Filco or Ducky?

[terran5992]

Experience will vary but most will agree that filco makes sturdy keyboard and most are content with the browns. I just feel like ducky's keyboards feel a little cheap

Have you ever tried a Ducky, by any chance? Because I very, very strongly doubt you'd feel that way if you did.

Ive had a ducky and a filco

The only diff i felt was the stabalizers

[Linkbane]

Experience will vary but most will agree that filco makes sturdy keyboard and most are content with the browns. I just feel like ducky's keyboards feel a little cheap

Have you ever tried a Ducky, by any chance? Because I very, very strongly doubt you'd feel that way if you did.

Ive had a ducky and a filco

The only diff i felt was the stabalizers

^^

[CommonCurt]

Experience will vary but most will agree that filco makes sturdy keyboard and most are content with the browns. I just feel like ducky's keyboards feel a little cheap

Have you ever tried a Ducky, by any chance? Because I very, very strongly doubt you'd feel that way if you did.

The only diff i felt was the stabalizers

I concur.    However I do use my Filco's more than my Ducky's.

[IPT]

Experience will vary but most will agree that filco makes sturdy keyboard and most are content with the browns. I just feel like ducky's keyboards feel a little cheap

Have you ever tried a Ducky, by any chance? Because I very, very strongly doubt you'd feel that way if you did.

Ive had a ducky and a filco

The only diff i felt was the stabalizers

my ducky was lighter than my filco.
The ducky's about 2.8lbs while the filco clocks in around 3.6lbs.

I agree on the stabs feeling diff, but also the "feel" of the keyboards was different.  I think the rubber feet on the ducky aren't as "grippy" as the filco.

Course the ducky PBT caps are superior to Filco's ABS caps though.

[terran5992]

Experience will vary but most will agree that filco makes sturdy keyboard and most are content with the browns. I just feel like ducky's keyboards feel a little cheap

Have you ever tried a Ducky, by any chance? Because I very, very strongly doubt you'd feel that way if you did.

Ive had a ducky and a filco

The only diff i felt was the stabalizers

my ducky was lighter than my filco.
The ducky's about 2.8lbs while the filco clocks in around 3.6lbs.

I agree on the stabs feeling diff, but also the "feel" of the keyboards was different.  I think the rubber feet on the ducky aren't as "grippy" as the filco.

Course the ducky PBT caps are superior to Filco's ABS caps though.

Hmm never noticed that before. Both feel equally grippy

[Danule]

Anyone notice that ducky lubes their switches?  I have noticed this on 2 differnt ducky keyboards a brown and a black.  They felt super smooth compared to any other band new black or brown I have tried.

[dante]

If anyone is leaning towards Ducky but wants something cheaper without backlit and Tenkeyless - MechanicalKeyboards.com just got the 2087 Zero's in.  The stabilizers should feel much better than the ones in the Shine 2.

[SpAmRaY]

If anyone is leaning towards Ducky but wants something cheaper without backlit and Tenkeyless - MechanicalKeyboards.com just got the 2087 Zero's in.  The stabilizers should feel much better than the ones in the Shine 2.

If only they had one with clears...

[dante]

If anyone is leaning towards Ducky but wants something cheaper without backlit and Tenkeyless - MechanicalKeyboards.com just got the 2087 Zero's in.  The stabilizers should feel much better than the ones in the Shine 2.

If only they had one with clears...

Which baffles me.  Ducky has only sold MX Clears on the full size.  If the switches are that hard to acquire you'd think they'd stretch them out on TKL or 60% boards.

[Linkbane]

If anyone is leaning towards Ducky but wants something cheaper without backlit and Tenkeyless - MechanicalKeyboards.com just got the 2087 Zero's in.  The stabilizers should feel much better than the ones in the Shine 2.

If only they had one with clears...

Which baffles me.  Ducky has only sold MX Clears on the full size.  If the switches are that hard to acquire you'd think they'd stretch them out on TKL or 60% boards.

I would theorize that they don't sell too many to laypersons who don't know what Clears are.

[Tony]

I have typed on both and I think Filco is slightly better. For Ducky lighting led, you will enjoy it for a month only but the Filco typing feel you can enjoy much longer.

[~OmIfan~]

if you play cs:go. which is FPS game. you should buy the one with red switch, since you probably gonna double tap a lot. and if you don't need backlighting you should choose Filco

[Grim Fandango]

Depends on what you are after. If somehow backlight is important to you, the Ducky is more appealing. If, for example, you prefer Costar stabilizers, I would say the edge goes to the Filco. Personally I went with Filco when given the choice.

if you play cs:go. which is FPS game. you should buy the one with red switch, since you probably gonna double tap a lot. and if you don't need backlighting you should choose Filco

It is mostly just personal preference, and in no way do you need reds to perform well in CS:GO. Steelseries sponsored teams all use blacks (like NIP, f0rest, GeT_RiGhT) on the Steelseries mech keyboards (though truth be told, there is no way to tell whether they changed the switches). Yet others use different switches. Arguably the most dominant player ever in his prime used rubber dome.

[tbc]

My friend owns a Ducky and Rosewill keyboard and he says it's sad that the cheaper keyboard (Rosewill) feels nicer to type on.

And Filco is better than Rosewill so therefore it's safe to assume Filco will feel nicer to type on than Ducky.

That and I own a Filco too.  It's the standard for solid construction no gimmick keyboard.

So the question is if you want a good solid keyboard or if you want pretty lights.

I think that you're not considering them fairly at all. First of all, all keyboards with plates feel extremely similar if not the same. Case construction might change that, but everything that isn't a Korean custom is plastic anyways. From all of the reviews I've read, the Ducky is always mentioned as very high build quality, quite heavy (whether this speaks to the double-layer PCB or just better case construction, I don't know), and the Ducky Yellow which recently came out has very thick PBT caps, much better than the often-complained-about thin ABS on the Filco.

Filco really doesn't live up to its hype. With Ducky, I don't mind paying $140 on a keyboard because it has solid construction, developed lighting, which actually took a lot of research, and is customizable. The Filco, in comparison, is a barebones, featureless keyboard; the same as a QFR, but at over double the price.

A better comparison would be if you want a tank or an Audi. Both are good choices.

Remember this is geekhack, where usb ports are contraband and backlights are too hard to turn off.

Having extra features IS a sign of bad quality here.

[fuzzybaffy]

I have typed on both and I think Filco is slightly better. For Ducky lighting led, you will enjoy it for a month only but the Filco typing feel you can enjoy much longer.

How is the typing feel different? Does the typing actually feel different, or is it just a difference in feel of the keyboard chassis?

[cinnamoncider]

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I have typed on both and I think Filco is slightly better. For Ducky lighting led, you will enjoy it for a month only but the Filco typing feel you can enjoy much longer.

How is the typing feel different? Does the typing actually feel different, or is it just a difference in feel of the keyboard chassis?

I don't see any difference in the feel/experience in typing in a Filco - they use coated ABS - the same with Ducky. Unless you're comparing two boards with different MX switches.

[fuzzybaffy]

Are you speaking from experience with actually typing on a Filco, or are you speaking hypothetically (ie. "I don't see why Filco would be any different")?

[Tony]

I have typed on both and I think Filco is slightly better. For Ducky lighting led, you will enjoy it for a month only but the Filco typing feel you can enjoy much longer.

How is the typing feel different? Does the typing actually feel different, or is it just a difference in feel of the keyboard chassis?

Filco typing feel is more delicate and simply amazing, while Ducky is a bit more coarse and not so good. I don't know whether it is a reason of chassis you mentioned.

[fuzzybaffy]

I see... yea, I have to assume it's the Costar (delicate) vs. Cherry (coarse) stabilizers you're seeing the differences in and referring to. If that's the case, I have no problem with Cherry stabilizers (I actually prefer them), so I guess I wouldn't mind a non-Filco board at all...

[cinnamoncider]

Are you speaking from experience with actually typing on a Filco, or are you speaking hypothetically (ie. "I don't see why Filco would be any different")?

I own a DK9008S3 and tried a Filco. Almost feel the same - except for the stabilizers. If you don't want a LED backlit mkb - you could also try Ducky Zero to be on(almost) par with Filco's specs.

Also, I would also like to suggest you to check out WASD keyboards
*pushing a third option 

[fuzzybaffy]

^ Thank you for the FYI. Would it be safe to say that the stabilizers are pretty much the ONLY difference? Or were there other differences as well?

[Tony]

I see... yea, I have to assume it's the Costar (delicate) vs. Cherry (coarse) stabilizers you're seeing the differences in and referring to. If that's the case, I have no problem with Cherry stabilizers (I actually prefer them), so I guess I wouldn't mind a non-Filco board at all...

The typing feel difference is clearly inherent in alphabetical keys which has no stabilizers at all. If you own both brands, you will understand what I mean without any intellectual rationalization from your part. You feel it.

[fuzzybaffy]

I see... yea, I have to assume it's the Costar (delicate) vs. Cherry (coarse) stabilizers you're seeing the differences in and referring to. If that's the case, I have no problem with Cherry stabilizers (I actually prefer them), so I guess I wouldn't mind a non-Filco board at all...

The typing feel difference is clearly inherent in alphabetical keys which has no stabilizers at all. If you own both brands, you will understand what I mean without any intellectual rationalization from your part. You feel it.

Oh, thanks for clearing up the fact that I was intellectually rationalizing. Maybe I will have to strongly consider a Filco after all!

[amos5606]

I think Filco is much better than ducky, I don't like the light  when I'm typing.
 
But, ducky is much more creative than filco.

[cinnamoncider]

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My friend owns a Ducky and Rosewill keyboard and he says it's sad that the cheaper keyboard (Rosewill) feels nicer to type on.

And Filco is better than Rosewill so therefore it's safe to assume Filco will feel nicer to type on than Ducky.

That and I own a Filco too.  It's the standard for solid construction no gimmick keyboard.

So the question is if you want a good solid keyboard or if you want pretty lights.

I think that you're not considering them fairly at all. First of all, all keyboards with plates feel extremely similar if not the same. Case construction might change that, but everything that isn't a Korean custom is plastic anyways. From all of the reviews I've read, the Ducky is always mentioned as very high build quality, quite heavy (whether this speaks to the double-layer PCB or just better case construction, I don't know), and the Ducky Yellow which recently came out has very thick PBT caps, much better than the often-complained-about thin ABS on the Filco.

Filco really doesn't live up to its hype. With Ducky, I don't mind paying $140 on a keyboard because it has solid construction, developed lighting, which actually took a lot of research, and is customizable. The Filco, in comparison, is a barebones, featureless keyboard; the same as a QFR, but at over double the price.

A better comparison would be if you want a tank or an Audi. Both are good choices.

Remember this is geekhack, where usb ports are contraband and backlights are too hard to turn off.

Having extra features IS a sign of bad quality here.

I would also like to add that having a huge price tag - doesn't mean high quality parts/build.

[Wildcard]

+1 for Filco

[Linkbane]

My friend owns a Ducky and Rosewill keyboard and he says it's sad that the cheaper keyboard (Rosewill) feels nicer to type on.

And Filco is better than Rosewill so therefore it's safe to assume Filco will feel nicer to type on than Ducky.

That and I own a Filco too.  It's the standard for solid construction no gimmick keyboard.

So the question is if you want a good solid keyboard or if you want pretty lights.

I think that you're not considering them fairly at all. First of all, all keyboards with plates feel extremely similar if not the same. Case construction might change that, but everything that isn't a Korean custom is plastic anyways. From all of the reviews I've read, the Ducky is always mentioned as very high build quality, quite heavy (whether this speaks to the double-layer PCB or just better case construction, I don't know), and the Ducky Yellow which recently came out has very thick PBT caps, much better than the often-complained-about thin ABS on the Filco.

Filco really doesn't live up to its hype. With Ducky, I don't mind paying $140 on a keyboard because it has solid construction, developed lighting, which actually took a lot of research, and is customizable. The Filco, in comparison, is a barebones, featureless keyboard; the same as a QFR, but at over double the price.

A better comparison would be if you want a tank or an Audi. Both are good choices.

Remember this is geekhack, where usb ports are contraband and backlights are too hard to turn off.

Having extra features IS a sign of bad quality here.

+10

[rowdy]

I think Filco is much better than ducky, I don't like the light  when I'm typing.
 
But, ducky is much more creative than filco.

Welcome to Geekhack!

You can always turn the backlighting off, but then if you are going to keep it turned off you might as well get a board without backlighting.