Will the PCB support ISO?ISO requires the right side to be aligned for the Enter key and the row 2 above it. That doesn't happen on this layout.
Any more chances at the LE/special editions?Any GB runner has to order extra for QC purposes, so there's always a chance for extras. Just a chance, though. No guarantee.
Any GB runner has to order extra for QC purposes, so there's always a chance for extras. Just a chance, though. No guarantee.
Aluminum tops are up on the site.
For those who purchased already, I have a coupon code for you. Please use the contact form on the site, or message me on Discord: jaxxstatic#2116.
Please pay attention to the instructions at the bottom when ordering your aluminum tops.
Contact me for shipping questions.
PCBs will be up as soon as possible.
do the aluminum tops have the same end date as the board?Yes, same end date for the aluminum tops.
Do you think the PCBs will be up before GB ends, just so I can pick the lot up in one go. Cheers.Hopefully they'll be up separately before the GB end, but if not, I'll put something in place so you can either order it separately like normal, or add it to an existing order with no additional shipping charge.
I've seen this new carbon fiber plate design on a few group buys recently, do you know anyone who has gotten to type one of these plates?
What's the purpose of the foam layer? Adding flex? Or sound dampening?
I'm really interested in the full PC, as my Think6.5 is my favorite board at the moment. I would like to try a PC plate design :O.
What layout options does the PCB support? Judging by the plate, stepped and non-stepped Caps Lock, split and regular Backspace, split and regular LSpace, split and regular RShift. Correct?All correct!!
All correct!!
Here's a pic taken from projectkeyboard's discord that helps:
(Attachment Link)
Except it's missing the adjustable caps lock that you mentioned.
will the pcb be white? i really dont like green pcb for polycarbYes, white.
What layout options does the PCB support? Judging by the plate, stepped and non-stepped Caps Lock, split and regular Backspace, split and regular LSpace, split and regular RShift. Correct?
I just placed an order for this with an add on Aluminum top in Champagne. This one was a spicy meatball but I'm hoping it will be my endgame keyboard as well (or close as possible) :thumb:Durock/Everglide seem to be in favour these days. You can always polish the weight. Just need to put more work into it than a prepolished one!
I noticed dampening is not included in the design, is this by choice and can desirable acoustics be achieved without any?
Since the brass weight comes sandblasted this time, is it possible to polish it myself to a shine if that finish is preferred?
I ordered the brass plate and plan to get Gateron Ink Blacks per your suggestion earlier in this thread. Do you have a recommendations on stabs for this combo? Durock?
Is it just me, or is there no way to get an extra PCB anymore?It hasn’t been added to the store yet. Might be added before GB closes but worst case scenario you’ll be able to purchase the PCB separately but have it shipped with your Rukia order.
Quick question as this ends tonight (and sorry if I missed the answer) but can I order the alum top after today, like with the extra PCB whenever that’s available? Or will I need to add it to my order tonight.You have to add it tonight. Alu top ends when GB ends.
Thank you to everyone who joined the group buy!Sweet. Now I just gotta decide on a keycaps set. Since polycarb goes with anything, decisions, decisions......
Round 2 is closed, but PCBs will be up soon.
I'll post here, post on Reddit, and ping in the Discord when they're available.
Just like aluminum tops, if you want it to be included with your Rukia kit, I can give you a coupon so you don't get charged additional shipping.
Kuro shiro it will be for me i think
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Count me in for round 3. Missed this, heads down in work lately. Stoked to see everyone’s build. Huge fanSame here!
Me three. Will wait for R3. ;)Count me in for round 3. Missed this, heads down in work lately. Stoked to see everyone’s build. Huge fanSame here!
R3 when haha?
I also made the PC version "unlimited," so people don't feel like they have to compete to get and keep a slot, possibly putting themselves in a difficult position due to FOMO.Well I guess this round wasn't unlimited? Because it seems I indeed missed it out.
I also kept the cost at the round 1 $390, although manufacturing cost quotes have gone up.
unlimited units not unlimited time big dogI also made the PC version "unlimited," so people don't feel like they have to compete to get and keep a slot, possibly putting themselves in a difficult position due to FOMO.Well I guess this round wasn't unlimited? Because it seems I indeed missed it out.
I also kept the cost at the round 1 $390, although manufacturing cost quotes have gone up.
This certainly makes sense. Dunno why I read "unlimited" as "in stock". My bad.unlimited units not unlimited time big dogI also made the PC version "unlimited," so people don't feel like they have to compete to get and keep a slot, possibly putting themselves in a difficult position due to FOMO.Well I guess this round wasn't unlimited? Because it seems I indeed missed it out.
I also kept the cost at the round 1 $390, although manufacturing cost quotes have gone up.
This certainly makes sense. Dunno why I read "unlimited" as "in stock". My bad.unlimited units not unlimited time big dogI also made the PC version "unlimited," so people don't feel like they have to compete to get and keep a slot, possibly putting themselves in a difficult position due to FOMO.Well I guess this round wasn't unlimited? Because it seems I indeed missed it out.
I also kept the cost at the round 1 $390, although manufacturing cost quotes have gone up.
Is there any possibility there will be Round 3? Missed this one and I'm sad. :(R3 will be UHMWPE instead of PC, R2 should have extras after they ship though.
Hi there, any updates?
Last update on discord was that we’re aiming for before (US) thanksgiving. A couple colours are being reworked along with the steel bottom and polycarbonate green.
Updates are beeing pined to the channelLast update on discord was that we’re aiming for before (US) thanksgiving. A couple colours are being reworked along with the steel bottom and polycarbonate green.
My man, thanks cijanzen! Guess I didn't go far enough back in the Rukia channel when I was looking.
Updates are being pined to the channelLast update on discord was that we’re aiming for before (US) thanksgiving. A couple colours are being reworked along with the steel bottom and polycarbonate green.
My man, thanks cijanzen! Guess I didn't go far enough back in the Rukia channel when I was looking.
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Just checking in on this. Any update on when the r2 Rukias will ship?
This is the most unique extras sale entry I've seen! Kudos.
*Neuromancer, not Necromancer, haha.
Think I'll try out that Gibson quiz. :)
Hey Jaxx, did that email about stick with the PC version or upgrading to the UHMWPE version ever get sent out yet? Just wondering cause I haven't got one, checked my spam too just in case before posting here.Haven’t received anything yet either. So don’t think it’s been send out.
Hey Jaxx, did that email about stick with the PC version or upgrading to the UHMWPE version ever get sent out yet? Just wondering cause I haven't got one, checked my spam too just in case before posting here.Haven’t received anything yet either. So don’t think it’s been send out.
Thanks for the heads up man!
Thanks for the heads up man!
Jaxx posted in his discord that he had some family stuff come up and didn't get a chance to sit down yet. Should be out relatively soon once things are sorted in his personal life.
On another note, what are people considering? Swapping to UHMWPE or staying with PC?
Thanks for the heads up man!
Jaxx posted in his discord that he had some family stuff come up and didn't get a chance to sit down yet. Should be out relatively soon once things are sorted in his personal life.
On another note, what are people considering? Swapping to UHMWPE or staying with PC?
Since the discord server has been locked down for almost a week now and we're coming up on a year from the start of the GB, can we please get some indication (photos preferably) that PC Rukias have been manufactured, are still being made, etc.?
Jaxx said he was going to talk with his legal team about taking photos after someone asked back at the end January (maybe early Feb). I asked about that a few days later and a mod told me that he didn't actually mean he was going to talk to his legal team, so I'm not sure where we're at with that. Boards were sent out to some trusted friends and I was hoping to see something from them like photos or a message or something, but the only thing we heard was that they said it was "better" than R1. On February 25th, we were informed that by the next Sunday about 150 boards would be completed but nothing was shown of them either. February 22nd there were 3 pictures of a rukia shared, but when someone asked if those were in-house manufactured R2, they did not get a reply.
I was hoping I would see an update here regarding why the server was locked as no message or pin was made by Jaxx or the mods that I could see, but it looks like there's only been one update to this post and that was after the board was late in November. Hearing "next month" 4-5 times with nothing else despite also indicating there are finished boards in hand is concerning to me. Please let me know if this request is unreasonable.
Another month, another lack of updates from Jaxx but more from the mods apparently representing him. Now it’s the PCB manufacturer, despite implying PCBs were all set months ago. I am not sure how that’s even possible because dozens of boards were supposedly ready to ship and were being made weekly. It took this long to figure out a PCB issue?
Refunds are no longer possible either, which the mods loved to flex as such a huge and gracious thing that we should be honored to have the option to do. Option gone, server completely locked and channels deleted or hidden.
May 10th is now the projected shipping date. No indication as to why, what the next move is, photos of the finished boards waiting for PCBs, nothing. No photos of the 300 boards that were apparently received. No photos of the aluminum tops that seem to never be mentioned.
This isn’t a “tough wait” either. I don’t need this board right now. It has nothing to do with patience and framing it as such is an attempted redirection of the conversation. I’m not concerned about when these come. I’m concerned about their existence at all, the lack of clarity, honesty etc.
Refunds are no longer possible either, which the mods loved to flex as such a huge and gracious thing that we should be honored to have the option to do. Option gone, server completely locked and channels deleted or hidden.
This isn’t a “tough wait” either. I don’t need this board right now. It has nothing to do with patience and framing it as such is an attempted redirection of the conversation. I’m not concerned about when these come. I’m concerned about their existence at all, the lack of clarity, honesty etc.
I didn't ask for a refund, as i believe in the product, but with this last "update" i am convinced nothing is done and we wont see proper boards for months (or ever). Why lock the discord, if Jaxx isn't even posting updates?
I don't mind the wait, i don't need the board right now, but please how some photos and have Jaxx send some updates. With all these delays, there should be regular updates with photos and specific information as to why we are waiting.
1) If you don't mind the wait why are you on Geekhack stating you are convinced "we wont see proper boards for months (or ever)?
]Just saw the new update from Jaxx. I just wondered if clarification could be provided about the Rukia R2 that I may have missed. All the units from the original manufacturer were lost? damaged? never shipped? If so, all the units will be newly made by Jaxx himself in USA? I have not been following the details.
]Just saw the new update from Jaxx. I just wondered if clarification could be provided about the Rukia R2 that I may have missed. All the units from the original manufacturer were lost? damaged? never shipped? If so, all the units will be newly made by Jaxx himself in USA? I have not been following the details.
Basically the manufacturer shipped by boat when he didn't ask for it. So while it was stuck on boat, he started making the boards in-house and when the boards (that was shipped by boat) arrived, they were damaged but he's checking to see if he can refinish them. I believe all the units will be made by himself.
]Just saw the new update from Jaxx. I just wondered if clarification could be provided about the Rukia R2 that I may have missed. All the units from the original manufacturer were lost? damaged? never shipped? If so, all the units will be newly made by Jaxx himself in USA? I have not been following the details.New update?! Where?
the updates are in the discord.]Just saw the new update from Jaxx. I just wondered if clarification could be provided about the Rukia R2 that I may have missed. All the units from the original manufacturer were lost? damaged? never shipped? If so, all the units will be newly made by Jaxx himself in USA? I have not been following the details.New update?! Where?
Great to hear that the original boards has arrived and that he's been working on the in-house manufacturing - now I don't see any valid excuse not to post some pictures, preferably with timestamps so nothing is left to speculations.
As someone pointed out earlier, the whole playing a victim thing is just noncens. The time money exchanged hands Jaxx became a seller and we customers - hence it turned into business and should be handled accordingly.
I still have hopes this will turn out good, that's why I haven't posted earlier nor asked for a refund. Though failing to hit mileatones, post pictures or even give frequent updates is getting annoying and far below what could be expected.
Locks the Discord - Post updates in the locked server..the updates are in the discord.]Just saw the new update from Jaxx. I just wondered if clarification could be provided about the Rukia R2 that I may have missed. All the units from the original manufacturer were lost? damaged? never shipped? If so, all the units will be newly made by Jaxx himself in USA? I have not been following the details.New update?! Where?
Great to hear that the original boards has arrived and that he's been working on the in-house manufacturing - now I don't see any valid excuse not to post some pictures, preferably with timestamps so nothing is left to speculations.
As someone pointed out earlier, the whole playing a victim thing is just noncens. The time money exchanged hands Jaxx became a seller and we customers - hence it turned into business and should be handled accordingly.
I still have hopes this will turn out good, that's why I haven't posted earlier nor asked for a refund. Though failing to hit mileatones, post pictures or even give frequent updates is getting annoying and far below what could be expected.
How about next time you all understand there's risk involved with all GBs and don't join? By doing chargebacks you're only causing problems for the rest of us who actually believe this will get done.
How about next time you all understand there's risk involved with all GBs and don't join? By doing chargebacks you're only causing problems for the rest of us who actually believe this will get done.
Hello,
I'll try and make this a timeline-type format to make things a little bit clearer.
3/14/20 - announcement in Discord that a Round 2 of Rukia going to happen. I mention setting up my own manufacturing, but it's not ready yet. Rukia will be manufactured overseas for the last time.
3/21/20 - Rukia Group Buy starts with no announcement or advertising due to emerging COVID situation--main concern being that customers' livelihoods and health are unsure.
Polycarbonate (PC) and Special Edition (SE) versions go on sale on the site. SE is stainless steel/carbon fiber version 30 units FCFS.
3/23/20 - A green dyed limited edition (LE) version of Rukia becomes available through a special Discord event involving trivia and scavenger hunt.
5/3/20 - The GB ends (a couple people with extenuating circumstances request to purchase a few days after).
Totals:
SE (30) + LE (10) + PC (310) + ~30% =500
I take one week re-checking individual orders to make sure parts orders number totals are correct.
5/11/20 - Order made to manufacturer. Expected delivery to me is August/September.
5/15/20 - notice about refunds
5/22/20 - notice about possible delays with Gondolindrim's work on PCBs due to COVID situation in Brazil among other issues.
7/7/20 - first SE attempt by manu unsatisfactory
8/5/20 - update on delays and progress - aluminum top anodizing, PC dye for LE, and SE bottom samples asked to be redone
8/16/20 - announcement about moving to completely in-house manufacturing
9/22/20 - Gondo finishes PCB
9/30/20 - announcement about request for batch samples from factory--confirms need for boards to be redone. Shooting for before Christmas.
10/31/20 - announcement about knobs
11/1/20 - update regarding moving into production facility and separate warehouse and inspections
11/13/20 - notice from manu that boards are ready to ship, so I put out an update stating that shipping expected in January, giving me enough time to QC and also do hand finishing on SE
12/5/20 - announcement about dates slipping and shipment being on a boat
12/12/20 - announcement about not being satisfied with waiting on shipment, so doing what I need to do (getting materials) to manufacture in house. hope for february
12/30/20 - first in-house Rukias successfully made. Finish needs to be worked on. This takes a while
1/12/20 - no update kind of update. just waiting and working. This incites a toxic back and forth in the server. I shut it down for a little bit so people can stop insulting each other.
2/16/20 - update consolidated by Rain - still waiting
3/12/20 - announcement about having paid the customs fee and being notified by customs that there was an undisclosed number of boards damaged
4/19/20 - lockdown the server - more toxicity and back and forth
4/23/20 - update confirming that I got a window on may 5th
5/3/20 - pics
This is obviously VERY abbreviated, but I've tried to be communicative and open throughout. I should have done it in a better, more organized, and more regular way, though, and not just in Discord chat.
From the beginning, this round of Rukias was just an aim to continue to establish myself in the community and give people what they wanted in terms of an Alice layout/compatible keyboard.
I quit my job at the hospital in December of 2019 and decided to go forward putting everything into Mint Autumn as a business. My wife and I are still administrators for my mother-in-law's care home for the elderly, but that is not a reliable source of income.
For much of 2020, my wife continued working as a nurse, but every few weeks or more, she would get exposed, and we would have to find a way to self-quarantine her from the kids, her mother, and our patients.
So she quit and decided to help watch the kids while I work.
Rukia round 2 was not priced with enough overhead to even pay myself or fund future projects. It was intended to be a "farewell" project to PC, but also it would make the SE and LE into reality, which were underpriced compared to what they cost to produce.
In-house manufacturing has always been funded by small business loans. Injection molding was always the goal--a more sane pricepoint for consumers with a more efficient production process but using a material that would give a high end feel and sound compared to what is currently available.
I have had issues with manufacturers making mistakes or not fulfilling on product expectations or missing deadlines, and there hasn't been much that I could do before except eat the losses and figure out a workaround that still gets the customers their boards.
But this time around, I got a lawyer involved to try and recoup some of those losses. That has restricted what I can say-especially about the botched boat shipment and it's frustrating.
But that doesn't excuse being silent on delays or issues. I will fix that and give out as much info as I can from now on.
I also took contract work to pay operational costs (not setup costs)-- the bulk of that is equipment leases, building leases, electricity, and material costs.
That has also limited what I can show, since they share space and use the same machines.
Letting overly enthusiastic random support messages be the majority of what filled the main source of information for the group buy made finding actual useful information difficult and almost impossible to find.
I appreciate the support, but conversations would then polarize into those seeming to pander vs those seeming to attack, and it was useless for everyone. I should have killed the "I love Rukia" trend as soon as it started.
More than that, though:
I should have been more organized, more thorough, and more regular with updates.
I am sorry. I will do better.
I should have used all the available methods of reaching out to customers: Geekhack, Discord, Reddit, email,...Keebtalk? with these regular updates.
I really am sorry.
I will do better for you.
I appreciate everyone's patience and trust in me. It's not something I take as a given.
I am doing everything I can to deliver these to you and fix what needs to be fixed.
Just when you think it cant get anymore fishy -- *Pulls legal proceedings out of ass*He gave a timeline breakdown, what more are you looking for at this point other than to display your distrust/frustration with Jaxx to the world? Obviously it will be difficult, but if his claims of doing better to convey as much as he can hold true then what more is there to complain about other than the continued wait?
Just when you think it cant get anymore fishy -- *Pulls legal proceedings out of ass*He gave a timeline breakdown, what more are you looking for at this point other than to display your distrust/frustration with Jaxx to the world? Obviously it will be difficult, but if his claims of doing better to convey as much as he can hold true then what more is there to complain about other than the continued wait?
Lol now there's a riot because you didn't get an update 3 days after the last update. Ya'll gotta calm down
Lol now there's a riot because you didn't get an update 3 days after the last update. Ya'll gotta calm down
I’m as dense as you are entitled.Lol now there's a riot because you didn't get an update 3 days after the last update. Ya'll gotta calm down
How are you this dense?
I can't presume to know there isn't a personal emergency and I hate putting individuals on blast, but given some recent interaction and what I can only perceive as being ghosted, I'm just more disappointed than anything in all of this.
I would like to ask some questions that I think would help put people's minds at ease and maybe put timelines into perspective. With the last update saying the more realistic date to start shipping is May 24th, how many units would you say are projected to ship out? Are you able to provide us with what the production rate is? Of the boards produced, any estimate of how many are passing QC as we know PC can be a pain. Are you planning on shipping in waves or just one big batch? I really feel there is plenty of information that is not increadibly specific that would ease a lot of the tension that people in the buy are feeling.
I totally understand that you want to get this board produced and in people's hands more than anyone else, but as someone in the buy I really feel like we aren't getting a straight answer with whats going on.
Now that GMK Dracula is past color matching will this become the new Dracula?
My theory is Jaxx got screwed by his manufacturer and is trying to fix it by using a CNC machine during off-hours at work which is why there is so much secrecy.
Hmmm yall got any extras by chance?
My theory is Jaxx got screwed by his manufacturer and is trying to fix it by using a CNC machine during off-hours at work which is why there is so much secrecy.
Could be. Did not know he worked for CNC manufacture company? I thought in his updates that he borrowed money to start production I assumed he bought a machine with those borrowed funds., Who knows.
My theory is Jaxx got screwed by his manufacturer and is trying to fix it by using a CNC machine during off-hours at work which is why there is so much secrecy.
Could be. Did not know he worked for CNC manufacture company? I thought in his updates that he borrowed money to start production I assumed he bought a machine with those borrowed funds., Who knows.
He doesn't have to work for a CNC manufacture company for his work to have a CNC machine.
Surprise surprise another missed update from Jaxx who could've called it. Don't dare speak up on it though because that means you are impatient and entitled or you just want to complain to complain /s
Surprise surprise another missed update from Jaxx who could've called it. Don't dare speak up on it though because that means you are impatient and entitled or you just want to complain to complain /s
Disappointing, but not surprising at this point.
Surprise surprise another missed update from Jaxx who could've called it. Don't dare speak up on it though because that means you are impatient and entitled or you just want to complain to complain /s
Disappointing, but not surprising at this point.
I'm pretty sure he was being facetious. :))
BTW, I agree. This is becoming a **** show. Amazes me he cannot be transparent and forthright with buyers. At this point, you quit giving BS ETAs because all that does is give false hope and rightfully infuriates some (not all) buyers (just keeps adding fuel to the fire). What you DO do is keep giving frequent timeline updates as to what you are doing and where the bottlenecks are. Doesn't matter if there are no changes, you keep with weekly updates and it keeps your customers in the loop and aware. For a while it seemed like they were doing a decent job of it and then just locked down the server and said **** it. Wrong move as a GB runner IMO.
All bad signs and now just silence this is not looking good. Jaxx’s statements/excuses/reasons/updates and actions don’t match up or add up. In addition to stating he is strapped for cash(low funds) but continues to buy and participate in other keyboard GB doesn’t make sense. (e.g. dolphin tkl GB 4/24/2021) counting from the bottom 31 spaces up you will find a familiar person. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS8Bg0Ez_WpCmxlzOdaRuMjI3WMSu8Ei6DHlT3WVoW_7-ArHC5QRI0jJspDZAm7OQ/pubhtml?gid=1269326486&single=true
Seems like having issues with prioritization.
All bad signs and now just silence this is not looking good. Jaxx’s statements/excuses/reasons/updates and actions don’t match up or add up. In addition to stating he is strapped for cash(low funds) but continues to buy and participate in other keyboard GB doesn’t make sense. (e.g. dolphin tkl GB 4/24/2021) counting from the bottom 31 spaces up you will find a familiar person. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS8Bg0Ez_WpCmxlzOdaRuMjI3WMSu8Ei6DHlT3WVoW_7-ArHC5QRI0jJspDZAm7OQ/pubhtml?gid=1269326486&single=true
Seems like having issues with prioritization.
I've been keeping an eye on the thread. Not excusing what Jaxx has (or hasn't) done, esp in regards to communication. He needs to put out updates more plain and simple. Just sucks to see a minority of people would rather meme/be toxic about it.
However, this point is irrelevant in regards to the buy IMO. I can see why people would view him entering other buys as "problematic". But thinking "he hit on this board and is neglecting the buy" is a bit of a logical stretch. Drawing conclusions about his personal financial situation is inaccurate and a non-sequitur in regards to R2 itself.
He's not stupid. He's not dipping his hand in the cookie jar to fund other gbs he wants to get in on.
How do I know? He told me.
Is he lying? While possible, it's HIGHLY improbable. Speak to anyone who knows Jaxx about his reputation within the hobby and you'll find he's one of the most honorable people within the community. Not only that, the potential repercussions of "short term gains" for him entering gbs -- with funds from R2 is in the state it's in -- will have severe long term effects on himself, his business, and his family. I know for a fact that he wouldn't risk the livelihood of his family for getting a board he wants. Not when he has so many boards, sets, artisans, which he can and HAS BEEN selling off to fund whatever he needs.
People being upset at him or at how he runs the buy, while I personally don't agree with that behavior, I at least understand it.
What Jaxx does or doesn't do with his personal finances, his collection, etc outside of the R2 gb shouldn't be discussed here. We don't know what his personal life is like, and it's not our place to pry.
All bad signs and now just silence this is not looking good. Jaxx’s statements/excuses/reasons/updates and actions don’t match up or add up. In addition to stating he is strapped for cash(low funds) but continues to buy and participate in other keyboard GB doesn’t make sense. (e.g. dolphin tkl GB 4/24/2021) counting from the bottom 31 spaces up you will find a familiar person. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS8Bg0Ez_WpCmxlzOdaRuMjI3WMSu8Ei6DHlT3WVoW_7-ArHC5QRI0jJspDZAm7OQ/pubhtml?gid=1269326486&single=true
Seems like having issues with prioritization.
I've been keeping an eye on the thread. Not excusing what Jaxx has (or hasn't) done, esp in regards to communication. He needs to put out updates more plain and simple. Just sucks to see a minority of people would rather meme/be toxic about it.
However, this point is irrelevant in regards to the buy IMO. I can see why people would view him entering other buys as "problematic". But thinking "he hit on this board and is neglecting the buy" is a bit of a logical stretch. Drawing conclusions about his personal financial situation is inaccurate and a non-sequitur in regards to R2 itself.
He's not stupid. He's not dipping his hand in the cookie jar to fund other gbs he wants to get in on.
How do I know? He told me.
Is he lying? While possible, it's HIGHLY improbable. Speak to anyone who knows Jaxx about his reputation within the hobby and you'll find he's one of the most honorable people within the community. Not only that, the potential repercussions of "short term gains" for him entering gbs -- with funds from R2 is in the state it's in -- will have severe long term effects on himself, his business, and his family. I know for a fact that he wouldn't risk the livelihood of his family for getting a board he wants. Not when he has so many boards, sets, artisans, which he can and HAS BEEN selling off to fund whatever he needs.
People being upset at him or at how he runs the buy, while I personally don't agree with that behavior, I at least understand it.
What Jaxx does or doesn't do with his personal finances, his collection, etc outside of the R2 gb shouldn't be discussed here. We don't know what his personal life is like, and it's not our place to pry.
So are we getting an update or not?
I've been keeping an eye on the thread. Not excusing what Jaxx has (or hasn't) done, esp in regards to communication. He needs to put out updates more plain and simple. Just sucks to see a minority of people would rather meme/be toxic about it.
However, this point is irrelevant in regards to the buy IMO. I can see why people would view him entering other buys as "problematic". But thinking "he hit on this board and is neglecting the buy" is a bit of a logical stretch. Drawing conclusions about his personal financial situation is inaccurate and a non-sequitur in regards to R2 itself.
He's not stupid. He's not dipping his hand in the cookie jar to fund other gbs he wants to get in on.
How do I know? He told me.
Speak to anyone who knows Jaxx about his reputation within the hobby and you'll find he's one of the most honorable people within the community.
Not only that, the potential repercussions of "short term gains" for him entering gbs -- with funds from R2 is in the state it's in -- will have severe long term effects on himself, his business, and his family. I know for a fact that he wouldn't risk the livelihood of his family for getting a board he wants. Not when he has so many boards, sets, artisans, which he can and HAS BEEN selling off to fund whatever he needs.
People being upset at him or at how he runs the buy, while I personally don't agree with that behavior, I at least understand it.
What Jaxx does or doesn't do with his personal finances, his collection, etc outside of the R2 gb shouldn't be discussed here. We don't know what his personal life is like, and it's not our place to pry.
I've been keeping an eye on the thread. Not excusing what Jaxx has (or hasn't) done, esp in regards to communication. He needs to put out updates more plain and simple. Just sucks to see a minority of people would rather meme/be toxic about it.
However, this point is irrelevant in regards to the buy IMO. I can see why people would view him entering other buys as "problematic". But thinking "he hit on this board and is neglecting the buy" is a bit of a logical stretch. Drawing conclusions about his personal financial situation is inaccurate and a non-sequitur in regards to R2 itself.
He's not stupid. He's not dipping his hand in the cookie jar to fund other gbs he wants to get in on.
How do I know? He told me.
Is he lying? While possible, it's HIGHLY improbable. Speak to anyone who knows Jaxx about his reputation within the hobby and you'll find he's one of the most honorable people within the community. Not only that, the potential repercussions of "short term gains" for him entering gbs -- with funds from R2 is in the state it's in -- will have severe long term effects on himself, his business, and his family. I know for a fact that he wouldn't risk the livelihood of his family for getting a board he wants. Not when he has so many boards, sets, artisans, which he can and HAS BEEN selling off to fund whatever he needs.
People being upset at him or at how he runs the buy, while I personally don't agree with that behavior, I at least understand it.
What Jaxx does or doesn't do with his personal finances, his collection, etc outside of the R2 gb shouldn't be discussed here. We don't know what his personal life is like, and it's not our place to pry.
Curious if anyone has been PMing him on Discord and getting any replies.
Curious if anyone has been PMing him on Discord and getting any replies.I have dm’d him on a few different apps and I haven’t gotten a single reply, though I wasn’t expecting to get one
it’s not toxic, we as buyers are being flat out disrespected. It takes less than 5 minutes to provide an update. It’s been nearly a week since the estimated ship date and 3 weeks since we last got an “update”
I hope this didn't come across as toxic or aggressive. I know Jaxx has stated he had issues with that in the past. I just wanted to get my very real feelings about this out there and try and find out what the actual status is.
Curious if anyone has been PMing him on Discord and getting any replies.
Curious if anyone has been PMing him on Discord and getting any replies.
if people know any1 in the r2 se buy they should ask them to share the replies jaxx gave to them while keeping quiet to every1 in the normal buy. would think if he could send msgs to people in the se part of the buy he could do that for every1. maybe kimchi can post the updates that jaxx provided there to give an idea of what is happening. probably not going to happen but at least ppl in the standard buy can be given the same info like the alu tops not actually existing since not even se buyers have seen them.
Man, I love the look of this board! Hope they do an R3!
Man, I love the look of this board! Hope they do an R3!
Lmao, have you read this thread? Proceed with caution buddy.
Jaxx left something on your chin bro
I've been keeping an eye on the thread. Not excusing what Jaxx has (or hasn't) done, esp in regards to communication. He needs to put out updates more plain and simple. Just sucks to see a minority of people would rather meme/be toxic about it.
However, this point is irrelevant in regards to the buy IMO. I can see why people would view him entering other buys as "problematic". But thinking "he hit on this board and is neglecting the buy" is a bit of a logical stretch. Drawing conclusions about his personal financial situation is inaccurate and a non-sequitur in regards to R2 itself.
He's not stupid. He's not dipping his hand in the cookie jar to fund other gbs he wants to get in on.
How do I know? He told me.
Is he lying? While possible, it's HIGHLY improbable. Speak to anyone who knows Jaxx about his reputation within the hobby and you'll find he's one of the most honorable people within the community. Not only that, the potential repercussions of "short term gains" for him entering gbs -- with funds from R2 is in the state it's in -- will have severe long term effects on himself, his business, and his family. I know for a fact that he wouldn't risk the livelihood of his family for getting a board he wants. Not when he has so many boards, sets, artisans, which he can and HAS BEEN selling off to fund whatever he needs.
People being upset at him or at how he runs the buy, while I personally don't agree with that behavior, I at least understand it.
What Jaxx does or doesn't do with his personal finances, his collection, etc outside of the R2 gb shouldn't be discussed here. We don't know what his personal life is like, and it's not our place to pry.
Curious if anyone has been PMing him on Discord and getting any replies.
if people know any1 in the r2 se buy they should ask them to share the replies jaxx gave to them while keeping quiet to every1 in the normal buy. would think if he could send msgs to people in the se part of the buy he could do that for every1. maybe kimchi can post the updates that jaxx provided there to give an idea of what is happening. probably not going to happen but at least ppl in the standard buy can be given the same info like the alu tops not actually existing since not even se buyers have seen them.
Curious if anyone has been PMing him on Discord and getting any replies.
if people know any1 in the r2 se buy they should ask them to share the replies jaxx gave to them while keeping quiet to every1 in the normal buy. would think if he could send msgs to people in the se part of the buy he could do that for every1. maybe kimchi can post the updates that jaxx provided there to give an idea of what is happening. probably not going to happen but at least ppl in the standard buy can be given the same info like the alu tops not actually existing since not even se buyers have seen them.
I'll reach out to Jaxx and see if I can push him to put out an update asap. But there's only so much I can do at this point.
Don't worry your mom cleaned it up for meJaxx left something on your chin bro
I've been keeping an eye on the thread. Not excusing what Jaxx has (or hasn't) done, esp in regards to communication. He needs to put out updates more plain and simple. Just sucks to see a minority of people would rather meme/be toxic about it.
However, this point is irrelevant in regards to the buy IMO. I can see why people would view him entering other buys as "problematic". But thinking "he hit on this board and is neglecting the buy" is a bit of a logical stretch. Drawing conclusions about his personal financial situation is inaccurate and a non-sequitur in regards to R2 itself.
He's not stupid. He's not dipping his hand in the cookie jar to fund other gbs he wants to get in on.
How do I know? He told me.
Is he lying? While possible, it's HIGHLY improbable. Speak to anyone who knows Jaxx about his reputation within the hobby and you'll find he's one of the most honorable people within the community. Not only that, the potential repercussions of "short term gains" for him entering gbs -- with funds from R2 is in the state it's in -- will have severe long term effects on himself, his business, and his family. I know for a fact that he wouldn't risk the livelihood of his family for getting a board he wants. Not when he has so many boards, sets, artisans, which he can and HAS BEEN selling off to fund whatever he needs.
People being upset at him or at how he runs the buy, while I personally don't agree with that behavior, I at least understand it.
What Jaxx does or doesn't do with his personal finances, his collection, etc outside of the R2 gb shouldn't be discussed here. We don't know what his personal life is like, and it's not our place to pry.
Curious if anyone has been PMing him on Discord and getting any replies.
if people know any1 in the r2 se buy they should ask them to share the replies jaxx gave to them while keeping quiet to every1 in the normal buy. would think if he could send msgs to people in the se part of the buy he could do that for every1. maybe kimchi can post the updates that jaxx provided there to give an idea of what is happening. probably not going to happen but at least ppl in the standard buy can be given the same info like the alu tops not actually existing since not even se buyers have seen them.
I'll reach out to Jaxx and see if I can push him to put out an update asap. But there's only so much I can do at this point.
Don't worry your mom cleaned it up for meJaxx left something on your chin bro
I've been keeping an eye on the thread. Not excusing what Jaxx has (or hasn't) done, esp in regards to communication. He needs to put out updates more plain and simple. Just sucks to see a minority of people would rather meme/be toxic about it.
However, this point is irrelevant in regards to the buy IMO. I can see why people would view him entering other buys as "problematic". But thinking "he hit on this board and is neglecting the buy" is a bit of a logical stretch. Drawing conclusions about his personal financial situation is inaccurate and a non-sequitur in regards to R2 itself.
He's not stupid. He's not dipping his hand in the cookie jar to fund other gbs he wants to get in on.
How do I know? He told me.
Is he lying? While possible, it's HIGHLY improbable. Speak to anyone who knows Jaxx about his reputation within the hobby and you'll find he's one of the most honorable people within the community. Not only that, the potential repercussions of "short term gains" for him entering gbs -- with funds from R2 is in the state it's in -- will have severe long term effects on himself, his business, and his family. I know for a fact that he wouldn't risk the livelihood of his family for getting a board he wants. Not when he has so many boards, sets, artisans, which he can and HAS BEEN selling off to fund whatever he needs.
People being upset at him or at how he runs the buy, while I personally don't agree with that behavior, I at least understand it.
What Jaxx does or doesn't do with his personal finances, his collection, etc outside of the R2 gb shouldn't be discussed here. We don't know what his personal life is like, and it's not our place to pry.
For someone who is supposed to be a known member & streamer in the community and have an active role in this group buy, this is just completely unprofessional. It doesn't matter if alwaysbless antagonizes you with a rude comment, you're one of the representatives of this group buy and should behave appropriately. These kind of comments in this thread that already is full of tension and upset customers just worsens the situation, makes jaxx look worse, and makes you look like a child without the capacity to handle the responsibility. Take a deep breath and think before you respond to certain things.
This is the 2nd time at least, his previous similar comments were deleted. Guy should get some nice ban hammer time to reflectAgreed. Complaining about the GB us understandable, but blatant trolling in a GB thread should be insta-ban for a bit.
Latest update said boards will start shipping May 24th. So people should have product in hand soon and the debate will die down. He also promised weekly updates in discord so another should be coming this week.
Latest update said boards will start shipping May 24th. So people should have product in hand soon and the debate will die down. He also promised weekly updates in discord so another should be coming this week.
From the look of your picture itd be more likely it was my dad ;D
only so much u can do? y cant u just post screenshots of the se room for every1 to see? no need to wait for jaxx if he posted update there. are u saying jaxx did not post in the se channel? i hope u wont lie but u prbly just go back to being silent like jaxx
For someone who is supposed to be a known member & streamer in the community and have an active role in this group buy, this is just completely unprofessional. It doesn't matter if alwaysbless antagonizes you with a rude comment, you're one of the representatives of this group buy and should behave appropriately. These kind of comments in this thread that already is full of tension and upset customers just worsens the situation, makes jaxx look worse, and makes you look like a child without the capacity to handle the responsibility. Take a deep breath and think before you respond to certain things.
I'm very disappointed in this GB. There have been so many broken promises and an unacceptable lack of communication from jaxx. I get that delays happen. Personally I don't really mind waiting for a board that I know is going to be lovely. But seeing the discord server get locked down sucks. Checking back on the locked server every day to see if there's an update sucks (hint: there isn't.) Being lied to sucks. Checking the geekhack page to find out he's got a separate channel of communication for people who purchased the SE board sucks.
I no longer have any confidence that my board even exists. First it was stuck on a boat. Then it was sliced and diced by a box cutter. Then it was manufactured again in house. Then it was stuck in a SCIF because he works in a SCIF and that's where the cnc is. Then jaxx is selling bongos because he's having trouble paying for electricity for machining costs (is this the same cnc machine in the SCIF? Why on earth are you paying your employer's electric bill? I'm so confused and this just feels like I'm being lied to.)
I've heard so many people speak high praise of jaxx and how he's "an honorable man" or "a very trustworthy groupbuy runner." My experience with this groupbuy has given me the opposite impression. The longer this goes on, the more I feel like I've been scammed. I don't want a refund. I don't intend to attempt a chargeback with the bank. I just want my board.
I think most people here are simply expressing their disappointment in how unabashedly uncommunicative jaxx is. Memes and toxicity should be ignored, but don't confuse that for legitimate concern and justifiable anger.
I generally agree that personal purchases shouldn't be confused for ignoring business needs but I can see where consumers come from in thinking that on one side of the coin he is saying "no more refunds," while simultaneously buying a brand new keyboard.
Sure wish Jaxx would communicate with his customers like he does with you.
I touched on reputation in a previous post. Prior to this debacle I would agree that his reputation would be considerably good and that you could trust that you'd get a keyboard in the end. Jaxx's inability to communicate when issues arise, when deadlines have passed, when again, customers, are led to believe that shipping would commence earlier this week but instead of sharing why, there's just deafening silence. Jaxx's reputation is not good right now.
So, if you do not agree with people voicing concern and understandable (as you say) anger, how would you prefer it happen? Customers have been trying to get some kind of information out of this whole thing and while toxic behavior may have led to the lockdown of the ability to send messages in Discord, it doesn't prevent Jaxx from providing communication to his (you know it's coming) customers via that same means.
To think, all of this could be remedied (yes, even now) by a simple regular update interval.
Firstly, I do not work for Jaxx. I have no access to any pictures, his warehouse, the units, manu facilities, etc. Everything I was doing in the server was just relaying information regarding updates whenever Jaxx got too busy. Because you know...that's what mods do.
only so much u can do? y cant u just post screenshots of the se room for every1 to see? no need to wait for jaxx if he posted update there. are u saying jaxx did not post in the se channel? i hope u wont lie but u prbly just go back to being silent like jaxx
Secondly, I'm in this gb just like everyone else. And to those wondering (because people asked) I paid for a unit with my own money. I'm entitled to an opinion and should be allowed to voice them. If I think the thread requires me to respond, I will. Personal attack or not.
Sure wish Jaxx would communicate with his customers like he does with you.
Yeah me too...
considering that your account was made only a month ago you either don't have the balls to ask this stuff on your main account or you aren't in this buy and are here just to troll.Firstly, I do not work for Jaxx. I have no access to any pictures, his warehouse, the units, manu facilities, etc. Everything I was doing in the server was just relaying information regarding updates whenever Jaxx got too busy. Because you know...that's what mods do.
only so much u can do? y cant u just post screenshots of the se room for every1 to see? no need to wait for jaxx if he posted update there. are u saying jaxx did not post in the se channel? i hope u wont lie but u prbly just go back to being silent like jaxx
Secondly, I'm in this gb just like everyone else. And to those wondering (because people asked) I paid for a unit with my own money. I'm entitled to an opinion and should be allowed to voice them. If I think the thread requires me to respond, I will. Personal attack or not.Sure wish Jaxx would communicate with his customers like he does with you.
Yeah me too...
i dint say u work 4 him bro. i say bc u mod u can post screenshot of the se channel where jaxx has post updates and option for se buyers. pls show where i say u can get photo of things. i say alu tops not exist bc he answer other q's in there channel but not the 1 abt the alu tops so i say they dont exist. y he update se buyers and not every1? u think that is good? y u not speak up abt that? no1 care how u got a board. ppl want answers. u keep sayin u wish u could do sumthing show the updates jaxx give se buyers so every1 knows wat is happening like they know. u can do that ya? i tell u how, press prntscreen button and then ctrl+v paste to thread. u welcum
From Discord
Were prototype pcbs not ordered and test fit month ago, or even after in house manufacturing started? With the mention of having to remove about 1mm from the bottom of the case, how many are done and ready for this process before being QCed again? Jaxx, please level with us, your customers, and let us know what’s going on. We’re all adults and can relate to projects getting out of hand, but please it seems like you don’t respect us enough to give us the truth.
considering that your account was made only a month ago you either don't have the balls to ask this stuff on your main account or you aren't in this buy and are here just to troll.Firstly, I do not work for Jaxx. I have no access to any pictures, his warehouse, the units, manu facilities, etc. Everything I was doing in the server was just relaying information regarding updates whenever Jaxx got too busy. Because you know...that's what mods do.
only so much u can do? y cant u just post screenshots of the se room for every1 to see? no need to wait for jaxx if he posted update there. are u saying jaxx did not post in the se channel? i hope u wont lie but u prbly just go back to being silent like jaxx
Secondly, I'm in this gb just like everyone else. And to those wondering (because people asked) I paid for a unit with my own money. I'm entitled to an opinion and should be allowed to voice them. If I think the thread requires me to respond, I will. Personal attack or not.Sure wish Jaxx would communicate with his customers like he does with you.
Yeah me too...
i dint say u work 4 him bro. i say bc u mod u can post screenshot of the se channel where jaxx has post updates and option for se buyers. pls show where i say u can get photo of things. i say alu tops not exist bc he answer other q's in there channel but not the 1 abt the alu tops so i say they dont exist. y he update se buyers and not every1? u think that is good? y u not speak up abt that? no1 care how u got a board. ppl want answers. u keep sayin u wish u could do sumthing show the updates jaxx give se buyers so every1 knows wat is happening like they know. u can do that ya? i tell u how, press prntscreen button and then ctrl+v paste to thread. u welcum
As someone how does have money in this buy.
I don't care about screenshots.
I don't care about apologies.
I just want my board.
And I really don't care for trolls who don't have any part in this buy, I'm personally getting more anxious about this buy as each day passes. And honestly, if Jaxx is reading this forum I would greatly appreciate a post in the discord just saying that he is still working on the boards or something to indicate that he hasn't ghosted the buy. I understand that jaxx is a good guy but this level of communication really isn't acceptable.
I understand that people are expressing their anger/discomfort for this buy via this thread but the people trolling need to stop. Otherwise this thread might as well end up like the discord...
Say what you want about kimchi but he has also paid his own money for this board.
I'm sure that anyone who is in the buy and kimchi himself is sick and tired of low quality ****posts like these.
There was an update sent to people who bought the SE edition 4 days ago before the update we just got.
https://imgur.com/a/o7ORcfA
n i help give u push to get money back insted of wait 4 board that never show upIf your only incentive for posting in the thread is to get people to bail on the GB then don't even post. Despite the frustration everyone has they are making their own choices on how they wanna handle it. What you're trying to do is f***ed.
Hey @kimchijody, could you please contact me on Discord regarding Rukia? Been searching for you. I'm Gondolindrim#9738
Hey @kimchijody, could you please contact me on Discord regarding Rukia? Been searching for you. I'm Gondolindrim#9738
If I recall correctly, didn't you design the Rukia PCB?
n i help give u push to get money back insted of wait 4 board that never show upIf your only incentive for posting in the thread is to get people to bail on the GB then don't even post. Despite the frustration everyone has they are making their own choices on how they wanna handle it. What you're trying to do is f***ed.
Hey @kimchijody, could you please contact me on Discord regarding Rukia? Been searching for you. I'm Gondolindrim#9738
If I recall correctly, didn't you design the Rukia PCB?
Indeed. I delivered the files in september and have not heard from him since; no prototype talks, no issues, nothing. I just assumed it was going smoothly. This week I've been receiving tens of messages a day about this PCB (some borderline moronic like "You are silent because you are covering Jaxx up" or "You should tell Jaxx you are doubling your commission charges") when I am not even getting a Rukia and I was not paid a dime of any commissions yet as no units were produced (besides prototypes). Yesterday someone pointed me towards this thread and Jaxx's updates, none of which I was aware of, and it left me infuriated that I was not contacted, warned, consulted, asked or even hinted at regarding the PCB prototypes having issues. It's my logo on there, it is my name, I take pride in stuff I do and being sidelined like this is blood boiling.
I am already in touch with Jaxx about the PCB. He tells me that it has been hard sourcing some parts for the PCB due to the part shortage, and I can't blame him there. This IC shortage is affecting everyone. What I was absolutely not aware of was fitment issues or components being too tall to fit the case; during the PCB development I worked profusely with Jaxx, supplying him 3D model files of the PCB during all stages of the design and altering the PCB to purpose and according to his recommendations, to make sure everything ranging from PCB outlines to connector fit and, ever since september, he has not contacted me about prototypes... which is rather weird because I have not even supplied him a firmware yet. So if he has prototypes they were not tested correctly.
I offered to revise the PCB design and coordinate with the factory and suppliers to swap out any problematic components in order to make the PCB cheaper and easier to manufacture, not by reducing quality but by carefully choosing components that are available at reasonable pricing right now. For every component used there are several alternatives that can replace it with minor to no modifications in the design. Fitment issues will also be discussed.
As for the case manufacturing, or the delivering, I can't say much as I am not involved in that. I am also unable to judge Jaxx on his communication or the way he's been conducting his GB because not only it is not in my realm of responsibility but also not my prerrogative. All I can take responsibility on is the PCB.
Hey @kimchijody, could you please contact me on Discord regarding Rukia? Been searching for you. I'm Gondolindrim#9738
If I recall correctly, didn't you design the Rukia PCB?
Indeed. I delivered the files in september and have not heard from him since; no prototype talks, no issues, nothing. I just assumed it was going smoothly. This week I've been receiving tens of messages a day about this PCB (some borderline moronic like "You are silent because you are covering Jaxx up" or "You should tell Jaxx you are doubling your commission charges") when I am not even getting a Rukia and I was not paid a dime of any commissions yet as no units were produced (besides prototypes). Yesterday someone pointed me towards this thread and Jaxx's updates, none of which I was aware of, and it left me infuriated that I was not contacted, warned, consulted, asked or even hinted at regarding the PCB prototypes having issues. It's my logo on there, it is my name, I take pride in stuff I do and being sidelined like this is blood boiling.
I am already in touch with Jaxx about the PCB. He tells me that it has been hard sourcing some parts for the PCB due to the part shortage, and I can't blame him there. This IC shortage is affecting everyone. What I was absolutely not aware of was fitment issues or components being too tall to fit the case; during the PCB development I worked profusely with Jaxx, supplying him 3D model files of the PCB during all stages of the design and altering the PCB to purpose and according to his recommendations, to make sure everything ranging from PCB outlines to connector fit and, ever since september, he has not contacted me about prototypes... which is rather weird because I have not even supplied him a firmware yet. So if he has prototypes they were not tested correctly.
I offered to revise the PCB design and coordinate with the factory and suppliers to swap out any problematic components in order to make the PCB cheaper and easier to manufacture, not by reducing quality but by carefully choosing components that are available at reasonable pricing right now. For every component used there are several alternatives that can replace it with minor to no modifications in the design. Fitment issues will also be discussed.
As for the case manufacturing, or the delivering, I can't say much as I am not involved in that. I am also unable to judge Jaxx on his communication or the way he's been conducting his GB because not only it is not in my realm of responsibility but also not my prerrogative. All I can take responsibility on is the PCB.
Thank you for this information Gondo, it is greatly appreciated. I believe it is clear at this point that Jaxx has not been truthful with us, and boards have never been ready to ship at any point, considering PCBs weren't ordered, and FW hasn't even been requested or delivered.
Ok people, good news.
The fitment issue is not a PCB issue, so it is clear. We are just left with quoting prototypes and large-scale quantities in several fabs, and possibly tuning the design to use components that are better available.
I have done what I could. Jaxx knows I am all his to make this happen and I will do everything in my power to see people have their keyboards.
Now guys, please stop DMing me. Unless its nudes, in which case by all means. Just know I'll send some back.
Ok people, good news.
The fitment issue is not a PCB issue, so it is clear. We are just left with quoting prototypes and large-scale quantities in several fabs, and possibly tuning the design to use components that are better available.
I have done what I could. Jaxx knows I am all his to make this happen and I will do everything in my power to see people have their keyboards.
Now guys, please stop DMing me. Unless its nudes, in which case by all means. Just know I'll send some back.
Ok. Thank you Gondo for trying. So when you say it is not a PCB issue that means the earlier statement from Jaxx to LE group stating PCB components have clearance issue will or should no longer be an issues from tuning/selecting the correct or alternative components to avoid clearance issues?
Is it safe to say at this time PCB were not ordered so large quantities of the PCB don't exist and need to still be ordered?
In summary, the remaining issues are in a nutshell.
1. refinish or remanufacture rukia cases & weights depending on the damage
2. order and wait ro PCB?
If only he had reached out and been transparent I'm sure there would have been quite a few individuals that could of offered help and advised as you have. Thank you again.
Long time lurker here: I have some friends who joined the GB and I'm hoping they receive their boards soon. Why does Jaxx post updates in a Discord server that has been shut down? I feel like it should be posted on Geekhack as well because not everyone is on the Discord server. My friends aren't active on Discord and check Geekhack.
Also, given the status of the cases AND the PCBs, are there plans to re-open the GB for all the charged-back spots that are happening due to the delays (assuming the board cases are done)? It wouldn't make sense for Jaxx to sit on a ton of Rukia cases.
For the people who only requested the case, what happens if the aftermarket PCBs don't work? Are you just going to sit on an empty Rukia case for months until Gondo's PCBs are complete?
not surprised it was an issue with the case size- not warping, not threads, etc. it was fairly suspect that something was wrong with the cases when he did not want to ship boards without pcbs instead to try to pass it off as an issue with the components of pcbs instead (becos of course we could use aftermarket pcb instead if he just gave us the case... problem was those wouldnt work either)
"more info tomorrow"
- Jaxxstatic, 5/31/2021
"more info tomorrow"
- Jaxxstatic, 5/31/2021
You guys should vent your anger at Jaxx instead of fighting each other.
I just spoke with Jaxx briefly. Case tolerance adjustments are moving forward and progressing well. PCB parts sourcing/manufacturing has been resolved and is moving forward with Gondo's assistance. That's a summation of the conversation.
As someone who has been in a number of group buys with delays, unresponsive runners, etc., the response here feels rather overblown.
Yes, there have been a several runners who have taken people's money and ran. That doesn't mean every group buy with setbacks is a scam. I can't speak too much on this particular group buy as my only information is coming from this thread and Discord, but as long the runner is making some effort (which jaxx appears to be doing), I'm fine leaving it at that and forgetting the whole mess until my board ships.
The only thing that actually annoys me here is that people who are not in this buy are spreading negative opinions and uncertainty. If you are in the buy, then by all means continue adding to the discussion. If you are not, reconsider why you are posting here in the first place.
Case tolerance adjustments are moving forward and progressing well. PCB parts sourcing/manufacturing has been resolved and is moving forward with Gondo's assistance. That's a summation of the conversation.
I forget how hard it is to make a short post on geekhack and or discord.
I just spoke with Jaxx briefly. Case tolerance adjustments are moving forward and progressing well. PCB parts sourcing/manufacturing has been resolved and is moving forward with Gondo's assistance. That's a summation of the conversation.
Awesome, thanks for the update. Is this something Jaxx will post personally here and the Discord server so the other GB participants can know that things are moving along? I have friends who only check the Discord updates so it would be nice to get an official word about it from Jaxx.
I just spoke with Jaxx briefly. Case tolerance adjustments are moving forward and progressing well. PCB parts sourcing/manufacturing has been resolved and is moving forward with Gondo's assistance. That's a summation of the conversation.
Awesome, thanks for the update. Is this something Jaxx will post personally here and the Discord server so the other GB participants can know that things are moving along? I have friends who only check the Discord updates so it would be nice to get an official word about it from Jaxx.
Doubtful unfortunately from his obvious silence. I'm just passing along what he told me in the DM from Discord.
I just spoke with Jaxx briefly. Case tolerance adjustments are moving forward and progressing well. PCB parts sourcing/manufacturing has been resolved and is moving forward with Gondo's assistance. That's a summation of the conversation.
Awesome, thanks for the update. Is this something Jaxx will post personally here and the Discord server so the other GB participants can know that things are moving along? I have friends who only check the Discord updates so it would be nice to get an official word about it from Jaxx.
Doubtful unfortunately from his obvious silence. I'm just passing along what he told me in the DM from Discord.
Yeah that’s super unfortunate that the updates have been limited to SE buyers and/or reaching out via DMs. I’m sure Jaxx is working hard to fix the fitment issues but it doesn’t hurt to take 5-10 minutes once every week to post an official update on how things are moving along. I’m not here to flame Jaxx but like many people here we are hoping he is learning from his mistakes. The communication part seems like an easy thing to improve for him but he hasn’t shown any improvement.
The frustrating part is I didn’t join this group buy to be part of someone’s CNC growing pains. This seems to get glossed over when people talk about buyers complaining about lack of transparency. I regret not taking the out when Jaxx was offering refunds, but live and learn. Guess I’m watching this till the bitter end.
seems pretty obvious that jax used the gb money to buy a cnc a machine. the fitment issues are just growing pains of learning how to cnc
So what you're telling me is that shutting down the discord server, delayed updates with no substantial information, and the lack of communication is okay because it's technically not ghosting. Interesting....seems pretty obvious that jax used the gb money to buy a cnc a machine. the fitment issues are just growing pains of learning how to cnc
At least he trying to fulfill his orders. Woodkeys did the same and then ghosted when his uninsured, used industrial grade CNC machine broke.
seems pretty obvious that jax used the gb money to buy a cnc a machine. the fitment issues are just growing pains of learning how to cnc
At least he trying to fulfill his orders. Woodkeys did the same and then ghosted when his uninsured, used industrial grade CNC machine broke.
seems pretty obvious that jax used the gb money to buy a cnc a machine. the fitment issues are just growing pains of learning how to cnc
At least he trying to fulfill his orders. Woodkeys did the same and then ghosted when his uninsured, used industrial grade CNC machine broke.
The frustrating part is I didn’t join this group buy to be part of someone’s CNC growing pains. This seems to get glossed over when people talk about buyers complaining about lack of transparency. I regret not taking the out when Jaxx was offering refunds, but live and learn. Guess I’m watching this till the bitter end.
If a class action is open, how many of you will join?
Jaxx is a “respected community member” with 0 respect for the community
Yeah…. What ever happened to the “weekly” updates?
Holy crap, that guy totally went dark on all platforms — facebook, instagram, twitter, his own blog.Not condoning the ghosting-esque behavior, but when people say **** like this
Hope Jaxx didn't go out for a pack of cigarettes.
If a class action is open, how many of you will join?I can't particularly blame him completely from going dark.
jaxxstatic — Today at 2:51 AM
Non-update:
PCBs incoming.
~1/4 of the way through re-finishing (sandblasting) bottoms. Material has been removed.
Will give an ETA when it can be anywhere close to accurate.
Just so everyone not on discord can see this. Just happened 9 minutes ago
Hello it is treeleaf
Let me weigh in with my useless opinion
1. While I did not join the Rukia group buy, I think it's fair enough to say Everyone does not like having group buys delayed.
2. The second worst thing to when possessing another's money (first is outright scamming) is lack of communication, especially if you haven't delivered on your promises to give them a product within a certain time frame.
I have had a bad case of depression in the last few months. I didn't want to get out of bed. I hated my life. I just wanted everything to be over.
... and I behaved similarly to the way Mr Jaxx is behaving now. When I started failing my classes, rather than solving my problems by working harder in school, my depression made it impossible to catch up. It's not that I didn't want to work, it's that I couldn't work.
--
Dearest Mr Jaxx: I hope you're feeling ok. Reach out to me. I'm here for you.
To everyone else: The keyboard didn't work out. Getting angry at him will not magically solve your problem. The best you can do is cooperate, wait, and hope for the best. [/color]
jaxxstatic — Today at 2:51 AM
Non-update:
PCBs incoming.
~1/4 of the way through re-finishing (sandblasting) bottoms. Material has been removed.
Will give an ETA when it can be anywhere close to accurate.
Just so everyone not on discord can see this. Just happened 9 minutes ago
This is what I don't get. So, none of the boards are actually ready?
A lot of the updates have been very conflicting. You're telling me that after a year, the PCBs weren't ordered, the boards were all brutally destroyed by a box cutter and even though we had a tentative shipping date of May 24th, the boards are still being sandblasted? None of these make sense.
I get that it's hard and I honestly don't mind waiting. But I'd really love some transparency and honesty.
Group buys should have a sith rule of 2. That way someone can be dedicated to updates and handle the client side with full transparency from the runner. It’s a lot for one person to handle this… a lot of stress. When I become stressed/anxious/depressed I become avoidant because I don’t want to disappoint people. An apprentice could help! Just don’t let them kill you in your sleep :-XAgree, partner in crime is always good ~ even if it's just moral support!
jaxxstatic — Today at 2:51 AM
Non-update:
PCBs incoming.
~1/4 of the way through re-finishing (sandblasting) bottoms. Material has been removed.
Will give an ETA when it can be anywhere close to accurate.
Just so everyone not on discord can see this. Just happened 9 minutes ago
jaxxstatic — Today at 2:51 AM
Non-update:
PCBs incoming.
~1/4 of the way through re-finishing (sandblasting) bottoms. Material has been removed.
Will give an ETA when it can be anywhere close to accurate.
Just so everyone not on discord can see this. Just happened 9 minutes ago
Nah, he said the fitment issue wasn’t the PCB, the case was wrong
I don’t quite understand jaxx’s latest update. Material has to be removed from bottom portion of the case? I though Gondo in June 1st states there was no PCB fitment issues. Am I not understanding correctly? Seems like contradictory information.
Hello it is treeleaf
Let me weigh in with my useless opinion
1. While I did not join the Rukia group buy, I think it's fair enough to say Everyone does not like having group buys delayed.
2. The second worst thing to when possessing another's money (first is outright scamming) is lack of communication, especially if you haven't delivered on your promises to give them a product within a certain time frame.
I have had a bad case of depression in the last few months. I didn't want to get out of bed. I hated my life. I just wanted everything to be over.
... and I behaved similarly to the way Mr Jaxx is behaving now. When I started failing my classes, rather than solving my problems by working harder in school, my depression made it impossible to catch up. It's not that I didn't want to work, it's that I couldn't work.
--
Dearest Mr Jaxx: I hope you're feeling ok. Reach out to me. I'm here for you.
To everyone else: The keyboard didn't work out. Getting angry at him will not magically solve your problem. The best you can do is cooperate, wait, and hope for the best. [/color]
jaxxstatic — Today at 2:51 AM
Non-update:
PCBs incoming.
~1/4 of the way through re-finishing (sandblasting) bottoms. Material has been removed.
Will give an ETA when it can be anywhere close to accurate.
Just so everyone not on discord can see this. Just happened 9 minutes ago
Nah, he said the fitment issue wasn’t the PCB, the case was wrong
I don’t quite understand jaxx’s latest update. Material has to be removed from bottom portion of the case? I though Gondo in June 1st states there was no PCB fitment issues. Am I not understanding correctly? Seems like contradictory information.
if only the PCBs were ordered a year ago!
jaxxstatic — Today at 2:51 AM
Non-update:
PCBs incoming.
~1/4 of the way through re-finishing (sandblasting) bottoms. Material has been removed.
Will give an ETA when it can be anywhere close to accurate.
Just so everyone not on discord can see this. Just happened 9 minutes ago
Nah, he said the fitment issue wasn’t the PCB, the case was wrong
I don’t quite understand jaxx’s latest update. Material has to be removed from bottom portion of the case? I though Gondo in June 1st states there was no PCB fitment issues. Am I not understanding correctly? Seems like contradictory information.
The PCB and case were designed with a specific set of components in mind - the USB port, capacitors, resistors, sockets, LEDs, etc.
PCBs take a lot less time to do than the cases so they're normally done later in the process to avoid tons of stock sitting around for months.
Obviously prototypes are made first to test fitment, but thanks to the global component shortage some of those components were no longer available when it came time to manufacture the PCBs, and the available replacements were a slightly different size so the cases had to be reworked to accommodate.
The other option would have been to leave the cases untouched and wait till the component shortage was resolved, but that could take another year.
Reworking the cases for the different components is the most expensive option, but it gets everyone their boards sooner.
jaxxstatic — Today at 2:51 AM
Non-update:
PCBs incoming.
~1/4 of the way through re-finishing (sandblasting) bottoms. Material has been removed.
Will give an ETA when it can be anywhere close to accurate.
Just so everyone not on discord can see this. Just happened 9 minutes ago
Nah, he said the fitment issue wasn’t the PCB, the case was wrong
I don’t quite understand jaxx’s latest update. Material has to be removed from bottom portion of the case? I though Gondo in June 1st states there was no PCB fitment issues. Am I not understanding correctly? Seems like contradictory information.
The PCB and case were designed with a specific set of components in mind - the USB port, capacitors, resistors, sockets, LEDs, etc.
PCBs take a lot less time to do than the cases so they're normally done later in the process to avoid tons of stock sitting around for months.
Obviously prototypes are made first to test fitment, but thanks to the global component shortage some of those components were no longer available when it came time to manufacture the PCBs, and the available replacements were a slightly different size so the cases had to be reworked to accommodate.
The other option would have been to leave the cases untouched and wait till the component shortage was resolved, but that could take another year.
Reworking the cases for the different components is the most expensive option, but it gets everyone their boards sooner.
in that case, it doesn't make sense. he also said that the cases didn't fit existing Alice PCBs on the market. Which doesn't add up with him blaming the component shortage leading to different sized components. it's just to buy time to get the cases made probably.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113408.0
Looks like we found the rest of the tops from the boats.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113408.0
Looks like we found the rest of the tops from the boats.
jaxxstatic — Today at 2:51 AM
Non-update:
PCBs incoming.
~1/4 of the way through re-finishing (sandblasting) bottoms. Material has been removed.
Will give an ETA when it can be anywhere close to accurate.
Just so everyone not on discord can see this. Just happened 9 minutes ago
Nah, he said the fitment issue wasn’t the PCB, the case was wrong
I don’t quite understand jaxx’s latest update. Material has to be removed from bottom portion of the case? I though Gondo in June 1st states there was no PCB fitment issues. Am I not understanding correctly? Seems like contradictory information.
The PCB and case were designed with a specific set of components in mind - the USB port, capacitors, resistors, sockets, LEDs, etc.
PCBs take a lot less time to do than the cases so they're normally done later in the process to avoid tons of stock sitting around for months.
Obviously prototypes are made first to test fitment, but thanks to the global component shortage some of those components were no longer available when it came time to manufacture the PCBs, and the available replacements were a slightly different size so the cases had to be reworked to accommodate.
The other option would have been to leave the cases untouched and wait till the component shortage was resolved, but that could take another year.
Reworking the cases for the different components is the most expensive option, but it gets everyone their boards sooner.
in that case, it doesn't make sense. he also said that the cases didn't fit existing Alice PCBs on the market. Which doesn't add up with him blaming the component shortage leading to different sized components. it's just to buy time to get the cases made probably.
Yeah the facts don't add up to me and I'm really tired of feeling like I'm being lied to. I still remember reading updates and being excited for rukia to ship before Thanksgiving, and then Christmas 2020. But we find out this month that he never even ordered PCBs!
So that was a lie, right? Was every update we received last year just fake news? Did the boat rukias even exist?
I get that the pandemic caused delays. Delays are forgivable. But dishonesty towards customers is such a slap in the face.
Ok so, Gondo update again. ;D
I have thoroughly checked with suppliers and fabs and as far as they can tell, all components but the MCUs are well available and easy to find.
The MCU itself is the problem. Due to the shortage, getting your hands on hundreds of those has gotten pretty difficult. My idea was to check with suppliers if any variant (*) was better available or cheaper, but it turns out all variants are highly priced, yet available, so I just decided to leave the PCB as it is.
This has been communicated to Jaxx.
If you guys just wanted the update, that is it. The PCB files are "good"-to-go (or at least as "good" as good gets) as they are in terms of availability and possible cheapest price attainable.
If you want more detailed information, read below.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(*) Nerd time
As of right now, the ARM MCUs QMK can confirmedly use are STM32:
- F072
- F103
- F303
- L072
- F411
- F401
- G431
- G474
- L433
- L443
Each of these having a plethora of sub-versions (pin number, packaging, thermal range, military use etc), some of them having up to eight sub-versions -- as you can imagine this makes choosing and sourcing them in multiple suppliers a logistic nightmare, specially so in this pandemic. I've spent the past three weeks talking to vendors and suppliers digging some version that would be available and cheap. Mind you, some of these models are a straigh out overkill for a keyboard PCB (floating point unit and high-resolution ADC in a keyboard kek) but hey, if they work, they work. As it turns out, pretty much all of them are triple- to quadruple- the normal price, so I decided to go with the cheapest one (F072) which the PCB already uses and, albeit the heightened price, can be obtained by the fabs in the hundreds. Some of them also require additional components to work (for instance USB pull-up or termination resistors, external EEPROM, crystal) which should not be expensive per se but will make the PCBs a couple dollars more expensive due to a more complicated design, additional parts, additional solder joints and so on.
The problem now resides in Jaxx's capability to, well, prototype and make the PCBs. The big problem is that GB prices considered normal pricing for the PCB, but that situation has changed due to the higher price for the PCB components and services -- effectively making Jaxx work with an income deficit there which is completely out of my power unfortunately. I have done everything in my power, as the PCB designer, to make this go forward.
I will take questions in my Discord PMs. Please be kind.
Ok so, Gondo update again. ;D
I have thoroughly checked with suppliers and fabs and as far as they can tell, all components but the MCUs are well available and easy to find.
The MCU itself is the problem. Due to the shortage, getting your hands on hundreds of those has gotten pretty difficult. My idea was to check with suppliers if any variant (*) was better available or cheaper, but it turns out all variants are highly priced, yet available, so I just decided to leave the PCB as it is.
This has been communicated to Jaxx.
If you guys just wanted the update, that is it. The PCB files are "good"-to-go (or at least as "good" as good gets) as they are in terms of availability and possible cheapest price attainable.
If you want more detailed information, read below.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(*) Nerd time
As of right now, the ARM MCUs QMK can confirmedly use are STM32:
- F072
- F103
- F303
- L072
- F411
- F401
- G431
- G474
- L433
- L443
Each of these having a plethora of sub-versions (pin number, packaging, thermal range, military use etc), some of them having up to eight sub-versions -- as you can imagine this makes choosing and sourcing them in multiple suppliers a logistic nightmare, specially so in this pandemic. I've spent the past three weeks talking to vendors and suppliers digging some version that would be available and cheap. Mind you, some of these models are a straigh out overkill for a keyboard PCB (floating point unit and high-resolution ADC in a keyboard kek) but hey, if they work, they work. As it turns out, pretty much all of them are triple- to quadruple- the normal price, so I decided to go with the cheapest one (F072) which the PCB already uses and, albeit the heightened price, can be obtained by the fabs in the hundreds. Some of them also require additional components to work (for instance USB pull-up or termination resistors, external EEPROM, crystal) which should not be expensive per se but will make the PCBs a couple dollars more expensive due to a more complicated design, additional parts, additional solder joints and so on.
The problem now resides in Jaxx's capability to, well, prototype and make the PCBs. The big problem is that GB prices considered normal pricing for the PCB, but that situation has changed due to the higher price for the PCB components and services -- effectively making Jaxx work with an income deficit there which is completely out of my power unfortunately. I have done everything in my power, as the PCB designer, to make this go forward.
I will take questions in my Discord PMs. Please be kind.
Thank you for detailed update and efforts.
Are you saying Jaxx’s hasn’t picked or settled on a MCU? Is the MCU sélection the one causing him to have clearance issues?
Then again he has already stated that he has started to rework the bottom case by removing material. I would think this action started because he already decided which MCU to use as shaving off material without locking down a MCU seems risky.
As you mentioned all other components are readily available.
Ok so, Gondo update again. ;D
I have thoroughly checked with suppliers and fabs and as far as they can tell, all components but the MCUs are well available and easy to find.
The MCU itself is the problem. Due to the shortage, getting your hands on hundreds of those has gotten pretty difficult. My idea was to check with suppliers if any variant (*) was better available or cheaper, but it turns out all variants are highly priced, yet available, so I just decided to leave the PCB as it is.
This has been communicated to Jaxx.
If you guys just wanted the update, that is it. The PCB files are "good"-to-go (or at least as "good" as good gets) as they are in terms of availability and possible cheapest price attainable.
If you want more detailed information, read below.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(*) Nerd time
As of right now, the ARM MCUs QMK can confirmedly use are STM32:
- F072
- F103
- F303
- L072
- F411
- F401
- G431
- G474
- L433
- L443
Each of these having a plethora of sub-versions (pin number, packaging, thermal range, military use etc), some of them having up to eight sub-versions -- as you can imagine this makes choosing and sourcing them in multiple suppliers a logistic nightmare, specially so in this pandemic. I've spent the past three weeks talking to vendors and suppliers digging some version that would be available and cheap. Mind you, some of these models are a straigh out overkill for a keyboard PCB (floating point unit and high-resolution ADC in a keyboard kek) but hey, if they work, they work. As it turns out, pretty much all of them are triple- to quadruple- the normal price, so I decided to go with the cheapest one (F072) which the PCB already uses and, albeit the heightened price, can be obtained by the fabs in the hundreds. Some of them also require additional components to work (for instance USB pull-up or termination resistors, external EEPROM, crystal) which should not be expensive per se but will make the PCBs a couple dollars more expensive due to a more complicated design, additional parts, additional solder joints and so on.
The problem now resides in Jaxx's capability to, well, prototype and make the PCBs. The big problem is that GB prices considered normal pricing for the PCB, but that situation has changed due to the higher price for the PCB components and services -- effectively making Jaxx work with an income deficit there which is completely out of my power unfortunately. I have done everything in my power, as the PCB designer, to make this go forward.
I will take questions in my Discord PMs. Please be kind.
Thank you for detailed update and efforts.
Are you saying Jaxx’s hasn’t picked or settled on a MCU? Is the MCU sélection the one causing him to have clearance issues?
Then again he has already stated that he has started to rework the bottom case by removing material. I would think this action started because he already decided which MCU to use as shaving off material without locking down a MCU seems risky.
As you mentioned all other components are readily available.
Jaxx is not the one choosing components. I am; and as far as I have concluded, by talking to suppliers and fabs, the best option we have right now is use the components that the PCB currently already uses, according to criteria like price and availability. The MCU issue is not mechanical, it's about price and availability, so no, it's not the MCU causing clearance issues.
As others have stated in this thread, and this was confirmed by Jaxx himself, the clearance issue is not with my PCB, but with third-party Alice PCBs (like projectkeyboard's or mechlovin's); in other words, the case was not designed to support those. This lack of support presents itself as a clearance issue with thei PCB components. According to Jaxx, in the mechlovin's, that's a capacitor and, on PK's, the connector. How the man is addressing that is not something I can supervise or control because the PCB I was hired to design fits the original case design (in the 3D models at least). I can't comply to, or offer support for, products I have not designed.
The next step in the PCB design process os confirmation of working and fitment, which is only achievable through completely built prototypes (completely built as in with all components, switches and stabilizers) tested against the case and plate. Last we heard he is remanufacturing the case bottom.
Still quite confusing as to what PCB we are going to get? reworking the cases to get another PCB that we did not original agree to purchase. We purchased knowing that the PCB will be the Gondo PCB with its design and features. Dunno... it is what it is I guess..
The only thing I’m confused on now is that Jax’s last update said PCB’s incoming but this seems like they’re not yet confirmed
Still quite confusing as to what PCB we are going to get? reworking the cases to get another PCB that we did not original agree to purchase. We purchased knowing that the PCB will be the Gondo PCB with its design and features. Dunno... it is what it is I guess..The only thing I’m confused on now is that Jax’s last update said PCB’s incoming but this seems like they’re not yet confirmed
To be 100% transparent, the rates with which I get updates is the same as you guys and for some things I am just as in the dark. I have no idea what the incoming PCBs are but I can confirm no prototypes of my PCB were made yet, to my knowledge. Maybe that's what the incoming PCBs are?
Also as far as I am aware the PCBs shipping with cases are the ones I designed. It would be kind of a **** move if they were not because I have waived the upfront PCB design costs for Jaxx with the promise he'd pay all commission plus design fee after the GB
Thank you Gondo for bring some light to the matter and reduce some anxiety that some of might be experiencing. Appreciate it. I hope that you get paid and everything works out for all parties.
Thank you Gondo for bring some light to the matter and reduce some anxiety that some of might be experiencing. Appreciate it. I hope that you get paid and everything works out for all parties.
while yes thank you to gondo, this only increases anxiety. basically gondo is revealing jaxx's continuous lying. according to him 11 days ago 'PCBs are on the way'
Are there any other good Alice keyboard GBs out there? Might be easier at this point to eject out of this one and just start all over again with another GB.
Wish I could try the Type-K keyboard
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113408.0
Looks like we found the rest of the tops from the boats.
hello every1 se chat update 4 u is supply chain issue for jaxx. he saying supply chain tell him new things each day n on june 25 he will give update. oh today is 26. he also not say which supply chain sry
hello every1 se chat update 4 u is supply chain issue for jaxx. he saying supply chain tell him new things each day n on june 25 he will give update. oh today is 26. he also not say which supply chain sry
I had a stroke reading your comment
Hey guys, as much as I understand everyone's frustration, please keep it cordial and friendly. It does not do anyone any favours to direct hate/toxicity over other people, and it certainly won't help to get your keyboard faster.
hello every1 se chat update 4 u is supply chain issue for jaxx. he saying supply chain tell him new things each day n on june 25 he will give update. oh today is 26. he also not say which supply chain sry
I had a stroke reading your comment
Hello it is treeleaf
Let me weigh in with my useless opinion
1. While I did not join the Rukia group buy, I think it's fair enough to say Everyone does not like having group buys delayed.
2. The second worst thing to when possessing another's money (first is outright scamming) is lack of communication, especially if you haven't delivered on your promises to give them a product within a certain time frame.
I have had a bad case of depression in the last few months. I didn't want to get out of bed. I hated my life. I just wanted everything to be over.
... and I behaved similarly to the way Mr Jaxx is behaving now. When I started failing my classes, rather than solving my problems by working harder in school, my depression made it impossible to catch up. It's not that I didn't want to work, it's that I couldn't work.
--
Dearest Mr Jaxx: I hope you're feeling ok. Reach out to me. I'm here for you.
To everyone else: The keyboard didn't work out. Getting angry at him will not magically solve your problem. The best you can do is cooperate, wait, and hope for the best. [/color]
I don't know who tf you are but as you didn't join the group buy it is not your place to be a "nice guy".
People's money got scammed by a liar. This liar used our money to buy a cnc machine which is against our agreement on the group buy and keeps failing to deliver the product and locked the discord server, refused to refund, sponsor streamers, buy new boards in the same time.
This kind of behaviour is not only immoral and shameful but also illegal if this is in strict business.
People who participated in the groupbuy gave him trust and money. But the trust gone in lies.
And you just came out of no where and say something that you think is "positive", when you are not in the group buy. It is pretty easy for you and makes you feel good. Actually, it is pure selfish.
A large part of this hobbies run on trust. A lot of gbs delays. GMK caps take a year and a half to deliver. People are ok and considerate for that as we want good product and we believe that there will be. For jaxx, we keep being lied to and he can't even prove the board exists. People like him will poison the hobby and community we love.
So please shut up, shut up, shut up. If you still want to defend this liar, it is your business and you can dm him directly. Maybe he will sell you a refunded spot! Or, show him love by financial support, it will be far more supportive than your words.
hello every1 se chat update 4 u is supply chain issue for jaxx. he saying supply chain tell him new things each day n on june 25 he will give update. oh today is 26. he also not say which supply chain sry
I had a stroke reading your comment
hi sir i sry 4 that i will stop posting of se chat updates in here
Hello it is treeleaf
Let me weigh in with my useless opinion
1. While I did not join the Rukia group buy, I think it's fair enough to say Everyone does not like having group buys delayed.
2. The second worst thing to when possessing another's money (first is outright scamming) is lack of communication, especially if you haven't delivered on your promises to give them a product within a certain time frame.
I have had a bad case of depression in the last few months. I didn't want to get out of bed. I hated my life. I just wanted everything to be over.
... and I behaved similarly to the way Mr Jaxx is behaving now. When I started failing my classes, rather than solving my problems by working harder in school, my depression made it impossible to catch up. It's not that I didn't want to work, it's that I couldn't work.
--
Dearest Mr Jaxx: I hope you're feeling ok. Reach out to me. I'm here for you.
To everyone else: The keyboard didn't work out. Getting angry at him will not magically solve your problem. The best you can do is cooperate, wait, and hope for the best. [/color]
I don't know who tf you are but as you didn't join the group buy it is not your place to be a "nice guy".
People's money got scammed by a liar. This liar used our money to buy a cnc machine which is against our agreement on the group buy and keeps failing to deliver the product and locked the discord server, refused to refund, sponsor streamers, buy new boards in the same time.
This kind of behaviour is not only immoral and shameful but also illegal if this is in strict business.
People who participated in the groupbuy gave him trust and money. But the trust gone in lies.
And you just came out of no where and say something that you think is "positive", when you are not in the group buy. It is pretty easy for you and makes you feel good. Actually, it is pure selfish.
A large part of this hobbies run on trust. A lot of gbs delays. GMK caps take a year and a half to deliver. People are ok and considerate for that as we want good product and we believe that there will be. For jaxx, we keep being lied to and he can't even prove the board exists. People like him will poison the hobby and community we love.
So please shut up, shut up, shut up. If you still want to defend this liar, it is your business and you can dm him directly. Maybe he will sell you a refunded spot! Or, show him love by financial support, it will be far more supportive than your words.
I don't know who tf you are but as you didn't join the group buy it is not your place to be a "nice guy".
People's money got scammed by a liar. This liar used our money to buy a cnc machine which is against our agreement on the group buy and keeps failing to deliver the product and locked the discord server, refused to refund, sponsor streamers, buy new boards in the same time.
This kind of behaviour is not only immoral and shameful but also illegal if this is in strict business.
People who participated in the groupbuy gave him trust and money. But the trust gone in lies.
And you just came out of no where and say something that you think is "positive", when you are not in the group buy. It is pretty easy for you and makes you feel good. Actually, it is pure selfish.
A large part of this hobbies run on trust. A lot of gbs delays. GMK caps take a year and a half to deliver. People are ok and considerate for that as we want good product and we believe that there will be. For jaxx, we keep being lied to and he can't even prove the board exists. People like him will poison the hobby and community we love.
So please shut up, shut up, shut up. If you still want to defend this liar, it is your business and you can dm him directly. Maybe he will sell you a refunded spot! Or, show him love by financial support, it will be far more supportive than your words.
Hey mate I get your anger! You feel duped and rightly so. But attacking other people here won´t help. It wont make Jaxx magically start being a better person.
It sucks seeing someone that was so respected in the Keyboard hobby do something like this. It made me re-evaluate if I was willing to get into Groupbuys for a board with a private person that already shows signs of not communicating enough.
Now none of this is helpful for you and nothing will make this easier. You lost a god damned amount of money.
Either you guys all wait to see if he ever ships or people start exploring options of how to get jaxx to pay back money. Cause right now fact is....he wont speak to you guys.
Jaxx depression aka Ill preparation for this GB is still no excuse for his general lack of honesty and total dismissal of non se GB'ers. These are character flaws at this point.
I don't know who you are but I understand your frustration. Your complaints are valid and have already been expressed by numerous other people.
But that is not how you speak to any person, especially someone like treeleaf. Not only has he been going through a bout of depression, but he was simply trying to be positive in a--to put it bluntly--crappy gb. You clearly have no idea who he is or what he's been through, so I suggest you take your own advice.
3 posts in over a year and this is the first one on this thread, even since everything happened. AND it's to attack someone who's comment had no reason to attract any hostility.
I think people have a fair right to be irritated by GB non-participants who want to jump in and pop out their two cents' worth to try and convince everyone to get along and stop being big evil meanies. There is zero value-add happening here.
I think people have a fair right to be irritated by GB non-participants who want to jump in and pop out their two cents' worth to try and convince everyone to get along and stop being big evil meanies. There is zero value-add happening here.
100% a right to be irritated, but no right whatsoever to insult people. Everyone is frustrated, but there is literally nothing to be gained by flaming and insulting people.
Just dropping by to cheer on Jaxx. Looking forward to getting this whenever it’s ready.
after DMing Jaxx a couple times for some updates, I received this:
jaxxstatic — Today at 5:22 PM
Hi. I am waiting on Elecrow for the PCBs as of now, but the Rukia case adjustments were successful. Things should fit no problem now, even with softer builds. I paid for rush order, but that didn't really speed things up at all. The explanation right now that they've given is that there are shortages.
I apologize for the lack of updates, especially recently. I'm trying to either get out of government contracts or come up with a partition that allows for better separation from keyboard-related things. In that regard, things have been flip-flopping, so it's hard to give an outlook on future things.
BUT for Rukia round 2, as soon as the PCBs get here, I hope to finish things out quickly. Thank you for being so patient.
Dot — Today at 5:25 PM
Any chance we can get some photos of the alu tops? I understand you have issues with scif for pictures of large quantity items, but I would love to see the alu top colors
jaxxstatic — Today at 5:27 PM
working on that. I really want to share how they came out, especially after the nightmare of making it happen and how many iterations it took.
Hello it is treeleaf
Let me weigh in with my useless opinion
1. While I did not join the Rukia group buy, I think it's fair enough to say Everyone does not like having group buys delayed.
2. The second worst thing to when possessing another's money (first is outright scamming) is lack of communication, especially if you haven't delivered on your promises to give them a product within a certain time frame.
I have had a bad case of depression in the last few months. I didn't want to get out of bed. I hated my life. I just wanted everything to be over.
... and I behaved similarly to the way Mr Jaxx is behaving now. When I started failing my classes, rather than solving my problems by working harder in school, my depression made it impossible to catch up. It's not that I didn't want to work, it's that I couldn't work.
--
Dearest Mr Jaxx: I hope you're feeling ok. Reach out to me. I'm here for you.
To everyone else: The keyboard didn't work out. Getting angry at him will not magically solve your problem. The best you can do is cooperate, wait, and hope for the best. [/color]
I don't know who tf you are but as you didn't join the group buy it is not your place to be a "nice guy".
People's money got scammed by a liar. This liar used our money to buy a cnc machine which is against our agreement on the group buy and keeps failing to deliver the product and locked the discord server, refused to refund, sponsor streamers, buy new boards in the same time.
This kind of behaviour is not only immoral and shameful but also illegal if this is in strict business.
People who participated in the groupbuy gave him trust and money. But the trust gone in lies.
And you just came out of no where and say something that you think is "positive", when you are not in the group buy. It is pretty easy for you and makes you feel good. Actually, it is pure selfish.
A large part of this hobbies run on trust. A lot of gbs delays. GMK caps take a year and a half to deliver. People are ok and considerate for that as we want good product and we believe that there will be. For jaxx, we keep being lied to and he can't even prove the board exists. People like him will poison the hobby and community we love.
So please shut up, shut up, shut up. If you still want to defend this liar, it is your business and you can dm him directly. Maybe he will sell you a refunded spot! Or, show him love by financial support, it will be far more supportive than your words.
I don't know who you are but I understand your frustration. Your complaints are valid and have already been expressed by numerous other people.
But that is not how you speak to any person, especially someone like treeleaf. Not only has he been going through a bout of depression, but he was simply trying to be positive in a--to put it bluntly--crappy gb. You clearly have no idea who he is or what he's been through, so I suggest you take your own advice.
3 posts in over a year and this is the first one on this thread, even since everything happened. AND it's to attack someone who's comment had no reason to attract any hostility.
when do you think someone other then Jax's will give use a update
I wish the GB runner provided more comprehensive pictures of the boards in-possession, because I don't believe they exist. I'm speculating here...but this is my feeling based on mis-deadlines, poor communication, and lack of photo evidence.
Ok, I didn't want to do this but I have no choice
I tried contacting Jaxx but he has not responded, so here it goes:
To my knowledge, PCB prototypes were not received. Jaxx does not respond to my Discord DMs so if anyone here has access to him please tell him not to make a large PCB order without proper prototyping first, that will seriously jeopardize the GB more than it already is.
This is a nuclear-level problem, if he orders PCBs with no protos it could lead to a massive disaster, as in, if the project has a flaw that should have been caught up during prototype testing, the entire batch of PCBs will need to be scrapped
I can't stress this enough, absolutely do not order large quantities of the PCBs without testing
I am not ok'ing this PCB batch without prototypes and I am not supplying firmware until I see PCBs tested before mass manufacture
I don't care how many angry DMs I get, I don't care for the money I am supposed to receive, all I care is for the quality of the stuff I put out
Agreed. His rep is in the ****ter. Doesn't change the fact that he IS a good person. Then again, given how much **** I've gotten for just being a public figure in this buy, I don't really blame him for wanting to keep his head down...But that doesn't excuse the lack of updates or just general involvment in translating the status of the buy.
Ok, I didn't want to do this but I have no choice
I tried contacting Jaxx but he has not responded, so here it goes:
To my knowledge, PCB prototypes were not received. Jaxx does not respond to my Discord DMs so if anyone here has access to him please tell him not to make a large PCB order without proper prototyping first, that will seriously jeopardize the GB more than it already is.
This is a nuclear-level problem, if he orders PCBs with no protos it could lead to a massive disaster, as in, if the project has a flaw that should have been caught up during prototype testing, the entire batch of PCBs will need to be scrapped
I can't stress this enough, absolutely do not order large quantities of the PCBs without testing
I am not ok'ing this PCB batch without prototypes and I am not supplying firmware until I see PCBs tested before mass manufacture
I don't care how many angry DMs I get, I don't care for the money I am supposed to receive, all I care is for the quality of the stuff I put out
Ok, I didn't want to do this but I have no choice
I tried contacting Jaxx but he has not responded, so here it goes:
To my knowledge, PCB prototypes were not received. Jaxx does not respond to my Discord DMs so if anyone here has access to him please tell him not to make a large PCB order without proper prototyping first, that will seriously jeopardize the GB more than it already is.
This is a nuclear-level problem, if he orders PCBs with no protos it could lead to a massive disaster, as in, if the project has a flaw that should have been caught up during prototype testing, the entire batch of PCBs will need to be scrapped
I can't stress this enough, absolutely do not order large quantities of the PCBs without testing
I am not ok'ing this PCB batch without prototypes and I am not supplying firmware until I see PCBs tested before mass manufacture
I don't care how many angry DMs I get, I don't care for the money I am supposed to receive, all I care is for the quality of the stuff I put out
Ok, I didn't want to do this but I have no choice[attachimg=1]
I tried contacting Jaxx but he has not responded, so here it goes:
To my knowledge, PCB prototypes were not received. Jaxx does not respond to my Discord DMs so if anyone here has access to him please tell him not to make a large PCB order without proper prototyping first, that will seriously jeopardize the GB more than it already is.
This is a nuclear-level problem, if he orders PCBs with no protos it could lead to a massive disaster, as in, if the project has a flaw that should have been caught up during prototype testing, the entire batch of PCBs will need to be scrapped
I can't stress this enough, absolutely do not order large quantities of the PCBs without testing
I am not ok'ing this PCB batch without prototypes and I am not supplying firmware until I see PCBs tested before mass manufacture
I don't care how many angry DMs I get, I don't care for the money I am supposed to receive, all I care is for the quality of the stuff I put out
Ok, I didn't want to do this but I have no choice
I tried contacting Jaxx but he has not responded, so here it goes:
To my knowledge, PCB prototypes were not received. Jaxx does not respond to my Discord DMs so if anyone here has access to him please tell him not to make a large PCB order without proper prototyping first, that will seriously jeopardize the GB more than it already is.
This is a nuclear-level problem, if he orders PCBs with no protos it could lead to a massive disaster, as in, if the project has a flaw that should have been caught up during prototype testing, the entire batch of PCBs will need to be scrapped
I can't stress this enough, absolutely do not order large quantities of the PCBs without testing
I am not ok'ing this PCB batch without prototypes and I am not supplying firmware until I see PCBs tested before mass manufacture
I don't care how many angry DMs I get, I don't care for the money I am supposed to receive, all I care is for the quality of the stuff I put out
So did Jaxx just yolo those PCBs?
So did Jaxx just yolo those PCBs?
I have no idea. I am officially washing my hands here. I hate to do this publically but no other choice was given to me.
I have zero communication, I've been ghosted for weeks and all I am doing is trying to offer help and resolution to this PCB issue. Even without any payment whatsoever I have designed a PCB, gotten threats and poop DMs, and even then I have gone out of my way staying up late night to talk to asian and european distributors to have all of this PCB conundrum solved, but as it turns out despite my best efforts I can't help someone that seemingly does not want help.
I will only proceed with any support if I am personally contacted by Jaxx, with proper prototypes and some some guarantee that I will get paid for the 50+ hours I have put into this PCB.
I am so sorry to let everyone down but I am under a lot of stress, specially because of this semiconductor shortage. Rukia is not the only project I am involved in and, albeit being very unprofessional myself some times, this is completely unacceptable.
So did Jaxx just yolo those PCBs?
I have no idea. I am officially washing my hands here. I hate to do this publically but no other choice was given to me.
I have zero communication, I've been ghosted for weeks and all I am doing is trying to offer help and resolution to this PCB issue. Even without any payment whatsoever I have designed a PCB, gotten threats and poop DMs, and even then I have gone out of my way staying up late night to talk to asian and european distributors to have all of this PCB conundrum solved, but as it turns out despite my best efforts I can't help someone that seemingly does not want help.
I will only proceed with any support if I am personally contacted by Jaxx, with proper prototypes and some some guarantee that I will get paid for the 50+ hours I have put into this PCB.
I am so sorry to let everyone down but I am under a lot of stress, specially because of this semiconductor shortage. Rukia is not the only project I am involved in and, albeit being very unprofessional myself some times, this is completely unacceptable.
As always, thank you so much for all your work. I'm sorry to see you in yet another position where people are being ****ty to you for absolutely no reason. Hopefully Jaxx gets into contact and you can get paid. Unfortunately it seems like "don't harass people" is too hard a concept for some people to ever comprehend.
As always, thank you so much for all your work. I'm sorry to see you in yet another position where people are being ****ty to you for absolutely no reason. Hopefully Jaxx gets into contact and you can get paid. Unfortunately it seems like "don't harass people" is too hard a concept for some people to ever comprehend.
Ship the boards now. There are other alice style PCBs that should fit in the board. I told Jaxx this but he tiptoed around that statement with the whole "rush order" PCB story. There is absolutely NO REASON to hold on to the boards if they are done. I told him that I'd be willing to pay for PCB shipping at a later date when they are complete. But if the PCBs are going to delay this another 3+ months, there is NO WAY he can afford to just sit on the boards. Ya'll need to hit him up and demand he ship out the Rukia now. He claims they are complete.
Ship the boards now. There are other alice style PCBs that should fit in the board. I told Jaxx this but he tiptoed around that statement with the whole "rush order" PCB story. There is absolutely NO REASON to hold on to the boards if they are done. I told him that I'd be willing to pay for PCB shipping at a later date when they are complete. But if the PCBs are going to delay this another 3+ months, there is NO WAY he can afford to just sit on the boards. Ya'll need to hit him up and demand he ship out the Rukia now. He claims they are complete.
Ok so, news: I've been contacted by Jaxx. The "rush order" are in fact the prototypes, we are back on track for delivery. We are working on getting them ASAP. I'll keep you guys informed if I have anything better to update. You will know the status of prototypes.
So I think what you're all saying, if I may sum up, is that I picked a somewhat unfortunate group buy for my very first keyboard GB. :)) :eek:
So I think what you're all saying, if I may sum up, is that I picked a somewhat unfortunate group buy for my very first keyboard GB. :)) :eek:
This was my first GB, too. I had so much hope because the first round of Rukia had some great reviews. Popular content creators like Taeha and Apiary praised the board. So unfortunate to see the GB go downhill. I recently got a response from Jaxx, which confused me. I thought the boards were supposed to be finished, but he said:
"I’m refinishing boards rn. It takes a while since I have to cover the portions that were already finished and do it incrementally to match the original texture."
He gave me this response about 2 hours ago...
Ok so, news: I've been contacted by Jaxx. The "rush order" are in fact the prototypes, we are back on track for delivery. We are working on getting them ASAP. I'll keep you guys informed if I have anything better to update. You will know the status of prototypes.
Gondo, Have you seen the R2 boards? Curious. I am requesting a timestamped picture of them from Jaxx as well as a form to request shipping now and PCB later. I don't expect either to happen.
On the 1st he told me that modifications to the boards was successful (ie taking out inside material for the PCBs to fit). I took that as he is done. He is just harping on the PCB delay now. IMO, the PCBs should have been completed months ago. How the hell have you not had the PCBs start production last year when the GB kicked off? Even if they were started when he began making the boards on his own, they should be done. This whole GB stinks and wreaks of lies and excuses. I have requested timestamped pictures of the boards to be provided as proof they exist. I have also requested a form be provided to the GB participants with the choice to have the boards shipped now and PCBs later. My dad used to say, "wish in one hand and **** in the other, see which happens first."
Hmm, well I no longer feel as bad about missing this GB.
Once they start shipping will there be extras, for the slow people that missed the GB?
Will there be an option to just buy the case? (I already have a top mounted PCB for an Alice)
Hmm, well I no longer feel as bad about missing this GB.
Once they start shipping will there be extras, for the slow people that missed the GB?
Will there be an option to just buy the case? (I already have a top mounted PCB for an Alice)
We don’t even know if we’re getting these, let alone how the extras will be sold :/
LMAO! Bro, the original GB joiners haven't even received their board yet, not even seen prototypes! You are hoping to join in on extras of a keyboard that may not even exist! LOL
LMAO! Bro, the original GB joiners haven't even received their board yet, not even seen prototypes! You are hoping to join in on extras of a keyboard that may not even exist! LOL
:'(
My crippling keeb addiction has me itching for an acrylic Alice.
Someone above mentioned that the cases exist, and that they are delayed on the PCB. Since I already have a PCB and FR4 plate, I am really just looking for a case at this point.
But ya, its probably not gonna happen.
Oopse, I meant Polycarbonate. I have a stacked acrylic board, and its fine, but not as nice as some of the poly boards I've seen.
On top of everything else, these aren't acrylic...
So now all we want is board that PCbs won’t fit in. This is sad AFSupposedly the refinishing is all done, but who knows at this point
I can't really keep up, but wasn't the refinishing performed so that it'll fit the new PCB design that uses the chips that are more readily available? If so, wouldn't it render the board useless as it'd be incompatible with the existing Alice-style PCBs on the market?So now all we want is board that PCbs won’t fit in. This is sad AFSupposedly the refinishing is all done, but who knows at this point
No apparently it was refinished to accommodate support for 3rd party pcbs.This was my understanding.
6 pages since I’ve checked this and not a single picture of an aluminum top, finished rukias, PCBs…
Maybe I missed this but Jaxx did say in the discord on 5/31 that he had finished and shipped some “kits” out without PCBs. Has anyone posted any pictures in any of the various keyboard communities?
I would LOVE it if someone could show us their built r2 rukia. I’m a bit peeved that instead of showing the discord those finished kits or how they were packaged or a stack of them going out or anything at all to indicate that they actually exist and went out…they were just shipped.
I say I might’ve missed it because it was almost 2 months ago but hopefully that means they ended up in the hands of some awesome community members that are willing to show their finished builds! And maybe they even have one or more of those elusive aluminum tops.
Only ~4 months until our 1st estimated shipping date anniversary 🥰
6 pages since I’ve checked this and not a single picture of an aluminum top, finished rukias, PCBs…
Maybe I missed this but Jaxx did say in the discord on 5/31 that he had finished and shipped some “kits” out without PCBs. Has anyone posted any pictures in any of the various keyboard communities?
I would LOVE it if someone could show us their built r2 rukia. I’m a bit peeved that instead of showing the discord those finished kits or how they were packaged or a stack of them going out or anything at all to indicate that they actually exist and went out…they were just shipped.
I say I might’ve missed it because it was almost 2 months ago but hopefully that means they ended up in the hands of some awesome community members that are willing to show their finished builds! And maybe they even have one or more of those elusive aluminum tops.
Only ~4 months until our 1st estimated shipping date anniversary 🥰
Nobody has seen any picture of the board. Not even Gondo, his collaborator. And yet people are still hopeful they exist. This is sad.
6 pages since I’ve checked this and not a single picture of an aluminum top, finished rukias, PCBs…
Maybe I missed this but Jaxx did say in the discord on 5/31 that he had finished and shipped some “kits” out without PCBs. Has anyone posted any pictures in any of the various keyboard communities?
I would LOVE it if someone could show us their built r2 rukia. I’m a bit peeved that instead of showing the discord those finished kits or how they were packaged or a stack of them going out or anything at all to indicate that they actually exist and went out…they were just shipped.
I say I might’ve missed it because it was almost 2 months ago but hopefully that means they ended up in the hands of some awesome community members that are willing to show their finished builds! And maybe they even have one or more of those elusive aluminum tops.
Only ~4 months until our 1st estimated shipping date anniversary 🥰
Nobody has seen any picture of the board. Not even Gondo, his collaborator. And yet people are still hopeful they exist. This is sad.
That's the weird thing. Boards were shipped without PCBs. To who?? I didn't get the option to get my board without a pcb. Is this an SE GB only kind of thing?
I went back and read the discord #updates thread. Here's a summary:
- in November 2020, he said that shipping from the overseas manu is coming in batches. The first batch is 150 boards. Boards should ship to him first week of December, and then get packed and shipped out to customers in the following week.
- in December 2020, he said that the first batch was supposed to arrive at the beginning of December. It hasn't arrived and it's because it was shipped via boat. Also he has the means to make rukias in-house now. He said he can probably produce the first batch within 4 weeks. (estimated. not guaranteed) He also started raffling refunded spots and pointed out that it's unusual for GB runners to even offer refunds.
- We wait for boat boards for months
- in March 2021, he says that an undisclosed number of boards were damaged likely due to box cutters. The 300 boards will be shipped to him. 300? not 150? Which batch is this? The first batch is 150 boards and was on the boat we were waiting for since November. Were there more than one batch on this boat? How many batches are there in total from the overseas manu? How many boats were they shipped on? Can we see the boards?
- In April 2021, Kimchijodyboi says no refunds. he also says "CHOTTO MATTE IM NOT PISSED KEKW SPAIN WITHOUT THE A" yeah ok idk what that means. Also, I'm pissed. It's been a year since the GB started and I have nothing but a $400 hole in my wallet.
- In May 2021, he shows a side by side of his in-house produced rukia vs a round 1 rukia. he shows some pictures of scuffed rukias and gives examples of things he can fix vs things he can't fix. He posts a shaky cam video of himself which tells us literally nothing lol, as well as pictures of end mills, and a CNC machine, and white boxes... It is not explicitly stated that the scuffed rukias are boat rukias. He only says that they are damaged.
- He then updates that some kits were shipped out but without PCBs. Again, to who? I wasn't informed about this and didn't get this choice. He then talks about the chip shortage. My dude you didn't order the PCBs last year. I joined GBs after Rukia sales ended that have delivered. They didn't have issues with the chip shortage for their PCBs.
So Rukia R2 is going to be a mix of in-house produced boards, and "boat boards" from an overseas manufacturer that he is able to refinish after being "damaged by box cutters". All of these boards are currently being modified so that PCBs can fit because chip shortage means PCBs need different components than what was in the original design from last year. Too bad he didn't order PCBs last year when this wasn't an issue... even though he said he'd be shipping full kits in December 2020. It's kinda weird how he said that before ordering PCBs. It's kinda weird how the numbers for the boat boards don't add up. first batch is 150 units on a boat for months and then (undisclosed number) boards are damaged but all 300 of them are going to be inspected and refinished. Somehow he also has the means for producing rukias in-house now... but it's in a SCIF and he can't take pictures. But where are the boat rukias? Surely he could have taken photos of them. There are allegedly 150 or 300 of them.
Anyway I don't believe any of the stuff he says anymore and I want to know what jaxx did with my money.
6 pages since I’ve checked this and not a single picture of an aluminum top, finished rukias, PCBs…
Maybe I missed this but Jaxx did say in the discord on 5/31 that he had finished and shipped some “kits” out without PCBs. Has anyone posted any pictures in any of the various keyboard communities?
I would LOVE it if someone could show us their built r2 rukia. I’m a bit peeved that instead of showing the discord those finished kits or how they were packaged or a stack of them going out or anything at all to indicate that they actually exist and went out…they were just shipped.
I say I might’ve missed it because it was almost 2 months ago but hopefully that means they ended up in the hands of some awesome community members that are willing to show their finished builds! And maybe they even have one or more of those elusive aluminum tops.
Only ~4 months until our 1st estimated shipping date anniversary
Nobody has seen any picture of the board. Not even Gondo, his collaborator. And yet people are still hopeful they exist. This is sad.
That's the weird thing. Boards were shipped without PCBs. To who?? I didn't get the option to get my board without a pcb. Is this an SE GB only kind of thing?
I went back and read the discord #updates thread. Here's a summary:
- in November 2020, he said that shipping from the overseas manu is coming in batches. The first batch is 150 boards. Boards should ship to him first week of December, and then get packed and shipped out to customers in the following week.
- in December 2020, he said that the first batch was supposed to arrive at the beginning of December. It hasn't arrived and it's because it was shipped via boat. Also he has the means to make rukias in-house now. He said he can probably produce the first batch within 4 weeks. (estimated. not guaranteed) He also started raffling refunded spots and pointed out that it's unusual for GB runners to even offer refunds.
- We wait for boat boards for months
- in March 2021, he says that an undisclosed number of boards were damaged likely due to box cutters. The 300 boards will be shipped to him. 300? not 150? Which batch is this? The first batch is 150 boards and was on the boat we were waiting for since November. Were there more than one batch on this boat? How many batches are there in total from the overseas manu? How many boats were they shipped on? Can we see the boards?
- In April 2021, Kimchijodyboi says no refunds. he also says "CHOTTO MATTE IM NOT PISSED KEKW SPAIN WITHOUT THE A" yeah ok idk what that means. Also, I'm pissed. It's been a year since the GB started and I have nothing but a $400 hole in my wallet.
- In May 2021, he shows a side by side of his in-house produced rukia vs a round 1 rukia. he shows some pictures of scuffed rukias and gives examples of things he can fix vs things he can't fix. He posts a shaky cam video of himself which tells us literally nothing lol, as well as pictures of end mills, and a CNC machine, and white boxes... It is not explicitly stated that the scuffed rukias are boat rukias. He only says that they are damaged.
- He then updates that some kits were shipped out but without PCBs. Again, to who? I wasn't informed about this and didn't get this choice. He then talks about the chip shortage. My dude you didn't order the PCBs last year. I joined GBs after Rukia sales ended that have delivered. They didn't have issues with the chip shortage for their PCBs.
So Rukia R2 is going to be a mix of in-house produced boards, and "boat boards" from an overseas manufacturer that he is able to refinish after being "damaged by box cutters". All of these boards are currently being modified so that PCBs can fit because chip shortage means PCBs need different components than what was in the original design from last year. Too bad he didn't order PCBs last year when this wasn't an issue... even though he said he'd be shipping full kits in December 2020. It's kinda weird how he said that before ordering PCBs. It's kinda weird how the numbers for the boat boards don't add up. first batch is 150 units on a boat for months and then (undisclosed number) boards are damaged but all 300 of them are going to be inspected and refinished. Somehow he also has the means for producing rukias in-house now... but it's in a SCIF and he can't take pictures. But where are the boat rukias? Surely he could have taken photos of them. There are allegedly 150 or 300 of them.
Anyway I don't believe any of the stuff he says anymore and I want to know what jaxx did with my money.
Correction: the part about the PCB is wrong. It fits the PCB just fine, even with new components. The PCB is not the issue. The problem is that the case bottom does not fit third-party PCBs.
"There is a shortage on components amongst different PCB manufacturers, so I've been busy consolidating sources for parts and figuring out assembly that falls within budget.
Tried to see if assembling in-house was possible, but it takes too long
Replacement components are taller as well. Also tested newer revisions of available Alice-compatible PCBs, and they have the same issue--
so I have to remove about a 1mm of space in the bottom case under the PCB"
I can’t seem to wrap my head around this explanation. Don’t switch pins usually extend past any components on a PCB? Is depth the problem or is it a footprint issue?6 pages since I’ve checked this and not a single picture of an aluminum top, finished rukias, PCBs…
Maybe I missed this but Jaxx did say in the discord on 5/31 that he had finished and shipped some “kits” out without PCBs. Has anyone posted any pictures in any of the various keyboard communities?
I would LOVE it if someone could show us their built r2 rukia. I’m a bit peeved that instead of showing the discord those finished kits or how they were packaged or a stack of them going out or anything at all to indicate that they actually exist and went out…they were just shipped.
I say I might’ve missed it because it was almost 2 months ago but hopefully that means they ended up in the hands of some awesome community members that are willing to show their finished builds! And maybe they even have one or more of those elusive aluminum tops.
Only ~4 months until our 1st estimated shipping date anniversary
Nobody has seen any picture of the board. Not even Gondo, his collaborator. And yet people are still hopeful they exist. This is sad.
That's the weird thing. Boards were shipped without PCBs. To who?? I didn't get the option to get my board without a pcb. Is this an SE GB only kind of thing?
I went back and read the discord #updates thread. Here's a summary:
- in November 2020, he said that shipping from the overseas manu is coming in batches. The first batch is 150 boards. Boards should ship to him first week of December, and then get packed and shipped out to customers in the following week.
- in December 2020, he said that the first batch was supposed to arrive at the beginning of December. It hasn't arrived and it's because it was shipped via boat. Also he has the means to make rukias in-house now. He said he can probably produce the first batch within 4 weeks. (estimated. not guaranteed) He also started raffling refunded spots and pointed out that it's unusual for GB runners to even offer refunds.
- We wait for boat boards for months
- in March 2021, he says that an undisclosed number of boards were damaged likely due to box cutters. The 300 boards will be shipped to him. 300? not 150? Which batch is this? The first batch is 150 boards and was on the boat we were waiting for since November. Were there more than one batch on this boat? How many batches are there in total from the overseas manu? How many boats were they shipped on? Can we see the boards?
- In April 2021, Kimchijodyboi says no refunds. he also says "CHOTTO MATTE IM NOT PISSED KEKW SPAIN WITHOUT THE A" yeah ok idk what that means. Also, I'm pissed. It's been a year since the GB started and I have nothing but a $400 hole in my wallet.
- In May 2021, he shows a side by side of his in-house produced rukia vs a round 1 rukia. he shows some pictures of scuffed rukias and gives examples of things he can fix vs things he can't fix. He posts a shaky cam video of himself which tells us literally nothing lol, as well as pictures of end mills, and a CNC machine, and white boxes... It is not explicitly stated that the scuffed rukias are boat rukias. He only says that they are damaged.
- He then updates that some kits were shipped out but without PCBs. Again, to who? I wasn't informed about this and didn't get this choice. He then talks about the chip shortage. My dude you didn't order the PCBs last year. I joined GBs after Rukia sales ended that have delivered. They didn't have issues with the chip shortage for their PCBs.
So Rukia R2 is going to be a mix of in-house produced boards, and "boat boards" from an overseas manufacturer that he is able to refinish after being "damaged by box cutters". All of these boards are currently being modified so that PCBs can fit because chip shortage means PCBs need different components than what was in the original design from last year. Too bad he didn't order PCBs last year when this wasn't an issue... even though he said he'd be shipping full kits in December 2020. It's kinda weird how he said that before ordering PCBs. It's kinda weird how the numbers for the boat boards don't add up. first batch is 150 units on a boat for months and then (undisclosed number) boards are damaged but all 300 of them are going to be inspected and refinished. Somehow he also has the means for producing rukias in-house now... but it's in a SCIF and he can't take pictures. But where are the boat rukias? Surely he could have taken photos of them. There are allegedly 150 or 300 of them.
Anyway I don't believe any of the stuff he says anymore and I want to know what jaxx did with my money.
Correction: the part about the PCB is wrong. It fits the PCB just fine, even with new components. The PCB is not the issue. The problem is that the case bottom does not fit third-party PCBs.
I can’t seem to wrap my head around this explanation. Don’t switch pins usually extend past any components on a PCB? Is depth the problem or is it a footprint issue?
6 pages since I’ve checked this and not a single picture of an aluminum top, finished rukias, PCBs…
Maybe I missed this but Jaxx did say in the discord on 5/31 that he had finished and shipped some “kits” out without PCBs. Has anyone posted any pictures in any of the various keyboard communities?
I would LOVE it if someone could show us their built r2 rukia. I’m a bit peeved that instead of showing the discord those finished kits or how they were packaged or a stack of them going out or anything at all to indicate that they actually exist and went out…they were just shipped.
I say I might’ve missed it because it was almost 2 months ago but hopefully that means they ended up in the hands of some awesome community members that are willing to show their finished builds! And maybe they even have one or more of those elusive aluminum tops.
Only ~4 months until our 1st estimated shipping date anniversary 🥰
Nobody has seen any picture of the board. Not even Gondo, his collaborator. And yet people are still hopeful they exist. This is sad.
That's the weird thing. Boards were shipped without PCBs. To who?? I didn't get the option to get my board without a pcb. Is this an SE GB only kind of thing?
I went back and read the discord #updates thread. Here's a summary:
- in November 2020, he said that shipping from the overseas manu is coming in batches. The first batch is 150 boards. Boards should ship to him first week of December, and then get packed and shipped out to customers in the following week.
- in December 2020, he said that the first batch was supposed to arrive at the beginning of December. It hasn't arrived and it's because it was shipped via boat. Also he has the means to make rukias in-house now. He said he can probably produce the first batch within 4 weeks. (estimated. not guaranteed) He also started raffling refunded spots and pointed out that it's unusual for GB runners to even offer refunds.
- We wait for boat boards for months
- in March 2021, he says that an undisclosed number of boards were damaged likely due to box cutters. The 300 boards will be shipped to him. 300? not 150? Which batch is this? The first batch is 150 boards and was on the boat we were waiting for since November. Were there more than one batch on this boat? How many batches are there in total from the overseas manu? How many boats were they shipped on? Can we see the boards?
- In April 2021, Kimchijodyboi says no refunds. he also says "CHOTTO MATTE IM NOT PISSED KEKW SPAIN WITHOUT THE A" yeah ok idk what that means. Also, I'm pissed. It's been a year since the GB started and I have nothing but a $400 hole in my wallet.
- In May 2021, he shows a side by side of his in-house produced rukia vs a round 1 rukia. he shows some pictures of scuffed rukias and gives examples of things he can fix vs things he can't fix. He posts a shaky cam video of himself which tells us literally nothing lol, as well as pictures of end mills, and a CNC machine, and white boxes... It is not explicitly stated that the scuffed rukias are boat rukias. He only says that they are damaged.
- He then updates that some kits were shipped out but without PCBs. Again, to who? I wasn't informed about this and didn't get this choice. He then talks about the chip shortage. My dude you didn't order the PCBs last year. I joined GBs after Rukia sales ended that have delivered. They didn't have issues with the chip shortage for their PCBs.
So Rukia R2 is going to be a mix of in-house produced boards, and "boat boards" from an overseas manufacturer that he is able to refinish after being "damaged by box cutters". All of these boards are currently being modified so that PCBs can fit because chip shortage means PCBs need different components than what was in the original design from last year. Too bad he didn't order PCBs last year when this wasn't an issue... even though he said he'd be shipping full kits in December 2020. It's kinda weird how he said that before ordering PCBs. It's kinda weird how the numbers for the boat boards don't add up. first batch is 150 units on a boat for months and then (undisclosed number) boards are damaged but all 300 of them are going to be inspected and refinished. Somehow he also has the means for producing rukias in-house now... but it's in a SCIF and he can't take pictures. But where are the boat rukias? Surely he could have taken photos of them. There are allegedly 150 or 300 of them.
Anyway I don't believe any of the stuff he says anymore and I want to know what jaxx did with my money.
I can’t seem to wrap my head around this explanation. Don’t switch pins usually extend past any components on a PCB? Is depth the problem or is it a footprint issue?
I don't mean to argue with you but it seems like from this update, he's saying that the replacement components (because chip shortage and because he didn't order anything until now) AND newer revisions of available PCBs don't fit. The original design might have fit, but we don't get to have the original design because it wasn't ordered.
But anyway, I'm just quoting an update that I don't believe to be entirely truthful. If you have more info on the situation I'll trust what you say. It's not like I have a choice anymore. Money's gone.
So all this (alleged) re-machining of (hopefully existing) cases isn't to fit the pcb they we sold with, but for other 3rd-party ones?
So all this (alleged) re-machining of (hopefully existing) cases isn't to fit the pcb they we sold with, but for other 3rd-party ones?
That is the current information I have. So much so that no major refactoring of the original PCB was needed, only component replacements which did not need redesign.
So all this (alleged) re-machining of (hopefully existing) cases isn't to fit the pcb they we sold with, but for other 3rd-party ones?
That is the current information I have. So much so that no major refactoring of the original PCB was needed, only component replacements which did not need redesign.
Given that, plus the fact no pcbs has been ordered and that he's not communicating with you.. it's far fetched to draw the conclusion there is/were no intention to use your design. That though assumes hes intentions are to fulfill the gb which also can be questioned at this stage.
6 pages since I’ve checked this and not a single picture of an aluminum top, finished rukias, PCBs…
Maybe I missed this but Jaxx did say in the discord on 5/31 that he had finished and shipped some “kits” out without PCBs. Has anyone posted any pictures in any of the various keyboard communities?
I would LOVE it if someone could show us their built r2 rukia. I’m a bit peeved that instead of showing the discord those finished kits or how they were packaged or a stack of them going out or anything at all to indicate that they actually exist and went out…they were just shipped.
I say I might’ve missed it because it was almost 2 months ago but hopefully that means they ended up in the hands of some awesome community members that are willing to show their finished builds! And maybe they even have one or more of those elusive aluminum tops.
Only ~4 months until our 1st estimated shipping date anniversary 🥰
Nobody has seen any picture of the board. Not even Gondo, his collaborator. And yet people are still hopeful they exist. This is sad.
That's the weird thing. Boards were shipped without PCBs. To who?? I didn't get the option to get my board without a pcb. Is this an SE GB only kind of thing?
I went back and read the discord #updates thread. Here's a summary:
- in November 2020, he said that shipping from the overseas manu is coming in batches. The first batch is 150 boards. Boards should ship to him first week of December, and then get packed and shipped out to customers in the following week.
- in December 2020, he said that the first batch was supposed to arrive at the beginning of December. It hasn't arrived and it's because it was shipped via boat. Also he has the means to make rukias in-house now. He said he can probably produce the first batch within 4 weeks. (estimated. not guaranteed) He also started raffling refunded spots and pointed out that it's unusual for GB runners to even offer refunds.
- We wait for boat boards for months
- in March 2021, he says that an undisclosed number of boards were damaged likely due to box cutters. The 300 boards will be shipped to him. 300? not 150? Which batch is this? The first batch is 150 boards and was on the boat we were waiting for since November. Were there more than one batch on this boat? How many batches are there in total from the overseas manu? How many boats were they shipped on? Can we see the boards?
- In April 2021, Kimchijodyboi says no refunds. he also says "CHOTTO MATTE IM NOT PISSED KEKW SPAIN WITHOUT THE A" yeah ok idk what that means. Also, I'm pissed. It's been a year since the GB started and I have nothing but a $400 hole in my wallet.
- In May 2021, he shows a side by side of his in-house produced rukia vs a round 1 rukia. he shows some pictures of scuffed rukias and gives examples of things he can fix vs things he can't fix. He posts a shaky cam video of himself which tells us literally nothing lol, as well as pictures of end mills, and a CNC machine, and white boxes... It is not explicitly stated that the scuffed rukias are boat rukias. He only says that they are damaged.
- He then updates that some kits were shipped out but without PCBs. Again, to who? I wasn't informed about this and didn't get this choice. He then talks about the chip shortage. My dude you didn't order the PCBs last year. I joined GBs after Rukia sales ended that have delivered. They didn't have issues with the chip shortage for their PCBs.
So Rukia R2 is going to be a mix of in-house produced boards, and "boat boards" from an overseas manufacturer that he is able to refinish after being "damaged by box cutters". All of these boards are currently being modified so that PCBs can fit because chip shortage means PCBs need different components than what was in the original design from last year. Too bad he didn't order PCBs last year when this wasn't an issue... even though he said he'd be shipping full kits in December 2020. It's kinda weird how he said that before ordering PCBs. It's kinda weird how the numbers for the boat boards don't add up. first batch is 150 units on a boat for months and then (undisclosed number) boards are damaged but all 300 of them are going to be inspected and refinished. Somehow he also has the means for producing rukias in-house now... but it's in a SCIF and he can't take pictures. But where are the boat rukias? Surely he could have taken photos of them. There are allegedly 150 or 300 of them.
Anyway I don't believe any of the stuff he says anymore and I want to know what jaxx did with my money.
So all this (alleged) re-machining of (hopefully existing) cases isn't to fit the pcb they we sold with, but for other 3rd-party ones?
That is the current information I have. So much so that no major refactoring of the original PCB was needed, only component replacements which did not need redesign.
Given that, plus the fact no pcbs has been ordered and that he's not communicating with you.. it's far fetched to draw the conclusion there is/were no intention to use your design. That though assumes hes intentions are to fulfill the gb which also can be questioned at this stage.
We picked up communication since my little rant. Things seem to be moving. I'll give more updates as I have them, but nothing worth noting for now
So all this (alleged) re-machining of (hopefully existing) cases isn't to fit the pcb they we sold with, but for other 3rd-party ones?
That is the current information I have. So much so that no major refactoring of the original PCB was needed, only component replacements which did not need redesign.
Given that, plus the fact no pcbs has been ordered and that he's not communicating with you.. it's far fetched to draw the conclusion there is/were no intention to use your design. That though assumes hes intentions are to fulfill the gb which also can be questioned at this stage.
We picked up communication since my little rant. Things seem to be moving. I'll give more updates as I have them, but nothing worth noting for now
We were told that things were moving along a year ago, and that we could look forward to Rukia shipping before Thanksgiving, and then Christmas, and then it just kept shifting to the right. Gondo, do you trust jaxx to fulfill this GB? I've been patiently waiting for over a year, and it's incredibly frustrating to receive second or even third hand updates and not know what to make of them. The first hand updates I received were either:
- full of promises that have fallen through (weekly updates?)
- filled with things that didn't add up (150 vs 300 boards on the boat, which batch was on the boat? How many boards were damaged?)
- later proven to be false(shipping out in December but PCBs never ordered)
I have so many more questions about what's going on that I never expect to get answered. I'm reluctant to even join any more GBs after what happened here.
Bottom line is, I don't trust jaxx, and I don't trust his mods. It's starting to seem like the only person I trust to give honest updates here is you, and that's not fair to either of us.
Mods?So all this (alleged) re-machining of (hopefully existing) cases isn't to fit the pcb they we sold with, but for other 3rd-party ones?
That is the current information I have. So much so that no major refactoring of the original PCB was needed, only component replacements which did not need redesign.
Given that, plus the fact no pcbs has been ordered and that he's not communicating with you.. it's far fetched to draw the conclusion there is/were no intention to use your design. That though assumes hes intentions are to fulfill the gb which also can be questioned at this stage.
We picked up communication since my little rant. Things seem to be moving. I'll give more updates as I have them, but nothing worth noting for now
We were told that things were moving along a year ago, and that we could look forward to Rukia shipping before Thanksgiving, and then Christmas, and then it just kept shifting to the right. Gondo, do you trust jaxx to fulfill this GB? I've been patiently waiting for over a year, and it's incredibly frustrating to receive second or even third hand updates and not know what to make of them. The first hand updates I received were either:
- full of promises that have fallen through (weekly updates?)
- filled with things that didn't add up (150 vs 300 boards on the boat, which batch was on the boat? How many boards were damaged?)
- later proven to be false(shipping out in December but PCBs never ordered)
I have so many more questions about what's going on that I never expect to get answered. I'm reluctant to even join any more GBs after what happened here.
Bottom line is, I don't trust jaxx, and I don't trust his mods. It's starting to seem like the only person I trust to give honest updates here is you, and that's not fair to either of us.
Mods?So all this (alleged) re-machining of (hopefully existing) cases isn't to fit the pcb they we sold with, but for other 3rd-party ones?
That is the current information I have. So much so that no major refactoring of the original PCB was needed, only component replacements which did not need redesign.
Given that, plus the fact no pcbs has been ordered and that he's not communicating with you.. it's far fetched to draw the conclusion there is/were no intention to use your design. That though assumes hes intentions are to fulfill the gb which also can be questioned at this stage.
We picked up communication since my little rant. Things seem to be moving. I'll give more updates as I have them, but nothing worth noting for now
We were told that things were moving along a year ago, and that we could look forward to Rukia shipping before Thanksgiving, and then Christmas, and then it just kept shifting to the right. Gondo, do you trust jaxx to fulfill this GB? I've been patiently waiting for over a year, and it's incredibly frustrating to receive second or even third hand updates and not know what to make of them. The first hand updates I received were either:
- full of promises that have fallen through (weekly updates?)
- filled with things that didn't add up (150 vs 300 boards on the boat, which batch was on the boat? How many boards were damaged?)
- later proven to be false(shipping out in December but PCBs never ordered)
I have so many more questions about what's going on that I never expect to get answered. I'm reluctant to even join any more GBs after what happened here.
Bottom line is, I don't trust jaxx, and I don't trust his mods. It's starting to seem like the only person I trust to give honest updates here is you, and that's not fair to either of us.
Well… I’m waiting for my board just like you are, and I was modding early on w a few others. The way I recall… all mods were just GB members that were helping keep things civil. Kimchi was the only one giving updates, but even then… he was just sharing what he was being told.
Mods of the discord server. Sorry if this wasn't clear haha.
Well… I’m waiting for my board just like you are, and I was modding early on w a few others. The way I recall… all mods were just GB members that were helping keep things civil. Kimchi was the only one giving updates, but even then… he was just sharing what he was being told.
Mods of the discord server. Sorry if this wasn't clear haha.
I can’t speak for the others, but there was no “extra” info given to me as a mod. I received my updates at the same time everyone else did. I might be wrong, but it seemed like kimchi got the answers he got (and shared) because he asked for them. I don’t have a crystal ball, or any insider info... but I still have my build planned out. I still hope to get the board and hope that this is something we can all get passed. If it doesn’t happen… well that’s something I risked when joining a GB. I don’t expect everyone to feel the same way I do or to have the same amount of patience. We’re human and we feel/think differently. So… if I have lost your trust…. I’m sorry to hear that and I wish that weren’t the case… but I also don’t understand why. And that’s okay too.Well… I’m waiting for my board just like you are, and I was modding early on w a few others. The way I recall… all mods were just GB members that were helping keep things civil. Kimchi was the only one giving updates, but even then… he was just sharing what he was being told.
Mods of the discord server. Sorry if this wasn't clear haha.
The impression I got from the past few months is that there was definitely information to be shared that wasn't being shared. I felt like I was purposefully being kept in the dark for some reason, especially when the discord server got locked down after zero updates, and hearing rumors about separate channel or server for Rukia SE GB that was still getting news. This is after Jaxx promised weekly updates from him personally as well. Keeping up with this geekhack thread and hearing second hand updates from people who have DM'd him for information and gotten replies was just the icing on the cake. If the GB is moving along, and Jaxx has the time to answer DMs, or update the SE GB folks, or tell his mods some news, how come the same information (or even a diluted version of it) was not relayed to the regular GB customers? Even a single line update every week (as promised?) would have been appreciated. Instead, we watched projected shipping dates pass us by, or waited for updates that never came, or a mod told us: "no refunds," or the server was straight up just locked down.
That's not to say that there weren't any updates. It's just that weekly updates didn't happen, and when jaxx says "more info tomorrow" we didn't get it, and then whatever news he gave us didn't seem to add up.
Thanks for modding early on. Things were probably better back then, but starting around March this year I've slowly lost my faith in people involved in this project. Ever since I stopped lurking and started asking questions on geekhack, I've found Gondo to be the most transparent person here.
It is sad because this would look perfect on my shelf in between my Lumina and my Scarlet Bandana IV.
Is this some kind of sick joke or something?
Worst GB Ever
^^
Jax - Hold my beer
Anything?
Smh... I don't have anything to add besides I'm sorry for adding my bad luck to this GB. I've been part of the Model F as well as the Mech27. In the future, please don't buy the things I buy. Seriously though, I hope this goes better than it has been.
If you can't wait it looks like one of the polycarbonate cases without a PCB is available from Round 1 on Mechmarket:
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/oupa8q/usny_h_rukia_w_paypal_trades/
Someone mentioned Mech27 and I wanted to recall what that was all about, ran across this:
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Let’s goooooo BBQ fundraiser
oh yea speaking of other alice layouts, someone linked the Samice IC in this thread. I actually joined it last month and it arrived two days ago. I'm typing on it right now. I had lubed mauves and gmk taro that I had reserved for my rukia build... but since that's not here yet I decided to just put those on Samice. I absolutely love the board it sounds amazing and the mirror polished stainless steel bottom is very very nice. Also the fact that it delivered in one month was simply amazing. I don't know what I'm going to do with Rukia when (if) it comes. I now already have a PC alice layout board that I love.My PC M0lly also go delayed another 2 months so I ended up finding a PC Majaphit on r/mm. Same situation where I had everything for the Rukia picked out and decided to throw it in the Maja and I am loving it. If it ever comes I will just make the decision on which one to sell to recoup the costs.
Looks like people are yearning for a polycarbonate ergonomic keyboard.
The swift chancellor, flex the white gold tarantula
Track truck diesel, play the weed God substantiala
Looks like people are yearning for a polycarbonate ergonomic keyboard.
The swift chancellor, flex the white gold tarantula
Track truck diesel, play the weed God substantiala
for gods’ sake someone please remove internet access from this literal child
Looks like people are yearning for a polycarbonate ergonomic keyboard.
The swift chancellor, flex the white gold tarantula
Track truck diesel, play the weed God substantiala
for gods’ sake someone please remove internet access from this literal child
It is appropriate of little, but still deserves some respect as that last part contains Wu Tang lyrics.
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jaxx and 27 in attempts to fund their gbs
Looks like people are yearning for a polycarbonate ergonomic keyboard.
The swift chancellor, flex the white gold tarantula
Track truck diesel, play the weed God substantiala
for gods’ sake someone please remove internet access from this literal child
It is appropriate of little, but still deserves some respect as that last part contains Wu Tang lyrics.
Did you know I am not a child. Please do not be mean to me
Yes,Escape from the dragons lair In particular my beats travel like a vortex Through your spine to the top of your cerebral cortex
Sorry the thread was boring me. I didn't know what else to write. It's only "We all hate jaxxstatic"
I am sorry for making you angry : (
Smh... I don't have anything to add besides I'm sorry for adding my bad luck to this GB. I've been part of the Model F as well as the Mech27. In the future, please don't buy the things I buy. Seriously though, I hope this goes better than it has been.
Any good group buys coming up?
Any good group buys coming up?The Yeti is running right now. The form is a little different but still a PC Alice.
Just go and get Yeti or Bear65. This not happening this year.
Just go and get Yeti or Bear65. This not happening this year.
yeti also has an "idk china is locked down" delivery date :/ and I'm having a tough time finding a buy for the bear65, idk if I'm dumb or what
Just go and get Yeti or Bear65. This not happening this year.
yeti also has an "idk china is locked down" delivery date :/ and I'm having a tough time finding a buy for the bear65, idk if I'm dumb or what
the bear65 already ran last year and is currently shipping out the remaining colors. think there was a problem with the blue ano so they're redoing it.
Just go and get Yeti or Bear65. This not happening this year.
yeti also has an "idk china is locked down" delivery date :/ and I'm having a tough time finding a buy for the bear65, idk if I'm dumb or what
Was his plan from the beginning to use the funds to get a CNC machine and just sneak in the rest of the boards?
What really was the plan here? Why was there only 150 boards ordered in the first place?
Was his plan from the beginning to use the funds to get a CNC machine and just sneak in the rest of the boards?
Honestly, the whole thing is just kinda sketch. I want to believe but with the way this GB has gone, I doubt anything will happen.
Maybe we'll get an actual update when we reach the anniversary of the delivery date.
I usually lurk but this has just been too frustrating to not voice an opinion.
Just go and get Yeti or Bear65. This not happening this year.
yeti also has an "idk china is locked down" delivery date :/ and I'm having a tough time finding a buy for the bear65, idk if I'm dumb or what
the bear65 already ran last year and is currently shipping out the remaining colors. think there was a problem with the blue ano so they're redoing it.
I'd go with nasu, an alice board with leaf spring plate.
omg this looks so good
look: for several hours now I have been told from credible sources the reason rukia has been delayed. however due to the importance and sensitivity around the subject I have refrained from going on it. i don't feel comfortable with it currently
look: for several hours now I have been told from credible sources the reason rukia has been delayed. however due to the importance and sensitivity around the subject I have refrained from going on it. i don't feel comfortable with it currently
You should definitely say something if you know anything. theres obviously a lack of information and trust in the whole process right now
Just go and get Yeti or Bear65. This not happening this year.
yeti also has an "idk china is locked down" delivery date :/ and I'm having a tough time finding a buy for the bear65, idk if I'm dumb or what
the bear65 already ran last year and is currently shipping out the remaining colors. think there was a problem with the blue ano so they're redoing it.
I'd go with nasu, an alice board with leaf spring plate.
I was interested in that one for a while but I feel like some red flags already starting to show in the IC thread. Also felt risky to drop that kind of cash on a keyboard without any decent sound tests, especially when the designer straight-up ignored multiple requests for them — no response, not even "no", like the question was never asked, while actively responding to several other questions.
I was wondering why this ugly board continued to pop up as on the front page.
Like I guess some people might like it but it can't be this good.
So I finally read the entire thread, damn it was kind of entertaining to read.
I guess that's what you get for trusting no-names with ugly designs.
Memes aside, I wonder if Jaxx still has that ice cream machine he bought a while ago to treat himself in his shop while working on Rukias. Maybe that ice cream machine has seen more results lol.
Memes aside, I wonder if Jaxx still has that ice cream machine he bought a while ago to treat himself in his shop while working on Rukias. Maybe that ice cream machine has seen more results lol.
Probably has a lower failure rate than Rukia.
Memes aside, I wonder if Jaxx still has that ice cream machine he bought a while ago to treat himself in his shop while working on Rukias. Maybe that ice cream machine has seen more results lol.
Probably has a lower failure rate than Rukia.
McDonald’s is suing their ice cream machine provider. Maybe Jaxx can hop on the train and get the funds to finish these boards :)
In the same boat as you as I'm sure many others. Definitely frustrating, and I'm wondering what it'll take before we get some sort of update.
I was wondering why this ugly board continued to pop up as on the front page.Why post in a GB thread that you didn't join about how you don't like the design? What was there to gain from this comment?
Like I guess some people might like it but it can't be this good.
So I finally read the entire thread, damn it was kind of entertaining to read.
I guess that's what you get for trusting no-names with ugly designs.
If a class action is open, how many of you will join?
If a class action is open, how many of you will join?
This right here... Sounding like a pretty good option to me at this point, given the complete lack of transparency.
omg this looks so good
Wait until you read the rest of the posts.
https://imgur.com/bjMrrCC.mp4
This thread right now
If a class action is open, how many of you will join?
This right here... Sounding like a pretty good option to me at this point, given the complete lack of transparency.
I'm in and I believe there will be many once that happens.
I just don't know what it costs.
How about IC for class act?
Any updates Gondo? You are our only ray of hope in this ****ed up situation.
Jaxx clearly doesn't care or is just straight up a thief.
doxxing concerns
Any updates Gondo? You are our only ray of hope in this ****ed up situation.
Jaxx clearly doesn't care or is just straight up a thief.
Last I checked with Jaxx he's still on the process of manufacturing PCB prototypes.
Quotedoxxing concerns
TBF, registering your business to an apartment is kinda asking for it to get out there. Anyway, as far as the value of a case to a law firm, you're probably right. But I've got some calls out to friends, so we will see. I'd rather the legal fees take most of the money and get back a little then let him walk away with it all.
Quotedoxxing concerns
TBF, registering your business to an apartment is kinda asking for it to get out there. Anyway, as far as the value of a case to a law firm, you're probably right. But I've got some calls out to friends, so we will see. I'd rather the legal fees take most of the money and get back a little then let him walk away with it all.
1. What are the chances Jaxx as any money to recover from? Slim.
2. If you initiate a lawsuit, you're going to end up spending money to recover probably little to nothing.
I think the dude uninstalled discord
maybe he got ran over by a car
I’m not sure why people are eager to start dealing with lawyers and courts.
Hi everyone.
I want updates as much as the next person, but I just want to be a voice of caution in the conversation regarding taking legal action.
I know times are hard with the pandemic, but it seems that a lot of people have requested refunds etc and have already been granted them (this is very, very rare in a Groupbuy). I know nothing about Jaxx's situation but requesting and expecting more refunds is presumably not helping the situation.
It’s been about a year and half since the buy. Not long in my opinion compared to most group buys. I’m not defending the lack of communication here but just encouraging people who may not be used to this type of timeframe and purchase anxiety.
I’m not a lawyer, but my own knowledge regarding groupbuys has always been that I’m giving money to an anonymous person on blind faith and might never see anything for it.
If we never get the boards I will be as angry and jaded as anyone, but for now we have heard approximately what is happening at this point from Gondo, so I’m not sure why people are eager to start dealing with lawyers and courts. I encourage everyone to remain hopeful and take a breath - I am still waiting on boards that I purchased years ago!
Hi everyone.
I want updates as much as the next person, but I just want to be a voice of caution in the conversation regarding taking legal action.
I know times are hard with the pandemic, but it seems that a lot of people have requested refunds etc and have already been granted them (this is very, very rare in a Groupbuy). I know nothing about Jaxx's situation but requesting and expecting more refunds is presumably not helping the situation.
It’s been about a year and half since the buy. Not long in my opinion compared to most group buys. I’m not defending the lack of communication here but just encouraging people who may not be used to this type of timeframe and purchase anxiety.
I’m not a lawyer, but my own knowledge regarding groupbuys has always been that I’m giving money to an anonymous person on blind faith and might never see anything for it.
If we never get the boards I will be as angry and jaded as anyone, but for now we have heard approximately what is happening at this point from Gondo, so I’m not sure why people are eager to start dealing with lawyers and courts. I encourage everyone to remain hopeful and take a breath - I am still waiting on boards that I purchased years ago!
Mod was able to push Weaston to provide an update good or bad on GSKT-00. Maybe we can get a mod to force an update from Jaxx. Would be nice to hear something.
Mod was able to push Weaston to provide an update good or bad on GSKT-00. Maybe we can get a mod to force an update from Jaxx. Would be nice to hear something.
I wonder if/how that would work if Jaxx is avoiding Geekhack. According to his profile it's been a month since he's logged in.
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maybe he got ran over by a car
Wait... you think there's even a chance that this ends up fulfilling?Hi everyone.
I want updates as much as the next person, but I just want to be a voice of caution in the conversation regarding taking legal action.
I know times are hard with the pandemic, but it seems that a lot of people have requested refunds etc and have already been granted them (this is very, very rare in a Groupbuy). I know nothing about Jaxx's situation but requesting and expecting more refunds is presumably not helping the situation.
It’s been about a year and half since the buy. Not long in my opinion compared to most group buys. I’m not defending the lack of communication here but just encouraging people who may not be used to this type of timeframe and purchase anxiety.
I’m not a lawyer, but my own knowledge regarding groupbuys has always been that I’m giving money to an anonymous person on blind faith and might never see anything for it.
If we never get the boards I will be as angry and jaded as anyone, but for now we have heard approximately what is happening at this point from Gondo, so I’m not sure why people are eager to start dealing with lawyers and courts. I encourage everyone to remain hopeful and take a breath - I am still waiting on boards that I purchased years ago!
The main issues with possibly bringing in legal action is if there was any semblance of a chance that the GB finishes it would be obliterated by the legal clusterf***.
There's no point complaining.
Boards need to be more expensive so runners don't exhaust funds.
There's no point complaining.
Boards need to be more expensive so runners don't exhaust funds.
Boards need to be more expensive so runners don't exhaust funds.
Surprised this hasn't been posted on Reddit yet.
There's no point complaining.
Boards need to be more expensive so runners don't exhaust funds.
There's no point complaining.
Boards need to be more expensive so runners don't exhaust funds.
Surprised this hasn't been posted on Reddit yet.
It was! Sort of. Someone made a funny AMV style video a few months ago with all the details, some video game thing. I’m no weeb so idk what it was and I can’t find it but it made its rounds on Reddit and keeb discord servers etc. Probably in one of the previous pages.
Just found my PayPal receipt emails from May 5, 2020. Fun fact: according to an inflation calculator on the Internet, my purchase of a rukia and aluminum top for $611 in 2020 is the equivalent of $644 today.
Anyone ever figure out the mystery folks that apparently had their orders shipped to them without PCBs or was that just a total fabrication? Why even lie about that though…
There's no point complaining.
Boards need to be more expensive so runners don't exhaust funds.
Are you actually dumb? If it really is a case of the board runner exhausting funds because he waited until a year later to order PCBs and other nonsense, that's our fault?
And instead of complaining, I guess we'll all just shut up and let our money get stolen while the board runner ignores everyone and makes icecream for himself?
There's no point complaining.
Boards need to be more expensive so runners don't exhaust funds.
I disagree. If you are up for paying extra, get a board on the aftermarket which you are guaranteed to obtain.
Nobody stole money. You're an investor in ice cream.
Ode to Ice Cream.... a poetic lamentation of stalled Group BuysThere's no point complaining.
Boards need to be more expensive so runners don't exhaust funds.
Are you actually dumb? If it really is a case of the board runner exhausting funds because he waited until a year later to order PCBs and other nonsense, that's our fault?
And instead of complaining, I guess we'll all just shut up and let our money get stolen while the board runner ignores everyone and makes icecream for himself?
Call the roller of big keyboards,
The muscular one, and bid him mill
In machine shops concupiscent curves.
Let the wenches dawdle in alu tops
As they are used to wear, and let the boys
Bring alices from last month's group buys.
Let be be finale of seem.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.
Take from the dresser of deal,
Lacking the three encoder knobs, that sheet
On which she embroidered LEDs once
And spread it so as to cover her face.
If her case bottoms protrude, they come
To show how cold she is, and dumb.
Let the lamp affix its beam.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.
Beautiful. I'm touched. Much better than that ketchup hack.Call the roller of big keyboards,
The muscular one, and bid him mill
In machine shops concupiscent curves.
Let the wenches dawdle in alu tops
As they are used to wear, and let the boys
Bring alices from last month's group buys.
Let be be finale of seem.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.
Take from the dresser of deal,
Lacking the three encoder knobs, that sheet
On which she embroidered LEDs once
And spread it so as to cover her face.
If her case bottoms protrude, they come
To show how cold she is, and dumb.
Let the lamp affix its beam.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.
Y'all big dumb dumb. GBs are NEVER a guarantee of delivery. If you want a guarantee that you will receive a product, stick to in-stock buys. You're basically kickstarting a project because the vendor refuses to put their own money upfront or does not have the amount to. Y'all are literally throwing money without any proof. This is a peer "moderated" marketplace where vendors rely on established reputation from previous deliveries. STOP encouraging this **** and advocate for stores to do more in-stock products.
Y'all big dumb dumb. GBs are NEVER a guarantee of delivery. If you want a guarantee that you will receive a product, stick to in-stock buys. You're basically kickstarting a project because the vendor refuses to put their own money upfront or does not have the amount to. Y'all are literally throwing money without any proof. This is a peer "moderated" marketplace where vendors rely on established reputation from previous deliveries. STOP encouraging this **** and advocate for stores to do more in-stock products.
thank you for the irrelevant info that everyone already knows
Last comment I promise.
I continue to believe Jaxx is a good person and wants to deliver.
Ohh wow. Flexibility is so much more important than actually receiving the product I paid for. Hmm. Would I rather buy a keyboard where it's not the perfect color and cerakote it afterwards? Or would I rather be down $XXX. You say it's more nuanced but offered nothing to add. What customization options are you willing to risk this amount of money for when you can customize later for an additional cost? And don't tell me GBs are more convenient. If you're dumb enough to give someone an interest free loan with no guarantee of a return, then that's on you.Y'all big dumb dumb. GBs are NEVER a guarantee of delivery. If you want a guarantee that you will receive a product, stick to in-stock buys. You're basically kickstarting a project because the vendor refuses to put their own money upfront or does not have the amount to. Y'all are literally throwing money without any proof. This is a peer "moderated" marketplace where vendors rely on established reputation from previous deliveries. STOP encouraging this **** and advocate for stores to do more in-stock products.
thank you for the irrelevant info that everyone already knows
They solved the problem for the entire community! Woah, can't believe we've never thought of that before!!!
Less annoying response: It's more nuanced than just "only shop in-stock products". Plenty of threads around here discussing this. GBs aren't a great system, but we don't have many options that still retain agency/flexibility in the design processLast comment I promise.
I continue to believe Jaxx is a good person and wants to deliver.
Yeah. If this wasn't intentionally fraud, a huge group of trolls and angry customers could trigger a butt ton of anxiety and fear. I honestly don't blame Jaxx for not chiming in on the thread.
Ohh wow. Flexibility is so much more important than actually receiving the product I paid for. Hmm. Would I rather buy a keyboard where it's not the perfect color and cerakote it afterwards? Or would I rather be down $XXX. You say it's more nuanced but offered nothing to add. What customization options are you willing to risk this amount of money for when you can customize later for an additional cost? And don't tell me GBs are more convenient. If you're dumb enough to give someone an interest free loan with no guarantee of a return, then that's on you.Y'all big dumb dumb. GBs are NEVER a guarantee of delivery. If you want a guarantee that you will receive a product, stick to in-stock buys. You're basically kickstarting a project because the vendor refuses to put their own money upfront or does not have the amount to. Y'all are literally throwing money without any proof. This is a peer "moderated" marketplace where vendors rely on established reputation from previous deliveries. STOP encouraging this **** and advocate for stores to do more in-stock products.
thank you for the irrelevant info that everyone already knows
They solved the problem for the entire community! Woah, can't believe we've never thought of that before!!!
Less annoying response: It's more nuanced than just "only shop in-stock products". Plenty of threads around here discussing this. GBs aren't a great system, but we don't have many options that still retain agency/flexibility in the design processLast comment I promise.
I continue to believe Jaxx is a good person and wants to deliver.
Yeah. If this wasn't intentionally fraud, a huge group of trolls and angry customers could trigger a butt ton of anxiety and fear. I honestly don't blame Jaxx for not chiming in on the thread.
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I PM this dude on Discord once or twice a week. He quit responding 07/08. Not a word.
Cool, cool, 3 months since the last “non-“ update.
I love checking in on this dumpster fire every once in a while. :p
Got my chargeback approved also. Glad to be rid of this cursed GB
Got my chargeback approved also. Glad to be rid of this cursed GB
So each kit was $390, with shipping, extra plates, pcbs, tops and what not I think it's safe to assume people on average paid around $430 if not more.
In this post someone says there were around 500 orders in total.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105770.msg3046146#msg3046146
Did this dude just scam 500 people of $215 000 ( Two hundred twenty thousand dollars! ) and is getting away with by just ghosting and people not giving a ****!?
FWIW... understand everyone's anger here. Small point to add in... when folks talk about legal action (which could be totally valid), I'd expect any legal representation for Jaxx to advise him to shut his mouth. All things he could say / do when threatened with legal action could be detrimental to him in court. Don't know if this is the case here... but could be part of the silence. Hopefully he's still working on this stuff =/
FWIW... understand everyone's anger here. Small point to add in... when folks talk about legal action (which could be totally valid), I'd expect any legal representation for Jaxx to advise him to shut his mouth. All things he could say / do when threatened with legal action could be detrimental to him in court. Don't know if this is the case here... but could be part of the silence. Hopefully he's still working on this stuff =/
So talking legal action is not a good alternative as it would scare him quiet? I mean how f-cking silent can a guy get?
This dude haven't been seen for months, you seriously think he's still working on the GB?
No one given the state this GB is in can be that stupid to work on it in silence. It's his silence (among other things) that taken us here.
There is a reason he ghosted and it's not good.
FWIW... understand everyone's anger here. Small point to add in... when folks talk about legal action (which could be totally valid), I'd expect any legal representation for Jaxx to advise him to shut his mouth. All things he could say / do when threatened with legal action could be detrimental to him in court. Don't know if this is the case here... but could be part of the silence. Hopefully he's still working on this stuff =/
So talking legal action is not a good alternative as it would scare him quiet? I mean how f-cking silent can a guy get?
This dude haven't been seen for months, you seriously think he's still working on the GB?
No one given the state this GB is in can be that stupid to work on it in silence. It's his silence (among other things) that taken us here.
There is a reason he ghosted and it's not good.
Like he said above, if he has representation now then he is likely being advised to keep quiet. I agree he went dark long before someone mentioned litigation, but I wouldn't be surprised that any possibility of Jaxx talking to us was probably 100% dead after someone brought it up.
So each kit was $390, with shipping, extra plates, pcbs, tops and what not I think it's safe to assume people on average paid around $430 if not more.
In this post someone says there were around 500 orders in total.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105770.msg3046146#msg3046146
Did this dude just scam 500 people of $215 000 ( Two hundred twenty thousand dollars! ) and is getting away with by just ghosting and people not giving a ****!?
So each kit was $390, with shipping, extra plates, pcbs, tops and what not I think it's safe to assume people on average paid around $430 if not more.
In this post someone says there were around 500 orders in total.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105770.msg3046146#msg3046146
Did this dude just scam 500 people of $215 000 ( Two hundred twenty thousand dollars! ) and is getting away with by just ghosting and people not giving a ****!?Show Image(https://humornama.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/First-Time-meme-template-of-The-Ballad-of-Buster-Scruggs-1024x576.jpg)
FWIW... understand everyone's anger here. Small point to add in... when folks talk about legal action (which could be totally valid), I'd expect any legal representation for Jaxx to advise him to shut his mouth. All things he could say / do when threatened with legal action could be detrimental to him in court. Don't know if this is the case here... but could be part of the silence. Hopefully he's still working on this stuff =/
So talking legal action is not a good alternative as it would scare him quiet? I mean how f-cking silent can a guy get?
This dude haven't been seen for months, you seriously think he's still working on the GB?
No one given the state this GB is in can be that stupid to work on it in silence. It's his silence (among other things) that taken us here.
There is a reason he ghosted and it's not good.
Like he said above, if he has representation now then he is likely being advised to keep quiet. I agree he went dark long before someone mentioned litigation, but I wouldn't be surprised that any possibility of Jaxx talking to us was probably 100% dead after someone brought it up.
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=what+is+a+credit+card+chargebackGot my chargeback approved also. Glad to be rid of this cursed GB
What's a charge back? I want out as well. Could you point me to the right direction?
FWIW... understand everyone's anger here. Small point to add in... when folks talk about legal action (which could be totally valid), I'd expect any legal representation for Jaxx to advise him to shut his mouth. All things he could say / do when threatened with legal action could be detrimental to him in court. Don't know if this is the case here... but could be part of the silence. Hopefully he's still working on this stuff =/
So talking legal action is not a good alternative as it would scare him quiet? I mean how f-cking silent can a guy get?
This dude haven't been seen for months, you seriously think he's still working on the GB?
No one given the state this GB is in can be that stupid to work on it in silence. It's his silence (among other things) that taken us here.
There is a reason he ghosted and it's not good.
Like he said above, if he has representation now then he is likely being advised to keep quiet. I agree he went dark long before someone mentioned litigation, but I wouldn't be surprised that any possibility of Jaxx talking to us was probably 100% dead after someone brought it up.
Lawyer here.
The mention of litigation wouldn't do anything in my opinion to change his behavior. It's not like mentioning the word "litigation" magically does anything.
As a practical matter, no one is going to sue on this, especially if Jaxx is broke. I doubt Jaxx just took the cash and ran away; I suspect he tried to get cute and it blew up in his face.
I understand that Jaxx had a LLC. Assuming he wasn't co-mingling funds and it wasn't straight fraud, but "merely" being really bad at business, that's even more reason not to pursue litigation. Chance of collection is so low.
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I doubt the guy is broke as he has a haas vf2ss which he probs bought with the funds of this gb lol
What are your banks? Chargeback worked fine for me, maybe you're not explaining the situation properly.
Mind blowing that this guy can run away with $200k cash. The old way of robbing banks is weak, just post a Group Buy with a long time horizon, and let a bunch of nerds throw money at you, especially the stupid ones that may even pay you with PayPal. Milk the timeline and fake it with an "NDA" alibi when called out to show some hard proof, then simply lock your own discourse server and ghost. Profit.
Oh yeah, totally forgot how he was somehow able to get all those simps in the Discord to mindlessly and affectionately parrot "I love rukia" EVERY DAY. Where are those cringey f*ckers now that their money has been stolen too? Bet they don't love rukia quite so much anymore, HUH?
This sort of proves that Jaxx was actually a grandmaster at this. These are some next-level thievery tactics. He has all of the makings of being a Cult leader. Who knows, he might start his own sanctuary next with the $200k he ran off with.
But what I really think is he's anonymously reading this thread and laughing at all of us while eating ice cream cones from the machine we gave him.
Quoteauthor=Sh1zaru
I doubt the guy is broke as he has a haas vf2ss which he probs bought with the funds of this gb lol
Where/how do you know this?
You people need to state what your banks are instead of just saying "my bank". I bought this with my Wells Fargo (of all places) credit card and they were able to "go back in time" by making a redundant record of the original Mint Autumn transaction in current time, and then creating the chargeback off of it. Surprisingly simple and helpful of them. I already have all of my money back into the account in fact, in less than 2 weeks.
On to the next Alice Keyboard that hopefully isn't a total scam... on that note, are there any recent Alice boards that are BETTER than Rukia?
Oh yeah, totally forgot how he was somehow able to get all those simps in the Discord to mindlessly and affectionately parrot "I love rukia" EVERY DAY. Where are those cringey f*ckers now that their money has been stolen too? Bet they don't love rukia quite so much anymore, HUH?
This sort of proves that Jaxx was actually a grandmaster at this. These are some next-level thievery tactics. He has all of the makings of being a Cult leader. Who knows, he might start his own sanctuary next with the $200k he ran off with.
But what I really think is he's anonymously reading this thread and laughing at all of us while eating ice cream cones from the machine we gave him.
You people need to state what your banks are instead of just saying "my bank". I bought this with my Wells Fargo (of all places) credit card and they were able to "go back in time" by making a redundant record of the original Mint Autumn transaction in current time, and then creating the chargeback off of it. Surprisingly simple and helpful of them. I already have all of my money back into the account in fact, in less than 2 weeks.
On to the next Alice Keyboard that hopefully isn't a total scam... on that note, are there any recent Alice boards that are BETTER than Rukia?
Sorry about that, it was purchased with my Chase credit card. They were pretty adamant about not being able initiate the chargeback. Glad it worked out for you though, that was nice of Wells Fargo.
You people need to state what your banks are instead of just saying "my bank". I bought this with my Wells Fargo (of all places) credit card and they were able to "go back in time" by making a redundant record of the original Mint Autumn transaction in current time, and then creating the chargeback off of it. Surprisingly simple and helpful of them. I already have all of my money back into the account in fact, in less than 2 weeks.
On to the next Alice Keyboard that hopefully isn't a total scam... on that note, are there any recent Alice boards that are BETTER than Rukia?
Sorry about that, it was purchased with my Chase credit card. They were pretty adamant about not being able initiate the chargeback. Glad it worked out for you though, that was nice of Wells Fargo.
Doubtless, this will be misconstrued and meme'd to hell and back, but here goes:
Misconceptions:
1. I ran with everyone's money.
2. I used the money to buy a CNC.
3. ice cream machine
Realities:
1. The money you spent on Rukia ALL went towards making Rukia
-Case manu in China plus extra for QC
-PCB design paid to Gondo (for an open source design after Upas declined to make more Rukia PCBs like R1)
-knobs
-encoders
-packaging
-shipping
-taxes
*The manu screwed up the first shipment after delaying for 3 months past when they estimated they could finish. The shipping and customs issues were the last straw.
*I opted to get a lawyer involved = no further production or shipments from the Chinese manu
*I started making the boards myself
2. NO money from Rukia was used for my other manufacturing business. It's actually the opposite. I got two business loans to set up being able to manufacture products out of UHMWPE.
Money from that has been used to try to salvage this group buy and get Rukias made.
3. It's a kitchen appliance--same size as a toaster oven.
Things are stalled right now for several reasons, including-but-not-limited-to the following:
-2 separate CNC crashes
-shoulder injury
-working overtime on a contract job to fund continuing with Rukia
Being silent started as just a break from trying to be cordial to people calling me names several times a day and telling me to kill myself, but then my mother in law was hospitalized and became septic (we thought she was dying), so I was busying figuring out where we would live, then had to take care of her and our care home for the elderly, etc.
After, I didn't have any time to do anything but work, take care of both my kids, my mother in law, etc.
When I asked for advice from my lawyer and doctor, I was advised to stop all one to one and online communication, even with friends, and put out updates as things actually progress.
For anyone that has sent an encouraging message: thank you.
For anyone that has tried to stay hopeful for this group buy: thank you.
For anyone that could not wait: I'm sorry. Thank you for waiting as long as you did.
Rukia will be finished.
I don't have a reliable ETA as of now, but as soon as I do, I'll let everyone know.
Doubtless, this will be misconstrued and meme'd to hell and back, but here goes:
Misconceptions:
1. I ran with everyone's money.
2. I used the money to buy a CNC.
3. ice cream machine
Realities:
1. The money you spent on Rukia ALL went towards making Rukia
-Case manu in China plus extra for QC
-PCB design paid to Gondo (for an open source design after Upas declined to make more Rukia PCBs like R1)
-knobs
-encoders
-packaging
-shipping
-taxes
*The manu screwed up the first shipment after delaying for 3 months past when they estimated they could finish. The shipping and customs issues were the last straw.
*I opted to get a lawyer involved = no further production or shipments from the Chinese manu
*I started making the boards myself
2. NO money from Rukia was used for my other manufacturing business. It's actually the opposite. I got two business loans to set up being able to manufacture products out of UHMWPE.
Money from that has been used to try to salvage this group buy and get Rukias made.
3. It's a kitchen appliance--same size as a toaster oven.
Things are stalled right now for several reasons, including-but-not-limited-to the following:
-2 separate CNC crashes
-shoulder injury
-working overtime on a contract job to fund continuing with Rukia
Being silent started as just a break from trying to be cordial to people calling me names several times a day and telling me to kill myself, but then my mother in law was hospitalized and became septic (we thought she was dying), so I was busying figuring out where we would live, then had to take care of her and our care home for the elderly, etc.
After, I didn't have any time to do anything but work, take care of both my kids, my mother in law, etc.
When I asked for advice from my lawyer and doctor, I was advised to stop all one to one and online communication, even with friends, and put out updates as things actually progress.
For anyone that has sent an encouraging message: thank you.
For anyone that has tried to stay hopeful for this group buy: thank you.
For anyone that could not wait: I'm sorry. Thank you for waiting as long as you did.
Rukia will be finished.
I don't have a reliable ETA as of now, but as soon as I do, I'll let everyone know.
Even without any payment whatsoever I have designed a PCB
He then told me he would understand if I jumped out and proceeded to transfer me half of the commission money.
PCB design paid to Gondo (for an open source design after Upas declined to make more Rukia PCBs like R1)
So you did get an ice cream machine?
Just smaller? :thumb:
-PCB design paid to Gondo (for an open source design after Upas declined to make more Rukia PCBs like R1)
i back sry no se chat update mr jaxx has lock chat for se chat n no update
i say 1 to mr jaxx pls 2 giv name of china factory if u say u not use now so every1 at least not use them in future ty mr jaxx pls reply
Need to point out something obvious here before all these simps just "reset" and it's all roses and daisies again. I feel like we're one more reply away from people chanting "I love rukia" again, and all is forgotten.
-It has been over 100 days since Jaxx came in with this reply
-This reply is the SAME F*CKING RHETORIC we've been hearing for the past 1.5+ years... Too busy with life, sad stories with personal problems, overworked, still NO ETA.
The point is, we're all busy people too. If a board has stalled this blatantly for 1.5+ years, it's not exactly likely something is going to magically turn around any time soon. No matter how many mea culpas or "feel good" replies come out. At this point, people should be demanding (and have) DEFINITIVE proof and updates of what's going on, and a NO ETA should NOT be acceptable after 1.5+ years of this circus show.
The only reason why Jaxx FINALLY resurfaced is because all of the Chargebacks people have been doing worked. He realized he can't just hide forever with the money.
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
Misconceptions:
I used the money to buy a CNC.
Realities:
1. The money you spent on Rukia ALL went towards making Rukia
...
*I started making the boards myself
-working overtime on a contract job to fund continuing with RukiaThen how did you fund the CNC in the first place? You claimed that you did not use any $ from Rukia, then how did you think you were going to make back the money then? From future sales? When you are trying to complete current orders? After winning the litigation w/ manu which may or may not happen and will most likely take years?.... This is so financially unsound... or if you are really that deep pockets then just sell everything you have on this project and refund everyone and be glad that no one is asking for interest
so when's the bbq
Rukia r2 bbq meetup? Sign me upso when's the bbq
costco has some killer deals on brisket rn baby!
It is so funny to see all those simps who attacked doubters go silent now.
"Reputable Community Member" "Nice Guy" "Wholesome" yeah sure lol
Speaking of simps, these are a couple of weak ass soyboiz right here:
Speaking of simps, these are a couple of weak ass soyboiz right here:
Speaking of simps, these are a couple of weak ass soyboiz right here:
You already got your chargeback approved, so not really sure why you're still hanging around here just to insult others.
It is so funny to see all those simps who attacked doubters go silent now.
"Reputable Community Member" "Nice Guy" "Wholesome" yeah sure lol
I sure as hell don't see any reason to start calling other users "simps" because you disagree with the views of some of the groupbuy participants..Speaking of simps, these are a couple of weak ass soyboiz right here:
Calling other users out stating they are "weak ass soyboiz", really? Damn..
Instead of being on the vulnerable end and having your money taken while hoping endlessly, I rather be in more control and try to buy an extra if this keyboard actually materializes. Until then, I don’t have to worry about if I will ever get what I paid for.
A lot of the accounts posting seem to have been created recently - or around the time this groupbuy started. Some of the attitudes seem to imply an expectation that there's the same relationship here between us and jaxx as there would be with any big company - an idea that there's no real financial impact on the "company" by individual actions. This is only my opinion, but I think a groupbuy is different. And while I'd never tell anybody what choices to make with their money, I imagine it doesn't help the groupbuy to issue chargebacks, or to encourage others to do the same en masse. In fact, you could be jeopardizing the chances of things working out for those of us who still have a stake in the buy.
QuoteA lot of the accounts posting seem to have been created recently - or around the time this groupbuy started. Some of the attitudes seem to imply an expectation that there's the same relationship here between us and jaxx as there would be with any big company - an idea that there's no real financial impact on the "company" by individual actions. This is only my opinion, but I think a groupbuy is different. And while I'd never tell anybody what choices to make with their money, I imagine it doesn't help the groupbuy to issue chargebacks, or to encourage others to do the same en masse. In fact, you could be jeopardizing the chances of things working out for those of us who still have a stake in the buy.
This is super condescending. A normal groupbuy has the maker share updates and pictures and such. So that users dont have to worry even if something goes wrong.
Jaxx refuses to do anything to make the doubts go and you actually have the gall to tell people chargebacks of their money doesnt help?
Big yikes.
Personally, I've seen enough activity from Jaxx and through Gondo over the summer to indicate that hasn't happened
QuotePersonally, I've seen enough activity from Jaxx and through Gondo over the summer to indicate that hasn't happened
Are we following the same group buy? The one where Gondo had to threaten to withhold the pcb software just to get in contact with Jax? With all the evidence we have, or lack thereof, it's pretty selfish of you to ask ppl to not take action and risk losing $500 just so you can keep hoping your board delivers
I just want to be clear: I have no beef with anyone here. I also mean no disrespect towards anyone here, or their opinions.
I didn't like the comments by the user that were deleted, because they seemed unnecessarily offensive.
There is a lot of understandable frustration with this groupbuy being voiced. I am frustrated too. I just want my voice to also be heard, which is that I'm content for now to continue waiting and hoping for this to fulfill. Presumably there are some others who feel similarly, but I don't know.
I have a great deal of respect for those of you who are voicing strong opinions. The community needs to demand accountability in this hobby, and to police itself in a way. I'm just trying to be part of the discussion.
hi i hav ? after now we hav date 2 look if jax say show up at date n he hav no pic n only excus 4 y no pic do u jus say thx u 4 lyin to my face ??? that y i think ppl say things u point out. mb i be wrong but wen some1 keep lyin 2 my face n go away then com back n not hav ne pic of y they gon i not care if they com back. dis y i think ppl say simp n stuff bc jus havin words n excuse but no pic or nething not good enuf now. he not even say 5% don or nething. u cn say mom is sick n also say only 5% don u kno.
Your W key broke?I just want to be clear: I have no beef with anyone here. I also mean no disrespect towards anyone here, or their opinions.
I didn't like the comments by the user that were deleted, because they seemed unnecessarily offensive.
There is a lot of understandable frustration with this groupbuy being voiced. I am frustrated too. I just want my voice to also be heard, which is that I'm content for now to continue waiting and hoping for this to fulfill. Presumably there are some others who feel similarly, but I don't know.
I have a great deal of respect for those of you who are voicing strong opinions. The community needs to demand accountability in this hobby, and to police itself in a way. I'm just trying to be part of the discussion.
hi i hav ? after now we hav date 2 look if jax say show up at date n he hav no pic n only excus 4 y no pic do u jus say thx u 4 lyin to my face ??? that y i think ppl say things u point out. mb i be wrong but wen some1 keep lyin 2 my face n go away then com back n not hav ne pic of y they gon i not care if they com back. dis y i think ppl say simp n stuff bc jus havin words n excuse but no pic or nething not good enuf now. he not even say 5% don or nething. u cn say mom is sick n also say only 5% don u kno.
Your W key broke?I just want to be clear: I have no beef with anyone here. I also mean no disrespect towards anyone here, or their opinions.
I didn't like the comments by the user that were deleted, because they seemed unnecessarily offensive.
There is a lot of understandable frustration with this groupbuy being voiced. I am frustrated too. I just want my voice to also be heard, which is that I'm content for now to continue waiting and hoping for this to fulfill. Presumably there are some others who feel similarly, but I don't know.
I have a great deal of respect for those of you who are voicing strong opinions. The community needs to demand accountability in this hobby, and to police itself in a way. I'm just trying to be part of the discussion.
hi i hav ? after now we hav date 2 look if jax say show up at date n he hav no pic n only excus 4 y no pic do u jus say thx u 4 lyin to my face ??? that y i think ppl say things u point out. mb i be wrong but wen some1 keep lyin 2 my face n go away then com back n not hav ne pic of y they gon i not care if they com back. dis y i think ppl say simp n stuff bc jus havin words n excuse but no pic or nething not good enuf now. he not even say 5% don or nething. u cn say mom is sick n also say only 5% don u kno.
the question is why does jaxx not have pictures now? and only pictures in october? what about those scuffed rukias from the china manu? i hope the next update he doesnt just show a few rukias, imagine only having a few after 1 and a half years...
I hope we get pictures as part of the update planned in the future. It's not that hard to post some pictures to provide evidence they exist.
In my book, we don't have pictures because the boards don't exist...simple as that :(
Some of the attitudes seem to imply an expectation that there's the same relationship here between us and jaxx as there would be with any big company - an idea that there's no real financial impact on the "company" by individual actions. This is only my opinion, but I think a groupbuy is different. And while I'd never tell anybody what choices to make with their money, I imagine it doesn't help the groupbuy to issue chargebacks, or to encourage others to do the same en masse. In fact, you could be jeopardizing the chances of things working out for those of us who still have a stake in the buy.
Some of the attitudes seem to imply an expectation that there's the same relationship here between us and jaxx as there would be with any big company - an idea that there's no real financial impact on the "company" by individual actions. This is only my opinion, but I think a groupbuy is different. And while I'd never tell anybody what choices to make with their money, I imagine it doesn't help the groupbuy to issue chargebacks, or to encourage others to do the same en masse. In fact, you could be jeopardizing the chances of things working out for those of us who still have a stake in the buy.
You need to GTFO of here with that. You must really like buying snake oil. The reality is, there IS NO board. And if there is ever going to be one, it's probably not another year away because clearly, Jaxx has barely even started on anything.
At that point, this board isn't even worth having for the way the group buy patrons have been treated. You'll be owning something forged from a 2 year+ dumpster fire, which isn't exactly good pedigree.
Some of the attitudes seem to imply an expectation that there's the same relationship here between us and jaxx as there would be with any big company - an idea that there's no real financial impact on the "company" by individual actions. This is only my opinion, but I think a groupbuy is different. And while I'd never tell anybody what choices to make with their money, I imagine it doesn't help the groupbuy to issue chargebacks, or to encourage others to do the same en masse. In fact, you could be jeopardizing the chances of things working out for those of us who still have a stake in the buy.
You need to GTFO of here with that. You must really like buying snake oil. The reality is, there IS NO board. And if there is ever going to be one, it's probably not another year away because clearly, Jaxx has barely even started on anything.
At that point, this board isn't even worth having for the way the group buy patrons have been treated. You'll be owning something forged from a 2 year+ dumpster fire, which isn't exactly good pedigree.
Agreed.
Amazon isn't holding people's money for 2 years with nothing to show for it.
My problem with this GB is Jaxx has treated his customers with zero respect. He has no respect for the people that gave him hundreds of dollars.
You would think that the least someone could buy for $500 is the courtesy of reasonable updates and truthfulness.
^After reading that and seeing how incredibly ignorant you are, my soyboi comment earlier honestly has some validity, but whatever. You dodge red flags better than Neo dodges bullets in the Matrix, and it's beyond annoying.
In what figment of your imagination is leading you to believe that Jaxx is really trying to give you a board? What proof do you have? After 1.5+ years, we know more about his personal inconveniences and stance on SCIF than we do about the actual board. The PCBs aren't even figured out, this late in the game, and it's been over 100 days with no communication and no proper update, yet you still think he's trying to get you a board.
FiddyFathoms already said it, THERE IS NO BOARD. And if there is one, be prepared to wait 2-3+ years at the rate this has all been going. When do YOU think you're going to get this board in your hands?
I just hope others reading this thread are not influenced by your inaneness, because your perspective is so far removed from reality.
To others, not you because you're hopeless: Stop the disrespect and this nonsense, do all you can to get a chargeback, and get YOUR MONEY back. If the board materializes, buy it then in the year 2030. If not, you have your money and can move on with life and other boards that actually deliver.
All of this drama could be cleared up with Jaxx showing pictures of boards that he claimed shipped to him. I assume he is aware of that.
So people complained that Jaxx wasn't updating enough, which was fair - but the moment he updates, yall **** on him for not giving more?
Please, if he ran off with our money, he would have stopped the pretenses a long time ago.
Angry with the delay? This is what group buys are. We send money to a person/group willing to organize and produce a product that normally would never get produced. You do the research and determine the level of risk. Presumably, if you join a group buy, you accepted the level of risk involved. Group Buy 101. If you don't like it...then probably don't join group buys? Wait for extras or in-stock sales?
All of these delays we're seeing are pretty reasonable, given the circumstances. It seems that anything that could go wrong has gone wrong, all in the middle of COVID - and its ultimately one dude trying to make this all work.
****ting on the organizer is never productive. Screaming scam is never productive unless its during a GB to warn people of past experiences.
Honestly, I wager most people yelling scam just like drama. Nothing about this seems unreasonable as far as group buys are concerned. Jaxx set up high standards and failed to meet them. That's on him and it's okay that we're disappointed. But the disrespect some people are reacting with is a lot more disappointing. Calling people simps for still supporting Jaxx? I don't have words for that kind of person. I completely understand why Jaxx is limiting his interactions with us, even without the legal advise to do so.
I very rarely type things like this because I actively try not to be hostile but I'm also not going to sit here and not defend myself while you double down on childish insults, so you can take whatever bs you're directing at me with your refund and **** right off
i dont know if that goes against gh terms, so maybe this will be removed but i have no interest in being belittled by this child who is no longer part of the groupbuy
So people complained that Jaxx wasn't updating enough, which was fair - but the moment he updates, yall **** on him for not giving more?
I get what you are saying but there hasn’t been a single update on the actual keyboards since he posted pictures nearly 5 months ago in early May. In any group buy, you would expect some kind of significant updates after 4-5 months. I personally think that Jaxx hasn’t run off with the money, he just bit off more than he could chew by moving the production in-house and it spiraled out of control. Polycarbonate has high failure rates and taking the manufacturing in-house in the middle of production was likely the wrong call. There are risks for joining a group buy but Jaxx introduced unnecessary risk by taking on the manufacturing himself. Not only that, it’s a bit of a red flag that even Gondo had to speak up and talk about the PCB fitment issues.
I get it. The community loves drama. If Jaxx actually provided weekly updates like he promised a long time ago and said things will be better, there would be less drama. A lot of us have given him multiple chances to earn or keep our trust as a group buy runner. There was even supposed to be a stream of a Rukia R2 being built but that never happened. Where are the owners of the Rukias that were shipped out in May? It’s been a long streak of false promises that causes drama like this.
I get what you are saying but there hasn’t been a single update on the actual keyboards since he posted pictures nearly 5 months ago in early May. In any group buy, you would expect some kind of significant updates after 4-5 months. I personally think that Jaxx hasn’t run off with the money, he just bit off more than he could chew by moving the production in-house and it spiraled out of control. Polycarbonate has high failure rates and taking the manufacturing in-house in the middle of production was likely the wrong call. There are risks for joining a group buy but Jaxx introduced unnecessary risk by taking on the manufacturing himself. Not only that, it’s a bit of a red flag that even Gondo had to speak up and talk about the PCB fitment issues.
I get it. The community loves drama. If Jaxx actually provided weekly updates like he promised a long time ago and said things will be better, there would be less drama. A lot of us have given him multiple chances to earn or keep our trust as a group buy runner. There was even supposed to be a stream of a Rukia R2 being built but that never happened. Where are the owners of the Rukias that were shipped out in May? It’s been a long streak of false promises that causes drama like this.
I agree with you, and I'm definitely disappointed that he didn't fulfil his various promises. I think calling him out on it is perfectly reasonable.
But at the end of the day, we always have to remember - its a group buy organized by one dude. It gets overwhelming, especially when things do not go as expected. It only takes a little bit of empathy to see how running a GB can be a rollercoaster of emotions. You queue everything up, order everything, bam - massive shipping delays. Bam, something is off-spec and needs to re-enter the manufacturing queue. Bam, something tripled in price. Just when you think you're finally catching up, bam, something else goes wrong.
And realistically, as participants of GBs, we should know and understand that this is a possibility, and not only just a possibility, but a likely scenario. Most GBs are delayed for one reason or another.
The 'community' in this group buy has been the weirdest in the sense that it has been the most aggressive I've seen in a long time. It really feels like there are some people here who is trying to incite unrest. It really feels like - and still feels like, there are some people who are just out to get him. Or they're treating the Rukia like an investment and they thought they could make a quick buck reselling it and are upset that it is anything but quick.
In other GBs with delays, the community is generally supportive - "Worry about your own health first", "No worries, it's just a keyboard!", "No one NEEDs this keyboard, take your time to get it right!".
With this, people have been screaming and demanding proof (on discord) that far exceeds what is typically expected way before the original deadlines.
I'm not trying to defend Jaxx's actions or anything. I'm just saying have a bit of empathy because while it is just $400-600 to us (and it is really "just", because anything but "just" is just a bad financial decision, really, it is "just" a keyboard), it's Jaxx's life and livelihood. He's the one sacrificing time, health, and at this point, probably money, to get us our boards. Have a bit of empathy and realize that screaming negativity (not directed at you) does no one any good, and ultimately makes things worse.
I get what you are saying but there hasn’t been a single update on the actual keyboards since he posted pictures nearly 5 months ago in early May. In any group buy, you would expect some kind of significant updates after 4-5 months. I personally think that Jaxx hasn’t run off with the money, he just bit off more than he could chew by moving the production in-house and it spiraled out of control. Polycarbonate has high failure rates and taking the manufacturing in-house in the middle of production was likely the wrong call. There are risks for joining a group buy but Jaxx introduced unnecessary risk by taking on the manufacturing himself. Not only that, it’s a bit of a red flag that even Gondo had to speak up and talk about the PCB fitment issues.
I get it. The community loves drama. If Jaxx actually provided weekly updates like he promised a long time ago and said things will be better, there would be less drama. A lot of us have given him multiple chances to earn or keep our trust as a group buy runner. There was even supposed to be a stream of a Rukia R2 being built but that never happened. Where are the owners of the Rukias that were shipped out in May? It’s been a long streak of false promises that causes drama like this.
I agree with you, and I'm definitely disappointed that he didn't fulfil his various promises. I think calling him out on it is perfectly reasonable.
But at the end of the day, we always have to remember - its a group buy organized by one dude. It gets overwhelming, especially when things do not go as expected. It only takes a little bit of empathy to see how running a GB can be a rollercoaster of emotions. You queue everything up, order everything, bam - massive shipping delays. Bam, something is off-spec and needs to re-enter the manufacturing queue. Bam, something tripled in price. Just when you think you're finally catching up, bam, something else goes wrong.
And realistically, as participants of GBs, we should know and understand that this is a possibility, and not only just a possibility, but a likely scenario. Most GBs are delayed for one reason or another.
The 'community' in this group buy has been the weirdest in the sense that it has been the most aggressive I've seen in a long time. It really feels like there are some people here who is trying to incite unrest. It really feels like - and still feels like, there are some people who are just out to get him. Or they're treating the Rukia like an investment and they thought they could make a quick buck reselling it and are upset that it is anything but quick.
In other GBs with delays, the community is generally supportive - "Worry about your own health first", "No worries, it's just a keyboard!", "No one NEEDs this keyboard, take your time to get it right!".
With this, people have been screaming and demanding proof (on discord) that far exceeds what is typically expected way before the original deadlines.
I'm not trying to defend Jaxx's actions or anything. I'm just saying have a bit of empathy because while it is just $400-600 to us (and it is really "just", because anything but "just" is just a bad financial decision, really, it is "just" a keyboard), it's Jaxx's life and livelihood. He's the one sacrificing time, health, and at this point, probably money, to get us our boards. Have a bit of empathy and realize that screaming negativity (not directed at you) does no one any good, and ultimately makes things worse.
So people complained that Jaxx wasn't updating enough, which was fair - but the moment he updates, yall **** on him for not giving more?
The reality is, there IS NO board. And if there is ever going to be one, it's probably not another year away because clearly, Jaxx has barely even started on anything.
At that point, this board isn't even worth having for the way the group buy patrons have been treated. You'll be owning something forged from a 2 year+ dumpster fire, which isn't exactly good pedigree.
To others, not you because you're hopeless: Stop the disrespect and this nonsense, do all you can to get a chargeback, and get YOUR MONEY back. If the board materializes, buy it then in the year 2030. If not, you have your money and can move on with life and other boards that actually deliver.
Except he didn't actually give an update about the board that people bought. He just shifted the blame and played the victim card to buy himself more time. Stop simping for a guy who took tens, even hundreds of thousands of dollars from people and doesn't even have proof the boards exist. This group buy will either ship in 2054 or end up just being a scam, so I would get out if you still can.
Things are stalled right now for several reasons, including-but-not-limited-to the following:
-2 separate CNC crashes
-shoulder injury
-working overtime on a contract job to fund continuing with Rukia
Someone is not getting a point here.
People who joined GB are not angry BC it's been delayed. Most of the people understand delays, it happens.
Most of the people in keyboard community understands the process of GB and doesn't easily gets this angry, just because it's being delayed.
We are fxxking angry, because he does not provide a single definitive evidence, that GB is happening.
Have you ever seen a GB that runs for this long, with no regular updates, ghosting and NO DEFINITIVE EVIDENCE?
We are not fxxking angry about delays and the the risk that we have to take as a GB.
This just looks like a scam.
Have you ever seen a GB that runs for this long, with no regular updates, ghosting and NO DEFINITIVE EVIDENCE?
Lyra. Lynx L50. Lumina, Exent maybe
The reality is, there IS NO board. And if there is ever going to be one, it's probably not another year away because clearly, Jaxx has barely even started on anything.
At that point, this board isn't even worth having for the way the group buy patrons have been treated. You'll be owning something forged from a 2 year+ dumpster fire, which isn't exactly good pedigree.To others, not you because you're hopeless: Stop the disrespect and this nonsense, do all you can to get a chargeback, and get YOUR MONEY back. If the board materializes, buy it then in the year 2030. If not, you have your money and can move on with life and other boards that actually deliver.Except he didn't actually give an update about the board that people bought. He just shifted the blame and played the victim card to buy himself more time. Stop simping for a guy who took tens, even hundreds of thousands of dollars from people and doesn't even have proof the boards exist. This group buy will either ship in 2054 or end up just being a scam, so I would get out if you still can.
Lol @ people saying the exact same things. But at least some people get it.
Updates cost $00.00.
Jaxx sees himself as a victim. Every bit of communication is designed to make the reader feel sorry for him.
"grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand... son / or daughter, i need you to monitor geekhack for rukia r2 updates.. its already been 69 years and 420 days past since jaxx sent us a last update. i leave this in my dying will that you need to read the update. it is imperative that you do."
"but granpappy, we're facing a global crises and with World War V, world's plastic and MCU shortage still prevalent.. im not sure the project is still going on."
"i believe blindly that it is still going on. With the last update sent on year Apollo UC0093 (yes we changed it after World War IV), jaxx still says its going on."
didn't you say you got your chargeback already? why you still in here dawg?
didn't you say you got your chargeback already? why you still in here dawg?
To help lead infertile, moist individuals like yourself to the light. I pushed for chargebacks, and it worked, and it was the only thing that elicited a response, and our only defense from being scammed blind. There are still lost little sheep in here, like yourself, that I will continue the fight for.
Follow papi and you won't be wrong - because I haven't been AT ALL so far.
Have you ever seen a GB that runs for this long, with no regular updates, ghosting and NO DEFINITIVE EVIDENCE?
Lyra. Lynx L50. Lumina, Exent maybe
Tell me you’re 13 years old without telling me you’re 13 years old. Go buy Fortnite skins with your chargeback money, fearless leader. I’m quite alright without you fighting for me.didn't you say you got your chargeback already? why you still in here dawg?
To help lead infertile, moist individuals like yourself to the light. I pushed for chargebacks, and it worked, and it was the only thing that elicited a response, and our only defense from being scammed blind. There are still lost little sheep in here, like yourself, that I will continue the fight for.
Follow papi and you won't be wrong - because I haven't been AT ALL so far.
Have you ever seen a GB that runs for this long, with no regular updates, ghosting and NO DEFINITIVE EVIDENCE?
Lyra. Lynx L50. Lumina, Exent maybe
Add Ave, Mech27v2, everything from Woodkeys
Tell me you’re 13 years old without telling me you’re 13 years old. Go buy Fortnite skins with your chargeback money, fearless leader. I’m quite alright without you fighting for me.didn't you say you got your chargeback already? why you still in here dawg?
To help lead infertile, moist individuals like yourself to the light. I pushed for chargebacks, and it worked, and it was the only thing that elicited a response, and our only defense from being scammed blind. There are still lost little sheep in here, like yourself, that I will continue the fight for.
Follow papi and you won't be wrong - because I haven't been AT ALL so far.
Have you ever seen a GB that runs for this long, with no regular updates, ghosting and NO DEFINITIVE EVIDENCE?
Lyra. Lynx L50. Lumina, Exent maybe
Add Ave, Mech27v2, everything from Woodkeys
Aren't you guys just strengthening yhehdgjs's point? None of them delivered properly or at all. So, technically they weren't GBs, which is what they are claiming in their message.
didn't you say you got your chargeback already? why you still in here dawg?
To help lead infertile, moist individuals like yourself to the light. I pushed for chargebacks, and it worked, and it was the only thing that elicited a response, and our only defense from being scammed blind. There are still lost little sheep in here, like yourself, that I will continue the fight for.
Follow papi and you won't be wrong - because I haven't been AT ALL so far.
Did you know you have the option to ask the runner to reinvoice at 6 months to continue your protection? If they refuse to that's an easy disputa eand no sweat getting your money back. Charge backing with a CC should be done before a year, and by that point the runner has no excuse not to have production units. This is information and guidelines that should be law that the hobby follows, rather than ending up with multiple disasters like this a yet. Runs like this aren't community focused, they're a business and should be treated as such.
Hey Jaxx, could you please just send us a picture of what you have?
Curious but how many Rukias got sold in total?
Thats the point, they are giving past examples of the same behavior happening in this buy. M27v2 at least had update photos and told everyone the situation, but when he needed to redo half the boards he said he couldn't pay for it and then ghosted everyone while working on holy pandas with drop in the background.
Have you ever seen a GB that runs for this long, with no regular updates, ghosting and NO DEFINITIVE EVIDENCE?
Lyra. Lynx L50. Lumina, Exent maybe
Add Ave, Mech27v2, everything from Woodkeys
Aren't you guys just strengthening yhehdgjs's point? None of them delivered properly or at all. So, technically they weren't GBs, which is what they are claiming in their message.
When did we get ice cream?Sorry, the ice cream from said machine is of the SCIF variety. Meaning you, as a paying customer won't be seeing or getting any. ;D
Did anything ever materialize from this?The only thing that materialized from this GB was an ice cream machine.Show Image(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/720499738864123954/889016474969190410/image0.jpg)
(Sep 18th update for LE/SE referenced from kronograf's post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105770.msg3083165#msg3083165))
Did anything ever materialize from this?Show Image(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/720499738864123954/889016474969190410/image0.jpg)
(Sep 18th update for LE/SE referenced from kronograf's post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105770.msg3083165#msg3083165))
I noticed today that Rain's update post on 2/16/2021 (https://i.imgur.com/gIdlckv.png) has since been removed from #updates (https://i.imgur.com/ulUe3QR.png). I don't even see Rain in the server anymore.
I'm not familiar with this person, but maybe someone else is. Does anyone know how to contact them?
Can Rain come forth and explain why they deleted their post and left the server in silence?
Or - if this was Jaxx's doing instead - can Jaxx come explain why he deleted the post and kicked Rain from the server, and why he didn't tell anyone about it?
I would assume this is a private issue between Jaxx and Rain, and I wouldn't expect you'll get an answer by jumping to conclusions like that.
I would assume this is a private issue between Jaxx and Rain, and I wouldn't expect you'll get an answer by jumping to conclusions like that.
To what conclusion are you referring? What I said was factual: The post was removed. I don't see Rain in the server anymore. Neither Jaxx nor Rain disclosed any of this in any way.
A private issue between the two doesn't justify silently removing an update post at the expense of the customers, further reducing transparency in a GB that is already sorely without it.
Jaxx was already caught stealth-editing update posts (https://i.imgur.com/eTLnOfU.png) to make it look like he hadn't promised certain deadlines. He's locked down entire channels like #rukia to make it impossible for anyone to cross-reference important pieces of information. Now we're seeing older posts disappearing without any mention.
It's possible there's an innocent explanation for this one. But regardless of the cause, considering the track record here I think some skepticism is warranted, and someone should explain what happened.
Your conclusion that Rain is somehow actually involved instead of a glorified community manager caught in the crossfire. This is not a productive discussion, your tone probably makes both of them want to explain their side even less, and most importantly, the relevancy of that update is long since dead. What does it matter that some status and estimates are gone? Save your breath.
Am I mistaken?
Curious but how many Rukias got sold in total?
From https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105770.msg3046185#msg3046185 Jaxx mentions "Totals: SE (30) + LE (10) + PC (310) + ~30% =500"
For the record that rain is not me
So I'm assuming Gondo or no one else has received any actual updates? I've been contacting Jaxx for my refund consistently, which he agreed to give back in July, but has yet to follow up on it. Unfortunately, I am unable to get a charge back. All I want is a refund because at this point, it feels like I am a hostage in this GB.We are all hostages in the SCIF.
I sat down and read the entire thread; very interesting and sad at the same time. Hope everyone gets out of this one aliveYou can get out, but the money stays :-\
When I asked for advice from my lawyer and doctor, I was advised to stop all one to one and online communication, even with friends, and put out updates as things actually progress.
Yah its pretty freaking hilarious the claims jaxx has made in retrospect. Even if the boards were delivered perfectly from China, we still wouldn't have them because of these phantom PCBs!
lmao meanwhile other alice GBs are getting delivered every other month.
Funny how that works.
Ya know, it’s kinda funny that the last straw for Jaxx using a Chinese manufacturer and taking legal action against them was a 3 month delay and some shipping issues. But people start complaining that 1.5 years later we have no pictures of finished boards that were shipped? “Whoaaaaaa cmon relax it’s fine they’re coming just meme this and remember ice cream machine? I love rukia?? Good times, good times.”
lol I forgot about aluminum tops. Didn’t even get a bullet point smh. Man y’all remember November 2020 was when we first thought they were coming? Kinda wild that PCB design wasn’t even finalized and that was the projected date. Really makes you wonder….
TL;DR for mta’s post: Jaxx is a serial liar and you aren’t getting your board.
Hey anyone want to buy my spot lol just testing the water?ill take it for one fiddy
Hey anyone want to buy my spot lol just testing the water?I'll buy that for a dollar
Wtb someones spot.
$150
Wtb someones spot.
$150
I'll trade you my gskt-00 spot for your Rukia r2 spot.
Wtb someones spot.
$150
Wtb someones spot.
$150
"hE Is NoT sTuPiD, hE iS TruStEd MeMbEr oF tHe cOmMuNity" This aged well. Fr though everyone should just cop an Amano. R2 will have o ring and frosted color + itll be in stock.
BunnyLake 2.0
Also how is a post from that guy still pinned.
"hE Is NoT sTuPiD, hE iS TruStEd MeMbEr oF tHe cOmMuNity" This aged well. Fr though everyone should just cop an Amano. R2 will have o ring and frosted color + itll be in stock.
I was one of the people that said that and its still not untrue. No one could've predicted this outcome, especially since he was very visible before and delivered.
Unfortunate, and I agree with the buy Amano part.
I've been told by a few people that the previous post was a little too tl;dr-ish -- so I'll summarize the biggest points as best I can (while the timeline and all the nitty-gritty details are still fresh in my head).
Jaxx, please correct me if I am wrong on any of this:
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-You quit your job in late 2019 (https://i.imgur.com/5fxVmq0.png) (that wasn't paying enough (https://i.imgur.com/BVTyp9U.png)) in order to switch gears to Mint Autumn full-time - your wife later quit her job as well, at some point in 2020 (https://i.imgur.com/7mOB7u5.png). So you're already down two incomes during this GB from early on.
-Shortly after the R2 GB ended in May 2020, you paid an overseas manufacturer for 500 boards (https://i.imgur.com/BTm4eDG.png) with the crowdfunded money for R2 and was quoted a delivery time of August/September 2020. In the meantime, you had taken out two business loans (https://i.imgur.com/eWKnEyN.png) so you could finance an UHMWPE injection molding setup for a planned R3 run (https://i.imgur.com/l09qJh4.png) in January 2021 (https://i.imgur.com/VK4Wv54.png) right after R2 was expected to finish.
-The R2 GB itself was priced on the assumption of using this overseas manu, which was not priced high enough (https://i.imgur.com/qSoCbPq.png) to leave any overhead or profit as-it-was.
-And yet, in response to a boat-shipping delay from that overseas manu involving a partial batch of 150 keyboards, on 12/12/2020 (https://i.imgur.com/KcmvPKo.png) you opted to take on an even more difficult and costly option of making the boards yourself without any kind of stated refund or halted/stopped production from the manu -- with your reason for this shift being that you wanted to get people their boards sooner.
-You mentioned that the in-house Rukia R2 production was financed via those business loans (https://i.imgur.com/ng55CLW.png) (which you still have to pay back - with interest - using additional funding outside of R2), but again those had been already slated/allocated for making products out of UHMWPE for R3 which was no longer running and therefore not bringing in revenue.
-You claim to be taking on extra contract work (https://i.imgur.com/r0ub1aH.png) (creating stuff using the same machines you're using for Rukia) in order to pay for the equipment leases, building leases, electricity, and material costs involved in the in-house production of these boards - in other words, you are claiming to be financing all the production of all these boards yourself out of pocket.
-At some point after March 2021, you opted to get a lawyer involved (https://i.imgur.com/1HwzSiq.png) to take on the herculean, expensive, and effectively impossible (https://harrisbricken.com/practice-areas/china-litigation-and-arbitration/) task of pursuing legal action against an overseas manufacturer to seek compensation (https://i.imgur.com/cN6Uwfc.png) for "money lost while waiting" for the boat shipment (https://i.imgur.com/JUlo4xS.png). You also say this meant no more production from the manufacturer, but didn't mention if there was any kind of partial refund for units not yet produced. It also calls into question why you didn't ask to stop production months prior.
-You also claim that the overseas shipment was damaged by box-cutters at customs (https://i.imgur.com/ywnfIb8.png). But you won't share any pics or talk about what happened (https://i.imgur.com/r8EGI0U.png).
-And you claim to be making and storing these keyboards in a SCIF (https://i.imgur.com/TqZlrbY.png) where you can barely even take pictures - a SCIF that slipped your mind when you moved in (https://i.imgur.com/grTyTfo.png) and when you were talking about streaming your in-house CNC process (https://i.imgur.com/DYHJ0em.png) previously.
-Back in May 2021 (https://i.imgur.com/zHOm6Yr.png) you had quoted a 2 week ETA to begin shipping. Things were apparently very close to completion, implying that somehow there were tons of boards + PCBs ready to go.
-But as it turns out, you never actually got around to prototyping/ordering PCBs as of June 2021 (https://i.imgur.com/oZotz34.png) - even later as of August 2021 (https://i.imgur.com/Mnu0dcl.png) (which calls into question the numerous (https://i.imgur.com/RJ1R2w7.png) ETAs (https://i.imgur.com/K3gUd67.png) you (https://i.imgur.com/cOMQ44q.png) released (https://i.imgur.com/TWWi9yT.png) over (https://i.imgur.com/FbRxRCH.png) time (https://i.imgur.com/zHOm6Yr.png) prior to that, stretching way back to late 2020).
-As of today (10/27/2021), roughly 1.5 years into this GB, there's been no real or substantial physical evidence that anything exists as-claimed. Overseas boards, in-house boards, PCBs, the kits supposedly sent to a few customers (https://i.imgur.com/6ZoAW8I.png), etc.
I need to contact Jacks to change my order from an aluminum plate to brass plate, is it too late to do this at this stage?
I need to contact Jacks to change my order from an aluminum plate to brass plate, is it too late to do this at this stage?
LOL. U think Jaxx could do that right now?
"just buy something else it's that simple guys"
"just buy something else it's that simple guys"
I did this lol. I bought a pc samice. It's filled the rukia sized hole in my collection but not the $400 hole in my wallet :(
I love my samice though. It sounds great and I love how it actually exists.
How are people even getting chargebacks on this? Maybe I should switch banks.
Found this gem (Jan 2021) while I was freeing up some storage on my phone. The last line gave me a hearty chuckle ;D also forgot how much of a d!ck dude was before it really came crashing down lolShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/J2iqqSB.jpg)
Good PSA tho for new/future lurkers: any groupbuy runner (or “keyboard manufacturer” :rolleyes:) that can’t return the same level of trust their customers put into them (when they send money to a fckn stranger expecting nothing for at least several months) should be absolutely avoided. Red flag 100% should’ve tried a charged back right then.
Found this gem (Jan 2021) while I was freeing up some storage on my phone. The last line gave me a hearty chuckle ;D also forgot how much of a d!ck dude was before it really came crashing down lolI guess if he thinks changing out a tool bit on a CNC which should take 10 minutes at most is a major source of delay taking a picture would be alsoShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/J2iqqSB.jpg)
Good PSA tho for new/future lurkers: any groupbuy runner (or “keyboard manufacturer” :rolleyes:) that can’t return the same level of trust their customers put into them (when they send money to a fckn stranger expecting nothing for at least several months) should be absolutely avoided. Red flag 100% should’ve tried a charged back right then.
Found this gem (Jan 2021) while I was freeing up some storage on my phone. The last line gave me a hearty chuckle ;D also forgot how much of a d!ck dude was before it really came crashing down lolShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/J2iqqSB.jpg)
Good PSA tho for new/future lurkers: any groupbuy runner (or “keyboard manufacturer” :rolleyes:) that can’t return the same level of trust their customers put into them (when they send money to a fckn stranger expecting nothing for at least several months) should be absolutely avoided. Red flag 100% should’ve tried a charged back right then.
Depending on your credit card company, you can still dispute the charge. If the merchant hasn't even shipped the goods it can probably be qualified as fraud. Before you contest the charge send Joshua Jackson an email. If you've lost it, the reply email for your order is josh.lee.jackson@gmail.com. Give him a reasonable amount of time to respond. 48 hours, or 2 business days, depending on how graceful you're feeling. This is essentially not so you can get him to respond, it's to establish that you've tried to resolve the dispute with the merchant. He'll of course not respond because of whatever bull**** excuse he's peddling these days. Then contact your CC company. They'll want proof and conveniently you have it. Just got my funds back today.Kudos for helping folks getting their money back
N e tips for getting back PP credit lol
I think that at this point all you can do is take him to court. Too much time has passed for credit cards or PP to get involved. If PayPal allowed disputes this long after a sale, it would be chaos. They won’t do it simply because too many people would use it to scam sellers.
If enough of you band together and find a lawyer, you might get *something* back. Fear of legal action is usually enough to get people to settle out of court. Otherwise, you’re SOL
I was able to open a claim dispute with Bank of America credit card over the phone and it is processing with claims now..., fingers crossed for a refund. It was incredibly easy. They asked what product I had paid for and why the delay. Explained it was a product pre-order to be delivered a year from payment and kept getting delayed. So hopefully it was enough information. They will "investigate" hopefully the 404 page helps and doesn't hurt the process.
What's crazy is I opened it on Saturday Nov. 27th and the mintautumn.com website was still up showing Preorder over for Rukia etc.
As of today Nov. 29 mintautumn.com has a 404 error. I started taking some web archive screenshots. If theres an easy way to save discord screenshots, it would be good too. I'm going to document in case I need to provide further information.
I was able to open a claim dispute with Bank of America credit card over the phone and it is processing with claims now..., fingers crossed for a refund. It was incredibly easy. They asked what product I had paid for and why the delay. Explained it was a product pre-order to be delivered a year from payment and kept getting delayed. So hopefully it was enough information. They will "investigate" hopefully the 404 page helps and doesn't hurt the process.
What's crazy is I opened it on Saturday Nov. 27th and the mintautumn.com website was still up showing Preorder over for Rukia etc.
As of today Nov. 29 mintautumn.com has a 404 error. I started taking some web archive screenshots. If theres an easy way to save discord screenshots, it would be good too. I'm going to document in case I need to provide further information.
Wise thing to do is to store this stuff in a cloud somewhere, and not just randomly attached to a GH post.
GB from a user with a proven track record of delivering
I wonder who did, and for what reason deleted my post with links to the PUBLIC LLC registrations documents for this guys company?
Anyone who wants them, just drop me a PM as it seams someone doesn't want that information easily available here..
I wonder who did, and for what reason deleted my post with links to the PUBLIC LLC registrations documents for this guys company?
Anyone who wants them, just drop me a PM as it seams someone doesn't want that information easily available here..
Not a mod, but doxxing is illegal and posting people's personal details is not allowed on GH, even if publicly available. This is a pretty standard rule on basically every website.
If you want to take action against Jaxx, posting in this thread isn't the way to do it. Either hire a lawyer or don't, but remember posting never solved anything. Often, the first question you get asked by a lawyer is "why did you wait to file?" It has a significant bearing on the outcome. Either way, I figured someone in this thread would have done something by now, but it's incredibly sad to watch y'all flounder in the secret hope that you'll one day get your boards.
You can also try filing with IC3 (https://www.ic3.gov/). This will take an age, but I think it has a better likelihood of a positive outcome for a larger number of people, but many of you will have to file.
At first it was a funny bit to watch this thread devolve, but now it's just so, so sad.
This entire thread should be a must-read for anyone entering GB for the first time.
https://imgur.com/a/H5PFnoW
i see where he got the idea for this now /s
https://imgur.com/a/H5PFnoW
i see where he got the idea for this now /s
And LOL at all of the esteemed individuals a few pages back in this thread that still believed, with every might in their little hearts, that this was fine and refused to even try to get a chargeback. It's okay, maybe we could hold a BBQ fundraiser for you since you slept ;D
And LOL at all of the esteemed individuals a few pages back in this thread that still believed, with every might in their little hearts, that this was fine and refused to even try to get a chargeback. It's okay, maybe we could hold a BBQ fundraiser for you since you slept ;D
I believe this comment to be of poor taste. Given how the past couple of years have gone, it's normal to give the benefit of the doubt. Granted the situation seems to be a lot clearer now, you could just say hindsight is 20:20.
And LOL at all of the esteemed individuals a few pages back in this thread that still believed, with every might in their little hearts, that this was fine and refused to even try to get a chargeback. It's okay, maybe we could hold a BBQ fundraiser for you since you slept ;D
I believe this comment to be of poor taste. Given how the past couple of years have gone, it's normal to give the benefit of the doubt. Granted the situation seems to be a lot clearer now, you could just say hindsight is 20:20.
I agree that the comment was of poor taste. I was one of the people who still believed and defended Jaxx. I was one of those who said "I love Rukia." I believed all this because Jaxx was a reputable designer who delivered on the previous rounds. His board was even supported/advocated by pretty big content creators. It's a very sh!tty situation and there's def no need in people saying things like "Well, those geniuses can happily ride this dumpster fire into the ground now, because they have no other choice." That's some aggressive/negative BS that we don't need right now
Update on dispute with my CC. No go. The limit according to the claims dept is 540 days so it was quite a bit of time but it ended back in October for me. So there’s no way they could even get money back from Mint Autumn bank according to them. At this point I just wait and hope it fulfills. I got the Alu top too lol so that’s more $$ possibly gone. I am happy I got a update on GSKT-00 though lol these two GB have not been very fun. Cheers all have a nice holiday.on both gskt and rukia. unlucky fam
Anyone know where I can find the official information on Mint Autumn?
I need it for my bank
Anyone know where I can find the official information on Mint Autumn?
I need it for my bank
Google.
Anyone know where I can find the official information on Mint Autumn?
I need it for my bank
Google.
Another GB. Another thread of your... antics. If you put as much effort into helping people with their questions as you do in these threads, maybe there'd be enough purchasing power to warrant your charity auctions.
The irony.Anyone know where I can find the official information on Mint Autumn?
I need it for my bank
Google.
Another GB. Another thread of your... antics. If you put as much effort into helping people with their questions as you do in these threads, maybe there'd be enough purchasing power to warrant your charity auctions.
Jaxx is still lurking around fyi - a few days ago he messaged me on discord trying to sell something.
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Jaxx is still lurking around fyi - a few days ago he messaged me on discord trying to sell something.
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I figured he was still lurking & just watching his rep go down in flames. Honestly at this point it's not even about the money, I've wrote the almost $500 I lost off a long time ago, I just want to see Jaxx man up & let us know what really went wrong. The fact he hasn't done so yet & is just letting the situation sit on his BS "Rukia will be finished" quote speaks volumes to me about how dude really is. No matter how bad I've ****ed up in my life (& trust me I've ****ed up a lot) I've at least had the decency & balls to own up to whatever dumb **** I did........
Have there been any other group buys where literally nothing was delivered like this?You mean if anyone else then Jax has stolen $300k from keyboard enthusiasts that put their trust in him and then hidden like a coward?
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Have there been any other group buys where literally nothing was delivered like this?
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You mean if anyone else then Jax has stolen $300k from keyboard enthusiasts that put their trust in him and then hidden like a coward?
You give 500 dollars for a good that's never delivered.You mean if anyone else then Jax has stolen $300k from keyboard enthusiasts that put their trust in him and then hidden like a coward?
I actually don't think he stole the money.
The following is partially speculation on my part, but I think it's a reasonable guess / a place to start:
According to Gondo's post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105770.msg3061167#msg3061167), there were issues such as the connector on the PK PCB and a capacitor on the Mechlovin PCB leading to clearance issues in the case design. There was a GB for the Alice PCB rev 2 from PK (https://www.reddit.com/user/projectkeyboard/comments/e35uwh/gb_alice_pcb_rev2_plates/) and a GB for the Adelais PCB from Mechlovin (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105361.0) which both delivered around the time Jaxx was running/winding down his GB. On his GB page (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105770.msg2889532#msg2889532) Jaxx said that Rukia will fit USB-C and USB-mini PCBs as long as the USB is top-mounted. Meanwhile, for example, the PK Alice PCB rev 2 uses a bottom-mounted USB-C. So Gondo's post makes a lot of sense to me, assuming this is the kind of issue being referenced here.
So it seems likely to me that Jaxx made a mistake with the design he sent the manu and realized it too late. I think it's why he wanted to go "in-house" - to fix the overseas boards himself so he could make a recovery and avoid the difficult act of disclosing a mistake. I think this is why he held off on ordering PCBs back in 2020. But he would have needed time to fix the boards. But hey, lucky break: boat delay.
Except I think he found that it was way more difficult and time-consuming than anticipated to modify and refinish all those boards in a way that was consistent with the original texture (as he later said something similar to #special-edition). He wouldn't have been able to explain why the "overseas" boards would look like that in the end, having boxed himself in with his earlier explanation. But hey, lucky break: boxcutters.
But that leaves the rest of the in-house stuff. The next thing in line is the PCB, though he tried to focus on component availability issues. You'd think if you ran into PCB problems like that, you'd reach out to your PCB guy and take the far less-drastic route, but nope. Straight to removing material and refinishing. Except I don't think he considered that such an excuse would contradict all his past ETAs and alert Gondo.
This is suck a fked up gb, is Jaxx still not giving any kind of news and having his discord locked up?
I want my Rukia
I want my Rukia
How about a Rikia ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VHpg6Ph.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/hxbO2E6.jpg)
I want my Rukia
How about a Rikia ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VHpg6Ph.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/hxbO2E6.jpg)
I want my Rukia
How about a Rikia ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VHpg6Ph.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/hxbO2E6.jpg)
I want my Rukia
How about a Rikia ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VHpg6Ph.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/hxbO2E6.jpg)
I want my Rukia
How about a Rikia ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VHpg6Ph.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/hxbO2E6.jpg)
I want my Rukia
How about a Rikia ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VHpg6Ph.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/hxbO2E6.jpg)
In Rik we trust.
He's not stupid. He's not dipping his hand in the ice cream machine to fund other gbs he wants to get in on.
How do I know? He told me.
Is he lying? While possible, it's HIGHLY improbable. Speak to anyone who knows Rik about his reputation within the hobby and you'll find he's one of the most honorable people within the community. Not only that, the potential repercussions of "short term gains" for him entering gbs -- with funds from Rikia is in the state it's in -- will have severe long term effects on himself, his business, and his family. I know for a fact that he wouldn't risk the livelihood of his family for getting a board he wants.
I want my Rukia
How about a Rikia ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VHpg6Ph.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/hxbO2E6.jpg)
I want my Rukia
How about a Rikia ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VHpg6Ph.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/hxbO2E6.jpg)
I want my Rukia
How about a Rikia ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VHpg6Ph.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/hxbO2E6.jpg)
I want my Rukia
How about a Rikia ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VHpg6Ph.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/hxbO2E6.jpg)
Okay so is this thread just a landing page to advertise other product now? zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Okay so is this thread just a landing page to advertise other product now? zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Danm, nice to see the Rukia on R2. Hope it does well!It's going quite excellently thank you for your support :thumb:
Any chance we can get a New Years/2022 update?
I want this if it comes with an ice cream machine.I want my Rukia
How about a Rikia ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VHpg6Ph.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/hxbO2E6.jpg)
All the people who asked for a R3 after the gb ended must feel lucky rn
I've spoken to an attorney about this. He believes that there is certainly a case here. With some very rough numbers, let's say there are 200 participants in this group buy and that the average cost per participant is somewhere around $300. That means that the total amount payed toGreat effort, I'm in! 👊🏻Weaston (Gray Industries, LLC via Shopify)MINTAUTUMN/Jaxxstatic was somewhere in the neighborhood of $60,000. There are a few options.
The attorney says that the group could bring a lawsuit and that the cost to do this, if all 200 group buy participants also participated in the lawsuit, would probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of $50 per participant. This probably isn't the first course of action to take, but is absolutely an option available to us and not something so astronomical as to be completely out of the realm of possibility.
Separate from a civil lawsuit, the attorney believes that taking $60,000 without delivering any product likely constitutes felony fraud. As such, we are going to begin a discussion with The Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services which, as far as we can tell, seems to be the appropriate department to take the first steps with.
My PMs are open for any questions. I do not yet need any personal information from anyone to continue moving forward. However, it would be helpful to start getting an idea about who's interested, and how much you spent on this GB, separate from this thread, just so these rough numbers can get slightly less rough. If either course above is to be taken, we'll need to offer evidence. It will also likely be possible for the attorneys to get this information from Shopify if a lawsuit is filed.
It is still my sincere hope thatWeastonJaxxstatic will simply do the right thing, expediently, and ship everyone's orders. I do not believe he has any malicious intent and do not savor the idea of having to take this to court. I think we all just want this to end with everyone as happy as is possible at this point.
/s
At this point I'd rather just forget about this in hopes that maybe some day it ships than **** on Jaxx over a potential $50 pay day.
I've spoken to an attorney about this. He believes that there is certainly a case here. With some very rough numbers, let's say there are 200 participants in this group buy and that the average cost per participant is somewhere around $300. That means that the total amount payed toWeaston (Gray Industries, LLC via Shopify)MINTAUTUMN/Jaxxstatic was somewhere in the neighborhood of $60,000. There are a few options.
The attorney says that the group could bring a lawsuit and that the cost to do this, if all 200 group buy participants also participated in the lawsuit, would probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of $50 per participant. This probably isn't the first course of action to take, but is absolutely an option available to us and not something so astronomical as to be completely out of the realm of possibility.
Separate from a civil lawsuit, the attorney believes that taking $60,000 without delivering any product likely constitutes felony fraud. As such, we are going to begin a discussion with The Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services which, as far as we can tell, seems to be the appropriate department to take the first steps with.
My PMs are open for any questions. I do not yet need any personal information from anyone to continue moving forward. However, it would be helpful to start getting an idea about who's interested, and how much you spent on this GB, separate from this thread, just so these rough numbers can get slightly less rough. If either course above is to be taken, we'll need to offer evidence. It will also likely be possible for the attorneys to get this information from Shopify if a lawsuit is filed.
It is still my sincere hope thatWeastonJaxxstatic will simply do the right thing, expediently, and ship everyone's orders. I do not believe he has any malicious intent and do not savor the idea of having to take this to court. I think we all just want this to end with everyone as happy as is possible at this point.
/s
At this point I'd rather just forget about this in hopes that maybe some day it ships than **** on Jaxx over a potential $50 pay day.
he said the lawsuit would cost roughly $50 per participant at 200 participants, not that each participant would receive $50
Think Jaxx will let me change my address again? I sold my spot and then bought it back cause my buyer didn't think this would ever deliver. I agreed with them and refunded them. All this cause I was hoping he would just cancel my order when he saw I was selling
Think Jaxx will let me change my address again? I sold my spot and then bought it back cause my buyer didn't think this would ever deliver. I agreed with them and refunded them. All this cause I was hoping he would just cancel my order when he saw I was selling
Think Jaxx will let me change my address again? I sold my spot and then bought it back cause my buyer didn't think this would ever deliver. I agreed with them and refunded them. All this cause I was hoping he would just cancel my order when he saw I was selling
Can't say for sure if he'll respond to you or not, but Jaxx has been lurking on Discord AFAIK. He hit up a few people not to long ago trying to sell some of his keeb/artisan collection. So I'd try him there first. Again, I have no ideal if he'll respond or not though.
I've spoken to an attorney about this. He believes that there is certainly a case here. With some very rough numbers, let's say there are 200 participants in this group buy and that the average cost per participant is somewhere around $300. That means that the total amount payed toyou're a legend, i'm inWeaston (Gray Industries, LLC via Shopify)MINTAUTUMN/Jaxxstatic was somewhere in the neighborhood of $60,000. There are a few options.
The attorney says that the group could bring a lawsuit and that the cost to do this, if all 200 group buy participants also participated in the lawsuit, would probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of $50 per participant. This probably isn't the first course of action to take, but is absolutely an option available to us and not something so astronomical as to be completely out of the realm of possibility.
Separate from a civil lawsuit, the attorney believes that taking $60,000 without delivering any product likely constitutes felony fraud. As such, we are going to begin a discussion with The Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services which, as far as we can tell, seems to be the appropriate department to take the first steps with.
My PMs are open for any questions. I do not yet need any personal information from anyone to continue moving forward. However, it would be helpful to start getting an idea about who's interested, and how much you spent on this GB, separate from this thread, just so these rough numbers can get slightly less rough. If either course above is to be taken, we'll need to offer evidence. It will also likely be possible for the attorneys to get this information from Shopify if a lawsuit is filed.
It is still my sincere hope thatWeastonJaxxstatic will simply do the right thing, expediently, and ship everyone's orders. I do not believe he has any malicious intent and do not savor the idea of having to take this to court. I think we all just want this to end with everyone as happy as is possible at this point.
/s
I just hope this guy is already pinpointed and blacklisted so he can't pull this off again.
Is there going to be extras?oh sweet summer child
Rukia is the most real endgame board, because you will be chasing it all your life, but you will never have it.
I've spoken to an attorney about this. He believes that there is certainly a case here. With some very rough numbers, let's say there are 200 participants in this group buy and that the average cost per participant is somewhere around $300. That means that the total amount payed toWeaston (Gray Industries, LLC via Shopify)MINTAUTUMN/Jaxxstatic was somewhere in the neighborhood of $60,000. There are a few options.
The attorney says that the group could bring a lawsuit and that the cost to do this, if all 200 group buy participants also participated in the lawsuit, would probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of $50 per participant. This probably isn't the first course of action to take, but is absolutely an option available to us and not something so astronomical as to be completely out of the realm of possibility.
Separate from a civil lawsuit, the attorney believes that taking $60,000 without delivering any product likely constitutes felony fraud. As such, we are going to begin a discussion with The Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services which, as far as we can tell, seems to be the appropriate department to take the first steps with.
My PMs are open for any questions. I do not yet need any personal information from anyone to continue moving forward. However, it would be helpful to start getting an idea about who's interested, and how much you spent on this GB, separate from this thread, just so these rough numbers can get slightly less rough. If either course above is to be taken, we'll need to offer evidence. It will also likely be possible for the attorneys to get this information from Shopify if a lawsuit is filed.
It is still my sincere hope thatWeastonJaxxstatic will simply do the right thing, expediently, and ship everyone's orders. I do not believe he has any malicious intent and do not savor the idea of having to take this to court. I think we all just want this to end with everyone as happy as is possible at this point.
/s
I remember a simpler time when I didn't join this disaster of a GB
i'll be making a small claims court case but will update people here on things I am able to share on the process.
I've spoken to an attorney about this. He believes that there is certainly a case here. With some very rough numbers, let's say there are 200 participants in this group buy and that the average cost per participant is somewhere around $300. That means that the total amount payed toWeaston (Gray Industries, LLC via Shopify)MINTAUTUMN/Jaxxstatic was somewhere in the neighborhood of $60,000. There are a few options.
The attorney says that the group could bring a lawsuit and that the cost to do this, if all 200 group buy participants also participated in the lawsuit, would probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of $50 per participant. This probably isn't the first course of action to take, but is absolutely an option available to us and not something so astronomical as to be completely out of the realm of possibility.
Separate from a civil lawsuit, the attorney believes that taking $60,000 without delivering any product likely constitutes felony fraud. As such, we are going to begin a discussion with The Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services which, as far as we can tell, seems to be the appropriate department to take the first steps with.
My PMs are open for any questions. I do not yet need any personal information from anyone to continue moving forward. However, it would be helpful to start getting an idea about who's interested, and how much you spent on this GB, separate from this thread, just so these rough numbers can get slightly less rough. If either course above is to be taken, we'll need to offer evidence. It will also likely be possible for the attorneys to get this information from Shopify if a lawsuit is filed.
It is still my sincere hope thatWeastonJaxxstatic will simply do the right thing, expediently, and ship everyone's orders. I do not believe he has any malicious intent and do not savor the idea of having to take this to court. I think we all just want this to end with everyone as happy as is possible at this point.
/s
Rukia 2077 ;D
Just a guy that sank money into 2 boards here, not being lazy to scroll through 19 pages of posts (and I have) but anyone here have any clue what's happening? And what's this about a blooming ice-cream machine?
Of corse. I don't think people are just letting him steal $500 and are fine with it.
There is still a tiny amount of hope that Jaxx is a decent person that has just made a collosal **** up and just refuses to own up for it before having something solid to show us.
I empathise with the person that I believe that he is.
Shall we start a scamees anonymous club
Do not expect an apology or explanation from Jaxx. It was really risky of The Royal to admit that he failed and that The Ave would not be fulfilled.
It might need a wrist brace, a great keyboard
It might need a wrist brace, a great keyboard
I think if you are going to spam to get your post count up, at least read the room in the threads you're in :thumb:
It might need a wrist brace, a great keyboard
I think if you are going to spam to get your post count up, at least read the room in the threads you're in :thumb:
He might have a point, you might need a wrist brace when typing on imaginary keyboards.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/YIpJyV2.png)
I do wonder if Jaxx came up with any good ice cream flavor combos?????
Rukia last batch gang where my homies at
Doubtless, this will be misconstrued and meme'd to hell and back, but here goes:
Misconceptions:
1. I ran with everyone's money.
2. I used the money to buy a CNC.
3. ice cream machine
Realities:
1. The money you spent on Rukia ALL went towards making Rukia
-Case manu in China plus extra for QC
- PCB design paid to Gondo **edit: Upas was kind enough to point me to Gondo, who already had an open source Alice style PCB in mind
-knobs
-encoders
-packaging
-shipping
-taxes
*The manu screwed up the first shipment after delaying for 3 months past when they estimated they could finish. The shipping and customs issues were the last straw.
*I opted to get a lawyer involved = no further production or shipments from the Chinese manu
*I started making the boards myself
2. NO money from Rukia was used for my other manufacturing business. It's actually the opposite. I got two business loans to set up being able to manufacture products out of UHMWPE.
Money from that has been used to try to salvage this group buy and get Rukias made.
3. It's a kitchen appliance--same size as a toaster oven.
Things are stalled right now for several reasons, including-but-not-limited-to the following:
-2 separate CNC crashes
-shoulder injury
-working overtime on a contract job to fund continuing with Rukia
Being silent started as just a break from trying to be cordial to people calling me names several times a day and telling me to kill myself, but then my mother in law was hospitalized and became septic (we thought she was dying), so I was busying figuring out where we would live, then had to take care of her and our care home for the elderly, etc.
After, I didn't have any time to do anything but work, take care of both my kids, my mother in law, etc.
When I asked for advice from my lawyer and doctor, I was advised to stop all one to one and online communication, even with friends, and put out updates as things actually progress.
For anyone that has sent an encouraging message: thank you.
For anyone that has tried to stay hopeful for this group buy: thank you.
For anyone that could not wait: I'm sorry. Thank you for waiting as long as you did.
Rukia will be finished.
I don't have a reliable ETA as of now, but as soon as I do, I'll let everyone know.
I don't have a reliable ETA as of now, but as soon as I do, I'll let everyone know.
Over/Under on Jaxx logging into his geekhack account in 2022?
So is this a good reason to not join GBs and only opt for in-stock only?
So is this a good reason to not join GBs and only opt for in-stock only?
So is this a good reason to not join GBs and only opt for in-stock only?
Is it a good reason to completely avoid GBs? I don't think so.
Lots of great keyboards have and will be sold through group buys and I don't think you should avoid designs you love just because you can't immediately have it. I think you should look for GBs that are running with reputable vendors and/or designers who have fulfilled multiple projects successfully in the past. I don't think it's fair to judge the whole GB format based on this one GB that went wrong because of the runner's incompetence.
While an in-stock drop is obviously safer in that the seller already has the units made and (hopefully) quality controlled, GBs can't be avoided for bigger runner-fulfilled projects like this one. Getting the keyboards and all the necessary parts made is a huge investment that most hobbyist runners aren't able to fund upfront. This is why when you see an in-stock board with more than 10-30 units it's sold by a vendor most, if not all of the time.
Not to say that in-stock boards don't come with their own issues. Remember the F2?
So is this a good reason to not join GBs and only opt for in-stock only?
Is it a good reason to completely avoid GBs? I don't think so.
Lots of great keyboards have and will be sold through group buys and I don't think you should avoid designs you love just because you can't immediately have it. I think you should look for GBs that are running with reputable vendors and/or designers who have fulfilled multiple projects successfully in the past. I don't think it's fair to judge the whole GB format based on this one GB that went wrong because of the runner's incompetence.
While an in-stock drop is obviously safer in that the seller already has the units made and (hopefully) quality controlled, GBs can't be avoided for bigger runner-fulfilled projects like this one. Getting the keyboards and all the necessary parts made is a huge investment that most hobbyist runners aren't able to fund upfront. This is why when you see an in-stock board with more than 10-30 units it's sold by a vendor most, if not all of the time.
Not to say that in-stock boards don't come with their own issues. Remember the F2?
Wasn't Jaxx a reputable designer who had already fulfilled a gb recently though? Iron 180 also comes to mind. Not saying you're wrong, but it's still a dice roll sometimes even with established sellers. I think best practice is to buy on a credit card for the buyer protection.
When did we get ice cream?
Jaxx last update said Rukia will be finished. I'm guessing before December.December 2022 lol jk
It's been a whole year since Jaxx last graced our eyes with his presence on this here website. I'm a big fan of recognizing milestones, I'm a big fan of doing some good in my community and I'm also a huge fan of ice cream like Jaxx.
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I made some stickers, if you want one, visit my post on my profile on reddit to see how to acquire one. To be clear, I'm getting $0.00 from this.
https://redd.it/xp68bw (https://redd.it/xp68bw)
I think most people here are simply expressing their disappointment in how unabashedly uncommunicative jaxx is. Memes and toxicity should be ignored, but don't confuse that for legitimate concern and justifiable anger.
Agreed. People being upset is justified. But given the recent rise in toxicity from people in the hobby over litereally EVERYTHING happening in gbs rn, I can see how this thread can quickly devolve into genuine pure toxicity rather than the few trolls who want to hide behind alts. Kind of a moot point anyway (at least from my perspective) seeing as how the only one who can quell the masses at this point is Jaxx.I generally agree that personal purchases shouldn't be confused for ignoring business needs but I can see where consumers come from in thinking that on one side of the coin he is saying "no more refunds," while simultaneously buying a brand new keyboard.
Wish everyone had the same mentality. Pointing at one purchase he made when he's been selling off a bunch of other things and claiming negligence is absurd. Updates aside, what he purchases has no relevance to the buy itself.Sure wish Jaxx would communicate with his customers like he does with you.
Yeah me too...I touched on reputation in a previous post. Prior to this debacle I would agree that his reputation would be considerably good and that you could trust that you'd get a keyboard in the end. Jaxx's inability to communicate when issues arise, when deadlines have passed, when again, customers, are led to believe that shipping would commence earlier this week but instead of sharing why, there's just deafening silence. Jaxx's reputation is not good right now.
Agreed. His rep is in the ****ter. Doesn't change the fact that he IS a good person. Then again, given how much **** I've gotten for just being a public figure in this buy, I don't really blame him for wanting to keep his head down...But that doesn't excuse the lack of updates or just general involvment in translating the status of the buy.So, if you do not agree with people voicing concern and understandable (as you say) anger, how would you prefer it happen? Customers have been trying to get some kind of information out of this whole thing and while toxic behavior may have led to the lockdown of the ability to send messages in Discord, it doesn't prevent Jaxx from providing communication to his (you know it's coming) customers via that same means.
As stated before, here and in the server, I have no problem with people having discourse or expressing concerns or anger about the buy. But directing that sentiment specifically in regards to a single purchase is pedantic IMO. As mentioned before, understandable but a non-sequitur to the buy itself.To think, all of this could be remedied (yes, even now) by a simple regular update interval.
I mean there was one but...yeah...
Is it too late to join this fine group buy? I'd like two, please. :-\
I find it hilarious that Mech27 turned out better than this trainwreck.
Wow, 2022 is the ALICE year?
i'll be making a small claims court case but will update people here on things I am able to share on the process.Any updates to share?
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?
Wow, 2022 is the ALICE year?
Do I tell him?
Wow, 2022 is the ALICE year?
Do I tell him?
You see this a lot lately. It's just someone trying to boost their post count so they can sell us stuff.
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?
in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?
in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there
What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?
in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there
What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?
in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there
What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?
Potentially sprit i think
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?
in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there
What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?
Potentially sprit i think
SPRiT was a fart in a hurricane compared to this
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?
in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there
What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?
Potentially sprit i think
SPRiT was a fart in a hurricane compared to this
yeah sprit was low 5 digits, this is likely mid 6 (my math has it around 300k). polartype could be up there but i honestly don't know enough about it to say for sure.
there have been a couple other mid 6 exit scams. team redline was like 100-200, for example. they're nothing new in keyboards.
E8v1 was a pretty major one that ended up working out. i think when i made that post i was thinking of that guy who faked having cancer and took all the GB money to buy a bunch of gucci goods or something. was that dolphin v3? i think those boards also eventually went out, though.
i think what makes this so unusual (and therefore keeps us all posting in the thread) is the fact that it doesn't look like people will be getting their boards. even with those other GBs, including more recent ones like moon v2 and gskt, at least there's a pretty clear potential people might actually get their boards. even stuff like 280 and jane v2 CE, it's clear that the runner just made mistakes, not that they were ever trying to exit scam. even mech27v2 ended up with the affected people getting refunds not too long ago.
that's why i'm of the belief that jaxx wasn't going into this trying to scam people -- i think he just royally ****ed up somewhere in the process and is ghosting everyone to avoid responsibility. that doesn't make it any more or less OK, and i'm just speculating here. i don't think we'll ever really know what happened here unless jaxx comes out of hiding and says something. at this point i find that to be a remote to nonexistent possibility.
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?
in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there
What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?
Potentially sprit i think
SPRiT was a fart in a hurricane compared to this
yeah sprit was low 5 digits, this is likely mid 6 (my math has it around 300k). polartype could be up there but i honestly don't know enough about it to say for sure.
there have been a couple other mid 6 exit scams. team redline was like 100-200, for example. they're nothing new in keyboards.
E8v1 was a pretty major one that ended up working out. i think when i made that post i was thinking of that guy who faked having cancer and took all the GB money to buy a bunch of gucci goods or something. was that dolphin v3? i think those boards also eventually went out, though.
i think what makes this so unusual (and therefore keeps us all posting in the thread) is the fact that it doesn't look like people will be getting their boards. even with those other GBs, including more recent ones like moon v2 and gskt, at least there's a pretty clear potential people might actually get their boards. even stuff like 280 and jane v2 CE, it's clear that the runner just made mistakes, not that they were ever trying to exit scam. even mech27v2 ended up with the affected people getting refunds not too long ago.
that's why i'm of the belief that jaxx wasn't going into this trying to scam people -- i think he just royally ****ed up somewhere in the process and is ghosting everyone to avoid responsibility. that doesn't make it any more or less OK, and i'm just speculating here. i don't think we'll ever really know what happened here unless jaxx comes out of hiding and says something. at this point i find that to be a remote to nonexistent possibility.
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?
in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there
What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?
Potentially sprit i think
SPRiT was a fart in a hurricane compared to this
yeah sprit was low 5 digits, this is likely mid 6 (my math has it around 300k). polartype could be up there but i honestly don't know enough about it to say for sure.
there have been a couple other mid 6 exit scams. team redline was like 100-200, for example. they're nothing new in keyboards.
E8v1 was a pretty major one that ended up working out. i think when i made that post i was thinking of that guy who faked having cancer and took all the GB money to buy a bunch of gucci goods or something. was that dolphin v3? i think those boards also eventually went out, though.
i think what makes this so unusual (and therefore keeps us all posting in the thread) is the fact that it doesn't look like people will be getting their boards. even with those other GBs, including more recent ones like moon v2 and gskt, at least there's a pretty clear potential people might actually get their boards. even stuff like 280 and jane v2 CE, it's clear that the runner just made mistakes, not that they were ever trying to exit scam. even mech27v2 ended up with the affected people getting refunds not too long ago.
that's why i'm of the belief that jaxx wasn't going into this trying to scam people -- i think he just royally ****ed up somewhere in the process and is ghosting everyone to avoid responsibility. that doesn't make it any more or less OK, and i'm just speculating here. i don't think we'll ever really know what happened here unless jaxx comes out of hiding and says something. at this point i find that to be a remote to nonexistent possibility.
I joined this hobby too late to know about the e8v1 but man that kinda sours how i feel about the e7v2 i bought a few months ago :/
It's been over 2 years (about 2.5 years) since the group buy ended. It's been over a year since the last update on Discord (9/18/21). How are there no updates since a year ago...
Jaxx, if you're still here and reading through these comments, please give us some update, even if it's the same as the previous update letting us know that there is no update...
It's been over 2 years (about 2.5 years) since the group buy ended. It's been over a year since the last update on Discord (9/18/21). How are there no updates since a year ago...
Jaxx, if you're still here and reading through these comments, please give us some update, even if it's the same as the previous update letting us know that there is no update...
After looking at the timeline again, seems a little suspicious that Jaxx kept leading everyone then vanished around the time chargebacks weren’t really possible. We were fed lies and gave him the benefit of the doubt. Meanwhile he’s laughing to the bank. Situations like these make me hope karma is a thing.Indeed. Karma or league action.
Insert joke here. Bad one.
Insert joke here. Bad one.
Gondolindrim, can we assume you haven't heard anything from Jaxx either?
I can't believe it's been over a year without us hearing anything.
Insert joke here. Bad one.
Gondolindrim, can we assume you haven't heard anything from Jaxx either?
I can't believe it's been over a year without us hearing anything.
Not a word really
Insert joke here. Bad one.
Gondolindrim, can we assume you haven't heard anything from Jaxx either?
I can't believe it's been over a year without us hearing anything.
Not a word really
really or at all? really insinuates you have heard from him. lol
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?
in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there
What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?
Potentially sprit i think
SPRiT was a fart in a hurricane compared to this
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?
in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there
What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?
Potentially sprit i think
SPRiT was a fart in a hurricane compared to this
What happened with SPRiT? Should I stop buying SPRiT springs?
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?
in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there
What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?
Potentially sprit i think
SPRiT was a fart in a hurricane compared to this
What happened with SPRiT? Should I stop buying SPRiT springs?
It's been weird, to be honest. I've bought SPRiT stuff for ages now and never had a problem to be honest. Basically he sold a lot of products and never delivered, and never gave a word about it.
Best course of action now is to start a law suit against Jaxx and then go buy the Amano R2 that just released as in-stockFully agree on the law suit part.
By any chance, has anyone taken the Rukia plate file (if available) and revised the switch cutout fillets to be more like 0.5mm instead of 1.0mm (so that Gateron switches won't bind like they currently do in TGR Alice/clone plates)? 🙏🏿
this should always be on the front page
ring ring, jax you still here?
almost 3 years lol
Wen rukia
Someone posted a link to the ice-cream dudes better half, that post has been deleted now. Seams like some people are starting to loose patience...
Would be good with an update now Jax.
Someone posted a link to the ice-cream dudes better half, that post has been deleted now.
Someone posted a link to the ice-cream dudes better half, that post has been deleted now.
Also just saw what you referring to on discord (It was someone doxxing Jaxx's partner so I won't link it for obvious reasons) and to person who sent that I hope you read this. I understand you have been scammed and I understand your angry about that, but holy **** what you were insinuating was ****ed. You know what won't make him get you your keyboards, a costly divorce/breakup. Jaxx could have a kid, I remember when my parents got a divorce and it still ****ing affects me in my short life, so have empathy and don't do **** like this as it's incredibly damaging. And for the record, if you actually do some dumb **** like that, guess what. You still won't get your keyboard. So just stop.
also sorry for swearing if you care, that just really annoyed me.
Same here. Not sure why my post telling dude to back off got nipped too, but I'm sure the OP saw it. Some people....
Same here. Not sure why my post telling dude to back off got nipped too, but I'm sure the OP saw it. Some people....
I think it was that you quoted him, which had the doxx in the quote so they just took it down so people couldn't see it. Which is fair enough.
Look how far people too the Mechs & Co mess (one guy was fired apparently after people contacted the employer) this does not surprise me. There people lost a keyset or two, here we're talking probably orders around $500ish per person.
It would surprise me if Jax came out of hiding, but that's probably the best he could do. Even if just to say, "Hey I'm truly sorry but I f-cked up, all your money is gone". Then this could get a closure, now everyone feels scammed, that triggers people and some are prepared to go much further than others, even crossing more than one line. Just look at the rest of society.
Personally I don't think it's fair he gets away with this scam, I mean we're talking a lot of money he stole with zero repercussion.
At some point someone was looking into taking legal action, what ever happened with that?
GB from a user with a proven track record of delivering - must cop if you are in the market for this type of keyboard.
I'm here for it!
Wow.
jaxx-sama please return my $700While you're at it return my money too!
Did you hear they passed a law banning ice cream?:p
Don’t worry, it was ruled un-cone-stitutional!
Would be so wild if Jaxx came in to give an end of Year 2023 production update :-\
Hope that 2024 will be the year of Rukia (it probably will not be)