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TomahawkLabs:

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--- Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 06 June 2024, 09:59:28 ---In the same way, the women's rights movement has taken a strong Misandry position.


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I fail to see how any significant feminist movement's views, goals or methods are misandrist. The whole point of progressive movements is to abolish existing stereotypes and power dynamics, not replace them with new ones. Members of such movements who miss that point or forget it soon split off.

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I think is more of the mindset of 3rd wave Feminists who think hurting and oppressing males is how they get back on even footing. That's not what most people think of when they think Feminism. True Feminism is about equality not punishment and retribution.

tp4tissue:

--- Quote from: LavenderB on Fri, 07 June 2024, 11:04:24 ---
--- Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 06 June 2024, 09:59:28 ---In the same way, the women's rights movement has taken a strong Misandry position.


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I fail to see how any significant feminist movement's views, goals or methods are misandrist. The whole point of progressive movements is to abolish existing stereotypes and power dynamics, not replace them with new ones. Members of such movements who miss that point or forget it soon split off.

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Like I said, watch the movie, there are Many STRAINS of feminism as there are strains of Mens rights.

The loudest most prominent among the crowd these days are exceptionally polarized and Full of Misandry/Misogyny.

Women are indeed just as violent/ malicious as men are

Potentially, the only thing women hates more than men, is other women, This is in the personal experience of Tp4, not a social prescription. The trashtalk behind the scenes is crazy. All the bad words come out.  It's way worse than any male/male conversation.

fohat.digs:

--- Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 06 June 2024, 07:09:07 ---
that controversial documentary "The Red Pill".


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Watched it last night. What a very strange thing it was.

I was raised to believe that a person should strive to be good, to do good, and to co-operate for the betterment of society.

Nobody is perfect, but I would say that when those aspirations break down that civilization is threatened.

From my perspective, for several decades now a vast swath of the population has been losing sight of the value of altruistic behavior and embraced selfishness as motivation.

The former president set an example of greed, rage, and petulance that has trickled down to empower millions of people to express their ugliest inner selves.

tp4tissue:

--- Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 08 June 2024, 12:44:24 ---The former president set an example of greed, rage, and petulance that has trickled down to empower millions of people to express their ugliest inner selves.

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Well, if you think about it, this Irrational-Self-Destructive attitude/behavior, might be an innate mechanism of nature's population control, when all other methods of balance are exhausted, wolves/lions/tigers/sharks/komodo dragons/hyena/Covid/Sars/Smallpox, mankind has defeated all of the protection measures, and so, our inbuilt destiny is to self destruct, thereby regulating.

/Just a thought, /Inevitable

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