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Offline Nigolski

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nice

Offline cronohack

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Hopefully the bottom engraving would be improved. I think improving the font makes it more premium. Just a suggestion :)
The layout is dope tho

Offline EMC Labs

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Looks really awesome!

Offline OneWithNothing

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Looks wonderful! I'm always a big fan of the F-keys on the sidebar. Will likely join!
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Offline renatalidiane

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Case very beautiful, I wait for more updates of this GB and render for the yellow case.

Offline Sycomore

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Love the design, gonna be trying hard to score one of those PC.

Offline VXQN

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I've been waiting for a keyboard with left f-kes for ages. Looks great!

Offline lewisflude

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Will ISO support be included in the bundled PCB?

Offline senryo

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Will ISO support be included in the bundled PCB?

We will definitely look into this as a lot of people have been asking for this feature.

Offline hottrout

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I concur.  ISO support and what about doing it right and adding the keypad to the right to balance the function keys on the left.  That would be my ultimate design.
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Offline AuthenticDanger

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Don't ruin elegant design with a janky "universal" plate for ISO. If people actually BUY ISO, they should use a different plate.
F Keys belong on the left.

Offline Poesjuh

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Don't ruin elegant design with a janky "universal" plate for ISO. If people actually BUY ISO, they should use a different plate.

So what you're suggesting, but I'm gonna put it in much more friendly words, is that there should be 2 plates options; one ansi and one iso.
Very good suggestion sir.

Offline nicx

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I would 100% be in for non-hotswap on the PC.

Offline Poesjuh

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Come on man....... you send an e-mail but don't use BCC...... this alone is a reason for me to say NOPE to the GB...

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE use BCC when sending group e-mails so we don't see everybody's e-mail address...

Sorry, but it just has to be said.

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Come on man....... you send an e-mail but don't use BCC...... this alone is a reason for me to say NOPE to the GB...

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE use BCC when sending group e-mails so we don't see everybody's e-mail address...

Sorry, but it just has to be said.

Please accept my humble apology, I will keep this in mind in the future.
I'm sorry for causing any unsettling feeling for this matter.

Offline AuthenticDanger

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Come on man....... you send an e-mail but don't use BCC...... this alone is a reason for me to say NOPE to the GB...

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE use BCC when sending group e-mails so we don't see everybody's e-mail address...

Sorry, but it just has to be said.

Please accept my humble apology, I will keep this in mind in the future.
I'm sorry for causing any unsettling feeling for this matter.

It's not just a feeling, it's how you get on spam list. If 1 person on the list is compromised, all the emails are harvested and can be targeted.
F Keys belong on the left.

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Come on man....... you send an e-mail but don't use BCC...... this alone is a reason for me to say NOPE to the GB...

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE use BCC when sending group e-mails so we don't see everybody's e-mail address...

Sorry, but it just has to be said.

Please accept my humble apology, I will keep this in mind in the future.
I'm sorry for causing any unsettling feeling for this matter.

It's not just a feeling, it's how you get on spam list. If 1 person on the list is compromised, all the emails are harvested and can be targeted.

Well noted.
This is our first group buy, I know this should not be an excuse.
But we have beared this in mind now and will handle this matter more delicately in the future days.
Once again, we apologize for causing any inconveniences.

Offline senryo

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Update Summary:
3/7 GMT+8 Afternoon update
  • Cap quantity of Aluminium version has been lifted, PC version is still in consideration - but rest assured, the quantity of PC will
  • be increased nevertheless
  • Aluminium version will now have an identical design to PC version (yes, mounting system too)
  • PVD Stainless steel option will be added to sidebar weight
  • Price for both version is now subject to change due to the massive changes we are implementing on this project
  • USB-C will be supported
  • There will be only "Bocc" engraving on weight
  • WKL layout has been chosen - 1.5/1/1.5/7/1.5/0.5/1/1/1 - poll will begin in GH thread soon
  • Color option has been deducted to Black, White, Blue and a new color added - Red
  • Blue and Red will be fine tuned before releasing it
  • Color finish will be Electrophoresis

I will keep you guys updated! Thanks for the overwhelming support.

Offline nathanchere

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With HHKB layout bottom row this would be impossible to say no to. WKL is possible so maybe hhkb too?  :D

Offline hottrout

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Im in for sure.  I just wish someone would do this layout with the numpad on the right.  That would be an awesome throwback to boards from the 1980's.  Even without that , I am in for more than one.
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Offline Dr_D

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Hope the GB won't be too hard to get in on. WKL version is my ideal board.

Offline 0hok

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Looks beautiful! Definitely in. Wish the hotswap option was open to the non PC boards. It also sounds like 20 PC boards is quite low in quantity.  I have been looking for an affordable left handed fkey setup and this is perfect. Thank you!

Offline VXQN

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Looks like I may have to bow out of this, what with the recent changes to the ALU version (price increase, angle increase). A great shame, as I've been yearning for a keyboard with f-keys on the left for so long!

Offline eyedrop

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Looks like I may have to bow out of this, what with the recent changes to the ALU version (price increase, angle increase). A great shame, as I've been yearning for a keyboard with f-keys on the left for so long!

The price hasn't been finalized yet, maybe you can wait and see?

Offline senryo

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[IC] Bocc - an embodiment of utility and aesthetic (HUUUUGE UPDATES! 3/7)
« Reply #74 on: Thu, 04 July 2019, 11:28:43 »
Hey guys, a small update here as I’m out of town now and don’t have my laptop to modify the thread.

PVD stainless steel sidebar is possibly gonna get scrapped off the table due to high manufacturing cost. Instead, we are leaning to offer sandblast brass sidebar weight for alu version.

Sorry guys for bombarding all the new updates that frequently, but we hope to maintain a transparent communication window for both parties.
« Last Edit: Thu, 04 July 2019, 11:30:16 by senryo »

Offline Solotov

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Love the aesthetic of the polycarb so much. I wish after this GB you have a plan to do another 65% without F keys on the left side, and I'll be definitely in.
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Offline hicals

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When does Gb start?

Offline senryo

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When does Gb start?
Hey there
I’m still out of town at the moment

But here’s some news update

- design is being finalized
- color fine tuning is on the go
- prototype will be in production VERY soon
- more renders inc

Offline Cods

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2/7/2019 - 1:12PM GMT+8
Removed bluetooth from the PCB of PC version


 :'(

So sad - Bluetooth would have made this an instant buy for me.
May I ask why you abandoned Bluetooth, just out of interest?

Edit: or maybe I misread it, and the Aluminium version still has hotswap and Bluetooth? (That’d be an instant buy at ~$300ish)
« Last Edit: Mon, 08 July 2019, 07:06:20 by Cods »
Model M Industrial, SSK, Unicomp 104, Code TKL MX Green, FC660M MX Green + Clear + White + Grey, FC660C Topre 45g, MagicForce 68 USB and Bluetooth, Whitefox, some optical switch 65% Bluetooth split spacebar thing ... wait, I think I need an intervention. Too late, there’s a couple of new Model Fs on the way.
Too much SA is never enough.

Offline htcbug

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Any update on the GB progress? Love to see the left hand function columns.

Offline sarsaparillagorilla

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With an ISO option I'm 100000% down for this. It should friggin amazeballs!

Offline hicals

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I can't wait to get this.

Offline senryo

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Sorry for the silence for the past 2 weeks. There's been a hella of work to deal with in my personal life as well as refining the design of Bocc.

I've updated the thread for the progress update. Stay tuned! There will be more updates coming soon.

Offline forelsket

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Looking forward to this

Offline sl70309

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Price was good at the beginning, till you removed all good features.

Offline MMKB

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Quote
the mounting system we proposed will be having the PCB screwed and locked in to the bottom case, while the plate will be screwed in and locked in place on the top case.Another thought we put into this design is that we hope that whoever appreciate hot-swappable PCB could easily change the plate by unscrewing it off the top case and swap it to another material to experience different typing feel. Last but not the least, user can enjoy the plateless set up on this mounting system as well.

- So if my understanding is correct… it’s top-mounting the plate and tray-mounting the PCB. But it requires the right amount of space between the plate and the PCB such that the switches can sit properly. The tolerance seems hard to achieve
- If someone solders the switches, does she need to screw the PCB to the bottom? I guess no?
- If someone uses a hot-swappable PCB and wants to change the plate material, she would still need to pop out all the switches, unless she has the same 70 switches on the other plate already. Doesn’t seem like an improvement either way.
- so I think it really only enables a plateless setup — a tray mounted plateless setup — which might not sound great imo.

I’m not against your design but if these details could be filled in that’d be helpful.  :thumb:
        

Offline orim23

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so, its a tray mount?

could we get an exploded view?

Offline Primuds

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Hopefully the bottom engraving would be improved. I think improving the font makes it more premium. Just a suggestion :)
The layout is dope tho
Yeah, I hope the bottom engraving design could be just Bocc.

Offline Jaxxstatic

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interested

Just hopping in now, very interested and probably buy 100%, haven't read thru the thread yet but any chance at wkl?

Offline jimboytacos

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This GB needs to come fast. Someone over on r/mk is flaunting that i69 for quite some time now. I personally like the bottom of this layout.

Offline hicals

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any update?

Offline ptrick3

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Interested in PC for sure, probably would not buy an aluminum, but a solid color plastic would be nice if PC is limited.

Offline Bawsky

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PC version looks fantastic. Definitely interested.

Offline heyitsconan

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This one looks amazing so far.

Offline senryo

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any update?
Updates will be up next week.

Things that will be updated are -

2nd IC
Renders
Placing proto order
Final Price

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 :eek:

Offline speaktobrett

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Re: [IC] Bocc - an embodiment of utility and aesthetic (progress update 20/7)
« Reply #97 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 19:26:26 »
Excited for the bicarbonate version !

Offline jimboytacos

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Re: [IC] Bocc - an embodiment of utility and aesthetic (progress update 20/7)
« Reply #98 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 21:12:14 »
any update?
Updates will be up next week.

Things that will be updated are -

2nd IC
Renders
Placing proto order
Final Price

Gotta say, please don't add one of those non-functional corner blockers into this case. It's such a trendy thing to do, but they honestly are of no use to the end user.

Offline dumhevae

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Re: [IC] Bocc - an embodiment of utility and aesthetic (progress update 20/7)
« Reply #99 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 15:02:05 »
PC ver looks so good imo, hope i can get it