for ISO you could find the same or a 1u oneNitpicker here... Typical ISO keyboards for Windows PCs use 2u Backspace keys. It is JIS layout that has a 1u Backspace. Apple has 1.5u in ANSI and ISO but 1u in JIS.
That said all my programmable boards have Colemak backspace (caps lock) [...]I wonder, do you prefer a stepped or a full-width Colemak backspace key?
That said all my programmable boards have Colemak backspace (caps lock) [...]I wonder, do you prefer a stepped or a full-width Colemak backspace key?
ANSI backspace for me, mostly due to layout. I used the UNIX style backspace that the HHKB uses for years in the 90s and was never a huge fan of it. I could use it but I'd rather the \| be more accessible to me than the backspace. As a UNIX admin, I use the \| key rather heavily for a living.
HHKB style here :)
Still waiting on my JTK Soph set to throw on to show the proper backspace legend
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Oh yeah, HHKB backspace is great too :)
I've stopped doing \\\\\\ when I switch back to a TKL layout, but I think I still prefer the TKL backspace as I've been using it for far longer than my HHKB.
Oh yeah, HHKB backspace is great too :)
I've stopped doing \\\\\\ when I switch back to a TKL layout, but I think I still prefer the TKL backspace as I've been using it for far longer than my HHKB.
I do split backspace even on TKL now. I'm so weird. My RS96 which I'm using right now is also split backspace :))
Oh yeah, HHKB backspace is great too :)
I've stopped doing \\\\\\ when I switch back to a TKL layout, but I think I still prefer the TKL backspace as I've been using it for far longer than my HHKB.
I do split backspace even on TKL now. I'm so weird. My RS96 which I'm using right now is also split backspace :))
Do you mean a small arrow in the top right of your alpha area?
Oh yeah, HHKB backspace is great too :)
I've stopped doing \\\\\\ when I switch back to a TKL layout, but I think I still prefer the TKL backspace as I've been using it for far longer than my HHKB.
I do split backspace even on TKL now. I'm so weird. My RS96 which I'm using right now is also split backspace :))
Do you mean a small arrow in the top right of your alpha area?
No, HHKB style.
Oh yeah, HHKB backspace is great too :)
I've stopped doing \\\\\\ when I switch back to a TKL layout, but I think I still prefer the TKL backspace as I've been using it for far longer than my HHKB.
I do split backspace even on TKL now. I'm so weird. My RS96 which I'm using right now is also split backspace :))
Do you mean a small arrow in the top right of your alpha area?
No, HHKB style.
Ah! Of course.
ANSI backspace for me, mostly due to layout. I used the UNIX style backspace that the HHKB uses for years in the 90s and was never a huge fan of it. I could use it but I'd rather the \| be more accessible to me than the backspace. As a UNIX admin, I use the \| key rather heavily for a living.
It is very interesting to learn that even after years of use you prefer the ANSI to the UNIX back space, I can use both and I have one keyboard with each one, but gravitate mostly to the first one. Even when it is a bit farther from the home row, its size and the placement at the corner makes it easier to type on, also, along with a fat enter you can enjoy the pleasure of a secure, strong and firm hit on both of them.
ANSI backspace for me, mostly due to layout. I used the UNIX style backspace that the HHKB uses for years in the 90s and was never a huge fan of it. I could use it but I'd rather the \| be more accessible to me than the backspace. As a UNIX admin, I use the \| key rather heavily for a living.
It is very interesting to learn that even after years of use you prefer the ANSI to the UNIX back space, I can use both and I have one keyboard with each one, but gravitate mostly to the first one. Even when it is a bit farther from the home row, its size and the placement at the corner makes it easier to type on, also, along with a fat enter you can enjoy the pleasure of a secure, strong and firm hit on both of them.
Honestly, on the command-line, I'm more in need of the | symbol than I am of the backspace. I have Ctrl-B for backspace if under the typical settings under Bash (though my team seem to prefer set -o vi... so I always have to set -o emacs again). That or if I've really botched a line, Ctrl-U will clear the line completely regardless of shell - also works at the login prompt for mis-typed passwords.
Like I said, I've used the layout since 1994 when I was first dealing with Sun systems and still have a Sun 5 keyboard with the layout in the closet for the old Ultra 60 that never gets fired up any longer. I'd use it if I had to for whatever reason but even Sun ended up switching out for ANSI later on.
ANSI backspace for me, mostly due to layout. I used the UNIX style backspace that the HHKB uses for years in the 90s and was never a huge fan of it. I could use it but I'd rather the \| be more accessible to me than the backspace. As a UNIX admin, I use the \| key rather heavily for a living.
It is very interesting to learn that even after years of use you prefer the ANSI to the UNIX back space, I can use both and I have one keyboard with each one, but gravitate mostly to the first one. Even when it is a bit farther from the home row, its size and the placement at the corner makes it easier to type on, also, along with a fat enter you can enjoy the pleasure of a secure, strong and firm hit on both of them.
Honestly, on the command-line, I'm more in need of the | symbol than I am of the backspace. I have Ctrl-B for backspace if under the typical settings under Bash (though my team seem to prefer set -o vi... so I always have to set -o emacs again). That or if I've really botched a line, Ctrl-U will clear the line completely regardless of shell - also works at the login prompt for mis-typed passwords.
Like I said, I've used the layout since 1994 when I was first dealing with Sun systems and still have a Sun 5 keyboard with the layout in the closet for the old Ultra 60 that never gets fired up any longer. I'd use it if I had to for whatever reason but even Sun ended up switching out for ANSI later on.
The pipe deserves its own key; however, it should be a one unit key, I do not see why it should be any larger.
ANSI backspace for me, mostly due to layout. I used the UNIX style backspace that the HHKB uses for years in the 90s and was never a huge fan of it. I could use it but I'd rather the \| be more accessible to me than the backspace. As a UNIX admin, I use the \| key rather heavily for a living.
It is very interesting to learn that even after years of use you prefer the ANSI to the UNIX back space, I can use both and I have one keyboard with each one, but gravitate mostly to the first one. Even when it is a bit farther from the home row, its size and the placement at the corner makes it easier to type on, also, along with a fat enter you can enjoy the pleasure of a secure, strong and firm hit on both of them.
Honestly, on the command-line, I'm more in need of the | symbol than I am of the backspace. I have Ctrl-B for backspace if under the typical settings under Bash (though my team seem to prefer set -o vi... so I always have to set -o emacs again). That or if I've really botched a line, Ctrl-U will clear the line completely regardless of shell - also works at the login prompt for mis-typed passwords.
Like I said, I've used the layout since 1994 when I was first dealing with Sun systems and still have a Sun 5 keyboard with the layout in the closet for the old Ultra 60 that never gets fired up any longer. I'd use it if I had to for whatever reason but even Sun ended up switching out for ANSI later on.
The pipe deserves its own key; however, it should be a one unit key, I do not see why it should be any larger.
I would be fine with the pipe as a one-unit key. It's a 1.5u key more due to the ANSI layout than anything. US ISO would certainly be interesting. It's possible but with me being in the US, ANSI is readily available and easier on the wallet for keycap sets.
That wouldn't be a bad layout in all honesty. I would imagine it would take some slight adjustments going from a bit more stretch to stacking the pinky/ring fingers on the right hand.
ANSI backspace for me, mostly due to layout. I used the UNIX style backspace that the HHKB uses for years in the 90s and was never a huge fan of it. I could use it but I'd rather the \| be more accessible to me than the backspace. As a UNIX admin, I use the \| key rather heavily for a living.
It is very interesting to learn that even after years of use you prefer the ANSI to the UNIX back space, I can use both and I have one keyboard with each one, but gravitate mostly to the first one. Even when it is a bit farther from the home row, its size and the placement at the corner makes it easier to type on, also, along with a fat enter you can enjoy the pleasure of a secure, strong and firm hit on both of them.
Honestly, on the command-line, I'm more in need of the | symbol than I am of the backspace. I have Ctrl-B for backspace if under the typical settings under Bash (though my team seem to prefer set -o vi... so I always have to set -o emacs again). That or if I've really botched a line, Ctrl-U will clear the line completely regardless of shell - also works at the login prompt for mis-typed passwords.
Like I said, I've used the layout since 1994 when I was first dealing with Sun systems and still have a Sun 5 keyboard with the layout in the closet for the old Ultra 60 that never gets fired up any longer. I'd use it if I had to for whatever reason but even Sun ended up switching out for ANSI later on.
The pipe deserves its own key; however, it should be a one unit key, I do not see why it should be any larger.
I would be fine with the pipe as a one-unit key. It's a 1.5u key more due to the ANSI layout than anything. US ISO would certainly be interesting. It's possible but with me being in the US, ANSI is readily available and easier on the wallet for keycap sets.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2aWJsi9.jpg)
ANSI backspace for me, mostly due to layout. I used the UNIX style backspace that the HHKB uses for years in the 90s and was never a huge fan of it. I could use it but I'd rather the \| be more accessible to me than the backspace. As a UNIX admin, I use the \| key rather heavily for a living.
It is very interesting to learn that even after years of use you prefer the ANSI to the UNIX back space, I can use both and I have one keyboard with each one, but gravitate mostly to the first one. Even when it is a bit farther from the home row, its size and the placement at the corner makes it easier to type on, also, along with a fat enter you can enjoy the pleasure of a secure, strong and firm hit on both of them.
Honestly, on the command-line, I'm more in need of the | symbol than I am of the backspace. I have Ctrl-B for backspace if under the typical settings under Bash (though my team seem to prefer set -o vi... so I always have to set -o emacs again). That or if I've really botched a line, Ctrl-U will clear the line completely regardless of shell - also works at the login prompt for mis-typed passwords.
Like I said, I've used the layout since 1994 when I was first dealing with Sun systems and still have a Sun 5 keyboard with the layout in the closet for the old Ultra 60 that never gets fired up any longer. I'd use it if I had to for whatever reason but even Sun ended up switching out for ANSI later on.
The pipe deserves its own key; however, it should be a one unit key, I do not see why it should be any larger.
I would be fine with the pipe as a one-unit key. It's a 1.5u key more due to the ANSI layout than anything. US ISO would certainly be interesting. It's possible but with me being in the US, ANSI is readily available and easier on the wallet for keycap sets.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2aWJsi9.jpg)
*shudder*
That wouldn't be a bad layout in all honesty. I would imagine it would take some slight adjustments going from a bit more stretch to stacking the pinky/ring fingers on the right hand.
The ample area to type on the Enter key makes adjusting to it a breeze. I like the 1.5 Unix style backspace; but, this is pretty intuitive.
Is there any pcb for an good split spacebar board?
(beside clueboard / Phantom)