 2 separate times?
Plus, last time you blamed delays on low order numbers and a negative paypal balance. Won't both of those be a problem here considering you're ordering 10-15 units, and have already said something about a negative paypal balance?
I like I said, I am the designer for MAB. And I did not decide the finances for the past, all I covered for the MAB team at that time was completely brotherly relationship. But it is clear that my beliefs have been misplaced.
As I said at the beginning of the IC, I met and convinced Loka Space (the manufacturer I was working with) to give me the privilege to produce small quantities. This can be witnessed in the local community, where Loka Space has just assured me.
Because of that, I was able to make 3 prototypes so fast, you can check the number of days I open the IC and change the design.
In the end, I didn't really understand the "K3KC" paragraph. I don't understand if I have anything to do with K3KC, as far as I know, k3kc has been a brand for a long time to clone artisan, but at this time it is not clear whether it will work or not.
Could you do something in stock maybe? So people can chargeback if you don't ship at least.
Let's see.
- Period of no contact for around 2 years
- Coming back as a completely new profile and hiding the only explanation in a show more section tucked in between a few things
- K3KC as a photographer
These kinds of things really don't instill confidence. Even if this is as you're explaining, and maybe you aren't at fault, shouldn't you have come back and explained that in the 60s thread here? Maybe not just leave people hanging after randomly popping into a thread that you abandoned 2 separate times?
Plus, last time you blamed delays on low order numbers and a negative paypal balance. Won't both of those be a problem here considering you're ordering 10-15 units, and have already said something about a negative paypal balance?
I like I said, I am the designer for MAB. And I did not decide the finances for the past, all I covered for the MAB team at that time was completely brotherly relationship. But it is clear that my beliefs have been misplaced.
As I said at the beginning of the IC, I met and convinced Loka Space (the manufacturer I was working with) to give me the privilege to produce small quantities. This can be witnessed in the local community, where Loka Space has just assured me.
Because of that, I was able to make 3 prototypes so fast, you can check the number of days I open the IC and change the design.
In the end, I didn't really understand the "K3KC" paragraph. I don't understand if I have anything to do with K3KC, as far as I know, k3kc has been a brand for a long time to clone artisan, but at this time it is not clear whether it will work or not.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAkH_B3AcbE/You did not respond to what I said, could you work with a trusted vendor and not have any part with handling money or work with the manufacturer.
Take a look at my prototype. With the way of making wire edm to get this logo, the price for TOP plate is extremely expensive and if there are only 5 boards, my sponsor has no way for me to do that. Because I promise there will be at least 10 boards when I open gb.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAkH_B3AcbE/You did not respond to what I said, could you work with a trusted vendor and not have any part with handling money or work with the manufacturer.
Take a look at my prototype. With the way of making wire edm to get this logo, the price for TOP plate is extremely expensive and if there are only 5 boards, my sponsor has no way for me to do that. Because I promise there will be at least 10 boards when I open gb.
If a vendor doesn't want to work with you, I think you have a serious problem. Just sell the design to them and have no involvement if you can't find a trustworthy vendor.https://www.instagram.com/p/CAkH_B3AcbE/You did not respond to what I said, could you work with a trusted vendor and not have any part with handling money or work with the manufacturer.
Take a look at my prototype. With the way of making wire edm to get this logo, the price for TOP plate is extremely expensive and if there are only 5 boards, my sponsor has no way for me to do that. Because I promise there will be at least 10 boards when I open gb.
Of course it is, obviously being sponsored by a vendor is terrific. But who? Who wants to do with someone who is in position like me?
Sell design?I have, and know people who have sold designs to vendors.
You've never designed anything with all your enthusiasm, have you?
I won't answer you again, because the focus of this conversation is one thing. You want me to end, and you want me to take responsibility for what I don't do.So you are ghosting and will not help anyone if they have issues. Nice.
You argue here not because of the keyboard, nor because of everyone. You are here because you believe you are justice, and those you consider to have every sin must pay for your ego.
The ORI design is mine, and will be owned by me from start to finish. Even if it's this hard. I've put all my effort into doing everything I can.
I won't say anything more about drama, and just update here about prototypes.
In the end, when everything was done. Money is in everyone's hands, and it's up to everyone to decide whether or not to buy it.
I won't answer you again, because the focus of this conversation is one thing. You want me to end, and you want me to take responsibility for what I don't do.So you are ghosting and will not help anyone if they have issues. Nice.
You argue here not because of the keyboard, nor because of everyone. You are here because you believe you are justice, and those you consider to have every sin must pay for your ego.
The ORI design is mine, and will be owned by me from start to finish. Even if it's this hard. I've put all my effort into doing everything I can.
I won't say anything more about drama, and just update here about prototypes.
In the end, when everything was done. Money is in everyone's hands, and it's up to everyone to decide whether or not to buy it.
I won't answer you again, because the focus of this conversation is one thing. You want me to end, and you want me to take responsibility for what I don't do.So you are ghosting and will not help anyone if they have issues. Nice.
You argue here not because of the keyboard, nor because of everyone. You are here because you believe you are justice, and those you consider to have every sin must pay for your ego.
The ORI design is mine, and will be owned by me from start to finish. Even if it's this hard. I've put all my effort into doing everything I can.
I won't say anything more about drama, and just update here about prototypes.
In the end, when everything was done. Money is in everyone's hands, and it's up to everyone to decide whether or not to buy it.
I won't answer you again, because the focus of this conversation is one thing. You want me to end, and you want me to take responsibility for what I don't do.So you are ghosting and will not help anyone if they have issues. Nice.
You argue here not because of the keyboard, nor because of everyone. You are here because you believe you are justice, and those you consider to have every sin must pay for your ego.
The ORI design is mine, and will be owned by me from start to finish. Even if it's this hard. I've put all my effort into doing everything I can.
I won't say anything more about drama, and just update here about prototypes.
In the end, when everything was done. Money is in everyone's hands, and it's up to everyone to decide whether or not to buy it.
You should be ghosted with your attitude and only blowing the hot air wanting the room to explode.
It's not if you are right or wrong or what you say makes or does not make sense it is just your extreme toxic attitude.
Also, you are known in the community to stir **** up so yeah again should have been ghosted from first post.
I won't answer you again, because the focus of this conversation is one thing. You want me to end, and you want me to take responsibility for what I don't do.So you are ghosting and will not help anyone if they have issues. Nice.
You argue here not because of the keyboard, nor because of everyone. You are here because you believe you are justice, and those you consider to have every sin must pay for your ego.
The ORI design is mine, and will be owned by me from start to finish. Even if it's this hard. I've put all my effort into doing everything I can.
I won't say anything more about drama, and just update here about prototypes.
In the end, when everything was done. Money is in everyone's hands, and it's up to everyone to decide whether or not to buy it.
You should be ghosted with your attitude and only blowing the hot air wanting the room to explode.
It's not if you are right or wrong or what you say makes or does not make sense it is just your extreme toxic attitude.
Also, you are known in the community to stir **** up so yeah again should have been ghosted from first post.
**** stirring or not, radomly coming back to the forums with a new username after 2 years and posting a new board to buy, kinda sus. Whatever opinion you have on logo, it's still fair to warn potential buyers here.
I won't answer you again, because the focus of this conversation is one thing. You want me to end, and you want me to take responsibility for what I don't do.So you are ghosting and will not help anyone if they have issues. Nice.
You argue here not because of the keyboard, nor because of everyone. You are here because you believe you are justice, and those you consider to have every sin must pay for your ego.
The ORI design is mine, and will be owned by me from start to finish. Even if it's this hard. I've put all my effort into doing everything I can.
I won't say anything more about drama, and just update here about prototypes.
In the end, when everything was done. Money is in everyone's hands, and it's up to everyone to decide whether or not to buy it.
You should be ghosted with your attitude and only blowing the hot air wanting the room to explode.
It's not if you are right or wrong or what you say makes or does not make sense it is just your extreme toxic attitude.
Also, you are known in the community to stir **** up so yeah again should have been ghosted from first post.
**** stirring or not, radomly coming back to the forums with a new username after 2 years and posting a new board to buy, kinda sus. Whatever opinion you have on logo, it's still fair to warn potential buyers here.
How about presenting evidence and educating people in a respectful manner. I for one still don't see how he benefited from the 60S failing or how he was responsible for it. Putting out a huge red text when all you have is an old GH thread and some hearsay info is not how you tackle such an issue.
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I have no idea who you are, but don't most people stir up **** lol.I won't answer you again, because the focus of this conversation is one thing. You want me to end, and you want me to take responsibility for what I don't do.So you are ghosting and will not help anyone if they have issues. Nice.
You argue here not because of the keyboard, nor because of everyone. You are here because you believe you are justice, and those you consider to have every sin must pay for your ego.
The ORI design is mine, and will be owned by me from start to finish. Even if it's this hard. I've put all my effort into doing everything I can.
I won't say anything more about drama, and just update here about prototypes.
In the end, when everything was done. Money is in everyone's hands, and it's up to everyone to decide whether or not to buy it.
You should be ghosted with your attitude and only blowing the hot air wanting the room to explode.
It's not if you are right or wrong or what you say makes or does not make sense it is just your extreme toxic attitude.
Also, you are known in the community to stir **** up so yeah again should have been ghosted from first post.
I won't answer you again, because the focus of this conversation is one thing. You want me to end, and you want me to take responsibility for what I don't do.So you are ghosting and will not help anyone if they have issues. Nice.
You argue here not because of the keyboard, nor because of everyone. You are here because you believe you are justice, and those you consider to have every sin must pay for your ego.
The ORI design is mine, and will be owned by me from start to finish. Even if it's this hard. I've put all my effort into doing everything I can.
I won't say anything more about drama, and just update here about prototypes.
In the end, when everything was done. Money is in everyone's hands, and it's up to everyone to decide whether or not to buy it.
You should be ghosted with your attitude and only blowing the hot air wanting the room to explode.
It's not if you are right or wrong or what you say makes or does not make sense it is just your extreme toxic attitude.
Also, you are known in the community to stir **** up so yeah again should have been ghosted from first post.
**** stirring or not, radomly coming back to the forums with a new username after 2 years and posting a new board to buy, kinda sus. Whatever opinion you have on logo, it's still fair to warn potential buyers here.
How about presenting evidence and educating people in a respectful manner. I for one still don't see how he benefited from the 60S failing or how he was responsible for it. Putting out a huge red text when all you have is an old GH thread and some hearsay info is not how you tackle such an issue.
That GH thread should be all you need to be extremely weary here honestly.
Typically you don't forget about fleeing a ship for two years after it happened.I won't answer you again, because the focus of this conversation is one thing. You want me to end, and you want me to take responsibility for what I don't do.So you are ghosting and will not help anyone if they have issues. Nice.
You argue here not because of the keyboard, nor because of everyone. You are here because you believe you are justice, and those you consider to have every sin must pay for your ego.
The ORI design is mine, and will be owned by me from start to finish. Even if it's this hard. I've put all my effort into doing everything I can.
I won't say anything more about drama, and just update here about prototypes.
In the end, when everything was done. Money is in everyone's hands, and it's up to everyone to decide whether or not to buy it.
You should be ghosted with your attitude and only blowing the hot air wanting the room to explode.
It's not if you are right or wrong or what you say makes or does not make sense it is just your extreme toxic attitude.
Also, you are known in the community to stir **** up so yeah again should have been ghosted from first post.
**** stirring or not, radomly coming back to the forums with a new username after 2 years and posting a new board to buy, kinda sus. Whatever opinion you have on logo, it's still fair to warn potential buyers here.
How about presenting evidence and educating people in a respectful manner. I for one still don't see how he benefited from the 60S failing or how he was responsible for it. Putting out a huge red text when all you have is an old GH thread and some hearsay info is not how you tackle such an issue.
That GH thread should be all you need to be extremely weary here honestly.
I am weary but I currently see a guy who quit a project he was working on and failed to communicate his departure with the people that were relying on him. As bad as that is, the facts presented to not indicate it was his fault the GB actually failed or that he scammed people. It seems to me that he just fled a sinking ship and forgot to inform the passengers.
I won't answer you again, because the focus of this conversation is one thing. You want me to end, and you want me to take responsibility for what I don't do.So you are ghosting and will not help anyone if they have issues. Nice.
You argue here not because of the keyboard, nor because of everyone. You are here because you believe you are justice, and those you consider to have every sin must pay for your ego.
The ORI design is mine, and will be owned by me from start to finish. Even if it's this hard. I've put all my effort into doing everything I can.
I won't say anything more about drama, and just update here about prototypes.
In the end, when everything was done. Money is in everyone's hands, and it's up to everyone to decide whether or not to buy it.
You should be ghosted with your attitude and only blowing the hot air wanting the room to explode.
It's not if you are right or wrong or what you say makes or does not make sense it is just your extreme toxic attitude.
Also, you are known in the community to stir **** up so yeah again should have been ghosted from first post.
**** stirring or not, radomly coming back to the forums with a new username after 2 years and posting a new board to buy, kinda sus. Whatever opinion you have on logo, it's still fair to warn potential buyers here.
How about presenting evidence and educating people in a respectful manner. I for one still don't see how he benefited from the 60S failing or how he was responsible for it. Putting out a huge red text when all you have is an old GH thread and some hearsay info is not how you tackle such an issue.
That GH thread should be all you need to be extremely weary here honestly.
I am weary but I currently see a guy who quit a project he was working on and failed to communicate his departure with the people that were relying on him. As bad as that is, the facts presented to not indicate it was his fault the GB actually failed or that he scammed people. It seems to me that he just fled a sinking ship and forgot to inform the passengers.
I noticed some people mentioned it but isn't kind off a stretch to associate the logo of the keeb with the rising sun logo? They really don't look alike I had to look up the sun logo again because the keeb didn't look like what I remembered the rising sun logo looked like. Plus did anyone bring it up when he first announced the logo change? I feel like now that his past was brought up people are just jumping in all kinds of station wagons.I don't think its intentional, just a bad move.
I noticed some people mentioned it but isn't kind off a stretch to associate the logo of the keeb with the rising sun logo? They really don't look alike I had to look up the sun logo again because the keeb didn't look like what I remembered the rising sun logo looked like. Plus did anyone bring it up when he first announced the logo change? I feel like now that his past was brought up people are just jumping in all kinds of station wagons.
I actually agree with you lolI noticed some people mentioned it but isn't kind off a stretch to associate the logo of the keeb with the rising sun logo? They really don't look alike I had to look up the sun logo again because the keeb didn't look like what I remembered the rising sun logo looked like. Plus did anyone bring it up when he first announced the logo change? I feel like now that his past was brought up people are just jumping in all kinds of station wagons.
+1
I won't answer you again, because the focus of this conversation is one thing. You want me to end, and you want me to take responsibility for what I don't do.So you are ghosting and will not help anyone if they have issues. Nice.
You argue here not because of the keyboard, nor because of everyone. You are here because you believe you are justice, and those you consider to have every sin must pay for your ego.
The ORI design is mine, and will be owned by me from start to finish. Even if it's this hard. I've put all my effort into doing everything I can.
I won't say anything more about drama, and just update here about prototypes.
In the end, when everything was done. Money is in everyone's hands, and it's up to everyone to decide whether or not to buy it.
You should be ghosted with your attitude and only blowing the hot air wanting the room to explode.
It's not if you are right or wrong or what you say makes or does not make sense it is just your extreme toxic attitude.
Also, you are known in the community to stir **** up so yeah again should have been ghosted from first post.
**** stirring or not, radomly coming back to the forums with a new username after 2 years and posting a new board to buy, kinda sus. Whatever opinion you have on logo, it's still fair to warn potential buyers here.
How about presenting evidence and educating people in a respectful manner. I for one still don't see how he benefited from the 60S failing or how he was responsible for it. Putting out a huge red text when all you have is an old GH thread and some hearsay info is not how you tackle such an issue.
That GH thread should be all you need to be extremely weary here honestly.
I am weary but I currently see a guy who quit a project he was working on and failed to communicate his departure with the people that were relying on him. As bad as that is, the facts presented to not indicate it was his fault the GB actually failed or that he scammed people. It seems to me that he just fled a sinking ship and forgot to inform the passengers.
So you're ready to accept one persons word with no evidence, but not another's? As far as I'm concerned I have no way of determining if this guy truly had nothing to do with the failings in the last buy. All I know is he was the only contact, and he ghosted people in a buy, then showed up 2 years later with a "sorry, also here's a new board to buy".
I won't answer you again, because the focus of this conversation is one thing. You want me to end, and you want me to take responsibility for what I don't do.So you are ghosting and will not help anyone if they have issues. Nice.
You argue here not because of the keyboard, nor because of everyone. You are here because you believe you are justice, and those you consider to have every sin must pay for your ego.
The ORI design is mine, and will be owned by me from start to finish. Even if it's this hard. I've put all my effort into doing everything I can.
I won't say anything more about drama, and just update here about prototypes.
In the end, when everything was done. Money is in everyone's hands, and it's up to everyone to decide whether or not to buy it.
You should be ghosted with your attitude and only blowing the hot air wanting the room to explode.
It's not if you are right or wrong or what you say makes or does not make sense it is just your extreme toxic attitude.
Also, you are known in the community to stir **** up so yeah again should have been ghosted from first post.
**** stirring or not, radomly coming back to the forums with a new username after 2 years and posting a new board to buy, kinda sus. Whatever opinion you have on logo, it's still fair to warn potential buyers here.
How about presenting evidence and educating people in a respectful manner. I for one still don't see how he benefited from the 60S failing or how he was responsible for it. Putting out a huge red text when all you have is an old GH thread and some hearsay info is not how you tackle such an issue.
That GH thread should be all you need to be extremely weary here honestly.
I am weary but I currently see a guy who quit a project he was working on and failed to communicate his departure with the people that were relying on him. As bad as that is, the facts presented to not indicate it was his fault the GB actually failed or that he scammed people. It seems to me that he just fled a sinking ship and forgot to inform the passengers.
So you're ready to accept one persons word with no evidence, but not another's? As far as I'm concerned I have no way of determining if this guy truly had nothing to do with the failings in the last buy. All I know is he was the only contact, and he ghosted people in a buy, then showed up 2 years later with a "sorry, also here's a new board to buy".
Honestly since I don't have anything to go by for the 60S situation I mainly look at this IC. He has put alot of energy into delivering promising prototypes and if the soundtest and final design holds up to those standards I will prioritize that over some hearsay.
I actually agree with you lolI noticed some people mentioned it but isn't kind off a stretch to associate the logo of the keeb with the rising sun logo? They really don't look alike I had to look up the sun logo again because the keeb didn't look like what I remembered the rising sun logo looked like. Plus did anyone bring it up when he first announced the logo change? I feel like now that his past was brought up people are just jumping in all kinds of station wagons.
+1
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Well said my man, well said
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Wow, I don't understand what is happening, the last time I read this thread, everyone was stoked about the prototypes. lolHe is a past scam artist, his intentions might not be to scam. But who knows if it will ship.
even if he isn't a scammer, why would anyone buy a board with practically a huge nazi sign on the bottom part of the case?I would like to know if it was intentional or not.
what are you even saying? it's not the imperial japan flag. it's just... their current flag...Their current flag doesn't have lines beaming through it lol. I don't know much about the topic though.
even if he isn't a scammer, why would anyone buy a board with practically a huge nazi sign on the bottom part of the case?
even if he isn't a scammer, why would anyone buy a board with practically a huge nazi sign on the bottom part of the case?I would like to know if it was intentional or not.what are you even saying? it's not the imperial japan flag. it's just... their current flag...Their current flag doesn't have lines beaming through it lol. I don't know much about the topic though.
Yeah, I don't really know about it.even if he isn't a scammer, why would anyone buy a board with practically a huge nazi sign on the bottom part of the case?I would like to know if it was intentional or not.what are you even saying? it's not the imperial japan flag. it's just... their current flag...Their current flag doesn't have lines beaming through it lol. I don't know much about the topic though.
"Nazi symbol" lmao.
It's the current japanese navy forces flag.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Maritime_Self-Defense_Force
But imho the logo that is on the bottom weigth isn't even close to it... :confused:
you should shut the **** up.I won't answer you again, because the focus of this conversation is one thing. You want me to end, and you want me to take responsibility for what I don't do.So you are ghosting and will not help anyone if they have issues. Nice.
You argue here not because of the keyboard, nor because of everyone. You are here because you believe you are justice, and those you consider to have every sin must pay for your ego.
The ORI design is mine, and will be owned by me from start to finish. Even if it's this hard. I've put all my effort into doing everything I can.
I won't say anything more about drama, and just update here about prototypes.
In the end, when everything was done. Money is in everyone's hands, and it's up to everyone to decide whether or not to buy it.
By the way, everyone here who is defending them is on the Ori discord talking to the creator. They are all connected lol. I got banned after I said Hi All. Oh well
I'm getting most of my information from friends, I am tired of this and am only going to respond to questions others asked. I hope someone in the vietnam community who has worked with him can respond. I didn't really want this to be debated. Heck, I only posted it because someone told me to. I just wanted to tell people to not support this guy. I hope he ships to his customers, and we can trust him for future buys. I just don't think he can be trusted, and he is open about disliking his local community. Their community doesn't like him, and I think there is a reason for that. Please PM me on geekhack or discord if you want to talk more.By the way, everyone here who is defending them is on the Ori discord talking to the creator. They are all connected lol. I got banned after I said Hi All. Oh well
Lol. I'm on his discord talking to him. Time to quit your conspiracy theory ****. I mean all of it is probably true, but your turning into a massive drama queen. Is it that shocking that people who are defending him are also wanting to buy his keyboard and on his discord (which was started during this IC)? Good lord. And of course you'd be blocked. I doubt you'd last 5 minutes before bringing up this ad nauseam again.
Just curious but I thought the designer simply gives the permission to vendors to do gb(collecting money from buyers and send it to manufacture), like keycaps gb, without permission from Olivia for example, we wouldn't have GMK olivia++, so it is not like selling one's design, right?
Usually yeah, but there is a few exceptions. Some people don't want to worry about it so they just have someone take it over.Just curious but I thought the designer simply gives the permission to vendors to do gb(collecting money from buyers and send it to manufacture), like keycaps gb, without permission from Olivia for example, we wouldn't have GMK olivia++, so it is not like selling one's design, right?
Yeah, as I understand it, working with a vendor is more about money collection and sorting distribution costs to different regions, not actually selling someone's design or other form of intellectual property. GMK still produces GB GMK sets, no matter if it's Cannon Keys or zFrontier collecting the funds.
+1even if he isn't a scammer, why would anyone buy a board with practically a huge nazi sign on the bottom part of the case?
Man comparing it to a nazi sign is mighty long bridge. I can understand where you might believe it looks like the Imperial Flag but it's still a stretch. Are we just going to start calling every circle with lines a symbol on the level of the nazi swastika? It's nonsensical because that weight doesn't really look like it.
Don’t be rude buddy. I’m firmly stay here at the middle of this thunderstorm.By the way, everyone here who is defending them is on the Ori discord talking to the creator. They are all connected lol. I got banned after I said Hi All. Oh well
Lol. I'm on his discord talking to him. Time to quit your conspiracy theory ****. I mean all of it is probably true, but your turning into a massive drama queen. Is it that shocking that people who are defending him are also wanting to buy his keyboard and on his discord (which was started during this IC)? Good lord. And of course you'd be blocked. I doubt you'd last 5 minutes before bringing up this ad nauseam again.
Don’t be rude buddy. I’m firmly stay here at the middle of this thunderstorm.By the way, everyone here who is defending them is on the Ori discord talking to the creator. They are all connected lol. I got banned after I said Hi All. Oh well
Lol. I'm on his discord talking to him. Time to quit your conspiracy theory ****. I mean all of it is probably true, but your turning into a massive drama queen. Is it that shocking that people who are defending him are also wanting to buy his keyboard and on his discord (which was started during this IC)? Good lord. And of course you'd be blocked. I doubt you'd last 5 minutes before bringing up this ad nauseam again.
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Have you read my response yet or just reading and remembering what you wanna debate mate? Scroll up a lil bit. I’m your Vietnamese collector who have observed since this design have been given birth infancy and I truly believe they are no longer related to the other. The other here who took all the funds seems like the one who ran the C21 GB.I'm getting most of my information from friends, I am tired of this and am only going to respond to questions others asked. I hope someone in the vietnam community who has worked with him can respond. I didn't really want this to be debated. Heck, I only posted it because someone told me to. I just wanted to tell people to not support this guy. I hope he ships to his customers, and we can trust him for future buys. I just don't think he can be trusted, and he is open about disliking his local community. Their community doesn't like him, and I think there is a reason for that. Please PM me on geekhack or discord if you want to talk more.By the way, everyone here who is defending them is on the Ori discord talking to the creator. They are all connected lol. I got banned after I said Hi All. Oh well
Lol. I'm on his discord talking to him. Time to quit your conspiracy theory ****. I mean all of it is probably true, but your turning into a massive drama queen. Is it that shocking that people who are defending him are also wanting to buy his keyboard and on his discord (which was started during this IC)? Good lord. And of course you'd be blocked. I doubt you'd last 5 minutes before bringing up this ad nauseam again.
That was just me being stupid.Don’t be rude buddy. I’m firmly stay here at the middle of this thunderstorm.By the way, everyone here who is defending them is on the Ori discord talking to the creator. They are all connected lol. I got banned after I said Hi All. Oh well
Lol. I'm on his discord talking to him. Time to quit your conspiracy theory ****. I mean all of it is probably true, but your turning into a massive drama queen. Is it that shocking that people who are defending him are also wanting to buy his keyboard and on his discord (which was started during this IC)? Good lord. And of course you'd be blocked. I doubt you'd last 5 minutes before bringing up this ad nauseam again.
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I'm sorry but when people start making assumptions like everyone defending him must be on his private server and therefor part of the scam is taking it a little too far. The other guy calling people retarded is taking it much further than I am...
I meant someone who has bought stuff from him or made stuff for him.Have you read my response yet or just reading and remembering what you wanna debate mate? Scroll up a lil bit. I’m your Vietnamese collector who have observed since this design have been given birth infancy and I truly believe they are no longer related to the other. The other here who took all the funds seems like the one who ran the C21 GB.I'm getting most of my information from friends, I am tired of this and am only going to respond to questions others asked. I hope someone in the vietnam community who has worked with him can respond. I didn't really want this to be debated. Heck, I only posted it because someone told me to. I just wanted to tell people to not support this guy. I hope he ships to his customers, and we can trust him for future buys. I just don't think he can be trusted, and he is open about disliking his local community. Their community doesn't like him, and I think there is a reason for that. Please PM me on geekhack or discord if you want to talk more.By the way, everyone here who is defending them is on the Ori discord talking to the creator. They are all connected lol. I got banned after I said Hi All. Oh well
Lol. I'm on his discord talking to him. Time to quit your conspiracy theory ****. I mean all of it is probably true, but your turning into a massive drama queen. Is it that shocking that people who are defending him are also wanting to buy his keyboard and on his discord (which was started during this IC)? Good lord. And of course you'd be blocked. I doubt you'd last 5 minutes before bringing up this ad nauseam again.
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That was just me being stupid.Don’t be rude buddy. I’m firmly stay here at the middle of this thunderstorm.By the way, everyone here who is defending them is on the Ori discord talking to the creator. They are all connected lol. I got banned after I said Hi All. Oh well
Lol. I'm on his discord talking to him. Time to quit your conspiracy theory ****. I mean all of it is probably true, but your turning into a massive drama queen. Is it that shocking that people who are defending him are also wanting to buy his keyboard and on his discord (which was started during this IC)? Good lord. And of course you'd be blocked. I doubt you'd last 5 minutes before bringing up this ad nauseam again.
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I'm sorry but when people start making assumptions like everyone defending him must be on his private server and therefor part of the scam is taking it a little too far. The other guy calling people retarded is taking it much further than I am...
wow nice arguments you got there kiddo. really grown up discussion. not.you should shut the **** up.I won't answer you again, because the focus of this conversation is one thing. You want me to end, and you want me to take responsibility for what I don't do.So you are ghosting and will not help anyone if they have issues. Nice.
You argue here not because of the keyboard, nor because of everyone. You are here because you believe you are justice, and those you consider to have every sin must pay for your ego.
The ORI design is mine, and will be owned by me from start to finish. Even if it's this hard. I've put all my effort into doing everything I can.
I won't say anything more about drama, and just update here about prototypes.
In the end, when everything was done. Money is in everyone's hands, and it's up to everyone to decide whether or not to buy it.
As long as he did not receive any money seems to be somewhat innocent.
Dear all,
I create this topic to explain all problems. First, wading back to the time of MAB, MAB consists of 3 members: Tuan Anh, Vu and me.
I was invited into the team as a designer. Vu (make pcb) joined the team later only when beginning opening GB R96.
It is the fact that my role is only to design, Vu’s is to make pcb and Tuan Anh is totally in charge of machining.
The cash flow of MAB was set: Paypal (mine) -> currency conversion -> give Tuan Anh to pay for machining factory.
I GAVE ALL THE MONEY RECEIVED TO TUAN ANH with a promise of 10% GB but never ever happened.
And I never ever receive any money of R96, 60S, rose.
Matter arising when finishing anodizing R96, some of pieces was failed and had to remake. During that time, Tuan Anh on his own sold R96 for others (even though who hadn’t follow GB)
It resulted in short of goods and money is only Tuan Anh knew.
Then, opening new GB of 60S to make up for R96 loss.
(Even at this time, I didn’t receive any money as salary or commission)
My paypal now is claim up to -3700$ but contacting Tuan Anh just receive nothing.
After 60S, I left MAB (If still called a team) because I didn’t agree with that working way. And I have worked in another field for a long time and didn’t think about making keyboard anymore.
I want to make clear that I never ever received any money of any GB of MAB and have no idea of cash flow at that time.
If I open GB ORI just due to money or scam or something else, I don’t have to use my true account? I can stand under another’s name, is it much more easier?
About ORI, I have done 2 prototypes and nearly get 1 more to make sure about the quality.
ORI is my design and LOKA is manufacturer. In addition, LOKA and I signed legal contract.
I have talked all what related to me above. I lost money, lost reputation, lost time. For the time beings, even in difficulty I didn’t bring this story to get the community’s tear. But this time, everything goes too far, when some people don’t consider or maybe hate me and try to ruin me.
Now, it does not influence only me but also LOKA that support me very well.
In conclusion, this is my first as well as my last time to make an explanation about MAB and me. Everything is true or not, many people know.
I mean he did say in this IC first post that he was full of regret about his involvement and was sorry. He may have not explained it in detail, but it's not like he said nothing.As long as he did not receive any money seems to be somewhat innocent.
Dear all,
I create this topic to explain all problems. First, wading back to the time of MAB, MAB consists of 3 members: Tuan Anh, Vu and me.
I was invited into the team as a designer. Vu (make pcb) joined the team later only when beginning opening GB R96.
It is the fact that my role is only to design, Vu’s is to make pcb and Tuan Anh is totally in charge of machining.
The cash flow of MAB was set: Paypal (mine) -> currency conversion -> give Tuan Anh to pay for machining factory.
I GAVE ALL THE MONEY RECEIVED TO TUAN ANH with a promise of 10% GB but never ever happened.
And I never ever receive any money of R96, 60S, rose.
Matter arising when finishing anodizing R96, some of pieces was failed and had to remake. During that time, Tuan Anh on his own sold R96 for others (even though who hadn’t follow GB)
It resulted in short of goods and money is only Tuan Anh knew.
Then, opening new GB of 60S to make up for R96 loss.
(Even at this time, I didn’t receive any money as salary or commission)
My paypal now is claim up to -3700$ but contacting Tuan Anh just receive nothing.
After 60S, I left MAB (If still called a team) because I didn’t agree with that working way. And I have worked in another field for a long time and didn’t think about making keyboard anymore.
I want to make clear that I never ever received any money of any GB of MAB and have no idea of cash flow at that time.
If I open GB ORI just due to money or scam or something else, I don’t have to use my true account? I can stand under another’s name, is it much more easier?
About ORI, I have done 2 prototypes and nearly get 1 more to make sure about the quality.
ORI is my design and LOKA is manufacturer. In addition, LOKA and I signed legal contract.
I have talked all what related to me above. I lost money, lost reputation, lost time. For the time beings, even in difficulty I didn’t bring this story to get the community’s tear. But this time, everything goes too far, when some people don’t consider or maybe hate me and try to ruin me.
Now, it does not influence only me but also LOKA that support me very well.
In conclusion, this is my first as well as my last time to make an explanation about MAB and me. Everything is true or not, many people know.
we don't really know whether he did or not. all we know is that he was involved with a scandal and he never got in front of the issue with an explanation. he's only offering an explanation now after being exposed. you think he would've offered an explanation if no one had brought his past to light in this thread? no way.
I'm out. If people wanna risk it, I sincerely wish you good luck.
But comparing that bottom weight to genocide and swastika is ridiculous, get a grip.
The weight design looks very little like the old Japanese flag to me. How else are you meant to portray a rising sun geometrically? Next people are gonna say all things related to a rising sun are offensive when it should be beautiful. I am not a fan of the old Japanese flag but this just doesn't look like it. The Sun and rays are not red. The rays do not expand closer to the edges. They do not go 360 degrees around the sun. It just sounds like a wild witch hunt to me by some individuals who want to see this project fail and love drama because they have nothing better to do with their time.
As for the other drama, the information is out there and buyers can now make their own decisions.
The weight design looks very little like the old Japanese flag to me. How else are you meant to portray a rising sun geometrically? Next people are gonna say all things related to a rising sun are offensive when it should be beautiful. I am not a fan of the old Japanese flag but this just doesn't look like it. The Sun and rays are not red. The rays do not expand closer to the edges. They do not go 360 degrees around the sun. It just sounds like a wild witch hunt to me by some individuals who want to see this project fail and love drama because they have nothing better to do with their time.
As for the other drama, the information is out there and buyers can now make their own decisions.
Wild witch hunt may be part of it, but it was brought up earlier in the thread too by someone else. In the end if Bruce is OK redesigning the weight, I'm sure he'll come up with something else that's awesome, and it's an easy way to just avoid the issue.
Alright folks, I'm going to try to give a full story here, at least from my own perspective.Thank you! This was exactly the kind of input I was looking for. Definitely a level headed outsider take on the situation.
I am the founder of Team Mechlovin'. You may know us as runners of PCB Group buys, including the Hannah 910, Infinity CE and Adelais (Alice). I hope this adds credibility to my input.
I first came in contact with the OP 3 years ago, when he was still working for MAB (MakeABoard), which of course, is now considered the ultimate scam by the local community. We hardly ever talked because he came out as a reserved (and somehow arrogant) personality, which I didn't have a problem with because all designers I knew were like that. In fact, I was in much more regular contact on a personal basis with that team's PCB designer, who is now my sole partner and technical consultant on Team Mechlovin's projects.
At the time, I was interested in getting a R96, and was told by the then MAB leader (Tuan Anh) that they had an "extra". Of course, I realised months later that it was probably someone's GB unit...I had also purchased some random custom from them a few months before that, and for both times, every communication related to money went through Tuan Anh, not the OP (Bruce). When things fell out and MAB was exposed by the local community, Bruce was trying to defend his team and having heated arguments with other members, and he said some unsavoury things, which led to personal grudges until these days. From time to time, his name is brought up in online conversations as THE scammer, although his role in making MAB's financial decisions is very much up to debate. From my point of view, many of those personal attacks are merely fueled by the mentioned grudges.
A few months ago, he came to me for advice on this project due to the fact that I have been working with his former teammate on many successful GBs, and that I'm now the admin of a local mech community, separate from the one he fell out of favour a few years back. It's important to note that I had previously had face-to-face sessions with my partner about his involvement in MAB's shady business because I needed to understand who I was to work with, and naturally, Bruce's name came up as well in our conversations. From my partner's side of story, he was simply working for MAB as a PCB designer and never had any say in the financial aspects of the business. I trust my partner, completely. Later on, when I heard Bruce's story, many things checked out, including the part where he's still in debt worth thousands of USD in the form of Paypal chargeback, and he never received support from the one actually in charge of sales and finance, namely Tuan Anh.
So, how much did he know about the scamming activities and was he the one to blame in the total sh*tshow named MAB? I don't know for certain, and though I have information that forms my personal opinion towards this whole thing, it doesn't mean it has to be reflected onto yours. My first and only advice to him when he decided to come back, is that he must COME CLEAN and let the community decide. In his defence, he did mention where he comes from in the original post, but again, I agree that he should have told a clearer story right from the start, and he surely needs to work on his communication skills. One thing I can be certain of, is he's serious and passionate about this project, and excited about the prospect of coming back to the community.
That's all I have to say. In all honestly, if anyone is to give an objective input in this cluster of drama, I believe it's me, because of my knowledge of the people involved, and that I actually have something to lose here, namely my reputation as a GB runner. The rest, of course, is still up to you to decide.
Alright folks, I'm going to try to give a full story here, at least from my own perspective.
I am the founder of Team Mechlovin'. You may know us as runners of PCB Group buys, including the Hannah 910, Infinity CE and Adelais (Alice). I hope this adds credibility to my input.
I first came in contact with the OP 3 years ago, when he was still working for MAB (MakeABoard), which of course, is now considered the ultimate scam by the local community. We hardly ever talked because he came out as a reserved (and somehow arrogant) personality, which I didn't have a problem with because all designers I knew were like that. In fact, I was in much more regular contact on a personal basis with that team's PCB designer, who is now my sole partner and technical consultant on Team Mechlovin's projects.
At the time, I was interested in getting a R96, and was told by the then MAB leader (Tuan Anh) that they had an "extra". Of course, I realised months later that it was probably someone's GB unit...I had also purchased some random custom from them a few months before that, and for both times, every communication related to money went through Tuan Anh, not the OP (Bruce). When things fell out and MAB was exposed by the local community, Bruce was trying to defend his team and having heated arguments with other members, and he said some unsavoury things, which led to personal grudges until these days. From time to time, his name is brought up in online conversations as THE scammer, although his role in making MAB's financial decisions is very much up to debate. From my point of view, many of those personal attacks are merely fueled by the mentioned grudges.
A few months ago, he came to me for advice on this project due to the fact that I have been working with his former teammate on many successful GBs, and that I'm now the admin of a local mech community, separate from the one he fell out of favour a few years back. It's important to note that I had previously had face-to-face sessions with my partner about his involvement in MAB's shady business because I needed to understand who I was to work with, and naturally, Bruce's name came up as well in our conversations. From my partner's side of story, he was simply working for MAB as a PCB designer and never had any say in the financial aspects of the business. I trust my partner, completely. Later on, when I heard Bruce's story, many things checked out, including the part where he's still in debt worth thousands of USD in the form of Paypal chargeback, and he never received support from the one actually in charge of sales and finance, namely Tuan Anh.
So, how much did he know about the scamming activities and was he the one to blame in the total sh*tshow named MAB? I don't know for certain, and though I have information that forms my personal opinion towards this whole thing, it doesn't mean it has to be reflected onto yours. My first and only advice to him when he decided to come back, is that he must COME CLEAN and let the community decide. In his defence, he did mention where he comes from in the original post, but again, I agree that he should have told a clearer story right from the start, and he surely needs to work on his communication skills. One thing I can be certain of, is he's serious and passionate about this project, and excited about the prospect of coming back to the community.
That's all I have to say. In all honestly, if anyone is to give an objective input in this cluster of drama, I believe it's me, because of my knowledge of the people involved, and that I actually have something to lose here, namely my reputation as a GB runner. The rest, of course, is still up to you to decide.
Ok, I edited my first reply, but screw it.
It's pertinent.
And design-wise, a penis drawn in the golden ratio would have "purity," but is still a stupid thing to put on a keyboard.
So is anything alluding to Japanese imperialist symbols.
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Ok, I edited my first reply, but screw it.
It's pertinent.
And design-wise, a penis drawn in the golden ratio would have "purity," but is still a stupid thing to put on a keyboard.
So is anything alluding to Japanese imperialist symbols.
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I am very pleased to be working with GMK Sumi on social media. Thank you FaKe_VirTual (host gmk sumi) for trusting me.
Below is a combination of GMK Sumi and Ori 87, please enjoy.
Image rendered by kingk22.ORI X GMK SUMIAlbum: https://imgur.com/a/Qp1P5M1Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KsBkHVa.jpg)
More update for ORI 87:
Currently, I am still waiting for the 3rd prototype to be completed so I can test it again, recording video for sound tests.
Therefore, GB will not have a calendar if my product is not complete, if necessary will have a fourth prototype.
But, I will still predict the day for you to follow along:
- 12/6 : pick up prototype v3
- 13/6 : assemble
- 16/6 : Video sound test
- 18/6 : GB
Expected price : 550$ ( kit + TX bag )
The raffle will include:
• 15 slots for Worldwide [ Western union // Paypal ]
• 5 slots for local market ( VN) [ Western union // Cash ]
Vickrey Auctions :
• 2 slot after GB ( not sure )
Thank you for reading. :thumb:
Love, love, love this keyboard design.
Not too keen on the new diamond shaped sun.
While I can't ignore the feelings of those who understandably relate an Origami (Japanese) logo, combined with a red sun with rays emanating from it, to the Japanese naval flag or Japan's war crimes in WWII, I think maybe a semi-circle design could resolve this issue.
The centerline of the keyboard base basically functions as a horizon anyway, so showing a full circular sun seems a bit off designwise.
Another option might be something like this, where the bottom half is a kind of reflection in water:Show Image(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/Flag_of_Donetsk_Oblast.svg/1200px-Flag_of_Donetsk_Oblast.svg.png)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAkH_B3AcbE/You did not respond to what I said, could you work with a trusted vendor and not have any part with handling money or work with the manufacturer.
Take a look at my prototype. With the way of making wire edm to get this logo, the price for TOP plate is extremely expensive and if there are only 5 boards, my sponsor has no way for me to do that. Because I promise there will be at least 10 boards when I open gb.
Of course it is, obviously being sponsored by a vendor is terrific. But who? Who wants to do with someone who is in position like me?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAkH_B3AcbE/You did not respond to what I said, could you work with a trusted vendor and not have any part with handling money or work with the manufacturer.
Take a look at my prototype. With the way of making wire edm to get this logo, the price for TOP plate is extremely expensive and if there are only 5 boards, my sponsor has no way for me to do that. Because I promise there will be at least 10 boards when I open gb.
Of course it is, obviously being sponsored by a vendor is terrific. But who? Who wants to do with someone who is in position like me?
To my understanding you're looking to sell 22 boards, correct?
I /know/ they don't cost $550 USD but the entirety of the cost comes out to $12,100 USD + whatever shipping costs
22 spots, lets presume 50-70 USD in shipping -- maybe more.
The shipping can be done after we have products in hand.
If you can get me in touch with the manufacture and there's a way for you to legally involve me in both cost and contract, I will provide the entirety of the cost of the manufacturing process up front directly to the manufacture. Not to you. To the manufacture. If the money can be moved through a 3rd party, such a novelkey, prime, TX, whatever, the better. You said you cannot get any vendors to work with you, then work with me and let me ask around. I don't have any reputation here but if the manufacture can accept debit card (VISA), I can pay it all without an issue and I'm certain a vendor won't mind hosting it if we're reasonable with negotiations.
You can collect funds from people after the product has arrived and passed a quality check. If you can contact Novelkeyz, explain to them the situation, and have them offer to sell it on their website after I've paid the GB in its entirety and it goes up for sale to the public. There's probably a work around here.
Like I said, I can pay it. All of it. Up front.
We can discuss the rest in private.
Edit: To be clear, you can forward me not only my portion of the money once the GB concludes and everyone is equally protected by their PayPal rights because they can pay when the board is ready to be shipped but as well an agreeable % for me covering cost.
If you keep your group-buys small and honest, such as this one, I will gladly fund them until the community has confidence in your person.
If this makes the community feel more at ease, then I am willing to contribute.
In gist:
Give me design files + protos + manu contact. I want to see what I'm working with.
I will pay up front.
I find a 3rd party vendor to work with.
I'll pay someone experienced in the community and reputable with GB's to help with QC before taking money from people.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAkH_B3AcbE/You did not respond to what I said, could you work with a trusted vendor and not have any part with handling money or work with the manufacturer.
Take a look at my prototype. With the way of making wire edm to get this logo, the price for TOP plate is extremely expensive and if there are only 5 boards, my sponsor has no way for me to do that. Because I promise there will be at least 10 boards when I open gb.
Of course it is, obviously being sponsored by a vendor is terrific. But who? Who wants to do with someone who is in position like me?
To my understanding you're looking to sell 22 boards, correct?
I /know/ they don't cost $550 USD but the entirety of the cost comes out to $12,100 USD + whatever shipping costs
22 spots, lets presume 50-70 USD in shipping -- maybe more.
The shipping can be done after we have products in hand.
If you can get me in touch with the manufacture and there's a way for you to legally involve me in both cost and contract, I will provide the entirety of the cost of the manufacturing process up front directly to the manufacture. Not to you. To the manufacture. If the money can be moved through a 3rd party, such a novelkey, prime, TX, whatever, the better. You said you cannot get any vendors to work with you, then work with me and let me ask around. I don't have any reputation here but if the manufacture can accept debit card (VISA), I can pay it all without an issue and I'm certain a vendor won't mind hosting it if we're reasonable with negotiations.
You can collect funds from people after the product has arrived and passed a quality check. If you can contact Novelkeyz, explain to them the situation, and have them offer to sell it on their website after I've paid the GB in its entirety and it goes up for sale to the public. There's probably a work around here.
Like I said, I can pay it. All of it. Up front.
We can discuss the rest in private.
Edit: To be clear, you can forward me not only my portion of the money once the GB concludes and everyone is equally protected by their PayPal rights because they can pay when the board is ready to be shipped but as well an agreeable % for me covering cost.
If you keep your group-buys small and honest, such as this one, I will gladly fund them until the community has confidence in your person.
If this makes the community feel more at ease, then I am willing to contribute.
In gist:
Give me design files + protos + manu contact. I want to see what I'm working with.
I will pay up front.
I find a 3rd party vendor to work with.
I'll pay someone experienced in the community and reputable with GB's to help with QC before taking money from people.
https://imgur.com/a/CglZEvf
I feel like this image encompasses the fact that we can trust you about as much as the GB runner. No evidence at all of being a long standing member, no evidence of running a GB before. Really makes me think.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAkH_B3AcbE/You did not respond to what I said, could you work with a trusted vendor and not have any part with handling money or work with the manufacturer.
Take a look at my prototype. With the way of making wire edm to get this logo, the price for TOP plate is extremely expensive and if there are only 5 boards, my sponsor has no way for me to do that. Because I promise there will be at least 10 boards when I open gb.
Of course it is, obviously being sponsored by a vendor is terrific. But who? Who wants to do with someone who is in position like me?
To my understanding you're looking to sell 22 boards, correct?
I /know/ they don't cost $550 USD but the entirety of the cost comes out to $12,100 USD + whatever shipping costs
22 spots, lets presume 50-70 USD in shipping -- maybe more.
The shipping can be done after we have products in hand.
If you can get me in touch with the manufacture and there's a way for you to legally involve me in both cost and contract, I will provide the entirety of the cost of the manufacturing process up front directly to the manufacture. Not to you. To the manufacture. If the money can be moved through a 3rd party, such a novelkey, prime, TX, whatever, the better. You said you cannot get any vendors to work with you, then work with me and let me ask around. I don't have any reputation here but if the manufacture can accept debit card (VISA), I can pay it all without an issue and I'm certain a vendor won't mind hosting it if we're reasonable with negotiations.
You can collect funds from people after the product has arrived and passed a quality check. If you can contact Novelkeyz, explain to them the situation, and have them offer to sell it on their website after I've paid the GB in its entirety and it goes up for sale to the public. There's probably a work around here.
Like I said, I can pay it. All of it. Up front.
We can discuss the rest in private.
Edit: To be clear, you can forward me not only my portion of the money once the GB concludes and everyone is equally protected by their PayPal rights because they can pay when the board is ready to be shipped but as well an agreeable % for me covering cost.
If you keep your group-buys small and honest, such as this one, I will gladly fund them until the community has confidence in your person.
If this makes the community feel more at ease, then I am willing to contribute.
In gist:
Give me design files + protos + manu contact. I want to see what I'm working with.
I will pay up front.
I find a 3rd party vendor to work with.
I'll pay someone experienced in the community and reputable with GB's to help with QC before taking money from people.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAkH_B3AcbE/You did not respond to what I said, could you work with a trusted vendor and not have any part with handling money or work with the manufacturer.
Take a look at my prototype. With the way of making wire edm to get this logo, the price for TOP plate is extremely expensive and if there are only 5 boards, my sponsor has no way for me to do that. Because I promise there will be at least 10 boards when I open gb.
Of course it is, obviously being sponsored by a vendor is terrific. But who? Who wants to do with someone who is in position like me?
To my understanding you're looking to sell 22 boards, correct?
I /know/ they don't cost $550 USD but the entirety of the cost comes out to $12,100 USD + whatever shipping costs
22 spots, lets presume 50-70 USD in shipping -- maybe more.
The shipping can be done after we have products in hand.
If you can get me in touch with the manufacture and there's a way for you to legally involve me in both cost and contract, I will provide the entirety of the cost of the manufacturing process up front directly to the manufacture. Not to you. To the manufacture. If the money can be moved through a 3rd party, such a novelkey, prime, TX, whatever, the better. You said you cannot get any vendors to work with you, then work with me and let me ask around. I don't have any reputation here but if the manufacture can accept debit card (VISA), I can pay it all without an issue and I'm certain a vendor won't mind hosting it if we're reasonable with negotiations.
You can collect funds from people after the product has arrived and passed a quality check. If you can contact Novelkeyz, explain to them the situation, and have them offer to sell it on their website after I've paid the GB in its entirety and it goes up for sale to the public. There's probably a work around here.
Like I said, I can pay it. All of it. Up front.
We can discuss the rest in private.
Edit: To be clear, you can forward me not only my portion of the money once the GB concludes and everyone is equally protected by their PayPal rights because they can pay when the board is ready to be shipped but as well an agreeable % for me covering cost.
If you keep your group-buys small and honest, such as this one, I will gladly fund them until the community has confidence in your person.
If this makes the community feel more at ease, then I am willing to contribute.
In gist:
Give me design files + protos + manu contact. I want to see what I'm working with.
I will pay up front.
I find a 3rd party vendor to work with.
I'll pay someone experienced in the community and reputable with GB's to help with QC before taking money from people.
Im confused, the GMK Sumi render shows WKL Ori but ur layout picture says it doesnt do standard WKL, only the modified WKL.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAkH_B3AcbE/You did not respond to what I said, could you work with a trusted vendor and not have any part with handling money or work with the manufacturer.
Take a look at my prototype. With the way of making wire edm to get this logo, the price for TOP plate is extremely expensive and if there are only 5 boards, my sponsor has no way for me to do that. Because I promise there will be at least 10 boards when I open gb.
Of course it is, obviously being sponsored by a vendor is terrific. But who? Who wants to do with someone who is in position like me?
To my understanding you're looking to sell 22 boards, correct?
I /know/ they don't cost $550 USD but the entirety of the cost comes out to $12,100 USD + whatever shipping costs
22 spots, lets presume 50-70 USD in shipping -- maybe more.
The shipping can be done after we have products in hand.
If you can get me in touch with the manufacture and there's a way for you to legally involve me in both cost and contract, I will provide the entirety of the cost of the manufacturing process up front directly to the manufacture. Not to you. To the manufacture. If the money can be moved through a 3rd party, such a novelkey, prime, TX, whatever, the better. You said you cannot get any vendors to work with you, then work with me and let me ask around. I don't have any reputation here but if the manufacture can accept debit card (VISA), I can pay it all without an issue and I'm certain a vendor won't mind hosting it if we're reasonable with negotiations.
You can collect funds from people after the product has arrived and passed a quality check. If you can contact Novelkeyz, explain to them the situation, and have them offer to sell it on their website after I've paid the GB in its entirety and it goes up for sale to the public. There's probably a work around here.
Like I said, I can pay it. All of it. Up front.
We can discuss the rest in private.
Edit: To be clear, you can forward me not only my portion of the money once the GB concludes and everyone is equally protected by their PayPal rights because they can pay when the board is ready to be shipped but as well an agreeable % for me covering cost.
If you keep your group-buys small and honest, such as this one, I will gladly fund them until the community has confidence in your person.
If this makes the community feel more at ease, then I am willing to contribute.
In gist:
Give me design files + protos + manu contact. I want to see what I'm working with.
I will pay up front.
I find a 3rd party vendor to work with.
I'll pay someone experienced in the community and reputable with GB's to help with QC before taking money from people.
that's 550 usd after production which is probably like 350-400usd
get proper numbers first don't just throw money at the problem
also if you're gonna front a board front a good one
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAkH_B3AcbE/You did not respond to what I said, could you work with a trusted vendor and not have any part with handling money or work with the manufacturer.
Take a look at my prototype. With the way of making wire edm to get this logo, the price for TOP plate is extremely expensive and if there are only 5 boards, my sponsor has no way for me to do that. Because I promise there will be at least 10 boards when I open gb.
Of course it is, obviously being sponsored by a vendor is terrific. But who? Who wants to do with someone who is in position like me?
To my understanding you're looking to sell 22 boards, correct?
I /know/ they don't cost $550 USD but the entirety of the cost comes out to $12,100 USD + whatever shipping costs
22 spots, lets presume 50-70 USD in shipping -- maybe more.
The shipping can be done after we have products in hand.
If you can get me in touch with the manufacture and there's a way for you to legally involve me in both cost and contract, I will provide the entirety of the cost of the manufacturing process up front directly to the manufacture. Not to you. To the manufacture. If the money can be moved through a 3rd party, such a novelkey, prime, TX, whatever, the better. You said you cannot get any vendors to work with you, then work with me and let me ask around. I don't have any reputation here but if the manufacture can accept debit card (VISA), I can pay it all without an issue and I'm certain a vendor won't mind hosting it if we're reasonable with negotiations.
You can collect funds from people after the product has arrived and passed a quality check. If you can contact Novelkeyz, explain to them the situation, and have them offer to sell it on their website after I've paid the GB in its entirety and it goes up for sale to the public. There's probably a work around here.
Like I said, I can pay it. All of it. Up front.
We can discuss the rest in private.
Edit: To be clear, you can forward me not only my portion of the money once the GB concludes and everyone is equally protected by their PayPal rights because they can pay when the board is ready to be shipped but as well an agreeable % for me covering cost.
If you keep your group-buys small and honest, such as this one, I will gladly fund them until the community has confidence in your person.
If this makes the community feel more at ease, then I am willing to contribute.
In gist:
Give me design files + protos + manu contact. I want to see what I'm working with.
I will pay up front.
I find a 3rd party vendor to work with.
I'll pay someone experienced in the community and reputable with GB's to help with QC before taking money from people.
that's 550 usd after production which is probably like 350-400usd
get proper numbers first don't just throw money at the problem
also if you're gonna front a board front a good one
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAkH_B3AcbE/You did not respond to what I said, could you work with a trusted vendor and not have any part with handling money or work with the manufacturer.
Take a look at my prototype. With the way of making wire edm to get this logo, the price for TOP plate is extremely expensive and if there are only 5 boards, my sponsor has no way for me to do that. Because I promise there will be at least 10 boards when I open gb.
Of course it is, obviously being sponsored by a vendor is terrific. But who? Who wants to do with someone who is in position like me?
.
https://imgur.com/a/CglZEvf
I feel like this image encompasses the fact that we can trust you about as much as the GB runner. No evidence at all of being a long standing member, no evidence of running a GB before. Really makes me think.
Absolutely correct!
1 ) I am not asking you a cent before the final product arrives
2 ) Only valuable source of info and credibility I have is a long standing reddit account with 17+ trades (some over 1.5k-2k) in mechmarket
3 ) I am not associating with shady people.
https://www.reddit.com/user/outterspacetits
You can maybe risk going with his gb or help guide me to an experienced vendor and GB runner, I FRONT the cost of production, and you guys pay when final product is in.
One of those has less risk than the other.
Anything else?
That hurt ,really
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAkH_B3AcbE/You did not respond to what I said, could you work with a trusted vendor and not have any part with handling money or work with the manufacturer.
Take a look at my prototype. With the way of making wire edm to get this logo, the price for TOP plate is extremely expensive and if there are only 5 boards, my sponsor has no way for me to do that. Because I promise there will be at least 10 boards when I open gb.
Of course it is, obviously being sponsored by a vendor is terrific. But who? Who wants to do with someone who is in position like me?
.
https://imgur.com/a/CglZEvf
I feel like this image encompasses the fact that we can trust you about as much as the GB runner. No evidence at all of being a long standing member, no evidence of running a GB before. Really makes me think.
Absolutely correct!
1 ) I am not asking you a cent before the final product arrives
2 ) Only valuable source of info and credibility I have is a long standing reddit account with 17+ trades (some over 1.5k-2k) in mechmarket
3 ) I am not associating with shady people.
https://www.reddit.com/user/outterspacetits
You can maybe risk going with his gb or help guide me to an experienced vendor and GB runner, I FRONT the cost of production, and you guys pay when final product is in.
One of those has less risk than the other.
Anything else?
Talk is cheap. Get a vendor on board first and then, just maybe, your offer might be taken into consideration. I have a hard time believing any of the vendors would entertain your offer especially with how outlandish your claim of fronting the cost is but feel free to prove me wrong.
Also, what's in it for you? What would make one want to take a 12k usd loss if things go wrong? Unless this is secretly a wsb thread it seems too good to be true and comes off as a scam, not to say that this whole gb doesn't have the chance of not being one.
That hurt ,really
It's art, not everyone is going to appreciate it :thumb:
Talk is cheap. Get a vendor on board first and then, just maybe, your offer might be taken into consideration. I have a hard time believing any of the vendors would entertain your offer especially with how outlandish your claim of fronting the cost is but feel free to prove me wrong.
Also, what's in it for you? What would make one want to take a 12k usd loss if things go wrong? Unless this is secretly a wsb thread it seems too good to be true and comes off as a scam, not to say that this whole gb doesn't have the chance of not being one.
Talk is cheap. Get a vendor on board first and then, just maybe, your offer might be taken into consideration. I have a hard time believing any of the vendors would entertain your offer especially with how outlandish your claim of fronting the cost is but feel free to prove me wrong.
Also, what's in it for you? What would make one want to take a 12k usd loss if things go wrong? Unless this is secretly a wsb thread it seems too good to be true and comes off as a scam, not to say that this whole gb doesn't have the chance of not being one.
Why are the responses to this offer so standoffish? If I were a vendor, I'd jump at someone offering to take all financial risk off my shoulders. Is it a crazy thing for someone to offer to do? Absolutely. But if he flakes and nothing comes of it, then what was lost aside from some time emailing back and forth? Don't get me wrong, I could see some vendors keeping their distance because it seems a bit odd, but that's no reason to fire back at the guy with such an intimidating tone.
Seriously, can we stop now please?I agree. I feel like everyone made their points 100 posts ago.
There have been enough posts ****ting on this designer. Those who want to participate in the groupbuy are plenty informed of the history and concerns. I'd like to see this thread change into a constructive one from here on in.
Thanks.
Talk is cheap. Get a vendor on board first and then, just maybe, your offer might be taken into consideration. I have a hard time believing any of the vendors would entertain your offer especially with how outlandish your claim of fronting the cost is but feel free to prove me wrong.
Also, what's in it for you? What would make one want to take a 12k usd loss if things go wrong? Unless this is secretly a wsb thread it seems too good to be true and comes off as a scam, not to say that this whole gb doesn't have the chance of not being one.
Why are the responses to this offer so standoffish? If I were a vendor, I'd jump at someone offering to take all financial risk off my shoulders. Is it a crazy thing for someone to offer to do? Absolutely. But if he flakes and nothing comes of it, then what was lost aside from some time emailing back and forth? Don't get me wrong, I could see some vendors keeping their distance because it seems a bit odd, but that's no reason to fire back at the guy with such an intimidating tone.
Hi there.
i Have been searching the internet for a custom TKL with out the super annoying Windows key.
i stumbled across this site and seen this thread. and this board looks like so good.
are these awesome looking keyboards Still available?
if so how do i go about getting one?
are they a complete kit? or do i have to get key caps and keys separately?
look forward to your reply.
Much love from Australia
Rossco
I think it would look a lot better if the circle of the logo was centered, not the bird.
So everything is almost done, I'm sorting and waiting for the PCB to finish QC. Hope next weekend everyone can get their hands on my product.
I only took a few photos because the arrangements were made, so I was very lazy to take pictures again because I was afraid of the mistakeShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/eRMuBCH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4kYJML7.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0ByDJAS.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rTdJJA2.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bXrcIry.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ulAvqLY.jpg)
Thanks
Note, this guy is a known scammer. He ran the Makeaboard which never shipped.
Proof:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/714651885512163398/unknown.png?width=398&height=403
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/714651909927075910/97438271_4045062282178147_6177431442994233344_n.png?width=305&height=303