The thread from yesterday got nuked in the rollback.
The thread from yesterday got nuked in the rollback.
LOL yeah I was thinking the same, now I have to write my comment again. :P
Though I am also curious as to how we can acquire it, typically whatever edition Topre only sells within that specific country.
I wonder if we can get massdrop to talk to them.
EDIT: I've made a poll on massdrop see if they can get it later. https://www.massdrop.com/vote/Ducky-Topre-Realforce-Taiwan-Edition
Hmm a debadged RealForce?
Let's people get creative with the case.
Hmm a debadged RealForce?
Let's people get creative with the case.
Didn't realize this at first but I guess this will make it a 100% purchase for me. As much as I love my other RF, that logo can get annoying at times.
maybe there's a big Ducky logo on the top right side :))
maybe there's a big Ducky logo on the top right side :))
Please don't.Show Image(http://www.cclonline.com/images/articles/1460_Ducky%20Logo_Product%20Image.png)
No.
You sure you don't want some nice dye sub PBT ducky win keys :p
You sure you don't want some nice dye sub PBT ducky win keys :pShow Image(http://i.giphy.com/KJ2jDqNON6mZ2.gif)
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/topre-realforce-104ub?mode=guest_openI didn't know this existed. I missed it.
Pretty sure it's just like this except all white keycaps.
This is the previous Ducky special edition, which is 45g uniform (non-silent).
The thread from yesterday got nuked in the rollback.
LOL yeah I was thinking the same, now I have to write my comment again. :P
Though I am also curious as to how we can acquire it, typically whatever edition Topre only sells within that specific country.
I wonder if we can get massdrop to talk to them.
EDIT: I've made a poll on massdrop see if they can get it later. https://www.massdrop.com/vote/Ducky-Topre-Realforce-Taiwan-Edition
rip muh thread
massdrop might run it, but they also might bundle it with fountain pens or something again
Aww no 55g? :(45g ftw :p
Ooh, looks nice.
I might be missing something, but where does Ducky come into this? It seems like every component is a Realforce part, except maybe the caps, but BoW doesn't scream "Ducky" to me. :P
Ooh, looks nice.
I might be missing something, but where does Ducky come into this? It seems like every component is a Realforce part, except maybe the caps, but BoW doesn't scream "Ducky" to me. :P
I think Ducky was acting as a distributor and they must have thought that the product needed the Ducky name to perform in the Taiwanese market
Ooh, looks nice.
I might be missing something, but where does Ducky come into this? It seems like every component is a Realforce part, except maybe the caps, but BoW doesn't scream "Ducky" to me. :P
I think Ducky was acting as a distributor and they must have thought that the product needed the Ducky name to perform in the Taiwanese market
Or maybe Ducky is lending their manufacturing plant to Topre?
Up for preorder at mechanicalkeyboards.com, not a terrible price point either.
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1508 (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1508)
So are these silenced or not? The mk.com listing doesn't mention silencing and neither does this (http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?act=view&no=14837).
So are these silenced or not? The mk.com listing doesn't mention silencing and neither does this (http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?act=view&no=14837).
So are these silenced or not? The mk.com listing doesn't mention silencing and neither does this (http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?act=view&no=14837).
Realforce 104UB-DK45S
It's the silent model. "靜音" means "quiet/silent".
So are these silenced or not? The mk.com listing doesn't mention silencing and neither does this (http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?act=view&no=14837).
Realforce 104UB-DK45S
It's the silent model. "靜音" means "quiet/silent".
@Zeal did you see anything like these on your trip a while back??
I see it now thank you :)So are these silenced or not? The mk.com listing doesn't mention silencing and neither does this (http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?act=view&no=14837).
Realforce 104UB-DK45S
It's the silent model. "靜音" means "quiet/silent".
So are these silenced or not? The mk.com listing doesn't mention silencing and neither does this (http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?act=view&no=14837).
Realforce 104UB-DK45S
It's the silent model. "靜音" means "quiet/silent".
@Zeal did you see anything like these on your trip a while back??
Well, I mentioned it in my interview with Topre. They told me they were going to release a "stormtrooper" version (and vice versa), distributed by Ducky. I guess this is it (and a future White case+black keycaps?)
Edit:
"Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)"
Where's the Ducky rep at to answer our questions? :(I love that video, he's just randomly typing nonsense while staring at the geekhack homepage.
They featured us on the video where they showed the making of the Tuhaojin keyboard, but we haven't seen any official reps from Ducky on here.
What's with Ducky and just offering full size boards?I know right?
Give up on the Ducky Mini and bring back the Shine in TKL already
*stares at the product link of the 30G on MK*
*thinks*
*wishes for TKL*
*stares*
*sighs*
*hovers cursor over add to cart button*
I really don't have any keyboard budget left, but I could definitely use this at work. :| This isn't something that's only available for a limited time, is it?Ducky said on their facebook(according to google translate at least) that it was a limited edition, so limited stock, not sure if they will sell out super quick or not.
I really don't have any keyboard budget left, but I could definitely use this at work. :| This isn't something that's only available for a limited time, is it?Ducky said on their facebook(according to google translate at least) that it was a limited edition, so limited stock, not sure if they will sell out super quick or not.
I really don't have any keyboard budget left, but I could definitely use this at work. :| This isn't something that's only available for a limited time, is it?Ducky said on their facebook(according to google translate at least) that it was a limited edition, so limited stock, not sure if they will sell out super quick or not.
Thanks. Bummed that I likely won't have the funds for it at this point. :| I wonder if it will be "limited" like the 10AEs are. :))
A nice coup for MK to get the Ducky RF Taiwan Edition. However, for me, the white/black contrast is too stark, and I wouldn't want to go back to a full-size board. The price is also rather high. However, one advantage to this board is built-in silencing (if indeed this is what the "S" in the model number indicates). Ever since I installed my silencing rings in a Topre board, I now feel the need to do this for all of them.
Yes, I've installed silencing rings in a RF87UB55. This board doesn't need silencing nearly as much as a Novatouch, but it is improved by the treatment. It's the sound that improves; the feel remains the same as far as I can tell.A nice coup for MK to get the Ducky RF Taiwan Edition. However, for me, the white/black contrast is too stark, and I wouldn't want to go back to a full-size board. The price is also rather high. However, one advantage to this board is built-in silencing (if indeed this is what the "S" in the model number indicates). Ever since I installed my silencing rings in a Topre board, I now feel the need to do this for all of them.
Have you done this to a realforce 55g? If so, do you think the sound and feel improved from silencing it?
If these came in TKL I would have already placed a order for both a 30g and a 45g. Love the weighting, love the silencing, love the stormtrooper colors, I just can't justify that kind of money on a fullsize board. Also nice to see a Realforce board without those stupid "bubble" winkeys.
If these came in TKL I would have already placed a order for both a 30g and a 45g. Love the weighting, love the silencing, love the stormtrooper colors, I just can't justify that kind of money on a fullsize board. Also nice to see a Realforce board without those stupid "bubble" winkeys.
If these came in TKL and 55g ...
If these came in TKL I would have already placed a order for both a 30g and a 45g. Love the weighting, love the silencing, love the stormtrooper colors, I just can't justify that kind of money on a fullsize board. Also nice to see a Realforce board without those stupid "bubble" winkeys.
If these came in TKL and 55g ...
Maybe ducky will consider TKL version too later
since all of their lineup now are Fullsize
and in 2016 they will released another Ducky TKL :cool:
If these came in TKL I would have already placed a order for both a 30g and a 45g. Love the weighting, love the silencing, love the stormtrooper colors, I just can't justify that kind of money on a fullsize board. Also nice to see a Realforce board without those stupid "bubble" winkeys.
If these came in TKL and 55g ...
Maybe ducky will consider TKL version too later
since all of their lineup now are Fullsize
and in 2016 they will released another Ducky TKL :cool:
Still waiting for a 55g Novatouch.
If these came in TKL I would have already placed a order for both a 30g and a 45g. Love the weighting, love the silencing, love the stormtrooper colors, I just can't justify that kind of money on a fullsize board. Also nice to see a Realforce board without those stupid "bubble" winkeys.
If these came in TKL and 55g ...
Maybe ducky will consider TKL version too later
since all of their lineup now are Fullsize
and in 2016 they will released another Ducky TKL :cool:
Still waiting for a 55g Novatouch.
I'd be more interested to see an aftermarket case like the digilog for the HHKB
If these came in TKL I would have already placed a order for both a 30g and a 45g. Love the weighting, love the silencing, love the stormtrooper colors, I just can't justify that kind of money on a fullsize board. Also nice to see a Realforce board without those stupid "bubble" winkeys.
If these came in TKL and 55g ...
Maybe ducky will consider TKL version too later
since all of their lineup now are Fullsize
and in 2016 they will released another Ducky TKL :cool:
Still waiting for a 55g Novatouch.
I'd be more interested to see an aftermarket case like the digilog for the HHKB
FTFY
tbh I'm kinda interested in the 30g one. Silenced buttery smoothness???
tbh I'm kinda interested in the 30g one. Silenced buttery smoothness???
I heard that 30g is very light and comfortable for long period typing.
However, It doesn't have good CLACK feeling. If you have Realforce ergonomically distributed weighting version, then you simply can feel what the 30g is.
Realforce 87U's qaz keys are 30g.
The good thing of 30g is comfortable, but it is not *fun* as realforce 45g or happy hacking.
I don't get it. Why would you need a Topre that was also a Ducky? Why not just get a Topre? I'm missing something.
I don't get it. Why would you need a Topre that was also a Ducky? Why not just get a Topre? I'm missing something.
"Limited Edition"
Hmm.. just occurred to me - would these be using Realforce PBT keycaps, or Ducky?I imagine Realforce as (someone correct me if I'm wrong) but Topre keycaps would mean new molds for Ducky that I doubt they'd want to spend the money on.
I don't get it. Why would you need a Topre that was also a Ducky? Why not just get a Topre? I'm missing something.
I don't get it. Why would you need a Topre that was also a Ducky? Why not just get a Topre? I'm missing something.
Maybe it's cheaper.
Is it cheaper than a RealForce?
I don't get it. Why would you need a Topre that was also a Ducky? Why not just get a Topre? I'm missing something.
Maybe it's cheaper.
Is it cheaper than a RealForce?
Looks like my order shipped.. Should be getting the board this Wed.Did you get the 30g version? I was hoping for a mini review
Looks like my order shipped.. Should be getting the board this Wed.Did you get the 30g version? I was hoping for a mini review
Using this board at work right now. It's nice a change from my 55g 87U... the silent switches really make the thock more satisfying! Switches are purple. Haven't compared it directly to my Leopold Dye-sub, but from I recall, the switch weights feel the same (I've heard that the Leopold Dye-sub is supposed to feel slightly heavier than usual 45g Topre).Any pics of the purple stems?
Aww no 55g? :(45g ftw :p
Using this board at work right now. It's nice a change from my 55g 87U... the silent switches really make the thock more satisfying! Switches are purple. Haven't compared it directly to my Leopold Dye-sub, but from I recall, the switch weights feel the same (I've heard that the Leopold Dye-sub is supposed to feel slightly heavier than usual 45g Topre).Any pics of the purple stems?
Do these sound or feel better than other silenced switches?
I should get the 30g version.
Using this board at work right now. It's nice a change from my 55g 87U... the silent switches really make the thock more satisfying! Switches are purple. Haven't compared it directly to my Leopold Dye-sub, but from I recall, the switch weights feel the same (I've heard that the Leopold Dye-sub is supposed to feel slightly heavier than usual 45g Topre).Any pics of the purple stems?
Do these sound or feel better than other silenced switches?
I should get the 30g version.
Haven't taken photos of the stems, but they look pretty much identical to the silent switches I've seen online:
http://i.imgur.com/TL271SB.jpg
This is my first experience with silent Topre, so I can't really comment on how it feels compared to other silent versions.
One interesting thing is that color of the case isn't as black as my 87U. This one is more of a deep gray, so transferring keys from a black Topre board may result in a bit of a color mismatch.
So, is the way these stems are silenced versus purple stems different?Using this board at work right now. It's nice a change from my 55g 87U... the silent switches really make the thock more satisfying! Switches are purple. Haven't compared it directly to my Leopold Dye-sub, but from I recall, the switch weights feel the same (I've heard that the Leopold Dye-sub is supposed to feel slightly heavier than usual 45g Topre).Any pics of the purple stems?
Do these sound or feel better than other silenced switches?
I should get the 30g version.
Haven't taken photos of the stems, but they look pretty much identical to the silent switches I've seen online:
http://i.imgur.com/TL271SB.jpg
This is my first experience with silent Topre, so I can't really comment on how it feels compared to other silent versions.
One interesting thing is that color of the case isn't as black as my 87U. This one is more of a deep gray, so transferring keys from a black Topre board may result in a bit of a color mismatch.
I have one on the way too and can confirm, but afaik they are indeed the same as other silent stems.
So, is the way these stems are silenced versus purple stems different?Using this board at work right now. It's nice a change from my 55g 87U... the silent switches really make the thock more satisfying! Switches are purple. Haven't compared it directly to my Leopold Dye-sub, but from I recall, the switch weights feel the same (I've heard that the Leopold Dye-sub is supposed to feel slightly heavier than usual 45g Topre).Any pics of the purple stems?
Do these sound or feel better than other silenced switches?
I should get the 30g version.
Haven't taken photos of the stems, but they look pretty much identical to the silent switches I've seen online:
http://i.imgur.com/TL271SB.jpg
This is my first experience with silent Topre, so I can't really comment on how it feels compared to other silent versions.
One interesting thing is that color of the case isn't as black as my 87U. This one is more of a deep gray, so transferring keys from a black Topre board may result in a bit of a color mismatch.
I have one on the way too and can confirm, but afaik they are indeed the same as other silent stems.
"Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)"
So, is the way these stems are silenced versus purple stems different?Using this board at work right now. It's nice a change from my 55g 87U... the silent switches really make the thock more satisfying! Switches are purple. Haven't compared it directly to my Leopold Dye-sub, but from I recall, the switch weights feel the same (I've heard that the Leopold Dye-sub is supposed to feel slightly heavier than usual 45g Topre).Any pics of the purple stems?
Do these sound or feel better than other silenced switches?
I should get the 30g version.
Haven't taken photos of the stems, but they look pretty much identical to the silent switches I've seen online:
http://i.imgur.com/TL271SB.jpg
This is my first experience with silent Topre, so I can't really comment on how it feels compared to other silent versions.
One interesting thing is that color of the case isn't as black as my 87U. This one is more of a deep gray, so transferring keys from a black Topre board may result in a bit of a color mismatch.
I have one on the way too and can confirm, but afaik they are indeed the same as other silent stems.
not that i am aware of, ill take it apart to confirm they are the same as :thumb:
I wonder if that's what's listed on mechanicalkeyboards.com incoming stock. They've got 5+ in stock of the black with white keycaps 30g ones in stock currently, so when I saw they had more coming I was curious why but that would make sense."Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)"
Crap. God DAMNIT. Now I gotta go find **** to sell.
I really want to buy one to try 30g.I wonder if that's what's listed on mechanicalkeyboards.com incoming stock. They've got 5+ in stock of the black with white keycaps 30g ones in stock currently, so when I saw they had more coming I was curious why but that would make sense."Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)"
Crap. God DAMNIT. Now I gotta go find **** to sell.
I'm going to get a 45g one to try topre and silenced at that, I feel like it's going to be too light though based off my 55g topre keychain but keychains and switch testers aren't the most accurate things to judge off of.I really want to buy one to try 30g.I wonder if that's what's listed on mechanicalkeyboards.com incoming stock. They've got 5+ in stock of the black with white keycaps 30g ones in stock currently, so when I saw they had more coming I was curious why but that would make sense."Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)"
Crap. God DAMNIT. Now I gotta go find **** to sell.
I am afraid that 30g might feel like regular rubber dome.I'm going to get a 45g one to try topre and silenced at that, I feel like it's going to be too light though based off my 55g topre keychain but keychains and switch testers aren't the most accurate things to judge off of.I really want to buy one to try 30g.I wonder if that's what's listed on mechanicalkeyboards.com incoming stock. They've got 5+ in stock of the black with white keycaps 30g ones in stock currently, so when I saw they had more coming I was curious why but that would make sense."Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)"
Crap. God DAMNIT. Now I gotta go find **** to sell.
I am afraid that 30g might feel like regular rubber dome.I'm going to get a 45g one to try topre and silenced at that, I feel like it's going to be too light though based off my 55g topre keychain but keychains and switch testers aren't the most accurate things to judge off of.I really want to buy one to try 30g.I wonder if that's what's listed on mechanicalkeyboards.com incoming stock. They've got 5+ in stock of the black with white keycaps 30g ones in stock currently, so when I saw they had more coming I was curious why but that would make sense."Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)"
Crap. God DAMNIT. Now I gotta go find **** to sell.
Someone said it actually still didn't feel anywhere near rubber dome.
I am afraid that 30g might feel like regular rubber dome.I'm going to get a 45g one to try topre and silenced at that, I feel like it's going to be too light though based off my 55g topre keychain but keychains and switch testers aren't the most accurate things to judge off of.I really want to buy one to try 30g.I wonder if that's what's listed on mechanicalkeyboards.com incoming stock. They've got 5+ in stock of the black with white keycaps 30g ones in stock currently, so when I saw they had more coming I was curious why but that would make sense."Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)"
Crap. God DAMNIT. Now I gotta go find **** to sell.
Someone said it actually still didn't feel anywhere near rubber dome.
I had a variable Topre and the 30g domes didn't have tactility on them at all, they were pretty close to linear. And to me the bottom out felt kind of like rubber dome.
BUT it's only a few keys so I could be wrong.
Though it did bug me enough to mod my keyboard to 45g uniform. :P
Been a few weeks and still really enjoying this board!
I am fairly sure it is coming in uniform 30g and 45g, both silenced. :)
Been a few weeks and still really enjoying this board!
30g or 45g?
Been a few weeks and still really enjoying this board!
Hmm, he seems to have two links up. The one he sent to me through our communications that I ordered from is different.
Same item though as far as I can tell. Reason why I mention it is there is technically a English/Korean legend version too.
http://stores.ebay.com/widebasket/?_dmd=2&_nkw=topre+45
Yeah, I had communicated with him a few days back and he said he could get some in if there was interest. He'll probably keep them stocked if they are selling well.
Perhaps someone can weigh in, but as far as I can tell this is just the Leopold counterpart to the Ducky's that this thread is about, at least where 45G is concerned. I suspect there is no limited aspect about this, it's just using the old AE colourset due to it's popularity.
I decided to grab this because all costs considered, I'm not paying much more than the Ducky since I'm in Canada. Standard shipping is included with these Leopolds, but I'd have to pay shipping and likely tax for the Ducky... and I greatly prefer the blue/grey to all white caps.
I have no idea when it will actually come in, but if there aren't photos already on GH I'll put some up in the Topre thread. There's at least one other member on GH that already owns this from alternate means since he posted a quick photo. :)
More Topre is always good, but this will definitely be my only fullsize :))
I would be all over this if it came in tkl
I would be all over this if it came in tkl
... and 55g ;)
Link me?I would be all over this if it came in tkl
... and 55g ;)
Save your money and buy a set of white keycaps from EK. Same thing!
No link possible because such a thing does not exist.Link me?I would be all over this if it came in tkl
... and 55g ;)
Save your money and buy a set of white keycaps from EK. Same thing!
That was my point haha.No link possible because such a thing does not exist.Link me?I would be all over this if it came in tkl
... and 55g ;)
Save your money and buy a set of white keycaps from EK. Same thing!
That was my point haha.No link possible because such a thing does not exist.Link me?I would be all over this if it came in tkl
... and 55g ;)
Save your money and buy a set of white keycaps from EK. Same thing!
My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.
Ok ill put it into my notebook. Is there anything else you would like to add?My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.
Also note that the keycaps that come with this board are a PURE white... it's a pretty stark difference compared to the off-white caps that come with standard Realforce's/HHKB's. It initially looked a little "bright" at first, but now it has really grown on me :)
Ok ill put it into my notebook. Is there anything else you would like to add?My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.
Also note that the keycaps that come with this board are a PURE white... it's a pretty stark difference compared to the off-white caps that come with standard Realforce's/HHKB's. It initially looked a little "bright" at first, but now it has really grown on me :)
NahOk ill put it into my notebook. Is there anything else you would like to add?My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.
Also note that the keycaps that come with this board are a PURE white... it's a pretty stark difference compared to the off-white caps that come with standard Realforce's/HHKB's. It initially looked a little "bright" at first, but now it has really grown on me :)
I'll let you know. But more importantly, I'll do my research before I post something.
NahOk ill put it into my notebook. Is there anything else you would like to add?My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.
Also note that the keycaps that come with this board are a PURE white... it's a pretty stark difference compared to the off-white caps that come with standard Realforce's/HHKB's. It initially looked a little "bright" at first, but now it has really grown on me :)
I'll let you know. But more importantly, I'll do my research before I post something.
Mate get over yourself. I can't believe this is still going. Go comment on another topre threadNahOk ill put it into my notebook. Is there anything else you would like to add?My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.
Also note that the keycaps that come with this board are a PURE white... it's a pretty stark difference compared to the off-white caps that come with standard Realforce's/HHKB's. It initially looked a little "bright" at first, but now it has really grown on me :)
I'll let you know. But more importantly, I'll do my research before I post something.
Again, providing ZERO value to this thread and I'm sure countless others on here. Move along...
Mate get over yourself. I can't believe this is still going. Go comment on another topre threadNahOk ill put it into my notebook. Is there anything else you would like to add?My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.
Also note that the keycaps that come with this board are a PURE white... it's a pretty stark difference compared to the off-white caps that come with standard Realforce's/HHKB's. It initially looked a little "bright" at first, but now it has really grown on me :)
I'll let you know. But more importantly, I'll do my research before I post something.
Again, providing ZERO value to this thread and I'm sure countless others on here. Move along...
KMate get over yourself. I can't believe this is still going. Go comment on another topre threadNahOk ill put it into my notebook. Is there anything else you would like to add?My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.
Also note that the keycaps that come with this board are a PURE white... it's a pretty stark difference compared to the off-white caps that come with standard Realforce's/HHKB's. It initially looked a little "bright" at first, but now it has really grown on me :)
I'll let you know. But more importantly, I'll do my research before I post something.
Again, providing ZERO value to this thread and I'm sure countless others on here. Move along...
(looks for another Topre thread)
Nah.
Hey look, all I ask is that a little due diligence be done instead of spewing out misinformed posts like "just go buy this instead!" when such a thing DOES NOT EXIST. It just causes confusion and degrades an otherwise pleasant forum. Good on you for owning up to it, though. OK... shall we get back on topic now? So that Ducky Realforce Taiwan Editiion keyboard is pretty nice, yea?
The only other full-sized 45g Topre I could find was the Type Heaven. I tried it for a few weeks but didn't care for the feel of the keys, and it seemed like the switches were a bit inconsistent with their weighting. The Realforce is in another class altogether, and the silencing on this thing is the icing on the cake.
The only other full-sized 45g Topre I could find was the Type Heaven. I tried it for a few weeks but didn't care for the feel of the keys, and it seemed like the switches were a bit inconsistent with their weighting. The Realforce is in another class altogether, and the silencing on this thing is the icing on the cake....
Silencing is now on my must-have list for all Topre boards along with 45g uniform force.
...
But it is likely all in my head. I keep "stepchild" keyboard around to remind me of all the things I don't like: an unsilenced Type Heaven with variable weight (30g, 45g and 55g) domes. Just kidding, I love all my Topre.
I actually like my Type Heaven quite a bit. Putting Realforce PBT caps on it helped the sound and feel a lot.
Just got this in...Jealous, did you get it from widebasket?
Just got this in...Jealous, did you get it from widebasket?
Just got this in...
Just got this in...
Is that the silenced 45g uniform board? I was ridiculously close to pulling the trigger on that one if so. If I weren't saving my pennies for a turbo upgrade I probably would have picked one up.
Should be getting mine at some point in the week, it's already in Canada. :cool:
Last Thursday I photographed the unboxing of my Ducky Realforce Taiwan.LOVE this keyboard and your photos (http://i.imgur.com/h8ZDR2T.gif) I see a 104UB (30g or 45g) board on mechanicalkeyboards.com - any difference between that and the taiwan version? Either way splendid photos
http://imgur.com/a/8i6os (http://imgur.com/a/8i6os)
The next night I convinced my friend who does product photography to give my keyboard the supermodel treatment. I've got to proof the final shots, but I'm thinking this keyboard is a swimsuit away from Sports Illustrated.Show Image(http://imgur.com/mbxqCMM.jpg)
The ones on mechanicalkeyboards.com are taiwan editions so no nothing different.Last Thursday I photographed the unboxing of my Ducky Realforce Taiwan.LOVE this keyboard and your photos
http://imgur.com/a/8i6os (http://imgur.com/a/8i6os)
The next night I convinced my friend who does product photography to give my keyboard the supermodel treatment. I've got to proof the final shots, but I'm thinking this keyboard is a swimsuit away from Sports Illustrated.Show Image(http://imgur.com/mbxqCMM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/h8ZDR2T.gif)I see a 104UB (30g or 45g) board on mechanicalkeyboards.com - any difference between that and the taiwan version? Either way splendid photos
Perhaps that is the reason the price is similar to the price of a RF with regular RF key caps. Now that you mention it, I can sort of see the font irregularities in some of those photos.
I was under the newbie impression that Ducky used their own legends but after looking at many other RF pictures I see your point. Now I'm thinking there is a price difference because of how easy it is to spot the irregularities on the Taiwan edition. I rarely look at the legends myself but it is a little disheartening :-\Perhaps that is the reason the price is similar to the price of a RF with regular RF key caps. Now that you mention it, I can sort of see the font irregularities in some of those photos.
All my Topre keyboards (white on gray ABS Type Heaven, black on black PBT Realforce 104UB, black on pure white PBT Realforce 104UB-DK45S) exhibit these same font problems. Search google (https://www.google.com/search?q=realforce+keyboard&tbm=isch) and you'll see indentical font problems across all color of Realforce keyboards. Sometimes the Scroll Lock line height is closer to that of Back Space but usually it matches the crazy line height of its neighbors: Print Screen, Page Up, Page Down.
Proper fonts are why I was really excited about Matt3o's custom Topre key set. Unless you go Novatouch sliders to get MX stems you have no native alternate when it comes to great fonts on your Topre (I'm not speaking for HHKB since I do not own one, but I have purchased a few PFU key sets). Us Topre folk sit by and watch drop after drop and group by after group by of beautiful fonts on beautiful colorways across varying MX key cap profiles. We're still at the caveman drawing stage of fonts and colors.
My endgame keyboard would have to include a Gorton font on a PBT key cap in Topre profile. But once I stop staring down at my belly button and start typing I literally cannot distinguish the font in my peripheral vision. I still notice the color of the keys, but visually it stops there... I start listening to the thock, contemplating the dry PBT feel of each key, and smelling the bull**** I type.
I was under the newbie impression that Ducky used their own legends but after looking at many other RF pictures I see your point. Now I'm thinking there is a price difference because of how easy it is to spot the irregularities on the Taiwan edition. I rarely look at the legends myself but it is a little disheartening :-\
I'm not trying to sell you a RF board with Ducky keycaps man. I'm merely commenting on a price that is not scaled to accommodate Ducky's (probably) thicker PBT keycaps. I can't find comparison measurements of Ducky vs RF :'(I was under the newbie impression that Ducky used their own legends but after looking at many other RF pictures I see your point. Now I'm thinking there is a price difference because of how easy it is to spot the irregularities on the Taiwan edition. I rarely look at the legends myself but it is a little disheartening :-\
The Ducky seems priced right in the middle of the field as far as the Realforce 104U family goes. The early 2015 Ducky 104UB-DK went on Massdrop last year between $215 and $230 and it didn't have silencing. So I'm not convinced its being sold at any discount. I honestly would not buy the silenced 104UB for the $255 price of the Ducky (the 104UB silent is currently $275 on EK.com) since I'd have to spend $125 or so on a Type Heaven for its rubber (technically I have another Type Heaven available but if I'm going D.I.Y. then I'm also going to dip into my personal stash of silencing rings).
I'm extremely thankful I found the 104UB-DK45S. I'd been so excited for the silent 104U products announced on Massdrop until I saw they were all variable weight. I had an order in with one retailer for a 104UG HiPro and a 104U white from which I'd planned to cobble a 45g 104UB-DK and add silencers. I considered it an end game. But that purchase stayed back ordered for so long I cancelled it (strong US dollar in CAD not helpful if it never ships).
I honestly never thought I'd get Topre, 45g uniform + silent right out of the box. And I'm super happy about it since this is a great baseline for calculating my satisfaction with other things topre like rubber dome swaps (cannot tell the difference* between 45g Type Heaven rubber and 45g Realforce 104 rubber) and silencing rings (the urethane foam Hypersphere rings are amazing). I'm no longer eyeing greener pastures when it comes to the Topre variables I care about. Just sitting back waiting for that sweet typography. And my Granite Massdrop. Any day now. I'm gonna need a Novatouch...
* Type Heaven rubber is different than Realforce rubber -- TH has far more individual pieces that can be a pain to line up when reassembling the board; RF rubber comes in a contiguous sheet that is very simple to align. Once assembled I perceive no difference (except that maybe the TH has more resistance? j/k I said I can't tell!)
I'm not trying to sell you a RF board with Ducky keycaps man. I'm merely commenting on a price that is not scaled to accommodate Ducky's (probably) thicker PBT keycaps. I can't find comparison measurements of Ducky vs RF :'(
Measurements! Huh, so.. curious. From the same mold? Thank you for that, the pictures are decent enough to make out the info.I'm not trying to sell you a RF board with Ducky keycaps man. I'm merely commenting on a price that is not scaled to accommodate Ducky's (probably) thicker PBT keycaps. I can't find comparison measurements of Ducky vs RF :'(
Here are the measurements of the keys (http://imgur.com/a/6SRbc) I have in front of me.
Clockwise from the top left in the pic below I've got a Type Heaven ESC (gray), Ducky 104UB-DK45S ESC (pure white), Realforce 104UB ESC (black), Ducky 104UB-DK45S ESC (red), PFU Color Key Top Set blank (cyan), and a Ducky 104UB-DK45S letter D (red) on its side.
It's exactly 1.11mm at the back wall of the RF and the Ducky. I can't say with any authority but it really looks like these keys came from the same molds. I could speculate on the numbers stamped on the inside, but that's treading into tea leaf territory. No one describes Topre as having thick PBT, but it's a high quality key cap nonetheless.
Normal apologies for the quality, I'm approaching the limits of iPhone macro photography.Show Image(http://imgur.com/WNDqNKQ.jpg)Show Image(http://imgur.com/dageYKE.jpg)Show Image(http://imgur.com/qCEX3Jm.jpg)Show Image(http://imgur.com/oyw5ar6.jpg)
Keychatter has a review up of an actual Topre/Realforce brand 45G silenced board with black keycaps and flat winkeys (here (https://www.keychatter.com/2016/01/19/review-realforce-104us-silenced-topre/)), and Massdrop/EK have been selling the new silenced variable editions which are Realforce branded.
The price hike is due to these being "limited edition" models to a degree, but more specifically being factory silenced (purple sliders).
Again, just to reiterate - Ducky/Leopold seem to only be involved in this in terms of branding/distribution. They had no hand in the production of the units or keycaps.
I really want livingspeedbump to confirm that 45g weight from his keychatter review. Massdrop links the review from their variable weight sale page (one is going on now w/PBT spacebars) and in each discussion thread people have to confirm that what is for sale is not 45g, but is variable weight.
So I just got mine in today (I plan to harvest the sliders). I am not normally a fan of 45g Topre but typing on this board is really something...
I was pleasantly surprised by the standard wire keypuller (Topre...plz...) and the left control key!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/q8TNn2t.jpg)
I will probably use it for a few days and write a quick review. I plan on making a lot of comparisons (45 vs 55, Hypersphere vs Topre Silenced vs stock, etc), so feel free to ask questions!
Here's a quick typing sample (https://soundcloud.com/t-jerue/realforce-45g-stock-silenced) I took
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Here's a quick typing sample (https://soundcloud.com/t-jerue/realforce-45g-stock-silenced) I took
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Ohhh I'm very interested in how this compares to Hypersphere's silence ring, since I already have a 45g modded Realforce, I was debating if it's worth it to buy the Ducky one or just mod it with Hypersphere's rings.
I'll be looking forward to your review. :thumb:
Just a question, where do you guys source your domes? I'm currently in the process of modding my 87U to 45g but can't find any domes. Any options other than buying a used novatouch or similar?
Just a question, where do you guys source your domes? I'm currently in the process of modding my 87U to 45g but can't find any domes. Any options other than buying a used novatouch or similar?
Ohhh I'm very interested in how this compares to Hypersphere's silence ring, since I already have a 45g modded Realforce, I was debating if it's worth it to buy the Ducky one or just mod it with Hypersphere's rings.
I'll be looking forward to your review. :thumb:
I was in the same boat as you. I had a 104UB modded to 45g uniform. The Hypersphere rings got my attention since he was very meticulous about getting it right. I pulled the trigger when he put another batch on ebay and was blown away by the way the typing experience improved by eliminating most of the noise.
I wanted a second keyboard for home, but could not do black on black legends given my ambient light but also didn't want a keyboard in a white case. Long story short instead of spending $$$ on a Realforce for home AND STILL having to add my own silencing rings I bought this year's Ducky. It has all the things I want.
Now, if I were you AND I needed a second Realforce I wouldn't hesitate. You get the 45g uniform, the silencing rings with fancy purple sliders all ready to go -- doesn't need hours to tear down and rebuild. But the downside to this, for me anyway, is that once you go silencing ring you won't want to go back. I'd be thinking about buying those Hypersphere rings for my other board all the time -- too curious to resist.
So if I didn't need a second fullsize Realforce I would eBay some Hypersphere silencing rings immediately. The hours of meticulous teardown and rebuild can be very Zen. You get everything cleaned up, rubber lined up, and when it all snaps together and its time to test it out... Mmmmm... silent Topre.
As far as the differences between Hyperphere rings and factory silenced Realforce, well, its subtle. The purple stem is apparently longer than the black stem by the thickness of one silencing ring (0.53mm). I swear that my Hypsphere silenced board does indeed have a barely perceivable shorter throw. I did not detect this the day I installed the rings. Its only after typing all day on one and then transitioning to the other that I noticed a difference.
The Hypersphere silenced board is a delight to type on. It's not stiff (Type Heaven 45g rubber) and the keys don't clack in any way (Hypersphere's urethane foam may well be softer), and I like the slightly shorter key travel. But the Ducky... the Ducky is tight. The pure white PBT caps are bone dry, and the switches bottom out into a controlled stacatto. The travel is not even a millimeter longer, but it lands so tightly at the bottom and returns so silently to the top. The Ducky is a crisp typing experience.
Good luck on your Topre road.
Ahh why no tkl. Full size gives me a soft-on :(
Do these come with the alternate ctrl/caps lock keys?
I asked the same about one being sold in the classifieds, but just want to make sure. :confused:
Getting mine in the mail today! Can't wait to try out the Topre switches for the first time!I was under the impression the ducky white is a bright white and is different from any other Topre set.
Does anyone know if the Light grey (white) PBT Spacebars from the recent GB and MD sales are an exact match to the white keys of the Ducky branded board? Is this the same shade of white as on the normal Topre branded realforce? If I end up keeping this board I'm sure I'll want a PBT spacebar for it.
That's what I was thinking. Hopefully they can include a matching bright white spacebar for the next pbt spacebar GB / MD !!!
Someone makes them somewhere. Ducky could do better and make two-toned sets! Taobao sets are insanely priced atmThat's what I was thinking. Hopefully they can include a matching bright white spacebar for the next pbt spacebar GB / MD !!!
Hopefully Ducky might make some Topre full sets in various colours (that would also be compatible with RealForce and/or HHKB) ...
I've decided to sell my Ducky Topre in favor of my FC900's, which I am going to be modding with Zealios (going to one board with 65G purples and one with 67G purples to test both switches). I like the feeling of the Topre switch, but wasn't a big fan of the board itself. I think if Leopold came out with an FC900 with 55g uniform silent Topre switches I'd give that one a try, but I think that's a long shot. I'm really digging the FC900 board with the Navy front print keycaps. I'm hoping that adding the Zealios will make it my end-game board and then I can get on with life! :p
Someone makes them somewhere. Ducky could do better and make two-toned sets! Taobao sets are insanely priced atmThat's what I was thinking. Hopefully they can include a matching bright white spacebar for the next pbt spacebar GB / MD !!!
Hopefully Ducky might make some Topre full sets in various colours (that would also be compatible with RealForce and/or HHKB) ...
Ducky has all sorts of neat colours - blue/gray, green/cream, yellow/yellow - they'd sell a s***load of sets if they were RealForce compatible and sensibly priced, especially as RealForce sets are no longer available.
My only issue with these less i'm mistaken is it is not offered in a TKL version and FullSize boards aggravate the hell out of my shoulder. Were they do to a TKL version i'd likely eventually bite for a TKL brother for my Realforce 87u 55G.
My only issue with these less i'm mistaken is it is not offered in a TKL version and FullSize boards aggravate the hell out of my shoulder. Were they do to a TKL version i'd likely eventually bite for a TKL brother for my Realforce 87u 55G.
My only issue with these less i'm mistaken is it is not offered in a TKL version and FullSize boards aggravate the hell out of my shoulder. Were they do to a TKL version i'd likely eventually bite for a TKL brother for my Realforce 87u 55G.
Not having a 55g version is another serious omission.
My only issue with these less i'm mistaken is it is not offered in a TKL version and FullSize boards aggravate the hell out of my shoulder. Were they do to a TKL version i'd likely eventually bite for a TKL brother for my Realforce 87u 55G.
Not having a 55g version is another serious omission.
True that is one i had not thought of though one i can live without since i still use the HHKB Pro 2 and switch back and forth to my 55g RF without too much of an issue. However full size boards just irk the hell out of me in common usage it's one of the only reasons iv'e held out so long on a model M since the SSK boards are just so damn expensive.
I was part of the 55g camp, but after switching back from the Ducky Realforce to 55g, I think I prefer the 45g silenced over 55g non-silenced. Just so much more refined in my opinion.
Still very curious about 55g silenced, however.
I was part of the 55g camp, but after switching back from the Ducky Realforce to 55g, I think I prefer the 45g silenced over 55g non-silenced. Just so much more refined in my opinion.
Still very curious about 55g silenced, however.
I also picked up a blue/grey 45g board from widebasket. I didn't know something could ship so fast from S. Korea to California! This guy is legit. I wanted a uniform 45g silenced full size board and the Ducky Taiwan was interesting to me, but I knew I would eventually want to change out those keycaps which would have added $100 or more to the cost of it. I mean those Taiwan edition keycaps are as white as the singer from Winger's teeth... that's how white they are. Blinding.
Wow, when did you pick up that board? I just checked widebasket's eBay page and he didn't have any of those for sale.
I also picked up a blue/grey 45g board from widebasket. I didn't know something could ship so fast from S. Korea to California! This guy is legit. I wanted a uniform 45g silenced full size board and the Ducky Taiwan was interesting to me, but I knew I would eventually want to change out those keycaps which would have added $100 or more to the cost of it. I mean those Taiwan edition keycaps are as white as the singer from Winger's teeth... that's how white they are. Blinding.
I was part of the 55g camp, but after switching back from the Ducky Realforce to 55g, I think I prefer the 45g silenced over 55g non-silenced. Just so much more refined in my opinion.
Still very curious about 55g silenced, however.
I also picked up a blue/grey 45g board from widebasket. I didn't know something could ship so fast from S. Korea to California! This guy is legit. I wanted a uniform 45g silenced full size board and the Ducky Taiwan was interesting to me, but I knew I would eventually want to change out those keycaps which would have added $100 or more to the cost of it. I mean those Taiwan edition keycaps are as white as the singer from Winger's teeth... that's how white they are. Blinding.
Wow, when did you pick up that board? I just checked widebasket's eBay page and he didn't have any of those for sale.
Wow, when did you pick up that board? I just checked widebasket's eBay page and he didn't have any of those for sale.
Last I checked there was only one left so maybe shortround got the last one. He may get more in stock, however.
Yea, I got the same board from him and also live in California. Got here in like 3 days! Will definitely buy from him again.
OK I see that the Ducky RealForce Taiwan Edition has been sold out for awhile, so I thought I'd throw out this question -
Is there only going to be one "run" of these boards?
I have convinced myself that I want a full size RealForce 45g Topre board, preferably a 104 ANSI model, but I don't see any out there for sale, new. I'm tempted to get a Type-S 45g 108 JIS model because that's what I see is available for purchase - and the colored key caps for 108s are way cheaper than the English 104s. I am finding that I can adapt to the slightly different layout of the JIS model, as my main board these days is a HHKB Pro JP.
Would love to see a Type-S 55g RealForce 104 board made available!
OK I see that the Ducky RealForce Taiwan Edition has been sold out for awhile, so I thought I'd throw out this question -
Is there only going to be one "run" of these boards?
I have convinced myself that I want a full size RealForce 45g Topre board, preferably a 104 ANSI model, but I don't see any out there for sale, new. I'm tempted to get a Type-S 45g 108 JIS model because that's what I see is available for purchase - and the colored key caps for 108s are way cheaper than the English 104s. I am finding that I can adapt to the slightly different layout of the JIS model, as my main board these days is a HHKB Pro JP.
Would love to see a Type-S 55g RealForce 104 board made available!
If you absolutely must have a full size silent realforce, widebasket has put more up:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topre-Realforce-104-Keys-Electrostatic-Capacitive-Switch-Keyboard-All-45g-PBT-/272114235799
Yea... I sometimes can't believe I paid that much, but the color scheme is much better than the Ducky version IMO!
I want TKL version of this one !
Realforce should add some more design :thumb:I want TKL version of this one !
That would be pretty sick. Pictures don't do this board justice for just how clean it looks on one's desk. The bright caps are amazing, imo. :) It'd look nice in TKL layout.
I want TKL version of this one !
I want TKL version of this one !
Something like this, perhaps?
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I want TKL version of this one !
Something like this, perhaps?
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Is that yours, Tactile? I'm assuming there was an all white Realforce cap set released at some point, yeah?
I want TKL version of this one !
Something like this, perhaps?
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Is that yours, Tactile? I'm assuming there was an all white Realforce cap set released at some point, yeah?
I want TKL version of this one !
Something like this, perhaps?
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Is that yours, Tactile? I'm assuming there was an all white Realforce cap set released at some point, yeah?
A full-sized Realforce/Ducky Taiwan keyset that Tactile switched to a Realforce tkl? Tricky tricky
I want TKL version of this one !
Something like this, perhaps?
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Is that yours, Tactile? I'm assuming there was an all white Realforce cap set released at some point, yeah?
A full-sized Realforce/Ducky Taiwan keyset that Tactile switched to a Realforce tkl? Tricky tricky
Not exactly. :P Just a keyset that's similar put on a TKL.
What weight do you use, Tactile?
I want TKL version of this one !
Something like this, perhaps?
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Is that yours, Tactile? I'm assuming there was an all white Realforce cap set released at some point, yeah?
A full-sized Realforce/Ducky Taiwan keyset that Tactile switched to a Realforce tkl? Tricky tricky
Not exactly. :P Just a keyset that's similar put on a TKL.
What weight do you use, Tactile?
Oh, the link right. Looks like the same kerning on the Ducky Taiwan keyset. But I guess the indicators are way different. My mistake
It's 55 gram.
I had a friend over a few days ago who is not into keyboards at all. I sat him down & started putting keyboards in front of him - "This one is MX blues" - "This is PCB mounted MX blacks" - you know how it goes...
I set this Realforce in front of him & I just wish I'd been filming or at least had a photo of his face when he pressed a key on this keyboard. His first question was "Why haven't I heard of these Topre switches?". Anyway, I'm pretty happy with it.
Oh, the link right. Looks like the same kerning on the Ducky Taiwan keyset. But I guess the indicators are way different. My mistake
As a newbie to Topre, but a lurker on the subject for a while, I thought the kerning issue was typical for Realforce key cap sets.It's 55 gram.
I had a friend over a few days ago who is not into keyboards at all. I sat him down & started putting keyboards in front of him - "This one is MX blues" - "This is PCB mounted MX blacks" - you know how it goes...
I set this Realforce in front of him & I just wish I'd been filming or at least had a photo of his face when he pressed a key on this keyboard. His first question was "Why haven't I heard of these Topre switches?". Anyway, I'm pretty happy with it.
Nice, very nice. I'm the opposite. With these I want to experience 30g domes. Don't get me wrong, 55g also sounds nice, but I think tactile switches aren't really my thing, from using MX and Alps and 45g (and variable weight) Topre. Alps SKCM Brown and Green are very Topre-like, but even heavier than 55g, so to me, going the other way, with something lighter would be more unique.
Probably just easier to spot on an all white keyset /shrug
This post convinced me to buy one. Good job OP, now i am $250 poorer.
But everytime I am sad, I type and I am ok again.
Surreal board really, the nice blend of build quality, the badass sliders, the keycaps and the typing experience is just brilliant!
This post convinced me to buy one. Good job OP, now i am $250 poorer.
But everytime I am sad, I type and I am ok again.
Surreal board really, the nice blend of build quality, the badass sliders, the keycaps and the typing experience is just brilliant!
Welcome to the club, man! The asian market seems to have a bunch left around. Much harder to find in the states. But yeah, I like the Ducky Realforce a lot!